As someone building a wooden Camel, I have been following and enjoying your journey from when you knocked up your MGs while waiting for the kit. A Camel in kit form is still a Camel and as you observe, a damn site faster to build and get into the air. Arguably safer and a more practical flyer as well. Stick to your guns and keep enjoying your journey. 🙂
It's a form representation of a Sopwith Camel utilising current materials and construction techniques, and IMO you are mastering a great project 😊 By memory the access in that era was generally a couple of D-shaped foot cutouts in the fuselage. I suggest you have a few evenings in front of the gogglebox and watch classic old movies like “The Blue Max”, “Aces High” and “The Red Barron”. Now you’ve progressed so far you will notice all sorts in the background you wouldn’t have a year ago. Love your content 😊
@@scottmatthews5280 On the original, a single D shaped foot cutout left hand side, on the lower longeron, in the bay just behind the trailing edge. Horizontally it was 3 foot away from a "scuff plate" on the cabane beside the cockpit rim. My pick is it's an ungainly entrance/exit with a very large stretch... With your build, you could potentially do something a little more convenient 🙂
Getting into a camel. Just been looking a photos of an original camel. On the original camel there is a hole for your right foot just behind the port wing and a handhold just behind the pilots seat on the turtle deck ,the wing spar has a piece on top to reinforce it for your left foot, then swing your right foot into the cockpit. Hope this helps.
Love this project can’t wait to see it fly and how it goes with the rotec engine! Any ww1 bi plane made after ww1 is a replica surely? As long as it’s accurate in form and dimensions and it’s flys well then it’s all good 👍
You mentioned that the aerofoils were of a modern shape. Are you anticipating some differences in lift characteristics, especially in trim? How is your finger - OK I hope. Cheers.
I can't wait to see the final result, how much time you tgink you will need from now to finish it? I'm a "good" crafer but haven't ever made anything that important, and i have a dream to build a Nieuport or a SPAD IV or XIII, do you think it is achievable by anyone? Thank you for your series
Yes of course anyone can do it/ all the information is out there. I’m in no hurry on this one. Covering will take a while, fuel, electrical and avionics then ground testing. It’s a big project
To me it's a real Camel. Regarding getting in the thing: There is a foothold on the port side fuselage just aft of the lower wing trailing edge. I assume that takes your right foot and the left goes up on your wing root panel, appropriately reinforced.
Why not extend the wing spars under the fuselage as a removable item? Then plate the wing root and add cut outs on the fuselage side like on a military truck? KISS
Eyup Scott. Not a Camel? (Coughs, splutters and reaches for medicinal brandy.) Please forgive the name drop that is coming but this is an emergency. I had the enormous pleasure to meet and chat with Captain Eric Brown in 2014 and he did not strike me as a hair splitter to say the least of it. If he was still around and knocking about your airfield and you were to ask him if he'd like to take a spin in your Camel, I do not think that he would answer by arguing the toss about whether it is a Camel or not. He'd be off in it like a Bondi tram. That's my two pennorth on that one for what it's worth. How's the finger coming along?
Looks like a Duck, walks like a Duck, it's a Duck. Or a camel in this case, love your work.
Thanks Peter.
As someone building a wooden Camel, I have been following and enjoying your journey from when you knocked up your MGs while waiting for the kit. A Camel in kit form is still a Camel and as you observe, a damn site faster to build and get into the air. Arguably safer and a more practical flyer as well. Stick to your guns and keep enjoying your journey. 🙂
Thank you
It's a real full size Sopwith Camel well done mate
Cheers Ken.
She's looking great Scott. Press on.
Thank you
It's a form representation of a Sopwith Camel utilising current materials and construction techniques, and IMO you are mastering a great project 😊 By memory the access in that era was generally a couple of D-shaped foot cutouts in the fuselage. I suggest you have a few evenings in front of the gogglebox and watch classic old movies like “The Blue Max”, “Aces High” and “The Red Barron”. Now you’ve progressed so far you will notice all sorts in the background you wouldn’t have a year ago. Love your content 😊
Thank you I look at those movies
@@scottmatthews5280 On the original, a single D shaped foot cutout left hand side, on the lower longeron, in the bay just behind the trailing edge. Horizontally it was 3 foot away from a "scuff plate" on the cabane beside the cockpit rim. My pick is it's an ungainly entrance/exit with a very large stretch... With your build, you could potentially do something a little more convenient 🙂
New and improved! LOL. Wood block on hinge hole was a cool idea.
Works great, 3D printer would be handy
you're probably building a safer Sopwith. Great to see the progress!
Thank you
Sopwith camels went through changes to its design throughout WW1 as well. they evolved with time, as this one has.
It sure has thanks
Bonza replica Sopwith Camel.
Thank you
Lots of clever and effective methods demonstrated on this one. You continue to earn the title, Jig Master 😎🎩♠️💙
Thank you kindly
Getting into a camel.
Just been looking a photos of an original camel. On the original camel there is a hole for your right foot just behind the port wing and a handhold just behind the pilots seat on the turtle deck ,the wing spar has a piece on top to reinforce it for your left foot, then swing your right foot into the cockpit. Hope this helps.
Yes you are correct, might just need some Yoga lessons!
Love this project can’t wait to see it fly and how it goes with the rotec engine!
Any ww1 bi plane made after ww1 is a replica surely? As long as it’s accurate in form and dimensions and it’s flys well then it’s all good 👍
I would have to agree thank you.
You mentioned that the aerofoils were of a modern shape. Are you anticipating some differences in lift characteristics, especially in trim? How is your finger - OK I hope. Cheers.
safer more predictable flight characteristics . Finger tips s on the mend thanks
It's a camel! Just a better one. Loving the videos ♥
Oh thank you!
The way I see it, is back in the day Tom Sopwith would be have built Camels just like this if he’d had access to modern aluminium.
You are spot on.
yup. Sopwith camels went through changes to its design throughout WW1 as well. they evolved with time, as this one has.
great and safe job.
Thanks
Pretty Kool Stuff.... It's comin together .... keep the Buzz goin .... Carry-On.... !!
Thank you
Beautiful
Thank you! Cheers!
I can't wait to see the final result, how much time you tgink you will need from now to finish it? I'm a "good" crafer but haven't ever made anything that important, and i have a dream to build a Nieuport or a SPAD IV or XIII, do you think it is achievable by anyone?
Thank you for your series
Yes of course anyone can do it/ all the information is out there. I’m in no hurry on this one. Covering will take a while, fuel, electrical and avionics then ground testing. It’s a big project
To me it's a real Camel. Regarding getting in the thing: There is a foothold on the port side fuselage just aft of the lower wing trailing edge. I assume that takes your right foot and the left goes up on your wing root panel, appropriately reinforced.
Correct, but then I need to jump! To high to get in. I’ll work through it.
@@scottmatthews5280 Lots of Camel and Pup videos, but hardly any (if any) showing the climbing in!
Why not extend the wing spars under the fuselage as a removable item? Then plate the wing root and add cut outs on the fuselage side like on a military truck? KISS
Structural integrity.
Eyup Scott. Not a Camel? (Coughs, splutters and reaches for medicinal brandy.) Please forgive the name drop that is coming but this is an emergency. I had the enormous pleasure to meet and chat with Captain Eric Brown in 2014 and he did not strike me as a hair splitter to say the least of it. If he was still around and knocking about your airfield and you were to ask him if he'd like to take a spin in your Camel, I do not think that he would answer by arguing the toss about whether it is a Camel or not. He'd be off in it like a Bondi tram. That's my two pennorth on that one for what it's worth. How's the finger coming along?
Thank you, got the experts sticking needles in my finger, very pleasant experience!
Scratching aluminium spars with a hole punch isn't the best idea.
Straight edge then hole punch to mark hole thanks