@Solomon Archer wow guys you're right i tried it as well and it worked! officially confirming that this is a 100% legit conversation and not weird or fake
If your gear or RNG isn't up to par, you can always try a spec with prep and blade flurry to get double evasion and cleave. I personally hate respeccing every week so I just muscle it down.
Hey, nice guide, cheers. What's the auto attack timer addon that you're using? Thanks :) p.s. So is it not worth it to also pickpocket all those arena and guzzler mobs? Surely it'd give extra gold, blinding powder etc. I guess you don't in order to save the Vanish CD?
WeaponSwingTimer is the addon. I pickpocket if I'm feeling lazy but generally if you're going to pick pocket you just do the infinite loop every 8 minutes.
@@SwoleBenji Thanks! Yeah, sure, but I'm saying, why don't you add the pickpocket as a bonus, included in your room as shown in the video? I.e. just do the loop once, and the guzzler room once, and vendor everything.
if you got a pair of decent swords with combat spec and venomous totem you can sap one and tank and spank the other 2 mobs :) can also kill the third one after if you feel like it :p
I usually stealth and unlock the gate then go to plugger and kill him before going to coffers. That eliminates the sprint jump you use a keyboard macro for. Not sure if there's a benefit to doing him last?
So I need to be in engineer and and enchanter? I guess that means I'm buying all my mats for eng on the auction house? Also going to look past that you said enchanting isn't good on any server yet in a previous video.....
Imo, it is, yes but only if you can find coffer keys. Without coffer keys, you're reduced to pickpocketing which is way more boring. There might be some other guides out there tho..
The gate near the entrance? Lockpicking. If you mean the small square vault in the center of the room, you gotta inspect the portrait in the other room, click the name plate, and then go kill the mob that spawns, grab a dark coffer key, and it'll have sometimes a random mid level green and a bind on pickup item used for libram enchants.
@@SwoleBenji yeah I found out. im doing this with pre bis gear. manageable with thistle tea on HP pots. not doing it as fast as u, but it gives more than enough gold. the thing is that these BRD runs are entertaining and fun, u have to use ur brain, and that's something most gold farming is missing :)
if im not geared enough to kill these bosses / not willing to respec into the prefered specs, is pickpocketing still the best way to make gold as a rogue?
Gonna need blade flurry really. It's 100+ through vendoring but enchanting pushes it up to 140+ if your servers economy deems enchanting materials worth it.
Alexandros Panayi I’m just starting the BRD farm and I pickpocket the arena and guzzler, kill plugger and then do just the coffers. Last run got me 17g and took 18 min. It’s a start.
i swap in fire res gear for the first boss + fire reflector so i can reflect his fireball for more dmg. sap one, evasion, blade flurry. I was doing this while I was in blues with sword of zeal and the offhand lightsaber. now that i think about it, spazzring was slightly challenging but thats because I didn't know the fight very well. if you dont know how to do the fight, bring a shadow prot pot. it might save u from dying from the dot.
you can also kill the goblin that drops a 16 slot bag (soulbound) for more money, stand on the ledge overlooking the goblin next to spazzring and shoot one of the kronies. stay on the ledge and wait for them to reset. when they reset, shoot a kronie again immediately. the goblin will still be running back at this point. if u did it correctly, the goblin should not aggro. wait for the kronies to come back half way and then shoot the goblin. meet him at the ramp and make sure u have ks/gouge/blind because he runs fast af! you must do this BEFORE killing spazzring. GL, hope this helps.
You don't need the book, but you can use a dragonling or a chicken, but you can also just muscle it if you have good evasion RNG. I just find the summon helps.
@@wesleyluong7014 Depending on your gear you might have to just nuke Stilgis and vanish then wait on cooldowns. Arcanite dragonling or battle chicken work but aren't as tanky.
Use a summon to tank the dog while you ready up burst, use evasion when the dog aggro's you. It's hard to do at first but with practice it becomes simple. If the dog doesn't die from your cooldowns you'll have to gouge kite it. In the video I show a worst case scenario. Most of the time I can blow both up. If your gear is weak you can't really do this farm.
@@smokeythebear3399 What's your main hand though and are you using a proper spec? For summons, there's barov peasant caller, gnomish battle chicken, mechanical dragonling, the dog whistle from SM Library, the Winterfall exalted trinket, the books that summon skeletons, and a quest chain that summons a felhunter.
SwoleBenji I was using combat daggers but with sword OH had dragon fang blade and warblade of hakkari and thanks for all the help I really enjoy ur vids
Im missing engineering and the other items he uses, meaning i can't kill the bosses in the relic coffer room. This is putting me a around 50 g/h, any tips on what i could do?
So relic coffer keys are more than 5g a stack on my server. how would you recommend I.. Farm? them? lol. just kill guys in BRD? seems not efficient at all.
Full Tier 2, drake fang talisman, hand of justice, strikers mark, prestors connivery amulet, the nefarian ring, band of accuria, chromatically tempered sword, maladath.
@@SwoleBenji Is this for both dagger and swords rogues? I'm a dagger rogue and was wondering the same thing. Also, I haven't leveled my engineering yet, nor do I have the skeleton trinket from Ony. I have 4 pieces of t1 and t2 helm. Is it best if I skipped the first boss with the 2 saps as well as the veric mob in vault?
You can do it without any of those. The first Verek fight was a "worst case scenario" moment and what I had to do to recover without waiting 5 minutes on cooldowns.
if u need 5 min every time u kill a boss is not 100g/h anymore, so u really need skeleton and pouch and the script macro to be anywhere near 100g/h, just saying
@@aag99993 You just open on Stilgis and burn him down and if RNG isn't against you Verek will be like 20% or so, then you gouge and bandage and finish him off. You don't need a macro to jump the gap I just use it to never miss my jump timing. All you have to do is press space bar immediately after pressing W to do a forward running jump. I just macro it so I never fat finger or it accidentally do a short hop. The skeleton is just a diversion until you start cleaving but you can just tank Verek. I simply do it to reduce the RNG factor is all.
@@SwoleBenji Why would blinding powder even cost 1 silver ? It's free either through pickpocket or herbalism. You have 2 vanishes with prep...Are you new to rogue ?
SwoleBenji I guess it depends on gear but for pyro you all you need to do is sap and then BF him and the add. Stilgres and verek same thing. Also use ice reflector on him which helps lot. But again I’m not saying you’re wrong but I guess people with different gear/professions can do it differently
@@bradracine3426 If I don't rocket helm the Loregrain ad and it starts spamming spells it hurts really bad, and I've had runs where I chain miss (12% hit) or get crit a bunch and that one add was the deciding factor in having to bail. I don't think it's worth when RNG goes bad as the rocket helm is a 100% win rate VS a 90% win rate. Sure the add drops silver, cloth, and sometimes trash loot but not worth it to me. I also wanted the vid to be more accessible to lesser geared rogues. I'm the most geared rogue on my server right now but I imagine a lot of my audience is still working on their dungeon sets. I find Ice Reflector a waste cause one frostbolt is 550 damage where as Maelstrom procs 3-5 times a fight which is 900 avg damage over 100 runs, beating ice reflector.
@1:45 Yet you keep ignoring Adrenaline Rush and talk complete NONSENCE Ok, listen... This is the FIRST TIME in my life i will comment on a video! I have never commented a video before, whether i like it or not.BUT THIS SHAMELESS BULL***T RIGHT HERE NEEDS EXPLANATION! To the Karls and Trevors coming to defend this Pepega, here is the 2ND time he does that @2:38 . I stop watching right here
I clearly explain in the video if I use adrenaline rush there it's still on cooldown for the next fight which NEEDS adrenaline rush. Verek and Stilgis is very tough without it and you can run there long before it goes off cooldown hence why I don't use it.
when i have all the stuff, that i need to do this, i wont need anymore gold... lol
@Solomon Archer wow guys you're right i tried it as well and it worked! officially confirming that this is a 100% legit conversation and not weird or fake
This looks like so much fun, glad I rolled a rogue
This is actually alot harder to kill the bosses in the coffer room. I guess that book really does help alot
If your gear or RNG isn't up to par, you can always try a spec with prep and blade flurry to get double evasion and cleave. I personally hate respeccing every week so I just muscle it down.
I'm full bis from mc but my pants. Sometimes my runs go like this sometimes they go very terrible
I’ve killed that guy dozens of times and I’ve never seen a shanker drop. You lucky af.
same here hahhaa, about 40 tries and only got 1
but nice movie nevertheless, I didnt know you could kill the boss in the vault room
Hey, nice guide, cheers. What's the auto attack timer addon that you're using? Thanks :)
p.s. So is it not worth it to also pickpocket all those arena and guzzler mobs? Surely it'd give extra gold, blinding powder etc. I guess you don't in order to save the Vanish CD?
WeaponSwingTimer is the addon. I pickpocket if I'm feeling lazy but generally if you're going to pick pocket you just do the infinite loop every 8 minutes.
@@SwoleBenji
Thanks!
Yeah, sure, but I'm saying, why don't you add the pickpocket as a bonus, included in your room as shown in the video? I.e. just do the loop once, and the guzzler room once, and vendor everything.
Hey what addon do you use to get your blade flurry, sap, slice n dice etc on the screen with a timer?
I use NugRunning.
best rogue guide I've ever seen
real tips from a real fucking rogue
thank you
What’s the addon where you can quick swap your gear like that? The helmet swap?
No idea. Vids probably 5 years old at this point.
miss ya wow vids thought id watch today. good stuff benji style
if you got a pair of decent swords with combat spec and venomous totem you can sap one and tank and spank the other 2 mobs :) can also kill the third one after if you feel like it :p
Does this still work in phasse 6
I usually stealth and unlock the gate then go to plugger and kill him before going to coffers. That eliminates the sprint jump you use a keyboard macro for. Not sure if there's a benefit to doing him last?
What is the addon you use for tracking the cooldowns on your abilities?
What's the name of that addon,? every time you use a skill appears on screen
I think it's called TrufiGCD or SlideBar. I forget. :|
@@SwoleBenji can i do this farm with near pre bis?
what is name of the skeleton trinket and how to obtain it?
So I need to be in engineer and and enchanter? I guess that means I'm buying all my mats for eng on the auction house? Also going to look past that you said enchanting isn't good on any server yet in a previous video.....
Once Large Brilliants are worth more than vendoring the blue it's worth it.
Copy, I'll give it a shot! I'll see you in game!
this still the best way during pre patch for gold as a rogue?
Imo, it is, yes but only if you can find coffer keys. Without coffer keys, you're reduced to pickpocketing which is way more boring. There might be some other guides out there tho..
what is that addon on the bottom right of your screen? the one that shows some of your gear and allows you to switch gear from it
GearMenu
wow coffer keys are WAY more expensive on my server... they're always 30s+ EACH
I bulk buy mine on weekday mornings for 2.5-4g each and then re-list for 5g. If they don't sell I cancel 3 auctions and go farm for about 50 minutes.
This is way late but the avarage value of 100 of those relic coffers was ~77 silver each (for me)
love it, now one question. how do u open the big black gate in the end there? its locked for me after ive done all the bosses
The gate near the entrance? Lockpicking. If you mean the small square vault in the center of the room, you gotta inspect the portrait in the other room, click the name plate, and then go kill the mob that spawns, grab a dark coffer key, and it'll have sometimes a random mid level green and a bind on pickup item used for libram enchants.
@@SwoleBenji yeah I found out. im doing this with pre bis gear. manageable with thistle tea on HP pots. not doing it as fast as u, but it gives more than enough gold. the thing is that these BRD runs are entertaining and fun, u have to use ur brain, and that's something most gold farming is missing :)
Would this be viable as combat daggers? Have perds and core hound plus tier 1+2.Or would it be easier just equipping a blue sword?.
Thanks great video
I cant say for a fact, but i think combat daggers would still work really well as long as you can pump dps
If you could level only one style of engineering, which one would you pick- Gnomish or Goblin? I don’t have the stomach to level both.
I prefer goblin. Though it's super cheap to level and only takes a few hours.
one thing ive found is that the venemous totem is a sick cooldown for killing a lot of these bosses.
If I ever see one drop I gotta try this!
Nice guide, man! Thank you, gonna check it out.
Could you recommend any program for creating keyboard macro to make that jump?
AutoIt or AutoHotkey is the standard one.
Wait, what? Can’t you get banned for that?!
if im not geared enough to kill these bosses / not willing to respec into the prefered specs, is pickpocketing still the best way to make gold as a rogue?
I'd say farm elementals or the body parts from Blasted Lands but it really depends on the economy. Pickpocketing is just super lazy mode farming.
Will u drop mining for enchanting? Im thinking about it also...but crystals are good..
mining is only good if you manage to be extremely lucky with crystals.
I will after next BWL clear. Mining will still be kinda okay profit during AQ opening but will plummet forever till next expansions.
SwoleBenji and you think prices on arcane crystals will go down soon?
@@eddie4691 No idea, but it's not a sustainable market unless you're the only one combing Silithus and Winterspring for 'em.
Whats the WA/addon that tracks your blade flurry and SND?
I use NugRunning.
@@SwoleBenji okey man thanks alot. Already using nug combo and nug energy tick so totally missed this one :)
Just got the Grimoire :) what button do you press to control the skeleton?
It auto follows you and aggros the closest mob. No pet bar unfortunately.
Could a hemo prep build work if you’re well geared ? And does the 100g+ come from disenchant or can you just vendor the bops
Gonna need blade flurry really. It's 100+ through vendoring but enchanting pushes it up to 140+ if your servers economy deems enchanting materials worth it.
can do that ungeared 2 rogues? cuz no time to raid
look this world chat in the beginning XD
Any options of doing this with green/blue gear on fresh 60?
Skip the vault boss and only do Loregrain and Plugger. Or get world buffs then attempt them.
@@SwoleBenji when I will get my subscription back I will!
@@SwoleBenji would it even be worth it just for those 2?
@@okitsalex If you like doing it. The best farms are the ones you can stand doing for long periods of time without feeling like it's a chore.
Alexandros Panayi I’m just starting the BRD farm and I pickpocket the arena and guzzler, kill plugger and then do just the coffers. Last run got me 17g and took 18 min. It’s a start.
how do u open central vault? u need a special key for it, not the regular ones
You gotta examine a portrait on the wall in the previous room of the vaults then kill a dark keeper that spawns in.
i swap in fire res gear for the first boss + fire reflector so i can reflect his fireball for more dmg. sap one, evasion, blade flurry. I was doing this while I was in blues with sword of zeal and the offhand lightsaber. now that i think about it, spazzring was slightly challenging but thats because I didn't know the fight very well. if you dont know how to do the fight, bring a shadow prot pot. it might save u from dying from the dot.
to get past the dog, u can precast grenade on the dog and sprint thru while throwing grenade, then u can vanish out of its stealth detection range.
you can also kill the goblin that drops a 16 slot bag (soulbound) for more money, stand on the ledge overlooking the goblin next to spazzring and shoot one of the kronies. stay on the ledge and wait for them to reset. when they reset, shoot a kronie again immediately. the goblin will still be running back at this point. if u did it correctly, the goblin should not aggro. wait for the kronies to come back half way and then shoot the goblin. meet him at the ramp and make sure u have ks/gouge/blind because he runs fast af! you must do this BEFORE killing spazzring. GL, hope this helps.
@@stickyplays8809 whats the name of the goblin?
What's the addon or weak aura that shows the skills you used?
TrufiGCD is the name of the addon.
@@SwoleBenji And what is the addon that shows the timer on your abilities i.e. SnD, Blade Flurry, ...?
Thank you!
Is engineering mandatory if you have bwl bis gear?
I'm in full bloodfang and I don't need it at all for farming. It's a nice safety net though.
Is there an alternative if you don't have the book?
You don't need the book, but you can use a dragonling or a chicken, but you can also just muscle it if you have good evasion RNG. I just find the summon helps.
How viable is this without engineering or the two offhand items, pouch and book?
You don't need 'em, but sure makes things easier.
having a bit of trouble doing coffer room without the offhand, any tips?
@@wesleyluong7014 Depending on your gear you might have to just nuke Stilgis and vanish then wait on cooldowns. Arcanite dragonling or battle chicken work but aren't as tanky.
thanks benji, great guide mate
So you dropped mining to take enchanting?
I will after next BWL clear if no one needs me to smelt.
Whenever i try and blind Verek it just says "immune". Seems weird.
I don't mention to ever use blind on any of the fights. Stuff's expensive and cuts into your profits. :|
@@SwoleBenji U blind him in your video though. Just wondered why it wasn't working for me.
Yeah in the worst case scenario I had to. You probably tried to blind him when he enraged, which I think is at 20% health.
@@SwoleBenji no i tried to blind him right away. It doesn't work for me :) he is immune it says.
is there a addon i can get to tell me what disenchants to into what? i restarted windows and now enchantrix isnt a thing ;D
I use enchantrix bundled with auctioneer. I don't know any other way.
SwoleBenji thanks
what spec u using
I was using a raid dagger spec in this video. It's shown very early on, on-screen at 0:58
get a shadow reflector for even easier plugger
Can I easily do that in pre raid gear?
I don't recommend it.
Why would you 5cp s&d?
Highest DPS from what I've tested out of hundreds of runs.
i cant kill stilgiss my gear isnt that bad but the dog just shreds me so i dont know what to do
Use a summon to tank the dog while you ready up burst, use evasion when the dog aggro's you. It's hard to do at first but with practice it becomes simple. If the dog doesn't die from your cooldowns you'll have to gouge kite it. In the video I show a worst case scenario. Most of the time I can blow both up. If your gear is weak you can't really do this farm.
@@SwoleBenji any suggestions for summons i dont really know/have any atm
i am full t1 so i should be able to do it
@@smokeythebear3399 What's your main hand though and are you using a proper spec? For summons, there's barov peasant caller, gnomish battle chicken, mechanical dragonling, the dog whistle from SM Library, the Winterfall exalted trinket, the books that summon skeletons, and a quest chain that summons a felhunter.
SwoleBenji I was using combat daggers but with sword OH had dragon fang blade and warblade of hakkari and thanks for all the help I really enjoy ur vids
Also n e a t guides keep it up, hope u'll get new phone soon, I know this feel.
ty you helped me a lot!
anyone know how to do stilgiss without the ancient book?? seems like thats a big component to doing it successfully
Anyone know if changing from gnomish to goblin engineering is bugged?
i spend a fuckton of time in brd and still learned a good bit from your video, and im now making more money than i was. thanks!
Im missing engineering and the other items he uses, meaning i can't kill the bosses in the relic coffer room. This is putting me a around 50 g/h, any tips on what i could do?
You can always vanish after blowing up stilgis and wait on cooldowns. That's what I used to have to do before I got geared.
I cant make the jump..
Is there an other way around it?
Take the long route by unlocking the shadowforge lock and walking. :(
What gear is req ?
I'd say at least tier 1, but when dungeon set 0.5 comes out (Darkmantle) that should be fine.
You can just adrenaline rush blade flurry the boss and all his guys down np.
Hello bro rogue race orc and undead?
I like undead for cannibalize but a lot of people like orc for the stun resist in pvp. I personally hate the way orcs look.
Orc is way better for rogue vs rogue pvp and orc is also better for PVE
female orc is bis
So relic coffer keys are more than 5g a stack on my server. how would you recommend I.. Farm? them? lol. just kill guys in BRD? seems not efficient at all.
If you have a mage they're easy to farm.
was a bit annoying to see that i need a logitech gaming keyboard macro to do that jump lol. otherwise nice vid
Also need the best gear for a rogue :D
Full Tier 2, drake fang talisman, hand of justice, strikers mark, prestors connivery amulet, the nefarian ring, band of accuria, chromatically tempered sword, maladath.
@@SwoleBenji Master dragonslayer ring?
@@jonaspearson7435 Yeah
@@Zluul pve sucks
@@SwoleBenji Is this for both dagger and swords rogues? I'm a dagger rogue and was wondering the same thing. Also, I haven't leveled my engineering yet, nor do I have the skeleton trinket from Ony. I have 4 pieces of t1 and t2 helm. Is it best if I skipped the first boss with the 2 saps as well as the veric mob in vault?
dont sell LBS atm, they willl go up next patch
What is lbs? Fresh 60 btw
@@luisgerardo6407 large brilliant shard
Good vid, but low level shards on my server is 50s. Not worth
Large Brilliant / Greater Eternal are the ones you get from the harder bosses.
Grim-warr ya goof
I'll forget then say it wrong again tomorrow. ;_;
Just keep saying it wrong, I dont see anything wrong with it :D
OMG even just watching I got triggered HOW FUCKING BAD/UNRELIABLE VANISH IS.
just wanted to say im proud of u son and i love u i cant believe u came out my balls
My parents found me abandoned under a rock, rofl.
Or you know ... just blind the 2nd mob? :P
That cuts into profits. Blinding powder is basically 20 silver on my server.
@@SwoleBenji but then you can just throw in the occasional pick pocket farming and get the blinding powder from the junkboxes
Mate, dont burp in your videos. Really enjoying your content but...burping?
burb. gross. downvoted for leaving the burb in. otherwise good stuff.
You sound like Rags ^^
Don't know who that is. :(
Oh boyy
i guess this is not worth if u dont have the skeleton off hand or the pouch or that macro for the jump... wasted gold for respec. thank you!
You can do it without any of those. The first Verek fight was a "worst case scenario" moment and what I had to do to recover without waiting 5 minutes on cooldowns.
@@SwoleBenji so how do u kill verek without pouch or skeleton? i can just kill stilgiss and vanish
if u need 5 min every time u kill a boss is not 100g/h anymore, so u really need skeleton and pouch and the script macro to be anywhere near 100g/h, just saying
@@aag99993 You just open on Stilgis and burn him down and if RNG isn't against you Verek will be like 20% or so, then you gouge and bandage and finish him off. You don't need a macro to jump the gap I just use it to never miss my jump timing. All you have to do is press space bar immediately after pressing W to do a forward running jump. I just macro it so I never fat finger or it accidentally do a short hop. The skeleton is just a diversion until you start cleaving but you can just tank Verek. I simply do it to reduce the RNG factor is all.
1 like for 1 take lol
100 gold? omg kkk
First
Just blind the dog and vanish after way quicker.
Blind costs money, vanish costs 5 minutes cause you have to vanish the vault guy or you'll fight the stone golems with him. So not quicker.
@@SwoleBenji Why would blinding powder even cost 1 silver ? It's free either through pickpocket or herbalism. You have 2 vanishes with prep...Are you new to rogue ?
@Shinn18 Iff you are gold farming respec cost is easy to cover between raids. Why wouldn't you be ?
This all seems way more complicated than it needs to be.
What parts? I tried to make this as simple as possible. That's my entire goal. What can I do to make it more simple and easy to absorb?
SwoleBenji I guess it depends on gear but for pyro you all you need to do is sap and then BF him and the add. Stilgres and verek same thing. Also use ice reflector on him which helps lot. But again I’m not saying you’re wrong but I guess people with different gear/professions can do it differently
@@bradracine3426 If I don't rocket helm the Loregrain ad and it starts spamming spells it hurts really bad, and I've had runs where I chain miss (12% hit) or get crit a bunch and that one add was the deciding factor in having to bail. I don't think it's worth when RNG goes bad as the rocket helm is a 100% win rate VS a 90% win rate. Sure the add drops silver, cloth, and sometimes trash loot but not worth it to me. I also wanted the vid to be more accessible to lesser geared rogues. I'm the most geared rogue on my server right now but I imagine a lot of my audience is still working on their dungeon sets.
I find Ice Reflector a waste cause one frostbolt is 550 damage where as Maelstrom procs 3-5 times a fight which is 900 avg damage over 100 runs, beating ice reflector.
@1:45 Yet you keep ignoring Adrenaline Rush and talk complete NONSENCE
Ok, listen... This is the FIRST TIME in my life i will comment on a video! I have never commented a video before, whether i like it or not.BUT THIS SHAMELESS BULL***T RIGHT HERE NEEDS EXPLANATION!
To the Karls and Trevors coming to defend this Pepega, here is the 2ND time he does that @2:38 . I stop watching right here
I clearly explain in the video if I use adrenaline rush there it's still on cooldown for the next fight which NEEDS adrenaline rush. Verek and Stilgis is very tough without it and you can run there long before it goes off cooldown hence why I don't use it.