Hey, so since I saw some confusion regarding the compilations I'll just clarify; these kinds of videos won't be super common. I just figured it would be a fun end of the year thing to do. Expect a new video in a week or two and then that's it for me until January. Take care, and happy holidays!
Dude I absolutely love this style of content sharing your own thoughts and enthusiasm is something that you are really good at, watching this makes me want to make my own video as I share a very big passion for the infamous series, but I'm still very awkward so I struggle to do it... But I don't think I could have made this any better than you did, because it comes from a place of genuine excitement and love for this series I'm sure this was very fun to make... Good Job!
Will you do a video on igi series? I realized after the igi origins trailer dropped not many people know a game series existed. The game is really old by the way.
I never understood why people didn’t like the voice for Cole in the first game. His grungy, dark voice just fitted perfectly with the setting around him.
Honestly, with the style Infamous has, og Cole's voice is perfect for the game. As for Infamous 2, the voice for Cole is perfect for that style of the game, too.
Because that’s literally all he sounded like, a grunge. Too monotone. Cole had way more personality in two, and he didn’t sound like he smoked a pack of Menthols a day like he did in the first.
I was really disapointed with Second Son tbh. All the different powers played really similar, and the very first power you get (smoke) is the most useful in nearly every situation, especially if you're playing with good karma, because you can just stun and delete large groups of enenemies extremely quickly with lethal and non lethal options. I would've preferred just having one powerset with much more fleshed out mechanics than 4 half baked ones. Smoke could've been a really interesting powerset if it was as fleshed out as lightning in Infamous 1 and 2.
@Cwavy_619 All hyperbole. Using Ad Hominems aren't points in of itself. You speak like all of that is objective. It's not. Plenty of people love the story of Second Son. First game of Infamous is *Infamously* flawed for example. I think you're looking on with rose tented goggles. And an unfair bias against the second son game, likely due to contrarianism and other popular opinion.
I personally like the fact that Delson's powers in Second Son feel half finished. They are not his powers originally and Second Light shows that the original users can use them more effectively than he can. Delson's power is simply the ability to absorb other's powers, but he can't use them to their full potential.
Yea, I always thought Delsin's conduit DNA didn't let the powers he absorbs be as strong as others to keep it fair for other conduits lol. Heck who knows, what if he has a certain power limit and that the next power he absorbs doesn't work or it replaces his oldest one? Smoke in this case.
I agree to a degree but with concrete it hurts gameplay. The others feel fleshed out but not as strong as the main user but concrete just feel bad to play.
The inFAMOUS series holds a nice place in my heart, to me Cole Macgrath is one of my favorite PlayStation Exclusive characters of all time right next to Nathan Drake from the Uncharted series. And while not being Cole, I still enjoyed Delsin Rowe as a character as he’s pretty relatable with how he acts and such throughout Second Son. It’s honestly sad how Sony keep ignoring the series, and while Sucker Punch released Ghost of Tsushima which was a great game, to me..I’m hoping one day we can see inFAMOUS return in some shape or form. Maybe a remaster of the first two titles or maybe a new game entirely, continuing off of Delsin Rowe’s story or a new character entirely.
For sure! I was so sure the BluePoint Games were making a remake so many times and then it turned out to be other games. I am pretty certain there have been some failed attempts at doing a PS4 update of 1 & 2 that got canceled for some reason. I wonder if Sucker Punch doesn't want anyone else to make an InFamous game or if Sony are just complete idiots. It could be that Sucker Punch wants to someday go back and make a really great final game, but I wish they would allow some other studio to do a re-make/re-master of the previous games. I want any excuse I can to replay these games! :)
I actually like how Reggie’s final dialogue doesn’t change regardless of your karma rating. At the end of the day, Delsin is Reggie’s brother and loves him (as far as we know) unconditionally, so his last words would be to tell Delsin that despite how much Delsin’s messed up, he still views him as his brother and cares for him. This goes great with the game’s themes of brotherhood and family, which I think it handles exceptionally well. Another way to interpret the scene would be Reggie’s last attempt at getting Delsin to change his ways by showing him despite how far he’s gone, Reggie still cares for him and wants him to do the right thing. Also the dialogue where you decide to redeem Eugene, I think Delsin is putting on an act there, trying to be this cool older brother/best friend vibe in hopes it’ll give Eugene the push he needs to get out from his hideout. It is a bit out of character, but I think it shows how much he wants to be this cool and/or respectable figure for others, which is something a lot of us can relate to.
But if you think if you get to the infamous rank and all the acts you need to do to get there it doesn’t really fit, you’ve probs killed up to about 500 innocent people and your brother says I’m proud of you, it just kinda makes as the player feel like it doesn’t matter what you do cause it’s accepted, the only major difference is the ending
@@sjt3538 Yeah you could've had Karma rank specific quotes for Reggie whilst still having him show some degree of affection towards Delsin. Have him say something to the effect of "I still believe in you" with Evil Delsin, which would setup your final chance to revert to Good Karma with Hank's appearance ensuing. Having him indiscriminately say he's proud regardless of what he's done comes off as hilariously tone death in comparison to how Zeke or Trish react to your Karma rank in prior entries.
Here's my problem with this argument. As a man with siblings of his own, the whole "But they're brothers!" Card can only go so far until it starts to fall apart. At the point where Reggie dies, Infamous Delsin has killed HUNDREDS of people, has corrupted two conduits into killing hundreds of people with him, and has shown practically ZERO remorse for his actions, and Reggie's been pushing against Infamous Delsin at damn near every turn. So for him to suddenly go, "I'm so proud of you" at that point just makes no damn sense and makes it seem like Reggie flips his opinions on a dime. Speaking of opinions. Reggie's opinion of conduits shouldn't have changed if Delsin was evil. In fact, it should've worsened due to Delsin's actions, making him the one that fully shows the character the consequences of their actions. Hell, it would have been great if Reggie actually joined the D.U.P. because he began believing that Delain was going too far and needed to be stopped, further proving my point that the whole "brothers" excuse stops working after a certain point and that even blood relatives have a line you shouldn't/can't cross.
That makes the character feel like a robot without an actual brain. At some point a guy who chose to become a cop should switch to wanting to kill his mass murderer brother.
16:34 something interesting i found about picking the heroic poster. After you decide to choose the heroic poster, if you change your karma rank to evil, those posters end up being vandalized which is a pretty cool detail.
My one big issue with First Light was the way they did the whole drugs thing which was wholesale not what Second Son said happened. In Second Son the story was that she and Brent were addicts and the reason she killed Brent was because they ran out of their supply one time and her withdrawals made her paranoid and thus killed him because she thought he took them. It was a dark story about what hard drugs do to people and how they take over people's priorities and will even hurt people they love over them. Meanwhile in this she had no apparent history of voluntary drug use and got drugged once...? And then killed him because she was out of it and didn't know who he was...? It was done to her on purpose too. None of this should logically lead into her war on drug dealers, but for some reason it does according to the story. Drug dealers had nothing to do with what happened, she was just poisoned by some prick and her brother suffered for it.
yes!! this bothered me horribly because they threw away the better version of the story. why? were they afraid people wouldn't be able to sympathise with a(n ex) drug addict? made no sense to me honestly they already had a great setup
I don't mind the small retcon, because even though it was Shane who gave her the drugs, it wasn't any different drugs than she was on, and she did have a paranoid reaction and accidentally killed him. She then went on to kill a bunch of dealers because they were the ones who kidnapped Brent, which lead to his death. I agree it did take a bit of the edge off of her character that she didn't kill Brent out of anger, but out of confusion, but then we see her totally rip Shane apart and I think that was a pretty dark moment for her. Also, remember that in Second Son we saw how Fetch remembered the events, and then in First Light we saw it from a third-person perspective. It could be that she wasn't exactly sure how she got the drugs (maybe she had taken some drugs earlier and she thought that it was a strange trip that was brought on by a panic attack) and then she felt so guilty that she remembered her role in his death to be a bit more sinister.
Shane was head of the drug dealer gang, and they were they ones who kidnapped Brent. That is why she was so ruthlessly killing them in Second Son (in the ret-con version of the story).
@@TerranIV Hallucinogenics and addictive drugs like heroin are completely different. Killing him cuz she saw him as something else and didn't even know it was him is completely different than being so hooked on drugs you end up accidentally murdering your own brother over it. So, no I don't think that was a small retcon by any means and her general hatred towards drugs and drug dealers doesn't even make any sense in its context.
A small thing, but the way Kuo got her powers were explained a bit. She was hooked up to the power transfer machine we use later in the game, connected to the ice conduits that were sealed in the same room. It's explained those ife conduits were given their powers forcefully through experimentation
Truly a masterful franchise. Second Son got heavily criticized upon release so I’m glad people are finally realizing that it was a worthy continuation and a great game all on its own. It’s a shame that the series might never continue, especially since second son was so open ended. But whether Sucker Punch’s next game is infamous 4, GOT 2, or a new IP entirely we can always count on quality from this studio. Great vid as always Aqua!
I’m still not fully on board with second son, Cole will always be best no cap, his karma choices made you feel good and bad as the player where as delsins didn’t for me and he kinda lacked character and felt a bit boring to me, he did have some good moments but Cole for infamous 2 will always be best
I'd hope for more of a remaster. A remake leaves room to change elements of the story and seeing a lot of modern interpretation of old franchise doesn't fill me with confidence.
@@arsonistchoir2187 The games kinda have plot points hideout explanation a remake like Dead Space Remake would be good, modern graphics, improve the based gameplay and complement the story and not change major plot
The shield in the first game felt like a godsend and the upgraded one refilled ur energy. I found myself using it endlessly, it also had a satisfying sound when stuff would hit it lol
My one complaint with Trish's death, is that she's not *just* unsaveable, but that she's specifically always on the tower that you aren't. If she was in some third location that you only found out about after, then that'd be fine- but the fact that the narrative has to do a Schrodinger's Cat and say you always chose The One Wrong Answer.
The relationship between Zeke and Cole was my favorite part of the second game. I bought a ps3 just to play this game and despite everything else, the thing I remember the most was the line “I don’t call you brother cuz I like the way it sounds.” Damn that was a good game
First game has always been my favorite. You felt so powerful with the upgraded evil powers and I just didn’t feel the same progression in the second game. And the lighting strike was a lot better in the first game too. The story was a lot more interesting to than the other 2 games imo, at least the beginning and ending parts. Boss fights were petty fun too, especially Kessler
The lightning bolt and shock wave are a lot better in the first game too. I always disliked how they took away nearly all his powers at the beginning. It also felt like his electricity powers took a back seat for napalm and ice. I’m fine with adding those powers, but I was just expecting them to do a lot more with his original powers. It was annoying how they got rid of things like recharging your energy by grinding on a rail and karmic overload. Infamous 2 was a great game, it just felt like a lot of wasted potential sometimes.
Yeah I get what you mean. Infamous 2 did well with improving the graphics and traversal, but it did feel like it was missing some things that made the first game special. The first game you get to upgrade all of your powers and make them a lot more powerful. Infamous 2 you don’t upgrade anything, you just unlock different variations of the power. Still loved the game though. Cole and Zekes relationship was great and their characters were a little more fleshed out. Wasn’t ever a fan of nix and kuo though.
the first infamous feels like prototype and you can just decimate everyone with ease by the end of the game, infamous 2 feels a lot better in every other way though
I feel delsin’s powers being overall underdeveloped makes a lot of sense. Given his timeline and actions he didn’t have the opportunity for much besides combat. At the start of the game his powers are new to him and he’s scared of them. Right after he gets knocked out for a week and jumps out into Seattle with no practice or experimentation just trying to fight his way to the top tooth and nail. Unlike cole who took time to learn and control his powers out of necessity to just live day by day. Realistically delsin post game has all the free time to play around now and see what he really can do. Well post good ending because bad ending delsin is a walking disaster.
2:35:17 I would have never noticed that in-game but that expression actually is gold. That is a perfect "Oh god, what the fuck, what is wrong with me, why"
I think Delsin's story was meant to be played in the neutral to semi good/bad karma. Starting in neutral, playing through most of the begining with infamy up until after corrupting fetch, and going 180° to redeem he who dwells. During the story the dialog doesnt change much but i think that strengthens the neutral/halfway bad then halfway good. Reggie says hes proud of you because at that point he knows you are trying your best to be better than you were at the start. And it makes even more sense with the story points too, hank comes and gives you powers, DUP show up and basically inflicts cruel punishment on your home for no real reason. Then you seek her out to fix it along they you obviously kill everything in yellow because no mercy for the merciless. Then fetch shows up and you help her kill drug dealers, and she moves on to kill inocents which is where you realize what your doing is exactly what the DUP did to your tribe. Just in time to meet Video boy and learning from the mistakes with fetch you choose redeem and thus starts your hero karma tree. You reach Reggie's death scene and he tells you he's proud of you because even though you struggled with what was right or wrong but you came through better. It also makes his orbital drop special where his face is more of a grimace hit even harder. He doesnt want to kill her and his face and animation shows that struggle. Those points in the story hit harder if delsin never reaches the max hero or villain and thats why i think it should be after that that you choose to max out your hero/villain role.
I like this interpretation of Delsin's journey. I think being able to craft your own version of the character is one of the best things about the morality system in the InFamous games. I know it wasn't perfect, but it was a really fun addition and I hope that any sequel we get someday will still allow us to make our own choices. Not only is it fun to sculpt the character, but it is awesome to replay the game and take the choices you didn't take the first time through and have a few new adventures!
@@TerranIV thanks i feel very strongly that the voice acting and visual cues almost completely supports my theory aswell so its nice that people like the idea. And personally with the way RDR2 chose to implement the honor system (no spoiler but that games story is amazingly well done in my opinion it should still be winning awards for its single player story). If they take their time and make different choices hit harder or have more of a permanent aspect to them, it will be the best infamous game by far. Just imagine an infamous second dawn where delsin has to now fight Fetch because of the choice you makde in second son, man that would be awesome indeed.
@@TerranIV and what really made me think up that theory was the last orbital drop. Until the last he smiles or smirks everytime he uses it except the last one when he makes the face of some one who has the weight of the world on your shoulders and have to make a choice whether ending her is the right thing because your angry or is sparing her right because reggie would have wanted too if he were there. In that one brief moment they conveyed an emotional roller-coaster so wild and crazy that the only way we'd get it is if we put our self i his shoes where he was forced into this role of hero or anti-hero. These guys honestly dont get enough credit for the visual stories that are told when there are no voicelines that would do it justice. Like rdr2 Arthur's death scene where he looks of at the sunset and it blurs into the deer or the wolf depending on karma and it ends the story before the ending even hits. Sorry im rambling my bad.
Just got the platinum for second son today I couldn’t get over how gorgeous the game is and how good the abilities were gotta be one of my favourite games rn
I sort of like Second Son, but the fact Infamous 2's original canon ending was going to be the evil ending - Suckerpunch instead saw what endings people chose and went with the good ending leading to Second Son. I would've liked to see Cole survive Infamous 2, though a good ending would've been nice if Cole survived.
How funny that this came out today since I literally just finished my Evil play through of Second Son getting the platinum trophy yesterday 😂. Infamous is such a great series and the first is my personal favorite.
The fact this is my go to video for when I need something to listen to while falling asleep is a testament to your audio mixing but commentary also! It’s been helping with my insomnia lately and I only have you to thank for that! If you see this, know I appreciate it! Thank you 🙏🏻
That neon glitch is so weird. Neon was my fav power and in both playthroughs I did I didn’t see that happen. Huh. Also love these long compilations. Gives me something to watch while going to bed
As someone who just listened to these in order multiple times any way this is both hilarious (as I will listen again), and useful (as I will listen again).
Your difficulty comments really resonated with me. When a section in a game starts taking over 10 tries it stops being all that fun for me. I like to feel a sense of progression, and I feel that I shouldn't have to put forth so much time towards something that is just a hobby of mine.
There is something about Infamous 2 that gets me latched on to this game. I never get bored of it, from its story to its gameplay. It is just the epitome of Infamous games.
My one and only issue with Second Son (other than the fact that the touchpad stuff means it will likely never be ported...) is that the devs clearly never spent any time in Seattle, and went with the rainy city stereotype. We hardly get any rain in Washington, and when we do it either sprinkles or pours depending on whether or not a typhoon decides to sweep the coast, and I've made it my mission to let everyone know that since playing Second Son.
@@ChuckDanger I'm from western Washington, the weather is exactly as I've stated before. We've gotten more rain lately, but that's just because it's February.
The Sucker Punch studio is right there in Bellevue, WA! The "Seattle" in the game is actually a remix of things in the Seattle/Bellevue area. The two bridges separating the two areas are the 520 and I90 bridges. I do agree that their Seattle and it ends up not feeling very Seattle. I think they put a little bit too much Bellevue in it. Seattle is actually very hilly, and you don't get that sense from the Seattle in Second Son. Still love being able to scale Space Needle!
@@genericname748 Don't ever tell me I'm wrong about the weather in my own state. Pulling that while claiming you're from Seattle immediately removes any legitimacy you have to me.
When you get concrete, it just... it suits better for Evil Karma because you cannot subdue with concrete. So concrete is useless with Good Karma. I think so.
Hey! I’m glad people talk about this series still. I was pretty young when second son came out, but I fell in love with the whole punk aesthetic. Plus, video is such a kick ass power. It weirdly enough got me into a bunch of stuff like graffiti art. I don’t exactly get the whole “bad karma” graffiti sometimes, but for the fish example you showed off, maybe it was that the fish were being cut apart with glee instead of just hopping by? That’s just my interpretation. Great video. Cheers!
So in the case of infamous 1's difficulty it has the hardest "hard" imo. The electric shield really came in clutch on that difficulty, the fact you could use it on the move & it restored power made it a godsend especially against snipers & rocketeers. It really let me move from cover to cover reloading essentially as I did, don't get me wrong I died A LOT, but I don't think I could have beaten the game without it.
My biggest problems with Second Son and the reason I can't consider it better than 1 & 2 are that Delsin's evil arc feels completely out of nowhere and feels like they just forced it into the game because inFamous and the Karma system are hand in hand. And more importantly to me, the fact that Delsin's power is actually absorbing other conduits powers and using them could've been used to explain why you only get the same basic abilities for each power you absorb, which still wouldve felt like an excuse, but it's better than just having no explanation. Like, you could justify it as Delsin being new to the abilites and not being able to use them to full effect, but then how does that explain how he can just slow time with Neon, or straight up turn invisible to the naked eye using Video, something neither natural user display as abilites. It just feels like they made it as a game mechanic, without wanting to dedicate the story to fleshing it out or explaining it.
The moment I watched Zeke die my life changed. Yeah we all know that our actions have consequences but there is a moment in life where it really hits us and yeah this happened to me in a game but since that moment when I was a kid I changed. Also I never played a game through the Evil Rought again (without being Second Son)
Infamous 2 to me IS a perfect sequel. The story is a classic superhero vs supervillain story with good emotional stakes and great side characters. I also love the expansion of powers Cole gets with fire and ice. So awesome.
Genuinely you're a godsend, not only normalizing the audio but MENTIONING that at the start. Too many longform videos have random loud ass spikes that scare the shit out of me for no good reason, and then I get weary of new channels that don't even do that. So here I am passing out to the same handful of youtubers over and over. Well now I've got one more. (don't worry I watch the whole thing first)
I believe why Delson's powers seem less fleshed out is cause he just got them, such as the difference between Cole in InFamous 1 and Cole in InFamous 2.
You went in DEEP with this retrospective, even though im only on the first portion of the vid. I really love and appreciate this game and the fandom around it. I remember getting the first infamous back in 09 with a ps3 for my 11th birthday. And playing through it, made me a lifelong fan. The comic book story feel, the parkour platforming and Electric superpowers were things that just resonated with me. Cole will always be my guy.
Absolutely no lie on the mic upgrade lol, that second son one audio really hit in a way I wasn't expecting, not in a bad way by any means. congrats on the new mic lol
In the tutorial for inFamous 2, the game asks you to move the right stick to look up. Whether you tilt the stick up or down, the camera moves up. This sets whether you have inverted camera or not. True genius that 99% of people will never notice.
I think Kessler never saw that John is the Beast in his original timeline. Kessler's manipulation changed how things play out leading to Cole seeing John in the second game.
I am really thankful that you gave Second Son the review it deserved. It was the first inFAMOUS game I ever played all the way through (I've played some of 2 but it was at a friend's) most every inFAMOUS fan hates on Second Son but this game holds a special place in it's heart. You mentioned Delsin running too fast causing the game to not load properly, which happens a lot in First Light. Lots of cutscene glitches with characters freezing by dialog and the environment still works the way it's supposed to
I love this video, I know it's not what you usually do (compile everything into one massive video) but it comes in handy por people like me who can watch it over a couple of days when we've got some free time. (On a side, don't mix "Ultimate" and "Solution" in the same sentence next time lol).
Reviewing childhood games makes you realize how imperfect said game was. However; as a child or whenever you first played said game, it was a fucking MAGICAL time to be alive. Playing InFAMOUS 2 way back when for the first time was amazing, from the karma system to all the characters you meet and see, it had a lot going for it and I personally was hooked. Even 10+ years later and I still listen to fade away on occasion. I’m a huge fan of infamous 2 and the collectibles and game magazines i still own are but mine to dwell on and relive those awesome memories. Great video and a shoutout to anyone who listens to fade away in 2023
You called me out within the first 30 seconds Watching while “Grinding camos or sleeping” literally the only 2 options I was debating between to listen to this 😂 Dropped a like ❤
I love the hotline lady in Second Son getting more fed up over time. “Do you have a bioterrorist incident to report” “You will not believe…” “Mr. Rowe, knock it off”
I don't think there's anything wrong with putting a game above others in your list because it's your favorite. we're human, we're allowed to be biased about things like these. as inFamous is one of my favorite series' i've played, i really enjoyed this in-depth discussion on all of the installments. i really enjoyed how you criticized the games and offered improvements on shortcomings or flaws, but still recognizing in post that they might not work, or that they may be difficult from a game design perspective. i think not a lot of people see shortcomings and offer solutions without realizing "hey maybe it's this way for a reason". for me personally, i'm not a fan of second son on anything other than its visuals and music. by its own, it's a good game - just not a good inFamous game. first light i would argue is actually better than the game it was based off of, but i still don't regard it as part of the franchise due to it having the same setting. also, "second son"? really? you'd think there'd be a more substantial reference to the original games than a weird reference to the first sons. cole's legacy doesn't count, it was hardly anything and only available for a limited time on the playstation store. i know second son could also refer to delsin being the second _protagonist_, but it definitely feels like the former reason. i'm not a fan of it. thanks for the entertaining review
I LOVE second son, it's probably my favorite game. but it's true the karmic system is watered down and doesn't really play much of a role in the story as it doesn't actually change much if at all. I love how you reviewed these games since the inFAMOUS series is probably one of my favorite game series.
Wow, nearly a million views on this video! This is a testament not just to the community’s love for inFamous, but how great your videos are! To get nearly a million views on a video this long is really impressive. I’ve seen all the individual reviews already, so I feel bad for not watching all of this compilation
The first two games of the InFAMOUS series and uncharted series are my top two greatest games of all time. Any time I boot up these games I get very very nostalgic and wanting to keep going back for more even though I have beat each series a multitude of times.
❤ I LOVE THIS SERIES! Nix absolutely deserved a DLC i LOVED her character and her backstory was so intriguing that i cried when we had to stop her in one of the two endings lol
One thing I kinda hated about inFamous 2's ending is the idea that Zeke kinda just... Doesn't seem to care about Cole's safety beyond stopping the RFI being charged the first time. You choose to save all Conduits and he cuts all ties with you. You choose to save all Human, and he's all on board, but in the moment it kinda reads as selfish in an out of character way. Him wanting to sacrifice his life for Conduits would be a good way to round off his decision to try and get powers all on his own in the first game.
A game capture of me neon running as Delson has been my phones background ever since. What a fuckn game....and it came out on my birthday.....best birthday present ever.
it’s something other people don’t really mention or think about but is very nice for to accommodate people like me that watch 1-3 hour videos just in case they fall asleep too
To be honest, the first two games deserve a remaster. Fixing the karma system to the surrounding environment, when he does bad, the city looks more disastrous, worn out and more corrupted than before. But when you do good, it slowly becomes more lively, colorful and becomes more clean. Just an idea for the first part, it would need a lot of rework done. They should add telephone poles to give that long distance travel that he was mentioning, it is very versatile and can help any player get to where they need to go wihtout having to feel like forever to get to a far away location. What would be a fun idea for fast travel, would be that, he discovered that he can turn into pure energy and go through telephone booths as a means for fast traveling, but, in order for that to be possible, you have to find those phone booths and activate it. if there is another way he can do so, it might fit better than what i provided, given how he does not yet know such a skill. Every new task should focus solely on what cole had unlocked, enhancing that specific ability in order to make it more useful for any upcoming boss fight, allowing for a player to have some fun with the power dynamic that they would have with the bosses. The shield could possibly be enhanced, so a mission will solely focus on the particular practice. Getting you to get use to the new discovery of his powers. Then again, there would have to be a lot of thought into that idea, since the fighting style and remote inputs would have to have some kind of mechanic that would work like ghost of Tsushima. Holding R1 to change the style of fighting, allowing the player to use the many forms of skill sets that he learns. Also, i would love if there were so many different kind of dialogues with his karmic choices. Some are cool with what he has done, while others, would be horrified or rude. Changing the way they act in a very specific way. It would pretty much force players to accept the many outcomes of the given effects that they decided to choose. What i would love that there was some kind of character with time like abilities. But she would be so unnoticeable that he would soon meet, her, causing events to become paradoxical. Even though he was not the cause after going back in time to not steal it, someone else did, causing those same events to replay again, realizing that he can never prevent the many events replaying, it makes more sense than the evil version of him going back to pay himself to just simply replay events that could have been prevented. Onto the second, after the first game. We then are introduced to a new mechanic, weapons. I know that he already has an amp, but imagine the electric capabilities to his powers, coming upon gold, when using his electric based powers, realizes that he can reshape and change the textures of gold, using it as a weapon slash tool, needed for mission that it can be used for. It is obvious that i have not played the two games yet and have no full understanding of this character, but i would like if anyone would make some changes to these ideas and offer some better improved ones that can be more realistic and fit into the world.
I'm only on the 20 mins. mark and maybe this will be said in the games with Cole but, I found out that shooting metallic things like generators, trash dumpsters, or cars after they've exploded can be hit with the normal bolt shots and then the electricity from that can be absorbed to heal and gain power back. It helped me in the hardest parts of the games.
Infamous (1) is my favorite game of all time. Was really sad and underwhelmed after playing 2 with a new voice actor and none of the antagonists returning (especially my baby Sasha 💔) and the reveal of who the beast was...
Infamous is what got me to side with PlayStation way back in the day. Second Son was my first ever platinum trophy game and also my absolute favorite game I have ever played (maybe second to Outer Wilds, it’s a close fight). The relationships between characters completely drew me in and was the first game to get me actually emotionally invested and devastated me when Reggie was killed making my evil play through feel very rewarding and vengeful. The depth to Augustine as a villain was incredible especially with her intentions and character being further fleshed out through the First Light dlc as well as the origami side quest stuff in Second Son alluding to the paper powered conduit that she was originally protecting. All of this to say that I loved the video and getting to revisiting some of my favorite video game memories! (I still chuckle at the cheesiness of Festival of Blood)
Totally agree. Second Son is one of my fav games as well (only Returnal has ever felt close to the level of power and traversal in Second Son). Man, every time I play the game and Reggie dies it hits me so hard! Reggie's death really helped elevate Delsin's character as he finally realized he had to grow up and be a hero, but I always wonder if he survived. Hank says he never heard of Augustine killing anyone, so maybe if someone is fully encased in concrete they are kind of frozen. Also, if Reggie happens to also be a Conduit, maybe his body went into some sort of stasis. Anyways, I'm glad you likes Second Son as well. Maybe we will get another InFamous game someday!
Yo, straight up felt called out at the beggining of the video. Didn´t know so many people watched your videos while grinding. Amazing content as always!
Dude, I absolutely love this style of content sharing your thoughts and enthusiasm is something that you are good at, watching this makes me want to make my video as I share a very big passion for the infamous series, but I'm still very awkward so I struggle to do it... But I don't think I could have made this any better than you did, because it comes from a place of genuine excitement and love for this series I'm sure this was very fun to make... Good Job!
I had completely forgotten this game existed until I 5 minutes into the video and finally recognized the game. I used to love this game so much when I was a kid 🥹 so thank you for bringing back so many memories I had completely forgotten they even existed.
How to make Infamous 3. 1. Delsin is the main character. 2. Instead of having his powers work the way they did in second son, have it work like abilities rather then weapons to be switched from, And for goodness sake make the guy have some fun with his powers, let him combine it and make some weird shit out of it, concrete with smoke makes lava rocks or neon with video makes neon shields or something. Go bananas with the mixture. 3. Take out the choice system, either take it out or don't make it a "are you an asshole?" or "are you a saint?" bull. AND then 4. Profit???
**Reads title** The 1st two are timeless. Festival of Blood, was fun. SecondSon, was, eh…got bored of it by the time I started First Light. Didn’t bother finishing it
The one thing that annoys me is they could have easily brought Cole back since the ending of the second game shows lighting striking they could easily have said he was revived by the lighting striking the boat and him and zeke going into hiding when the dup started taking conduits then Delson going after the dup catching coles eye and getting him to come out of hiding
@shinburninggodzilla2261 that doesn't fit delson evil Karma in second son makes literally no sense because delson does not come off as a character who enjoys killing just cause he's just a kid who wants to save his tribe
I always wanted a version of Kessler that came back from another timeline (as long as he traveled back before Cole got his powers, all Kesslers would arrive in the same timeline). Maybe he was off in Australia or laying low to see what would happen with the other Kessler, and then he helped Augustine make the DUP. (We never find out who is talking to her in her earpiece. I always imagine it was some version of Cole/Kessler).
I love the reggie/delsin dynamic in infamous second son partly because their voice actors (travis willingham and troy baker respectively) are like real life best friends
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Hey, so since I saw some confusion regarding the compilations I'll just clarify; these kinds of videos won't be super common. I just figured it would be a fun end of the year thing to do. Expect a new video in a week or two and then that's it for me until January. Take care, and happy holidays!
Please do a video essay on Ace combat 7 and metal gear solid 5 phantom pain
Dude I absolutely love this style of content sharing your own thoughts and enthusiasm is something that you are really good at, watching this makes me want to make my own video as I share a very big passion for the infamous series, but I'm still very awkward so I struggle to do it... But I don't think I could have made this any better than you did, because it comes from a place of genuine excitement and love for this series I'm sure this was very fun to make... Good Job!
I'm surprised ya didn't play it on ps4
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Will you do a video on igi series? I realized after the igi origins trailer dropped not many people know a game series existed. The game is really old by the way.
I never understood why people didn’t like the voice for Cole in the first game. His grungy, dark voice just fitted perfectly with the setting around him.
I loved his og actor.
I don't think he was hated but they wanted someone who could also do mocap for Cole.
Honestly, with the style Infamous has, og Cole's voice is perfect for the game. As for Infamous 2, the voice for Cole is perfect for that style of the game, too.
Because that’s literally all he sounded like, a grunge. Too monotone. Cole had way more personality in two, and he didn’t sound like he smoked a pack of Menthols a day like he did in the first.
They should’ve kept the voice actor from the first game and used him for the evil karma version of cole in infamous 2
I’ll never forget the first time I booted up second son. It still blows my mind how much effort they put into that game
Same the only game too mae the touch pad useful as well
@@theoutsiderjess1869 Killzone Shadow Fall also really used the touchpad
I was really disapointed with Second Son tbh. All the different powers played really similar, and the very first power you get (smoke) is the most useful in nearly every situation, especially if you're playing with good karma, because you can just stun and delete large groups of enenemies extremely quickly with lethal and non lethal options. I would've preferred just having one powerset with much more fleshed out mechanics than 4 half baked ones.
Smoke could've been a really interesting powerset if it was as fleshed out as lightning in Infamous 1 and 2.
@Cwavy_619 All hyperbole. Using Ad Hominems aren't points in of itself. You speak like all of that is objective. It's not. Plenty of people love the story of Second Son. First game of Infamous is *Infamously* flawed for example. I think you're looking on with rose tented goggles. And an unfair bias against the second son game, likely due to contrarianism and other popular opinion.
@Cwavy_619 look up how good the game was rated it’s a great game man, it holds up beautifully today and it looks amazing
God watching this just made me realize a 60 fps remaster of infamous on modern hardware would look fucking incredible
I think what would suit things better would be a full remake for PS5
@@ColtComanche why? You risk losing the artstyle
@@dadenelson7570 Because the game design is clunky and outdated
@@ColtComanche not everything needs to play like uncharted and the last of us, I promise
@@ColtComanche i agree completely i'd be all for a Dead Space style remake of Infamous 1
I personally like the fact that Delson's powers in Second Son feel half finished. They are not his powers originally and Second Light shows that the original users can use them more effectively than he can. Delson's power is simply the ability to absorb other's powers, but he can't use them to their full potential.
Yea, I always thought Delsin's conduit DNA didn't let the powers he absorbs be as strong as others to keep it fair for other conduits lol.
Heck who knows, what if he has a certain power limit and that the next power he absorbs doesn't work or it replaces his oldest one? Smoke in this case.
I agree to a degree but with concrete it hurts gameplay. The others feel fleshed out but not as strong as the main user but concrete just feel bad to play.
I've always looked at it to Delsin being a Jack Of All Trades but master of none
Did you they make a new game? I've never heard of second light before
@@br0dyj08n9 they likely meant first light
The inFAMOUS series holds a nice place in my heart, to me Cole Macgrath is one of my favorite PlayStation Exclusive characters of all time right next to Nathan Drake from the Uncharted series. And while not being Cole, I still enjoyed Delsin Rowe as a character as he’s pretty relatable with how he acts and such throughout Second Son.
It’s honestly sad how Sony keep ignoring the series, and while Sucker Punch released Ghost of Tsushima which was a great game, to me..I’m hoping one day we can see inFAMOUS return in some shape or form.
Maybe a remaster of the first two titles or maybe a new game entirely, continuing off of Delsin Rowe’s story or a new character entirely.
@Cwavy_619 Damn didnt know that you spoke for the whole world. Its ok to not like the games but dont act like an idiot mate.
@Cwavy_619 You're correct....my actual mates arent as childish as someone like you.
@Cwavy_619 I want more Deslin
Wasn't the last game first light tho?
@@playerback7722 yes but that was an DLC expansion. Not a full game title
I want another InFamous game so badly, such a great series and theres so much they could do with it
The series has a lot of gameplay and story potential, can’t believe second son came out almost 9 years ago
For sure! I was so sure the BluePoint Games were making a remake so many times and then it turned out to be other games. I am pretty certain there have been some failed attempts at doing a PS4 update of 1 & 2 that got canceled for some reason. I wonder if Sucker Punch doesn't want anyone else to make an InFamous game or if Sony are just complete idiots. It could be that Sucker Punch wants to someday go back and make a really great final game, but I wish they would allow some other studio to do a re-make/re-master of the previous games. I want any excuse I can to replay these games! :)
Infamous second sun was pretty trash tho
This series is so mid.
Remastered infamous 1 and 2 anyone?
I actually like how Reggie’s final dialogue doesn’t change regardless of your karma rating. At the end of the day, Delsin is Reggie’s brother and loves him (as far as we know) unconditionally, so his last words would be to tell Delsin that despite how much Delsin’s messed up, he still views him as his brother and cares for him. This goes great with the game’s themes of brotherhood and family, which I think it handles exceptionally well. Another way to interpret the scene would be Reggie’s last attempt at getting Delsin to change his ways by showing him despite how far he’s gone, Reggie still cares for him and wants him to do the right thing.
Also the dialogue where you decide to redeem Eugene, I think Delsin is putting on an act there, trying to be this cool older brother/best friend vibe in hopes it’ll give Eugene the push he needs to get out from his hideout. It is a bit out of character, but I think it shows how much he wants to be this cool and/or respectable figure for others, which is something a lot of us can relate to.
But if you think if you get to the infamous rank and all the acts you need to do to get there it doesn’t really fit, you’ve probs killed up to about 500 innocent people and your brother says I’m proud of you, it just kinda makes as the player feel like it doesn’t matter what you do cause it’s accepted, the only major difference is the ending
@@sjt3538 Yeah you could've had Karma rank specific quotes for Reggie whilst still having him show some degree of affection towards Delsin. Have him say something to the effect of "I still believe in you" with Evil Delsin, which would setup your final chance to revert to Good Karma with Hank's appearance ensuing. Having him indiscriminately say he's proud regardless of what he's done comes off as hilariously tone death in comparison to how Zeke or Trish react to your Karma rank in prior entries.
Here's my problem with this argument. As a man with siblings of his own, the whole "But they're brothers!" Card can only go so far until it starts to fall apart.
At the point where Reggie dies, Infamous Delsin has killed HUNDREDS of people, has corrupted two conduits into killing hundreds of people with him, and has shown practically ZERO remorse for his actions, and Reggie's been pushing against Infamous Delsin at damn near every turn. So for him to suddenly go, "I'm so proud of you" at that point just makes no damn sense and makes it seem like Reggie flips his opinions on a dime.
Speaking of opinions. Reggie's opinion of conduits shouldn't have changed if Delsin was evil. In fact, it should've worsened due to Delsin's actions, making him the one that fully shows the character the consequences of their actions. Hell, it would have been great if Reggie actually joined the D.U.P. because he began believing that Delain was going too far and needed to be stopped, further proving my point that the whole "brothers" excuse stops working after a certain point and that even blood relatives have a line you shouldn't/can't cross.
That makes the character feel like a robot without an actual brain.
At some point a guy who chose to become a cop should switch to wanting to kill his mass murderer brother.
This series and Ghost of Tsushima has cemented Sucker Punch as probably my favourite game development studio.
Same but that was already true for me with Sly Cooper.
16:34 something interesting i found about picking the heroic poster. After you decide to choose the heroic poster, if you change your karma rank to evil, those posters end up being vandalized which is a pretty cool detail.
My one big issue with First Light was the way they did the whole drugs thing which was wholesale not what Second Son said happened. In Second Son the story was that she and Brent were addicts and the reason she killed Brent was because they ran out of their supply one time and her withdrawals made her paranoid and thus killed him because she thought he took them. It was a dark story about what hard drugs do to people and how they take over people's priorities and will even hurt people they love over them. Meanwhile in this she had no apparent history of voluntary drug use and got drugged once...? And then killed him because she was out of it and didn't know who he was...? It was done to her on purpose too. None of this should logically lead into her war on drug dealers, but for some reason it does according to the story. Drug dealers had nothing to do with what happened, she was just poisoned by some prick and her brother suffered for it.
Exactly my thoughts, thanks for saying it.
yes!! this bothered me horribly because they threw away the better version of the story. why? were they afraid people wouldn't be able to sympathise with a(n ex) drug addict? made no sense to me honestly they already had a great setup
I don't mind the small retcon, because even though it was Shane who gave her the drugs, it wasn't any different drugs than she was on, and she did have a paranoid reaction and accidentally killed him. She then went on to kill a bunch of dealers because they were the ones who kidnapped Brent, which lead to his death. I agree it did take a bit of the edge off of her character that she didn't kill Brent out of anger, but out of confusion, but then we see her totally rip Shane apart and I think that was a pretty dark moment for her.
Also, remember that in Second Son we saw how Fetch remembered the events, and then in First Light we saw it from a third-person perspective. It could be that she wasn't exactly sure how she got the drugs (maybe she had taken some drugs earlier and she thought that it was a strange trip that was brought on by a panic attack) and then she felt so guilty that she remembered her role in his death to be a bit more sinister.
Shane was head of the drug dealer gang, and they were they ones who kidnapped Brent. That is why she was so ruthlessly killing them in Second Son (in the ret-con version of the story).
@@TerranIV Hallucinogenics and addictive drugs like heroin are completely different. Killing him cuz she saw him as something else and didn't even know it was him is completely different than being so hooked on drugs you end up accidentally murdering your own brother over it. So, no I don't think that was a small retcon by any means and her general hatred towards drugs and drug dealers doesn't even make any sense in its context.
1ST We had A Lofi Arkham Series Retrospective to Sleep/Relax/Study to NOW We Have A InFAMOUS Series Retrospective to Sleep/Relax/Study to!!
Infamous 1 blew my mind as a child. I think is was the second or third ps3 i ever played. Even now 15 years later i still love it ❤️
I love the fact that Delsin"s vest in the villain playthrough shows the red bird killing the blue one and then wearing its skull
A small thing, but the way Kuo got her powers were explained a bit. She was hooked up to the power transfer machine we use later in the game, connected to the ice conduits that were sealed in the same room. It's explained those ife conduits were given their powers forcefully through experimentation
Truly a masterful franchise. Second Son got heavily criticized upon release so I’m glad people are finally realizing that it was a worthy continuation and a great game all on its own. It’s a shame that the series might never continue, especially since second son was so open ended. But whether Sucker Punch’s next game is infamous 4, GOT 2, or a new IP entirely we can always count on quality from this studio. Great vid as always Aqua!
Still hoping Sucker Punch go back to Sly Cooper at some point.
Really?
They’re all roughly the same quality. Mid.
@@Burn-vi7sn You have bad taste in games then
I’m still not fully on board with second son, Cole will always be best no cap, his karma choices made you feel good and bad as the player where as delsins didn’t for me and he kinda lacked character and felt a bit boring to me, he did have some good moments but Cole for infamous 2 will always be best
A remake treatment like Tlou part 1 would be so good of the 1st two games
I'd hope for more of a remaster. A remake leaves room to change elements of the story and seeing a lot of modern interpretation of old franchise doesn't fill me with confidence.
@@arsonistchoir2187 The games kinda have plot points hideout explanation a remake like Dead Space Remake would be good, modern graphics, improve the based gameplay and complement the story and not change major plot
Nah leave them to die. They’re not great games.
The shield in the first game felt like a godsend and the upgraded one refilled ur energy. I found myself using it endlessly, it also had a satisfying sound when stuff would hit it lol
My one complaint with Trish's death, is that she's not *just* unsaveable, but that she's specifically always on the tower that you aren't. If she was in some third location that you only found out about after, then that'd be fine- but the fact that the narrative has to do a Schrodinger's Cat and say you always chose The One Wrong Answer.
Why would Kessler let Trish live though?
@@street_sign416he would still just kill her at the third location
The relationship between Zeke and Cole was my favorite part of the second game. I bought a ps3 just to play this game and despite everything else, the thing I remember the most was the line “I don’t call you brother cuz I like the way it sounds.” Damn that was a good game
First game has always been my favorite. You felt so powerful with the upgraded evil powers and I just didn’t feel the same progression in the second game. And the lighting strike was a lot better in the first game too. The story was a lot more interesting to than the other 2 games imo, at least the beginning and ending parts. Boss fights were petty fun too, especially Kessler
The lightning bolt and shock wave are a lot better in the first game too. I always disliked how they took away nearly all his powers at the beginning. It also felt like his electricity powers took a back seat for napalm and ice. I’m fine with adding those powers, but I was just expecting them to do a lot more with his original powers. It was annoying how they got rid of things like recharging your energy by grinding on a rail and karmic overload. Infamous 2 was a great game, it just felt like a lot of wasted potential sometimes.
Yeah I get what you mean. Infamous 2 did well with improving the graphics and traversal, but it did feel like it was missing some things that made the first game special. The first game you get to upgrade all of your powers and make them a lot more powerful. Infamous 2 you don’t upgrade anything, you just unlock different variations of the power. Still loved the game though. Cole and Zekes relationship was great and their characters were a little more fleshed out. Wasn’t ever a fan of nix and kuo though.
The powers were better in the 2nd game to me. Thrusters were improved. Way more cool abilties like throwing cars at enemies
the first infamous feels like prototype and you can just decimate everyone with ease by the end of the game, infamous 2 feels a lot better in every other way though
2nd game was more improved and better you're blinded by nostalgia from the first game.
I feel delsin’s powers being overall underdeveloped makes a lot of sense. Given his timeline and actions he didn’t have the opportunity for much besides combat. At the start of the game his powers are new to him and he’s scared of them. Right after he gets knocked out for a week and jumps out into Seattle with no practice or experimentation just trying to fight his way to the top tooth and nail. Unlike cole who took time to learn and control his powers out of necessity to just live day by day. Realistically delsin post game has all the free time to play around now and see what he really can do. Well post good ending because bad ending delsin is a walking disaster.
2:35:17 I would have never noticed that in-game but that expression actually is gold. That is a perfect "Oh god, what the fuck, what is wrong with me, why"
I think Delsin's story was meant to be played in the neutral to semi good/bad karma. Starting in neutral, playing through most of the begining with infamy up until after corrupting fetch, and going 180° to redeem he who dwells. During the story the dialog doesnt change much but i think that strengthens the neutral/halfway bad then halfway good. Reggie says hes proud of you because at that point he knows you are trying your best to be better than you were at the start. And it makes even more sense with the story points too, hank comes and gives you powers, DUP show up and basically inflicts cruel punishment on your home for no real reason. Then you seek her out to fix it along they you obviously kill everything in yellow because no mercy for the merciless. Then fetch shows up and you help her kill drug dealers, and she moves on to kill inocents which is where you realize what your doing is exactly what the DUP did to your tribe. Just in time to meet Video boy and learning from the mistakes with fetch you choose redeem and thus starts your hero karma tree. You reach Reggie's death scene and he tells you he's proud of you because even though you struggled with what was right or wrong but you came through better. It also makes his orbital drop special where his face is more of a grimace hit even harder. He doesnt want to kill her and his face and animation shows that struggle.
Those points in the story hit harder if delsin never reaches the max hero or villain and thats why i think it should be after that that you choose to max out your hero/villain role.
I like this interpretation of Delsin's journey. I think being able to craft your own version of the character is one of the best things about the morality system in the InFamous games. I know it wasn't perfect, but it was a really fun addition and I hope that any sequel we get someday will still allow us to make our own choices. Not only is it fun to sculpt the character, but it is awesome to replay the game and take the choices you didn't take the first time through and have a few new adventures!
@@TerranIV thanks i feel very strongly that the voice acting and visual cues almost completely supports my theory aswell so its nice that people like the idea.
And personally with the way RDR2 chose to implement the honor system (no spoiler but that games story is amazingly well done in my opinion it should still be winning awards for its single player story). If they take their time and make different choices hit harder or have more of a permanent aspect to them, it will be the best infamous game by far. Just imagine an infamous second dawn where delsin has to now fight Fetch because of the choice you makde in second son, man that would be awesome indeed.
@@TerranIV and what really made me think up that theory was the last orbital drop. Until the last he smiles or smirks everytime he uses it except the last one when he makes the face of some one who has the weight of the world on your shoulders and have to make a choice whether ending her is the right thing because your angry or is sparing her right because reggie would have wanted too if he were there. In that one brief moment they conveyed an emotional roller-coaster so wild and crazy that the only way we'd get it is if we put our self i his shoes where he was forced into this role of hero or anti-hero. These guys honestly dont get enough credit for the visual stories that are told when there are no voicelines that would do it justice.
Like rdr2 Arthur's death scene where he looks of at the sunset and it blurs into the deer or the wolf depending on karma and it ends the story before the ending even hits.
Sorry im rambling my bad.
Just got the platinum for second son today I couldn’t get over how gorgeous the game is and how good the abilities were gotta be one of my favourite games rn
I sort of like Second Son, but the fact Infamous 2's original canon ending was going to be the evil ending - Suckerpunch instead saw what endings people chose and went with the good ending leading to Second Son. I would've liked to see Cole survive Infamous 2, though a good ending would've been nice if Cole survived.
How funny that this came out today since I literally just finished my Evil play through of Second Son getting the platinum trophy yesterday 😂. Infamous is such a great series and the first is my personal favorite.
Meanwhile this came out the day I decided to play Second Son for the first time after seeing it on the PS Plus catalog
The fact this is my go to video for when I need something to listen to while falling asleep is a testament to your audio mixing but commentary also! It’s been helping with my insomnia lately and I only have you to thank for that! If you see this, know I appreciate it! Thank you 🙏🏻
That neon glitch is so weird. Neon was my fav power and in both playthroughs I did I didn’t see that happen. Huh. Also love these long compilations. Gives me something to watch while going to bed
As someone who just listened to these in order multiple times any way this is both hilarious (as I will listen again), and useful (as I will listen again).
Man I loved this series. Had so much potential to carry on. I really hope they bring it back
0:39 LOL the visuals to accompany "I remember waking up"
Your difficulty comments really resonated with me. When a section in a game starts taking over 10 tries it stops being all that fun for me. I like to feel a sense of progression, and I feel that I shouldn't have to put forth so much time towards something that is just a hobby of mine.
There is something about Infamous 2 that gets me latched on to this game. I never get bored of it, from its story to its gameplay. It is just the epitome of Infamous games.
'There is something about infamous 2 that gets me latched on-'.
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(another, one exampled reason) Lore-wise:
My one and only issue with Second Son (other than the fact that the touchpad stuff means it will likely never be ported...) is that the devs clearly never spent any time in Seattle, and went with the rainy city stereotype. We hardly get any rain in Washington, and when we do it either sprinkles or pours depending on whether or not a typhoon decides to sweep the coast, and I've made it my mission to let everyone know that since playing Second Son.
I disagree. It rains a bunch in western Washington.
@@ChuckDanger I'm from western Washington, the weather is exactly as I've stated before. We've gotten more rain lately, but that's just because it's February.
The Sucker Punch studio is right there in Bellevue, WA! The "Seattle" in the game is actually a remix of things in the Seattle/Bellevue area. The two bridges separating the two areas are the 520 and I90 bridges. I do agree that their Seattle and it ends up not feeling very Seattle. I think they put a little bit too much Bellevue in it. Seattle is actually very hilly, and you don't get that sense from the Seattle in Second Son. Still love being able to scale Space Needle!
@@satorukuroshiro I live in Seattle and have most of my life. You're just completely wrong.
@@genericname748 Don't ever tell me I'm wrong about the weather in my own state. Pulling that while claiming you're from Seattle immediately removes any legitimacy you have to me.
When you get concrete, it just... it suits better for Evil Karma because you cannot subdue with concrete. So concrete is useless with Good Karma. I think so.
That unlimited power was perfect!! Hahaha Also it’s funny how you don’t remember how bad frame rates were until you go back and play now a days.
Hey! I’m glad people talk about this series still. I was pretty young when second son came out, but I fell in love with the whole punk aesthetic. Plus, video is such a kick ass power. It weirdly enough got me into a bunch of stuff like graffiti art. I don’t exactly get the whole “bad karma” graffiti sometimes, but for the fish example you showed off, maybe it was that the fish were being cut apart with glee instead of just hopping by? That’s just my interpretation. Great video. Cheers!
So in the case of infamous 1's difficulty it has the hardest "hard" imo.
The electric shield really came in clutch on that difficulty, the fact you could use it on the move & it restored power made it a godsend especially against snipers & rocketeers. It really let me move from cover to cover reloading essentially as I did, don't get me wrong I died A LOT, but I don't think I could have beaten the game without it.
My biggest problems with Second Son and the reason I can't consider it better than 1 & 2 are that Delsin's evil arc feels completely out of nowhere and feels like they just forced it into the game because inFamous and the Karma system are hand in hand.
And more importantly to me, the fact that Delsin's power is actually absorbing other conduits powers and using them could've been used to explain why you only get the same basic abilities for each power you absorb, which still wouldve felt like an excuse, but it's better than just having no explanation. Like, you could justify it as Delsin being new to the abilites and not being able to use them to full effect, but then how does that explain how he can just slow time with Neon, or straight up turn invisible to the naked eye using Video, something neither natural user display as abilites. It just feels like they made it as a game mechanic, without wanting to dedicate the story to fleshing it out or explaining it.
It’s just game mechanics
the bit about the girlfriend (person) trusting tv over boyfriend (close-one) is realistic from my experience
tf happened bruh were u a terrorist on live news
@@vaultboy5492 no i know people who watch fox news
@@tylernilson7021 and were you on fox news for commiting terrorist acts
Why do you support someone who voted for Jim Crowe laws?
@tylernilson7021 MSNBC is worse
The moment I watched Zeke die my life changed. Yeah we all know that our actions have consequences but there is a moment in life where it really hits us and yeah this happened to me in a game but since that moment when I was a kid I changed. Also I never played a game through the Evil Rought again (without being Second Son)
Always a treat when That boy aqua drops another video
I love how you completely forgot that you don't have access to both kuo's and nix's powers until ng+.
Infamous 2 to me IS a perfect sequel. The story is a classic superhero vs supervillain story with good emotional stakes and great side characters. I also love the expansion of powers Cole gets with fire and ice. So awesome.
Genuinely you're a godsend, not only normalizing the audio but MENTIONING that at the start. Too many longform videos have random loud ass spikes that scare the shit out of me for no good reason, and then I get weary of new channels that don't even do that. So here I am passing out to the same handful of youtubers over and over. Well now I've got one more. (don't worry I watch the whole thing first)
I believe why Delson's powers seem less fleshed out is cause he just got them, such as the difference between Cole in InFamous 1 and Cole in InFamous 2.
You went in DEEP with this retrospective, even though im only on the first portion of the vid. I really love and appreciate this game and the fandom around it. I remember getting the first infamous back in 09 with a ps3 for my 11th birthday. And playing through it, made me a lifelong fan. The comic book story feel, the parkour platforming and Electric superpowers were things that just resonated with me. Cole will always be my guy.
Absolutely no lie on the mic upgrade lol, that second son one audio really hit in a way I wasn't expecting, not in a bad way by any means. congrats on the new mic lol
I wish they made another game literally. The series is just too good
In the tutorial for inFamous 2, the game asks you to move the right stick to look up. Whether you tilt the stick up or down, the camera moves up. This sets whether you have inverted camera or not. True genius that 99% of people will never notice.
Wow, that’s a stroke of genius!
I think Kessler never saw that John is the Beast in his original timeline.
Kessler's manipulation changed how things play out leading to Cole seeing John in the second game.
I am really thankful that you gave Second Son the review it deserved. It was the first inFAMOUS game I ever played all the way through (I've played some of 2 but it was at a friend's) most every inFAMOUS fan hates on Second Son but this game holds a special place in it's heart. You mentioned Delsin running too fast causing the game to not load properly, which happens a lot in First Light. Lots of cutscene glitches with characters freezing by dialog and the environment still works the way it's supposed to
Liked and subscribed instantly because you called me out for playing this while laying down for bed. Great video!
Yo consistently balanced audio is so friggin clutch
I love this video, I know it's not what you usually do (compile everything into one massive video) but it comes in handy por people like me who can watch it over a couple of days when we've got some free time.
(On a side, don't mix "Ultimate" and "Solution" in the same sentence next time lol).
Reviewing childhood games makes you realize how imperfect said game was. However; as a child or whenever you first played said game, it was a fucking MAGICAL time to be alive.
Playing InFAMOUS 2 way back when for the first time was amazing, from the karma system to all the characters you meet and see, it had a lot going for it and I personally was hooked. Even 10+ years later and I still listen to fade away on occasion. I’m a huge fan of infamous 2 and the collectibles and game magazines i still own are but mine to dwell on and relive those awesome memories.
Great video and a shoutout to anyone who listens to fade away in 2023
You called me out within the first 30 seconds
Watching while “Grinding camos or sleeping” literally the only 2 options I was debating between to listen to this 😂
Dropped a like ❤
I love the hotline lady in Second Son getting more fed up over time.
“Do you have a bioterrorist incident to report”
“You will not believe…”
“Mr. Rowe, knock it off”
I don't think there's anything wrong with putting a game above others in your list because it's your favorite. we're human, we're allowed to be biased about things like these.
as inFamous is one of my favorite series' i've played, i really enjoyed this in-depth discussion on all of the installments. i really enjoyed how you criticized the games and offered improvements on shortcomings or flaws, but still recognizing in post that they might not work, or that they may be difficult from a game design perspective. i think not a lot of people see shortcomings and offer solutions without realizing "hey maybe it's this way for a reason".
for me personally, i'm not a fan of second son on anything other than its visuals and music. by its own, it's a good game - just not a good inFamous game. first light i would argue is actually better than the game it was based off of, but i still don't regard it as part of the franchise due to it having the same setting.
also, "second son"? really? you'd think there'd be a more substantial reference to the original games than a weird reference to the first sons. cole's legacy doesn't count, it was hardly anything and only available for a limited time on the playstation store. i know second son could also refer to delsin being the second _protagonist_, but it definitely feels like the former reason. i'm not a fan of it.
thanks for the entertaining review
👍 agreed
I LOVE second son, it's probably my favorite game. but it's true the karmic system is watered down and doesn't really play much of a role in the story as it doesn't actually change much if at all. I love how you reviewed these games since the inFAMOUS series is probably one of my favorite game series.
Anyone else think we need a remake/remaster of the first 2 Infamous games?
Yup
Yup they should do a remake for sure
Wow, nearly a million views on this video! This is a testament not just to the community’s love for inFamous, but how great your videos are! To get nearly a million views on a video this long is really impressive. I’ve seen all the individual reviews already, so I feel bad for not watching all of this compilation
The first two games of the InFAMOUS series and uncharted series are my top two greatest games of all time. Any time I boot up these games I get very very nostalgic and wanting to keep going back for more even though I have beat each series a multitude of times.
❤ I LOVE THIS SERIES! Nix absolutely deserved a DLC i LOVED her character and her backstory was so intriguing that i cried when we had to stop her in one of the two endings lol
This happened to my brother too. He got Infamous whilst they got hacked. I enjoyed the crap out of this game
One thing I kinda hated about inFamous 2's ending is the idea that Zeke kinda just... Doesn't seem to care about Cole's safety beyond stopping the RFI being charged the first time.
You choose to save all Conduits and he cuts all ties with you. You choose to save all Human, and he's all on board, but in the moment it kinda reads as selfish in an out of character way. Him wanting to sacrifice his life for Conduits would be a good way to round off his decision to try and get powers all on his own in the first game.
That would have been a great completion of his character arc.
A game capture of me neon running as Delson has been my phones background ever since. What a fuckn game....and it came out on my birthday.....best birthday present ever.
it’s something other people don’t really mention or think about but is very nice for to accommodate people like me that watch 1-3 hour videos just in case they fall asleep too
If you have a mid to high end PC then you can emulate the first and second game as well as Festival Of Blood at 40 to 60 fps :)
To be honest, the first two games deserve a remaster. Fixing the karma system to the surrounding environment, when he does bad, the city looks more disastrous, worn out and more corrupted than before. But when you do good, it slowly becomes more lively, colorful and becomes more clean. Just an idea for the first part, it would need a lot of rework done.
They should add telephone poles to give that long distance travel that he was mentioning, it is very versatile and can help any player get to where they need to go wihtout having to feel like forever to get to a far away location. What would be a fun idea for fast travel, would be that, he discovered that he can turn into pure energy and go through telephone booths as a means for fast traveling, but, in order for that to be possible, you have to find those phone booths and activate it. if there is another way he can do so, it might fit better than what i provided, given how he does not yet know such a skill. Every new task should focus solely on what cole had unlocked, enhancing that specific ability in order to make it more useful for any upcoming boss fight, allowing for a player to have some fun with the power dynamic that they would have with the bosses. The shield could possibly be enhanced, so a mission will solely focus on the particular practice. Getting you to get use to the new discovery of his powers. Then again, there would have to be a lot of thought into that idea, since the fighting style and remote inputs would have to have some kind of mechanic that would work like ghost of Tsushima. Holding R1 to change the style of fighting, allowing the player to use the many forms of skill sets that he learns. Also, i would love if there were so many different kind of dialogues with his karmic choices. Some are cool with what he has done, while others, would be horrified or rude. Changing the way they act in a very specific way. It would pretty much force players to accept the many outcomes of the given effects that they decided to choose. What i would love that there was some kind of character with time like abilities. But she would be so unnoticeable that he would soon meet, her, causing events to become paradoxical. Even though he was not the cause after going back in time to not steal it, someone else did, causing those same events to replay again, realizing that he can never prevent the many events replaying, it makes more sense than the evil version of him going back to pay himself to just simply replay events that could have been prevented.
Onto the second, after the first game. We then are introduced to a new mechanic, weapons. I know that he already has an amp, but imagine the electric capabilities to his powers, coming upon gold, when using his electric based powers, realizes that he can reshape and change the textures of gold, using it as a weapon slash tool, needed for mission that it can be used for. It is obvious that i have not played the two games yet and have no full understanding of this character, but i would like if anyone would make some changes to these ideas and offer some better improved ones that can be more realistic and fit into the world.
Forgive me for the long response. I just had so many ideas, could have gone a bit longer, but imma strop here😂
“I know you have this on the second monitor while you grind camos or sleep”
me bundled with my pjs
“Nun uh”
I'm only on the 20 mins. mark and maybe this will be said in the games with Cole but, I found out that shooting metallic things like generators, trash dumpsters, or cars after they've exploded can be hit with the normal bolt shots and then the electricity from that can be absorbed to heal and gain power back. It helped me in the hardest parts of the games.
Infamous (1) is my favorite game of all time. Was really sad and underwhelmed after playing 2 with a new voice actor and none of the antagonists returning (especially my baby Sasha 💔) and the reveal of who the beast was...
3:09:46 welp…
Infamous is what got me to side with PlayStation way back in the day. Second Son was my first ever platinum trophy game and also my absolute favorite game I have ever played (maybe second to Outer Wilds, it’s a close fight). The relationships between characters completely drew me in and was the first game to get me actually emotionally invested and devastated me when Reggie was killed making my evil play through feel very rewarding and vengeful. The depth to Augustine as a villain was incredible especially with her intentions and character being further fleshed out through the First Light dlc as well as the origami side quest stuff in Second Son alluding to the paper powered conduit that she was originally protecting. All of this to say that I loved the video and getting to revisiting some of my favorite video game memories! (I still chuckle at the cheesiness of Festival of Blood)
Totally agree. Second Son is one of my fav games as well (only Returnal has ever felt close to the level of power and traversal in Second Son). Man, every time I play the game and Reggie dies it hits me so hard! Reggie's death really helped elevate Delsin's character as he finally realized he had to grow up and be a hero, but I always wonder if he survived. Hank says he never heard of Augustine killing anyone, so maybe if someone is fully encased in concrete they are kind of frozen. Also, if Reggie happens to also be a Conduit, maybe his body went into some sort of stasis. Anyways, I'm glad you likes Second Son as well. Maybe we will get another InFamous game someday!
video is still a stupid power
Agreed. I love the game but me and my brother always thought it was a bit too much for our suspension of disbelief
I had always knew the inFAMOUS series existed, but I didn’t get into it until Second Son, and it’s still one of my favorites to this day
bro attacked me when he said this vid was on my second monitor. Doesn't make it any less fun tho. Keep up bro, lots of love and hope u prosper
Thank you for making sure the volume was good.
So many people have low quality audio or crappy mics.
This man’s intro was literally my introduction to infamous as a kid, the whole psn down to it being an electro game
Yo, straight up felt called out at the beggining of the video. Didn´t know so many people watched your videos while grinding. Amazing content as always!
The fact that you called me out on putting your video to sleep had me on the floor lol you earned my subscription and like
34:55 oh man rail hopping still looks just as satisfying as it did years ago!
Dude, I absolutely love this style of content sharing your thoughts and enthusiasm is something that you are good at, watching this makes me want to make my video as I share a very big passion for the infamous series, but I'm still very awkward so I struggle to do it... But I don't think I could have made this any better than you did, because it comes from a place of genuine excitement and love for this series I'm sure this was very fun to make... Good Job!
I had completely forgotten this game existed until I 5 minutes into the video and finally recognized the game. I used to love this game so much when I was a kid 🥹 so thank you for bringing back so many memories I had completely forgotten they even existed.
How to make Infamous 3.
1. Delsin is the main character.
2. Instead of having his powers work the way they did in second son, have it work like abilities rather then weapons to be switched from, And for goodness sake make the guy have some fun with his powers, let him combine it and make some weird shit out of it, concrete with smoke makes lava rocks or neon with video makes neon shields or something. Go bananas with the mixture.
3. Take out the choice system, either take it out or don't make it a "are you an asshole?" or "are you a saint?" bull.
AND then 4. Profit???
Amazing content my guy! You’ll get more subs soon enough! You have a naturally strong speaking voice. Keep it up and never stop pushing your dreams!
Clicked this vid on accident but the genuine intro including editing audio for sleepers earned a sub from me for sure
You're the real MVP for how you mix the audio.
Thank you. I do have this on before I fall asleep so I appreciate you considering the sound levels.
ive never played a single infamous game, yet here i am listening to this video as i grind away in monster hunter gu. good stuff!
This was an amazing watch. Brings me back to when I sat alongside my father watching him play. Thank you
**Reads title**
The 1st two are timeless. Festival of Blood, was fun.
SecondSon, was, eh…got bored of it by the time I started First Light. Didn’t bother finishing it
I actually sat and watched on my phone while I have a movie I've already seen in the background! Love your videos auqa
another nap another long retrospective of a game I’ve never played ✨
The one thing that annoys me is they could have easily brought Cole back since the ending of the second game shows lighting striking they could easily have said he was revived by the lighting striking the boat and him and zeke going into hiding when the dup started taking conduits then Delson going after the dup catching coles eye and getting him to come out of hiding
@shinburninggodzilla2261 that doesn't fit delson evil Karma in second son makes literally no sense because delson does not come off as a character who enjoys killing just cause he's just a kid who wants to save his tribe
I always wanted a version of Kessler that came back from another timeline (as long as he traveled back before Cole got his powers, all Kesslers would arrive in the same timeline). Maybe he was off in Australia or laying low to see what would happen with the other Kessler, and then he helped Augustine make the DUP. (We never find out who is talking to her in her earpiece. I always imagine it was some version of Cole/Kessler).
I love the reggie/delsin dynamic in infamous second son partly because their voice actors (travis willingham and troy baker respectively) are like real life best friends
I love compilation videos of a series. They make for fun viewing.
Legit my first video from you. And you magically knew what I was doing. That deserves a sub