[PoE 3.21] Why You Are Dying in Path of Exile - Lessons from 1410 Deaths Noob in Crucible
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- I go in-depth about why players still die when their builds are capable of leveling to 100.
0:00 - Introduction
2:17 - Basic Defensive Checklist
6:34 - Map Mods
10:34 - Eldritch Altars
13:45 - PoE Regex
15:15 - Final Thoughts
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Try to Die Less than Me. You should not have any issues.
My deadeye has grace, determination, , defiance banner, spell suppres 100%, phys as elem craft on my chest, small cluster with endurance generation + immortal call. What else could I add?
@@mariuszel759 you shouldn't play deadeye and try to build it defensively, it is just not the right class to do that. All the deadeye are glass cannon build. If you want to go tanky try jugg/champ/inquisitor/pathfinder.
@@tarotaro6933 i already do 80% deli easily and done 100%, but don't think it's worth it. I'll add profenesis and maybe two stun jewels to test it out.
@@mariuszel759 it is not about if you can do it, it is about how effective you can do it. Pretty much all deadeye can do deli100 with a decent high edps bow and inspire learning. It is just better to invest your currencie on offensive for deadeye rather than tons of defense and yet still die to one shot.
I'd have to try to die more than you XD
i pay for 6 portals so i use them for sure
this man maps
😂😂😂
This whole League's motto for me was: Chris gave me 6 Portals and by the golden arse of Innocence, I'm going to use them.
1410? thats just the campaign for me.
If you farm expedition and logbooks, whatever you do, do NOT take a remnant with "overwelm 100% of phys reduction".
Back in the day when I started playing PoE I learned the hard way, that you just have to have max resistances, non-negotiable. Nowadays, having max 75 resistances means literally NOTHING if you dont have 100 % spell suppression and/or increase that maximum further. This has become quite annoying and borderline stupid, as it is just another set of hoops you have to jump through, if you dont want your character to die to a fly bumping into him.
Great video
This game just needs combat logs like wow, where it exactly states what hits you for how much damage of what type , how much is mitigated by which defence
Aso
There is no way to learn anything from deaths when you just die within a frame without visible reason
Sadly will never happen due to _The Vision_
the sad thing is, open a file and writing everything that happens to a file will produce an immense amount of overhead and it is a kind of "bottleneck" ...
i can immagine that they would love to do that but its hard to build it in and keep tha game that fast.
Theres literally no reason to go with nothing more than basic defenses in this game if you're not playing hardcore. Put 99.1% of your budget into damage.
You could facetank every uber boss *at once* and there will still be a thousand rares that will sneeze on you and do enough damage to one shot you fifty times over. And its always going to be that way. Kill first, and always kill first, and you'll never have a problem.
Sad but actually true
I would prefer if defenses actually meant something tbh
New to the game running my first character and I didn't really start dying much til red maps; still figuring out which mods are super deadly but made it to level 89. Thanks for the info these kinda videos been incredibly informative.
i started with you! 2 month ago :)
i chose explosive arrow ballista - and im 97 right now.
i followed a guide but after 1 month i adapted it to 2200 life / sec, 48% damange as life recoup, 75 res all, 45k evasion and 42k armor.
its quite tanky :)
Same im about a month in and I'm stuck at lvl 86. I'm not sure how I'm gonna get through this wall
There sure were thing here that I never thought about, like keep an eye out for mutiple bad map mods. Mods that I didnt even think were bad. Thanks for a good video. Keep it up 😊
And thanks for telling us about regex :)
-How to stop dying- ❌(Impossible + Cringe)
How to make dying less annoying: Portal + Cast On Death Support permanently level 94 ✅ (Epic and Based)
Nono you use cwdt portal! So you don't need portal scrolls, if you want to port out just let something you.
Based inded
I am stuck at lvl 92 dying too much
Champion Bow-Builds can run Determination + Grace and are granted 1% increased attack damage per 200 armour or evasion, which ever is higher, using a Perseverance belt. Works with any bow attack you choose, gives free Onslaught since Champion has permanent 20 Fortify stacks (20% less damage taken from all sources), and allows you to get 50-70k armor & evasion without feeling like your damage is suffering at all compared to Deadeye. 70k armour/evasion = 350% increased attack damage.
Less zoom = beta :$)
Yeah did Goratha champion LA. Having a blast, fast, tanky, deathless so far
Wtf 70k I thought I had a lot at 7k
im playing a glacial hammer berserker, tons of dps, very good defense on top of having perma freeze. i can freeze chayula in the feared, perma freeze breachlords in the hidden, conquerors, etc. freeze is criminally underrated
My experience is if you on searing altar, watch out for those DoT when you used a flask, 1200 chaos damage per sec is no joke if your chaos resist is anything less than 50% (which get even worse if you get -chaos res altar which is super common). Also desecrate ground could be quiet deadly this league because petrified blood are commonly used this league pair that with -chaos res and desecrate ground, lots of build just die within seconds.
-60% chaos res gang letsgoo
@@lootmaster1337 wtf even is chaos res
can u share ur regex for the lightning arrow build when rolling maps?
Bros just got the mageblood chillin in his inventory
Which suffix or prefix should the armour need to increase suppress speel block ?
This is a great video - the biggest killer in PoE is not reading :D
I only played like 5 leagues and I like to play melee so i die a lot. After all the dying I learnt that using flasks all the time is very very important if you don't want to die. Try using instilling orb to automatically use the flasks if you don't want to press so many buttons all the time. And if you have currency and play melee, you can buy flasks with gain +3 charges per hit by enemy it helps so much.
-> movoment speed
-> damage
-> cast on death - portal
Ready to map
I just 100% completed my fb trickster build. 100 suppresion 100 all avoid aliments 75 chaos res over time 75 all res all at 150 to 160 total and 75 base chaos res 4.6k life 88% evade 30%damage reduction and do a 163mil dps. Pretty insane and love the build so much! Also have 6 cold and light damage taken on chest and taste of hate. Oh ya plus the acendemcy 40%less damage from hit and from over time. Its a beast but also used the mirror i found to build it plus prolly another 60-80 divs from the replica aberath warpath golden foil from requlary keys and a the insane cat div card i sold. By far mt best ever league of stuff ive found. Made 120div off the foil replica aberarhs and 40 from the insane cat. Just got my last item my bots with 67 ailments avoided by themself with 89 life dual 4x res 28 frw with the 12 frw when havent takem hit recently 5% axtion speed. I run t16 insane modded corrupt maps dont hsve reflect so stay away from those but evrything else and hit all altars with searing and never die now at all.
The combo of loreweave overleech and divine flesh with 90% max chaos res from small clusters can make you ignore the rippy map mods
I was under the impression that if evasion/armour only do meaningful stuff when they're in high numbers. Nice tip I'll carry a flask for eva
After basic def lairs, the most important is crit damage reduction. Damage taken isn't really the problem of dying, but the super hard one shot.
I have no defences other then 75 ele res and it kinda works you only have to kill faster then mobs hit you
i'm playing a poison totem explode pathfinder.
i have 0 armor and evasion BUT,
i have capped spell suppress, petrified blood, progenesis with perma flask uptime, lightning coil + double taken as hat + taste of hate, + purity watcher's eye,
purity of elements, poison immunity via watcher's eye and blessing malevolence, stun recovery jewel combo, recoup on tree and ring AND capped chaos res.
i can click every blue altar i see in a juiced map without looking at the downsides and literally never die
sry for my bad eng
look what i had :
23 fortify, 78-79 resist and chaos 75%, 90% phys def.
As i play melee i take flesh and stone that give me 15% less damage from enemy that aren`t nearby, and i take arctic armour cuz im melee (you must stop runing to do dmg) so that gave me 20% def against phys and fire and we convert some phys damage taken in fire
take slayer and get leech bonus as -10% damage taken and unstoppable leech and stun immun
and i still die and got oneshoted again and again
idk where to get spell suppression as duelist, best way that i find get 700-1k dex and convert that in suppres+lucky chance on mastery, or take armour with dex base and convert evasion in armor with iron reflexes (i dont like evasion cuz 'If resulted entropy value is lower than 100 the hit counts as evade. When the value gets increased to 100 or greater, the check counts as a hit, and entropy value is subtracted by 100')
how to enjoy the game after 1400 deaths?
-3000 armour and evade seem little compare to when you have 50k+ armour or evade but you get that 50k from all the bonus but -3000 is target your main stat so actually it will reduce your defend 10k+ at least.
The only way I stop dying in POE is when I save and exit and play a different game. Too many OP rares that are harder than shaper.
i kinda wish there was a system where if you're within +/- 5 of the monster, then they cannot 1 shot you, giving you a chance to react to pot up or move out of the next attack. Normally, i wouldnt want such a system, but you cant see ANYTHING going on in this game. might as well play blind and just hope not to get killed ya know?
note that armour is stronger vs smaller hits.. meaning 20% phys to elemental dmg taken.. actually reduce the physical hit more than 20 %... since the phys dmg is a smaller hit your armour has more value..
Another solution: Just by 5ways to 100 and don't give a fuck anymore
1410... well well Kobe my characters say hold their beer they've got some caskets to go hop in lol
My advice, long comment but you know complex game! Thus is for softcore where you really want to take all good altar mods although deadly!
I can teach you one thing about altars and dying, i never die because i never use determination or armour. GGG fked armour up in so many ways because armour is good on paper but here is why i don't like it.
1- it feels bad to not take a really good altar, or a really good expedition mod.
For that reason i know most ppl would rather take a deadly good mod.
2- blue altars for example have 2 mods that completely destroy and renders your armour useless unless you have crapload of it and most ppl don't. 1 mod is reduce defense per frenzy andd the other is reduce physical dmg reduction.
3-likewise, expedition does have overwhelm 100% of physical reductions.
4- included in that, the many MANY mods with as extra phys as elemental/chaos where armour value is lowered the more of that mod there is, so it is almost as if, if you built armour as base defense for your character you have too many mods you can't play against. But if your char is tanky without armour then you naturally have no problem with anything.
Altar mods as such, which reduces the value of armour to a point where it provides almost no value;
1-Reduce defense per frenzy
2-Reduce phys reduction
3- dmg taken as extra cold/fire/light
The problem with armour in all of those cases is that it either does nothing, or completely brought to zero value, or if you have 30k you are left witb 10-20k and then your moltenshell sucks.
On the other hand, when you have 20k evasion left and blind your still evading most of enemy hits.
How do i never die in literally the deadliest maps? I don't even use my MB or HH too?
Well, for starters some non-armour based physical reduction will still be a nice thing to have but only if it does not come at a steep cost.
1- I am a gladiator so i have cluster to generate me 3 endurance charges " if hit recently" and that brings me up to 22% phys reduction with ascendency.
2- i do have fortify
3- alt quality petrified blood, and low life 55% mastery
4- shitload of evasion and blind
5, if you are a bow character, vaal rain of arrows/ reliable way of hitting ensnaring arrow on all enemies, The slow is a key defense.
6, ofc, mobility. Blink arrow will kill you, frostblink is king. Never use it to move, use it to escape. In my case i frost link to get out of those annoying slowing areas that look like hands "delirium shit" where my char feels like zero MS.
7, enough health / dmg "duuuh, i know"
8, reliable recovery methods, life on hit is king if you hit fast like vitality watchers eye. Life flask with "40% of flask something something over 10 seconds" because this mod will recover me to full life eventhough my petrified blood is on, thet makes it feel like i have 50% more life than i a actually do.
9, ress overcap "again for altars shit" you need 60 overcap cold and light for blue altar + a way to deal with ele weakness "so one way is 80 overcap"
10- if you have 40k evasion WINDDANCER PLEASE it is underrated as fk
11- ofc spell suppression BUT if you do have max ress "which i do" you could alao go for 75% spell dodge "which is frankly way better than spell supp with petrified blood and max ress"
12-get good, jk ofc 😂
I probably left many points but those are the most important i can think of.
I was gonna retort "But expedition has 'hits cannot be evaded' so evasion is no good aswell" but it's the only anti-eva mod in expedition/altars (there's the -3000 armour and eva but since it hit both at the same time it's rippy either way), meanwhile armour does get negated through a lot more mods ...
I'm playing RF Jugg RN so I obviously stack armour, thanks for the heads up I'm gonna be more vigilant regarding altar mods
That is the problem in our society. A guy who died 1400 times in two weeks, teaches a course on how to avoid dying with full confidence.
tbh, if you run a MF build like him, getting that character above lvl 96 is already a impossible task, I myself can never get my lighting arrow deadeye in MF gear pass lvl 96.
never ask for fishing advice from a fish
Instead of spell suppression, wouldn't it better to just cap spell block and have good armour values (not necessarily needing to cap attack block)
It is a lot easier to cap spell suppression plus you can do that for every class. Block on the other hand requires certain class/build/gear, also in terms of defense spell suppression is always better than spell block because 50% less damage all the time is much safe than you have 10% chance of not block and take the full damage (but of course, you can always get both)
@@tarotaro6933 I disagree, I think if you have a spell block capped it is much better than getting spell suppression as you take less damage over a period time much less and besides you only worry about underling mobs which are killed pretty fast anyway depending on your dps I guess. With running Tempest Shield you get 25% spell block and then with any unique shield that has high spell suppression you can already easily get 50%+ spell block right off the bat so it is more than easy to cap early. But again it is just a difference in opinion. Thanks. Oh I forgot to add, i you get max resist up to like near 90% than spell block cap again feels much better.
@@ADesertVoice well you have to identify what's the dangerous threat. For most if not all build, it is always big hit. Spell block does provide you less damage taken in general hence higher ehp pool, but it doesn't save you from big hit if it go through your block (doesn't increase max hit taken). Plus like what you said you need a shield. And base on poe ninja this league less than 30% build use a shield currently.
@@ADesertVoice and again like i said if you have blocks there is no reason to not get spell suppression as well. And it is a big mistake to try to max block and completely ignore spell suppression. In fact you will have much better defense results if you have to give up some blocks in exchange for 100% spell suppression
@@tarotaro6933 Sorry I guess I should have made this clear, I play a Jugg so I guess as a Jugg build taking spell block is better. I can see how if you were playing a more squishy build, taking spell suppression might be much easier to mitigate over time. Since Juggs have a lot of Armour, what you said doesn't really apply.
You commited suizide
Ah forgot to use my flask again
And I thought my 911 deaths/2.4 mil kills were big enough. But I try to mf after lvl 100 and always do league mechanic every map to 100% to get more chance of unique drops.
Seems to be alot more bleeds this league, esp the crucible mobs, they also deal alot of phys dot.
Lvl98 still die in t5 map
I usually glance over and don't read the mods and get 1 shot from reflect, most of the time it's my fault, but I don't mind dying it just sucks that you lose exp
If you use Elemental Damage With Attacks support you can buy the awakened version to become reflect immune
@@caveteethjoe I do use awakened gem but I still die cuz my attacks still deal physical damage, I killed myself few times even with that gem
@@XelaShade have you tried the less reflect damage taken pantheon? If so you can always use sextants, the no reflect one is very cheap.
@@caveteethjoe I will try the sextant when I have the chance thanks
@quin69 good vidéo for you bro
the only one problem with death is 0 portal left xD
i die because im a delve charakter (my first one char ever) with 2200 life / sec, about 48 life recoup ... and im down 250 on delve making currency. sometimes monsters are just hard down there :D
LA ALLDAY
I believe the most important thing you need to know so that you stop dying is... PoE endgame mimics aspects of real life, you cannot be good at everything since your time and resources are limited and leagues also have a time constraint. You cannot be the best doctor at the same time as an engineer (some people can but you most likely not). For this reason we leave building and road designs to engineers and we specialize in what we spent years training for.
Your 1 single character is not ment to
-zoom trough maps at lightning speed
-1 shot uber bosses
-be an unkilable tank.
"but X streamer can do all 3 of this things, why can´t I?" Because they are meta slaves, they are willing to play either an unfun build or play for long enough periods that they could get mirror worth gear able to compensate for the build´s deficiencies. You most likely cannot.
Pick something you want to excel at, make a build around that content, and build defenses for that specific content, in context, uber bosses dont use elemental weakness+exposure+altars that reduce 50 cold/lightning resist. You don´t need 175% all resist for uber bosses. But you do for T16 unid map spamming. Same thing with 90% max resistance, uber bosses have an innate 8% penetration+ some uberbosses like shaper have skills that pierce 25% cold dmg. While 90% max resist is great for mapping, a build with a huge lifepool and 75% max res becomes more effective against uber bosses.
In hardcore people buy kills for content their characters aren´t build to do, for SSF we make new characters for specific challenges for the same reason.
bro i'm playing flicker strike and i thought i was doing bad dying 1159 times
Yes, i have tried reading the altars. They all read like this: +51% rarity, +22% quant, ble bla ble ble dontgiveadamn cause loot
I know i am getting into the right region when sixlinks start dropping left and right ... well, so am i but it gives me the money to get a 5-way carry to my desired level and then staying alive be damned!
just more reasons to disable rarity/quantity in the game
you can die to reflect if even with 110% reduced reflect, if you have a debuff that increases the damage you take enough, because they stack additive (unless that got changed since 3.19)
I‘m dying a lot because of lagspikes actually
80 chaos res or ass
Turn out we supposed to play only white maps T1-5 to enjoy the game!
Lesson 1: Don't play deadeye, done.
Best way to stop dying is kill things before they kill you. Need all the deeps 😂
Remember guys, death is just another dps mechanic.
1- learn to use potion
2- put more life on your gear
3- ailments immunity
4- cold blood immunity and bleeding immunity
5 learn the game ( exemple get away from strong box when you open it)
Anything that has "overwhelm physical damage reduction" you stay away from. Because no matter how tanky you are, you're gonna got deleted
Just got 100 la. Feel tanky enought did simucrum deathless hh + progenis flask pewpew
Can you share the pob? I run grace determination defiance banner, small cluster jewel with endurance charge + immortal call and still get obliterated sometimes.
If you do enough simulacrum, eventually you will run into mod that will kill you.
/ourcriminal/
life as es on monsters, fuck that so annoying
Honestly the extreme amount of RNG rippy mods, them being able to stack on top of some mods just outright bricking builds just isnt fun.
The fact it still exists is mind boggling to me. Does anyone actually enjoying rolling their maps?
It serves no function. You can make maps harder/slower without making them so inconsistent and build bricking.
10% less exp league
Best way to play game
Buy 5 ways to desired level, treat portals as health bars
Too much bs in the game to deal with defensively if u wanna comfortably do content n make monies
Get cod portal
Stop playing, if you wanna stop dying. I’m playing one of the tangiest characters I’ve ever played this league and I still get 1 shot from time to time. And these crucible monsters sometimes feel stronger than the eater of worlds or Exarch bosses.
If it's from time to time, what's the problem? Should you be immune to damage?
@@aoibheall55 any time I attempt crucible or anytime I attemp a boss. Literally every time. I got no problems with other content, as I play a very tangy character.
The main reason why people are often dying is that Poe is "optimized" for 3% of builds, mainly 500k+ effective Pinnacle life pool, with 75block and preferably aegis aurora with 100k armor.
You can read info that there are 200+ skill gems in Poe, that is actually an joke, since you can be sure that 90% of them cant do all content. You want to play Detonate dead or RF? Well sorry, you can say goodbye to certain parts of game, good luck killing Sirius or Uber pinnacle bosses with it, or farm legion with Detonate dead.
Problem is streamers push their characters in dps and effective life pool too much, so amateur GGG doesnt know how to respond, so they modify game base on less than 1% of player pool.
meanwhile me sitting at 134 deaths with my flicker strike..
People aiming for 100 should check how carn did it on league start in one sitting. 52 hours from 1 to 100 from scratch. On SSF.
Blue maps are definitely mvp for exp. It's too difficult to control yellow maps for safety or it just plain cost too much to roll them to 4-6 safe mods all the time. Also yes, time spent rolling maps is time lost gaining exp in the next map.
This is what I noticed with carn speedrun to 100 in one sitting. Just run maps fast, don't die, keep everything safe. Roll for 2 mods that does nothing to you.
First
Game has some pretty broken mechanics. Even a full tank character with 7k life 150k armor full res gets one shot. You like wtf
No the reason I'm dying is I'm playing sc and idc.
1. Don’t play glass cannon.
2. Unless you are playing immortal build, try to develop a habit of not getting hit. Learn to dodge even if you know you can tank some hit.
best way to stop dying? play hardcore xD
So you have 1410 deaths in a league that just started less than a month ago but somehow your lvl 99. This is when I'll say no life but in a nice way
I leveled to 98 in the first two days and then swapped to magic finding in wandering path maps.
or another way to say that PoE is literally his job.
Died like 3 times in a row to figure out i have 1200 chaos dot every flask use altar mod on auto used flasks lmfao
STOP RUNNING MF IN 8 MODS MAPS /thread