Interestingly enough, your bi-conditional example: I'm alive only if I'm breathing isn't sound. If you can breathe, you're alive, but if you're alive, you aren't necessarily breathing. You could be choking, for example. Of course, you aren't going to be alive for much longer unless you can restore your breathing. Distilling the logic from language isn't always easy.
TheBerkeleyBeauty It's not complicated. If you are choking, you aren't breathing, but you could still be alive. Therefore, his example isn't sound. The other two are being pedantic. No Google because time period is irrelevant and Mister because breathing isn't simply the process of moving air in your lungs (though that is part of the process). They probably said what they did assuming I was being pedantic. I'm not. My distinction is important. We don't necessarily declare time of death when breathing stops for a reason.
FilterExel Come on, do you think when the time comes its gonna matter? Like someone is going to fall victim to this distinction. "Sorry ma'am, I called it when he coughed. Its not what I would consider breathing."
My applause and appreciation to David and the crew . It would seem that what most American believe to be their " knowledge " is in actuality nothing more than prejudice formed before the age of fifteen . It is important that you " believe nothing that you read and only half of what you see " that is the definition of " critical thinking "
Keep in mind that an invalid argument does not mean that it’s a bad argument it can be a perfectly fine inductive argument. Given the new information that A is false makes it more likely that B is also false, even if not necessarily so
What is the strategy people use that I haven’t walked in their shoes or I’m not their race/color so I wouldn’t know? In conversations I see this used a ton. Thank you
I wonder if people falling for this fallacy are confusing the converse with the contrapositive. They think (A -> B) -> (B -> A) is true, but it's (A -> B) -> (~B -> ~A) that is true... I wish there could be a poll or something.
+Math and Logic You might be right - getting into the heads of people who are confused about logic is a tough thing to do. I wish it was taught more rigorously in school!
There is too less of this series! Could you keep up with this logic fallacies series? Explaining the abstract and symbolic logic is hard. I saw a lot of video explaining this and yours is the least confusing one! By the way, if you could add key words like "logical fallacies" "formal fallacies" in video titles or hashtags, the seo result would be much better. Thank you. Looking forward to seeing more on logical fallacies.
Some people find difficulty in communicating with others simply because their tone is wrong. I will include a link to a video that will help explain why some people are expressing the wrong tone. ua-cam.com/video/5SG2HWo9dis/v-deo.html
+ NAPTOWN RHYTHM BLUES I gave a "thumbs down" to that video thanks to this link. It was not a terrible video, but I always punish dishonest click bait.
Pat Doyle You are breaking my heart by giving it a thumbs down. You are free to express yourself and I encourage that. There was nothing dishonest in my opinion because it is my belief that music is the universal language.
I can accept what you say, and am very saddened by it. Your complete lack of understanding of content relevancy and context is depressing - assuming you are being truthful. Or perhaps you merely expressed yourself poorly. But your link was not relevant. It was commercial bullshit about guitar picks, and someone selling himself (probably you) as a teacher on the subject. My only regret is that I have but one "thumbs Down" to give for honesty and decency.
Wrong demographic, actually idk how many DPS fans play guitar. I can play basic chords and have a mediocre guitar, but me being drawn to that link was completely coincidental and unfortunately I don't need guitar picks.
Pat Doyle I appreciate your discourse with me on this subject. Plus our views and comments in the comment section are a benefit to the David Packman show, it helps generate revenue for the show. I do enjoy watching the broadcast although I am not interested in donating money directly to the show. But I support the show through my views and commentary. I am very sorry that I have saddened you. I see perhaps that I have angered you to the point of using profanity and I am very sorry about that as well. It will always be my believe that music is the universal language and I hope you can understand the relevance. Be well my friend and be peaceful.
@David Packman Want a little information on what the next Facebook scandal will be? I have it. I will be the source of it and I'm offering you a first look before I release it. Give me an email address and I'll hook you up. This has explosive potential. If I don't have a contact for you today I'll release this elsewhere.
Mister Democracy Good for you. If David Packman gives me an email address today I will upload what I have and he can decide what to do with it. When and if he breaks it you will see it. Until then I'll only release it to a news outlet. David has first crack at this expiring today. After that look for it elsewhere.
Mister Democracy I believe it is. However, to protect my privacy in the current ludicrous state of our nation I will only communicate via the Internet. This shit isn't coming back on me.
Mainly clicked the video to find out how to pronounce antecedent
David, it would be helpful if you not only gave examples, but showed a real world situation where arguments were used
Pro tip: you can watch series on flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching lots of of movies these days.
@Nash August Definitely, have been watching on Flixzone for since november myself =)
@Nash August yup, I have been watching on Flixzone for months myself :D
@Nash August Yea, I have been using flixzone for months myself :D
Interestingly enough, your bi-conditional example: I'm alive only if I'm breathing isn't sound. If you can breathe, you're alive, but if you're alive, you aren't necessarily breathing. You could be choking, for example. Of course, you aren't going to be alive for much longer unless you can restore your breathing. Distilling the logic from language isn't always easy.
Aaah, but what if you are on a breathing machine? Then the machine breathes you. A very controversial topic this is.
C’mon you all, why do you have to make it more complicated than it needs to be? Everybody knows exactly what he meant when he used that example.
TheBerkeleyBeauty It's not complicated. If you are choking, you aren't breathing, but you could still be alive. Therefore, his example isn't sound.
The other two are being pedantic. No Google because time period is irrelevant and Mister because breathing isn't simply the process of moving air in your lungs (though that is part of the process). They probably said what they did assuming I was being pedantic. I'm not. My distinction is important. We don't necessarily declare time of death when breathing stops for a reason.
FilterExel Come on, do you think when the time comes its gonna matter? Like someone is going to fall victim to this distinction. "Sorry ma'am, I called it when he coughed. Its not what I would consider breathing."
FilterExel
The other two are being *pedantic* ?
My applause and appreciation to David and the crew . It would seem that what most American believe to be their " knowledge " is in actuality nothing more than prejudice formed before the age of fifteen . It is important that you " believe nothing that you read and only half of what you see " that is the definition of " critical thinking "
Keep in mind that an invalid argument does not mean that it’s a bad argument it can be a perfectly fine inductive argument. Given the new information that A is false makes it more likely that B is also false, even if not necessarily so
Your egg-sample reminded me of the guy who said, "I'd like all of your eggs." IIRC it was the guy from Parks And Recreation.
What is the strategy people use that I haven’t walked in their shoes or I’m not their race/color so I wouldn’t know? In conversations I see this used a ton. Thank you
What if I ate eggs after breakfast?
Maybe all day is breakfast?
Then you ate breakfast.
What kind of eggs? Cavier?
The Judicial Review What if I had pancakes for breakfast? Those have eggs on them, which I ate...
Blasphemy!!!
Love these
So if you believe what Fox says you are a gullible fool, but if you are a gullible fool you might not necessarily believe what Fox says?
🤔 I love your brain David 🖤
Good morning. Eggs sound good.
I wonder if people falling for this fallacy are confusing the converse with the contrapositive. They think (A -> B) -> (B -> A) is true, but it's (A -> B) -> (~B -> ~A) that is true... I wish there could be a poll or something.
+Math and Logic
You might be right - getting into the heads of people who are confused about logic is a tough thing to do. I wish it was taught more rigorously in school!
There is too less of this series! Could you keep up with this logic fallacies series?
Explaining the abstract and symbolic logic is hard. I saw a lot of video explaining this and yours is the least confusing one!
By the way, if you could add key words like "logical fallacies" "formal fallacies" in video titles or hashtags, the seo result would be much better.
Thank you. Looking forward to seeing more on logical fallacies.
Listen if the earth is round then why are my shoes flat and not round
If the earth is flat then we should all be able to fall off the planet and into space
No, because of gravity
I wonder how this fallacy would relate to the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy?
if(eggs = true){
breakfast;
}
// this is where "else" would go //
What's a logics?
I hate my critical thinking class 3(
Some people find difficulty in communicating with others simply because their tone is wrong. I will include a link to a video that will help explain why some people are expressing the wrong tone. ua-cam.com/video/5SG2HWo9dis/v-deo.html
+ NAPTOWN RHYTHM BLUES
I gave a "thumbs down" to that video thanks to this link. It was not a terrible video, but I always punish dishonest click bait.
Pat Doyle
You are breaking my heart by giving it a thumbs down. You are free to express yourself and I encourage that. There was nothing dishonest in my opinion because it is my belief that music is the universal language.
I can accept what you say, and am very saddened by it. Your complete lack of understanding of content relevancy and context is depressing - assuming you are being truthful. Or perhaps you merely expressed yourself poorly. But your link was not relevant. It was commercial bullshit about guitar picks, and someone selling himself (probably you) as a teacher on the subject. My only regret is that I have but one "thumbs Down" to give for honesty and decency.
Wrong demographic, actually idk how many DPS fans play guitar. I can play basic chords and have a mediocre guitar, but me being drawn to that link was completely coincidental and unfortunately I don't need guitar picks.
Pat Doyle
I appreciate your discourse with me on this subject. Plus our views and comments in the comment section are a benefit to the David Packman show, it helps generate revenue for the show. I do enjoy watching the broadcast although I am not interested in donating money directly to the show. But I support the show through my views and commentary. I am very sorry that I have saddened you. I see perhaps that I have angered you to the point of using profanity and I am very sorry about that as well. It will always be my believe that music is the universal language and I hope you can understand the relevance. Be well my friend and be peaceful.
@David Packman Want a little information on what the next Facebook scandal will be? I have it. I will be the source of it and I'm offering you a first look before I release it. Give me an email address and I'll hook you up. This has explosive potential. If I don't have a contact for you today I'll release this elsewhere.
Master Man Thumbs up but I don't believe shit til I see it.
Mister Democracy Good for you. If David Packman gives me an email address today I will upload what I have and he can decide what to do with it. When and if he breaks it you will see it. Until then I'll only release it to a news outlet. David has first crack at this expiring today. After that look for it elsewhere.
maybe call his voicemail? 221-2DAVIDP I believe is it, not certain. We'll see I guess.
Mister Democracy I believe it is. However, to protect my privacy in the current ludicrous state of our nation I will only communicate via the Internet. This shit isn't coming back on me.
Master Man ooooo I cant wait