I own two 420’s.87 and 89. I payed 600 apiece for them. One has a 60” deck and the other I put a 47 snowblower on which I purchased for 750 bucks. I love both machines! Nothing better! Had to put a PTO electric clutch and lower pulley on the 87. Very expensive but worth it. Always check lower front pulley for loose splines. This pulley is about 200 bucks! Love the power steering! Thanks for the video❤
well done, explained thoroughly. I work at the local Deere dealership, there is a sweet 420 available. I just put the front mount and blade on and took the deck off. Gotta do the research to determine age, just under 2k hours and smokes blue slightly, I'd love to have it, we'll see. Thank You for posting this. I learned a lot !
Very good review. Although I do question some of your points, overall, it's well done. Having refurbished a couple of these, I would say a lot more attention to the rear axle needs to be done as they not only crack but downright destroy themselves. The frame at the axle mounts often breaks completely off which usually allows the axle to pivot enough to crack or break the opposite axle. The last 420 I did I had a hole in the bottom of the transaxle case large enough to stick your hand through. These transaxles are virtually impossible to find in good condition. After several months, I ended up converting a 318 case to the 420. It's not an easy task but it can be done. The front PTO clutch had to be replaced and that alone led me to repower the tractors with something a bit more modern. That PTO is very rare and very expensive. It is a total oddball due to the large crankshaft and dual belt pully sheaves. It was a showstopper. The repower engine allowed a much better PTO to be installed as it is a later design and available off the shelf at a reasonable price. The power steering box had to be rebuilt and that is certainly beyond most owners' capabilities to do it correctly. Finally, that 60" mower deck is one of the most solid I've run across with a very big "but" that comes with it. If you own one of these, I would suggest you take very good care of the gearbox. They are NLA new and no parts are available from either Deere or the Manufacturer. Finding a good one is very unlikely and after months of looking another Deere fan reluctantly parted with his spare. If you rock out the very small woodruff key of the input shaft and allow the joint to wear, you're in for a tough time getting it going again. All that said, I personally would not recommend anybody take on one of these models unless you're like me and really love to take on a challenge. But if you choose to do so, I have many photos and videos and I'm always happy to help others.
A few years ago I bought a 420 and the guy said it was OK but the 24hp honda that was in it had carb issues so I went ahead after getting it home and tried starting it but nit much luck so I bought the carb and tried it and it ran but still issues so I pulled it and got a briggs 23hp and all is well. I replaced all fuel lines totally with tank filters then got a cab and wired that for led lights. I got a smow blade since the one he gave me didn't fit, later I bought a easy buck loader and it's great. I added a rear weight and new tractor tires and rims new. On the old 24hp honda I'm leaning it's in the area of a governor but I took a completion check and one sides low. I priced rear gearbox for a tiller and a used ones are crazy cost so I bought a gas unit to pull behind with a lx176 or lt160. Please supply the electric fuel pump you used in case my briggs goes out. It 8nly has around under 100 hours or less. Your posts are great helps a old fart learn more
Damn I just picked up a 1992 420 with a whopping 3600 hours on it. Super tight. Has a Honda 24hp repower that has 400 hours on it and looks like it was done quite professionally. No creep. trans is pretty quiet. 60 deck in okay shape paint wise. No rust holes. Spindles are quiet. Only things she needs is a new paint job and axle bolts that mitigate front axle wobble. I feel someone used it alot(of course), but had it worked on by a Deere dealer it’s whole life.this thing truely shows that hours don’t mean much when it’s taken care of
Mine didn't have a belly pan but bought 8ne fast. My steering cylinder has lots of movement but works fine. I can't see any stops for steering max. I've been thinking about making a container for hydrolic fluids that won't take forever. I'd love to have a mower deck with shaft
Great video as always, thanks. Question- how do you like the loft in your shop? Seems like it would be super useful. The shop at my new-to-me house is 30x50' with a pretty high ceiling, so I do think there would be room.
It’s real nice to have for storing stuff you won’t be using for a while. I’ve kept tractor parts up there and they stay in good shape up there and out of the weather/
@@66Oliver 425 is hydro like the 140H3's 425-445-455 are all the same axel...not sure about the 415, but i believe it is also, just never seen one in person.
Great help,my friend is selling his 420,steering is lose ,burns oil,but looks nice ,it was a 1 family owned tractor ,nice 60 inch deck ,he gave 2k for it ,he is going to take offers!!!,i am not sure what it would take to buy it ,any suggestions ,i am not sure of the hours on it or the year,i didnt want to look to interested ,lol!!!
Sounds like it’s been pretty used. I wouldn’t be able to tell you for sure, but that’s how it’s sounding. $2k sounds high to me, think I’d give a max of 1. Never hurts to ask and look at it, after all, it’s free! Lol
Hey, I just got my second 430, but the middle freeze plug on drivers side is corroded and gushes coolant. It's behind injection pump, impossible to reach. Do you have any tips about gaining access to this area? Will I have to pull water pump, crank cover, etc?
Well, can’t say I really know how to help ya there. Never owned a 430 before, but it’s on the bucket list. A forum or service manual would be your best bet for that.
@@66Oliver thank you. I have always like the 430. Spent at lot of time on a 314 as a kid. I have a Yanmar 1401D 16hp. Built a pto log splitter. My brother and i have tulked if he had a pto on his 425 it may work but was not sure on rpm. Thank you for your knowledge.
I own two 420’s.87 and 89. I payed 600 apiece for them. One has a 60” deck and the other I put a 47 snowblower on which I purchased for 750 bucks. I love both machines! Nothing better! Had to put a PTO electric clutch and lower pulley on the 87. Very expensive but worth it. Always check lower front pulley for loose splines. This pulley is about 200 bucks! Love the power steering! Thanks for the video❤
I'm going to go look at a 430 this weekend. This info will be very helpful. Thenks for the video!!!
well done, explained thoroughly. I work at the local Deere dealership, there is a
sweet 420 available. I just put the front mount and blade on and took the deck
off. Gotta do the research to determine age, just under 2k hours and smokes
blue slightly, I'd love to have it, we'll see. Thank You for posting this. I learned a lot !
Very good review. Although I do question some of your points, overall, it's well done. Having refurbished a couple of these, I would say a lot more attention to the rear axle needs to be done as they not only crack but downright destroy themselves. The frame at the axle mounts often breaks completely off which usually allows the axle to pivot enough to crack or break the opposite axle. The last 420 I did I had a hole in the bottom of the transaxle case large enough to stick your hand through. These transaxles are virtually impossible to find in good condition. After several months, I ended up converting a 318 case to the 420. It's not an easy task but it can be done.
The front PTO clutch had to be replaced and that alone led me to repower the tractors with something a bit more modern. That PTO is very rare and very expensive. It is a total oddball due to the large crankshaft and dual belt pully sheaves. It was a showstopper. The repower engine allowed a much better PTO to be installed as it is a later design and available off the shelf at a reasonable price.
The power steering box had to be rebuilt and that is certainly beyond most owners' capabilities to do it correctly.
Finally, that 60" mower deck is one of the most solid I've run across with a very big "but" that comes with it. If you own one of these, I would suggest you take very good care of the gearbox. They are NLA new and no parts are available from either Deere or the Manufacturer. Finding a good one is very unlikely and after months of looking another Deere fan reluctantly parted with his spare. If you rock out the very small woodruff key of the input shaft and allow the joint to wear, you're in for a tough time getting it going again.
All that said, I personally would not recommend anybody take on one of these models unless you're like me and really love to take on a challenge. But if you choose to do so, I have many photos and videos and I'm always happy to help others.
A few years ago I bought a 420 and the guy said it was OK but the 24hp honda that was in it had carb issues so I went ahead after getting it home and tried starting it but nit much luck so I bought the carb and tried it and it ran but still issues so I pulled it and got a briggs 23hp and all is well. I replaced all fuel lines totally with tank filters then got a cab and wired that for led lights. I got a smow blade since the one he gave me didn't fit, later I bought a easy buck loader and it's great. I added a rear weight and new tractor tires and rims new. On the old 24hp honda I'm leaning it's in the area of a governor but I took a completion check and one sides low. I priced rear gearbox for a tiller and a used ones are crazy cost so I bought a gas unit to pull behind with a lx176 or lt160. Please supply the electric fuel pump you used in case my briggs goes out. It 8nly has around under 100 hours or less. Your posts are great helps a old fart learn more
Damn I just picked up a 1992 420 with a whopping 3600 hours on it. Super tight. Has a Honda 24hp repower that has 400 hours on it and looks like it was done quite professionally. No creep. trans is pretty quiet. 60 deck in okay shape paint wise. No rust holes. Spindles are quiet. Only things she needs is a new paint job and axle bolts that mitigate front axle wobble. I feel someone used it alot(of course), but had it worked on by a Deere dealer it’s whole life.this thing truely shows that hours don’t mean much when it’s taken care of
Mine didn't have a belly pan but bought 8ne fast. My steering cylinder has lots of movement but works fine. I can't see any stops for steering max. I've been thinking about making a container for hydrolic fluids that won't take forever. I'd love to have a mower deck with shaft
Great video as always, thanks. Question- how do you like the loft in your shop? Seems like it would be super useful. The shop at my new-to-me house is 30x50' with a pretty high ceiling, so I do think there would be room.
It’s real nice to have for storing stuff you won’t be using for a while. I’ve kept tractor parts up there and they stay in good shape up there and out of the weather/
I have a 430 1100 hours with weights and 7 foot blade. My dad owned it and it’s been serviced often. I like to sell mine.
Sell it to me
I have a 316 with the junk plastic fuel pump can you give a link for the electric pump? thanks in advance and great video
Any auto parts store has them. That’s what I used for this one.
Any of them come with a 2 speed transaxle? I know simplicity did. Great video.
All the 4 series do, 400, 420, 430, 425, etc.
@@66Oliver 425 is hydro like the 140H3's 425-445-455 are all the same axel...not sure about the 415, but i believe it is also, just never seen one in person.
I picked up a 430. He wants to run hot. Any suggestions on a radiator and where do you get side covers? They’re missing? Thank you.
Mother Deere or a local radiator shop might have one for you. Side panels you’ll have to buy used.
Great help,my friend is selling his 420,steering is lose ,burns oil,but looks nice ,it was a 1 family owned tractor ,nice 60 inch deck ,he gave 2k for it ,he is going to take offers!!!,i am not sure what it would take to buy it ,any suggestions ,i am not sure of the hours on it or the year,i didnt want to look to interested ,lol!!!
Sounds like it’s been pretty used. I wouldn’t be able to tell you for sure, but that’s how it’s sounding. $2k sounds high to me, think I’d give a max of 1. Never hurts to ask and look at it, after all, it’s free! Lol
@@66Oliver that is my thoughts,thanks!!!
My levers are some loose but work great but the age and hrs it's great for my uses
My hydro lever creeps when in the center so I just pull it to nutrual.
I own a 265, 314. And f 725 ❤
I'm looking for a 3 point hutch possibly the ruegg
I had problems with the valve seats
That’s a great video content concept you could probably hit every manufacture
Hey, I just got my second 430, but the middle freeze plug on drivers side is corroded and gushes coolant. It's behind injection pump, impossible to reach. Do you have any tips about gaining access to this area? Will I have to pull water pump, crank cover, etc?
Well, can’t say I really know how to help ya there. Never owned a 430 before, but it’s on the bucket list. A forum or service manual would be your best bet for that.
Do you have 2 430's? If so would you be interested in selling one of them?
@@ZacharyOrtiz-k1s I don’t have any.
@@66Oliver 👍
Are the rear PTO's on thease garden tractors the standard 540 rpm?
You have to buy the PTO clutch kit, but rear PTO speed is mostly 2000 RPM. I think they might have 540 ones as well, but they’re rare.
@@66Oliver thank you. I have always like the 430. Spent at lot of time on a 314 as a kid. I have a Yanmar 1401D 16hp. Built a pto log splitter. My brother and i have tulked if he had a pto on his 425 it may work but was not sure on rpm. Thank you for your knowledge.
Do you know if a 400 deck and a 420 deck are the same ?
Similar design but I don’t think they will interchange on tractors.
@@66Oliver thanks
So if missing belly pan or side panels dont buy. Got it.😂
I mean i dont really expect any seat to last 30 years.😂 Ok im done😂 cheers
Oh and basically I should get the 332🤔
Soft wood is still wood.🤠🤷