Season 7: No longer double dips on increase poison damage% (the poison damage% will be applied on hit and not on casting venom), but was massively buffed in S9 and moderately again in s10, so it's probably stronger than before this change.
I generally hate pre-buffing, since I am a hoarding junkie and pick up everything, so I need all the inventory space I can get, but DAMN that was a quick clear. GG, awesome showcase
You don’t need prebuff swap gear. I’m running a similar build and my only prebuff is 2 x shadow killers for +8 to shadow discipline. Melts everything like in his video. Edit - they are on my weapon swap, so not adding and removing and gear to buff.
@@noahbojensen7337 not sure how to post that. I’m out of town for a bit right now. I’m running eth chaos war fist + jade talon with ed jewels, gface, atmas for amp, soul drainers, gores, string, raven frost and random rare ring, torch and shadow gcs. 2x shadow killers on swap for +8 buff. Far from GG gear but it still just melts everything (in T1 at least). Very important is to make sure you get your tiger strike up to 3 charges then switch to WW. It gives you a passive +40% splash damage which greatly increases the clear.
I’m running a WW assassin as well and it’s amazing. My gear is more physical than psn and not as good as yours, but still melts everything. Most fun I’ve had in PD2 by far.
I was playing MBsin for farm and changed to Venom WWsin too, but mine is also pure poison type. Dont use Gore n Atma ammy and, merc is A5WW for his BO and put RW:Rapture for LR. But your type is more faster to killing speed, and carrion ring for creeper was my big oversight. Very interesting video! tyvm!
What's your ideal merc setup?.. I can't decide between A1 vigor/might/mist conc... Or A2 with pride and might... Or A5 with bo and might and fanat or rapture lower resist....i don't know what path to go down
I don’t think there’s a correct choice. I mainly think it depends on your setup. All of my skillers have 7%frw, and almost every piece of my gear also has frw corruptions. I also decided to max out burst of speed to go faster. I don’t have ETD on my claws so the act 2 AR merc really helps with hit rating, and he only ever dies to dolls. It’s honestly just a personal preference really.
I posted a basic Nats WW beginner setup and it clears fine. 16m with base gear. It’s posted in the PD2 Assassin channel and guides. Sorry in advance for the audio, was my first video. 😅
Rolled the hybrid dancer too. I went Nats with 3os in helm, claw, and armor. Stuffed in 9 cheap 4/5 facets. 8 shadow skillers 2x 3% lc with run/walk, torch anni, some mf charms. Went with act 1 vigor, faith, might armor. Some pdr so she dont die. Interesting thing is max shadow warrior, put dance on left click and cloak on right and she will cast it for u. Then rest of points in bos. And man when that amps procs, hell yea! My wife be like why you smile "because im clearing these maps like a mf boss"
Dude hell yeah, I was using cloak on my skill bar but I kind of like the mobs chasing after me. Did you get 3soc in the nats helm? I tried slamming a few after I upped them.
Your build looks awesome bro I had such a good time with my charger last season, this season I went inferno sorc and I am having a hard time farming tbh. Might have to make a paladin and go vengeance haha.
Seems super strong, im gonna abuse prebuff so hard now that i know how to do it. I don't mind swapping if it makes me do 2x damage if not more. Great guide
It should be working. It reminds me of the old D2R poison javazon that would throw the plague jav then switch to her off hand with deathweb / 4 soc -20% psn facet shield.
Why do you have facets in your prebuff gear? they shouldn't work when you swap back? Or does venom have some crazy interaction that I don't understand?
I guess the community is mixed on this I’m going to do some more testing. I suggest not facet your gear instead focus on + skills. I’ll know the answer tonight.
You’d need to make a chaos claw Fal, Ohm, Um. But after that you could do full nats set with a chaos claw. I’d recommend doing mind blast until you have enough currency. I have a video on it coming soon.
So no point in prebuffing with poison skill damage like trangs gloves ? damn i just bought some. Also do you prefer rocking fort or bramble on your sin ?!?
It’s hard to do a budget build for this and stay alive. You should probably just start light traps or mind blast. Venom is probably the cheapest way to go. Full physical WW builds can get pretty expensive.
Hey man.. Just get chaos claw and run it with Natalyas..cant get most of the parts pretty cheap and its a good starter.. Will run you solid t1s immediately then just continue to build it up. Full nats 👍
@@FrankieFresh hmm I guess you are in the front tanking most of the damage, so she should always be safe. Idk I might try it, but I haven´t played much this season so far. Maybe during Christmas. Have fun m8 :)
I went with phys ww last season, only thing holding mw back from venom ww sin is the pre buff, too lazy. Although it rips even if you only do shadow killer pre buff but it leaves so much possible damage out it hurts my soul :D anyways gg build
nice build but personally I would never prebuff, ive played wwsin a lot and I never did the whole prebuff things, its just such negative qol i cant bring myself to do it. With good gear you can still get under 10 minute t3s without all that. nice video though
@@FrankieFresh heheheh i was watching what your mercenary was doing. he gets to poke a few times. but i think the new Rapture runeword is going to be massive for long duration fights, with a high level might aura. then Innocence runeword chest will proc lower resist more. I think 40ias gloves is reachable this season because i crafted a 30ias from brilliant recipe. the ias gloves is for the act 5 merc. he idles when he doesn't have attack speed. Anyways, have fun! I love your journey of assassin mind blast into venom ww sin. Tiger Strike's 3rd charge for AoE wasn't even working in Season 5 when I played this build.
I noticed you used shadow warrior and not master. You should know the mester is stronger. Thing is the shadow needs to cast a skill to get synergies. That animation bug us cute :P. The SM can get a very high venom to add to the dmg if he gets off cobra strike. It always cast the blade shield and venom , the warrior wont.
I know some players like to max shadow master. To be honest that shadow warrior falls over the whole time I probably won’t even bother with it anymore haha.
Yeah it doesn't do anything unfortunately. Try it it out. Take off your bramble and buff then put it back on. Check damage. Start new game and buff with it on. Same damage.
@@86ajm I’ll do some testing when I’m home. I’ve been asking around it looks like the community is 50/50 on this. Assassin discussion in pd2 is saying that it works.
Naw the devs nerfed other snap shotting like summons but prebuff is still OP AF. If you aren't doing it, you should start bc it's a solid 2x more DPS and some of the gear on trade site is less than a Mal.
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The +psn % on swap might not be working. Will need to do some more testing. +skills are working on swap however.
Season 7: No longer double dips on increase poison damage% (the poison damage% will be applied on hit and not on casting venom), but was massively buffed in S9 and moderately again in s10, so it's probably stronger than before this change.
This looks awesome, I've been struggling to find a non-trap sin build that's actually fun... I'm glad this got recommended to me.
It’s a blast dude. Let me know what you think of it when it’s up and running.
I generally hate pre-buffing, since I am a hoarding junkie and pick up everything, so I need all the inventory space I can get, but DAMN that was a quick clear.
GG, awesome showcase
I hate pre buffing as well. Might just put 3 5/5’s in main helm to relieve a spot.
You don’t need prebuff swap gear. I’m running a similar build and my only prebuff is 2 x shadow killers for +8 to shadow discipline. Melts everything like in his video.
Edit - they are on my weapon swap, so not adding and removing and gear to buff.
@@bagle1668 can you post armory name, i also hate pre buffing with gear swap, a weapon swap i can manage
@noahbojensen7337 I think it’s in the description
@@noahbojensen7337 not sure how to post that. I’m out of town for a bit right now.
I’m running eth chaos war fist + jade talon with ed jewels, gface, atmas for amp, soul drainers, gores, string, raven frost and random rare ring, torch and shadow gcs. 2x shadow killers on swap for +8 buff.
Far from GG gear but it still just melts everything (in T1 at least). Very important is to make sure you get your tiger strike up to 3 charges then switch to WW. It gives you a passive +40% splash damage which greatly increases the clear.
Frankie Fresh, thx for all the work you do mate, for the community and makin content. ❤ 🙏
You’re welcome dude! I haven’t been as active lately as I’d like.
I’m running a WW assassin as well and it’s amazing. My gear is more physical than psn and not as good as yours, but still melts everything. Most fun I’ve had in PD2 by far.
I love physical builds because It’s extremely fun to hear one up. I’m a WW sin lifer for sure now.
I was playing MBsin for farm and changed to Venom WWsin too, but mine is also pure poison type.
Dont use Gore n Atma ammy and, merc is A5WW for his BO and put RW:Rapture for LR.
But your type is more faster to killing speed, and carrion ring for creeper was my big oversight.
Very interesting video! tyvm!
You’re welcome dude! I was using the a1 vigor merc for a while too. For now I’m really enjoying this setup.
Omg omg my name is in your video
Hahahaha
What's your ideal merc setup?.. I can't decide between A1 vigor/might/mist conc... Or A2 with pride and might... Or A5 with bo and might and fanat or rapture lower resist....i don't know what path to go down
I don’t think there’s a correct choice. I mainly think it depends on your setup. All of my skillers have 7%frw, and almost every piece of my gear also has frw corruptions. I also decided to max out burst of speed to go faster. I don’t have ETD on my claws so the act 2 AR merc really helps with hit rating, and he only ever dies to dolls. It’s honestly just a personal preference really.
i played this a few seasons ago was my favorite, then last season played phys version but that got kinda nerf hybrid seems the way to go again.
I wish I tried it last season. I really enjoy phys builds.
FrankieFresh and PD2, feels like home! :D
Top secret commenting on pd2 videos! Hell yeahh
This build made me want to hop back on PD2! However I don't have much experience with MB sin, any recommendations on gear until I respec to WW?
+ skills with fcr, I’ll make a video on the MB sin soon.
Is there a good budget armor? Also, would this build still be decent with pride or templars on Merc?
you can switch to this with just full nats and a chaos claw. its slow but safe at the start. this was my season starter as well
Full nats set with chaos claw. You could get really cheap pan facets. Then build works fine without a merc.
I posted a basic Nats WW beginner setup and it clears fine. 16m with base gear. It’s posted in the PD2 Assassin channel and guides. Sorry in advance for the audio, was my first video. 😅
Rolled the hybrid dancer too. I went Nats with 3os in helm, claw, and armor. Stuffed in 9 cheap 4/5 facets. 8 shadow skillers 2x 3% lc with run/walk, torch anni, some mf charms. Went with act 1 vigor, faith, might armor. Some pdr so she dont die. Interesting thing is max shadow warrior, put dance on left click and cloak on right and she will cast it for u. Then rest of points in bos. And man when that amps procs, hell yea! My wife be like why you smile "because im clearing these maps like a mf boss"
Dude hell yeah, I was using cloak on my skill bar but I kind of like the mobs chasing after me. Did you get 3soc in the nats helm? I tried slamming a few after I upped them.
Yeah I slammed about 5 of them like that got lucky on the last one. But arcane and corrupted zones were so good to me had the currency.
Only Buffing I do is with a couple of plus 1 skilled shadow killers. I thought the snapshot thing got removed?
I have a pile of 12 19-20res upped without even a 2os 😢
Your build looks awesome bro I had such a good time with my charger last season, this season I went inferno sorc and I am having a hard time farming tbh. Might have to make a paladin and go vengeance haha.
Thanks dude, there’s a lot of vengeance pallys right now.x
So prebuffing with psn facets snapshots the +psn damage on venom?
Seems super strong, im gonna abuse prebuff so hard now that i know how to do it. I don't mind swapping if it makes me do 2x damage if not more. Great guide
It should be working. It reminds me of the old D2R poison javazon that would throw the plague jav then switch to her off hand with deathweb / 4 soc -20% psn facet shield.
Why do you have facets in your prebuff gear? they shouldn't work when you swap back? Or does venom have some crazy interaction that I don't understand?
I guess the community is mixed on this I’m going to do some more testing. I suggest not facet your gear instead focus on + skills. I’ll know the answer tonight.
Could you start this early on, budget or leveling? or only do ww sin once you have teh right stuff
You’d need to make a chaos claw Fal, Ohm, Um. But after that you could do full nats set with a chaos claw. I’d recommend doing mind blast until you have enough currency. I have a video on it coming soon.
So no point in prebuffing with poison skill damage like trangs gloves ? damn i just bought some. Also do you prefer rocking fort or bramble on your sin ?!?
I don’t think +% psn dmg is doing anything on switch. You need to wear it, fort wouldn’t be a horrible option. The LAEK on bramble is kind of nice…
Looks fun af, definitely considering sth like this over a ww barb bleed now.
I haven’t played a bleed barb before so I can’t compare, but this is fun af.
can you reccomend budget build for this?
It’s hard to do a budget build for this and stay alive. You should probably just start light traps or mind blast. Venom is probably the cheapest way to go. Full physical WW builds can get pretty expensive.
how about fire traps??
Hey man.. Just get chaos claw and run it with Natalyas..cant get most of the parts pretty cheap and its a good starter.. Will run you solid t1s immediately then just continue to build it up. Full nats 👍
17k poison with Whirlwind, DUDE! HELL YEAH
Baza you logged in during the recording haha.
It’s actually my preference to clear the map and then go loot since you don’t pickup gold during whirlwind. Great sin Franky!
Yoooo anytown! Thanks dude
I hope you get yourself a sick dclone claw doood. This looks like a fkin blast!
That would be sick
Crazy build! Creative.
I can’t take full credit, I had a lot of help from friends, and the community. Got a lot of inspiration from dark humility, and futureals chat also.
Sin OP
My new favorite class.
If CHAOS(FalOhmUm) is ready, is this a good build to start with?
Put it in an Eth War fist. Get a full nats set for budget.
Hi Frankie have you tried this build with a vigor merc equipping might and mist bow?
I haven’t but it sounds like fun if you can keep her alive.
@@FrankieFresh hmm I guess you are in the front tanking most of the damage, so she should always be safe. Idk I might try it, but I haven´t played much this season so far. Maybe during Christmas. Have fun m8 :)
so do you level as traps until hell ?
Light traps are very strong in hell too. Get a lower resist want with charges on swap for some immunes, or just skip light immunes.
This looks awesome!
Really fun build
What loot filter are you using.
Kryzsards
I went with phys ww last season, only thing holding mw back from venom ww sin is the pre buff, too lazy. Although it rips even if you only do shadow killer pre buff but it leaves so much possible damage out it hurts my soul :D anyways gg build
I love building phys, the pre buff gets annoying for sure.
nice build but personally I would never prebuff, ive played wwsin a lot and I never did the whole prebuff things, its just such negative qol i cant bring myself to do it. With good gear you can still get under 10 minute t3s without all that.
nice video though
Yeah I’m not a huge fan of pre buffing either. We’ll see how long it takes for me to start reducing items 1 at a time haha.
get your venom level up high enough and you only need to do it once per map. still a hassle though for sure.
Sick build!!!
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YEAH BABY VENOM WW SIN!
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@@FrankieFresh heheheh i was watching what your mercenary was doing. he gets to poke a few times. but i think the new Rapture runeword is going to be massive for long duration fights, with a high level might aura. then Innocence runeword chest will proc lower resist more. I think 40ias gloves is reachable this season because i crafted a 30ias from brilliant recipe. the ias gloves is for the act 5 merc. he idles when he doesn't have attack speed. Anyways, have fun! I love your journey of assassin mind blast into venom ww sin. Tiger Strike's 3rd charge for AoE wasn't even working in Season 5 when I played this build.
Hype!
Yo schmidtwerd!
I noticed you used shadow warrior and not master. You should know the mester is stronger. Thing is the shadow needs to cast a skill to get synergies. That animation bug us cute :P. The SM can get a very high venom to add to the dmg if he gets off cobra strike. It always cast the blade shield and venom , the warrior wont.
I know some players like to max shadow master. To be honest that shadow warrior falls over the whole time I probably won’t even bother with it anymore haha.
@@FrankieFresh Shadow warrior also get lower resist, while a lvl 44 master .. or so ( guessing) got a resist all at lvl 87
Spin to win Sin hell yeah looks fun
Hell yeah dude
Sick
Dayum
where is best place to find war fist to make chaos
I found an eth war fist in chaos sanctuary. They don’t drop very often, I know there might be some on the trade site.
could be wrong but i am pretty sure i am not... poison facets do not help with pre buff
yea, all that plus poison damage on facets and everywhere else does nothing for your venom buff. only skill level matters.
Did they fix this? I thought they reverted it back and only messed with summons?
Yeah it doesn't do anything unfortunately. Try it it out. Take off your bramble and buff then put it back on. Check damage. Start new game and buff with it on. Same damage.
@@86ajm I’ll do some testing when I’m home. I’ve been asking around it looks like the community is 50/50 on this. Assassin discussion in pd2 is saying that it works.
I thought the poison dmg didn't work on prebiff anymore
Naw the devs nerfed other snap shotting like summons but prebuff is still OP AF. If you aren't doing it, you should start bc it's a solid 2x more DPS and some of the gear on trade site is less than a Mal.
"favorite character ive ever played".... rip plague
Dude for real lol
Let’s goooo
Martymar!
Nice and cheap buils but this swapping is a pain in the ass
damn aoe is crazy nice build!
Thanks
Hc ready?
I’d change up a few things if I was playing hc with it.
lookin good, very mobile, good damage, tanky. just hold right click, very cool build!
One of my faves for sure.
so fast that you desync lll nice one
Yeah that was kind of annoying haha.
DAM.
Youneedthatforyourbuild?
Yea looks super expensive
You really just need a chaos claw and full nats set.
i can see this being great on sc, but if you lag or d/c your dead in HC
Yeah you’re dead if you dc for sure. I would build different if I was running this on hardcore.