The Influence of Drake: The Good, The Bad, & The UGLY
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- Опубліковано 4 січ 2024
- Drake is an artist who has been one of the most influential individuals on my music taste of any other musician. I will always hold a significant place in my heart for my first listens of So Far Gone, Take Care, Scorpion... but the last few years have hurt me greatly.
This is not a video about why "all of Drake's new music sucks!" and how he's just the worst person ever; it's a commentary and examination of how Drake has changed the culture surrounding popular music and what I believe we can do as fans to move this influence back in a positive direction.
Do I think we can create a large enough voice to actually turn the tides? I don't know, but I'd rather fail at something important than be complacent...
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“My hero” glazing
Lmao
Ikr the dude couldn't keep Drake's 🍆 outta is mouth
drake also wasn't the first to breach what many rappers before him talked about in their songs in terms of moving away from money guns and bitches and he certainly wasn't the first to highlight and include women in rap in a less raunchy way, people like Lauren hill and kanye pioneered that movement. although drake made it popular to do so, he wasn't the first mainstream example of this being done.
“Changing the culture of misogyny.” 😭😭😭 He either always been lowkey misogynistic or regressed terribly…
A long awaited call-out that everyone just acts like isn't a problem... great video!
Your support is appreciated Jit, Just.
I think what people do is make assumptions. We assume artists want to be artsy. We assume artistry is always mysterious and rooted in sadness. I believe art is a persons views on life , beauty and society. It’s subjective and means different things to different people. We are assuming drake wants to make music to impress rap nerds, bloggers and podcasters . When in reality he wants to beat the Beatles. I think his goal as an artist is to have the most hits ever (which he already does) when it comes to the billboard hot 100. He has 14 and needs 7 #1s to top the list all time. I believe that’s where his motivations lie. To look at it any other way is crazy until he comes out and says “these are my motivations” which no artist does lol.
This is a great perspective!
missed your videos bro, keep banging out videos
Really interesting video bro! Favorite music channel
your videos are great i really appreciate the way you look at music even if i don’t agree 100% you really care about the music you talk about and i fw that heavy
I LOVE YOU JACKSON KEEP THIS GREAT WORK UP
It’s a good day when I see a new post
I have only watched your Kendrick and Drake videos so far, and I gotta say, you know your shit! These are great breakdowns and you articulate them so well. You just earned a new subscriber!
I gave up on Drake after CLB when his intentions and directions were clear. I felt like "yoh it's been five years, five albums and it feels like an endless loop soo it's likely that this sh*tshow will carry on till the ceiling blows out". I didn't want an "old drake" or a "take care drake", all I want or expect from artists is self-expression, music derived from an artist's feelings, vision, thoughts, experiences or memories which translates into inspiration, not formulaic, mimicking and aimed at demographics music, I've been listening music for a minute so I got standards. So instead of keep shiting on him, I just ignore him, which is quite inevitable because in one way or another he'll pop in my ears through one of the artists that I'm interested, and somehow he never fails to disappoint (J Hus - Who told you).
Great video.
It’s crazy watching this again while drake is beef with Kendrick
I think drakes shift in style and even motivation to be better happened when Meek exposed the ghost writer shit. His passion to be the best “rapper” changed. People just kept dogging him as not a rapper.
Very valid point. It was at that point he began to put out much more aggressive music too.
I know your speaking from your perspective, so its wild to think in 09 i was listening to kcamp, rich kids and future. Perks of living in Atlanta i guess.
Im looking forward to the rest of the video, but idk if ill take anything in the video seriously given you basically just said that "drake saved hiphop" 😂😂😂 after trashing on wayne and kanye. What has drake brought to the table that kanye and wayne were not already doing? Every single rapper that has popped over the past 10 years - be it tyler the creator, future, kendrick, juice wrld, xxxtentacion, j cole, lil uzi vert, playboi carti, travis scott (need i go on?) Has named either wayne or kanye as their biggest influence or one of. Not a single one of those names i mentioned have listed drake as an influence.
This is not a diss on Drake's music - i am a big fan of the first half of his discog, and even his later stuff has some massive highs for me (amen and bahamas promises are both big highlights from the recent album for me), but i seriously question your understanding of the history of hip hop. These claims you have made make you come across as a fan of drake, not a fan of hh, bc they are just blantantly untrue, all for the purpose of making drake appear more impactful than he has been. He may be the biggest hh artist of the past decade, but he is not the most infuential artist of the past decade. Acting like HH was a dead genre he bled life into is unironically historical revisionism, it just isnt how it went down. Wayne and Kanye lit the fuse that made hh blow up into the biggest financially and most sonically diverse genre of the past decade, drake's gift was being one of the first artists to truly appreciate their vision and take it to the next level - proving how successful it could be.
Ok my stupidly unimportant rant about fucking hh is over lmao - no hate btw just needed to get that off my chest, i was genuinely just kinda flabberghasted at these statements pretty early in the video.
Anyhoo time to watch this video - if anyone happens to see this comment and disagrees and thinks the original video is right and/or im just misunderstanding the point id be curious as to what the counter arguement would be so defo letme know. Fuck i love hip hop 😂
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One day we are going to give Queen Latifah credit for being the first rapper to consistently sing on her albums. Before Lauryn, Wayne, Drake, Ye, etc
I’m not upset or bitter when I heard him say Drake with the artist that basically got him into rap culture told me exactly how he looked at the journey and evolution of rap, rap culture, and rap artists. Before Drake there was LL Cool J who made a rap love ballet called a I need love. Before Drake could even pull off much of what he did in the beginning one would have to acknowledge the change Kanye West brought to the industry. Kanye literally had men wear soft color polos and embracing the nerd/smart guy vibe. Drake has done a lot for the game but he has mainly been the final product set forth from the unique individuals before him like LL Cool J, Outlast, Kanye West, and Weezy F Baby
dont stop makling vids bro thios is high quality shit bro keep goingdont give up ppl do appreciate it even if ur numbers arent as hhigh as u want them to be
dont stop
I appreciate the two videos I have watched from your channel and I feel you have a genuine taste for music. I truly appreciate it. I will be the first to admit that I think Drake is trash. I was a fan when he first came out but he clearly sold out. Watching this video as sad as it is for me to say this but I have to appreciate Drake because if it wasn't for Drake then you probably would have not been introduced to Kendrick. (I found you from that video you made about Kendrick.) I can also say that I only imagine how many other people don't understand music like Kendricks because of Drake. I am conflicted, but I am glad you are a creator and being genuine and honest. Stay blessed.
As I listen to this flawed perspective, I have to remind myself that it makes sense that it makes sense that an outsider would deem another outsider as a "savior" of our culture. Aubrey was a movement, the movement of hip-hop further into the hands of the mainstream and majority culture. This is why when Aubrey is criticized, the only thing that he and his fans can fall on are his sales and streams i.e. how much outsiders like him....which is not only the antithesis to the actual culture, but also extremely detrimental to it. But go off...😒
Replace Drakes name with Eminem and you have the same opinion from the early 2000s from the same people. People pretend that his religious background had nothing to do with his rise in the industry. One has to think why Jay Z had been in hip-hop since 1989 and it took 30 years for him to get to what Drake was given in 10 years, $400 million deal.
Watching this in May 2024…. Lmaooooo
These videos are fuckin awesome. I’d say the weeknd trilogy videos are some of the best video essays ever.
I would love a Travis Scott video. Like: “Rodeo, birth of the modern rap superstar”
Your encouragement is so appreciated
@@JacksonsMusicPalateas a diehard kanye fan I would love to see a video made about one of his albums or a story about a point in his life that is misunderstood.
something else i would love to see is a good kid maad city video in the style of your mr morale and the big steppers videos much love and ur videos are amazing
@@JacksonsMusicPalate im interested in seeing you cover Tory lanez playboy album if not that then maybe your opinion on Chris brown
@@JacksonsMusicPalateactually I wanna see you cover take care
@@JacksonsMusicPalate not sure to be honest, maybe lana del ray or the newer weeknd stuff
Nothing Was the Same is my favorite album I'm not going to lie drake certified lover boy album grow on me I love the album still playing that album
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“My here” 😂😂😂😂
no way you can blame Drake for an entire change in the culture. He did what he was supposed to do with music 10 years ago. I feel like he earned the right to drop whatever he wants at this point
if you can credit him, you can blame him too.
he dont even get credit@@AugustCrossroads
Nobody can earn the right to drop whatever the fuck they want and get less shit on for it 🤦♂️
All im saying is yall talk like he a rookie in the game. Dude did everything niggas wanted him to do. What yall be wanting at this point@@Giotron
He definitely can release whatever he wants but when the quality lessens after we’ve been in the game for x amount of years then of course people are gonna say something.
Like I understand he never cared what critics and people had to say but when you yourself don’t even care about the quality or longevity of your music then it leads to conversation about said music.
he used to make timeless great songs like “ From Time “ nowadays he doesn’t care and his fans eat it up like he’s dropping gems or sum
I was a fan of drake from 2009 and I was listening on the radio and then my sister bought me nothing was the same and that's classic and I felt like since 2016 his music is trash and yea I pluck out some songs but I'm fan of drake still and scary hours 3 it was back into form of his 2015
Seems like now drake is just having fun now, he already gave us the nothing was the sames, so far gone, take care etc and he still got constantly disrespected and called a fluke, now that he’s doing what he wants to do people are begging for the same music they overlooked and clowned back in the day, just fickleness
What about those of Us who loved & supported his early music? There's a significant portion of his fanbase who sees this so-called "just having fun" music as lazy, immature bullshit from the greatest HipHop artist of his generation.
@@PheeblePhilosopher if you love his early music it’s still always there for you to go back to, but me personally as someone who’s been a drake fan since 09 I’m glad he doesn’t just make the same album over and over again, I like the music I can have fun too like the rich baby daddy & in my feelings type songs, one half of people slander him and say all his music sounds the same but then ask him to make his old music over again, never seen a artist get slandered so much for evolving with the times and having fun with they music while staying #1
@@mrfalls3003man if you think rich baby daddy is him evolving you’re a lost cause
@@jadencandelario7880 “since I don’t like it it’s not evolution”
@@mrfalls3003 no that’s not the point at all, you had 1000 other songs to talk about drake’s evolution and you brought up “rich baby daddy” one of the worst songs he’s dropped in years lmao, you sound like you’re 15
Are you going to do a video on j. Cole ?
Thanks for bringing this up! I would potentially do a video on him similar to this. But to be honest, it wouldn’t be received very well… I don’t have much to say in the way of positives for Cole
Channel orange next Mr.Jackson
Well look at the conversation on social media and how it influences the new artists that are coming up. Sure u shouldn't care what others think of u. But if u r doing it for the love of music and the music is good and all ppl care about is whether or not it's successful or if it charts after a while, you start asking yourself, do I need to do what's true for me? Or do I need to do what makes me successful? Personally, I don't feel that way but there's too much conversation on the SUCCESS of the music rather than the QUALITY and the CREATIVITY. I think if the ppl want something meaningful, they need to shift the focus.
The last quality authentic Drake song I remembered and loved is Nice For What and the Scorpion album
Ignoring the fact the problem is really capitalism, which dosent care about good or bad but winners and losers, and drake js definitely winning.
The problem is the jester is king. Its that drake is number one instead of number 4 or 5 claiming to be number 1.
Ya know I came here for 'The Bad' not because I'm a hater but that's just what I was intrigued about and came away with a really good point about the good he did when he first got into the game. Good video.
"I like Drake with the melodies, I don't like Drake we he act tough" 🕺
I dont think you can compare drake’s and weeknd’s transitions into massive mainstream popularity cause i feel that the weeknd’s portrayal of himself shifts with the sounds hes putting out like the sort of grittiness of the weeknd’s look paired with the serious tones of his older music and the red suit micheal jackson shit paired with the upbeat singy stuff he’s been putting out recently. Drakes kinda always been just drake
You don’t think the way Drake presents himself has changed over the years? I definitely think his topical and lyrical focus is pretty similar to his early work, and that is different to Abel. But to me it sounds like Drake has become a satire of himself at this point, where Abel’s artistic integrity has stayed intact, even if he’s dabbled into different styles and concepts
Hip-Hop just took the win!!. I hope everyone who didn't/couldn't understand the rap battle between Kendrick and Drake (& why KL won) studies this lesson. It was about a culture of music that its TRUE fans were watching be slaughtered and corrupted by the industry, money, power, greed etc...Drake unfortunately fell into the hands of it and became a pawn that everyone with open eyes could see. this aged like fine wine!
it's always a good day when one of my favorite youtubers drops. as a drake hater I appreciate your more neutral perspective, pointing out both the good and the bad. you always deliver great vids with well written takes
i agree wit the video excluding the first 5 minutes as drake wasn't actually the person that we needed, although he is a formidle figure and greatly contributed to hip hop, without kendrick lamar, hip hop would be down the drain.
The 5 years he went missing. Rap was the biggest genre outselling pop and country. The genre doesn’t need him like you think it does. I hate when people overrate tf out him
@@javontaepinder9945 lad the five years he went missing was so clearly influenced by him in terms of rappers that actually made good music not industry plant trap music or soft rap shit like drakes been makeing the last 4-5 years
@@lucasrusso813 drake been making soft music his whole career bucko. Not sure if you just wanted to get your drake hate off but it was bad. The game just doesn’t need Kendrick or anybody for a matter of fact. Andre 3000 went missing at his peak and the genre kept going and building. Y’all miracle lyrical rap fans so pretentious to new things
@@javontaepinder9945 early Drake always rapped with what appears was actual passion for music instead of the shit he dose now that sounds soft and like he dosent care even he’s soft rapping back then hit hard it dosent.
Andre 3000 is overated as fuck in my opinion so I’m not some lyricle rap fan only I apreaciate all rap but I love it more when an artist actually cares about what they are releasing like Kendrick always has, can’t say the same for Drake though
@@lucasrusso813 either you’re blinded by nostalgia or hate or just listened to other peoples opinion on him but drake is so much of a better rapper now than he is back then. Middle of the ocean, stories about my brother, omertà, diplomatic immunity is so much better than his rap tracks now. Even his songwriting in his R AND B is better. Polar opposites is better than a lot of the corny singing he used to do but his vocal ability deteriorated
drake's music may not have the same meaning behind it as it did in the earlier 2010's but he still makes music which sounds good which in my opinion is the most important, but i get that everyone is different
Praise God
LIST FAM, NOBODY CAN DO WHAT THAT MAN HAS DONE. NOBODY
Drake's antics are getting more and more distasteful. Which caused people like Kendrick Lamar to reach to the darkest part of their soul to get rid of the 'problem' he is contributing to. Kendrick may not be 'the' Saviour but he wants to at least help getting rid of this 'problem'.
Good video. All I gotta say is the older fans gotta chill, you’ll always have the music from your period no one’s taking that away from you. I feel like people are genuinely mad that people actually like drakes recent output and are trying to force feed an opinion on us. We get it. We see videos like this about him every month and still enjoy the music. It’s easier to hate on him in this age than to like everything he puts out and people just like what they like. You’ll never get a dramatic character arc from him, he’s just who he is and makes the music he wanna make. If catering to all his fanbases every album is what he wants to do, he deserves to do it. People always fall for the publicity stunt music and easy cash grabs but ignore all of his other music. He still makes introspective shit about his life, it’s just the since he’s the biggest the “bad” is magnified like no other.
Great points!
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I'm glad drake is enjoying himself now
😂😂 Good job Jackson
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Free smoke free smoke yay
Ngl everyone who made a song w drake gotta thank him
“My hero” bro please you sound just like drake
That was the point
No way bro said Yeezus isn’t good
Who’s here after Not Like Us ?? 😂
I stopped listening to hip hop around 2008. I just got to know who Drake is because of the beef. I cant deny his influence on the music, cause everything kinda sounds like him, but I absolutely hate this aesthetic, especially his pedantic haircut. I wouldn't say he "saved" hip hop, I think he reanimated already dead corpse. I wouldn't even say he is a rapper, he seems more like pop culture phenomenon. Still, good video, like for effort
Im so glad someone else noticed that unique euphoric colourless sound that defines the Toronto sound because id go on and on about how House of Balloons would really take you to Toronto thru music even if you lived in austrailia and most just wouldn't get it
dark lane demos his second best project to nothing was the same + take care is overrated its like the wu tang album (rae & ghost carry) + he’s only a man with money and pride
listen to veeze, babyface ray, bashfortheworld, MIKE., mavi, ceo trayle, rx papi, tony shhnow, and so many others if you think real shit is dead. maybe you cant relate cause youre an autist at home but if you outside chasin a check you kno how real dis is
el cousteu better than yo top 5
Im a huge fan of MIKE actually! Burning Desire was sick, and Faith Is a Rock was one of my favorite releases of the year too. He's definitely one of the illest keeping hip-hop progressing
if Aubrey was ever your hero at any point in your life... ooof.
Ja rule would like to have a word …
Kendrick > DRake and we all can agree..
i could taste those old wendys fries
UGK is the greatest drake song
I skip Marvin’s room too
Leave papi alone
Yall riding drake no hat😂
his production has gotten worse and his voice always sounds dead inside nowadays
Coming from a previous Drake fan… this video started off with waaaaaaay too much emphasis on Drake’s importance to the culture. 😂😂 Drake was a “miracle”? 😂 Bro 🤣
If the FIRST hip hop artist you ever got into was Drake… then you missed out on way too much for you to confidently claim that 2009 was the “lowest point of hip hop”. It’s also a VERY bold (and embarrassing) claim to say “Drake SAVED the genre of hip hop”😬. First you should probably learn that the hip hop genre is more than just Rap so you can look at the whole picture of the music that was being created at that time. And 2nd you should probably mention that Drake wasn’t the 1st, 2nd or 3rd rapper to do melodic rap about talking about feelings, love, and loving women. He also had quite a few misogynistic lyrics in his music, even back then. As much fun as it was growing up in that era and watching his rise, I would never say Drake was “needed” by hip-hop or that it would’ve been a dead genre without him. Everyone’s entitled to their own opinions, but the fact that you said “sure, I guess we had Kanye and Wayne”… as if they were a non factor at that point is crazy.
Become a fan of no man or woman, take the music leave the rest
I'll be respectful and tell you that it was a good video, however,drake isn't the best person out there. If you pay attention to anything he's ever done...you'd know it. That Naomi Sharon situation is pretty disgusting tale about how our society works. Who do you have to be to ruin a relationship just cause you wanted to? Lol please
You sound more angry than her. She didn’t make any statements and still chose to sign to his label. She ended her engagement too