Suno A.i. 3.5 - How to use MORE PROMPTS for better songs!
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Suno 3.5 has some much needed improvements AND some hysterical errors. I'm going to run through some new prompts and what they do while creating my new song ANTHEM FOR GNERATION X.
LINKS:
Song Structure:
blog.songtrust...
List of Prompts to sound like certain bands:
/ complete-list-of-promp...
ADDITIONAL NOTES:
Prompts, styles and pacing:
Meta Tags
[intro]
[verse]
[pre-chorus]
[chorus]
[refrain]
[bridge]
[outro]
[end]
Additional Description
(words repeated by BG singers)
[happy verse]
[sad verse]
[rap verse]
[pop chorus]
[pre-chorus]
[hooks]
[intro instrumental]
[break]
[interlude]
In song description:
(there are hundreds of styles you can use. In addition, you can add pacing and time signature notes here. ie: )
Andante - at a walking pace (73-77 BPM)
Moderato - moderately (86-97 BPM)
Allegretto - moderately fast (98-109 BPM)
Allegro - fast, quickly and bright (109-132 BPM)
Or just add the BPM (Beats per minute) that you want.
80, 90, 100, 120 - etc…
a few style prompt's I've discovered that are not in any documentation:
● atonal, ● fractal-noise, ● atonal, ● rubato, ● tuplet
I have a growing list of genres I've seen in other's song receipies.
Please let me know what else you have found that works. Thanks.
Genre Tags
● Acapella ● AcidJazz ● AcidRock ● Acoustic Guitar ● Adagio ● Adjan ● Adjunct ● AdultContemporary ● Afro-Cuban ● Afrobeat ● Aggressive ● Allegro ● Ambient ● Americana ● Andante ● Anthemic ● Arabian ● Arabian Ornamental● Art ● Atmospheric ● Atmospheric Black Metal ● AudiobookBackground ● Avant-garde ● Avant-garde Jazz ● Avant-garde Metal
● Background ● Banger ● Bangra ● Barbershop ● Bass ● BassHouse ● Beatboxing ● Bebop ● Bedroom ● BigBand ● BlackMetal ● Bluegrass ● Blues ● BluesRock ● Bolero ● BossaNova ● Broadway ● Brostep ● Butoh ● Cabaret ● Calypso ● Callto Prayer ● Calming ● Carnival ● Carnatic ● Celtic ● Chaotic ● Chalga ● ChamberMusic ● Chanson ● Chillhop ● Chillout ● Chillwave ● Chiptune ● Choir ● Christmas Carol ● Cinematic ● Classic ● Classic Rock ● Classical Crossover ● Club ● ComedyRock ● Composer ● Contemporary Classical ● Contemporary R&B ● CoolJazz● Country ● CountryBlues ● CountryRock ● Cowboy ● Crunk ● Cyberpunk ● Dance ● DancePop ● Dancehall ● Dark ● DarkAmbient ● DarkCabaret ● DarkElectro ● DarkFolk ● DarkJazz ● DarkPop ● Darkwave ● DeathMetal ● Deathcore ● DeepHouse ● DeepTechno ● DeltaBlues ● DesertRock ● Disco ● DiscoFunk ● Distorted ● Doom● DoomMetal ● DooWop ● Downtempo ● DreamPop ● Drone ● DrumandBass ● Dub ● DubTechno ● Dubstep ● DungeonSynth E ● EDM ● Electro ● Electro Swing ● Electroacoustic ● Electronic ● Electronic Rock ● Electropop ● Emo ● Emotional ● Enka ● Epic ● Ethereal ● Ethnic ● Eurodance ● Europop ● Experimental ● Experimental Rock● Experimental Metal F G ● Fado ● Festive ● Fingerstyle Guitar ● Flamenco ● Folk ● FolkMetal ● FolkPunk ● FolkRock ● Forró ● FreakFolk ● Freestyle ● FrenchHouse ● Funk ● FunkMetal ● FunkRock ● FutureBass ● FutureGarage ● FutureHouse ● Gabber ● GarageRock ● GlamRock ● Glitch ● Glitch Hop ● Glitch Pop● GoaTrance ● Gospel ● GothicMetal ● GothicRock ● Gregorian Chant ● GrooveMetal ● Groovy ● Grunge ● Guajira ● GypsyJazz H ● HappyHardcore ● HardBop ● HardRock ● HardcorePunk ● Hardstyle ● HarshNoise ● Haunted ● Hawaiian ● Heat ● HeavyMetal ● HeavyMetalTrap ● High-NRG ● Hindustani ● HipHop ● HonkyTonk ● House● Hyperpop I J ● IDM(Intelligent Dance Music) ● Indie ● Indie Folk ● Indie Pop ● Indie Rock ● Industrial ● Industrial Metal ● Industrial Rock ● Instrumental ● Instrumental Rock ● Intimate ● Irish Folk ● Islamic Call to Prayer ● Italian Opera ● Jazz ● JazzFusion ● JazzRap ● Jingle ● Jpop ● JugBand ● Juke ● JumpBlues ● Jungle● K-pop K L M ● Kabuki ● KawaiiMetal ● Kayōkyoku ● Klezmer ● Koto ● Latin ● Latin Jazz ● Latin Pop ● Latin Rock ● Lo-fi ● Lounge ● LoungeSinger ● LoveSong ● Lullaby ● Lyric Opera ● Mambo ● March ● Mariachi ● Martial Industrial ● Mashup ● MathRock ● Melancholy● Melismatic ● Mellifluous ● MelodicDeath Metal ● MelodicMetalcore ● Metal ● Metalcore ● Military ● Minimal ● MinimalTechno ● Minimalism ● Mod ● ModalJazz ● ModernClassical ● Moombahton ● Motown ● MovieSoundtrack ● MumbleRap ● MusicBox ● MusicalTheatre ● MusiqueConcrète ● Muzak N ● Narodna ● Narrative ● NativeAmerican ● Neoclassical ● Neofolk ● NeonPop● Neurofunk ● NewAge ● NewJackSwing ● NewOrleansJazz ● NewWave ● NewYorkHardcore ● NoWave ● Noise ● NoisePop ● NoiseRock ● NordicFolk ● Nostalgic ● NuDisco ● NuJazz ● NuMetal O P ● Ode ● Opera ● Operatic Pop ● Orchestral ● Organum ● Oriental Metal ● OutlawCountry ● PaganMetal ● Pagode ● Parody● Partita ● Party ● Philadelphia Soul ● PianoBlues ● PianoRock ● PiedmontBlues ● PipeBand ● Plena ● Polka ● Pop ● PopPunk ● PopRap ● PopRock ● Post-Bop ● Post-Disco ● Post-Dubstep ● Post-Grunge ● Post-Hardcore ● Post-Metal ● Post-Punk ● Post-Rock ● PowerElectronics ● PowerMetal ● PowerPop ● Progressive ● Progressive House ● Progressive Metal ● Progressive Rock ● Psybient● Psychedelic ● Psychedelic Folk ● Psychedelic Pop ● Psychedelic Rock ● Psychedelic Trance ● Psychobilly ● Punk ● PunkBlues ● PunkJazz Q R ● Qawwali ● Quebecois Traditional ● QuietStorm ● Quintet ● Ragga ● Ragtime ● Rai ● Ranchera ● Rap ● RapMetal ● RapRock ● Rave ● Reggae ● Reggaeton ● Requiem ● Rhapsody● RhythmandBlues(R&B) ● Rock ● RockandRoll ● RockOpera ● Rockabilly ● Rocksteady ● Romantic ● RootsReggae ● RootsRock ● Rumba ● RussianFolk S ● Salsa ● Samba ● SambaRock ● Satire ● Scandinavian Metal ● Schlager ● Schoenberg ● Score ● Screamo ● SeaShanties ● Sega ● Semba ● Sensitive ● Sephardic ● Serialism ● Shamisen● Shoegaze ● Sideshow ● Sighing ● Singer-Songwriter ● Ska ● SkaPunk ● SkatePunk ● SkateRock ● Skiffle ● SlowCore ● SlowMotion ● SludgeMetal ● SmoothJazz ● Snap ● Soca ● SoftRock ● Sonata ● Songhai ● SonicTexture ● Soul ● SoulJazz ● SoundArt ● SoundCollage ● Soundtrack ● Southern Gospel ● Southern Rock ● SpaceDisco ● SpaceRock ● Spaghetti Western● SpanishFolk ● Spectralism ● SpeedMetal ● Spiritual ● SpokenWord ● Staccato ● StadiumRock ● Steelpan ● StonerRock ● Stride ● String Quartet ● SufiMusic ● SurfRock ● SwampPop ● SwampRock ● Swing ● Symphonic ● SymphonicBlack Metal ● SymphonicMetal ● SymphonicPop ● SymphonicRock ● Symphony ● Synth-pop ● Synthwave ● Taarab ● Tango ● TapeMusic● TechHouse ● Techno ● Tejano ● TexasBlues ● ThaiPop ● ThrashMetal ● ThroatSinging ● Timba ● Traditional ● Traditional Folk ● Trance ● Trap ● Tribal ● TripHop ● Tropical House ● Tropicália ● Trot ● Troubadour ● TruckDriving Country ● Turbofolk ● Turntablism ● TVThemes ● TweePop ● Twelve-tone ● Twist ● UKDrill ● UKFunky● UKGarage ● Uplifting ● UrbanContemporary ● UrbanFolk ● Usul ● Vallenato ● Vaporwave ● Vaudeville ● Vegas ● Venetian Snares ● VideoGameMusic ● VienneseWaltz ● Viking Metal ● Villancicos ● Villain Theme ● Vintage ● Visual Kei ● Vocal ● VocalHouse ● VocalJazz ● VocalTrance ● Vocaloid ● Volksmusik ● Waltz ● WarMetal● WestCoastRap ● Western ● WesternSwing ● WitchHouse ● World ● WorldBeat ● WorldFusion ● Worship ● XhosaTraditional ● Xoomii ● YachtRock ● Yakshagana ● Yé-yé ● Zamba ● Zeuhl ● Ziglibithy ● Zouglou ● Zouk ● Zydeco
Wonderful! Thanks for sharing!!!
@@StrangeMusical added your list to my latest video w/ credit. Thanks for sharing!
Is that all you got? ;-)
@@PhilAndersonOutside no. I am holding some tricks back until I get some percent of success to some neat but inconsistent results.
if you're into country music add prompt 'steel guitar' and it will give a more country feel
Just the step by step guide I was looking for. Excellent work, man. Thanks!
I'm so glad it helped! Best of luck in your music making!!
I agree. This is a real time-saver. Thank you.
Hi Matt,
Thanks for the great video! I’m also new to Suno, and while I’ve tried all the basic features, I feel that the Suno team could improve the editing capabilities (which they might refer to as "Extend").
If I had the chance to ask Suno some questions, I’d be interested in learning how to do the following. If these features aren’t available yet, I believe their team is working hard to enhance the app's performance by adding new features every day. Here are the things I’d like to learn or see added to Suno:
I've watched several Suno tutorial videos, but most of them cover only the basics, which we’ve already figured out. What we really need are advanced tutorials, particularly on editing and other sophisticated features.
I hope you can create a detailed video that addresses the following requests. If some of these requests aren’t possible yet in the Suno app, I hope we can all provide feedback to encourage Suno to consider developing and improving these features to make the app even better.
1- Vocal Replacement: After creating a song using the Suno app, I’d like to be able to replace the generated vocals with my own voice. I believe there’s an app called "Replay.ai" that offers this feature. It would be great if Suno could incorporate something similar. I’ve uploaded my voice (up to 60 seconds), but I’m not sure how to replace the Suno vocals after the song is generated.
2- Key Change: It would be helpful to have the option to change the key of the song after it’s generated, especially since some songs may be too high or low for my vocal range. This feature is similar to what’s available in Karaoke machines or the Moises app.
3- Vocal Separation: I’d like to be able to separate the lead vocals from the backing vocals. It would be great if we could keep Suno's backing vocals while replacing the lead vocals with our own voice. There should be an option to separate the main vocal track from the backing vocals.
4- Voice Selection: When choosing between a male or female singer, it would be beneficial to have the option to select a "deep" voice with a low pitch or a high-pitched singer.
The next feature is not as critical at the moment, as it might be more complex to develop:
5- Track Editing: It would be amazing if we could view and edit instrument and vocal tracks separately.
Let me just say... I LOVE Suno. I tried it and LOVE it. Thanks 4 sharing !!😊
It's soooo fun isn't it????
@@realmattdean Totally😊
Thx, a lot of new stuff
If you want male voice in verse and female in chorus you can add [John] after [verse] and [Sarah] after [chorus] or any names
It works for me
Wonderful! That's a great idea. I've tried "male" and "Female" voices. I had NOT tried specific names - I think I need to try that out and see what happens!!
Now, if we can get Suno to recognize 70s and 80s vocals as a prompt. Of the only 17 songs on my YT channel, there were literally hundreds of rejected songs. Just wanting a non-autotuned, non-modern vocal. It works well with like 50s and 40s, sometimes 60s vocals work well, but Suno doesn't seem to recognize "70s Disco" all too well, and only half the time recognizes 80s vocals. When that update comes out, I'll e all over it ;)
Haha - ya, it’s tough on the specifics for a lot of these. We’re all trying to figure out what (if any) prompts work that give us more control over the vocal and the instruments. It’s pretty hit and miss at the moment. But it’s soooo new. I’m betting we’ll have all of that in the coming 6 months to a year.
Use the prompt post-punk or synth wave and Suno will give you 80s style vocals. I haven't found a solution for 70s or disco. You could try using "Classic 70s" in the style prompt. Also, remember with prompts, you need to capitalize the first letter of each word in the prompt or Suno will skip it altogether.
This has been my biggest challenge. Suno doesn't seem to know the difference between 80s vocals and modern vocals.
Cool tutorial man! I got a laugh out of this + some smarts. Great meme - gen X the fuck around and find out people. Love it! 😅✨⚪✨
Glad you enjoyed it!!
How do you get a new version of a song without losing everything you like about the previous version? Like I get a great voice with the right timing and phrasing for my original lyrics and audio sample but maybe the bridge or third verse has some issues. How do I re-roll the dice to get a new version but keep the same voice? Because the next one might have a voice I’m not crazy about or the timing is all wrong. And I would love to be able to completely block that Zoltan(Five Finger Death Punch) singer because that’s never going to be the kind of rock/metal I’m going for and he comes up way too often and I hear it in your song here too 😂
You use the extend function to make corrections. If the problem area was at 1:12 in the song, then start the extension at 1:12. You’ll only get 2 minutes… but you can do another 1 min extension after that. Also you can use as a patch in an area that needs fixed and stick the song back together in separate audio software.
Is there a way to keep ai voice the same?@@realmattdean
You can also get instrumentals using the custom to write in the meta tags there instead of lyrics. You can also mix it with lyrics. I can almost consistently get 2.5-3.5 minute songs
I write all my own songs , I’ve got some bangers out of this!
i can hear the artifacts on high end parts, it reminds me of highly compressed mp3
dont forget to do outro or end or your song will cut off at 3:59 and sound dumb at the end
Yes. That’s absolutely true.
However - I’ve had “end” on several and it just kept going anyway with some rather hysterical results.
I tried with my vocals and worked so well :))
That’s amazing! Do you have a link to share?!
Can you do a Tutorial using your vocal. I really want to see hows its done. I like vocals it gives you but i would want my own
I’ll take a look and see how that might work. I may have to create an instrumental in Suno that I like and then add the vocal in protools or a similar software. Thanks for the suggestion!
@realmattdean I would just do it straight from suno. That way we get a better understanding. I understand what your saying and that way would be more "polished" but I barley downloaded suno last nite and I'm so intrigued. All day at work I've been learning about this amd Stumbled on your channel. You have 1 new subscriber in me💯
It might sound simple but I have found that when I say "please suno do this or that" he follows the instructions, for example I told him not to do something as a negative prompt and it stopped doing it.
Really? I find that fascinating.
I made a great song with Suno Ai but the beginning is so bad..I just want variations of the beginning without messing up the whole song in the same format..There is no explanatory video on this subject. I want the same song in full instead of extending the song...what should I do _?
You could do an extension with variations on breaking the song down into it's elements and see if any of those elements work as the beginning, but then you'll need to use a 3rd party music editor to stich it all together.
How did you get ronnie James dio voice for your song?
I’m interested in seeing your note on Suno prompt list, you pull it up in video but don’t have a link to it, I’m sure it would help a bunch of people watching
thanks for your thoughts on this. I've added many of the basic ones to the description of each of the videos. Let me know how it goes for you!
@@realmattdean thank you! As some of the ones in your video notes I’ve never seen or used myself, it would be great to see what all can actually be used as input.
@@dopestshizever let me know how it goes!
I am a producer so I want more control. How can you make your own chord progression? Thanks
oh boy - that's a really great question. That doesn't seem to exist yet. My guess (and I may be wrong) is that the music being generated is based on sampling rather than actually building up the music from instruments and chords like a normal musician would. This seems to be why it's impossible to get consistency or good breakdowns into selected instruments or why when you tell it "Guitar ballad" it does a piano instead. as long as it's only sampling, it'll never be able to be as specific as all of us want it to be. I think they would have done better training individual instruments on music theory and chord progression so that we can pick and chose what is needed for each song. But alas - this is what we have to work with for now!
any chance you'll do a tutorial on how to stitch the parts together?
Sure. I’m going to go over the comments from this last week and make a new tutorial going over several questions people have like stitching. Will try and get one out before the weekend!
@@realmattdean great, thanks!
i usually put in the Style of Music box up to the 120 letter limit, is it a good idea? or fewer is less confusing to the AI?
I think this is something worth experimenting with. You’ll be able to tell pretty quick if it’s confused.
AI guides on how to create music or even just swapping vocals are being increasing deleted, I'll assume it's related to the RIAA vs Udio and Suno case
Interesting. I haven’t seen that. I’m sure this case is going to change a lot. I would bet these models were not just trained on stock music. There isn’t enough variety that can be prompted. It’s like each song style is stuck on a set of rails that’s similar to released music. I guess we’ll find out if they’re forced to be open on how the ai was trained!
@@realmattdean On the official RIAA they point to the case and their eight examples of using real works. Some have been removed. Part of the problem seems to be also the users themselves, naming their songs 'mariah carey' or 'you shake my nerves and you rattle my brain' sounding like jerry lee lewis (sounds like his real voice) or in just using copyrighted lyrics within their work. Some of the riaa reasoning from the court paper I can agree with, but I think labels just want to control and create their own AI output in future to survive. Alot of what is mentioned about AI work clogging up the market isn't a great thing with art in general but the industry may not survive without taking part. I wonder whether real artists will have a say as to whether their voice can be used and sold as AI, or if it will be eventually part of all future contracts
@@MrVidification It's a real mess and our government is still trying to get things right from back in the 1980s. they have no chance in getting this stuff right with ai. Artists are not compensated for what they do. Whether it's on Spotify, or Netflix or ai - the ONLY way it seems to get any compensation is to create and maintain your own audience and platform and that just isn't doable for most people. The tools we have are amazing - but what this will look like in 5 years - I don't know. Other than what ever monetization is available, the corporations will find a way tot control it. Still - we're going to keep trying.
so there no way to connect the extended version of the song to the original?
Click on the extension you created. On the right side of the screen - there are 3 dots. Click on those 3 dots. A window opens. Around 1/2 at down it says “get whole song” and it will patch together the song from beginning to end using the patch of extension you created.
@@realmattdean thank you so much. Love your videos
Is it possible to use a specific voice, like Anita Baker's soulful tone, as a voice model for AI-generated songs? And if so, how could I apply that same voice to create covers of different songs?
I go over that in my latest video. It seems to be a bit difficult to get a specific voice but I’m hoping through experimenting we can figure out how to make this a bit more precise.
Suno ai: How to create different voices
ua-cam.com/video/cr3gY4feIgw/v-deo.html
Would you know how to add in the sound of a heart beat? Could be done in the intro or even in the middle of the song
If I were going to try this - I would try [sound effect of a heart beat] where you want it to go and see if that works. I have NO idea if it’ll recognize that but it’s worth a try! Let me know what you find!
How about guitar chords on your song? is it possible?
I prompted "guitar ballad" on one of my songs and it did a piano instead. It seems to have difficulty with specifics - but hopefully that will be fixed in upcoming versions.
Does anyone know how to play a song in a specific note or say minor? I’d like to create a sad song
If you add [sad verse] or [sad chorus] you should get that result. Also try using “sad” or “melancholy” to the song description and see if that does what you want. Good luck and let me know what happens!