Meddle: The "Lost" Album That Defined The Pink Floyd Sound | Classic Album Under Review | Amplified
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
- Wedged between the Syd Barrett years and post-Dark Side Of The Moon megastardom, Meddle is often considered the ‘lost’ Pink Floyd album, ignored and underrated. As is reiterated throughout, this hour-long feature takes it upon itself to set the record straight.
00:00 Intro
01:56 Pink Floyd origins and psychedelia
07:12 The Syd Barret years
11:25 Syd Barret’s downfall
11:50 David Gilmour joins the band
14:19 Roger Waters takes the wheel
15:05 A Saucerful Of Secrets
17:31 Progressive Rock Era
22:08 Ummagumma
26:23 Atom Heart Mother
30:35 Meddle beginnings and experimentation
33:13 One Of These Days
38:22 A Pillow Of Winds
41:49 Fearless
45:16 San Tropez
46:56 Seamus
49:06 Echoes
55:32 Album Art
58:56 Meddle’s influence in modern bands
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Since when has Meddle been "lost"? Overshadowed by DSOTM, perhaps, but never lost. It's a pivotal Pink Floyd album, and it contains Echoes - quite possibly the greatest piece of music of the last 60 years. Lost? I don't think so!
Agreed. But I think 'Meddle' is the one album that very casual Pink Floyd fans (I'm thinking the ones who only own DSOTM and the Wall) should definitely check out. It's the link between their earlier, more esoteric and experimental sound and the more commercial yet still progressive music they made in the Seventies. I think people who only know things like "Comfortably Numb" or "Money" from classic rock radio stations, might be a bit a reluctant to sit through the masterpiece that is "Echoes" simply because of its length. This video is for them, not for people like you and me. Cheers.
It's not lost , it's in my record collection next to atom heart mother !
Total concur. Echoes Pompeii especially elite licks.
Согласен полностью. Просто обратная сторона слишком заезжена и по своему попсова. Но мэддл… настоящий АРТ РОК
I did lose my lp copy somewhere in my many moves in the 70's-80's. But that cd is permanently in my collection now.
I would say "Obscured by Clouds" is the lost PF album. It never gets the recognition it deserves, and it's pretty damn good.
AND it is the true link to the dark side of the moon (chronologically at least) and there's no mentioning of it in this documentary, which is really a shame..
And it was excluded from opening graphic of this video.
It is, but it also seems a bit more inconsequential, with no true masterpieces on it. So was it a minor step back before DSOTM? Maybe because it was a soundtrack rather than a stand-alone studio album. Interesting that they completely neglect mentioning it (making it therefore the real "forgotten" album), after having mentioned More and Zabriskie Point.
"Childhood's End" on "Obscured" is so freaking good - a glaring omission in an otherwise good documentary.
Two of Pink Floyd's best songs are on obscured by clouds (wot's uh the deal and the gold it's in the. Free four and childhood's end are great too). I would argue that it's a better album than meddle but even if it weren't, it's simply ridiculous to act amazed by the growth between meddle and dark side since they weren't sequential albums. Obscured fits squarely in between them compositionally as well as chronologically.
Meddle is triple platinum. I'd like to make an album that gets "lost" like that.
For me "Meddle" never been underrated or ignored. It was the first Floyd album I really got into. Masterpeice in my humble opinion. Actually I like their earlier stuff more..
Animals is heavily ignored.
Yeah scaucerful of secrets, atom heart mother, and meddle are in my top 5 Floyd albums
@@hedgehogshadow982 That's for damned sure!
I have to agree. Among my high school mates, Meddle was probably the second most commonly owned Floyd disc, and DSotM only edged it out because of commercial fame. It isnt talked about, or played on air as much as the "big three" (Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here and The Wall), but that is probably because it doesnt lend itself to cutting up into 5 minute bits. I personally rank it third among my favourites, edging out Syd's Madcap Laughs in fourth, and just behind WYWH and DSotM.
Do you like Piper at the Gates of Dawn more than their classic 70's albums?
Not sure why anyone would say that Meddle is "Lost" as I bought it way back in the '70s and still play it now; I even went to see the Pompeii film at my local cinema; don't believe that I'll ever get bored of it.
you check out the 800 x slower,,,,but no way is it a lost album,,if your a fan
@@jestermindcrime1773 Interesting space vibe; may take up mind altering drugs in my retirement! What have I got to lose?
Echoes is one fine piece of music and was played on every tour even David's solo shows he includes it as it's such a powerful tune live!
Couldn't agree more! I was a bit young at the time, but I have an older brother who played his Pink Floyd records all over the house. It certainly has determined my taste of music, which I don't regret :). Meddle is among one of my favourites. I think I play the Pompeii film more often than any other work of them.
My eldest son also knows it very well ! So the legend continues...
Agreed...definitely not lost! I've been playing this album for the past 20 years.
Meddle is a superb album and has never really been lost, btw the Pompeii version of Echos is incredible.
NASA should press that into gold vinyl and send it off into space. One of the greatest ever pieces of music. Ever.
Yes, the Pompeii version has a huge rhythm section sound.
@@vaseofflowers4619 I can't argue with that :)
I remember as a teen listening to 'Echoes' with headphones in the dark and it really freaked me out! Especially the middle 'spooky' part.
Same thing happened to me, except it was, "One of These Days", and I was on a shroom bender. When he said, "One of these days, I'm going to cut you into little pieces", I just about pooped my pants. Meddle is probably my 2nd fav PF album, behind Animals.
That ‘spooky’ part will scare any specters, spooks or spirits right out of your house. I’ve seen it.
A master pice...
They never made a bad song Wierd
They never made a bad song
Weird or rock maby my ì I'm 7
Meddle was never lost, us Pink Floyd fans always loved it.
Yep
“Fearless” is one of my all time favorite songs. That unusual version of open G tuning, the soccer chant, the wistful lyric. It’s a lovely, gentle anthem.
Oddly, it never struck me as open tuning, and I always played it straight. It's not hard.
@@Ndlanding it is an easy song to play in standard, but when I discovered Syd’s tuning, which is GGDGBB, it opened up the ascending riff. It’s quite imaginative and yet elegantly simple.
@@christianzafiroglu6705 Yeah, I suppose more strings will ring out (if that's what you want).
Years ago, when I was attempting to learn this song, I kept fooling around with it until I came up on the idea of an open tuning… I don’t remember what that is now, but I do remember that it actually worked
@@BaconTomatoCheese Syd seems to have used GGDGBB. It’s a lovely tuning I used for “original” melodies of mine.
Meddle has always been a classic
Echoes is by far the band's best single composition.
Live at Pompeii is where it's at.
Actually, very interesting version, maybe the best interaction Wright:Gilmour, is "Echoes" Live in Gdansk (Poland).
But for the best single composition i plead in favour of "Shine on...". And not only Part 1-5, but the whole composition with the Part 9 as Rick's "Special One"
For me, it’s Comfortably Numb.
@@rjwh67220 I prefer Echoes but the thing is there really is no argument. So much of their music is fantastic. I love Comfortably Numb as well.
@@memowilliam9889 let the man enjoy his songs
As many below have protested, Meddle was never lost. What a strange click-bait. A wonderful album with a wide range of songs and styles. Echoes is surely one the Floyd's greatest compositions, describing the beginnings of life at the depths of the oceans, finally to emerge into the sunlight. This song occupies the whole flip side of the album. If you do not already own this album, buy it. You will not be disappointed.
I usually get a daily dose of Echoes.
Ït was in say lost in the shadow of "dark side.."
@@cykelpump2 - Agreed in hindsight... But not as an appropriate title to this upload where the title is the main desriptor for the 'show' and its material content.
Well put. Yes, evolution is the undercurrent running through 'Echoes'.
Many of us bought Meddle back in 1971...It wasn't lost , never has been lost..in my opinion never will be...
I still have the Meddle LP that I bought in 1971. It's not lost, it's right in there with the rest of my vinyl.
I agree totally. My friends and I grew up with PF and had more than a year time to listen to the last record and get to know it very intense. Every record broadened our mind and experiences of listening.
I find these talking heads to be pretty clueless, so One of These Days... Meddle was VERY popular, but an underground thing, so if your whole reality was Top40, as these guys, well, perhaps it WAS "lost" lol. We felt they had sold out with DSOTM, and that the music like Meddle and its predecessors (or possible antecedents) was over for good. So, grieving. And it was overplayed on FM radio. Although, hindsight says that they had to go somewhere, and kudos to them for doing it much, much sooner than most prog bands did. I since have appreciated DSOTM, once radio laid off a bit (only took 2 decades). It's genius, but they had been ramping up to it for years and I now see a logical progression from Meddle to it.
I saw them many times, and in 1972 (2nd row, in front of Gilmour). Not much to compare to live Echoes! DSOTM wasn't released yet, but they were playing it, and it was more impressive live. But the album was less so, and I still reached for Meddle or earlier. Every pre-DSOTM album has something extraordinary, often the whole album. Meddle is great from start to finish and Seamus is just welcome comic relief. I got the joke...guess these guys didn't.
Just remember that Obscured by Clouds technically precedes Dark Side of the Moon. Even though it was a soundtrack, it's still an important look leading up to their success.
Childhoods End sounds a lot like Time
Yeah and IMO mudmen is thematically simular to great gig in the sky
Free Four!
Hearing "Obscured" was such an unexpected treat I was a little pissed off that it was so short. almost as if they'd run out of gas when I wanted more. I wondered if they just had written nothing more. Everything on it was so full I thought it should be longer. I don't.know shit about the movie never having seen it so I thought it must have been only the parts of the movie where songs came in. relevant to the movie.
I still have never heard the movie discussed.
I agree it was a critical step in their evolution, but in a somewhat negative way. Dont get me wrong, I really do enjoy Obscured by Clouds but it marks a crossroads in their songwriting that would abandon a lot of the elements that existed in ObC. For one thing, Roger Waters (and the others too) gave up on writing music for the "commercial market." Free Four and Wots uh.. the Deal are possibly the two most commercial-radio-friendly cuts the Floyd ever produced, yet they got virtually no airplay, even after DSotM became a big hit. Im pretty sure that is a central reason why they stopped trying to make songs that would fit a single, and focused on "symphonic" music (in the sense of a 20-minute stream of music composed of 3-5 "movements") on almost all of the albums up until the split with Roger.
Meddle may be my favorite PF album. My college roommate turned me on to Ummagumma in 1971 and I was an instant Floydian. When Meddle came out I would put headphones on and go to sleep to Echos. I didn't find the middle part scary at all to the contrary, I found it surreal and relaxing and it took my mind on a journey of wonder and exploration. Now at 70 one method I use to get to sleep is imagining myself as guitarist and vocalist in a band and we're on stage doing DSOTM...I'm usually asleep before the plane crashes. Once, way back when, I was doing mushrooms and I picked up my acoustic guitar and started playing along with DSOTM. It's always amazed me how they made such intricate music using just standard chords. That was the genius of David Gilmour. 🍄😎🖖
In early 1977 - it was my first year in secondary school - during one particular music class the teacher played One of the Days and showed us how the track was structured. I was flabbergasted, had never heard anything like it and have loved One of these Days ever since.
Same here, Carmellyceum Oldenzaal, opened my eyes.
"Fearlessly the idiot faced the crowd.... smiling". This album has little gems all over it but Fearless exemplifies their sound
I love "Fearless", i love how David Gilmour sing it.
Yes
Meddle is a classic to most serious Pink Floyd fans and one major reason is the Live at Pompeii film and specifically its “Echoes” performance.
In the 70's, "Live at Pompeii" wasn't all that accessable to those of us who didn't live near theaters that did midnight showings. Then when it was first available on VHS, it was expensive. It wasn't until DVDs got cheaper that the average Pink Floyd fan could actually watch it. Meddle was already a classic among Floyd fans by then.
@@AFloridaSon Sorry for the confusion, but I meant that Meddle’s stature was enhanced by Live at Pompeii after it became accessible. I’m 45 and got into Pink Floyd in high school (early-mid Nineties), so when I fortunate enough to own it on VHS, I became a lot more interested in Meddle (it’s not typically the entry point album). It’s a monumental performance and I was speaking from a personal perspective. I’m not trying to speak for all Floyd fans, especially those that were around when the albums were contemporary, but I do believe that for most Floyd fans nowadays, in the 21st Century, Pompeii is synonymous with Meddle and vice versa. That’s all I was saying. Sorry you weren’t able to see the film until near 30 years after its initial release.
PS- Animals is my favorite Floyd album.
Echoes was my gateway and the first I’d heard of Pink Floyd. I was completely blown away with it. I’d never heard anything like it before.
Meddle was my favorite Floyd album growing up. I fondly remember buying this and Atom Heart Mother
together on vinyl at 12 years old and being transformed to another dimension by the suites on both releases. These two albums along with Wish You Here and Animals are timeless classics. Meddle live on Live at Pompeii is even better. I still love these releases and the entire progressive rock genre.
I never thought of Meddle being underrated. Today anybody who knows anything about music considers Meddle a classic. I am so old that I bought the album when it was new and loved it.
Gotta love that face of David Gilmour and of course his immense talent on the guitar.
For me Echoes is a masterpiece. The culmination of all their musical skills combined in the ultimate show of their collective talents.
I saw Floyd for their Division Bell tour. One Of These Days (live) was absolutely jaw dropping.
I loved Meddle, the musicianship between Richard Wright then, "echoed" back by brilliant guitar of David Gilmour.
I thought that is what made Echoes,. The first verse is sung by Wright, which lyrics are about his favorite pass time getaway of Sailing, on and under the sea, reference to coral caves. Then
David Gilmour sings, and plays his guitar. There is a small piece after that reminds me of a piping of bagpipes ,I don't know what they used to achieve that.
It was then set with some violins, symphony parts, subtle, but effective. I loved the poetic lyrics by Gilmour" on a million bright ambassadors of morning". Beautiful, in all.
Wish Floyd would release a clean, complete, and legal release of the performance at "Live at Pompei".........the version of Echoes at that performance is incredible.
Isn't the complete Pompei concert in a Compilation on spotify?
This album is now 50 years old! Yet, so contemporary and advanced!
In 1978 at the age of 13 I had three albums, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Obscured by Clouds and Meddle. Meddle is probably the most played album I've ever had. Never tire of this classic.
My Mom is a Boomer who grew up hating counter culture. When I was a kid one day she walked in while I was rocking out to One of These Days, and she was surprised by how good it was. ❤
Meddle is their sixth album, not their fifth (it could even be considered their seventh if you count Relics...after all, there was one previously unreleased song on it). They left out More & Obscured By Clouds. Also, Meddle is not a "lost" album; it's been steadily in print since 1971. A "lost" album is an album that was either never released, or has been out-of-print for a long time. Also, it wasn't "wedged between" the Syd Barrett years & Dark Side Of The Moon; the Syd Barrett years had been over since 1968. Ignored & underrated? It's my most listened-to Floyd album.
One of the best music docos I've seen. Brilliantly put together with great contributions from the interviewees. I've always been ambivalent about "The Floyd" but this has encouraged me to listen more closely to those early post Barrett albums.
"Lost" my arse. It's a widely regarded classic.
Yes. Perhaps it would be better put as "largely unknown to or forgotten by the general public."
But it's really not widely regarded. It's a masterpiece every bit as good as Dark Side or the Wall, but outside of Pink Floyd fan circles, most people have probably never heard of it. That's why it's considered "Lost", with the quotation marks, because it's certainly not lost at all among fans of the band, but the average listener is seriously missing out.
I agree, 10 cricket commentators trying to sound knowledgeable.
@@jeremey9818 I'd argue that outside of fan circles, the average listener is unfamiliar with the albums of most bands unless they spawned 3-5 top 10 singles.
Heckuva lot better than Final Cut.
Meddle is one of my favorite Pink Floyd albums. Listen to it on a regular basis.
actually, the album that came after Meddle was Obscured By Clouds, aka, music from the movie, La Vallé (The Valley) not Dark Side as is suggested in the film. ObByClo ends with the song Mudmen, which i always viewed as having elements of what would become Shine On You Crazy Diamond, Part I.
the film is correct, though, that Dark Side pretty-much over-shadowed all of The Folyd's previous work.
Obscured by Clouds ends with Absolutely Curtains, not Mudmen
Thank you for the upload!!! This is brilliant.
I heard echoes on a compilation album or something, because I know the song but never had the record.. killer song, thanks so much for the video,I LOVE this kind of content. Just recently found your channel, thanks and please keep the awesome back stories coming
Really Obscure Pink Floyd Albums: (Soundtracks)
1. The Committee
2. Zabriskie Point
3. More
4. Obscured By Clouds
I loved Echoes, I feel it was a peak moment, especially for Rick. It was so cool to hear Rick and Dave singing in unison! His keyboards never sounded better, as well!
I personally like fearless over any other song on this album… I think that was the first song Pink Floyd truly came into their own and really defined the sound and every style they have used and forward was from that song, not to mention it was so beautiful
Atom Heart mother is one of Pink Floyd's best pieces it's a work of art
Atom heart mother was at the public library when it came out. I always wondered who chose that in an old fashioned library but i jumped on that right away!!
I love trying to re-create The Floyd sounds on my synths. especially when I can get them just "Wright" 😚😚. Ride the waves Rick, we miss ya🎶🎶
One of my early Floyd discoveries was this album. The epic "Echos" was just a sonic journey of delight, but the flip side songs like "Seamus", "One of these Days" and "San Tropez" are as delightful as anything from later albums, if not as groundbreaking. After the earlier efforts like Ummagumma and Atom Heart Mother, which always struck me as experimental, Meddle showed how the band had come of age musically and commercially. It's definitely up there with Dark Side, Wish You Were Here, Animals and The Wall in my pantheon of Pink Floyd favorites.
One of the greatest records of all records ever made.
The first time I watched Echoes on a VHS tape of Live in Pompeii as a teenager, it was a life-changing moment. It's why I love music so much. Anything from Metallica to Simon & Garfunkel to Mozart. Without Pink Floyd, music in general could've been just any background music... i.e. I could care less who wrote it, who played it, or who sang it. Pink Floyd changed all that!
I'm the same way. My sister made me sit down and listen to Dark Side. Changed my life. I love all music.
@@michael7324 My sister took me and my brother to the local theater to see "Live at Pompeii" in 1973. I was five and all I can remember was being both terrified and fascinated at the same time. It was SO loud and so kinda 'out there.' The music I knew up until then was the Beach Boys and Sam Cooke and girl groups from the early Sixties my dad had turned me on to. Not that there is anything wrong with any of that - in fact I think I'm lucky having been raised in a home where I heard all kinds of music at such a young age, as my mother was an opera & classical music lover and my grandmother played Patsy Cline & Kitty Wells constantly. But Pink Floyd really and truly changed my life.
@@michael7324 Yeah, I remember on April 28th, 1972 my brother and sister and I went to see Pink Floyd in Chicago and they played DSOTM a year before the album came out. We had no idea what it was. We went to the show hoping to hear Echoes, and it was the next to the last song they played. An absolutely fantastic show. Well worth the $5.00 ticket price! :)
@@axelslingerland9920 $5.00 LOL
EXACTLY! - so how the hell was the album 'lost'? The poster of the title doesn't get or understand Floyd or they wouldn't have posted such a moronic title.
Loved it so much I searched for and bought an original pressed album. Pure genius
MEDDLE IS BY FAR A CROWNING ACHIEVEMENT & ONE OF MY FAVORITE ALBUMS, WITH OUT ECHOES, WHICH OF COURSE I ❤ LOVE. FEARLESS IS MY FAVORITE ON THE MASTERPIECE! THANK YOU SYD LOVE YOU!
I saw Pink Floyd just before this album was released and they played One Of These Days and Echoes for our first time hearing. I knew it was gonna be a great album that night.
Meddle isn't lost to me. It has three of my favorite Floyd compositions on it.
What is Fearless, echoes and one of these days?
Dark Side was the reason Meddle became overshadowed, not because it was musically better, but because its success and popularity gathered a whole army of new fans who had never been interested in the band beforehand. More than once I have encountered younger fans who believed Dark Side to be their ‘early work’ or first album, which never fails to make me smile.
With Dark Side, a lot of fans dismiss the earlier work as far less impressive and important. But the fans who loved the band from its inception, or those who were very interested in finding out how Floyd got to Dark Side, can and might realise that Meddle is that beautiful and unforgettable moment when the boy has turned into a man. A complete man you can be proud of and trust to go forward with complete confidence.
Personally, Echoes is the creative and inspirational pinnacle of their output. Of all their work, nothing else moves me in such a profound way and makes me so glad to be alive. There might be more polished and consistent albums that follow, which benefit from experience and professional focus, but Meddle contains the greatest piece they have ever created. If anything, it just gets more precious and sacred with time.
I saw them in 1972 in Tampa. "Meddle" was their most recent album, but the first set was "Dark Side..." in its entirety. This was a full year before the album would be released. They called it "Eclipse" at the time. It was the first-ever US performance of "Dark Side..." The concert was in a National Guard armory, about the size of a high school gym. Tickets were $4! The second set was "One of These Days," "Careful With That Axe..." and "Echoes" in that order. No encore, but that was OK, as they had delivered two scorching sets and the audience was more than satisfied. An unforgettable night! I feel very fortunate that I got to see them while they were still something of a "cult" band in the US. I think the later albums were good and all, but for me personally, "Meddle" was their zenith.
Watch the Echoes/2001 mashup, it's even more mad than the Wizard of Oz theory.
By the way which ones pink
@@pathunt9237 I think it's the guy on the right. No, wait a minute. It's the guy on the left.
In a lifetime of listening to Pink Floyd, this is my favorite album.
Those interviewed were quite dismissive of UmmaGumma studio tracks, including DG's contribution, but The Narrow Way - in my opinion (I'd better say that!) - was a splendid track that stood firmly and very well on its own two feet.
Well bro I agree it is a good track, but I have to tell you from a musician standpoint (I'm a drummer over 30 years) when you hear early stuff you did you can be very critical!! Old saying with us artists, actors, etc "You are your worst critic, and your family and friends. The rest of the world may find you're fantastic. Dave also said he hated the song "Not Now John on the FC, I think it's a good song. As far as my playing I think I'm terrible with rudiments, I'm self taught, can't read music at all. I think I'm just a average drummer where many have told me I'm really good. I get very angry for a moment when I make mistakes and drop a stick!! lol
off the solo record of ummagumma id say the Narrow way is by far the best track , waters Granchester meadows is also a good one, the rest of the stuff is just filler imo. the live record of ummagumma is really great .
Agreed! Best of the solo tracks! And they kept it for The Man and the Journey Tours! And unlike the other tracks, Dave did play all his parts, including the drums and keyboard parts! The lyrics were the hardest part, Dave never was good at writing lyrics!
i love a pillow of winds, such a soothing song
Dude, Meddle is rather far from "lost" or "underrated" status. It is not Household Objects. If anything, stuff like Ummagumma, More and Obscured by Clouds qualify as lesser known releases, but even then it is not like they are underappreciated or anything.
I think that if any Floyd album were overlooked, it would be Obscured By Clouds. I think that album, more so than Meddle had little snippets of the sound of what would become Dark Side. "Childhood's End" is obviously a dry run for "Time"
Yeah Meddle is probably the best known of the pre-Dark Side albums. Far from being "lost".
Good point.
I just still want to know what the movie is about!
Absolutely obscured by clouds was one of their better but forgotten works. And nothing was played by me more than Uma Guma, atom heart mother, and animals I had even turned around on camping trips when I realized they had not made it into the truck. Lol But Metal was a must while flying my plane listening to it through the headphones while 3000ft up.
🤠🐂🏞️🛩️
I find Nick Mason's quote at the beginning of the video to be quite illuminating and reinforcing . I really tuned in to PF in the late seventies and had to go back to all the earlier records. and even though finding interesting bits amongst the earlier records - maybe, most notable 'interstellar overdrive', 'emily', 'several species of small furry animals gathering together in a cave and grooving to a pict' and 'careful with that axe eugene' - I spiritually latched on to Meddle and kept listening forward.
When they did Atom Heart Mother, it was the first attempt at Meddle, it was a valid attempt, but didn’t quite come together until this album!
Meddle! Meddle was the first album that solidified Pink Floyd! It all came together then! Gilmour’s contributions certainly came out as an evolution to Floyd’s sound! He had progressed greatly as a guitarist at the time!
One of my favorite cuts on this record was always San Tropez… I always throw that at people who think they have Pink Floyd pigeonholed… it hits them from left field as a completely different sound and shows the versatility of the band.
Just listened to it for the first time and didn’t want it to end.
I liked playing the piano solo in San Tropez.
my first girlfriends favorite song from the floyd, back as a teen i never understood why, but now that im older i love that song !
I think the only throw away song, if any, is Seamus. Even then, that dog howls with the song, it's great. It may not be one they ever were going to play live, it's not one we're all going to hug each other and cry over due to emotion, but I love the Pompeii performance of it.
i agree!!!! thats the best song on the album
Many say that Dark Side was their "transition" album, to me it was Meddle. There are a number strains of Meddle in the background of Dark Side.
But according to the poster of this video, Meddle was "lost' - what a moronic title for an album that contains Echoes. The dude is after clicks and doesn't understand Floyd or their fan base. A pure shill.
@@thinkfloyd2594 "One Of These Days" is why it's not a "lost album", Pink Floyd did it on the Division Bell and Momentary Lapse tours, Roger's done it on his solo tours. Nick's been doing it on his Saucerful tours, it's on most of their compilations.
I never forgot this album ever since it came out. Echos is my runner up song to Shine On You Crazy Diamond. Both are masterpieces and it shows how excellent the musicianship of this band really is!
Gilmour is underrating his work on Ummagumma. "The Narrow Way" Part 3 pointed the way forward for the group, nailing the basic sound that would be heard later in "Echoes."
I agree completely, One of these Days and Echoes are magnificent, and that rarest of beasts, even better live...
I have a German bootleg on vinyl from this tour. One of 500 made its a two album set. In the middle of astronomi dominae you can hear waters say don't stop keep going their almost there , talking about the crowd. The song takes up an entire side and he knew what he was talking about it's left me unable to move at certain moment of my life.
So true! Although I have never listened to them live, but these two tracks are among my favorites.
"Seamus" may be a bit of a joke, but maybe that's why Tom Stoppard used it in "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead". He used the "Echoes" ping too.
they really skipped over Obscured by Clouds and More in the intro 😔
I hear this album since 38 years at least 2 or 3 times in a month. never got tired of it. i alwyas discover new things. it def go down in my top 20 greatest albums of all times list. man, i love this band sooooo much since my father introduce them to me. RIP DAD!
Meddle is well-known. Obscured By Clouds is probably the most 'lost' Floyd album. It's arguably their most average, tho' it ends with the incredible Absolutely Curtains.
We had Meddle and Dark Side recorded on the same tape and played them as if it were one very nice long album. It has never been lost in my house.
Me and a dozen friends went to see Live at Pompeii in a movie theater during it's original release.
Echos!!!
Nicely done, learned some anecdotes about the band. Meddle is one of there best albums.
Talk about a “Lost Album” in their display of all the albums they left out
“obscured by clouds”
Meddle is a great album, but I wouldn't call it a "Lost" Pink Floyd album; I'd consider their next album "Obscured by Clouds" to be the "lost album" being almost a good; in fact in some ways even better.
OBC is wonderful, featuring "One, two, free, four".
@@mikeziegler4785 My favourites from that album are written by Richard Wright; who composed the music of Burning Bridges, Mudmen and Stay. Wright also wrote the music to the cadence to Breathe, which has six chords, (when the front only has two chords "composed by Gilmour" but are actually a chord progression cliche). Wright also wrote the the middle eight of Time, (the part of the song Wright actually sang; by making M7 chords of what Roger Waters had initially come up with during that section) He also composed the cadence of the reprise of Breathe as well as the cadence of Any colour you like and ALL the music of the best song Pink Floyd ever released: Us and Them.
@@Paolo8772 Plus Richard Wright had a very pleasing voice. It's too bad it wasn't used after DSOTM.
@@mikeziegler4785 Except his solo albums and also "Wearing the Inside Out" from Pink Floyd's "Devision Bell" album from 1994. But yes, his voice was pleasing.
'More' as well...although not as good as OBC
Atom Heart Mother is a great song. I particularly love its various incarnations that you can find on recordings of their shows from that period.
Meddle was never considered to be a "Lost" album to me. I can still remember buying my first copy of it on vinyl back in the late 1970s, splitting open the shrink wrap on it, and absolutely loving the album. For me, the true "Lost" Pink Floyd album was "Obscured By Clouds". Yeah. I know. There are no heavy concepts or big mind trips on "Clouds", but it does show a band that's still working their collective asses off to get a good sound on record, and get even tighter sounding playing together as a band. The songs on "Clouds" are nicely structured, shorter, rock and roll songs that are well recorded and produced. If you've never listened to "Obscured By Clouds", check it out!
Why would anyone say this album is lost. I have the album, the CD and I have it digitally stored on my phone. And as ahuge early Floyd fan I think Atom Heart Mother (suite) is a fantastic piece of music that I still listen to.
Guess they forgot about Obscured By Clouds, 1972.
I remember sometime back in 1985 watching one of the numerous imported Chinese karate movies of the day that were poorly dubbed into English that was featured on "Kung Fu Theatre", which was locally broadcast every Sunday morning from 10AM -12 noon by a Phoenix AZ TV station. The movie was very typical of most of those early karate movies, where a dude survives his ass kicking and then slowly trains himself to master a certain style of Chinese kung fu and then finally take revenge on his attackers. What wasn't typical was that the ending parts (the last 5 or 6 minutes) of Pink Floyd's song "Echoes" from their album Meddle was used as the background music playing as the dude was training himself to finally gain the knowledge needed to beat his attackers. It seemed like Echoes was actually a part of the original Chinese movie version instead of having been added after the fact along with the poorly dubbed English on to the movie. I mean, it was really cool and amazing how perfectly Echoes fit in with the training scenes of the movie. I think parts of Echoes was also used again during the final scene when the dude gets his revenge on his attacker. In truth, I can't remember the name of this old Chinese Kung Fu movie import, or even know if Pink Floyd was ever credited at the end of the movie or paid any royalties for the use of Echoes in the making of the film. Based on my 9+ years of living in Asia, copyright infringement violations and/or permissions are rarely enforced/obtained, so I kind of doubt Pink Floyd was ever contacted or are even aware that their song Echoes was used in an old Kung Fu movie. But in conclusion, this example shows the worldwide impact that the epic song Echoes has had everywhere on the planet and is especially rare for being used in one of the older, traditional Chinese Kung Fu movies produced before 1986. If anyone knows the name of this classic Chinese kung fu movie, please reply back to this post. Thank you.
Terrific video. Appreciated. The "Doppler" (Leslie Speaker sound) had, or so I have read, been developed prior at Abbey Road. John Lennon had wanted the effect on a vocal he was recording and had suggested that he be hung upside down and spun around. An Engineer succeeded in convincing them that he could get the effect without having to go to such extremes. He ingeniously for the time, having re-wired it, was able to put the vocal through the Leslie Speaker and the effect was recorded and used. Furthermore, I am now of the opinion that the track Echoes, does include a "psychedelic" tribute to Syd Barrett with the "whale noises" etc? But that's just my opinion.
The startling omission of Obscured By Clouds is a blemish on this otherwise fairly cohesive exploration of this transitional Floyd work.
Obscured by Clouds is certainly more "Lost" than any other Floyd album.
Meddle is by far my favourite Floyd album. All the albums that preceded it were a musical evolution to this point. After losing Syd Barrett as their primary musical creator they were a band in search of an identity, drifting away from their psychedelic roots but retaining that spirit of experimentation. Meddle was that transitional album that truly defined the Pink Floyd sound. I cannot believe that this is a "forgotten" album. Perhaps it is not as popular as the albums of their later years, little overshadowed, but among those true fans it is still highly regarded. When I first heard Echoes it blew my mind. I still think it is the best thing they have ever recorded. I envy anyone who had the opportunity to see this performed live. But the album has one track that I don't care much for, namely Seamus. It feels out of place with the rest of the songs. But it could have been worse and it could have been Mademoiselle Nobs as heard in the Pink Floyd Pompeii film. As I grow older I find a greater fondness for the albums in this period. Flawed and as rough round the edges as they are they also contain some of their most beautiful songs before Roger Waters allowed his neurotic hangups to turn the band into his personal psychiatrist's couch. Technically they would release Obscured by Clouds, the soundtrack for the film The Valley, before releasing Dark Side of the Moon and setting down their course of doom and doom.
Great piece of work
I think he means overlooked by the word lost. And this album was a great bridge between the earlier work and their later work and for that reason is probably some of their best music.
I wish people wouldn't diss Ummagumma. For many of us it's still one of the most avant garde, experimental albums ever. OK, so the production could have been better, but it still blows me away from start to finish.
I still have my original Meddle album and later bought a CD copy. I still have Ummagumma as well.
I don’t know why it would be called a lost album. The early Floyd albums are some of their best music.
So many people commenting that it's not a lost album apparently missed the point. It's "lost" (see the quotation marks?) in the sense that it's completely overshadowed by the albums that came after it....
Meddle should've really been One of these days, A pillow of winds, Embryo, and Echoes! That would've been a masterpiece!
Malcom Dome at the beginning, died just a few days ago, R.I.P. I also have to say that Meddle is by far my favourite Pink Floyd album, actually my favourite album ever by anyone and Echoes is my all time favourite song by anyone ever even though for me Pink Floyd are not the best band ever and Meddle is nowhere near the best album ever (that for me goes to Dak Side of the Moon), Meddle is just my personal favourite album and for me is probably the most significannt album that Pink Floyd ever recorded as it is "THE" *Bridge* between the old Floyd sound and the sound to come on future albums.
My second favourite Pink Floyd album (even though not my second favourite album overall) is Obscured by Clouds as that continues where Meddle left off and shows a bit more of what was to come whilst still holding on to a tiny bit of what had already come to pass on Meddle, the two albums together are the very best period of the band imho, Meddle has never been lost!
It's definitely not lost something I listen to every day along with all of the other tracks that are filled with great glorifying sounds The Endless River NEEDS MORE LOVE ITS AMAZING.
Saw them on the first stop of the Meddle tour at Winterland in San Francisco. They had huge black lights on the ceiling, and passed out hundreds of dayglow frisbees at the door. And I remember it was kinda smokey inside. BTW, I think the Echoes Remastered, some 23 mins long is my favorite. I still listen to it several times a week. Best band ever in my opinion.
I saw one of the first live performances of MEDDLE when they warmed it up for its “premiere’ on BBC RADIO ONE. In fact I introduced the band. It was groundbreaking. Echoes was in the repertoire for a long time and when Rick died not played again . That last performance at Gdańsk is heart breaking. Interesting doc though - even though I don’t think it’s that obscure - really MORE or OBSCURED BY CLOUDS or their contributions to ZABRISKIE POINT are less known. The UMMAGUMMA live sides are still extraordinary.
If there's a "lost" PF album it's not _Meddle_ it's _Obscured By Clouds._
I think 'remember a day' was as relevant as 'set the controls,,,, from the second album it still stands up today as a great track
Well said! One of the major PF songs. And transitional.
I'd say those 2 songs are actually the only songs on ASOS that aren't standouts
Right before Dark Side Of The Moon is Live at Pompeii, which in my opinion contains upgraded versions of earlier songs like A Saucerful Of Secrets, One Of These Days and especially Echoes.
The Pompeii version of Echoes is in my Top 10 favorite songs of all time. Which makes Live at Pompeii my favorite Pink Floyd album. It is the last Floyd record before the more “technological” era of their sound, which is of course their strongest era in terms of songwriting and it yielded so many classic songs as parts of very strong concept albums. But Meddle and Pompeii still had that organic quality of four instruments ( and a Gong 😂 )
38:15 - Wait a minute....I just read recently (to somewhat of my surprise) that It's actually Nick Mason who sings the main verses of 'Corporal Clegg' which was recorded and released on PF's 1968 sophomore effort, 'A Saucerful of Secrets' - a full 3 years prior to the release of 'Meddle'. Or am I mistaken? 39:50 = Don't care what anyone says, 'A Pillow Of Winds' is a gorgeous anthem of stoned out, all night Hashish reverie dream Folk.45:30 - dido in regards to 'San Tropez', I love that song.
My absolute favorite album, and that's saying a lot as I don't think there's a Pink Floyd album I don't like. Sure, The Wall was a defining moment for me personally as it came out when I was in middle school (my dad was in the military and died when I was very young so you can only imagine how I identified with Pink), but Meddle was mine. I felt like I was the only one who loved it as much as I do. To this day Fearless almost makes me cry.
Fearless is total genius. my favorite floyd song.
Meddle was “my record”. My brothers kind of ignored it and I played the hell out of it. Especially after ingesting some things that altered my reality. I. STILL listen to Meddle at least once a month.
What a great video that puts this Pink Floyd gem of an album into perspective by some knowledge lads that know their Floyd. I completely agree that Echoes is where the Pink Floyd sound signature that we all know and love originates from. Though many novice PF fans may not be aware of this album...any true PF aficionado is well versed in the importance of this album in the Pink Floyd catalog of music.
It's their transition from good to super.
Despite it's transitional nature Meddle achieves a perfect balance of lightness and darkness, like a summer day beset by occasionally darkening clouds. Love it. All of it.
Hardly obscure, it’s my favorite Pink Floyd. Got lp used in like ‘78 plenty of high times with it.
The (more) obscure one is the one with "Obscured" in the title - its not even in the intro album gallery of this vid
My first introduction to Pink Floyd was a C90 tape made by a friend when I was about 15 (in the late 1970s) with Meddle on one side and Obscured by Clouds on the other. Discovering those albums was like finding a bag of sovereigns at the bottom of the garden and knowing there were more buried nearby.
'DSOTM' was the first time I'd ever heard of them. I was stationed with the Marines over in Hawaii in 1975, when someone walked into our barracks & put the album on. Surrounded with speakers, 5 or 6 of us passed the joints around. 0f course by now, I've got ALL of their albums...& gotten to see them several times in concert. 'Animals' is possibly my favorite PF album....but I go back & forth between them every every few years. Some of their earliest stuff though.....I wonder how they ever got a record contract. LOL
Agreed Meddle is not a lost album, but it is perhaps somewhat underappreciated. And while Echoes deservedly steals the show, the flip side of the album had some gems too. My dogs love to sing along with Seamus and San Tropez might be the closest thing Floyd ever did to a normal pop tune, but it still has the slightly bent sound that they were famous for. Never tire of hearing it.