Hearing the clear opinion of spawn as a coach makes me want to have an episode of pro but with 3 coaches instead. Maybe a less popular episode but would be really interesting one to watch.
Between this and when Spawn was on Hotline League, my respect for him has continued to grow. He is so clear with his explanations and reasonings, & it seems like if you were to question him, he would be more than willing to have a full, calm conversation about it. Completely agree with some of the other comments saying that an episode of Pros with Coaches, including Spawn, would be incredibly enjoyable to watch!
Bro our imports are actually giving top tier content. I remember seeing Ignar in the CLG/NRG full team and he was just like…”yeah.” But Castle kinda poppin off.
ignar was fun on other teams, like EG with jiizuke and impact. he did seem weirdly quiet on cam at NRG. and he did choose to leave a championship team, maybe he just didn't like the others.
@@jaexynn jojo was invisible 1st half of the split especially during their losses vs the 2 bottom teams in the league. jojo is only an mvp candidate to people who play favorites. river also shouldn't be in mvp consideration since he inted during key moments in their games way too often, if he were more consistent after 15 mins then maybe. the only 2 people in mvp consideration should be inspired and quid.
I think spawn's point is really valid, but I have to disagree with river being able to play carries well. I feel like him and blaber are polar opposites in terms of play and very meta dependent junglers. Although I will say blaber is much much better on non carry champs compared to when he started off his career. Like I feel like his ivern game against TL was actually fine for the most part (I think him trading flashes with umti was kinda troll tho). However, I feel as if blaber on things like maokai (The guy is like 14-2 on the pick lifetime lol) and sej is where he really excels in terms of tank junglers. River on carry junglers I feel like is super hit or miss and no in between. Seeing his kindred games from last year or his rengar games were truly some of the games of all time lol.
Armao looks bad because his mechanics aren't great. But jungle is a facilitator role and Armao's a great shotcaller. eXyu on the otherhand just looks good and that's about it. I think Impact's 4:05 description is perfect. The dude isn't a jungler. He's more like a guy who got autofilled as jungle. The guy wasn't even a top 5 jungler in academy lol. Iirc he never even hit challenger in Korea lol.
I'm not sure if those last 4 words are meant to insult the content? It feels pretty fast paced to me. besides that, did you not notice that we put the name of the player above the tier list every time someone was ranking one of them?
@@TravisGafford Me talking about bad hearing was bullshit. Didn't expect you to answer. Last words were my personal opinion, I can't understand your angle: how can it be meant as an offence? It wasnt. On paper amount of work seems fine, yet still video felt as a drag. Maybe edits/cuts could've been done better. After putting a player on a chart and moving to a next one I can no longer see their names. Which is a mild, but irritating oversight. In reality I often just listen to stuff and sometimes check the video. I was curious about end results by names and I couldn't understand it by just photos, unless I relisten an entire segment. Have a good one! PS sorry for bad English here, I'm from a phone and I hate texting, too much of a boomer, also English isn't native.
Yeah realistically S tier Inspired A tier Blaber B tier Contractz C tier Exyu D tier Armao / Bugi Dog tier River / Umti No one shits the bed like River and Umti when it matters the most and I can’t get over that. Also River looks like a Korean version of Vector from Despicable Me.
Hearing the clear opinion of spawn as a coach makes me want to have an episode of pro but with 3 coaches instead. Maybe a less popular episode but would be really interesting one to watch.
"Armao D because D for my Dog" lmao Castle is funny af
Dawg
I could listen to spawn talk about the game all day
He's so awesome
I love the Quid/River duo they’re hilarious
Between this and when Spawn was on Hotline League, my respect for him has continued to grow. He is so clear with his explanations and reasonings, & it seems like if you were to question him, he would be more than willing to have a full, calm conversation about it. Completely agree with some of the other comments saying that an episode of Pros with Coaches, including Spawn, would be incredibly enjoyable to watch!
Bro our imports are actually giving top tier content. I remember seeing Ignar in the CLG/NRG full team and he was just like…”yeah.” But Castle kinda poppin off.
ignar was fun on other teams, like EG with jiizuke and impact. he did seem weirdly quiet on cam at NRG. and he did choose to leave a championship team, maybe he just didn't like the others.
Average grades:
River S-
Inspired S-
Blabber A
Umti A-
Contactz B+
Bugi B
Exyu C
Armao C-
River is so funny 😂
This one felt like they took it most seriously and I really appreciate that! Great content travis!
Glad you got Castle in the episode, he has a lot of personality! I hope we hear more from him throughout the year
Bro so good! These vids are actually so cool when the pros play along and don’t troll. Like look at how similar their lists are. Kinda sick
Castle is way more energetic than i thought i figured him for stoic type lmao, also his english seemed really natural
Crazy to hear no S tier jungler when 2 of them are in the discussion for MVP.
Shouldn’t be though. Jojo/Quid all the way. **MAYBE** River but even then, just Quid.
@@jaexynn jojo was invisible 1st half of the split especially during their losses vs the 2 bottom teams in the league. jojo is only an mvp candidate to people who play favorites. river also shouldn't be in mvp consideration since he inted during key moments in their games way too often, if he were more consistent after 15 mins then maybe.
the only 2 people in mvp consideration should be inspired and quid.
Just because they are LCS MVP candidates doesn't mean internationally they are S tier
imo theres no s tier player playing in western league best is A+
@@sonnyankau9239 it's gotta be Quid, dude just looks so cracked
Loving this series!
Impact + Spawn!
Love watching Quid too!
I’m really surprised people are that hot on Bugi. I thought last year he was borderline all pro but not this season. I have him at 7/8.
Yo! @LCS! Why have I not seen Castle content until just now! This guy is so opinionated, give him a mic and let him roast people!
Castle rapidly becoming my favorite lcs player
I think spawn's point is really valid, but I have to disagree with river being able to play carries well. I feel like him and blaber are polar opposites in terms of play and very meta dependent junglers. Although I will say blaber is much much better on non carry champs compared to when he started off his career. Like I feel like his ivern game against TL was actually fine for the most part (I think him trading flashes with umti was kinda troll tho). However, I feel as if blaber on things like maokai (The guy is like 14-2 on the pick lifetime lol) and sej is where he really excels in terms of tank junglers. River on carry junglers I feel like is super hit or miss and no in between. Seeing his kindred games from last year or his rengar games were truly some of the games of all time lol.
i love quid
I think other pros need to listen to spawn here
spawn loves to yap
NA junglers are pretty strong this split
Impact: "There are no good Junglers. But I'll put River as S."
Spawn: "That makes sense."
???
Basically he is curving the grade so that the range is representative of the current LCS junglers
You can tell a lot of these are based on scrims because some of the rankings are headscrachers. Imagine ranking Armao over eXyu
Eyxu looked good yesterday lol
Armao looks bad because his mechanics aren't great. But jungle is a facilitator role and Armao's a great shotcaller. eXyu on the otherhand just looks good and that's about it. I think Impact's 4:05 description is perfect. The dude isn't a jungler. He's more like a guy who got autofilled as jungle. The guy wasn't even a top 5 jungler in academy lol. Iirc he never even hit challenger in Korea lol.
Agree with your summary
I have bad hearing I don't know players from photos, can you please put names under photos?
Poor dynamic. too slow.
I'm not sure if those last 4 words are meant to insult the content? It feels pretty fast paced to me.
besides that, did you not notice that we put the name of the player above the tier list every time someone was ranking one of them?
@@TravisGafford Me talking about bad hearing was bullshit. Didn't expect you to answer. Last words were my personal opinion, I can't understand your angle: how can it be meant as an offence? It wasnt.
On paper amount of work seems fine, yet still video felt as a drag. Maybe edits/cuts could've been done better. After putting a player on a chart and moving to a next one I can no longer see their names. Which is a mild, but irritating oversight. In reality I often just listen to stuff and sometimes check the video. I was curious about end results by names and I couldn't understand it by just photos, unless I relisten an entire segment.
Have a good one!
PS sorry for bad English here, I'm from a phone and I hate texting, too much of a boomer, also English isn't native.
Yeah realistically
S tier Inspired
A tier Blaber
B tier Contractz
C tier Exyu
D tier Armao / Bugi
Dog tier River / Umti
No one shits the bed like River and Umti when it matters the most and I can’t get over that. Also River looks like a Korean version of Vector from Despicable Me.