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Architecture is unbiased. It just is. However, maybe we should introduce some bias of our own to the World - like Voltaire, Kant, Curie, Einstein, Tesla, Rousseau, Nietzsche, Da Vinci, Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, Michelangelo, Galilei, Spinoza, Sartre, De Tocqueville, Hegel, Vagner, not to mention Pythagoras, Socrates, Archimedes, Plato and Aristotle. List goes on and on... And of course, when and if UK rejoins, we shall add Newton, Darwin, Hume, Locke, Mill and others. :) Unfortunately, there are limited amount of notes values. But we could group them - philosophers, humanists, scientists, mathematicians, artists, composers and print them all! Also, I would reserve 500€ banknote for notable women.
Me too, but as long as they keep the colors and proportions ot the existing notes, I'll be happy with the new ones too. I hate the USD because all Notes are the same color and size, so you have to look through every not to finde the correct one.
I can remember with the previous redesign about a decade ago, I was at a cinema with my friends and I got a 5 euro bill back in the new style. I told them it was fake seeing the stubby 5 on the note he held, completely unaware of the fact they changed them up. My friend convinced me it was real and after some commotion and watching the film, we went to the Mc Donald's to find out if I got scammed or not (looking back, the world of a child is so much more adventurous). Those were some delicious chicken mcnuggets :P
I remember that the 5 and 20 notes used to look really similar back then, one was greenish-grey the other blueish-grey Sometimes people used to hand you 20 notes instead of 5 when changing your Money, it was fun
Actually I loved that design from the get go. It's paneuropean, no country is left out. It's historical, it tells us how special Europe is. It's all about gates and portals, it's about communication and collaboration between people. It was absolutely an amazing piece of design, if you ask me.
I do like the idea of the gates now that you describe it like that, but I don't think it's as paneuropean as it should be. But I do think flora and fauna are a better representation and would shift focus on the fact we share a lot of the same environment. Or perhaps geographical resources (mountains, rivers, natural formations) that span across several coutnries? The architecture is notably more predominant in Western European countries, though not absent elsewhere. I think right now is a vital moment for making Eastern members feel more like they are part of the Union. But of course, this is just my view as someone who is seeing skepticism around me grow.
@@MrMemo77full That growing scepticism has nothing to do with EU itself, I would say. Scepticism is the inevitable byproduct of the upcoming/ongoing fourth industrial revolution. Extremely highly qualified workers are in high demand, extremely low qualified workers are also in high demand now, but everyone in the middle is left out and it's only going to be worse from here on. Such drastic circumstances like the one we live in nowadays provoke people to blame anybody they can find: Mexicans, the EU, socialists, Muslims, politicians, America, scientists - anybody. But unfortunately none of them is to blame. Social/economic/political scientists say that humanity hasn't seen an economic and social transformation like that since the dawn of industrial revolution and the spread of printing press. So the EU can do virtually nothing to stop that scepticism. Banknote design change certainly won't help much. This global trend is just so much bigger than anything the EU or any governing body in the world can possibly do. But back to the actual topic. I do like the environmental idea, you've mentioned. Environment id something everybody on the continent has in common. But I'm not sure about the fact that Russia, Canada and partially the US has pretty much the same nature. This idea lacks the feeling of European identity a bit. But I guess some clever design can overcome that obstacle and find a way to put it all together.
The current design is incredibly boring and lifeless. In a way, it accurately captures the EU's spirit. An entity without humans made of only faceless buildings, a cold bureaucratic empire that only exists to promote trade and economic exchanges (bridges). There's nothing special about it, it only smashes together all of our cultures and heritage to create some kind of low quality ersatz.
I agree. Perhaps they could consider refreshing it at the 100 year anniversary of the adaptation of the Euro or something. But for heaven's sake, the symbolism, and the celebration of its own unique culture, all transmitted from bank notes design, is utter genius.
Unnecessary but mildly interesting sidestory: The European bills depict bridges that symbolically mean coorperation and transnationality. Not one of the bridges on the eurobills existed so not one region could claim reference. This led an architect to construct the bridges - as shown on the bills- in the small city of Spijkenisse, South Holland. This de facto means everyone in the E.U. pays in a currency that boasts about South-Hollandic architecture.
As long as they keep different colours and don't have every bill be green like the USD, I don't care what's on it. It will take ages for them to be released anyways.
Well, I will go one step further and add this: as long as they keep *the same* different colours. That was something they did right when transitioning to the Europa series, and the same should apply to any new design they may come up with.
No matter if it takes a it long. The 2nd gen design has just finished rolling out across all banknotes. My the time they agree on something the new cycle can start all over.
i feel this is going to end in two ways 1) eu will decide on some bland new-europe-y design that no one will particularly like 2) we will have public-opinion-voting bs which is gonna end up backfiring epically (boaty mcboatface anyone?) and eu will decide on some bland new-europe-y design that no one will particularly like edit - important, just because i think it's gonna be bland-y, not-likeable design, i'm not saying it's gonna be BAD design. just - not-what-it-could've-been type of design
I really rolled my eyes at the quote at the end (I don't need to identify with my banknotes, what a joke). This is the only way it will go and I'm not looking forward. It's clear they're just trying to make a splash. Maybe feeling not as relevant?
@Markus Dressler - you've described some very believable scenarios (unless they manage to frick up in a particularly innovative and destructive way) but I think they really need a design for the 1,000€, 2,000€, 10,000€, 50,000€, 100,000€ and the 50,000,000,000€ notes. 📈
I'd love if they did the same thing they do with the coins where there's a common side which is the same for all European countries but then on the back each member state can have their own unique designs. (in keeping with the colour and denomination)
I feel like that's the main thing stopping Czechs from adopting euro. It's silly, I know. But the current Czech crown notes reflect the Czech history so much that giving it up feels like losing a leg to many Czechs...
@@Domihork then there's a bonus to it. Honestly I'd love to see this because the euro notes are just dull. Ireland's old pound notes looked unique and characteristic by comparison. So yeah. I'd like to see some creativity in the notes
Designs more relatable to a wider European audience? Those architectural motifs can be found in the styles of prominent buildings all across Europe, and surprisingly are visible to people of any age. Buildings are a universal, even more than bridges. Each country might not have all of them, but each country has at least some of them, and all are quintessentially European, from the Classical columns to the Industrial omni-glass. This redesign can only be less relatable.
These buildings don't exist and the architectural styles don't differ much from one another. The only banknote that showed a unique architectural style was the 500 banknote and it was removed from circulation. The overall design is very dull, lifeless and just plain boring. There are many other things that can bring ourselves together and elicit pride such as nature (plants, animals, landscapes), our space program, the countless scientific discoveries made by European scientists etc.
banks definitely don't want to abolish cash. the 'imminent death of cash' rhetoric is mostly coming from crypto bandwagoners. cash is absolutely critical to have as a redundant method in the event of an attack on the electronic and network systems.
In recent years, with Mastercard or Visa having IT problems, one is always happy to have a little cash with them. Also, crypto is far too volatile to be a currency. If Musk tweets, the amount you could buy a nice car with either is now only worth enough for a bus ticket, or you can buy the whole car manufacturer..
@@frankkobold crypto is going through a bit of a hype phase now. very few people investing in them is interested in using it as an actual currency, but instead hoping to get lucky with some profits. but everyday there are more losers than winners.
IMO the underlying tech of crypto should be a building block for any digital money (not like the China's digital Yuan, which is basically centralised digitalised money) the digital ledger and wallets should be a building block for such a money... it's basically what we already have but more secure from fraud and scams as well as aiding financial crime investigations ( in my mind, the "wallet address" would act like an IP currently, you could track the party related to the "wallet" but you might not know who is it unless you warrant search it deeper or have it on the other end) As for the deeper details don't ask me, ain't well verse in the financial building blocks, just know crypto as a building block is the future but not as it is (farming issues) right now
@@PrograError the thing is: blockchain requires a lot of calculation power, no matter how you design it, especially the bigger (the transaction history/) it gets. Which makes it impractical in the real world. While the current digital payment just needs 1x minus, 1x plus, processed instandly (simplified). Blockchain is a great concept itself (especially for complex supply chains with many different service providers and interactions). But as a foundation for a widespread currency? Never, the underlying concept itself is not practical, no matter the implementation. And that's just from the practicality of the technology itself (which I admire, simple but amazing idea). Excluding the question of morality, if every transaction should be easily tracked (against crime) or not (since crime will find its way either way but huge loss of freedom of not being tracked), which is separate
@@frankkobold Crypto IS viable, as long as crypto doesn't mean Bitcoin. Which it does to a lot of ignorant people (you). It's not that difficult to make crypto version pegged to a currency (or remain stably or increase 1% per year...), and it's already happened (USDT). The tech just needs some more hard boned background systems to make sure no single person has control over it.
In Ireland I thought cash was becoming obsolete, especially once COVID hit, cards became mandatory, but now living between Germany & Austria for a year & cash is king here, just as much among young people too.
I remember how much you could get for a few punt But, I don't feel it's obsolete. Only in the hellhole counties such as Dublin & Roscommon is cash obsolete. It's rather useful in Cork, especially where I've lived most my life in Kinsale. Though, in the Netherlands, cash was essentially useless.
IMO, while living in a cash is king country in SE Asia, as much as it's the young people not using digital payments, it's also the retailers who are often the older generations and not as tech adapt. there's only so much younger people can use digitally while living in a cash society. government can throw the carrot, but will the retailers bite? barrier to entry and to maintain the systems need to be much lower plus digital payment meant internet connectivity and knowledge... Case studies for reference, Singapore's Smart Nation Initiative and India's digital services.
@@calibvr _"hellhole counties such as Dublin & Roscommon"_ I think you need to get out onto the streets of Kinsale and join everyone else skipping naked through the gold paved streets throwing petals until all the rage fades garsun. Don't worry, the dome will keep all the hordes of jackeens out.
It is, but guess relevance was fading and they needed some headlines, to get people talking/thinking about this sort of stuff again? Basically publicity bs
I think cash is definitly still usefull but it seems like a waste of time and recourses to change the design, after all the look of the money doesn't matter nearly as much as it's function
Well, a regular redesign is always necessary, alone for new safety features. And the pics on it are nice symbolism for cooperation, but for me that's more a side benefit. Plus, I hope for Canadian style money, which you can put into water without worries
Yeah, not just Canadian… also Australian (which invented them), NZ, Switzerland, UK, Indonesia, Mexico, Malaysia, Chile, Morocco, Botswana… pretty much everywhere I've been in recent years, except Europe and the US. The US may never give up their drab B&W photocopy single-sized paperlike notes (weird, since US banking and payment systems are so 2005-magnetic strips and cheques are still in use) but hopefully Europe will catch up.
There is a reason why all of the structures on the notes are fictional. Either the new notes will be equally estranging to everyone, or there will be a lot of drama.
@@_blank-_ It is boring and soulless on purpose. The plant will hold some significance that some will like more than others. It does not even need to be offensive to the others, just less meaningful, to cause political issues. The design must be completely void of meaning to avoid these issues.
@@_blank-_ You could have midges, adders, Lion's Mane jellyfish for Scandinavia, Aconite and Solanum, Japanese Knotweed to show diversity, rats and mice, cockroaches, ticks, wasps, Bindweed. Why not?
Finding a theme that fits all is hard. A few are the continent itself, a late medieval knight on a horse, the Mediterranean/Baltic seas, wine/vineyards, a coat of arms (with a general design), the eagle standard of the Roman empire, the western/orthodox/protestant christian crosses together, the classic scale representing trade. The issue is you cannot pick specific places or items for each note cause that would create a ranking between nations. Tbh the paper currency should be local just as the coins are, it would be much more interesting and represent the continent the best.
It might be a pain to operate with though. If there's ~20 different version of banknotes in circulation that could cause issues. I personally don't really care for this fake culture lol. It's banknotes, they don't need to be deep. And there's not much for them to deep about when they encompass so much. Just another attempt to get more relevance and cultural ground.
They can focus on nature. Plants, animals and geographical features such as rivers, seas, mountains, landscapes won't create controversy. They can also sprinkle some Greco-Roman mythology or showcase some EU projects like the European Space Agency.
@@crazydragy4233 And these architectural styles aren't present everywhere either. I prefer real places to be represented even if they are not in my country rather than fake soulless, generic buildings. Animals also exist across national borders. The banknotes could follow a theme from Northern Europe to the Mediterranean Sea. Or each note can showcase different species from a type of animals (birds, mammals, fish, reptiles, amphibians). There are many possible ways. I'd accept anything other than these ugly buildings.
@@_blank-_ I sincerely disagree. Nothing is more uglier and soulless than the "modern" copy pasted architectural style promoted everywhere or these fake 'culture' moments but go off.
"of all ages and background" yeah, because European architecture is not enough European (or and that's more likely, too much European). Like really, there isn't any other thing that is as undivisive as our common pattern from history of architecture. Maybe one or two banknotes should contain some example of eastern, orthodox architecture (as they have quite different architecture and that style is present in Eastern Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, parts of Croatia, Greece, Slovakia etc.). Euro look like this, because it just don't want to make any controversies - that's why there is not any person on this banknote or symbole. Someone could say yhat this is boring, but this is banknote, something that is utilitarian. Only thing that could be present on those banknotes other than history of architecture is animals or plants but even with that you would need to be careful because different countries and regions use animals and plants as their own symbole (like clover which is symbole of Ireland, Bull which is symbole of Spain etc.) Including any person on those banknotes would just divide people and grew resentment, because in history of Europe there is not any person that liked every country in Europe and if that person would be like that and be pro-federalist, that would marginalise MAJORITY of people in EU, because majority of people in EU identify themselfs more with their nation or ethnic group, than with European Union.
Yes, the possibilities for historical characters are mind boggling. I would include Jan Sobieski, Alexander Nevsky, King Lazar, Constantine and JustinIan, Cyril and Methodius, King Louis IX - never mind that they are non EU.
Simone Veil, first president of the EU parliament, French Health minister in the 70s, Holocaust survivor. She would be a wonderful symbol on our currency. Though I can imagine some bigoted people not liking that idea because she gave her name to the law authorizing abortions in France.
@@jolyon_lb1423 you just clearly presented person who is controversial and closely related to one of states in EU. Calling someone with different views "bigoted" is not the best idea if you want to create currency that will be accepted and used by everyone :) There is many, many better people than reactionary like Simone Veil. Really, as radical leftist, I could accept right and left people on currency, but not liberals plz. Olso I don't really think that it would be good Idea to put any person on currency of many states that doesn't have anything in common. Why would Lithuanians use currency with Simone Veil? Why not Robesspierre or Karl Marx?
@@jolyon_lb1423 There is nobody that is not going to be disliked by someone. What is your definition of bigotry? Incidentally, what is your take on the EU flag and its Roman Catholic symbolism?
I really don't like the idea of them changing it just to be more "representative" of everyone, that's quite clearly just code for them wanting to make it look more modern, but a lot of people really don't like the more modern looking banknotes some countries have introduced. The current Euro notes look good (same can't be said the coins though), I hope the ones they end up replacing them with don't look meh.
@@nikolavideomaker I would argue that all of these styles do feature plentifully outside of Western Europe. Classical architecture, for example, is originally from Greece, which certainly can't be considered to be in the west, and examples of surviving original classical structures stretch out into the Middle East. Some styles are certainly not present in the entirety of Europe, but they are all present to a reasonable degree in most countries in the EU. It's not like styles such as timber-framed houses are there, which feature heavily in England, France and Germany but not many other places, so I don't think it's a that valid a criticism that other styles limited to specific regions aren't included. I would certainly not be against having specifically Eastern/Southern architectural styles on some notes, in fact I think it would be a good idea to notes with different buildings on them based on the country they were printed in (like the coins), but that doesn't mean they should scrap the current ones all together for the sake of equality. Sorry for the long post btw
I’m young and I don’t see the point of the new design. The current design is really good. Both neutral to all citizens and reflective of the continent’s history.
Related to all ages and backgrounds . .. doesn't sound that promising This often mean it's probably only going to make sense in the mind of a mall group of moralistic toddlers. Just keep it neutral. I think we have seen enough inclusion by exclusion
If it's about things outside of Europe I'll be pissed. A historical theme is already a cool idea maybe just have drawings of the greatest rulers of Europe (caesar, Napoleon, etc) but we're probably gonna get stupid shit
@@nojnavick One of the bridges used as a "template" (or "illegally traced, got caught, hastily redesigned") in the existing notes is from outside of Europe.
Even if some countries are increasingly turning into cashless societies, cash should NEVER be phased out. It should always be possible to pay with cash.
Why, especially in a pandemic? I'm seeing more and more cash-free vendors, which is natural and good. They're more hygienic, less of a crime target, and quicker and more secure for everyone, especially people with vision difficulties. It's fine if you like to use cash, but then why not also trade with rice and camels?
Because it is not guaranteed that a nation will always remain free and democratic? A big part of paying with cash is the anonymity it provides. A state in which everything is digital could easily decide to block certain groups of people from using particular services for example, or track exactly who is buying what at any given time. Another reason: In an event that strikes our electricity distribution systems like during a war, a solar flare, a natural disaster, ... anything that has the potential for long periods of time with unreliable electricity supply, a cashless society will have massive problems. If cash is still in use, banks could kind of still keep somewhat operational and let you withdraw some of your savings in cash so that you are still able to buy groceries for example. Just two reasons of the top of my head so fuck off with your "why not trade with camels" attitude.
Waste of time, having old architecture on the Banknotes is relatable for most Europeans, because this continent is chock full of old architecture. Compared to the rest of the world Europe does feel like a museum. Having New banknotes with new designs is just lying to ourselves. Also, it completely ignores the need for a proper digital currency. I don't want to imagine how many resources will be wasted in designing this and adapting the currency production of the mints.
I am guessing the only way to go is either flora, or fauna. Europe has such a fraught history that if architecture no longer cuts it (and that was a bit risqué, but apparently still bland enough not to raise any issues), nature is the only logical step. And if they really want to go full self-referential and educative about it, maybe they can save the higher denominations for important historical moments in the EU's creation and integration process, like the Treaty of Lisbon (being from Lisbon I'm obviously a bit biased, but hey, if they want to be inclusive, they can always throw Maastricht and Rome in there as well).
i would say this is unnecessary, a waste of time and money (ironically) the current design is very generic (european wise), which allows every country in europe to adopt them without issue. there is that old saying "if it aint broken, dont fix it", and this is a clear example of that.
The Europa Series design looks good and has solid security features. Currently I don't see the need to update them. Probably they got envious on the swiss franc's ninth banknotes series which look fantastic.
As long as they make them out of paper like Neanderthals the design doesn't really matters. Polymer based which is resistant to water and tearing is the most important feature but the paper producers lobby is strong in EU
As a user of both pound sterling and euro Bank notes I prefer by far paper based notes. Polymers notes just feels something cheap and look like cutouts of a plastic bag! Paper has a much nicer texture to me.
I might have a few ideas: European animals, important historical personalities for Europe (leaders, artists, etc.), landscapes (Alps, Baltic Sea, ...), one important cultural building of each nation (Eiffel Tower, Brandenburg Gate, ...) european inventions (zeppelin, first car, Montgolfier hot air balloon, ...)
The whole point of the old designs was to make them neutral, with none of the buildings being real and only representing architectural styles. There are too few notes to represent every member country and being "assigned" a note of low value could also ruffle some feathers. I don't think there will be any design that is explicitly one nation.
The whole idea of the bridges was to make sure that no design belongs to a certain country. If you're putting real people or real buildings you're going against that idea.
Well, you're right. Of all the ideas I have suggested, the most likely would be landscapes and animals, although that goes against the neutral as well. I'm curious what will come out in the end.
Leaders is a tough cookie considering the history. Most of them are famous for rolling over a neighbor or two, after all. Imagine a pole having to pay with a Bismarck bill. The whole idea is a minefield.
I'd like to cast my vote right now for the "best sandwiches" motif. Second choice; "funny shaped vegetables" and in third place would be "worst potholes."
2:00 the fact that the apple bank note won in the "Funny Shaped Vegetables" category is pretty on theme for how the UE take care to check that their banknotes respect the category. The banknotes with bridges on them weren't supposed to show existing bridges. But, they did, and it took some times before someone noticed what the banknote designer did. 99% Invisible has an episode on it (458 - Real Fake Bridges).
i really like the design of the current bills. But when i saw the old bills of the dutch ´Gulden´ which was used before the euro, i think there´s a lot to redesign since they´re looking absolutely freaking cool
The oldest Euro notes were, from a design point of view, extremely pleasant. They were very homogenous, very recognisable and very original. The touch ups needed to make them more secure have messed horribly with the original design, making them an ugly patchwork of a thousand colours. The new design will of course incorporate new technology (there's tons of technology in a banknote) but will probably serve to remedy the mess of the second series. What Ms Lagarde says is just the usual politically correct nonsense.
I'd suggest you do a co-operation with Half-asleep Chris maybe discussing possible future designs, a future theme, or even what a 21st-century banknote should look like, which features it should crucially have (and why).
I wonder, psychologically, where approximately the line runs between things we think are acceptable on banknotes, like architecture, and which we think is too frivolous, like dogs of Europe.
I like the current Euro designs, but I would change the notes a bit and instead of fictional architectonic monuments, I would use actual ones. Other thing that could happen would be using actual important Figures in European History (eg. Julius Caesar, Charlemagne, some navigators from the XV and XVI century, Louis XIV, Napoleon, etc.)
Using important figures is not possible without starting a lot of drama. Not only some countries would be excluded, but many historical figures are also controversial.
I wish they would do the same thing as with the coins. One side of the banknote would be the same for each banknote and the other side has room for every country to put something on it representing something from their country. Like a landmark or a historic figure or whatever.
Boats of the ages! Would love to have banknotes with triremes, drakkr, age of sail ships of the line, ocean steamer, bismarck style battleships and modern supertankers on the on the notes.
@@kamilszadkowski8864 which would be: Andorra, Austria, Czech Republic, Hungary, Luxembourg, San Marino, Slovakia. Then let us look at history, to the time Austria, Hungary, Czech Republic, and slovakia all was part of a bogger empire for hundreds of years, with ample access to sea routes through their other non-eu territories. San marino got an ocean view and an italian harbour right outside their border. And Luxembourg have traded via rivers for centuries. Sea routes have been a prerequisite for trade and welfare for longer than it has not. Even today, most our trade go by sea. Rivers and coasts were the highways of economy.
@@w0t3rdog Being part of a bigger empire doesn't mean anything, especially when many see those empires as former occupiers and oppressors. The Euro bills are supposed to be relatable to all Europeans (currently using Euro). Even some countries with access to the Sea don't have a strong "sea country" identity typical for former colonizers like France or Spain. On top of that, some of the ship types/designs you proposed are literally specific to one or a couple countries only.
@@kamilszadkowski8864 absolutely. But they have been relevant over a massive geographical area. Triremes roamed the mediterranian, went outside the strait of gibraltar both north and south. Any country with a sea border under the empire would be accustomed to seeing them in their harbours, both leaving trading and transporting troops. Drakkr have been coming as traders and raiders all along the european atlantic coast, and they entered the mediterranian, raiding and trading as they went. They sailed/rowed up the rivers, founding cities and kingdoms, and reached byzantium and beyond. The various ship variants all represent new eras of trade, exploration and warfare in Europes history. (And unlike the current system, with countries making their own bills, with their own landmarks... I would say, various seagoing vessels would be the most universal common denominator in Europe.)
1st : I like the design as it is, yes upgrade it for security purposes but not redesign of the theme 2nd : bridges and gates (that connect us) is good symbolism. The fact none of them are real is unifying that no country is represented. 3rd the idea of styles is also unifying and push anyone to think about who we are (where we come from) while pointing: "look at history = look at your own city". Each one of us (even in small towns) can just walk out to city centre and see all of those styles. I can do video about it. I live in Czechia in 80 000 ppl city. Each of us can see it around and see it (again) as unifying across Europe. I will maybe do a video about it how easy it is to find all of them and it is something all around us (visual) = close to us everyday no matter the country to think about it. Vegetables? ... idk ... what Finish people would think about it :D ? you know .. I really think architecture is something visual, majestic, historic and unifying that will be hard to replace and I really dont want it. New gates? ok, but let it be history + architecture. Thx :) .. the symbolism is awesome, just briliant (history + commonality + visually on spot in everyday life + chronological from smallest to biggest value) + you didnt mention 500 eur note, it is not used by regular people but still it exists and should be shown in video. If they decide on veggies, I bet they will find some purple one too :D
@@kamilszadkowski8864 yeah the sentence is confusing... I meant "we all can see it (the styles) in our (European)towns, yes some lack the classic period, but the main point is, the evolution of the styles (even one missing) is everywhere and as Europe yes you find all. But i think all of us feel attachment to it on our personál level. It is not something foreign or that does not mean anything in the nation. I mean the buildings (gates/bridges) always have some national significance and it is something that we all share. Yes classical style not everywhere
I know this might cause some tension but it would be cool if they featured historical landmarks. Yes, there are fears that as there are only 6 notes but 19 countries, only a small number would be represented but... still i think it would be cool.
We didn't forget! As of 2014, the ECB stopped printing new €500 bills and in 2019 the EU stopped issuing the notes at all. They also weren't included in the mid-2010s refresh we mentioned in the video, so we thought they weren't really worth including (as presumably they also won't be included in the new collection of votes) - Jack
The reason the 500€ notes were discontinued was money laundering and smuggling. Such high denominations had become too popular with shady people smuggling money in briefcases (or envelopes etc.) where stacks of 500€ notes had obvious benefits over stacks of only $100 U.S. notes due to limited space. The problem still persists to some degree with the 200€ notes so these might be discontinued as well, eventually.
I hope they introduce a €1 banknote. Maybe plants and fauna as the new theme? Really glad that cash is still being supported - fed up of this attitude that cashless is inevitable when cash is so useful!
The democratic participation is interesting for this new "design", led by the EU. Pitty that's only for disapearing bank notes, and not for main subjects...
Personally i d like it if every member state could have their own design like they do with coins. Like in Britain: there is legally only pound sterling but there is english design and scottish design. Id like to see that for all 20 members of yhe eurozone.
I keep hoping they'll finally put people on the notes. There are lots of people in European history who have been significant to the history of the entire Union, the continent or the entire world. You can start with Robert Schuman, under the heading of "blindingly obvious".
I love banknotes, and would like the new Euro to highlight modern European lifestyle, like high education, infrastructure, healthcare, saving environment and equality.
@@tonyjohansson7567 Maybe European animals? Fits the current pro-environmental agenda, is not controversial, represents the common natural heritage of all Europeans, and so on. You know, a stag, lynx, European bison. They all look quite majestic as well.
So... bridges and windows are not relatable to people of all ages, because... Now, what could possibly be a broad, unbiased theme for all europeans to share on the bills? I mean, there's already the liberty of each country designing the back of the coins at their will - which personaly I find great. Does this mean that bills could also have a national side, and an european side? And still, what would that national side be? Or the whole bill? Monuments are particular, historical figures are particular. Heroes in one country can be villains in others. One era can have multiple key players (how many XV/XVI navigators could we have, for instance, giving that Portugal and Spain have loads of them). Seems to me like a complicated and unnecessary idea...
Two words really come to mind: woke and garbage. On a ridiculously optimistic note though (pun intended), I'd really like to see some plants and animals. Scientists and artists might also be welcome, as long as they're proper ones.
Last time, apparently they used fictional bridges, to symbolize unity, but not grant favoritism to any specific region. Whatever they go with, it's probably supposed to be neutral, as not to imply that any member state is more deserving than the rest.
Sounds exciting, but yeah I personally don’t use cash anyway so I don’t reallyyy care too much what the notes look like as long as it’s vaguely European-esque
Potential bad news for Spijkenisse. The bridges on the banknotes didn't exist to avoid disputes among the various countries. Then Spijkenisse, a Dutch town, decided to build them all. But if there is a redesign to the banknotes, there might be different bridges on it, or no bridges at all.
@@2.5chainz Do you know what life means? They are non-existing generic buildings, represented in the most boring way, with no reference to the cultural and historical background (Ancient Roman/Greek religions, Christianity, industrial revolution) that made these architectural styles possible. There are no human figures. No animals or plants. These banknotes are lifeless. Period.
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New pre rolled £50 note with Boris Johnson on it.
I can't be arsed to do an actual joke but you get the idea
Will there be Voting for the Design? Do you know where? On the ECB Web-Site?
How can I be sure that it is being applied. It says: “coupon code applied successfully” but I only see two pin badges in my basket.
@@julianshepherd2038 that already kind of exists
As an architect, I think we should keep the current theme. Totally unbiased here
As someone who knows nothing about architecture, I agree with you.
As someone who admires architecture but doesn't like the generic and nameless buildings showcased on the banknote, I disagree.
I feel like they are going to "go woke" when they say "all ages and backgrounds". Better not.
Architecture is unbiased. It just is. However, maybe we should introduce some bias of our own to the World - like Voltaire, Kant, Curie, Einstein, Tesla, Rousseau, Nietzsche, Da Vinci, Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, Michelangelo, Galilei, Spinoza, Sartre, De Tocqueville, Hegel, Vagner, not to mention Pythagoras, Socrates, Archimedes, Plato and Aristotle. List goes on and on... And of course, when and if UK rejoins, we shall add Newton, Darwin, Hume, Locke, Mill and others. :)
Unfortunately, there are limited amount of notes values. But we could group them - philosophers, humanists, scientists, mathematicians, artists, composers and print them all! Also, I would reserve 500€ banknote for notable women.
@@koljarzg simp
I like the euro style tbh. It will be missed.
Me too, but as long as they keep the colors and proportions ot the existing notes, I'll be happy with the new ones too. I hate the USD because all Notes are the same color and size, so you have to look through every not to finde the correct one.
I always thought they could have made more of an effort to have them represent Europe, not just show some imaginary architecture.
Become a collector then. It's fun
@@reverendroar I'm still pissed that I let my 500€ note go, if I had known they were gonna get rid of them, I might have held onto it!
One of the best designs out there
I can remember with the previous redesign about a decade ago, I was at a cinema with my friends and I got a 5 euro bill back in the new style. I told them it was fake seeing the stubby 5 on the note he held, completely unaware of the fact they changed them up. My friend convinced me it was real and after some commotion and watching the film, we went to the Mc Donald's to find out if I got scammed or not (looking back, the world of a child is so much more adventurous). Those were some delicious chicken mcnuggets :P
I remember that the 5 and 20 notes used to look really similar back then, one was greenish-grey the other blueish-grey Sometimes people used to hand you 20 notes instead of 5 when changing your Money, it was fun
Riveting tale, what a lad
Are there even new 200s? The 50 still seemd kinda new
@@Lau2856. yes, the only note that wasn't updated was the 500, which is being phased out anyway
Actually I loved that design from the get go. It's paneuropean, no country is left out. It's historical, it tells us how special Europe is. It's all about gates and portals, it's about communication and collaboration between people. It was absolutely an amazing piece of design, if you ask me.
I do like the idea of the gates now that you describe it like that, but I don't think it's as paneuropean as it should be. But I do think flora and fauna are a better representation and would shift focus on the fact we share a lot of the same environment. Or perhaps geographical resources (mountains, rivers, natural formations) that span across several coutnries?
The architecture is notably more predominant in Western European countries, though not absent elsewhere. I think right now is a vital moment for making Eastern members feel more like they are part of the Union. But of course, this is just my view as someone who is seeing skepticism around me grow.
@@MrMemo77full That growing scepticism has nothing to do with EU itself, I would say. Scepticism is the inevitable byproduct of the upcoming/ongoing fourth industrial revolution. Extremely highly qualified workers are in high demand, extremely low qualified workers are also in high demand now, but everyone in the middle is left out and it's only going to be worse from here on. Such drastic circumstances like the one we live in nowadays provoke people to blame anybody they can find: Mexicans, the EU, socialists, Muslims, politicians, America, scientists - anybody. But unfortunately none of them is to blame. Social/economic/political scientists say that humanity hasn't seen an economic and social transformation like that since the dawn of industrial revolution and the spread of printing press. So the EU can do virtually nothing to stop that scepticism. Banknote design change certainly won't help much. This global trend is just so much bigger than anything the EU or any governing body in the world can possibly do.
But back to the actual topic. I do like the environmental idea, you've mentioned. Environment id something everybody on the continent has in common. But I'm not sure about the fact that Russia, Canada and partially the US has pretty much the same nature. This idea lacks the feeling of European identity a bit. But I guess some clever design can overcome that obstacle and find a way to put it all together.
@@freshname rochambeau?
The current design is incredibly boring and lifeless. In a way, it accurately captures the EU's spirit. An entity without humans made of only faceless buildings, a cold bureaucratic empire that only exists to promote trade and economic exchanges (bridges). There's nothing special about it, it only smashes together all of our cultures and heritage to create some kind of low quality ersatz.
I agree. Perhaps they could consider refreshing it at the 100 year anniversary of the adaptation of the Euro or something. But for heaven's sake, the symbolism, and the celebration of its own unique culture, all transmitted from bank notes design, is utter genius.
For those that don't know, the current gen of notes is the 2nd redesign. There was even an original design before.
I mean if you’re from a european country you would remember them it wasn’t that long ago
you think we don't know that
In fact you can still find the old notes in circulation.
@@kingzero3098 i got the old 5 euro note yesterday from the farmers market . Kept it as a souvenir
I have those, they just look less refined to me.
Unnecessary but mildly interesting sidestory:
The European bills depict bridges that symbolically mean coorperation and transnationality. Not one of the bridges on the eurobills existed so not one region could claim reference. This led an architect to construct the bridges - as shown on the bills- in the small city of Spijkenisse, South Holland. This de facto means everyone in the E.U. pays in a currency that boasts about South-Hollandic architecture.
Ior more likely that architecture in Limburg embraced European architecture and symbols
@@NoName-hg6cc That's another way to look at it! Either way, the bridges on the (original) eurobills are now all in Spijkenisse.
They are in South Holland, not in Limburg
Interesting tho
edited, apologies to my South-Hollandic and Limburgish friends for mixing up the two. 😅
It's in Spijkenisse, South Holland.
As long as they keep different colours and don't have every bill be green like the USD, I don't care what's on it. It will take ages for them to be released anyways.
Well, I will go one step further and add this: as long as they keep *the same* different colours. That was something they did right when transitioning to the Europa series, and the same should apply to any new design they may come up with.
or worse, make them all green AND the exact same size. Why are the US like this?
@@voxelfusion9894 it makes counting pain in the ass.
Like wtf us
I think they should keep the sizes and basic colours as they are, and I think they probably will tbh
No matter if it takes a it long. The 2nd gen design has just finished rolling out across all banknotes. My the time they agree on something the new cycle can start all over.
i feel this is going to end in two ways
1) eu will decide on some bland new-europe-y design that no one will particularly like
2) we will have public-opinion-voting bs which is gonna end up backfiring epically (boaty mcboatface anyone?) and eu will decide on some bland new-europe-y design that no one will particularly like
edit - important, just because i think it's gonna be bland-y, not-likeable design, i'm not saying it's gonna be BAD design.
just - not-what-it-could've-been type of design
Or some political correctness bullshit design...
I really rolled my eyes at the quote at the end (I don't need to identify with my banknotes, what a joke). This is the only way it will go and I'm not looking forward.
It's clear they're just trying to make a splash. Maybe feeling not as relevant?
I don't want my money to be more than "bland"
Pepe the frog on the 100€ would be cool
@Markus Dressler - you've described some very believable scenarios (unless they manage to frick up in a particularly innovative and destructive way) but I think they really need a design for the 1,000€, 2,000€, 10,000€, 50,000€, 100,000€ and the 50,000,000,000€ notes. 📈
But the "Ages and Styles" design is great... Can't they leave the theme and just change the building to something other than a bridge...
@@YellOw139 nah. Originally nonexistent bridges that some Dutch guy actually built.
I'd love if they did the same thing they do with the coins where there's a common side which is the same for all European countries but then on the back each member state can have their own unique designs. (in keeping with the colour and denomination)
I feel like that's the main thing stopping Czechs from adopting euro. It's silly, I know. But the current Czech crown notes reflect the Czech history so much that giving it up feels like losing a leg to many Czechs...
@@Domihork then there's a bonus to it.
Honestly I'd love to see this because the euro notes are just dull. Ireland's old pound notes looked unique and characteristic by comparison. So yeah. I'd like to see some creativity in the notes
@@Domihork i would say several countries felt the same way about their own banknotes/coins when they adopted the Euro.
this will increase forging and defeat the purpose of single currency
@@nabeelhasan6593 have you any proof it will increase forging? Again we already do all this with the coins. Look at a euro coin sometime.
Designs more relatable to a wider European audience? Those architectural motifs can be found in the styles of prominent buildings all across Europe, and surprisingly are visible to people of any age. Buildings are a universal, even more than bridges. Each country might not have all of them, but each country has at least some of them, and all are quintessentially European, from the Classical columns to the Industrial omni-glass. This redesign can only be less relatable.
idk i never cared about buildings that much
These buildings don't exist and the architectural styles don't differ much from one another. The only banknote that showed a unique architectural style was the 500 banknote and it was removed from circulation. The overall design is very dull, lifeless and just plain boring.
There are many other things that can bring ourselves together and elicit pride such as nature (plants, animals, landscapes), our space program, the countless scientific discoveries made by European scientists etc.
@@_blank-_ im for the science and space theme
Cash is not obsolete. It does enable people to do transactions without banks. That's why banks want to abolish cash.
I believe this obsoletion is not comming from bank transfers or bank cards, they are around for decades.
But from other ways of doing transactions.
@@PureAlbania All transactions that are not by cash are handled by banks.
@@neodym5809 not if i buy sth in btc
banks definitely don't want to abolish cash. the 'imminent death of cash' rhetoric is mostly coming from crypto bandwagoners. cash is absolutely critical to have as a redundant method in the event of an attack on the electronic and network systems.
@@neodym5809 At least where I come from there ain't no hookers of banks available, nor do the offer food nor drugs.
In recent years, with Mastercard or Visa having IT problems, one is always happy to have a little cash with them.
Also, crypto is far too volatile to be a currency. If Musk tweets, the amount you could buy a nice car with either is now only worth enough for a bus ticket, or you can buy the whole car manufacturer..
Exactly.
Everyone who mentions crypto as a viable currency instandly looses credibility
@@frankkobold crypto is going through a bit of a hype phase now. very few people investing in them is interested in using it as an actual currency, but instead hoping to get lucky with some profits. but everyday there are more losers than winners.
IMO the underlying tech of crypto should be a building block for any digital money (not like the China's digital Yuan, which is basically centralised digitalised money)
the digital ledger and wallets should be a building block for such a money... it's basically what we already have but more secure from fraud and scams as well as aiding financial crime investigations ( in my mind, the "wallet address" would act like an IP currently, you could track the party related to the "wallet" but you might not know who is it unless you warrant search it deeper or have it on the other end)
As for the deeper details don't ask me, ain't well verse in the financial building blocks, just know crypto as a building block is the future but not as it is (farming issues) right now
@@PrograError the thing is: blockchain requires a lot of calculation power, no matter how you design it, especially the bigger (the transaction history/) it gets.
Which makes it impractical in the real world.
While the current digital payment just needs 1x minus, 1x plus, processed instandly (simplified).
Blockchain is a great concept itself (especially for complex supply chains with many different service providers and interactions).
But as a foundation for a widespread currency? Never, the underlying concept itself is not practical, no matter the implementation.
And that's just from the practicality of the technology itself (which I admire, simple but amazing idea). Excluding the question of morality, if every transaction should be easily tracked (against crime) or not (since crime will find its way either way but huge loss of freedom of not being tracked), which is separate
@@frankkobold Crypto IS viable, as long as crypto doesn't mean Bitcoin. Which it does to a lot of ignorant people (you). It's not that difficult to make crypto version pegged to a currency (or remain stably or increase 1% per year...), and it's already happened (USDT). The tech just needs some more hard boned background systems to make sure no single person has control over it.
In Ireland I thought cash was becoming obsolete, especially once COVID hit, cards became mandatory, but now living between Germany & Austria for a year & cash is king here, just as much among young people too.
I remember the old Irish Coins, with Stag and Salmon, I wouldn't mind seen animals again.
I remember how much you could get for a few punt
But, I don't feel it's obsolete. Only in the hellhole counties such as Dublin & Roscommon is cash obsolete. It's rather useful in Cork, especially where I've lived most my life in Kinsale. Though, in the Netherlands, cash was essentially useless.
IMO, while living in a cash is king country in SE Asia, as much as it's the young people not using digital payments, it's also the retailers who are often the older generations and not as tech adapt.
there's only so much younger people can use digitally while living in a cash society. government can throw the carrot, but will the retailers bite? barrier to entry and to maintain the systems need to be much lower plus digital payment meant internet connectivity and knowledge...
Case studies for reference, Singapore's Smart Nation Initiative and India's digital services.
@@calibvr _"hellhole counties such as Dublin & Roscommon"_
I think you need to get out onto the streets of Kinsale and join everyone else skipping naked through the gold paved streets throwing petals until all the rage fades garsun. Don't worry, the dome will keep all the hordes of jackeens out.
But even in Ireland it's very much 50/50 in shops
Idunno I liked the "reboot" as it were, of the first euro designs. Isn't it a bit too soon to yet again do a redesign?
Completely agree
Unless the counterfeiters have gotten to the point where their fakes are working
I mean they announce it today but it’s gonna take a couple of years before we get these.
It is, but guess relevance was fading and they needed some headlines, to get people talking/thinking about this sort of stuff again? Basically publicity bs
Each note should have a portrait of either Berlin, Lisbon, Palermo, Helsinki, Stockholm, Rio, Denver or Nairobi as the biggest inside joke ever.
Oslo?
how about the king
Fun fact : Andrew Jackson hated the idea of a central bank in the US.
And yet his face is on the $20 notes. How ironic it is !
@@marioferreira7605 "representation" *double fingers*
I think cash is definitly still usefull but it seems like a waste of time and recourses to change the design, after all the look of the money doesn't matter nearly as much as it's function
Well, a regular redesign is always necessary, alone for new safety features.
And the pics on it are nice symbolism for cooperation, but for me that's more a side benefit.
Plus, I hope for Canadian style money, which you can put into water without worries
Yeah, not just Canadian… also Australian (which invented them), NZ, Switzerland, UK, Indonesia, Mexico, Malaysia, Chile, Morocco, Botswana… pretty much everywhere I've been in recent years, except Europe and the US. The US may never give up their drab B&W photocopy single-sized paperlike notes (weird, since US banking and payment systems are so 2005-magnetic strips and cheques are still in use) but hopefully Europe will catch up.
You know you can have beauty and function together right? Your mindset is the reason our modern world is an ugly human breaking machine.
There is a reason why all of the structures on the notes are fictional. Either the new notes will be equally estranging to everyone, or there will be a lot of drama.
Fun fact: a town in the Netherlands built bridges modeled after the ones on the notes as a practical joke. So they are no longer fictional.
I'm pretty sure plants, animals, landscapes won't make people mad. The current design is very boring and almost soulless.
@@_blank-_ It is boring and soulless on purpose. The plant will hold some significance that some will like more than others. It does not even need to be offensive to the others, just less meaningful, to cause political issues. The design must be completely void of meaning to avoid these issues.
@@_blank-_ You could have midges, adders, Lion's Mane jellyfish for Scandinavia, Aconite and Solanum, Japanese Knotweed to show diversity, rats and mice, cockroaches, ticks, wasps, Bindweed. Why not?
If there was drama or polarization they wouldn't even get through the consensus phase. So this is a non-issue.
Finding a theme that fits all is hard. A few are the continent itself, a late medieval knight on a horse, the Mediterranean/Baltic seas, wine/vineyards, a coat of arms (with a general design), the eagle standard of the Roman empire, the western/orthodox/protestant christian crosses together, the classic scale representing trade.
The issue is you cannot pick specific places or items for each note cause that would create a ranking between nations. Tbh the paper currency should be local just as the coins are, it would be much more interesting and represent the continent the best.
It might be a pain to operate with though. If there's ~20 different version of banknotes in circulation that could cause issues.
I personally don't really care for this fake culture lol. It's banknotes, they don't need to be deep. And there's not much for them to deep about when they encompass so much.
Just another attempt to get more relevance and cultural ground.
They can focus on nature. Plants, animals and geographical features such as rivers, seas, mountains, landscapes won't create controversy. They can also sprinkle some Greco-Roman mythology or showcase some EU projects like the European Space Agency.
@@_blank-_ But plants and animals often represent places... Geographical places are tied to specific locations...
@@crazydragy4233 And these architectural styles aren't present everywhere either. I prefer real places to be represented even if they are not in my country rather than fake soulless, generic buildings. Animals also exist across national borders. The banknotes could follow a theme from Northern Europe to the Mediterranean Sea. Or each note can showcase different species from a type of animals (birds, mammals, fish, reptiles, amphibians). There are many possible ways. I'd accept anything other than these ugly buildings.
@@_blank-_ I sincerely disagree. Nothing is more uglier and soulless than the "modern" copy pasted architectural style promoted everywhere or these fake 'culture' moments but go off.
10 bucks says the new design will be absolutely stupid
You're not going to get good odds on that bet.
"of all ages and background" yeah, because European architecture is not enough European (or and that's more likely, too much European). Like really, there isn't any other thing that is as undivisive as our common pattern from history of architecture. Maybe one or two banknotes should contain some example of eastern, orthodox architecture (as they have quite different architecture and that style is present in Eastern Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, parts of Croatia, Greece, Slovakia etc.).
Euro look like this, because it just don't want to make any controversies - that's why there is not any person on this banknote or symbole. Someone could say yhat this is boring, but this is banknote, something that is utilitarian. Only thing that could be present on those banknotes other than history of architecture is animals or plants but even with that you would need to be careful because different countries and regions use animals and plants as their own symbole (like clover which is symbole of Ireland, Bull which is symbole of Spain etc.)
Including any person on those banknotes would just divide people and grew resentment, because in history of Europe there is not any person that liked every country in Europe and if that person would be like that and be pro-federalist, that would marginalise MAJORITY of people in EU, because majority of people in EU identify themselfs more with their nation or ethnic group, than with European Union.
Exactly this.
It's sad that people are buying into this publicity stunt.
Yes, the possibilities for historical characters are mind boggling. I would include Jan Sobieski, Alexander Nevsky, King Lazar, Constantine and JustinIan, Cyril and Methodius, King Louis IX - never mind that they are non EU.
Simone Veil, first president of the EU parliament, French Health minister in the 70s, Holocaust survivor. She would be a wonderful symbol on our currency. Though I can imagine some bigoted people not liking that idea because she gave her name to the law authorizing abortions in France.
@@jolyon_lb1423 you just clearly presented person who is controversial and closely related to one of states in EU.
Calling someone with different views "bigoted" is not the best idea if you want to create currency that will be accepted and used by everyone :)
There is many, many better people than reactionary like Simone Veil. Really, as radical leftist, I could accept right and left people on currency, but not liberals plz.
Olso I don't really think that it would be good Idea to put any person on currency of many states that doesn't have anything in common. Why would Lithuanians use currency with Simone Veil? Why not Robesspierre or Karl Marx?
@@jolyon_lb1423 There is nobody that is not going to be disliked by someone. What is your definition of bigotry?
Incidentally, what is your take on the EU flag and its Roman Catholic symbolism?
The euro notes are amazing as they are, they don't need to change
Yet a note : 500 € notes still valid tender but not issued anymore .
I really don't like the idea of them changing it just to be more "representative" of everyone, that's quite clearly just code for them wanting to make it look more modern, but a lot of people really don't like the more modern looking banknotes some countries have introduced. The current Euro notes look good (same can't be said the coins though), I hope the ones they end up replacing them with don't look meh.
Well, it is true that it only really represents western europe. No Byzanthine, Mediterranean or Ottoman Architecture
Yeah, I don't like the look of the new $100, 50, and $10 notes as much as the ones I grew up with. The older ones are even better looking imo
tbh heat and waterproof polymer notes would be better than the cotton notes right now
@@nikolavideomaker I would argue that all of these styles do feature plentifully outside of Western Europe. Classical architecture, for example, is originally from Greece, which certainly can't be considered to be in the west, and examples of surviving original classical structures stretch out into the Middle East. Some styles are certainly not present in the entirety of Europe, but they are all present to a reasonable degree in most countries in the EU. It's not like styles such as timber-framed houses are there, which feature heavily in England, France and Germany but not many other places, so I don't think it's a that valid a criticism that other styles limited to specific regions aren't included. I would certainly not be against having specifically Eastern/Southern architectural styles on some notes, in fact I think it would be a good idea to notes with different buildings on them based on the country they were printed in (like the coins), but that doesn't mean they should scrap the current ones all together for the sake of equality.
Sorry for the long post btw
@@ayoCC Agreed, and it is still possible to make polymer notes that look good, I quite like the UK's ones.
I’m young and I don’t see the point of the new design. The current design is really good. Both neutral to all citizens and reflective of the continent’s history.
Neutral is boring.
made by committee designs are the worst
Too bad. I think the current themes are great, a nice and proud part of european history
So our history is fake generic buildings and not grandiose feats of architecture?
Related to all ages and backgrounds . .. doesn't sound that promising
This often mean it's probably only going to make sense in the mind of a mall group of moralistic toddlers.
Just keep it neutral. I think we have seen enough inclusion by exclusion
If it's about things outside of Europe I'll be pissed. A historical theme is already a cool idea maybe just have drawings of the greatest rulers of Europe (caesar, Napoleon, etc) but we're probably gonna get stupid shit
@@nojnavick One of the bridges used as a "template" (or "illegally traced, got caught, hastily redesigned") in the existing notes is from outside of Europe.
As long as they remember that africa and the middle east are not in europe....
Gonna likely be including more of Eastern Europe and the Balkans rather than mostly western architecture like the previous two rounds of designs.
I think it was more about "a compromise between all the EU/Eurozone members" then thinking about any small moralist group.
correction: The Euro bank notes have been in circulation since January 1st 2002, not 1999
Even if some countries are increasingly turning into cashless societies, cash should NEVER be phased out.
It should always be possible to pay with cash.
Why, especially in a pandemic? I'm seeing more and more cash-free vendors, which is natural and good. They're more hygienic, less of a crime target, and quicker and more secure for everyone, especially people with vision difficulties. It's fine if you like to use cash, but then why not also trade with rice and camels?
Because it is not guaranteed that a nation will always remain free and democratic? A big part of paying with cash is the anonymity it provides. A state in which everything is digital could easily decide to block certain groups of people from using particular services for example, or track exactly who is buying what at any given time.
Another reason: In an event that strikes our electricity distribution systems like during a war, a solar flare, a natural disaster, ... anything that has the potential for long periods of time with unreliable electricity supply, a cashless society will have massive problems. If cash is still in use, banks could kind of still keep somewhat operational and let you withdraw some of your savings in cash so that you are still able to buy groceries for example.
Just two reasons of the top of my head so fuck off with your "why not trade with camels" attitude.
Its also fine to pay cashless, I often pay with card as well, my point is it should be another convenient option, not the ONLY option.
I love the current design. Can't wait for the new one! Bring them on!
Waste of time, having old architecture on the Banknotes is relatable for most Europeans, because this continent is chock full of old architecture. Compared to the rest of the world Europe does feel like a museum. Having New banknotes with new designs is just lying to ourselves. Also, it completely ignores the need for a proper digital currency. I don't want to imagine how many resources will be wasted in designing this and adapting the currency production of the mints.
They're going to make it look like shit
I am guessing the only way to go is either flora, or fauna. Europe has such a fraught history that if architecture no longer cuts it (and that was a bit risqué, but apparently still bland enough not to raise any issues), nature is the only logical step. And if they really want to go full self-referential and educative about it, maybe they can save the higher denominations for important historical moments in the EU's creation and integration process, like the Treaty of Lisbon (being from Lisbon I'm obviously a bit biased, but hey, if they want to be inclusive, they can always throw Maastricht and Rome in there as well).
@@user-be1jx7ty7n They are all men. Feminists will be mad.
i would say this is unnecessary, a waste of time and money (ironically)
the current design is very generic (european wise), which allows every country in europe to adopt them without issue.
there is that old saying "if it aint broken, dont fix it", and this is a clear example of that.
The Europa Series design looks good and has solid security features. Currently I don't see the need to update them. Probably they got envious on the swiss franc's ninth banknotes series which look fantastic.
As long as they make them out of paper like Neanderthals the design doesn't really matters. Polymer based which is resistant to water and tearing is the most important feature but the paper producers lobby is strong in EU
As a user of both pound sterling and euro Bank notes I prefer by far paper based notes. Polymers notes just feels something cheap and look like cutouts of a plastic bag! Paper has a much nicer texture to me.
As a user of USD and sometimes CAD, paper money is much nicer than plastic. Plastic money melts!
How about water resistent paper then?
It's like they don't want time traveler's to become rich
I might have a few ideas:
European animals,
important historical personalities for Europe (leaders, artists, etc.),
landscapes (Alps, Baltic Sea, ...),
one important cultural building of each nation (Eiffel Tower, Brandenburg Gate, ...)
european inventions (zeppelin, first car, Montgolfier hot air balloon, ...)
The whole point of the old designs was to make them neutral, with none of the buildings being real and only representing architectural styles. There are too few notes to represent every member country and being "assigned" a note of low value could also ruffle some feathers. I don't think there will be any design that is explicitly one nation.
The whole idea of the bridges was to make sure that no design belongs to a certain country. If you're putting real people or real buildings you're going against that idea.
Well, you're right. Of all the ideas I have suggested, the most likely would be landscapes and animals, although that goes against the neutral as well. I'm curious what will come out in the end.
Leaders is a tough cookie considering the history. Most of them are famous for rolling over a neighbor or two, after all. Imagine a pole having to pay with a Bismarck bill. The whole idea is a minefield.
@@Shifty_ well... If you talk about creating unions, Bismarck would be a must have...
I'd like to cast my vote right now for the "best sandwiches" motif. Second choice; "funny shaped vegetables" and in third place would be "worst potholes."
ECB missed a chance 2 decades ago to call the euros as either ducats or solidi.
Or Sestertius
I get the feeling this was on purpose.
New bills should only portray Donatella Versace in various poses.
Let's bring art back.
2:00 the fact that the apple bank note won in the "Funny Shaped Vegetables" category is pretty on theme for how the UE take care to check that their banknotes respect the category.
The banknotes with bridges on them weren't supposed to show existing bridges. But, they did, and it took some times before someone noticed what the banknote designer did. 99% Invisible has an episode on it (458 - Real Fake Bridges).
i really like the design of the current bills. But when i saw the old bills of the dutch ´Gulden´ which was used before the euro, i think there´s a lot to redesign since they´re looking absolutely freaking cool
The oldest Euro notes were, from a design point of view, extremely pleasant.
They were very homogenous, very recognisable and very original.
The touch ups needed to make them more secure have messed horribly with the original design, making them an ugly patchwork of a thousand colours.
The new design will of course incorporate new technology (there's tons of technology in a banknote) but will probably serve to remedy the mess of the second series. What Ms Lagarde says is just the usual politically correct nonsense.
They are boring, generic and lifeless.
I'd suggest you do a co-operation with Half-asleep Chris maybe discussing possible future designs, a future theme, or even what a 21st-century banknote should look like, which features it should crucially have (and why).
I wonder, psychologically, where approximately the line runs between things we think are acceptable on banknotes, like architecture, and which we think is too frivolous, like dogs of Europe.
Dogs seem to work perfectly fine for cryptocurrencies.
Vegetables theme would be great. It could inspire the population to eat healthy.
I still have a few old notes, from before the current plasticy ones.
they need to introduce 2€ bankonote
I think the same. Maybe even 1€, but 2€ for sure.
"all ages and backgrounds"surely the 'backgrounds' represented for Europe should be European?
Cash doesn't crash, cash doesn't need internet, cash doesn't update, cash is the most straight forward way to pay
I like the current Euro designs, but I would change the notes a bit and instead of fictional architectonic monuments, I would use actual ones.
Other thing that could happen would be using actual important Figures in European History (eg. Julius Caesar, Charlemagne, some navigators from the XV and XVI century, Louis XIV, Napoleon, etc.)
Using important figures is not possible without starting a lot of drama. Not only some countries would be excluded, but many historical figures are also controversial.
The most important thing should be that the notes should be usable for Blind people.
New security features and designers and citizens can have fun with it. Why not?
For your edification: Iron and Glass architecture is called Ferro-Vitreous Architecture
I wish they would do the same thing as with the coins. One side of the banknote would be the same for each banknote and the other side has room for every country to put something on it representing something from their country. Like a landmark or a historic figure or whatever.
The current design is fine I hardly see much gain to changing it, especially when a lot of people don't even use the bank notes much anymore
Before asking our opinions about the new designs, they could have asked if we disliked the current one.
Boats of the ages!
Would love to have banknotes with triremes, drakkr, age of sail ships of the line, ocean steamer, bismarck style battleships and modern supertankers on the on the notes.
Totally relatable to all those landlocked countries...
@@kamilszadkowski8864 which would be: Andorra, Austria, Czech Republic, Hungary, Luxembourg, San Marino, Slovakia.
Then let us look at history, to the time Austria, Hungary, Czech Republic, and slovakia all was part of a bogger empire for hundreds of years, with ample access to sea routes through their other non-eu territories. San marino got an ocean view and an italian harbour right outside their border. And Luxembourg have traded via rivers for centuries.
Sea routes have been a prerequisite for trade and welfare for longer than it has not. Even today, most our trade go by sea. Rivers and coasts were the highways of economy.
@@w0t3rdog Being part of a bigger empire doesn't mean anything, especially when many see those empires as former occupiers and oppressors.
The Euro bills are supposed to be relatable to all Europeans (currently using Euro). Even some countries with access to the Sea don't have a strong "sea country" identity typical for former colonizers like France or Spain.
On top of that, some of the ship types/designs you proposed are literally specific to one or a couple countries only.
@@kamilszadkowski8864 absolutely. But they have been relevant over a massive geographical area. Triremes roamed the mediterranian, went outside the strait of gibraltar both north and south. Any country with a sea border under the empire would be accustomed to seeing them in their harbours, both leaving trading and transporting troops.
Drakkr have been coming as traders and raiders all along the european atlantic coast, and they entered the mediterranian, raiding and trading as they went. They sailed/rowed up the rivers, founding cities and kingdoms, and reached byzantium and beyond.
The various ship variants all represent new eras of trade, exploration and warfare in Europes history.
(And unlike the current system, with countries making their own bills, with their own landmarks... I would say, various seagoing vessels would be the most universal common denominator in Europe.)
I remember when the last design came in and the idiot in my local takeaway wouldn't give me my pizza because he thought it was fake.
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If there ever comes a public voting contest for the new Euro design I am definitely going to vote for funny shaped vegetables
1st : I like the design as it is, yes upgrade it for security purposes but not redesign of the theme
2nd : bridges and gates (that connect us) is good symbolism. The fact none of them are real is unifying that no country is represented.
3rd the idea of styles is also unifying and push anyone to think about who we are (where we come from) while pointing: "look at history = look at your own city". Each one of us (even in small towns) can just walk out to city centre and see all of those styles. I can do video about it. I live in Czechia in 80 000 ppl city. Each of us can see it around and see it (again) as unifying across Europe. I will maybe do a video about it how easy it is to find all of them and it is something all around us (visual) = close to us everyday no matter the country to think about it.
Vegetables? ... idk ... what Finish people would think about it :D ? you know .. I really think architecture is something visual, majestic, historic and unifying that will be hard to replace and I really dont want it. New gates? ok, but let it be history + architecture. Thx :) .. the symbolism is awesome, just briliant (history + commonality + visually on spot in everyday life + chronological from smallest to biggest value) + you didnt mention 500 eur note, it is not used by regular people but still it exists and should be shown in video. If they decide on veggies, I bet they will find some purple one too :D
red onion is quite purple
I'm pretty sure you can't observe Classical style architecture in the Czech Republic or anywhere else in Central-Eastern Europe.
@@kamilszadkowski8864 yeah the sentence is confusing... I meant "we all can see it (the styles) in our (European)towns, yes some lack the classic period, but the main point is, the evolution of the styles (even one missing) is everywhere and as Europe yes you find all. But i think all of us feel attachment to it on our personál level. It is not something foreign or that does not mean anything in the nation. I mean the buildings (gates/bridges) always have some national significance and it is something that we all share. Yes classical style not everywhere
I'm for the "sandwiches of Europe" theme.
Im Swiss and I love our redesigned banknotes, so I'll probably love the new euros as well.
I know this might cause some tension but it would be cool if they featured historical landmarks. Yes, there are fears that as there are only 6 notes but 19 countries, only a small number would be represented but... still i think it would be cool.
Norway design looks sick AF though.
They should make country based designs similar to how coins from different countries have a unique design on the back
They can't for safety reasons.
Huh, TIL the second series didn't include a €500 note. How did I not know this, that's been a thing for 8 years...
We didn't forget! As of 2014, the ECB stopped printing new €500 bills and in 2019 the EU stopped issuing the notes at all. They also weren't included in the mid-2010s refresh we mentioned in the video, so we thought they weren't really worth including (as presumably they also won't be included in the new collection of votes) - Jack
The reason the 500€ notes were discontinued was money laundering and smuggling. Such high denominations had become too popular with shady people smuggling money in briefcases (or envelopes etc.) where stacks of 500€ notes had obvious benefits over stacks of only $100 U.S. notes due to limited space. The problem still persists to some degree with the 200€ notes so these might be discontinued as well, eventually.
Of course the president of the Bank of Europe says that the only thing that unites Europe is money.
I hope they introduce a €1 banknote. Maybe plants and fauna as the new theme? Really glad that cash is still being supported - fed up of this attitude that cashless is inevitable when cash is so useful!
I had never seen a euro before but I'm Canadian and also had yet to see the vertical note design you showed either.
This is not a big story right now... but it will be big when the actual designs are announced... at least for a banknote collector like me!
i can bet my last ball one of note will have LGBTQ flag on it, it is a fully political move
The democratic participation is interesting for this new "design", led by the EU.
Pitty that's only for disapearing bank notes, and not for main subjects...
Personally i d like it if every member state could have their own design like they do with coins. Like in Britain: there is legally only pound sterling but there is english design and scottish design. Id like to see that for all 20 members of yhe eurozone.
When I was stationed in Germany, I like the Euros. Our money in the US is kinda boring.
Still missing Dutch design for banknotes, the sunflower, the lighthouse, the snip. Bright colors.
1: make a one Euro bank note!!
2: Some significant personalities for European history should be included i.e: Shuman, Jean Monnet etc.
cash cannot get obsolete, it is an anonym and safe way for paymrnt
I keep hoping they'll finally put people on the notes. There are lots of people in European history who have been significant to the history of the entire Union, the continent or the entire world. You can start with Robert Schuman, under the heading of "blindingly obvious".
It would be cool to have important people from across Europe printed in the Euros!
I love banknotes, and would like the new Euro to highlight modern European lifestyle, like high education, infrastructure, healthcare, saving environment and equality.
Sounds very superficial and tasteless to me. Although I probably shouldn't criticize since my country isn't even going to adopt Euro
@@kamilszadkowski8864 Well, if you could decide on the redesign, what would be the motive?
@@tonyjohansson7567 Maybe European animals? Fits the current pro-environmental agenda, is not controversial, represents the common natural heritage of all Europeans, and so on. You know, a stag, lynx, European bison. They all look quite majestic as well.
@@kamilszadkowski8864 Sounds very nice!
I think the old design is good. But there is no reason not to change it. A new design can also be very good.
So... bridges and windows are not relatable to people of all ages, because...
Now, what could possibly be a broad, unbiased theme for all europeans to share on the bills? I mean, there's already the liberty of each country designing the back of the coins at their will - which personaly I find great. Does this mean that bills could also have a national side, and an european side?
And still, what would that national side be? Or the whole bill? Monuments are particular, historical figures are particular. Heroes in one country can be villains in others. One era can have multiple key players (how many XV/XVI navigators could we have, for instance, giving that Portugal and Spain have loads of them).
Seems to me like a complicated and unnecessary idea...
"But there's more to note"
I see what you did there
I live in sweden. I almost never see these designs.
Two words really come to mind: woke and garbage. On a ridiculously optimistic note though (pun intended), I'd really like to see some plants and animals. Scientists and artists might also be welcome, as long as they're proper ones.
Doctors and scientists yes, artists mehh ok.
Or simply have one side be universal and the other side being country specific.
@@tsioulak I mean artists like Leonardo, who was both really.
Last time, apparently they used fictional bridges, to symbolize unity, but not grant favoritism to any specific region. Whatever they go with, it's probably supposed to be neutral, as not to imply that any member state is more deserving than the rest.
Of all ages and backgrounds? Interesting way to say they will feature aleppo, mogadishu, dakar and tiananmen on the european notes.
yes, that last one should please China
@@johnjanssens8998 why not, they both are socialist and hate opposition so it fits well
Cool, new designs I'll never see because I never use cash.
I do not know about everyone else, but I love the current design.
I hope Bulgaria's vote will be counted towards the new Banknotes since we're scheduled to use the euro by 2024.
Sounds exciting, but yeah I personally don’t use cash anyway so I don’t reallyyy care too much what the notes look like as long as it’s vaguely European-esque
Potential bad news for Spijkenisse. The bridges on the banknotes didn't exist to avoid disputes among the various countries. Then Spijkenisse, a Dutch town, decided to build them all. But if there is a redesign to the banknotes, there might be different bridges on it, or no bridges at all.
1999 is more than 2 decades ago
What more relatable than the styles architecture most Europeans see wherever they live?
Lifeless buildings are not relatable.
@@_blank-_ they’re not lifeless at all.
@@2.5chainz Do you know what life means? They are non-existing generic buildings, represented in the most boring way, with no reference to the cultural and historical background (Ancient Roman/Greek religions, Christianity, industrial revolution) that made these architectural styles possible. There are no human figures. No animals or plants. These banknotes are lifeless. Period.
@@_blank-_ You sound awfully triggered for someone calling other people "triggered", huh nerd?
They should make them polymer, slightly different sizes and include braille