Inside a stylish LED street light from eBay.
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- Опубліковано 24 бер 2017
- I like the LED street lights being sold on eBay. They seem to be evolving fast (I guess it's a huge market) and while the reliability of the early units is an unknown variable, they are generally quite serviceable, although at this cost it's cheaper to just replace a whole light.
This one caught my attention because it is so stylish. I will admit I was surprised at the size though. It's smaller than expected, although fully functional. The lens is glass and seems to be purpose made to give a good road-shaped coverage.
It would be quite interesting to put a coloured LED in this unit. Maybe even one of the nice red/blue mix grow light LEDs.
The listing I bought this one from was:-
www.ebay.com/itm/142210335945
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Seagulls and pelicans will leave "deposits" and completely seal the top of the streetlight with an additional dome.
lol :-D
Not sure that Clive will see many pelicans crossing to the IOM.
why? don't they have pelican crossings in the IOM ?
Eden's Aquaponics it is actually pelican now.
the internet says no to pelicon not seen any signs to say otherwise its still pelican in welsh
The yellow color temperature of sodium lights is a really good thing. Firstly for sleep patterns, blue light is disruptive (probably good for highway, bad near homes). Secondly the redder the light the less it effects your night vision, so blue lights are worse for harming your ability to see when you leave the light. Finally yellow light is better at penetrating rain or fog.
The number one thing that surprises me about the LED street light though is the lack of redundancy.. you could just as easily use 2x 20w units per housing and have even fully removable from below, meaning that failure doesn't result in darkness and servicing is easy. Likewise for higher value applications backup battery is a huge safety boon.. even just 30mins of runtime on reduced output can save lives in disasters.
SOX lamps are one of the most efficient light sources known. A very narrow output near the peak spectral sensitivity of human vision.
bigclivedotcom Fortunately, we still have sodium lights in my area. I love daylight LEDs indoors, but outdoors at night is another story.
4:08 you sounded so disappointed it was a standard led after the mystery build up 😂
You could mount them in your back garden, attach a motion detector, and scare the crap out of the neighbor cats!
But seriously, I'm looking into replacing some ancient Mercury vapor security lights at my Aunt's place in the TX Hill Country with some sort of LED equivalent. I already bought a desiccant dehumidifier for the place since yours seemed to work so well, and so far it's keeping the musty grossness out of the trailer!
love your videos man. I'm here in the US, and honestly, I've learned a ton of extra things about electronics / electricity from your videos that I never would have known without watching your videos. Keep up the awesomeness!
well me personally i do also like the cobra head Led Fixture that literally also has a photocell on it to
Oh, and definitely get yourself a bracket for these lights to go up outside, we need to see them outdoors at night... :D
Dear Clive, your advice on personal hygiene is very much appreciated.
Clive, thanks for your humour and continued quest to entertain and enlighten us. I would be interested if you could give us a glimpse of your workshop and test equipment you use, eg. power supply etc. I look forward to your broad spectrum of items you feature.
I do believe it's high time you bought a street from ebay, so you can light it up
well it would make a change from putting the lights out in the street as a result of an electrical experiment
+shurdi3 . . . Funny, your comment makes me think of when Photonicinduction powered up a 20,000 Watt bulb in his garden at night, and houses within the neighborhood were lit up like the sun came up!!!
Clive needs a lot more patreons in order to buy a whole street !
Well not a big street
That's a very nice-looking luminare, Clive!. Looks far better than the more rectangular LED streetlights you reviewed some months back. We've got the (earlier) ones around our outhouses, and they have been surprisingly reliable - despite Aussie weather (40+C summers, with the occasional HEAVY downpour!). Keeping a range of Dx-sourced "spares" just in case! :-)
Dear Clive, the reason why most chinese manufacturers decide to omit the connection of the ground pin to the metal frame is the fact that in most countries electricians decide to wire up the mains such that the ground pin is hooked straight up to the neutral pin of the AC, thus requiring less wire to wire up a building. If in such a system you attempt to physically wire something to ground you cause the RCD's to trip.
Love your videos, best
does anyone else think of war of the worlds when they look at a modern street light ?
Snow Shoes with integrated heater
I've been keeping an eye on these (same seller and all), very neat looking LED streetlights, and for once I'd be happy to see a warm-white LED in them cos the cold-white ones they're using round here are not that great, especially as at night, human eyes see more clearly under light that's more towards the red-end of the visible spectrum, and cold-white LED lights just make it hard to see properly...
These would be perfect for shining down on my pond
I love your gadgets!
Pretty cool lamp!
"...It would look like a fairground at night" I mean, from the glimpses we've seen of the lighting in your garden, I imagine at already does look a bit like a fairground. At least, more so than most residential gardens.
If Google Maps had night view, finding Clive's house would be easy, just look for that warm white glow.
And I was JUST watching your other street light videos last night.
I went back to watch this, because mine just failed after a year of constant outdoor use (on a photocell). Better to watch Clive pull it apart to see what style COB I need to order than climbing a ladder. :-D
You could certainly connect one of those street lights to a motion detector and hang it on the wall in your entrance area, so that it brightens everything up if the neighbor's cat crosses onto your yard.
Because we're less than 30 miles from the Palomar Observatory, all of our street lights are Sodium vapor, or are being switched over. The color spectrum of these lamps is easier for the observatory to filter. Halogen and other lights have a color spectrum that falls within the spectrum of objects the astronomers are trying to study. I imagine LED street lamps can be filtered to output the desired wavelength spectrum.
we've just has these installed round our way, they cast such a shallow depth my security cameras barely show anything now!
Well that is a small cute light. Where I work, we ground the street light mast and some of our servicemen do not like them even being grounded because it makes it have a different potential when they go to service them and they get bit. Grounding of the street light would be up to the standards of the particular utility so it makes sense in that context to include a ground wire but not have it hooked up.
Clive, you have gone and done it again. I am searching ebay for this unit and I'm going to order 4no.
If the driver or the LED fails it will be easy to swap it for a new one.
Great little project. PS If you come across any 42mm wall spigots in your travels please give me a shout. :O)
You should pad the end of the video with 20-30 seconds of nonsense, youtube is putting annotations over the last 20 seconds with suggestions on other videos you made, even if you have annotations turned off.
Apart from that, excellent video.
Против Глобал that explains all...
Agreed on the notifications. Half of the time the new dialog box won't even open. And when it does, I'm just reminded of the shitty design decisions that went into it
LegendLength the answer tread opens a new tab on yt, but that trick with the bar to show where you reached watching the video, is all the money
Против Глобал not only that: video stucks, and image desynchronises from the sound. I will go to Google play to see if they released a patch
Против Глобал the notification problem is on iPhones too, its horrible
Was hoping you would take it into the garden at night to demo the light spread etc. Thinking of buying a couple for our dog training field.
that aluminium guard on top of the Led is for the yellowish contour created by the lens.
i used those led chips in the past there very good quality.
They look interesting, I have no use for them but still feel the urge to buy some... damnit Clive!
Waouh! is so little street light fixture
:o and so cute :)
My local council have decided to start putting up new LED street lights. All good but they are using Cold White LED's what means its quite an eye strain walking between the darker Yellow light and Cold White posts, and I've found it more difficult to see your surrounding as the brighter light makes more of a contrast between lit sections and unlit sections
Hi Big one, thanks for another video!
Would you consider doing some basic water tightness tests whenever you talk about these exterior apparatus?
I mean, for someone who knows nothing about electricity (me), it seems an important test.
Thanks again, cheers!
Thumbs up for mentioning the lightpost :D
not long ago they changed out our old street lamps on the main road with the new white LEDs, its made it super safe as it gives so much light theres barely any dark spots between them. You can see the runners the cyclists, children etc its wonderful.
The locals complained they were to bright and shone into there houses.
AntiSocialMotorist If only someone had invented something that you could cover your windows with, to keep out unwanted light :)
They did invent something. It is called distance from urban areas, or "out in the country".
the problem our way is they are replacing our street lights from the sodium to cold light l.e.d's and then are piercing yet with a small fall off distance compared to the sodium.
also, we had a severe bowt of fog the other night.. where they have replaced the lights it was just wall of blue refracted light and you could barely see. the sodium ones however nearby nearby quadrupled the visibility. so, I foresee a fair few accidents in the future. You'd have thought some testing would have take place or forethought.
Same here. Although the LEDs are blinding to look at directly, they give just a small pool of light underneath leaving the general street area looking very dark. Bring back the sodiums!
WorldofRandometry YOU CAN PAY THE EXTRA MONEY TO CONSTSTANTLY PUT NEW BULBS IN AND RUN THEN ?
WE ALREADY PAID THAT MONEY FOR DECADES.
Or do you think they didn't just simply use taxes to pay for it?
And constantly new bulbs? They last quite some time.....
We're already paying it. The real problem with all of these LEDs is that like most new tech, they only are going to save money for EARLY Adopters. Then EVERYONE will HAVE to convert or you'll just be paying through the ass, as the power company is not going to tolerate a 25-33% reduction in revenue, so as more LED's are installed, power prices will inch up until it's not feasible anymore to pay to run anything BUT a LED. It's not a problem until we MAKE it a problem.
Paul Gascoigne Our council is actually competent and is using warm white LEDs. Imo they are far better than sodium, the only downside being the lesser fog penetration.
My city in the US has little by little been replacing the old street lights with LEDs wherever there's a major resurfacing/reconstruction project on the street below. I don't know what kind of units they are, but they are horrifyingly bright on the eyes when you drive or walk under them (even when you're not even looking directly at them) and yet somehow they don't illuminate the surroundings very well. The lights on my street are metal halide for the most part and I dread the day they get replaced with these LEDs.
I know this comment is four years late, but the metal halide streetlights are still there?
@@thelightingenthusiast Nope, all LED now.
@@Felamine Aww that sucks. I don’t mind warm white LED’s too much, but I wish they converted to LPS instead.
I might buy one of these to make into a portable garage light on a swivel head for illuminating those odd jobs on the car and such.
Or put it on a ten foot pole on the corner of your front bumper, and always have the street lit wherever you drive.
Clive, find an old wooden or metal standard lamp and replace the shade+bulb with that new unit, Add some clive magic dimming and it would be novel :-D
made me think about a giant squid tentacle or war of the worlds thing.
A simple self tapping drill bit of the correct size should fix that cover,that or washers between the screws and cover . I am thinking of installing a street lamp out front of our place,at least for the kids at the bus stop.
When he first flips it @1:10 the screws look ok..ish .. wonder if there are different screw lengths and they got mixed up in there?
One reason the earth lug might not be connected is that they expect the lamp to get it's earth through the post (the surface is painted but the fixing screw should provide continuity), either by the way the post is planted or via a connection in the cabinet at the base. Still odd to provide a crimped earth connection and not use it though.
+BigCliveDotCom One thing curiously missing is a photocell to turn off during the day. In my earlier days I didn't come home until the street lights came on. Now I don't go out until they are on! Either way with this one I'm not coming home (or going out)!
now i want to see big-clive's fairground!
i love these videos
i just wish it had a photo eye built into it clive do you think the cover could be drilled an use an add on photo eye to the lamp?
here we can see Clive offering his body to the purpose of science (touching a metal enclosed mains circuit with no earth connected)
You have to ground metal enclosures here in the USA also. There a few exceptions but the light isn't one of them. We used to depend on the UL label to verify the stuff was tested safe but the cheap imported product manufacturers just forge them. That said a licensed electrician could not install things without the label or knowing the item is unsafe. Just like all other things electricians have been dumbed down as of late. So has the doctor that will treat you for Afib, or heart failure if you get a good shock to the heart. The screws would not be a big deal for a professional electrician because tools are carried to cut screws properly and also a tap tool to tap the holes. Just so long as they are standard 10- 8 and 6/32 type screws. I like the light or better said the fixture. Good quality or branded approved fixtures can be quite expensive. millions of dollars are wrapped up in project lighting at times. One job I did had 6 million dollars in fixtures with over 1 million on the parking lot lights.
LED EVERYTHING!!!
Ti think they don't connect the earth wire, because the lamp is almost always mounted on a steel pole. The connection is made by tightening the lamp's bracket to the pole maybe?
I do wonder why Councils and Highways Maintainance don't use Warm white LEDs rather than Ice/Bright White as people often complain about the latter type of light.
I have a Halogen street light that sits about 3ft below my window, over the other side of the service road (i live off a side road and down a bit from that). I'm glad I'm above it as it's quite bright & it directs a lot of it's light down.
Hmm, seems like a decent quality light. I should buy a load of these and replace all of the low pressure sodium lamps in the area with these.
If there is a way to attach a photocell, that is.
Clive, tell me if this makes sense : If they don't bother to connect the earth wire, maybe it's because they know most people will change the ridiculously short cable for a longer one. And they include the short wire so you can quickly test the light when you get it. But if you decide to keep the short cable and splice it to a long one, the crimp is there for you to screw the earth to the case.
The LED drivers have the three core flex stub supplied pre-potted in with the earth crimp already attached. They've just stuck that driver in with glue and connected the LED.
ah... well, there goes my brilliant theory :D
If the hole is about 44mm, I wish the road authorities who buy these things good luck installing them, because 60mm is often the standard diameter for the ends of the poles
Maybe for the reason of them not grounding the light is because the pole itself that the lamp would be on would be earthed?
@bigclivedotcom: I wonder what the light dispersal pattern is, with the lens removed? I saw on another video you did for the 24-LED streetlight where all those little glass lenses fell out when you took the plastic cover off, and you showed the light dispersal without the lenses.
What is the dispersal for this one without the lens?
Thanks!!
lid screws looked ok at the beginning of the video.
Agreed.
I saw the same. Re-Assembly issue.
Maybe one side is longer than the other, so it had to be put in certain way.
Uh-oh, others have hinted that I may have swapped the lens and cover screws. I'll check that.
I smell a scandal!
It's the old screw-swapping scheme, seen it many times!
(But then, I'm in the States and we can't turn on the Cartoon Network and not find a scandal).
I'm beginning to hate the LED streetlights that are slowly assimilating the streetlamps here. What arsewipe decided to use cool white lights? They're too close to the colour of vehicle headlights, and the light source is too small which causes a dazzling effect when driving up hills and the lights are pointing down at you in your face, something I've never had an issue with the trusty old yellow streetlights.
I'm not against LED streetlights, just that they picked the wrong ones.
On a cycletrack near me there's a circular tunnel that goes under a road, they replaced the tiny, almost useless lights on the ground with 16 large panels of blinding LEDs on the roof. The stupid council went overboard on 'safety' which actually has the opposite effect because at night when you emerge from the 'tunnel of light' you're effectively blinded as it took away your natural night vision.
I think they replace them with the same wattage or lumens. But LEDs are much brighter. Someday they'll learn to focus them on what they want to illuminate; better yet, make them intelligent so they vary in response to ambient brightness, or movement.
Seeing anything in my feed that's mains voltage LED + Clive is like 🍬.
bought from ynaan a few times. good seller.
Sir if chock is out and direct on the led without chock then led is working
You should put out all your street lights. Turn oyur house into BIG CLIVE'S USED CARS!
Does it really need a earth, since it's attached to a big metal pole that goes into the ground :) Besides the bottom connections are grounded.
Hi sir, I've got same street solar light, it's been 2 years hav been using n the remote is not working, specifically the "No/Off" one, all the other buttons r working.
No ability to add a NEMA socket (so for many installations it will run during daytime and overheat in the summer).
The fins on the top will get caked with bird crap.
Heavy rain and high winds will drive rain into the glandless cable hole.
Agree with the NEMA socket. As far as the cable hole, it's nothing a bit of silicon in the hole at install time won't fix; if that's not procedure, it will be after enough of them fail, I'd think. It would be nice if they'd just silicon that hole where the cord passes through, though.
Why does it remind me of Voyager from Startrek?
This might be the first time I have seen a 30w Chinese LED that was actually 30W
"I should get a lamp post"
LOL
bigclivedotcom , Hi. Great videos about everything. I learned a lot from you. I have a proposal for you. Could you make a video about different LED's and inverters? I have in mind those modified sine wave and those homemade :) some descriptions (how to use, if it's possible to use, what could happen), charts and diagrams would be perfect, no need for actual inverters and lamps. If it possible, talk about CFL's too. Currently, I am afraid to use inverters with my lamps, because I don't know, if it is safe.
Sorry if I made some mistakes, English language isn't my first language :) Best regards from Lithuania and good luck making those videos :)
can you make a video about all of your street lights like you did with all of your LED lamps?
+Arlen Moulton I've got another high profile LED streetlight on its way.
bigclivedotcom I bought a thorn beta 5 off eBay, I love it. Good to hear you plan on making more videos like this!
was that the Holophane?
would street lights need to be earthed technically? Are they just fused and connected direct to the pole or do some installations have more protection.
nice solder skill clive, I mean really octopus hands.
It could be interesting to install something like 100 watt LED to that thing. Would most likely be really nice light.
The case might not be able to dissipate the heat fast enough to avoid damaging such a high power LED.
Why do you use the flickery power meter now? I liked the other one better.
you gunna show it out in garden at night clive on your big tree ?
If he puts All other lights up We'll Spot him on Google Earth Map.
bigclivedotcom good find on this one.
It looks scary and totally like the 'stinger' off of a Triffid plant !
I like it... The problem with the screws is simple. You can add washers to the screw or put a nut on the screw then grind the screw and loosen the nut so it re-taps the screw because grinding the screw will cause it to be stripped and the nut fixes that. Or use shorter screws.
I backed the video up and it was a bit blurry, but is it possible the 4 screws for the LED and the Driver Cover got switched?
Have you seen the conductive paint? Their making circuit boards with paint
They've been playing around with that for decades. It's not strong.
We bought a few Chinese LED style Lamps like boxy ones you showed us before. and they are really bad quality.. approx 2-4 months of use they start flashing or go out... So drivers and LED will need to be replaced with better components.
Thats sad, but if the price is right, they would be worth it just for the case and the lens.
I also bought some cheap stuff from china just to get the case
I agree with you djteac its worth just for the case.. the components inside are really horrible quality once you put it outside and let the heat of the sun bake the electronics and put hours on those LEDs they will start flickering or just burn out.
yup these drivers are never going to last as long as people expect a street light to last. Really you want something designed for 100,000 hours plus and those drivers won't fit in this enclosure!
I've been running the cheapest 50w driver and chips from DX for 12hrs a day for over 3 years now. They are running on CPU coolers in a temperature controlled environment with a circulation fan so I'd say heat is the issue, not the chips/drivers.
Hi Clive, what is that power meter thingy you have there and where can these be purchased from?
night garden test please Clive?
Yeah you have to earth that in Australia to
Is there any chance you could find a way to boost the volume on your videos?
The advertisment is obknoxiously loud even at 50% volume but I can't actually hear you talking without headphones and 100% max volume.
does "driverless" mean that it connects directly to AC power without stepping down the voltage or going from AC to DC?
+Jeff Flowers It means that the current regulating circuitry is on the same panel as the LED chips. So no external driver is needed.
Was the end of the lamp case broken? looked like it was chipped/cracked.
How do you connect the cable in the pole? Normal streetlights have terminal block inside.
+JendaLinda It would require the addition of a connector.
bigclivedotcom the seller of that light sounds Turkish...
@@bigclivedotcom I've noticed that where I live, some of the LED fixtures (Philips Roadflair?) come with several metres of cable attached. The power crews don't bother trimming it, and just coil it up and leave it up there.
can condensation ever be a problem for LED lamps ? with warm inside and cold outside does water ever be an issue ? if there is no tight seal then damp air can get inside the lamp unit and condense or ?
+girlsdrinkfeck Yes. Condensation is a big problem with all outdoor LED lighting.
Are you sure you didn't get the panel backwards at the end?
I have two questions;
1: How did I end up here?
2: Why am I finding this so interesting?
The lid looks to have curved edges under the screw holes. But the posts on the base don't, and aren't tall enough anyway. That leaves screw threads exposed to the elements. Ignoring dissimilar metal problems, of course, that leaves likelihood they'll corrode.
It seems stupid to have all those fins across the top as it'll just crust up with bird droppings. Can't imagine there's enough heat dissipation needed.
do you think this could be used for festival walk ways ?
Standard LED floodlights would probably be easier to mount.
What is the voltage going to the LED from the driver ? I see in a auction listing they also have a 12v version I am guessing that would be driver-less ? but I could also be a idiot
Where didmyou get the Hopi power analyzer?
is it a 230v intake ? assuming its for UK market and to place outside a building instead of an actual street lamp post ?
+girlsdrinkfeck Universal voltage. But the Chinese use 220v.
Seems like a nice light. I wonder if it would be difficult or practical to convert it to a solar unit. I would be interested if someone can direct me to a similar diy video…
I've featured solar street lights
@@bigclivedotcom Yes, thanks Mr. Clive, I’ve watched several of your street light videos already. My thought was to use a quality enclosure like you’ve featured here and convert it to a solar unit.
Isn't the blue side of that reflector removable protective film?
Yes it is. I guess they just removed the stuff on the side that is visible.
G'Day BC, I too have a weird fascination for street lighting (for absolutely no apparent reason). Are you able to take some of your street lights somewhere dark and raise them approx street light level to show what sort of "real life" light they put out? I would be interested to see how these 30 / 50 / 100 W lens covered street lights go. We still use sodium lamps here in Perth, Western Australia.
+incident info There are a lot of people with a fascination for street lighting. I would like a full size lamp post, but then I'd also need an access truck.
The new types of "personal" street lighting, like they have in car parks and the like, have a hinged square pole, so to service the top bit you undo and bring it down to ground level.
Hinged / Swing poles are everywhere now. So simple but saving a lot of time and money.
Sounds like an ebay purchase coming up!