If you don’t know these types of productions are called REMI (remote integration). Fairly common for sports now. Especially for college and Lower tier productions as you can save money sometimes by producing all or some elements of a broadcast out of a central Ctrl room. Only downside is the delay between production staff and the camera ops. ESPN used complete REMI models for their college FB Bowl games, and often uses REMI for lots of other stuff. This one was out of charlotte NC most likely by FOX’s home run productions division. This game was aired on FS1 in the US. They were using LiveU as their primary likely and this as their backup or return. Surprised that they used SAT as a backup for this one but I haven’t worked FOX productions often. LiveU is likely cheaper or cheapest here and that’s why it’s in use. Usually venues like this have dedicated fiber circuits for video with ATT, Verizon, lumen, etc. that they can buy time on for transmission. (Codec on those is typically JPEGXS) this typically costs 500 or more per hour for a single path. Other transport systems used often but are public internet based (at least for the first “hop” to the transport company POP) are LTN and The Switch/Tata communications. These are cheaper, prob 300 per hour. This venue might not have any of the above, so likely why SAT was brought in to back up LiveU. Sat is always the most pricey. And you need to rent the truck too. What’s happening starting around 26 min in is the crew getting b-roll, bumper, and roll out shots for the show and banking it in the EVS (replay system) for use later in the production. getting ready to film the open of the show You might know all this but I work in the industry and wanted to share my thoughts.
During the COVID years I worked for a company engineering remote broadcast workflows. We used 12 Dejero Engo's and 2 Ku Flyaway satellite terminals. Worked in cooperation with Dome Productions & TV2GO up here in Canada on many Film and Commercial productions. I always felt the remote workflows we developed could save time and money once COVID passed however I never really saw it take shape. Glad to see someone is smart enough to be taking advantage of the cost savings.
@@TheVanuPhantom production is all done from Biggin Hill and comes back primarily over fibre, massive change which was accelerated by COVID but which was happening anyway. Still a significant operation at OB but nothing like it used to be. There's a few videos showing behind the scenes and tours that FOM and a couple of other F1 UA-camrs have made :)
The screen with the artic icebergs is a MacOSX screensaver, with the clock in the upper center of the screen. My Macbook Pro laptop has the default screensaver, which basically looks like you're walking through and looking around the Redwood Forest in California. But that is so wild that they uplinked their entire MCR board, whoever it is. The graphic scoreboard in the lower third at 5:19 is definitely Fox Sports. Fox Sports 1 and Fox Sports 2 as well as Fox broadcast use that same graphics package for their basketball. games. Fox Sports itself is based out of California and they were likely uplinking to NYC to their network operations center is located. Thanks for the upload! I sure miss watching backhaul raw satellite wild feeds off the satellites back in the day!
I've heard the wildest stuff from sports announcers during commercial breaks with a simple radio scanner when they think nobody is listening. (450 mhz)
I spent 35 years in sports production, 10 as the A1 (lead audio). Individual screens got replaced by a video wall. When it came to mapping the wall for any given director, I seem to get the task. Directors have preferences. Replay X is kinda primary, then it can be anything A, B, Y, Red, Blue, Silver. Each basket gets a mic, plus floor mics to get ball bounce. Hand held cam mics used a lot.
Yeah. The Al McGuire Center is the home venue of Marquette University’s women’s team. 20 years or so ago when the stadium was built, it was built before fiber was common. Marquette’s student station had a drop between the Al and the communications building across the street. That was after my time there, so I’m not 100% sure how they did the production. Like, not sure if the venue is/was wired for camera positions. I’ve literally been to it once lol. I know the student station did not have a remote truck. However, for TV games, they always used a satellite truck for the beam back for the pro broadcasts. This may explain why they are using a LiveU system as primary back to the base. LiveU has come a long, long way from what it once was. I used one in 2021 & 2022 to beam back cameras for a trial I was directing. Multi-channel LiveU box. Cameras plugged into that. It “beamed” back to the station and I used a secondary control room to punch for our digital channel that was carrying the trials. Also technically what you are seeing is a multi-viewer, not necessarily their Master Control.
Man it's a real production =) I mean real professional guys and know their stuff. Does the camera have like face tracking and it crops to face and stabilizes , very interesting to look a production from this side
Seeing this is taking me back to when I had a small KU band dish with a motor. Picked all kinds of random feeds that would pop up. I could turn the sat almost horizontal and even pick up cubavision. Are the sats still named Galaxy followed by a number like back then. Getting the sat aligned for the motor was really tricky. You got a big dish which must really help with the weaker sats.
Why would someone feed a (unencrypted) master control feed to _satellite_ in the first place? There's the Internet now which can do it way faster and more efficiently, plus there would be less need for cable management.
With mission critical broadcasts they use dedicated fiber which is not always available everywhere. Satellite can often be used also as a backup pathway. All major sporting events, like the NFL games, use dual pathway fiber/satellite for failure redundancy.
Hacking about is using the tools for any purpose not done by most "normal" users but not necessarily having to defeat security or encryption - mostly experimentation and discovery of cool stuff, using a system's features in ways not anticipated. What most people mean when they say "hacking" is actually "cracking" in the original hacker lexicon.
@ChristopherWoods pointing a satellite dish in a direction and picking up a feed/signal is different from how satellite dishes are normally used? Where in this video does the guy do any kind of hacking?
@@KirkHermary most people don't even have steerable dishes :) or would know how to manually scan the band for hidden or non-advertised services. I doubt many people would even know about the existence of the bird at the coordinates... It might have also required some extra STB config? Agree it's not the most advanced of hacking, but to me is still qualifies as hacking nonetheless :) it requires some skill and more advanced knowledge beyond basic "power button > EPG > watch cartoons"
@AureliusR when I turn on a radio and tune into a frequency is that hacking? When my satellite dish picks up a signal is that hacking? When I pass by a store/shop with WiFi and connect to it is that hacking?
If you don’t know these types of productions are called REMI (remote integration). Fairly common for sports now. Especially for college and Lower tier productions as you can save money sometimes by producing all or some elements of a broadcast out of a central Ctrl room. Only downside is the delay between production staff and the camera ops.
ESPN used complete REMI models for their college FB Bowl games, and often uses REMI for lots of other stuff.
This one was out of charlotte NC most likely by FOX’s home run productions division.
This game was aired on FS1 in the US. They were using LiveU as their primary likely and this as their backup or return.
Surprised that they used SAT as a backup for this one but I haven’t worked FOX productions often.
LiveU is likely cheaper or cheapest here and that’s why it’s in use.
Usually venues like this have dedicated fiber circuits for video with ATT, Verizon, lumen, etc. that they can buy time on for transmission. (Codec on those is typically JPEGXS) this typically costs 500 or more per hour for a single path.
Other transport systems used often but are public internet based (at least for the first “hop” to the transport company POP) are LTN and The Switch/Tata communications. These are cheaper, prob 300 per hour.
This venue might not have any of the above, so likely why SAT was brought in to back up LiveU.
Sat is always the most pricey. And you need to rent the truck too.
What’s happening starting around 26 min in is the crew getting b-roll, bumper, and roll out shots for the show and banking it in the EVS (replay system) for use later in the production. getting ready to film the open of the show
You might know all this but I work in the industry and wanted to share my thoughts.
During the COVID years I worked for a company engineering remote broadcast workflows. We used 12 Dejero Engo's and 2 Ku Flyaway satellite terminals. Worked in cooperation with Dome Productions & TV2GO up here in Canada on many Film and Commercial productions. I always felt the remote workflows we developed could save time and money once COVID passed however I never really saw it take shape. Glad to see someone is smart enough to be taking advantage of the cost savings.
How long would the delay be and what makes it a disadvantage?
I think FIA now also uses REMI for most F1 races, having a central control room in Southampton afaik
@@TheVanuPhantom production is all done from Biggin Hill and comes back primarily over fibre, massive change which was accelerated by COVID but which was happening anyway. Still a significant operation at OB but nothing like it used to be. There's a few videos showing behind the scenes and tours that FOM and a couple of other F1 UA-camrs have made :)
The screen with the artic icebergs is a MacOSX screensaver, with the clock in the upper center of the screen. My Macbook Pro laptop has the default screensaver, which basically looks like you're walking through and looking around the Redwood Forest in California. But that is so wild that they uplinked their entire MCR board, whoever it is. The graphic scoreboard in the lower third at 5:19 is definitely Fox Sports. Fox Sports 1 and Fox Sports 2 as well as Fox broadcast use that same graphics package for their basketball. games. Fox Sports itself is based out of California and they were likely uplinking to NYC to their network operations center is located.
Thanks for the upload! I sure miss watching backhaul raw satellite wild feeds off the satellites back in the day!
8:50 a good reminder for us TV folk... WATCH WHAT YOU SAY ON HEADSETS! and ALWAYS treat a mic like it's hot!
I've heard the wildest stuff from sports announcers during commercial breaks with a simple radio scanner when they think nobody is listening. (450 mhz)
Yeah, a normal Peter Fairlie video awesome!, really liking your feedhunting!
Glad you enjoy it!
I mean satellite hacking the supreme leaders tv is normal too!
@ichiro.g neh, that is not how a lot of people got to this youtube channel. We are technical people. We liked the technical aspects of the channel.
I took a class on Television Production, and our class had an MCR system similar to this one. It was so cool to see.
Is it Blackmagic Design ATEM, Grass Valley, Ross Video or NewTek TriCaster?
I spent 35 years in sports production, 10 as the A1 (lead audio). Individual screens got replaced by a video wall. When it came to mapping the wall for any given director, I seem to get the task. Directors have preferences. Replay X is kinda primary, then it can be anything A, B, Y, Red, Blue, Silver. Each basket gets a mic, plus floor mics to get ball bounce. Hand held cam mics used a lot.
Marquette is a private university in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I'm not familiar with the women's team, but their men's team is usually pretty good.
Ooh! I enjoy this content man! Nice job Peter! You are awesome! Thanks for commenting on my LinkedIn too haha.
Thanks again Lee!
I used to have C-band dishes and I loved them
I saw so many cool things
The North Korean stuff is fun. But I love random satalite feed stuff just as much.
Wish for you to hook a capture card to your transmitter so you can do raw recording of the footage for the wayback machine.
Yeah. The Al McGuire Center is the home venue of Marquette University’s women’s team.
20 years or so ago when the stadium was built, it was built before fiber was common. Marquette’s student station had a drop between the Al and the communications building across the street. That was after my time there, so I’m not 100% sure how they did the production. Like, not sure if the venue is/was wired for camera positions. I’ve literally been to it once lol. I know the student station did not have a remote truck.
However, for TV games, they always used a satellite truck for the beam back for the pro broadcasts. This may explain why they are using a LiveU system as primary back to the base. LiveU has come a long, long way from what it once was. I used one in 2021 & 2022 to beam back cameras for a trial I was directing. Multi-channel LiveU box. Cameras plugged into that. It “beamed” back to the station and I used a secondary control room to punch for our digital channel that was carrying the trials.
Also technically what you are seeing is a multi-viewer, not necessarily their Master Control.
Damn that was cool! There's a lot of tech and work going on here to make it happen.
Basketball game live through 10+ cameras ❤🏀
Back to the Future II, realized.
So this is how looks master's house... sumnida.
Nice.
Man it's a real production =) I mean real professional guys and know their stuff. Does the camera have like face tracking and it crops to face and stabilizes , very interesting to look a production from this side
Hello Peter
I interested this style videos rf, sat and tv streams.. What's your lnb type? Universal or other?
I'm using a Titanium Satellite C238 Performance Plus C-Band LNB with RED 5G filter for reception within the 3800 - 4200MHz satellite downlink band.
Seeing this is taking me back to when I had a small KU band dish with a motor. Picked all kinds of random feeds that would pop up. I could turn the sat almost horizontal and even pick up cubavision. Are the sats still named Galaxy followed by a number like back then. Getting the sat aligned for the motor was really tricky. You got a big dish which must really help with the weaker sats.
Why would someone feed a (unencrypted) master control feed to _satellite_ in the first place? There's the Internet now which can do it way faster and more efficiently, plus there would be less need for cable management.
With mission critical broadcasts they use dedicated fiber which is not always available everywhere. Satellite can often be used also as a backup pathway. All major sporting events, like the NFL games, use dual pathway fiber/satellite for failure redundancy.
Where's Kim?
Kim is gone, *we* are Marquette.
As we know Kim is a Basketball fanatic. He's at the game!
He's balling out
Charlotte NC Halifax NS ?
Which bird was it on?
Galaxy 31 at 121.0°W
This is so cool. I really want to get into satellite stuff but i dont have room for a dish. Any recommendations for a small rented space?
Was there hacking in this video? I must have missed it... how did you hack the feed?
Hacking about is using the tools for any purpose not done by most "normal" users but not necessarily having to defeat security or encryption - mostly experimentation and discovery of cool stuff, using a system's features in ways not anticipated. What most people mean when they say "hacking" is actually "cracking" in the original hacker lexicon.
@ChristopherWoods pointing a satellite dish in a direction and picking up a feed/signal is different from how satellite dishes are normally used? Where in this video does the guy do any kind of hacking?
@@KirkHermary most people don't even have steerable dishes :) or would know how to manually scan the band for hidden or non-advertised services. I doubt many people would even know about the existence of the bird at the coordinates... It might have also required some extra STB config?
Agree it's not the most advanced of hacking, but to me is still qualifies as hacking nonetheless :) it requires some skill and more advanced knowledge beyond basic "power button > EPG > watch cartoons"
@@KirkHermary You don't understand what the word "hacker" means, then. You're thinking of cybercrime, which is NOT what hacking is.
@AureliusR when I turn on a radio and tune into a frequency is that hacking? When my satellite dish picks up a signal is that hacking? When I pass by a store/shop with WiFi and connect to it is that hacking?
nice Equipment
Is that your voice reveal?
He spoke before
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lookey what we have here
Baskettesball
we want more kim jong un show please
Lots more Kim coming this weekend !