The Unconscious
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Episode 50. The Unconscious
What do Freudian slips, Josie and the Pussycats, and solving math problems have in common? Psychoanalysis claims to have some answers! Sigmund Freud suggests that unconscious desires, fears, and trauma influence us without us being conscious of them. In pop culture, the unconscious is often depicted as the realm of dirty thoughts and subliminal messages, but does the unconscious actually even exist? In episode 50 (!), Ellie and David explore the unconscious and the existentialist challenge to it from Jean-Paul Sartre.
Overthink is a philosophy podcast hosted by your favorite new professors, Ellie Anderson (Pomona College) and David Peña-Guzmán (San Francisco State University). Check out our episodes for deep dives into concepts such as existential anxiety, empathy, and gaslighting.
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Works Discussed
Sigmund Freud, “The Unconscious”
Jean-Paul Sartre, Being and Nothingness
Josie and the Pussycats (2001)
The Exorcist (1973)
Karl Popper, Conjectures and Refutations: The Growth of Scientific Knowledge
Stanislas Dehaene, The Code of Consciousness
Jacques Hadamard, An Essay on the Psychology of Invention in the Mathematical Field
Jacques Derrida, “Freud and the Scene of Writing”
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Thanks for the podcast it takes me back along my journey while l was in grade 13 ( 68 yrs old now )
I was fortunate to have Dr Marion Woodman for my Philosophical English and drama teacher for five yrs .
She after my graduate year went to study at Jung Institute in Switzerland resulting in international recognition and many honorary degrees Focusing on woman’s psyche via four books .
As a teenager we were well versed in Freud , Jung , Nietzsche , Dostoyevsky and great artists! As well as being introduced into subliminal advertising through a professor at out local Western University in London ( Ont , Canada ) . Who brought to the academic stage the idea of subliminal psychology ( he being a pioneer in the field .
Her husband Dr Woodman was a professor of English ( subject William Blake )
So university seemed a let down after having swam in the deep waters of psychology philosophy and art . Besides the 60 generation was quite a different time in history) !
What is your reason for not including Jung in a podcast on the unconscious ?Unconscious is unconscious ( the life work of Jung via archetypes work through ). The subconscious ( more Freudian! Is a wasteland of sexual fantasies)
Sartre is after the fact criticism not a actual participation in the foundation of its development as is Freud and Jung !
Jung was influenced by Kant and Nietzsche, though leaving Nietzsche on the shelf so to maintain psychological balance !
Having said this Kant numina being unknown thing in itself thus leaving religion to the field of metaphysics . Jung l feel uses his unconscious as a psychological landscape for this ( unconscious of God )
Freud can be found as ego version of Hegel.
Family ( Id) individual ( ego ) state ( superego )
Psychological conflicts as Hegel theists, antithesis and synthesis
and Jung synchronicity!
Along my journey l find both arguments of Freud and Jung having well rooted truths , ( this through personal dreams )some
uncertainty remains , which to me makes it legit .
My self being a artist relates to the pictorial found in metaphors, symbols and dreams .
Thanks again !
( ps as you probably analyzed upon reading this , Dr Marion Woodman always gave me A plus for philosophical content though B for grammar and spelling)
thanks for sharing, loved it! its interesting how censoring as well as censorship avoidance mechanisms manifest themselves in a similar way in our minds as well as in societies. On another topic: have you already discussed verifiable vs falsifiable somewhere in previous episodes? you briefly mentioning falsifiability here, but I bet it is worth more elaborate discussion.
Am I imagining this sequence of code beneath my senses? or is it actually there
First of all, thank you for talking about psychoanalysis.
I've only listened to fifteen minutes of podcast and I already
have a lot to say.
I want to point out that, for some reason, when people talk about
psychoanalysis today, they talk about Freud. Isn't it a bit strange
to speak of a modern discipline through its founder? I don't think
that if someone talks about evolutionary psychology today,
they will take Darwin as a point of reference.
Current psychoanalysis has gone through Lacan, Miller, Laurent
and many other producers of theory.
The unconscious has nothing to do with the subliminal,
nor is the subliminal a small part of the unconscious.
Lacan detailed how the unconscious is always on the surface,
that is, in speech acts. It means that we always say more or
less than we think we say, but not from any hidden place,
much less subliminally.
The concept of the unconscious is not scientific,
it is clinical. If we accept that the scientific method,
although admirable, cannot cover everything, it will not be
so surprising. Cognitive psychology is full of constructs and
hypotheses that cannot be verified (the idea of mental schemes,
for example) and no one asks for or can be given scientific verification.
The unconscious is inferred from clinical practice.
It may not be scientific. I admit it.
But they are not very different inferences from those that psychology
recognized as scientific allows itself all the time.
Trying to take away the credibility of psychoanalysis
by talking about falsifiability seems too much to me.
A clinical intervention is not an experiment, it is a speech
act that does not have to be true or false in universal terms.
It points to the symptom and the real point of the subject,
an act that is totally partial and the opposite of generalization.
It is crazy to pretend that an experiment could be made of that.
I really like the format of your podcast,
and I think it's a very good idea to talk about philosophy.
Current psychoanalysis is an ethical bet in the clinic,
in what is played in human suffering, and not a fun university or
artistic theoretical game.
Best regards from Spain
A well expressed comment. I think this marks what can be a pitfall of these Philosophy channels, being the difficulty with psychoanalysis and psychoanalytical concepts.
Is there a difference between the unconscious when you are awake and the unconscious when you are sleeping (and dreaming)? It seems like Freudian slips and "shower thoughts" happen in completely different contexts than when you are dreaming.
I never took the controversy over psychoanalysis to be over the acknowledgement of the unconscious itself, but rather the conviction that the unconscious can be studied.
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