Major expansion of light sport aircraft coming! MOSAIC explained

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  • @TreDeuce-qw3kv
    @TreDeuce-qw3kv Рік тому +48

    Big thanks to the AOPA for their efforts on our behalf.

    • @Jkur2009
      @Jkur2009 Рік тому +2

      Definitely! Thank you AOPA!!🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

  • @chriso847
    @chriso847 Рік тому +73

    I’ve been a Sport pilot for 8 years and over 500 hours and owner of various Light Sport planes. These changes look great. Better safety and better for manufacturers. This should entice even more people to fly under the sport pilot privileges.

    • @BLAMBERRY
      @BLAMBERRY Рік тому +9

      Its almost unbelievable how great this news is.

    • @whiffy506
      @whiffy506 Рік тому +2

      I'm close to my final checkride for my PPL but man....I've always been a fan of aerobatics, unfortunately there are no schools here that teach it. I can't die without doing a barrel roll first dang it!

    • @lukewarm1217
      @lukewarm1217 Рік тому +2

      Why do u say better for manufacturers? Hopefully the old 1320# lsa prices will come down.

    • @jimwalden8617
      @jimwalden8617 Рік тому

      ⁠go to red Stewart airfield for acrobatics training. 2:42 2:44

    • @thecfiguy6177
      @thecfiguy6177 11 місяців тому

      @@whiffy506 where are you at? We can do an aerobatics lesson at KPSM

  • @TooooManyHobbies
    @TooooManyHobbies Рік тому +18

    This is so great. I can't get a PPL due to med but the current LSA/LSP restrictions weren't really worth the cost. This might change that equation to something I can work with. Thanks for putting this together for us.

  • @Max_Janszen
    @Max_Janszen Рік тому +13

    YES YES YES this is exactly what I was hoping for, thank you all so much for your hard work I am SO EXCITED to get my sport pilot now

  • @user-nf5fi5uj7w
    @user-nf5fi5uj7w Рік тому +19

    About time. I am 89 and flying under BasicMed which has to be renewed in 4/25. If this passes and effective end of 2024 I will slide right into it. Flew Sport Pilot in Ercoupe and Skycatcher for years before Basic Med.

  • @nea273
    @nea273 Рік тому +13

    This is awesome. I have been waiting over 3 years for this. The closest LSA school to rent LSA around me is almost 4 hours away. With this new rule, my closest flying school (with 172) is 25 minutes away. I am glad I didn't pursue my Class 3 medical. I missed that boat in 2005 when I left the Army.
    Let's fly!!!
    (responsibly)

  • @Jason-iz6ob
    @Jason-iz6ob Рік тому +21

    I’m a private pilot. But not current. This sounds great. It would be much easier to get back current as a light sport than a PPL I think. I wish they’d up it to 2 passengers though.

    • @Sniper_Man_Clips
      @Sniper_Man_Clips 9 місяців тому

      It is you can your one of the passengers in their eyes

  • @arpeltier
    @arpeltier Рік тому +12

    I have my PPL, and I’m building an experimental, so the sport pilot stuff doesn’t apply to me now, but looking forward to seeing how manufacturers respond to this. I could see a huge expansion in modern GA aircraft now that they’re not so limited. Wonderful news!

    • @phillp7777
      @phillp7777 11 місяців тому +1

      soo.. but is that rly good for Safety everybody's safety ?
      don't think so

  • @Greghoylman
    @Greghoylman Рік тому +8

    I'm looking forward to my flight lessons as a sport pilot and the Privileges I will inherit thank you so much

  • @fkhan577
    @fkhan577 Рік тому +17

    If you can fly a Cessna 172 and maybe a 182 under the new LSA rules you should be able to carry more than one passenger. May be tie that your total hours e.g. first 200 hours only one passenger, two passengers after 300 hrs and fill all four seats after 400 hrs TT ….

    • @aztecwarrior1421
      @aztecwarrior1421 Рік тому +2

      Makes sense!

    • @aztecwarrior1421
      @aztecwarrior1421 Рік тому +1

      I would support flying with addition passengers based on 100 of hours flown , for example after your first 100 hours you should be able to fly with yourself, of course plus one, after achieving 200 hours of flight time yourself pluses two, for a maximum of 3 passengers. If

  • @rickclayburn9111
    @rickclayburn9111 Рік тому +7

    Been waiting for this. Great news.

  • @jeremylauer5234
    @jeremylauer5234 Рік тому +10

    i didn't see any change for ceiling limitations, currently set to 10,000 MSL or 2,000 AGL.

    • @Airbornejordan
      @Airbornejordan Рік тому +1

      I have been wondering this exact same question. I have "skimmed" over the n.p.r.m. and did not see it. I am not entirely sure that it is covered. In my opinion, why not? As long you understand oxygen , more altitude is safer, and as a bonus faster.

  • @DrDirigible
    @DrDirigible Рік тому +2

    Thanks. Been waiting for this for ten years!

  • @classicraceruk1337
    @classicraceruk1337 Рік тому +5

    We need the CAA to implement this. It’s a brilliant change to the regulations.

  • @rustyheckler8766
    @rustyheckler8766 Рік тому +9

    Wow, that 54 knts stall speed opens up a lot of GA aircraft to sports pilots, I wonder if there are any other limiting factors?

    • @BLAMBERRY
      @BLAMBERRY Рік тому +5

      If you haven’t read the proposal you should. Retractable gear, constant speed propellers, 4 seats, 250 kt speed limits, self certification by kit manufacturers-its unbelievable how great this news is!

  • @billkinzler3773
    @billkinzler3773 Рік тому +1

    As cirrus instrument pilot and the increasing costs and parts back up, I will be interested in models of LSA with the increased weight and speed that bring newer technologies (auto pitch, electronic ignition, upgraded panels) and allow more owners to service their own airplanes. Big win for pilots. Thanks AOPA!

  • @mikeryan6277
    @mikeryan6277 Рік тому +5

    It’s been a long time coming, and it looks like you guys were the first to get the news out there.

    • @mauriceevans6546
      @mauriceevans6546 Рік тому

      Actually Dan Johnson site was the first to report

    • @mikeryan6277
      @mikeryan6277 Рік тому

      @@mauriceevans6546 can you provide a link, I have looked for it but only see the ones from 2022

    • @mikeryan6277
      @mikeryan6277 Рік тому

      @@mauriceevans6546 Dan Johnson has not yet put out a video on the NPRM . Fake News.

  • @venutoa
    @venutoa Рік тому +8

    Government needs to get out of way. They make aviation more dangerous. Huge overreach as always ...no benefit whatsever.

    • @sirlancair
      @sirlancair 10 місяців тому +1

      my uneducated guess but increasingly cynical view of any bureacracy, is that their purpose is not about the overt descriptors in the name or mission statement....it's about regulating for the purpose of preferential treatment for companies and persons who grease the wheels. Look how few regular people actually benefited from the original lsa rules. Rather...all the caveats, exceptions, limitations to every single clause , is daunting to read, let alone put into practice...and I suspect each limit benefits one of the manufacturers above the lsa category..

    • @venutoa
      @venutoa 10 місяців тому

      @@sirlancair precisely. Motivated by $$$

    • @gsneff
      @gsneff 3 місяці тому

      @@sirlancairprimary purpose of a bureaucracy is to maintain the need for it’s existence and to expand its power. Dr. Thomas Sowell who was a Marxist coming out of college discovered this when he went to work for government. He pointed out all sorts of ways they could permanently solve the problems his agency was tasked with and the higher ups explained why they would not consider his ideas. If they solved the problem they would all be out of a job.

  • @lardal1502
    @lardal1502 6 місяців тому +2

    FAA has to do something because GA is dying a rapid death. As a Canadian recreational pilot (diabetic) we can fly any 4 place ,non high performance plane. Maybe as a result of this we will be able to fly over 200hp and at night. It would be nice to get up to 200knots.

  • @kraftwurx_Aviation
    @kraftwurx_Aviation Рік тому +4

    What about the provisions to eliminate the 50% rule for Kit Aircraft????

  • @djwashx
    @djwashx Рік тому +3

    great video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @murdocks8242
    @murdocks8242 Рік тому +1

    Great Job AOPA! I am so excited to see some of these regulations reduced.

  • @ThePudgie123
    @ThePudgie123 Рік тому +3

    This is exciting!

  • @jameskerns717
    @jameskerns717 Рік тому +2

    Night: Per the proposal you need either a medical or basic med to fly at night as a Sport Pilot - pretty narrow carve out.

  • @fishman211
    @fishman211 9 місяців тому +2

    Too late for me as I am now 80 but one of the restrictions that kept me out of a sport pilot cockpit was prescription drugs. I wonder if the FAA has considered accepting a broader range of medications for anxiety or depression. The FAA is living in another dimension if they unaware that many pilots can and DO function perfectly well with medications.

  • @Z06C5
    @Z06C5 Рік тому +5

    200 hrs as a Sport pilot. Night vfr and helicopters sound cool. Let’s see what the final rules are!

    • @jeremylauer5234
      @jeremylauer5234 Рік тому +2

      i have seen somewhere that Night endorsement will be allowed but the pilot will be required to hold either 3rd class or BasicMed medical.

    • @JoeCnNd
      @JoeCnNd Рік тому +1

      ​@jeremylauer5234 if they have to get a class 3 then they're better off to just get the private. What I read is you will have to get endorsed.

    • @PuppyDogPilot
      @PuppyDogPilot Рік тому

      @@jeremylauer5234 That is what the NPRM says.

  • @johnnewell2624
    @johnnewell2624 Рік тому +2

    Great job AOPA!

  • @Mike-01234
    @Mike-01234 Рік тому +3

    I have been working on an attempt to get a medical certificate I haven't actually submitted anything with the FAA yet, but now with a real future for light sport I probably will just go that route. Not that I can't pass a medical just the out-of-pocket expense and the fact that I don't want to live my life always in fear of seeing a doctor. The only issues I see is getting insurance will the insurance industry welcome these changes, or will they be a problem.

  • @roysonparsons3300
    @roysonparsons3300 Рік тому +6

    A basic observation. The proposed rules look like they will improve things for us sport pilots, easier access, higher performance airplanes etc. But it seems silly to suggest that less oversight, and things like constant speed props, retractable landing gear, and higher cruise speeds will improve safety. Decades of data show the opposite. Slow, simple GA airplanes kill fewer pilots than fast complicated GA airplanes. Am I happy about the proposed changes? Definitely. Do I think safety will be improved? Nope

  • @hefeibao
    @hefeibao 7 місяців тому

    Holy smokes! Lots of information presented clearly. Can't wait and thanks for sharing this. :)

  • @aztecwarrior1421
    @aztecwarrior1421 Рік тому +7

    I would support carrying more than 1 passengers based on 100s of hours flown

  • @deanmiles3505
    @deanmiles3505 Рік тому +2

    This is all good but the faa really need to address ultralight aircraft. They need to allow more reliable engines, brakes would be nice, and a little more fuel capacity for a better flight time/experience. The allowable weight needs to increase to accommodate the safer aircraft that would be created.They should be made safer.
    Thank you.
    Take care,
    Be safe.

  • @DougBow96
    @DougBow96 Рік тому +3

    Excellent news!

  • @wareairaviationservicesllc4933

    CAR3 Vintage aircraft needs a carve out so we can modernize our aircraft considering almost all of the previous STCs are no longer supported. These aircraft have been orphaned by the FAA, they are not Part 23 aircraft and now experimental are safer and we can not upgrade our aircraft easily.
    I have posted comments to the NPRM and I would LUV if other Vintage owners did the same.

  • @speedomars
    @speedomars Рік тому +5

    The essence of this is to allow the old guys with basic med to keep flying under light sport and keep their Pipers, Cessnas and Bonanzas going.

  • @DC8Super72
    @DC8Super72 Рік тому +2

    About time!

  • @tonysimi5763
    @tonysimi5763 Рік тому +2

    Yea!

  • @christophergaus3996
    @christophergaus3996 Рік тому +1

    Thank you, this is incredible news!!! 🛫

  • @tomdchi12
    @tomdchi12 Рік тому +5

    Because I haven’t paid enough attention to Light Sport I think I’m a bit unclear on a few things. It seems (but I’m not entirely sure) that there is a disconnect where yes, Light Sport pilot privileges have expanded, but the Light Sport Aircraft category has expanded a great deal. (As in a Cirrus isn’t too far outside what was described, I think?) I’m looking forward to your further coverage once a bit more digesting is done. Thanks!

    • @dh-flies
      @dh-flies Рік тому

      And so forth and so on....

    • @GeneralChangFromDanang
      @GeneralChangFromDanang Рік тому

      It sounds like they are doing away with the Light Sport category altogether, and rather changing the limits on what Sport Pilots may fly.

  • @manifestgtr
    @manifestgtr 10 місяців тому +1

    Personally, the *only* thing I’ve wanted to see in LSA is a slight uptick in the weight limitation to include aircraft like the 152, the tomahawk, etc. That would expand, by SO MUCH, the practical aircraft that LSA pilots can access. And let’s be real, if you can operate a 162, you can absolutely operate a 152 or a tomahawk.

  • @pilotmiami1
    @pilotmiami1 Рік тому +1

    Bravo.thenks

  • @westpearson6759
    @westpearson6759 Рік тому +3

    Does AOPA have any insight into what some of the manufacturers are doing/planning to take advantage of the new rules?

  • @themavericks9409
    @themavericks9409 Рік тому +1

    I wish they would also open basic med to allow some commercial operations such as being able to give rides

  • @Marchetti7
    @Marchetti7 Рік тому +3

    so what will be the difference between sport, recreational and ppl if this rule gets implemented, other than ppl can fly with more than one passenger?

  • @wayneyd2
    @wayneyd2 Рік тому +2

    I wish they would add kit helicopters to the light sport category.

  • @Mobev1
    @Mobev1 Рік тому +3

    So after reading this will the current light sports be able to go faster just by changing the prop pitch . I think these same light sports in Europe go faster. Thanks.

  • @DerickMasai
    @DerickMasai Рік тому +2

    What airplane is that on the thumbnail? The colour scheme is exquisite!

  • @JB_Hobbies
    @JB_Hobbies Рік тому +9

    I hope these new manufacturing rules make ga more affordable.

  • @Jeffgold23454
    @Jeffgold23454 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for the great news!

  • @flywiseman
    @flywiseman Рік тому +2

    So I can fly my Tripacer under light sport when this passes? Sweet!!

  • @bradrobinhancock8491
    @bradrobinhancock8491 Рік тому +10

    As a student pilot (yes, at 60), I have toyed with the idea of LSA and sport pilot certification. The LSA category was supposed to have lowered the price point for entry into GA, but it HAS NOT (really) made much of a difference. With the expanded definition of LSA under MOSAIC, now the 152, and possible 172 will fall into that category. I may rethink my continuation as PP and look into LS Pilot. I already fly under Basic Med.
    Does AOPA ever venture into the Part 103 arena? With MOSAIC expanding LSA, Part 103 needs to be revisited too! 55 KIAS for top performance? That's so dated!
    It is renewal time for my AOPA membership too. The fact that they have been working on expanding rules to make GA more approachable, and affordable to us geezers who've always wanted to fly just may influence my decision to renew.

    • @aztecwarrior1421
      @aztecwarrior1421 Рік тому

      68

    • @daricksta08
      @daricksta08 Рік тому +4

      AOPA and others (Dan Johnson) have unofficially been told, you may not want to venture into Part 103 revisions, because it is overly generous currently (regulations are less than a page) and with today's litigious society, the NPRM may come back LESS favorable.

    • @bradrobinhancock8491
      @bradrobinhancock8491 Рік тому +2

      @@aztecwarrior1421 aztec warrior 1421 says "68". I agree. 68 kts (78 mph) top airspeed makes better sense than 55 kts (63 mph). That at least gets you to the average pattern speed of most aircraft on the downwind. It also makes some limited cross country flights achievable during daylight hours.

    • @bradrobinhancock8491
      @bradrobinhancock8491 Рік тому +2

      @@daricksta08 To be honest, all I'd like to see is the top airspeed increased some (10-20%), and a doubling of fuel capacity. Would being able to cruise along at 70 to 80 mph with 10 gallons of gas be that much more dangerous than the current limits? Not asking for two seats, not asking for night flight capability, not asking for permission to fly above 10K feet. Would I be heartbroken if the tradeoff was for the pilot to at least pass a written exam, have a hand-held transceiver on board, or hold a valid motor vehicle license? Not in the least. Doubling fuel capacity is a safety measure (how many landing strips have MoGas?), and allowing the Part 103 vehicle to operate at almost the same speed as motor vehicles below them are small changes that would enhance the ultralight experience. I do see LSA manufacturers grumbling though! That would cut into what was supposed to be *their* target demographic. I am seriously considering the Merlin Lite. With all-metal construction, it's an inexpensive turn-key option. I would love for the slightly more capable Merlin to fall under the Part 103 rules, but "it's too fast" and "carries too much fuel", even though it is a single-seater two-cylinder aircraft. Buying the complete Merlin Lite package at about $34K sure beats finishing my flight training at $250 per hour, and then trying to find a serviceable aircraft that is "in annual" and not at TBO.

    • @bradrobinhancock8491
      @bradrobinhancock8491 Рік тому

      @@abel4776 I don't understand any part of your reply.
      " Isn't 250 max below Class A?" I am talking about Ultralight restrictions. I cannot think of a single ultralight with a service ceiling above 15,000' MSL, so yes, I am usually in Class E or G airspace. Apparently you aren't familiar with the regulations for ultralight "vehicles". So, let us open the 2023 FAR/AIM (Gleim Edition) to page 243. 14CFR Part 103: Ultralight Vehicles. Subpart A, Section 103.1, Applicability. (e) If powered, (3) is not capable of more than 55 knots calibrated airspeed at full power in level flight. That ridiculously low airspeed is what I would like to see raised to at least 70 knots. Nowhere near 250. It is truly amusing to be cruising along above a secondary road here in Central Texas and watch the cars and trucks below you zip along faster that you. It also creates an issue when flying the pattern into an untowered airfield. I know that every C-150/152, C-172 and PA-28 I had flown in flight school adhered to the 70 kt downwind, 60 kt base and final speed recommendation. Now throw someone in the pattern at 40 knots downwind, and the pattern rhythm is disturbed. My downwind is 40 knots, base and final can be as low as 32 knots (24 X 1.3). The "power off" stall speed required by 103.1 (e) (4) is 24 kts. or less. As a workaround to this speed disparity, the FAA recommended pattern altitude for ultralights is 500' AGL (See Advisory Circular AC 90-66C). Section 12 explicitly details the pattern for ULVs. So now imagine the disparity of altitudes at a normal untowered airport in my area. Let's pick KGDJ, KSEP or KCPT. Each of those has normal piston-engine planes (1,000' AGL) turbine-powered airplanes (1,500'AGL) and a few ULVs at 500' AGL. Speed on final can be anywhere from 32 kts. to 125 kts. If the ULV could be allowed higher airspeed, then the normal pattern would be no problem. We would be able to slip to slough off speed to a safe landing velocity during short-final.
      Fuel capacity isn't a limit anyways." Incorrect. Absolutely incorrect. Again, let us read from the book of rules. 14CFR Part 103. Subpart A, Section 103.1, (e) (2) - Has a fuel capacity not exceeding 5 U.S. gallons. At a cruise fuel burn rate of 1.5 gph for the most efficient engines, you will have only about 2-1/2 hours of cruise time. I base this on having a 1/2 hr fuel reserve, which is not required by the regulations, but I figure it is conservative and should be observed just as if it was a Part 91 VFR Day flight (91.151). So if you are somehow able to maintain 62 mph ground speed (no head/cross wind) then you are good for only 150 miles. When it is time to refuel, your options are very limited. Almost every ULV out there uses MoGas. A good percentage of them are two-cycle engines. 100LL will foul the plugs in a hurry in those low compression engines. If you can fin 94UL, it will be at a larger, towered airfield (i.e. KACT). They don't want us there to gum up the pattern, so no entry into their precious Class D. The excuse they use is that we don't even have Mode C transponders on board, too small to track as a radar contact, etc. Ten gallons. All I ask is for a doubling of the fuel capacity. That opens up limited cross country adventures for those of us with tiny pockets.

  • @deani2431
    @deani2431 Рік тому +5

    Hopefully you can get Canada to adopt some of these changes, particularly when it comes to accepting BasicMed and the medical requirements for a Sport Pilot.

  • @duckdogers4438
    @duckdogers4438 8 місяців тому

    Thank you, AOPA

  • @atypocrat1779
    @atypocrat1779 Рік тому +1

    Talked to FAA guy at Oshkosh. Said there was a 90 day comment period. Then another 16 months before a rule making. So basically never gonna happen

  • @HelloWorldETX
    @HelloWorldETX Рік тому +7

    The 10,000 MSL 2000 AGL altitude limit makes light sport limitations incredibly dangerous for any pilot in the western states.

  • @bbt305
    @bbt305 7 місяців тому

    Best news of the year!!!

  • @GeneralChangFromDanang
    @GeneralChangFromDanang Рік тому +1

    This is exciting. Looking forward to flying a stronger plane that can handle more than 15kts crosswind.

  • @user-kp2fc2dp8e
    @user-kp2fc2dp8e Рік тому +2

    Good news, but don't think for a minute this will reduce the cost of flying. Aviation like all business follows the law of supply and demand. As the demand for aircraft increases so will the price. Look what COVID did to light GA aircraft prices, new or used.

  • @DrewHanks2083
    @DrewHanks2083 7 місяців тому +1

    This is awesome news for me. I thought my dream of flying could never be achieved. I was discharged from the Marine Corps for epilepsy so I know I could never pass the medical.

  • @erikpetersen3812
    @erikpetersen3812 Рік тому +3

    And ... are the insurance companies going to write policies for this new rulemaking?

  • @ArizonaAirspace
    @ArizonaAirspace Рік тому +2

    If this passes, then Robinson R22s and light twins like Duchess should qualify as well.

  • @mauriceevans6546
    @mauriceevans6546 Рік тому +5

    Very disappointing if a sport pilot will need a medical to fly at night

  • @jimmyn1544
    @jimmyn1544 Рік тому +2

    What about experimental amateur built that meet the new criteria will those fall under the new light sport category? Or will it be only for factory built?

    • @chetmyers7041
      @chetmyers7041 Рік тому

      I thought a homebuilt Vans RV-12 was eligible for Sport Pilots today?

  • @nea273
    @nea273 Рік тому +3

    Pilots, let's take a victory lap. Don't be pushy, nagging about trivial things. A win is a win.

  • @antoniosilveira2108
    @antoniosilveira2108 11 місяців тому

    Professional approach, congratulation!!

  • @philipmcbride1275
    @philipmcbride1275 Рік тому +3

    Nice to see IFR certification is possible too.

    • @JoeCnNd
      @JoeCnNd Рік тому

      For a sport pilot or just the plane?

    • @philipmcbride1275
      @philipmcbride1275 Рік тому

      @@JoeCnNd Removing the limitation on the plane, but still assuming IFR rated pilot.

    • @JoeCnNd
      @JoeCnNd Рік тому

      @@philipmcbride1275 OK, I was hoping you meant sport pilot could go for ifr rating now.

    • @oneninerniner3427
      @oneninerniner3427 Рік тому

      Although an IFR rating could be a safety factor for pilots that encounter inadvertent IMC or get stuck on top. If a sport pilot were to take the time & have the funds to get it. And not necessarily to go up in IMC conditions, just if you got caught in them. And I wonder if that's how a lot of private rated pilots with an IFR endorsement treat it anyway. Idk maybe I'm all wet.

    • @philipmcbride1275
      @philipmcbride1275 Рік тому +1

      @@oneninerniner3427 Agree. It's really smart to push to get IFR rating, even if your minimums mostly keep you out of IMC. Great to have the knowledge and experience to handle it. And funnily enough, often easier to fly IFR even on nice days.

  • @tayfunozisik8349
    @tayfunozisik8349 Рік тому +6

    Wow it would be so nice to see Skyhawks can be flown with sports pilot privileges.

    • @joelv4495
      @joelv4495 Рік тому

      Yes. The big benefit here is that it opens the door to a sport pilot ticket to every student near a flight school with a 152/172! Finding a school with an SLSA has been quite the challenge!

  • @conradsenior5843
    @conradsenior5843 Рік тому +2

    Wow. But why not 4 people in a four place?

    • @Catpanl
      @Catpanl 6 місяців тому

      To keep passengers from dying if the pilot makes a mistake or has a medical emergency. The rules allow pilots to fly more planes but still not risk more lives.

  • @AV8R_1
    @AV8R_1 Рік тому +2

    With regard to the allowance for sport pilots to fly night VFR, will any specific endorsement be required for private pilots with lapsed medicals who are currently flying under sport pilot rules? Will they need any additional night flying endorsement considering they had already received that as part of their private pilot certification?

  • @xpeterson
    @xpeterson Рік тому +2

    So does this mean that a plane like Mikes Scrappy could be a light sport?

  • @damham5689
    @damham5689 Рік тому +2

    Now if aircraft were affordable. And I dont mean a 70 year old one held together with zipties and duct tape, but a good newer aircraft.

  • @flywiseman
    @flywiseman Рік тому +3

    I appreciate the changes but the down fall will be those light 4 place planes that are over priced now will become crazy overpriced

  • @justplanefred
    @justplanefred Рік тому +3

    This is awesome news! It would be nice if there was another stipulation now that sport pilot has been increased to 4 seat aircraft that you could take your up to two children with you as well. So not necessarily 4 adults but two adults and for parents up to two children so the could do family trips or other family outings. Maybe with the caviar that the must live with them at least part time, or maybe not. I don’t know. While getting closer I think this still keep families from enjoying this joyous wonder as a family which could bring more people such as myself to aviation in general. One by exposing more people to it, two because it brings the price down some for families to do it and brings families together.

    • @JoeCnNd
      @JoeCnNd Рік тому +2

      I kind of wonder if it's a focus thing. They don't want too many people talking to distract you.

    • @justplanefred
      @justplanefred Рік тому +1

      @@JoeCnNd that is also a very good point. I can confirm that my one child is a distraction while driving. I’m not a pilot at this time due to not being able to make that into the budget and not really include them in it. At least with some intercom systems I understand that a pilot can isolate themselves so they only hear the radio and there would be another parent in the cockpit to handle the child or children in the example I made. Honestly I believe with them just being in the plane can be a distraction even without being able to hear them. So again you make a very good point and potential counter argument to my example.

    • @dh-flies
      @dh-flies Рік тому +2

      The Government doesn't want to give you too much too fast....

    • @justplanefred
      @justplanefred Рік тому

      @@dh-flies they don’t want to give us nothing… AOPA hasn’t been trying to get this far for years because they are giving everything they ask for.

    • @bernieschiff5919
      @bernieschiff5919 Рік тому +2

      Carrying passengers or family members implies additional responsibility on part of the pilot. Not mentioned are requirements for good judgement and up to date skill levels and scenario-based training. A cautious mindset and reducing risk for passengers is a good approach to have.

  • @TBooneFisher6931
    @TBooneFisher6931 Рік тому +2

    How might this affect ELSA aircraft?

  • @SGTMARSHALL1
    @SGTMARSHALL1 8 місяців тому

    Smart moves based on the future of aircraft

  • @timbacchus
    @timbacchus Рік тому +3

    I guess still you can not change a Cessna 150 to a light sport plane. I have had N5549E for fifty years now and just wonder if you can change it.

    • @429thunderjet2
      @429thunderjet2 Рік тому

      So a 150 will be light sport qualified to be flown by a light sport pilot. But is still a certified aircraft & treated as any other certified aircraft maintenance wise I believe. Does that make sense?

    • @timbacchus
      @timbacchus Рік тому

      @@429thunderjet2 Yep no change for me.

  • @isaackondoh1764
    @isaackondoh1764 6 місяців тому

    THIS IS AWESOME NEWS :)

  • @dieseldan5189
    @dieseldan5189 8 місяців тому

    If the FAA just announced this then that means it will be at least another 10-15 years before any meaningful results will be implemented. We have only been waiting 20 years since unleaded avgas was announced and it was just approved last year.

  • @experimentalairplane
    @experimentalairplane 11 місяців тому

    A minor correction / clarification / addition to the video at 7:00-7:15: Regarding Sport Pilot night limitations, a Third Class medical or Basic Med will be required as proposed.

  • @erikpetersen3812
    @erikpetersen3812 Рік тому +1

    Night VFR will require a current airman medical or Basic Med

    • @oneninerniner3427
      @oneninerniner3427 Рік тому

      So in other words you need a private rating to get an IFR endorsement, Right? Why bother with a sport pilot then, just go for your private, like it is now, so no change there if that's the case.

  • @blainepetsupplies5354
    @blainepetsupplies5354 Рік тому +2

    They should atleast include 2 passengers

  • @randybranson1009
    @randybranson1009 Рік тому +1

    Where can I find a copy of the NPRM available for comment?

  • @backcountyrpilot
    @backcountyrpilot Рік тому +3

    Great news!
    I still don’t understand why a medical is so important for a pilot, but an extremely unhealthy and old
    person can blaze down the freeway with a bunch of kids in the back with an oncoming 18-wheeler 6’
    to the left.

    • @rawdawg15
      @rawdawg15 10 місяців тому

      imagine if they made all drivers have to know all of the mechanical knowledge you learn in ground school. Traffic would cut down fast

  • @AlexanderBingham
    @AlexanderBingham Рік тому +1

    So Happy.... this is going to get me back into flying... I hope that they allow LSAs under the EASA to immediately be eligible.

  • @boldbaldpilot2029
    @boldbaldpilot2029 9 місяців тому

    Can a PPL pilot operating under sports pilots rules be the PIC of an 2-seat experimental, retractable gear, variable pitch prop, that operates at cruise speed of 150 kts? Max gross =1600lbs,

  • @tbone1212
    @tbone1212 Рік тому +2

    I wonder if a Vans RV 4 could fall into this category..

    • @johnlichtenstein6158
      @johnlichtenstein6158 Рік тому

      You’d have to do a little work to get the stall speed down

    • @PuppyDogPilot
      @PuppyDogPilot Рік тому

      I believe if one were to read the proposed Part 61.316 that they deduce that it does. It's on page 296 of the NPRM.

  • @derekgilson9479
    @derekgilson9479 10 місяців тому

    Question, if I go get my pilots license, can I use a light sport aircraft to get my commercial license????
    And why is everyone or utube not answering the question???
    Will you please give me a answer

  • @mhill311
    @mhill311 8 місяців тому

    Will AOPA welcome members who own personal evtols?

  • @A.J.1656
    @A.J.1656 Рік тому

    Does this mean that existing experimental homebuilt airplanes can be built by the manufacturer and sold as LSA's as long as they don't go over 250kts cas and meet the maximum stall speed limitations? For example, can Vans, Rans Sling etc sell a completed airplane as an LSA instead of an experimental?

  • @jzawodn
    @jzawodn Рік тому +2

    This is great news and I'm glad AOPA was heavily involved... but this scripted "interview" format is a pretty slow way to convey the information.

  • @WX4CB
    @WX4CB Рік тому +1

    i just wisxh that they would allow an extra pax... would love to be able to take my missus and dog at the same time.,.... not all the time, but sometimes :D right now the missus has to drive while i take the dog :D

  • @Alex-md5sv
    @Alex-md5sv Рік тому +2

    So can I recetify my cessna 150 as an lsa and then get to do all the maintenance on it since I'm also in LSRM? So dumb that I am allowed to work on much more capable aircraft that are certified as light sport

    • @michaelgill7248
      @michaelgill7248 Рік тому +1

      I don't think so. Your 150 is still a part 23 certified aircraft not LSA, but you can now fly it as a sport pilot.

    • @429thunderjet2
      @429thunderjet2 Рік тому

      Wouldn't it need to be changed to the experimental category for a annual condition inspection with a repairmans ticket, rather than needing it done by an A&P.

  • @gsneff
    @gsneff 3 місяці тому

    There should be no restrictions on passengers so long as they are immediate family at a minimum (ideally any quantity of non commercial passenger). Let LSA pilots take their kids with them on trips.

  • @spambedam
    @spambedam Рік тому +2

    Oh swell. I sold my C150 a few years ago for a bargain price because it wouldn't fit Light Sport rules and now they are talking about C180s and maybe even multi engine? Thanks a lot. At least I won't be limited to the few Light Sport aircraft available under the old rules. Maybe the guy who bought my 150 will consider selling it back. Yeah right. For 3 times what he paid me I bet.

  • @BLAMBERRY
    @BLAMBERRY Рік тому +4

    I just hope the big certified manufacturers(textron/cirrus/diamond) DON’T try to derail this. There is really no need for certified aircraft for VFR pilots anymore.

  • @aztecwarrior1421
    @aztecwarrior1421 Рік тому +1

    Any C150 For Sale?

  • @prilep5
    @prilep5 29 днів тому

    It looks like they are laying legal grounds for electric aircraft to be flown with sport license because we all know they will be heavy and expensive (VTOL)

  • @PuppyDogPilot
    @PuppyDogPilot Рік тому +1

    She states that this is the first modernization of aircraft certification standards in two decades. I guess AOPA missed the Part 23 rewrite. Not to mention the current light sport regulation was released in 2004, which is just 19 years. That second one was just a minor nit but missing Part 23 just a few years ago is a major oversight.

    • @Mobev1
      @Mobev1 Рік тому +1

      Jeeze. I can tell you never owned a business. To detailed focused on nothing to succeed.

  • @scotabot7826
    @scotabot7826 Рік тому +5

    This is AWESOME NEWS!!!!! Hopefully it won't take 10 years to take effect!!!!

    • @JoeCnNd
      @JoeCnNd Рік тому

      Its supposed to be Jan 1st 2024 isn't it?

    • @michaelgill7248
      @michaelgill7248 Рік тому

      @@JoeCnNd I thought they said the end of 2024?

  • @Alex-md5sv
    @Alex-md5sv Рік тому +1

    Give the lsrms permission to work on 150s and 152s