[PoE 3.21] Was This New Ascendancy Node Tested by GGG? - Pathfinder Magic Find Blade Vortex Disaster

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  • @KOBEBLACKMAMBA
    @KOBEBLACKMAMBA  Рік тому +25

    Veteran Bowyer > Master Distiller

    • @JoshuaRiches
      @JoshuaRiches Рік тому

      yo kobe try it with mageblood

    • @TQDigitalMod
      @TQDigitalMod Рік тому +1

      old PF(with old flask masteries) > new if you ask me. I consider the rework a flop... used to be one of my favorite ascendancies because I hate manual flasking(other than life when needed)
      still salty about losing mapping efficiency on chaos characters(AOE and lower wither stack chaos dmg), couldn't give two f's about having more boss DPS)
      Master surgeon is good but annoying to use and unnecessary at higher gear levels.

    • @andrewbishop869
      @andrewbishop869 Рік тому +1

      Master distiller is annoying due to the movement skills using the charges, took me a few minutes to notice. But using the 50% chance to not consume a flask helped a bit, but still kept running out of the flask for when I needed to pop it. Great with mob clearing but bad in one on one fights

    • @HansWurst-gm2rx
      @HansWurst-gm2rx Рік тому

      @@JoshuaRiches kekw thats what i was thinking, should work with mageblood :)

  • @SonNguyen-bm1so
    @SonNguyen-bm1so Рік тому +25

    "You can see all my flask charges are disappearing before my eyes" I found that so funny

  • @DrDanQ92
    @DrDanQ92 Рік тому +51

    They tested this node with their 1.5k base dps weapons with mageblood, no worries.

    • @aldodzb
      @aldodzb Рік тому +4

      It's the other way around, alpha testers aren't allowed to get past hillock so they can't even get flasks.
      Alpha tester testing this: 👍

    • @KRIGSSV1N
      @KRIGSSV1N Рік тому +3

      There was no testing, they just plushed the node in the game & released.

    • @davidnnn6986
      @davidnnn6986 Рік тому

      @@Varielde 😂you think blizzard know how to balance games?

  • @Anngrat
    @Anngrat Рік тому +8

    There are no movement skills in their precious ruthless mode, omegalul😂
    P. S. I heard about gem from hillock.

  • @jakemartin5553
    @jakemartin5553 Рік тому +10

    We're looking at this all wrong.. this node was just a teaser for PoE 2.. it doesnt work in the game now because any mediocre build will likely be using 3 abilities per second.. but in PoE 2 where EVERY movement skill will have a massive cooldown and where we MIGHT get to use an ability once every few seconds, it's going to be sick!

    • @jmmasters6100
      @jmmasters6100 Рік тому

      Lol you have no idea what you are talking about. So every skill has a cd including your main skill, and its going to be sick? Lol the gameplay would be sooooo slow and it will be dumb as shit

    • @gehirndoper
      @gehirndoper Рік тому +4

      Don't even joke about this.

    • @selectionn
      @selectionn Рік тому +2

      shield charge will have 30 second cool down to encourage tactful and thoughtful gameplay - chris "The Vision" wilson

  • @slutmonke
    @slutmonke Рік тому +7

    I think they just copied the function of the potion thrower skill gems and didn't consider that those are _one_ skill vs applying to all skills. Even if they just changed it to not apply to movement/travel skills, or make it only take 1 charge per case of movement/travel skills instead of 3 charges, that could potentially be more sustainable.

  • @HeavyClaw
    @HeavyClaw Рік тому +7

    Of course it was tested, when Chris explicitly said that wants to "slowdown the players", well, they sorta did it, a node that technically nullifies an entire character.

  • @Deadlychuck84
    @Deadlychuck84 Рік тому +1

    The only thing that I would think could possible be useful for the master distiller would basically be if temporary minions like SRS, AW, or Skeles could benefit from the node. But given how most interactions have worked in the past, I assume that the bonus applies to the cast and not to the summoned minion.

    • @FrozenSynapce
      @FrozenSynapce Рік тому

      Actually some traps would be cool but it's not working. So let this node be 1 poison bv with replica eternity shroud. I got my pob to 10kk with like absolute trash gear

  • @Diehardgamer2001
    @Diehardgamer2001 Рік тому +1

    Since its granting offensive bonuses, it would make far more sense if it consumed charges whenever you actually hit something instead of when ur just shield charging around the map, and only consume those charges when the buff is not already currently in effect. Hell even if they only did the latter it would prolly become sustainable vs how it is rn

  • @SirRabbit
    @SirRabbit Рік тому +1

    I invested more into movement speed and phase run to try and accommodate for the movement skill problem.

  • @SuperRoxasXIII13
    @SuperRoxasXIII13 Рік тому +6

    ggg would make a lot of money for a lvl 60 boost

    • @222Artemis
      @222Artemis Рік тому

      pls

    • @dirtnap9641
      @dirtnap9641 Рік тому

      Couldn't imagine the cost. Given the fact back attachments are $36

    • @proxis9980
      @proxis9980 Рік тому

      i swear to god the second they do that ima gona spend multiple voiborns worth on denial of service bot nets attak on all the fukin servers...

    • @SuperRoxasXIII13
      @SuperRoxasXIII13 Рік тому

      i would hate it yeah, but i hate lvling more

  • @MrCappuccino993
    @MrCappuccino993 Рік тому

    How to fix this: add an active timer for the buffs you get when said charges are consumed. Make them available for, let's say, 6 seconds or whatever is the base duration of those 3 flasks. During this time, you cannot gain another buff of the same type, therefore no more "lemme drink your distilery shop while you shield charge, sir"

  • @stephennetu
    @stephennetu Рік тому +1

    The issue with that node is the internal cooldown shared across all flasks on getting flask charges back. If you could bypass that, it would be an insanely powerful node, because then you could stack charges gained on crit on your flasks and have infinite uptime. There is an argument to be made that it could be used while league starting a pathfinder, perhaps, as you might not have "that many buttons to press", but I still think there are more powerful considerations, obviously, so even that I cannot say they were thinking.
    Perhaps a cooldown on the ascendancy node, but allow the effects to linger for multiple skill uses? Almost a quasi-"warcry" type of thing?

    • @Skeleton43
      @Skeleton43 Рік тому +1

      excuse me? there's a cooldown on when you can and can't gain charges on flasks outside of the cannot gain charges during effect mod?

    • @Ahunae
      @Ahunae Рік тому +1

      ​@@Skeleton43 There's a cd on the modifier "Gain a Flask Charge when you deal a Critical Strike" of 100ms (shared across all flask), so you only can gain up to 10 charges each second

    • @stephennetu
      @stephennetu Рік тому

      @@Skeleton43 Welcome to PoE. Even if you've played for a decade, you'll learn some silly, hidden "rule" that completely breaks the way you thought about something. But yeah, there sure is, lmao. It's super small, and obviously is there to prevent server lag, but because of it, this ascendancy node makes zero sense and cannot function in any reliable way.

    • @Kc-uq9ef
      @Kc-uq9ef Рік тому

      @@stephennetu If I remember correctly the CD was added (or lengthened) because of infinite uptime on flasks from some CoC builds. Same reason that "Gain charges when hit" no longer applies to self hits like with Hiltless.
      I could be wrong ofc, but I vaguely remember this being the case.

    • @stephennetu
      @stephennetu Рік тому

      @@Kc-uq9ef Yeah, that rings a bell, honestly. A lot of these weird caps have been added since 2.4, give or take, and especially everything after 3, where we had a real explosion of power creep with a lot of never-before-seen intertwined mechanics. I'm OK with it, but it is beginning to show the "wear and tear", so to speak, on the design space overall.

  • @MsBombtrap
    @MsBombtrap Рік тому

    Most important difference between bow and BV is DISTANCE. BV is more melee range and you have to deal with incomming damage when bow just explode entire screen.

  • @Frank_Art
    @Frank_Art Рік тому +4

    Should be something like, consume the charges on skill use gain 4sec buff, and if you gained the buff recently(so 4 sec) it disables the loss of charges until buff goes off

    • @ChunkyCoffee
      @ChunkyCoffee Рік тому

      Exactly what I was thinking while watching this, it should definitely just be a buff for a short duration that prevents you from gaining it during the duration.

  • @neuro1921
    @neuro1921 Рік тому +1

    GGG: 5k+ hours players tested this node and said "its good".
    Me: Testing it for 5min and just deleted it .....

  • @MsBombtrap
    @MsBombtrap Рік тому +1

    Watchers eye gain 1 flask charge every 3s on crit hit while affected by Precision.
    Timeless Jewels have 20% flask charges gained

  • @luketurner2325
    @luketurner2325 Рік тому

    @KobeBlackMamba I have been using it on my PF Lightning Arrow, but am probably going to spec out of it. It works if you use Enkindling Orbs to put on 60+% Increased Charge Recovery and Chance to Gain Flask Charge on Crit on the flask it's going to use. Catch is you can't actively use the flask, the skill uses it. Losing a flask slot is way too big of a downside for me honestly given how powerful Pathfinder Flasks can be.

  • @g.waits4gainz205
    @g.waits4gainz205 Рік тому +1

    yeaaaaaaaaaaa its super sad to see cause it was obvious how terrifying that pathfinder ascend node was buuuuuuuuuuuuuut its DEFFINITLY something you can potentially accomplish with a mageblood working but its wild. scary tho cause even poison conc with that much pain was bad enough,but that acend just feels super investment costs to get that to work even if ur not a path finder idk hahahaha buuuuuut glad ur having fun with some builds cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeesr

  • @QuintessenceHD
    @QuintessenceHD Рік тому +26

    Master Distiller might be the worst node GGG has ever placed on a ascendancy and that is saying A LOT.

    • @AlexLazzarotto
      @AlexLazzarotto Рік тому +11

      At least the league is good. Just kidding is trash

    • @QuintessenceHD
      @QuintessenceHD Рік тому +1

      @@AlexLazzarotto Well the base game is in a great spot though, so here is hoping for a better league next time... since it seems Crucible has already gone into maintenance mode lol...

    • @Uelibertiga
      @Uelibertiga Рік тому +1

      The worst one SO FAR...

    • @Spiritchuckpvp
      @Spiritchuckpvp Рік тому

      The funny thing is, if you assume they want the baseline game to be more like Ruthless it makes a lot of sense lol. Can't waste the flask charges on movement skill if there aren't any!

  • @Tdiehl717
    @Tdiehl717 Рік тому +1

    Flask Mastery
    - Enemies you kill that are affected by ele ailments grant 100% increased flask charges
    + Enkindling Orb Duration

  • @kolumdium
    @kolumdium Рік тому

    That Rampage "Tech" is not quite right.
    You just need to get a kill with the weapon swap setup. A duration skill helps though.

  • @g.waits4gainz205
    @g.waits4gainz205 Рік тому

    damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn i completly forgot that it wasnt limited to specific types of skills hahahaha HOLY SHIT THATS SO BAD FOR ALL OTHER SECONDARY SKILL USAGES HAHAHAHA especially for how much it costs yikesssssssssssssssssss

  • @TwoToo_
    @TwoToo_ Рік тому

    No shit, i saw that coming and ggg has this stupid policy of never changing anything after release.....

  • @Marajewhuanaa101
    @Marajewhuanaa101 Рік тому

    Imagine having 5 or more attacks per second. That’s 15 charges a second on like half your flasks D: this is gross the amount of things that don’t get tested before league start. Especially when they had an extra month to do so.

  • @billytheframe1355
    @billytheframe1355 Рік тому

    The amulet and belt skin look sick what are those?

  • @bluemario9101
    @bluemario9101 Рік тому

    we are testing ever league

  • @sychorux6372
    @sychorux6372 Рік тому

    Flask charges gained on critical strike? It's capped due to "A character can now only receive one flask charge per Critical Strike every 200ms. This is shared across all flasks." Still, if trying to find what they intended, it seems like a somewhat niche use
    Or flask charges when you are hit by an enemy

  • @xLimitlesso
    @xLimitlesso Рік тому +1

    The problem is that youre playing side content. Ruthless is the main game and obviously what this was designed for :)

  • @shlomgoldberg9136
    @shlomgoldberg9136 Рік тому

    wew its a ruthless ascendancy and its designed that way, with you being unable to spam skills or use movement skills

  • @getusome6776
    @getusome6776 Рік тому

    they def didnt think it trough should be a buff on a timer

  • @thischannelisnotmine
    @thischannelisnotmine Рік тому +1

    That 100+ divine mirror fee shit needs to go, if someone gets lucky enough to drop a mirror or farms out one, they should not have to farm out another mirror just to pay the mirror fee.

    • @Ahunae
      @Ahunae Рік тому +2

      So you want ppl to spend hundreds, if not thousands of divines making a mirror tier item, and mirroring it for free?

    • @thischannelisnotmine
      @thischannelisnotmine Рік тому

      @Ahunae free? No but less than 100 div? Yes, they could potentially make thousands of div in profit after paying back the crafting cost

    • @ragingnep
      @ragingnep Рік тому

      ​@@thischannelisnotmine your overestimating how much mirror items make in profit.

    • @decembertide
      @decembertide Рік тому

      If someone gets a mirror, why would they spend that mirror, trying to craft a mirror tier item?When the mirror allows them to fund a solid endgame build and still keep a good chunk of the currency.
      Those that are buying a mirror service are getting the absolute best item the league or server has to offer. If they can afford a mirror service, 100 divines wouldn't hurt their pocket. And if it hurts, they clearly aren't making the right decision getting the service in the first place.

    • @loopygordo
      @loopygordo Рік тому

      You do understand you can re sell the mirrored item right?

  • @mikemccord6276
    @mikemccord6276 Рік тому

    It's a skill set up to make a bossing build on budget.

  • @roundishcap
    @roundishcap Рік тому +1

    I tried to use master disteller, but it ended up not being consistent during the campaign. It is surely a ruthless thing where you don't have cast speed and you stack move speed.

  • @haroonakhtar3624
    @haroonakhtar3624 Рік тому

    like GGG gives a damn at this point

  • @thangnofuture
    @thangnofuture Рік тому

    They need to make it so that when u get to maps, every other character starts off at the end of the story. Ain’t no one tranna relevel. Story mode is waste of time esp for people who don’t really have time to play

  • @jakenotjake899
    @jakenotjake899 Рік тому

    I only hate shield charge cause it’s clunky as fuck around walls and shit and if your mouse isn’t at the edge of the screen you won’t move

  • @mattb6646
    @mattb6646 Рік тому

    Thats what i hate about poison coc, i admit im a newb so very possible theres something i dont know but it was annoying leveling with poison coc and it using up my healtb flask charges

  • @uoislame
    @uoislame Рік тому

    i wonder how it would work with the precision flasks gain a charge on crit watchers eye. a lot more flask sustain

    • @RPGSauce
      @RPGSauce Рік тому

      Flask on crit is one of the most trash things in the game, it will grant one flask one charge on crit, and it has a 1 second internal cooldown that is shared with all sources of flask charge on crit

  • @LordNerfherder
    @LordNerfherder Рік тому

    Currently playing big SST phys -> all element -> chaos build that is really satisfying and working on perfecting it with gg items. Atm 4.5k shield and 4k hp and really blasting with slayer and es leach on a champion with endurance+fortify. Never played better.

  • @soumyadey8522
    @soumyadey8522 Рік тому

    can someone tell me what is the intro song

  • @TheHeroYouDeserve
    @TheHeroYouDeserve Рік тому

    Drop shield charge. Use withering step and onslaught and tailwind either on boots or forbidden jewels. Use flask charge gained on crit flasks and the flask charge precision watchers eye. Awakened unleash and you'll only be casting every 4 seconds or so and the ascendency node is now giga good.

  • @gokusan4961
    @gokusan4961 Рік тому

    GGG never test their shit NEVER xD dude every league no tests as usual business

  • @Deadlychuck84
    @Deadlychuck84 Рік тому +1

    Probably the funniest part of the node to me has to be the Diamond Flask. It doesn't change how it works, like turning Bismuth and Amethyst flasks into offensive flasks. Nope, it just gives 50% more crit, than using the flask itself.

    • @KRIGSSV1N
      @KRIGSSV1N Рік тому +1

      It adds these effects on top of the original flask crap, but for each skill use... doesn't replace anything.

    • @Deadlychuck84
      @Deadlychuck84 Рік тому

      @@KRIGSSV1N I understand that you can have the flask active too, but when you can roll > 50% increased crit chance mod on a crit flask with 100% already, and use infinite skills during that 6+ sec window.
      It's effectively the same, assuming that you have no increased flask effect and/or that inc flask effect doesn't apply to the keystone.
      So since it's not reasonable to have enough flask charges to use the flask and activate the keystone, it's just objectively worse than a diamond flask effect.
      But as I said, the other two flasks are def flasks that have entirely offensive effects from the node, so at least that's something.

  • @user-nm6fh7ze1e
    @user-nm6fh7ze1e Рік тому

    Please stop calling it a 12 link wand. It's a 9 link+squire, which makes it a 9 link wand. Otherwise, you would be using a 15 link.

  • @TheQoogle
    @TheQoogle Рік тому

    Yeah , 100% not tested whatsoever. They have not even thought about it tbh, bc if you read the node you know instantly that you never sustain this.

  • @Gopstop222
    @Gopstop222 Рік тому

    GGG and tested doesnt go together in the same sentence not to mention that node would be pretty solid WITHOUT consuming charges but the fact it consumes charges is simply troll

  • @TheSwissGabber
    @TheSwissGabber Рік тому

    doesn't think GGG tested it
    starts talking about a 200 div weapon.
    Only streamers are ever going to get such gear. I'm glad GGG does not take this into account. For 99.99% of the player base this is not only irrelevant but also demotivating.

  • @rokey5648
    @rokey5648 Рік тому

    How is the interaction with mageblood? Does it do Nothing when u equip a mageblood?

    • @tarotaro6933
      @tarotaro6933 Рік тому +2

      You will run out of charge, although your flask effect will remain with mageblood but you will still run out charges which make the ascendancy node useless after charges are gone.

  • @puckkagames
    @puckkagames Рік тому

    "Did GGG test this ascendacy node? Look how broken it is with several hundred divine investment. 🤦

  • @BlazeTheDoja-qh1ey
    @BlazeTheDoja-qh1ey Рік тому

    If you don't like the campaign, then you don't like poe.
    I love the gummy ship part of kingdomhearts. Doesn't mean I like kingdomhearts as a game

  • @MagnusMegamind
    @MagnusMegamind Рік тому

    This is mageblood node, and it works perfectly fine with lightning arrow builds because they cast once to kill half the map even with trash gear. One of best nodes ingame no doubt

  • @NhuQuynh-nv7fp
    @NhuQuynh-nv7fp Рік тому +1

    They didn’t even test the crucible mechanic you think they would trust anything else ? Remember you are beta testing for them … they will hand you the nerf handle next league 😮

    • @tarotaro6933
      @tarotaro6933 Рік тому

      but tbh sometimes things are more fun before they nerf it to the ground then it just becomes stalemate where meta is the same all the time.

  • @logan4ik
    @logan4ik Рік тому

    culling strike + magic find???

  • @evilpugg6866
    @evilpugg6866 Рік тому

    Just buy some good leveling gear and knock campaign out in 2 hours. Sometimes it’s fun feeling stupidly strong cause your actually geared up. I did it with a mage blood last league and it was hilarious

  • @PlayerSalt
    @PlayerSalt Рік тому

    does the node work with mageblood?

  • @JackSuperFly
    @JackSuperFly Рік тому

    Lol! Another GGG, "We did test these changes."

  • @bartekhenryk5361
    @bartekhenryk5361 Рік тому

    They clearly design it for mageblood.

  • @AshDragonnn
    @AshDragonnn Рік тому

    espesssssially

  • @d4bad_bot
    @d4bad_bot Рік тому

    They should disable it for all travel skills.

  • @toriiibby
    @toriiibby Рік тому +1

    W

  • @Insomnia1221yt
    @Insomnia1221yt Рік тому

    Maybeeeee, they tested it on a build that stacks movement speed instead of shield charge.
    All the bow builds use movespeed with silver and quicksilver flasks. PF with the flask effects should go even faster.
    Idk why you are using shield charge with a node that says you can't shield charge. Just get move speed.

  • @Drexiify
    @Drexiify Рік тому

    it should say, not movement skills

  • @ulamss5
    @ulamss5 Рік тому

    "Did GGG test ..." No. Never.

  • @kamilmcki8631
    @kamilmcki8631 Рік тому

    I mean sorry to say but ggg doesnt know what "tested" means, for the last few leagues you should be seeing that with kalandra omega loot nefs, AN being in poe for like almost a year, crucible having many shit mods and unbalanced monsters for over a week, and also no ascendancy testing, if anyone thinks otherwise, they are surely in denial that their beloved game devs shit on the game

  • @rgxds
    @rgxds Рік тому

    what??? do u really think GGG wouldnt play test a thing before league started? thats crazzzzy (-ironic)

  • @bryannguyen6836
    @bryannguyen6836 Рік тому

    Whirling Blades > Shield Charge

  • @EraChanZ
    @EraChanZ Рік тому

    for the disgusting amount of money that is pumped into this build, it sucks ass... :(

  • @selectionn
    @selectionn Рік тому

    >implying GGG playtests anything
    we are the playtesters, bro.

  • @PhunnyConflicts
    @PhunnyConflicts Рік тому

    pretty awful lol. why or how can that even be a thing? that node should reduce the charges to the single digits to make it somewhat viable so the player can use it far longer instead of just a few short skills.

  • @ahw5hcgfyj
    @ahw5hcgfyj Рік тому

    mageblood

  • @JoshuaRiches
    @JoshuaRiches Рік тому

    or maybe use with magerblood????

    • @Topkoej
      @Topkoej Рік тому +2

      then it doesnt work buddy

  • @zeuzsp
    @zeuzsp Рік тому

    Tested? I do not think they understand that concept!

    • @pagannova3621
      @pagannova3621 Рік тому

      oh they do. we're the testers. we test it, they ignore feedback. it's worked fine since PoE's release and helped fund Chris Wilson's MTG collection habit.

  • @Nicolas-tq8yz
    @Nicolas-tq8yz Рік тому

    they tested it in ruthless, there is no movement skill

  • @Ilyak1986
    @Ilyak1986 Рік тому

    Oh gosh...riiiiight, it doesn't just eat flask charges on a primary skill use. Lmao ggg. Don't want the game to be a one button game and then release a node that says you must play a one button build. Bwahahahaha

  • @ArgumentumAdHominem
    @ArgumentumAdHominem Рік тому

    Sounds like a bug. Easy solution to only target skills from body armour

  • @orlof507
    @orlof507 Рік тому

    Testing? HA, who tests anything nowadays?

  • @georgefaber1517
    @georgefaber1517 Рік тому

    We are currently playing beta poe 2.0, nice click bait xd

  • @Denguir
    @Denguir Рік тому

    SC...kek

  • @222Artemis
    @222Artemis Рік тому +4

    1st

  • @Numm3r2
    @Numm3r2 Рік тому

    Lmao

  • @yosi1653
    @yosi1653 Рік тому

    Why would this be removed?
    You're the only person playing this and you invested 3 mirrors in it
    GGG only nerf meta build plus every build would be amazing with 3 mirrors imvested

  • @Memebrain777
    @Memebrain777 Рік тому

    so slow it looks terrible ...

  • @manorumito
    @manorumito Рік тому

    2 clips of the build and 2 deaths without doing much with multiple mirror budget...