the Headrush Core CLONED MY WORST SOUNDING AMP - Also I Sing a bit.
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- WELL? CAN IT?
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Chapters
00:00 - Intro (obviously)
03:18 - Does is DRIP?
08:52 - My high gain patch
18:45 - Cloned Princetons
22:37 - Cloning MY WORST AMP
33:14 - listen to me SING!
43:48 - Final Thoughts
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Is this why I saw 2 Princetons on Marketplace this morning?
RB, you’re the best demo dude in the business. Your sense of curiosity and fun is sincere and infectious. I would never buy something like this, but it was a pleasure to watch.
So.....I had the Core for about 4 months. I'm pretty sure I got it last August and got rid of it in December. I did like it, I even signed up to be a Beta Tester, which was cool. I'm worship leader at church, so singing and playing guitar. Guitar is Stereo into FOH...so, why did I get rid of it you ask? The community, or more accurately, how it doesn't exist. Even to the point where the main players in the preset purchasing world (ToneJunkie, Worship Tutorials, Tone Factor, etc) have pretty much abandoned the thing. The Prime/Core firmware is just over a year old, and they seem OK with updates, but feature priorities are a little skewed. When I was beta testing for the last major update, I tested the firmware for about 3 months....it wasn't released, publicly until after I got rid of it. Everything seemed to work fine to me, and the forums had very little in bug reporting, so I'm not sure why it was taking so long. Theu included some nice features in the update, but it seemed like their main priority was synth stuff....which didn't really interest me, or about 99% of the people using the Prime/Core.
What I LOVED about the core....the play along feature. You can essentially load backing tracks onto the device and play them through a separate output...so, if there are folks out there looking at backing track options, this would work. It really was an "all in one" solution for me, tracks, vocals, and guitar...but you have to sacrifice guitar effect blocks to do vocals at the same time.
So....what does all of this mean? They are fabulous units, as long as you have everything you need to be alone in the game. Clone your own amps (I didn't have one single REAL amplifier when I had the Core) get some nice IRs if you'd like, and learn the ins and outs of creating your own presets, or editing the factory ones or the very few available online.
The world of modelers is pretty crowded right now, and reviews are abundant for all of the devices out there. Reviewers do a great job of illustrating what the DEVICE can do, but nobody really goes into the extra stuff, or even provide alternative options. I've had a Helix Floor, the HR Core, HX Stomp with a Hotone Ampero Stomp, and am now using a Quad Cortex. Again, I do guitar in stereo, vocals, and backing tracks.
The Helix Floor - VERY limited, you could call it bare bones, no vocal pitch correction, no backing tracks, no "clones, captures, what have you," and the looper is a complete joke...it's LARGE, VERY LARGE....BUT, the community is unmatched. If you can't find a preset online that you like, you didn't look hard enough...and the updates, my goodness, sometimes they would actually surprise us with an update we weren't expecting...need a few more amp models, here you go...want a couple extra delay options, tada...and the effects....wow, this thing is DEEP with options...BUT, it's also nearly 10 years old, and seriously, do I need 50 reverbs on a device when there are only 2 I really use?....and STILL $1500 new...then if you want tracks and vocals, you have to look at TC Helicon, and a PC on stage (other options for tracks available) Then a Midi controller to tie them all together (BUT Midi in the Helix is by far the best of all tthe devices) Total Cost for everything I would need with current needs, Helix $1500, TC Helicon Voicelive play $300, and 1010Music Blackbox $650.....total cost $2450...and it will NOT fit on any pedalboard...and will be HEAVY as hell if you have the Helix, then a small board for the rest.
Core - like I said, jack of all trades, master of none. Pitch correction that is very touchy, and difficult to really figure out...the manual is a joke. The looper is the best I ever used on a multi effect device...no surprise really, considering, Headrush have the Looperboard as well. The file system is next level, by making it NOT next level....plug the Core in to USB, and it shows up as a drive...move, edit, copy, paste, rename files to your hearts content...don't like the factory presents? Copy them to your PC as a backup, then just delete them all from the device...wiped clean to customize how YOU want...Headrush Core - $800, which is total cost, but like I said, it will DO everything I need it to do, just not very well.
Quad Cortex - AMAZING piece of gear...captures, the DSP is second to none...you really have to TRY to overload this thing. The community and Cortex Cloud is substantial enough to be able to find whatever it is you need...BUT, it's ALL cloud based...for instance, in order to load an IR, you must upoad it to the cloud, then the QC will download it to the device, you can't just put it on the device. Effects are "meh." The ones they have are good...but there's not many. They don't really add any in updates either, because Neural is trying to catch up with everything they promised as launch nearly 3 years ago. They promised Plugin support (you can use Neural DSP plugins ON the device) at launch. The current firmware update they are working on actually makes it possible...caveats, you must OWN the plugins...so you have to PAY $100 to get the plugin, then the device will recognize your license and allow you to use it on the QC, itself. AND, the update has taken even longer to release than anticipated. They announced it in March, saying they had hoped to release it at the end of June...still waiting. The update was to also include expanded midi control (which is desperately needed) and for my needs, pitch correction, among other features. Oh yeah....the QC still costs $1700...and I got a 1010Music Blackbox for tracks at $650. Total cost, $2350, and it all fits on a Rockboard Tres 3.3. Though, time will tell if the pitch correction for vocals is something I can use the QC for...right now, I have a Flamma Corrector.
So....that leads me to what I think would be the ideal setup for what I do...though I'm not doing it because well...I have a Quad Cortex. All of the setups mentioned would require a midi controller. There are tons out there, and it would be common in all the setups mentioned, so I won't include it's cost.
Line 6 HX Stomp ($600), plus 2 Tonex ones (2X $180), plus a TC Helicon Voicelive Play (300), plus a 1010Music Blackbox ($650), and a midi controller. Total Cost $1910, and every component does what it should. The stomp for effects, the dual Tonexes for the amps, blackbox for tracks, and voicelive (I wish they weren't so big) for vocals...and everything would still fit on my Rockboard. And most of this could be found used, as well...
Just my 2 cents since I actually owned the Core, and can compare it to some of the more popular options. Bottom line, if you like community, and the ability to purchase tons of professionally created presets...and you actually like that the manufacturer updates their firmware....get a Line 6 product..The Helix line (including the Stomp) are the only devices I've used that feel "finished." They do what they do, and they do it well...there's really nothing to "fix." BUT, they are old...
If you want a true all in one, without all those pesky people supporting it, get the Core
If you want an absolute monster of a device that may actually reach it's true potential in a few years, get a Quad Cortex (no, I'm not bitter at all, why would you say that?)
Want to mortgage the house? Look at Fractal, and from what I hear, be prepared to spend at least a month "dialing in" your ideal tone...again, option paralysis isn't a good thing.
There are many reasons you see gigging UA-camrs always seem to go back to their HX stomp setups...don't ignore that...Chris Buck, Jon Nathan Cordy, Steve Sterlacci...all have attempted to use alternatives, but still use an HX Stomp or HX Stomp XL for gigging.
Damn, that was wordy, no wasn't it....for my next Thesis................................
I gig a digitech rp360 😂
Thanks for the overview! 👍👍
This was helpful thank you!
This is the review of this i have been waiting for. By far the best demo and for the love of god, thank you for not playing exclusively metal like every otger reviewer of this seems to do. Only issue is that i want onw now
Great idea ! Who needs another JCM model ? Next one the Bandit 112 model.
"What the heck does chug do" - ola wer???? Halp pl0x!!!
I totally need those Gorilla Amps cloned now 🤣
A bit aggravating how good this sounds. But, do I regret my 200+ pedals (many purchases influenced by this show...one that even came directly from Ryan's garage)-? Only when I move-- otherwise, no. Weird as it sounds, I'm inspired by the aesthetics and functional limitations and tactile experience of actual pedals. But this is nice.
P.S. I want that micro battery amp patch. Brilliant!
I agree about sticking with pedals for the total experience. Also, most pedals are just industrial electrical components that can be repaired forever. These computer things will fail and there's no repair if you don't have a backup of the operating system software and all of its updates.
@@Crispy_Music_2024 I hsd that thought, too. Still, I believe these things allow you to dump to a harddrive. But, pedals keep on keepin on when software goes out of date and drivers deteriorate or aren't available for update. Still a few Maestro Fuzz Tones or Binson Echorecs around....
"Let's give it a reverb.... A spring reverb." 🙃 duuhh!
I thought we'd never hear Ryan sing. Could be pretty decent with a little spit and polish! 🎶
Wonder if anyone has ever captured a decent Rockman profile on any modeler or profiler that would be cool and I never thought about it until you said I wanna clone battery powered amps. Someone needs to make Rockman profiles happen, I’d almost bet someone has or there’s Rockman amp sims at least?
I have an old Digitech 2120 from 30 years ago, kinda like the first modeler so to say. Has a boston patch and sounds fabulous being this old. Still use it
Been a Headrush user from the beginning I gig with mine everywhere. Love it
Pulling out some Tripping Daisy! Sweet! Trip Along is a great tune.
Had mine for about 6 months. I have various projects and it has served me well. What a time to be a player!
Got my headrush core 2 months ago picked it up used in in absolute Flawless condition new in box with the screen protector only $630 from Guitar Center on the opposite side of the country instead of having to pay shipping costs I had them ship it free of charge to my local Guitar Center for pickup unbelievable deal! ❤😊❤😊
This was fun to watch, some cheap practice amps sound the best
I use AmpliTube myself. Models from their amp cloning software can be imported into it. I'd love to use that Roland sound in that context as well.
EFFIN cool sounding
tripping daisy! nicee
I like it , looks like it would be a great home studio tool. Great demo, thanks! 🤘
It’s an impressive piece of gear….but I See a lot of “choice paralysis” there is so much there. How are you amplifying it?
Ryan I bet you'd love the Gibson GA-5 Skylark amp. It has that mean raunchy torn sound that snaps back.
Can you convert your amp captures to Line 6/HX Stomp format eventually? I know I’m asking you to jump through some hoops but…. 🙏
Hello! Great review! You’re the only that showed the vocal effects. I’ve just one question; is it have two outputs one for mic and one for guitar or they come out with one output together?
@@eliabiancardi I’m pretty sure you can route the output a bunch of creative ways but I haven’t explored that so you should consult the manual
@@60CycleHumcast thanks man I’ll do it!
How does the spring reverb in this unit compare to Oceans 11?
Great great fun I was laughin my ass off when we started [layin with the vocoder stuff.
I get mine about 4 months age. Absolutely love it. Real deal🎉
Headrush needs to add a PC editor. I gave up my MX5 because of the lack of an editor, but I'll get one again if they make one.
I like the vocal effects best.
Is there a place to download your surf patch?
You inspired me to get guitar lessons! I’m gonna go as far as I can on UA-cam and then get a teacher.
that meters moment!
I have over $2500 in pedals in my Sweetwater cart but man, I’m thinking of going digital for now with the Core. I too love surf, spaghetti westerns country chicken picking sounds. Looks like the Core can do it. Hmmmmmmmm….. what to do:-) My Sweetwater Rep is so helpful with all this:-)
I picked up x2 Princetons at Marketplace today for a bargain... 😂
Nice Fender! 😃
Reverb party, ftw! 😂
The Afford-A-Board has gone wild... I'd jump some hoops for this one ;)
But would you model one of those old Pignose amps?
Sure, if I had one.
Yes you can hold a tune with singing!
You're wrong!
I do want to see a 10-hour review.
❤😊😂
I want the Peavey Pacer clone.
Hey man!!! cool Stuff!!! can you try and recreate an auto Dive bomb effects hahahahaha
The vocal fx sound maybe better than the Boss Vocal Performer, but you'd need to try without headphones to see if there's any feedback with these settings. On the VE-20, things like distortion create nasty feedback.
Feedback when connected to what?
And you did make sure that output volume was unison?
Gain always stacks up, so output needs to be adjusted back down to mic level.
With a PA the speakers/monitors also benefit from going through a ring out adjustment, maybe best with the drive engaged to catch the offending frequencies.
Fesley is gonna see this and be like "but you didnt demo ours? 🥺👉👈"
i like the folk cover of pepper
RB01 is a Bogner Ecstasy
Yeah, I feel the same about Marshalls.
I've got that processor I like it quite a bit you know I watch Daryl Braun guitar A Lot 2 I wonder if something's happened to him because I haven't seen any new videos in a couple months
speaking of cloning... when you look in the mirror, do you actually see chris elliott??
love the vid.
“The name of the canned” sorry somebody had to do it!
More BH surfers please.
I dig digital gear, but I do wonder about the longevity of some of these pricier units. I have analog Boss pedals from the '80s that still work.
The purpose of companies putting out digital gear is because it'll fail, go obsolete, and can't be repaired if you don't have the core software to install on the hard drive, which means future generations have to buy something as opposed to continuing to use old equipment.
Some of it will last for decades.
Back in 95 I had a Digitech RP10 which had a hardware error early on, but the slightly older Digitech rack multi fx from back then still works.
Boss GT6, 8, 100 and Line6 Pod XT Live also still work.
Using a GT1000 Core as my main fx unit now, only thing it is sensitive to is the placement on top of my poweramp, to much heat building up at certain spots, the 1000C produces quite some heat on it’s own.
Also using a NUX Amp Academy with it for the JCM sound, which with low bias and gain sounds more like a JTM together with the drives from the GT that I use in front of it.
The cool thing and reason for me using that Boss unit over others is that the divider blocks can be set to input sensivity, which means that the guitars volume is all that is needed to go fron a rythm sound to a much louder lead sound with auto wah, delay and more output volume, perfect for having more on top at full volume without having a single pedal on the floor.
I see a lot of talk around updates/patches, which is fine if there are issues, but I never learned to count on them to include new features, probably because it wasn’t a thing back in time, plus that selling a brand new unit with bugs/errors just would have been bad.
It is always nice to get new features though, but bugs shouldn’t even exist upon release.
@@JoeBaermann You make good points. In fact, my old Digitech RP50 still works (and sounds great), I busked and gigged with it all last summer. I mostly play clean-ish tones, though.
Seems like a weird way to model but if that is what is required then I guess that's what you do
Pretty sure you're a baritone
I can see you doing some Tom Petty tunes
Does it surf? Hi Ryan, I’ve seen many demo’s of this pedal board and even though I haven’t tried it first hand I would say that it’s right up there with the Quad Cortex. I love the Fender Strat your using to demo this. The HSS configuration is the best way to get all sorts of different tones. Great demo as always! Get naked, get your surf on, and keep it bluesy.
Does it drip? Or did I already miss that part?
I think he said it did
I would answer but seeing as though you clearly have the attention span of a gnat, what's the point... I doubt you'd remember.
well this is a fun looking toy. probably way too expensive for my tastes, but some folks will undoubtedly get some good use out of it. that vocal stuff is nuts. you can make yourself an instant shoegaze singer, or that silly autotune mumble rap stuff -you could do that through this, but also play guitar on it....
ALSO, you missed a great opportunity to do the "stay grounded" bit through the vocoder weirdness....
A few vocal lessons with a proper instructor for breath control and posture, you'd have a voice I'd go to listen too👍
i used to be a lot better practiced at singing. Its been a good 15 years since i sang regularly.
This...or a Strymon pedal..
Nice device, but it does not fit the affordaboard really, i think ..
most of my videos are not afford a board videos.
Seems really affordable compared to a bunch of pedals and the Prime unit.
I Like Pepper
She is fine. Much cuter than Salt
I actually like most Orange clones better than actual Orange valve amp sounds!
At $800 bucks I doubt many of us will find these at our neighborhood music gear shops. That means no test drives and I don't buy things that expensive without demoing them.
They have headrush units out for demo at the Guitar Centers near me, odds are if someone wants to try one, they're more accessible than you may expect.
@@BearBrush That's good to hear because they need to get them out amongst musicians if they intend on selling them.