I am old, being around other old people can be challenging. The conversations usually migrate to all the health problems. I'd rather be alone and just involved in my hobbies.
I'm only late forties, but yeah I hear ya. Rather be with my guitars, model airplanes, bicycle, and most of all, my dogs! In my area, they all talk about politics, or health problems. My mother is 74, but still talks about future plans. That's how you go on living.
I was talking with a 92 year old man in Florida, and I asked him if he ever goes to the pool. He said, "Nah, just a bunch of old people there." Full of happiness.
Those" old people" in my community are much more active than people in regular neighborhoods I've lived in. They never stop with all kinds of activities. I don't join in much as I'm a bit of an introvert. I'm lucky to have a good HOA. Pool is there if I feel like it, but usually don't.
Disagree with the point of view that people who like to hang by themselves are negative. I like to hang by myself and feel great until those people who like to hang in groups and become offended or resentment if I don't join in. I like relaxing - I like enjoying nature. I would prefer to meet that 1 or 2 people who I trust, who I income their company and conversation. I don't enjoy everyone's conversation and after working for years: I looked forward to picking who I hung out with and who I wanted nothing to do with.
Yes, this is because extroverts derive their energy from other people, and introverts derive their energy from themselves. A common misconception is that introverts don’t like people ( are negative) not true of course, but are misunderstood generally. It could be a highly “social “ environment like a Sun City, is just not the best “match”, for a introvert. Interesting topic.
I think there are still lots of great things for introverts to do in a 55 Plus community. There are art classes, libraries, fitness gyms and more. I want to take some art classes for me and don’t want to interact with anyone but the instructor. When I go to the gym I don’t talk to anyone. The key with these communities is to make it what works for you as an individual. Don’t rely on someone’s idea of what it is for them or what it should be for you. Do what makes you happy!!
@@Southwest55Plus I totally agree with the comment Extroverts get their energy from other people and I think they like noise. There was a man who gave classes so people could understand one another. He lined people up on one side who like to talk and those don't need a lot of conversation. The talkers thought they were doing everyone a favor and creating noise- and the introverts told them they would prefer quiet, they were happy with quiet. Extroverts were surprised. I am living now in a community of many retirees and I have been abused by what I call the extroverts. They are women who like to run programs and they EXPECT and have told me I am obligated to socialize. That's because they need people to attend their project meetings to feel successful. They go out in the middle of the night and taunt me to punish me or not socialism. I was told I better learn to socialize. I am very reluctant to get involved with a 55 and over community again, your suggestions were great - but the extroverts can be mean and self centered and want to punish others for not joining in. There is also a 1 time fe where I live, 5,000 that is paid when people buy homes, maybe those running projects are getting paid from the 1 times fees - a real estate agent told me -TOLD ME to sell my home so they can get the 1 time fee. There are a few young people, and some of the old people have taught them socializing is expected and the children taunt people, they learned that behavior is acceptable from the cranky bossy control freaks. My experience has been bad - if I don't like someone, I walk the other way, if someone doesn't like me, I walk the other way. The bossy socializer - don't - they need people.
I lived in a 55plus apartment building outside of Seattle for a couple of years. The manager treated residents like children. There were the “mean girls” who tried to run the shows. I decided to buy a house but I couldn’t afford one in the whole state. This was 5 years ago before the price of homes everywhere became unaffordable. I returned to East Tn where I grew up and purchased a small house, 570 sq ft, for $99,000. Best decision I have made. My house value is now $150,000. 😂😂😂
I agree with your post. I spent just some time going to a Senior center in my city . OH! My 🤦♀️😳🙄 the conversations were so unpleasant. I to will be planning to buy a house, the experience of just visiting a Senior center was enough for me to say NO WAY to a Senior community or Senior apartment living. I to live in Tennessee.
So, is it better to live in a crine ridden sh..thole like crime ridden Chicago, Seattle, or the CHOP zone of Seattle? How about living in crone ridden New Orleans or Baltimore, for that matter?
Me too! We moved from a middle class California neighborhood where homeless started setting up mattresses on the sidewalk to sleep. I now live in paradise! We walk all over the neighborhood, feed the ducks and ride bikes.
@@Southwest55Plus Same here, cheap living and all utilities paid except internet. Stay more to myself and am not big on becoming part of groups or activities. All I need.
Same here. My upper apartment faces the sunrise. I see trees; behind the trees are birds, a subdivision with young families, and QUIET. At night, I hear coyotes and owls! Most of the residents here are lonely elderly widows, and some very flirtatious old gents!😆As a youngster(I'm 62)the manager hired me to do cleaning, and put me in charge of turnover -- sanitizing vacant apartments to prepare them for a new tenant. As a young widow myself, it's SO NICE to support myself doing work that I enjoy! And the lower, heated parking garage is pure heaven. I feel safe, cozy, and very, very comfortable in this building with my sweet 'oldsters' for neighbors💗
I live in one it's duplexes. Quiet,safe,affordable. I'm 61. No bullying,etc. HOA is fine. Everyone does their own thing& minds their own business including me. Depends on where your'e at. Thankfully my area is is fine.😊
I am 70, l live alone in a small studio apartment in a rural town, and feel so content. I enjoy my own company and am perfectly happy reading, taking walks with my cameras, and exploring UA-cam. Life is wonderful without people.☕🌿👍
OK, so I'm 70+. I really like watching kids going to school, running around the neighborhood yelling and screaming. That's life folks. I know, middle schoolers can be a pain-in-the-butt, I was one of those. But on the whole, the broader the community, in age, in background, in ethnicity...the better I like it.
AMEN FRIEND AMEN I WANT TO SEE LIFE WE WERE THERE ONCE YOU SAID IT. 56 AND 60 I LOVE PLAYING CATCH WITH THEM . MY OLDEST MARRIED DON'T WANT CHILDREN YES IT KILLS ME. MY MIDDLE IN ANOTHER STATE THEY ARE WAITING FOR EVER. AND OH MY THE YOUNGEST IS TOO YOUNG. THESE KIDS ARE BEAUTIFUL. IT'S LIFE IT'S BEAUTIFUL FIND SOMETHING YOU LIKE AND JOIN IT. ASK FOR A RIDE.
I agree! One of my jobs is part time/on call flower delivery. Many people in the 55+ communities receive flowers. There is always a "narrow" and "sterile" feeling in those places. Like Edward Meade, I prefer neighborhoods that include the boisterous children, the up-and-coming young adults, etc.
I am in my 70s. No way in hell would I ever live in an over-55 community or apartment complex. Think junior high school, complete with mean girls, cliques and drama.
Watch out for angry old women. Nothing to do but push written regulations to the max. Plants, colors, lawn decor and more. NO THANKS HOA IS THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD. US Military Vet and Patriot
I went from running a college age community to a 55 plus community in the 70s. Old evil people are better at being evil than young evil people. They've had more practice at it. I'm retired now living out in the sticks with few people around and loving it, working on the house, built a workshop, now finishing up my houseboat that I've been working on a few years.
It was quiet here in March 2021. COVID. I was the only one in my hall. Plenty of parking. The building is beautiful, but I didn’t see the forest (crime, gang activity, etc.) through the trees. After 2 years the free parking, EV charging stations and peace and quiet are gone. I need to get away from mean, old people. Considering a road trip to commune with nature and heal my soul before settling down again. Thank you for validating my observations and experiences.
There is a book called: A Generation of Sociopaths - How the Baby Boomers Betrayed America. If you want to find true happiness, avoid boomers at all costs. The 55 and up communities are full of them - sociopaths run wild. They are selfish in the extreme.
Dang! You are absolutely correct! Old evil ones are the worst! But I'm social to a point. A friendly wave is all you'll get! And no one darkens my doorsteps! All of my fun would be had outside of that community!
I'm 65 and visited a 55 plus apartment complex. New building, nice apartments, quiet. It reminded me of the nursing homes I worked in,no youth, no vitality. Such is life, there is a trade-off for every decision we make. I am undecided. Thank you for the content of this video.
I’m 23. I promise you most young people are very chill and won’t bother you. I don’t understand why anyone would want to live in segregated communities, I like speaking to people of all generations.
@@angelgjr1999 I agree with you, I would miss hearing children and the young adults. I'm in a house where we have a wonderful mix of all ages in the neighborhood.
@@Southwest55Plus im considering moving my dad to sun city, he's older and i would be living with him, i'm under 55 and more likely will be when he passes.....do they kick me out or do they grandfather me in? How does that work?
I live in my own home at 90 years of age. My neighborhood is like a 55 plus community with some younger tenants. We have a community park and swimming pool. It's crime free and next to a medical center complex with an adjacent upscale super market. What not to like?
Friends of mine, during the height of the pandemic, lived in one of these communities. Their grandson (13) came to stay isolated with them because his parents were doctors who worked high-risk. His school was on-line, he was quiet and never left the house or back yard. But nosy neighbors reported them anyway. So, they decided to sell and picked the rudest buyer that offered the right price. Friends from the community reported regularly about how miserable their former neighbors were. 😀
I think people have gotten meaner since Covid. I saw a video where a neighbor reported children for being outside playing. (Unrelated to this video topic and just to your comment). Thankfully, we live in a regular semi-country neighborhood, and the neighbors who normally hung out together never stopped during Covid. Our kids still played and we just counted ourselves as family as we were used to being together all the time anyway. I would never want to live somewhere people act that way!
Thing is though, why are there rules? Who decides who can break this or that rule, but the next situation is different? I'm not for snitches, but the situation you describe is ripe for replication that never ends.
I'm 72, I 've been living in an 55+ for the last 14 yrs. No problems to speak of. I mind my business and they mind theirs. I get along well with the other residents.🇺🇸😎
Im in AZ. I moved this week into a 55 plus because I couldn't get a Section 8 place. I'm 59 and not interested in activities. I have my own stuff to keep me busy and I'm a homebody and loner, I wouldn't anwer my door if someone comes by. I'm plenty busy as I want to be.
I was in my 20s in the 1980s. Now I'm almost 59. I can't believe I'm more than old enough to qualify for 55-plus communities and over-55 menus at Denny's and IHOP.
I sold my condo and moved into a 55# apartment complex 6 years ago and absolutely love it!! Wonderful neighbors who are there for one another when someone needs something. We even swap around household items we no longer want. Community dinners and parties. Incredible onsite management and concierge service. A shuttle bus that hauls us around free. Gorgeous swimming pool, nice fitness center and Community room. Packages delivered right to our apartment doors. I am on 4th floor west and have a view every night og God's glorious handwork in the sunsets. So peaceful. I hope I never have to live anywhere else!!
This sounds just like my community. Mine is a 62+ complex in upstate NY. The apartments are well-maintained. My garbage disposal was just replaced, no questions asked. I was allowed to bring my German Shepherd, and she is loved by the other residents! But most important for me is the absolute peace and quiet.
Please give the name of your complex if it is in the greater Seattle area. I am looking for such a place! Get a referral bonus AND I'll buy you dinner!
I'm sixty-eight and have a few friends that live in a 55 plus retirement community. Two of them left and bought their new home outside of a retirement community. I'm from California and when I arrived there in Florida to the Villages to visit a friend there for the first time, I was amazed on how huge this place was! It is like they have a state of their own! They have everything you could need (shopping etc) When I got to my friends house and stepped out of the car, I couldn't believe all the curtains on other houses moving to peek at me. I just waved back. It was awful!!! I felt like a alien landing from a spaceship. I was even invited to a monthly social at a neighbors. I went and there were quite a few people, looking at me as I entered the door as if I were fresh tender vittles. Turned out to be the beginning of a swingers party, I walked out. When I got back to California to my home, I was so glad to be back there. Great video!
You are a big liar!!!! I live here and no such thing as old swingers! You are an idiot typing that crap! You likely did not come here as nobody is home much and we certainly do not stand by our windows looking at hundreds of cars or walkers going by! We have a lot to do outside our homes and you have zero clue!!! Get a life!
I would NEVER EVER live anywhere that has an HOA. All you need is for one board member to not like you & forget about it. They will make your life miserable. Don't do it!
You are so right! We have been in one for 8 years-EVERY day when the mail arrives we have to worry (a lot) that some jackass complained about some trivial thing and we get a nasty letter from the HOA threatening a $50 fine (for starters) for some incredibly petty thing.
I worked in a 55+ community. The saddest part was when an old person died or when it was evident that they could no longer safely drive or take care of themselves.
@@SoCal9705 exactly. One resident mistook the gas for the brake and drive thru someone else's house. Another ran over a dog that was being walked on a leash and another parked her car in the middle of a highway and got out and walked thinking she was already home. But for the grace of God... 😢
I’m 60 and know my personality. There is just no way I’m going to have another person tell me what to do in my yard or with my house. And to pay extra for that pleasure. I think not. I can’t live in dense housing. It was fun living in an apartment around and with friends when I was young.
It's not for everyone. The communities I specialize in are generally single family homes. Not that dense. Not sure I'd like an apartment either at my age. Thanks for watching!
I live in a 55 plus community where neighbors do watch out for each other, but in a good way. Many of us have health issues and like knowing someone will notice if all of a sudden we are not around. One neighbor who always walked everyday was found unconscious from a fall, because their neighbor asked the land lady to please check on the person.
I lived in a 55 plus condo community taking care of my elderly mom and it was hell. Those old people were constantly harassing me in every way. I couldn't walk to my car without some really insane neighbors cornering me every day. It was depressing and aggravating.
Wow that is awful. I’ve heard lots of negative feedback about 55+ condo buildings but rarely complaints about single family communities. So sorry you had such a bad experience!
@@Southwest55Plus the old neighbors lie in wait outside for me to come out. I couldn't throw out my trash to please them, simply putting it in a dumpster. My car wasn't in straight enough. I said something they didn't like. I had to walk past a group of them to get to my front door. They stood outside night and day to harass me. One went around giving certain people hell about their home insurance. On and on.
They are basically places for people who are yentas. Many also consider them Gods waiting room. No matter how good they look they are boring and depressing. I will never live in one. Especially one with a totalitarian regime under HOA. No thanks.
My grandparents lived in Sun City, AZ in the 80’s. I remember visiting them & going to the beautiful pool! My parents lived in Florida & bought in a 55+ community & I inherited their property. At the age of 53, I was able to live part time in the 55+community. After a few years, I still own it & like certain aspects. My neighbors are very nice, even though I do have a Mrs. Kravitz. I think the biggest appeal of 55+ is the maintenance free living…although there is still maintenance that has to be done like power washing, window cleaning etc…but the grass is mowed! There will be always be pros & cons of anywhere you live. For me 55+ living is working well!
This may be unkind, but perhaps Mrs. Kravitz may exceed you in age, not be of the optimal health, may need to move eventually for some reason and you can just outlast her. Gray rock her in the meantime and because you're boring to her, she might move on to focusing on something else. Fingers crossed. 🤞
Odd that being 55 or older and can walk behind a power mower, or sit on a riding one, you are instead relegated to washing windows and power washing. I don’t think older people are suitable for that kind of physical work. Basically what you’re saying is the lawn is cared for but you have to pay someone extra to do the things that actually make 55 and older maintenance free. That’s like paying a contractor who provides the brush but you have to paint the house yourself.
I moved to a small new 55+ community in FL looking for some peace and quiet and after 2 years of nonsense with the neighbors and HOA rules I decided to move out. Best decision ever. Now I live in a regular residential area with a wonderful community center managed by the county that provides tons of activities for all ages.
This REALLY helped me make my decision as I was in the process of selling my home to purchase in a senior community! As I did the numbers, I just couldn't justify me paying $2,760.00 per year in HOA fees (I'm 55 years old). 10 years of HOA fees at 230.00 per month would be $27,600, 20 years $55,200 and 30 years $82,800 and that's if the HOA fees don't increase but we all know they will. PLEASE do the numbers before making any decisions. I'm going to stay where I am! Thank you SO much for your informative video!
55 is way too young anymore anyway. We only considered it for my inlaws because the communities here are "golf cart friendly". Meaning they could go out to eat, shopping etc close to home without actually driving which was becoming an issue with them. But the fees are high and basically provide nothing. Its essentially their way of keeping out "undesirables" which twlls you all you need to know about who your neighbors would be 🤮
I live in southern CA and practically all places have HOAs.. yes they go up, but they aren’t just in over 55 areas. The over 55 area has a lower HOA, but includes everything I have plus: tv cable, internet, a huge rec area, a pool heated to 84 degrees every day of the year, a lapidary, 2 woodworking rooms, jewelry making room, sewing room, ballroom, gym with many exercise machines, classes in everything from line dancing to water aerobics, and security.
I live in a 55+ apartment complex. Yes, sometimes it seems like a nursing home, but this 65 year old still operates on a 40 year old mindset. I work, hang out, do my own thing. Not ready for afternoon bingo yet. I keep busy with family and friends. When I shut my door, I'm in my own world.
barbaralynch3015: and when you shut your door that's how it SHOULD be. I am the same way... someone once said to me:"it's not WHERE you live.. it's HOW you live. I just want a roof over my head that's affordable and my own space.
Thanks for this in-depth video. It has validated everything for me. I almost moved into one of these places and my prayers were answered and I was saved the headaches by God. I am a creative, low, key private person and without needing groups and activities I am so busy doing the things I love. I also work and would continue to do so for as long as I can and I work from home. But you, the videomaker assumed that peace-loving, introverts are unhappy. I have to disagree. Psychologically speaking, people who have no life, are bored to death because they have no creative sides to express themselves or are not willing learn things for free online, for example, they tend to put their noses into others' business. Running around in parties does not make one happy. Happiness is an inside job. People who are unhappy, tend to get involved in everything they can because they believe that things outside of them can bring joy and happiness. It does not. Attaining inner bliss is the path to true happiness. I love, private, low-key and thoughtful neighbors and if I can strike friendship with one of them, that's all I may need. Just my two cents. I thank you again for an honest outlook on 55+ communities.
I'm an introvert and I am retired and I do not belong to any clubs, etc., and I am never bored! I have way too much to do! The last thing I need is something to do! Totally agree with your comment!
I lived in a condo building that predominantly had “elderly” and long term residents there who lived in the building well over 20 years (some of them for 30 years). It was a blessing to someone like me who is an introvert, newly divorced and new to the area. I was in my late 40’s when I moved in and the “old” people took me in and watched over me. My cat got out into the hallway one day and a kindly neighbor helped get him back to my place. Everyone was asleep by 8PM so the building was always quiet (no parties or loud music). The others watched over my place when I was away travelling. No theft of unsecured items in the storage area, garage or patio/deck - “old” people were raised with morals, values and ethics! You could leave anything on your deck and your window open without worry.
Ditto. I've never met so many mean and nasty, unfriendly people in my life -- Condo. My next door "neighbor" got herself on the board, broke the Condo regulations (with the other 2 board members approval,) and built a deck on the common property in our backyards 5" away from my back window. When I got angry about it and wrote a bunch of emails (and called her a few choice words, I'll admit,) she filed a restraining order on me. She made up everything she could think of to get it, including claiming that I'm mentally ill. That's rich coming from her, because she's a nutjob.
My mother lives in senior living. I go in several times a week to help her since she is 97. I am 73 and would never consider living in any place like that. There are too many old people in places like that.
I think that’s probably something different than the average active adult neighborhood though. I’m glad you are able to go see your Mom! Thanks for watching.
Oh my goodness, you nailed it! I purchased one in Florida and a few of the neighbors are real fruitcakes. Drive me crazy. And the management likes to micromanage everything you do. I will be selling on the spring. Never, Never again.
Almost 66, still working as a nurse (42 years) I am the oldest nurse in the facility and have no problem keeping up with the 19 year old nurse’s aide’s, majority of my friends between 30’s to 50’s… I cannot imagine moving to a place full of busybodies where they have nothing to do all day but get in someone’s business and sit and gossip, I would not fit in at all… plan on working into my 70’s even if part time, seems like people I know who completely retire start having memory issues and seem much older than what they are and seem to have more issues with depression…
I'm betting you can run circles around the young people! You'd be amazed though how young and active people are in the Arizona 55+ neighborhoods. These are not apartments where people are just older. These areas offer so many things to do. People work their bodies and their minds. Many still work a part time job just for fun. Lots of cool options for places to live after 55! Thanks for watching my channel!!
retired nurse, hats off to you! I say if you can, you should continue to work. I found out through my career as nurse that Im not a high energy person. Nursing kicked my young butt but it gave me a great life :) Theres no way Id be happy in any HOA situation...been there got the t shirt and it was a good one with no issues lol
Yes! Im 67 and still working as a floor nurse in a busy hospital. I didnt even start nursing until 12 years ago! I live in FL where we have a few 55+ communities. My kids, who are in their 40s live here in town, my 20 yr old twin grandkids and 2 yr old great granddaughter also. I love it when they come around! I am def one of the oldest nurses but most of them are shocked when I tell them how old I am. I stay fit and active. So def NO to a retirement comm!!
Sandra - - You should have written "might" between "adults" and "joy." What it they drive their bikes across your lawn routinely, dribble basketballs and yell in their driveway next to your living room window for hours on end, run a crappy old car with no exhaust system in their driveway, have lots of other kids and younger adults over to their house who look/act dangerous, and generally make you feel unsafe at times? When you're 65 years old and considering another place to retire, the term "been there, done that" comes to mind.
I recently bought a home on a golf course near the beach in Hawaii in an HOA. Imagine my surprise when I moved in and realized that 85% of the residents were 55+, emphasis on the +. But that is okay because I am 74! What I also discovered was that everyone is into fitness and being active and happy. Sure there’s a couple of oddballs, but they are harmless. There are a couple of houses with kids. It isn’t designated a retirement community, but it is. People are really friendly, and the community is very quiet. I am loving it.
My grandfather lived in a 55+. community. He was healthy until the end, but all of his male buddies moved out because health or they died. This made for a sad life a lot of the time.
Yeah I get it. Happens to my parents all the time where they live. But it’s a good reminder to live your best life and enjoy friends and family every day!
I live in a 55+ community. I was 63 and my wife was 62 in 2015, when we bought in. We have been there many years now. This was the best real estate decision we made. We live in the only cooperative and urban independent senior living situation in our region. It is much less expensive than the house we had. Men and women are near equal in numbers here.
We lived in a 55+ mobile home community for 3 years before I retired. My husband was already retired. We downsized from a large house and decided to move in stages. During that time I was needed to give cpr to three different residents during our time there. 2 were past help and 1 didn’t make it at the hospital. When I retired we moved up north to a nice house. I would not be comfortable in a 55+ again.
That sounds like a nightmare. I wish I could live in a place where the nearest human was at least a mile away. With good walls or borders around the property.
I’m not moving into a 55 plus community! I’m buying some land ! There is no way I’m going to be bothered with any of that foolishness. Why would anyone want to be bothered? Giving my money to a HOA only to be harassed and constantly told what to do? I don’t have the personality for this. I can only imagine how crazy these people are.
I'm 58,moved in at 55. Its quiet. Everyone minds their own business, keeps up with their lawn and looks out for each other. When we go out of town, everyone keeps an eye out for our place. We are not involved with any activities because we choose not to be. We have the pool, we've rented the hall for church functions for free and a gym we use daily. Living in a border town where you have to worry all the time about theft. Has made this place a safe haven for me to walk around at night safely in this gated community. Its not perfect, but for the trade off, I love it.
I think before buying people need to look past the amenities and see what you will have to put up with , I’m with you I don’t have the mind set for that.
My sister lives in an HOA. She loves it. My sister is also a narcissist. (I'm not implying everyone who lives in such places are narcissists.) She found her tribe in the HOA and they live their lives slightly superior to the neighbors, together. (Have you SEEN the Miller's lawn? It's a quarter inch too short!) SCANDALOUS!
I agree with you; no way I would EVER buy a house in a HOA area. Those people are like geriatric Nazis with the power to foreclose on your house that you paid for in CASH.
We currently live next to a church school and daycare. Many kids come walking by each day. We also have barking dogs and kids screaming in a play yard. We love it all. I am 72 and work at my small company every day. Life is good.
I love that! It will keep you young for sure! I’m glad you’ve made choices that work so well for you! Really appreciate you watching my videos!! Thank you. 🙂❤️🙂
Dave, you sound like the type of human who is at ease with themselves, and therefore you can gather joy from life around you, even when loud, and messy! Congratulations kind Sir, sounds like you won the game of life! Thank you for the great example! So rare, may you, and yours have many more joy filled days💜
We visited one of these communities a few years ago. It was instantly clear when touring how bad this could be. A few conversations, more listening than talking, clearly exposed the underbelly. Old opionated and righteous peeps - we ran. A sad life, but I wish all peace.
This was hilarious, I’m 40 so not ready for said lifestyle yet, but I loved your descriptions. Gotta love busybodies, the bane of most neighborhoods:-)
Agreed! Its hilarious even 2 months later...and I'm soon to be 69! God help us all...searching for perfection in an imperfect world, especially after65.🤣
My ex's father died at a ripe old 96 years, his wife 94, God Bless them! We asked why they never moved to Sun City Arizona or the like. Grandpa replied, "Morgue City, never! Ha ha ha ha!"
I live in a 55+ mobile home park with my 80-something mother. We are pretty happy where we are because the park is well run and pretty. The pool and jacuzzi we use almost everyday year round. All kinds of shops and stores are within a 2-mile radius. Space rent is controlled and low (rarity for SoCal). I am young and retired but not part of the social club. I love staying at home doing creative stuff. My mother tends to her 5 trees and veggie pots in the yard. I hope I can live out my life in this park.
I’m so happy to hear this! Good mobile home parks can be hard to find. Sounds like you’re in a perfect spot. I hope you can indeed live out your life there! Thanks for watching my channel!
@@Southwest55Plus In MY 55+ community, everybody's bratty GRANDkids (& great-grands) come, some residents babysit all day, some host birthday parties in the community areas, and the parents AND grandparents aren't accountable! I thought I'd be avoiding all that, but there is more of that than the places I've lived that just had mostly 40-60 yo's.
We have lived in one in Texas for 22 years. Loved it from day one and still do! Never have had any problems like this person is talking about! She’s one of the picky people she’s talking about! Never experienced any of her perceived problems!
You may mention it. But I have to say that just driving to Sun City puts my life in peril due to younger reckless and crazy drivers. It’s not just limited to the elderly. Thanks for watching my video!
Interesting that you are presenting only the negative aspects of living in a 55 plus community. I have lived in one for 5 years and absolutely love it! Granted, our complex is not nearly as fancy as yours - and we rent rather than own - but I am thrilled that I moved here!! Sure we have the occasional complainer but for the most part my neighbors are fantastic. There are plenty of us glad to help one another out when needed. It is a wonderful place to live.
Hi Sue. so glad you love your area. Lots of great ones. The point of the video is to give another point of view. Most places are great but those who expect some kind of perfection might be surprised depending on where they end up. I'm thinking that you know how to be happy in any situation and are a positive person. Thankful for people like you! Thanks so much for watching!
@@Southwest55Plus excellent points and yes even here we have some people who are complainers. But I laugh and say if you don't want to deal with people don't move into a complex with 131 apartments in one huge building lol. It is definitely not perfect and actually you are right that I have learned to be content in my circumstances because my peace and joy comes from the Lord and not in things. A former pastor used to say (and could also apply to apartment complexes or living communities) "You won't find a perfect church; and if you do, don't join it. You will ruin it." 😁😁
Amen to that Sue! They must teach that saying in Seminary--I've heard it from lots of different pastors over the years. It sure rings true though in churches and in neighborhoods as well!
I live in a regular, not so fancy, gated community in West Virginia and we have always had at least one nosy woman with nothing better to do than have her binoculars out to report whatever they can on others. They seem to change about every 10 years but I guess they are everywhere. Lol.
Just wait hopefully no bad neighbors move in ! That includes the bad relatives! That's what happened to me! It changes all fast! The neighbors kids smoking hard drugs in the bathroom and it comes over as second hand smoke! Slamming doors etc. Hopefully you won't get bad neighbors move in but again the relatives can be trouble makers big time! Just a heads up! You are lucky for now with decent neighbors it can change very fast! Just a heads up!
When I was in my 20's, I moved from an apartment complex in the city that had section 8 housing to a condominium complex with mostly seniors and NO section 8. It was the best move I ever made.
This was very informative. I currently have a vacation home in a community with lots of retiree neighbors. Some of them trespass properties and count vehicles in order to report to the HOA. I don’t want to be that person when I retire. 😢
I built a home in 2006 in an active adult community in AZ for my "eventual" retirement; I was 45 years old at the time. There is a misnomer, at least in this particular community that one needs to be 55 to reside there, as there can actually be a percentage of people younger, but they do need to be over a certain age. Anyway, I've spent time over there while working in the valley and vacationing there and such all these years, and have always enjoyed my time. I also found years ago that I could rent my house to snowbirds during the winter months to the extent that it would pay all my expenses to own the home. Now that I've actually retired I enjoy going over and spending more time, although, I still rent to snowbirds. I've met so many great friends that every time I visit I have an absolute blast, and there are so many things to do, and I don't even play golf or pickle-ball. Anyway, I found that at least for me it's been a great second home as well as a great investment, and the lifestyle is second to none, as it's like living in a five star resort.😃
My mom was in a 55+ community prior to her getting dementia at 85. It was gated, which we found very comforting. The best thing I could see was the vetted services available, such as handymen, etc. Also the ability for her to participate in a variety of programs and activities without the need to drive outside the gates. The HOA fees were very high mainly due to the golf course maintenance, which mom didn’t use. On the other hand, there was a regular maintenance schedule of painting and so on included in the fees. It was a good solution for my mom.
Just after turning 55, I found a brand new "Senior" building 20 miles south of a major metropolitan area. We don't have a pool, or tennis courts, or rooftop deck, but it's very quiet which is what I wanted to offset the constant noise of working at an international airport. I'm now 67, retired, and love this place. All the best...Mark
People are always recommending that I go to a 55+ community and/or recommend towns that are nice and quiet. Really annoys me! First, I don't want to live with all the old folks. I might find myself with all the + people and then what? Will we spend time chatting about our different ailments? Heck no! And why a quiet town? Am I suppose to be prepping for the quietness of my eventual death. Again, Hell no. I want to go to a lively town, populated, busy, traffic, noisy, lots of restaurants and yeah, even those annoying kids. Basically, I want to live my older years seeing life, not just remembering.
I think you might find that the reverse is true. In most 55+ communities, people are too busy doing fun things to worry about their ailments. You might want to do a visit to one and see what you think. Thanks for watching!
Good points to consider! I have lived in 55+ communities for over 20 years. The community I live in is organized as a condo, and the condo board is like an HOA. But I find that our board is not wanting to spend money--just the opposite. They sometimes go too cheap and try to get volunteers to do the work. That keeps the monthly maintenance fee low, but it isn't a good idea if common property is becoming run down. Another aspect is that our community is located in a town and a county. Some residents forget that! The laws of these larger governmental bodies need to be followed--we are not a little kingdom entire unto ourselves. Also, lots of activities and events go on outside the community. There's no need to socialize only within the complex.
I live in a 55+ building - best place I have lived so far. I also work in a 62+ building and people are VERY happy there. Depends on management and tenants - just like anyplace else.
After working 8 to 5 for over 30+ years and putting up with emails and my phone ringing with someone ALWAYS wanting something I can tell you I DISDAIN people. I don't want ANYONE knowing what I do or ANYTHING about me. I ALSO do NOT like constant RISING FEES.....AND THE RIDICULOUS RULES.
I have wintered in 6 different 55 plus communities and have not disliked any one of them overall. My least favorite was the smallest and was appalled to see in the weekly news a Notice for residents who might see a cat in a window to report it to the Office. I have found nitpickers to make up 1-5% of a community but 95% are great companions and fun to be around. Death is a reality in these parks and women outlive men so we see more. I prefer resident-owned communities over land lease. In my last community we had a large clubhouse that was being torn down for a new one, some of the older residents did not like the resulting increase in monthly fees but the community had Grown younger and these younger were able to gather the necessary votes. I hope to find an area to permanently stay. There are always pros and cons to every location.
Thanks for your positive attitude! I am thinking about moving to a 55+ neighborhood and specifically Del Webb. The horror stories scare me! I suppose you're going to find those no matter who you build with and where you go, but there seems to be a LOT online about Del Webb. We just like the idea of the maintenance free living, ability to socialize and the proximity to where we live.
Interesting and informative, I always thought it would be fun to live in a 55 an older community, not because I think I would be happier but I think it would be fun to have so many activities out my front door.
I lived close by a 55 plus community for a while I was not 55 at the time. I would like to walk my dogs thru their streets because it was very quite with very little traffic. When they spot you coming down the street they open their garages and walk outside and watch me walk by. So I would stop in front of them and stare back at them for a few minutes then walk on. Never failed. Never would I ever want to live in such a place, even though I'm 69 now.
That community must not have any activities if all they have to do is watch people walking by. No wonder you don't want to live there! Thanks for watching!
Were you walking your dog on their private property? I have brown spots on my dwarf shrubs from dog urine. Evidently corner lots are an advertisement "This is a doggie park and I love cleaning up their poo-poo!" I would live in a 55 plus community under one rule - no doggies!
My village was a 55 and over but then it was bought by new owners and they're bringing in manufactured homes really nice ones the problem is we still have a lot of the third generation 4th generation from the original 55 and over owners. I have been harassed since I moved in. I've been bullied. The new owners can't do anything to get these people out of here. The covid especially has made it hard because nobody can be evicted the guy next door to me has been bullying me for 4 years since I moved in my husband had cancer in Alzheimer's I knew he was coming to the end of his crucible I needed a place that was user friendly because I had broken my hip and I couldn't carry him anymore. This jerk next door to me has poisoned my grass hurls insulted slurs at me when he's outside I've only had my family together twice here and he has his car not 20 ft from my picnic table and bless the pyrotechnum music that they use for background noise for concerts. The owners can't do a thing about getting him out of here because all he ever claims is he can't help it he has a disability. I would not advise anyone to move into a 55 and over or a manufactured village.
Hi l live in Australia and my heart goes out to you. I live in subsidised housing . And l had dmsome druggie nut case living directly above me. He too was protected by the housing authority. I ended up trying to commit suicide on several occasions and was hospitalised 12 times in the 8 years of living beneath him. Also the apartment where l lived had a hollow wall and a metal stair case attached so l had the horrific noise from that to contend with. He would taunt me as well. Any way after 8 years of begging and fighting and my psychiatrist fighting lam now living somewhere far more appropriate. I pray your awful situation comes to an end SOON. LOVE GALE ❤ 😍 💖 ❣ 💕 💘
I live in a new neighborhood in The Villages Florida. Most of us are about the same age between 55 and 70. My neighbors are great and very helpful. I have a bad hip and have not had it fixed yet so I am more to my house than not. But our neighborhood is very active as is the whole of the villages with 3000 clubs and pools in every area. I believe we have about a 100 pools and 70 golf courses. And growing. I personally enjoy the summers because it is less crowded and it is easier to get into venues like restaurants. But our snowbirds are a big part of our community and I don't mind either way. I have been here a year and I really love it here. I've had very few issues and I love my house. And I love Florida. If there is a downside since the last couple years hurricanes the insurance has gone up. But I lived in Colorado before and I don't find it significantly different. Though our insurance for vehicles is higher here because there are more accidents. There are some people who should not be driving and do.
I’m so glad to hear that you love The Villages! I’m from Colorado too so I remember those hailstorms that made the insurance high. Staying active is the key to good health and happiness. Get that hip fixed and you’ll wonder why you waited so long. I appreciate you watching my channel!
Thanks for adding the positive of retirement communities! I live in The Villages 5.5 yrs now too and people are old and mean and drive bad everywhere, so not sure what all the negativity is here as there are a lot of wonderful friendly people everywhere if you can attract good people and not be a jerk yourself, the way I see it! Nowhere is perfect, but TV certainly is a special kind of paradise and hundreds of thousands came! Still building for the demand! Many of us are in the boonies south too! Living in peace with social and sports only a short drive away! I am staying!
@@Southwest55Plus Some retirement communities of the new age really work! There’s bad people everywhere and we just avoid them and have plenty of wonderful nice friends our own age to do things with! We are not lonely here and there’s tons to do! We live longer! Florida is becoming a utopia though even with gated family communities and that may backfire someday, as I know it’s all about money for builders and the infrastructure is always insufficient! Lack of medical here for 170 thou people plus outside locals is a disaster as well as the road wear & tare maint funds can’t keep up!
We moved into a 55+ 2 months after turning 55. Best decision ever. Our community is awesome lots of clubs and activities. If you don't get involved that's your fault!
You fail to realize that some of us prefer peace and quiet. Not nosy neighbors and cliques. Some of us prefer to do things by ourselves or with one or two people.
I live in a 55+ community and like it. I stay out of the politics and rarely go to meetings. It's less expensive to live here than when I was in a regular house and lots of activities. It's a good place to live if you don't let every little thing bother you.
I’m 55 and have been in Green Valley AZ for a year and a half. I love it! I’m a person who likes various activities/clubs/classes and GV does not disappoint. Also being 30 minutes from Tucson is a plus.
I haven’t found anyone who is waiting to die. All of my clients who buy in active adult communities are actively living. They hike, bike, golf, swim. They can run circles around me! You might be surprised at how fun these neighborhoods can be!
The original Sun City AZ is amazing! Very low fee for 2 people on deed to enjoy everything, under $500/year. We have some righteous people who like to stir pots but there are thousands more of us who are happy and too busy enjoying life to give it a care.
I choose not to get out and participate in all the activities. I’m very happy doing my creativity projects at home. It’s nice to know I can if I want, but hanging around with others all the time is not necessary for me. I’m an introvert and being home is great!
As a home health nurse, I visited a lot of these places. Most of the people were fairly happy there. But complex rules were usually pretty limiting. All I can say is, if you are a boomer who wants to have any noisy vices in his or her life, steer clear. If you want to haul in there on your Harley, party hardy, smoke anything; or make a joyful noise of any sort, or essentially any noise, you will not be happy. Some of these places do not allow smoking anywhere on the property. A patient of mine told me she was threatened with eviction because her caregiver lit up a cig on her way out of the complex to go the the neighborhood convenience store.
Parents almost moved into one of these, but my family came as a 'set' and I was two years too young even though quieter than many of those elders. Years later mom decided she was glad we didn't move because the shopping was so much farther away from where we did settle.
I'm 71 and there are very few fellow senior citizens I would choose to be around. Most are boring and tired, set in their ways, full of complaints... After all, the purpose of a senior community is to isolate yourself from the rest of the world, not engage with it. I'd rather follow my interests in the larger society, and if I happen to meet fellow seniors while doing it then there's a good chance we share similar outlooks. Being around younger people helps keep me young, helps my brain stay active.
The biggest con with living in a 55 plus community is loosing friends as they age and die. Always keep yourself out there meeting new people. One big advantage is meeting people that are in your age group and have a lot in common. It is nice too to back out of your driveway and not worry about someone's kid on a bicycle. The advantage of HOA is also bundling expenses, we get a great price for cable and internet. They also mow our lawn and keep the common areas lovely. They also prevent you from having a neighbor that trashes their yard or stores boats etc next to your house. There are activities and entertainment. The expense are minor for what you get! Absolutely love it!
Yes--lots of pros and cons. I'm at an age where I losing friends no matter where they live. Just part of life but that doesn't make it easy. Thanks so much for watching!
There's that old saying, "Wherever you go, there you are.". Your life doesn't magically change because you move to a new location. Anyone who believes the brochures and the movies is being delusional. Every community has a wide variety of people, and the brochures are often old and outdated.
HOA boards are the worst, some people will move in with a pile of cash renovate their home to make it look absolutely beautiful, but then they expect everybody else's place to look like theirs. And if you're a senior on Social Security God help you if these people Target you. Those are the people that get on the board and make everybody else's life hell, not just yours.
I see much of the same at the IL/AL community I work for. Too much idle time seems to go hand-in-hand with nitpicking. And the rumor mill puts the internet to shame! Fun and factual video!
I'm six years away from being 55. Am I moving to a community that is 55+? No way, Jose!!!!! I'm a native Floridian, born and raised and I know for a fact that Arizona and Florida are quite similar with respect to retirees living in 55+ communities. It's just like Shawn said: It's expensive. You're surrounded by busy bodies, people who think they know it all, and those individuals who try their damnedest to one up everyone else. And on top of that, there is the remote possibility that none of those activities mesh with your interests. No thanks!
I've lived in a 55+ community for 7 years. Some things depend on the rules of your community. Here, minors under 18 can live with you up to 4 weeks a year, so there are lots of kids here in the summer using the pool. Neighbors look out for each other regarding health, car problems, a helping hand with groceries, etc.
It's nice to have a clean, decent place to live. 🏘 Florida has issues with some apts having squatters, unauthorized occupants. I'd add to screen-check staff, workers. Crime & attacks can occur with felons, illegal or "undocumented" people who work labor jobs then steal items or harm staff, visitors.
My only regret after living here for 2 years is that I did not get my MOM here 20 years ago. All the activities and hobbies and crafts and sports and parties and good people she would have loved it. She passed in 2018 but my Mom would have so loved it here.
We have plenty. Don’t be fooled by the agenda based reporting. The water crisis is limited to one community that was built without city water in the first place.
I live in a 55+ community in central Florida. I love it here. There is always something going on, and the neighbors look out for each other. We do have snowbirds 6 months here, 6 months up north. Some work part time, others have different hobbies. The bonus is there are quite a few trades folk who can do anything from minor repair to building additions - all for a lot less than hiring some company. If you live in Florida, most places have an HOA.
I am old, being around other old people can be challenging. The conversations usually migrate to all the health problems. I'd rather be alone and just involved in my hobbies.
I'm only late forties, but yeah I hear ya. Rather be with my guitars, model airplanes, bicycle, and most of all, my dogs! In my area, they all talk about politics, or health problems. My mother is 74, but still talks about future plans. That's how you go on living.
Yes but is 55 old enough to live in a nursing home?
@@Celticmist-qz6veIt's called Independent Living
Same here. People irritate tf out of me.
@scruffy4647 Then why not just keep to yourself? You don't have to join the group.
“Why would I want to live there with all those OLD people?”……….My Mom, age 88.
I think she’s be surprised at how active our “old” people are in many AZ communities.
I love your mom.
I was talking with a 92 year old man in Florida, and I asked him if he ever goes to the pool. He said, "Nah, just a bunch of old people there." Full of happiness.
What people ? I don't see anyone..lol
Those" old people" in my community are much more active than people in regular neighborhoods I've lived in. They never stop with all kinds of activities. I don't join in much as I'm a bit of an introvert. I'm lucky to have a good HOA. Pool is there if I feel like it, but usually don't.
Disagree with the point of view that people who like to hang by themselves are negative. I like to hang by myself and feel great until those people who like to hang in groups and become offended or resentment if I don't join in. I like relaxing - I like enjoying nature. I would prefer to meet that 1 or 2 people who I trust, who I income their company and conversation. I don't enjoy everyone's conversation and after working for years: I looked forward to picking who I hung out with and who I wanted nothing to do with.
Yes, this is because extroverts derive their energy from other people, and introverts derive their energy from themselves. A common misconception is that introverts don’t like people ( are negative) not true of course, but are misunderstood generally. It could be a highly “social “ environment like a Sun City, is just not the best “match”, for a introvert. Interesting topic.
I think there are still lots of great things for introverts to do in a 55 Plus community. There are art classes, libraries, fitness gyms and more. I want to take some art classes for me and don’t want to interact with anyone but the instructor. When I go to the gym I don’t talk to anyone. The key with these communities is to make it what works for you as an individual. Don’t rely on someone’s idea of what it is for them or what it should be for you. Do what makes you happy!!
@@Southwest55Plus I totally agree with the comment Extroverts get their energy from other people and I think they like noise. There was a man who gave classes so people could understand one another. He lined people up on one side who like to talk and those don't need a lot of conversation. The talkers thought they were doing everyone a favor and creating noise- and the introverts told them they would prefer quiet, they were happy with quiet. Extroverts were surprised. I am living now in a community of many retirees and I have been abused by what I call the extroverts. They are women who like to run programs and they EXPECT and have told me I am obligated to socialize. That's because they need people to attend their project meetings to feel successful. They go out in the middle of the night and taunt me to punish me or not socialism. I was told I better learn to socialize. I am very reluctant to get involved with a 55 and over community again, your suggestions were great - but the extroverts can be mean and self centered and want to punish others for not joining in. There is also a 1 time fe where I live, 5,000 that is paid when people buy homes, maybe those running projects are getting paid from the 1 times fees - a real estate agent told me -TOLD ME to sell my home so they can get the 1 time fee. There are a few young people, and some of the old people have taught them socializing is expected and the children taunt people, they learned that behavior is acceptable from the cranky bossy control freaks. My experience has been bad - if I don't like someone, I walk the other way, if someone doesn't like me, I walk the other way. The bossy socializer - don't - they need people.
The worse thing about any job was the backstabbers.
From my experience most people suck and are to be avoided at all costs.
I lived in a 55plus apartment building outside of Seattle for a couple of years. The manager treated residents like children. There were the “mean girls” who tried to run the shows. I decided to buy a house but I couldn’t afford one in the whole state. This was 5 years ago before the price of homes everywhere became unaffordable. I returned to East Tn where I grew up and purchased a small house, 570 sq ft, for $99,000. Best decision I have made. My house value is now $150,000. 😂😂😂
Glad you’re enjoying Tennessee. Beautiful state!
@@Southwest55Plus I met a trucker that lived at high altitude to escape the heat and high humidity. He was in heaven.
I agree with your post. I spent just some time going to a Senior center in my city . OH! My 🤦♀️😳🙄 the conversations were so unpleasant. I to will be planning to buy a house, the experience of just visiting a Senior center was enough for me to say NO WAY to a Senior community or Senior apartment living. I to live in Tennessee.
Sounds like a HOA
So, is it better to live in a crine ridden sh..thole like crime ridden Chicago, Seattle, or the CHOP zone of Seattle?
How about living in crone ridden New Orleans or Baltimore, for that matter?
I am 55 and live in a 55 plus community. I love it. It’s peaceful and everyone is friendly. I stay out of the gossip and no one bothers me.
So glad you love it! There are many great 55+ communities out there for sure!
Me too! We moved from a middle class California neighborhood where homeless started setting up mattresses on the sidewalk to sleep. I now live in paradise! We walk all over the neighborhood, feed the ducks and ride bikes.
@@Southwest55Plus Same here, cheap living and all utilities paid except internet. Stay more to myself and am not big on becoming part of groups or activities. All I need.
Same here. My upper apartment faces the sunrise. I see trees; behind the trees are birds, a subdivision with young families, and QUIET. At night, I hear coyotes and owls! Most of the residents here are lonely elderly widows, and some very flirtatious old gents!😆As a youngster(I'm 62)the manager hired me to do cleaning, and put me in charge of turnover -- sanitizing vacant apartments to prepare them for a new tenant. As a young widow myself, it's SO NICE to support myself doing work that I enjoy! And the lower, heated parking garage is pure heaven. I feel safe, cozy, and very, very comfortable in this building with my sweet 'oldsters' for neighbors💗
I live in one it's duplexes. Quiet,safe,affordable. I'm 61. No bullying,etc. HOA is fine. Everyone does their own thing& minds their own business including me. Depends on where your'e at. Thankfully my area is is fine.😊
I am 70, l live alone in a small studio apartment in a rural town, and feel so content. I enjoy my own company and am perfectly happy reading, taking walks with my cameras, and exploring UA-cam. Life is wonderful without people.☕🌿👍
lol, 😂 I love the last sentence 👍🤣
Perfect!❤
OK, so I'm 70+. I really like watching kids going to school, running around the neighborhood yelling and screaming. That's life folks. I know, middle schoolers can be a pain-in-the-butt, I was one of those. But on the whole, the broader the community, in age, in background, in ethnicity...the better I like it.
So glad we all have choices. Sounds like you’re in a great place. Thanks for watching.
AMEN FRIEND AMEN I WANT TO SEE LIFE WE WERE THERE ONCE YOU SAID IT. 56 AND 60 I
LOVE PLAYING CATCH WITH THEM . MY OLDEST MARRIED DON'T WANT CHILDREN YES IT KILLS ME. MY MIDDLE IN ANOTHER STATE THEY ARE WAITING FOR EVER. AND OH MY THE YOUNGEST IS TOO YOUNG. THESE KIDS ARE BEAUTIFUL. IT'S LIFE IT'S BEAUTIFUL FIND SOMETHING YOU LIKE AND JOIN IT. ASK FOR A RIDE.
PHOENIX BIG AREAS ARE HOT NO THANKS I AM IN IN A SMALL COMMUNITY . NOT SAYING WHERE WE DONT WANT MORE PEOPLE.
LOVE AND PRAYERS
i too like the business
I agree! One of my jobs is part time/on call flower delivery. Many people in the 55+ communities receive flowers. There is always a "narrow" and "sterile" feeling in those places. Like Edward Meade, I prefer neighborhoods that include the boisterous children, the up-and-coming young adults, etc.
At 62, I have no time for pickleball, golf carts, the smell of Bengay, and a neighborhood full of Karens on the loose.
At some point you might want to visit one of our awesome AZ communities. Lots of fun to be had when your life slows down. Thanks for watching!!
You're killing me, you are so funny. I agree. I am 66, everyone says I look 50. So, no Karen's for me either.
I heard its the people (with the most money in the bank) run these places.. They flock to these places for a fiefdom
HOA ‘s can be a nuisance in non 55+ communities as well.
Totally agree! It all depends on who is on the board. Generally though they are pretty good overall. Thanks for watching!
Those running HOAs are a breed I tend to avoid in all their iterations.
Our HOA has functioned well in the 11 years I have lived here. If the board is not following its own bylaws or the covenants, owners can take action.
For sure, so don't compound it with old control freak and OCD neighbors
Absolutely!!!
I am in my 70s. No way in hell would I ever live in an over-55 community or apartment complex. Think junior high school, complete with mean girls, cliques and drama.
Watch out for angry old women. Nothing to do but push written regulations to the max. Plants, colors, lawn decor and more. NO THANKS HOA IS THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD. US Military Vet and Patriot
I went from running a college age community to a 55 plus community in the 70s. Old evil people are better at being evil than young evil people. They've had more practice at it. I'm retired now living out in the sticks with few people around and loving it, working on the house, built a workshop, now finishing up my houseboat that I've been working on a few years.
Reminds me of a P.J. O'Rourke book title: " Age and guile beat youth, innocence, and a bad hair cut"
It was quiet here in March 2021. COVID. I was the only one in my hall. Plenty of parking. The building is beautiful, but I didn’t see the forest (crime, gang activity, etc.) through the trees.
After 2 years the free parking, EV charging stations and peace and quiet are gone.
I need to get away from mean, old people. Considering a road trip to commune with nature and heal my soul before settling down again.
Thank you for validating my observations and experiences.
agreed 100%
There is a book called: A Generation of Sociopaths - How the Baby Boomers Betrayed America. If you want to find true happiness, avoid boomers at all costs. The 55 and up communities are full of them - sociopaths run wild. They are selfish in the extreme.
Dang! You are absolutely correct! Old evil ones are the worst! But I'm social to a point. A friendly wave is all you'll get! And no one darkens my doorsteps! All of my fun would be had outside of that community!
I'm 65 and visited a 55 plus apartment complex. New building, nice apartments, quiet. It reminded me of the nursing homes I worked in,no youth, no vitality. Such is life, there is a trade-off for every decision we make. I am undecided. Thank you for the content of this video.
Pros and cons to every location. Hope you find the one that will work best for you!
I’m 23. I promise you most young people are very chill and won’t bother you. I don’t understand why anyone would want to live in segregated communities, I like speaking to people of all generations.
No kids riding their bikes in the hallways, or slamming doors.
@@angelgjr1999 I agree with you, I would miss hearing children and the young adults. I'm in a house where we have a wonderful mix of all ages in the neighborhood.
@@Southwest55Plus im considering moving my dad to sun city, he's older and i would be living with him, i'm under 55 and more likely will be when he passes.....do they kick me out or do they grandfather me in? How does that work?
Society needs our elders for guidance to stay in community they have lived all their lives, we need affordable housing!!!!
I agree. We need options for all ages and income levels. Thanks for watching!
Yes!
affordable housing...yes - guidance ...not so much!
Yes! The financial aspect is a big consideration!
AGREE!!!!!!
I live in my own home at 90 years of age. My neighborhood is like a 55 plus community with some younger tenants. We have a community park and swimming pool. It's crime free and next to a medical center complex with an adjacent upscale super market. What not to like?
Wow! I’m thrilled that you’re living in such a great place!! Thanks so much for watching my video!!
Where are you living?
Friends of mine, during the height of the pandemic, lived in one of these communities. Their grandson (13) came to stay isolated with them because his parents were doctors who worked high-risk. His school was on-line, he was quiet and never left the house or back yard. But nosy neighbors reported them anyway. So, they decided to sell and picked the rudest buyer that offered the right price. Friends from the community reported regularly about how miserable their former neighbors were. 😀
Wow! People can be so cruel. Glad they got out of there! Thanks for watching.
I think people have gotten meaner since Covid. I saw a video where a neighbor reported children for being outside playing. (Unrelated to this video topic and just to your comment). Thankfully, we live in a regular semi-country neighborhood, and the neighbors who normally hung out together never stopped during Covid. Our kids still played and we just counted ourselves as family as we were used to being together all the time anyway. I would never want to live somewhere people act that way!
Thing is though, why are there rules? Who decides who can break this or that rule, but the next situation is different? I'm not for snitches, but the situation you describe is ripe for replication that never ends.
Ha good
Our board of directors may have made an exception for the reason of it being a temporary hardship.
I'm 72, I 've been living in an 55+ for the last 14 yrs. No problems to speak of. I mind my business and they mind theirs. I get along well with the other residents.🇺🇸😎
Im in AZ. I moved this week into a 55 plus because I couldn't get a Section 8 place. I'm 59 and not interested in activities. I have my own stuff to keep me busy and I'm a homebody and loner, I wouldn't anwer my door if someone comes by. I'm plenty busy as I want to be.
Sounds like you've got a big life on your own. That is great! Thanks so much for watching!
Sounds like me! Just leave me be.❤
I was in my 20s in the 1980s. Now I'm almost 59. I can't believe I'm more than old enough to qualify for 55-plus communities and over-55 menus at Denny's and IHOP.
I feel the same way! But I do take all the Senior Discounts that I can . Crazy feeling though. Thanks for your view!
Welcome to my world....
Consider yourself fortunate. Many never make it to enjoy a Grand Slam breakfast.
I can't believe it either...where did my life 😫go? 59
I know. I can't believe I qualify as a senior. :(
I sold my condo and moved into a 55# apartment complex 6 years ago and absolutely love it!! Wonderful neighbors who are there for one another when someone needs something. We even swap around household items we no longer want. Community dinners and parties. Incredible onsite management and concierge service. A shuttle bus that hauls us around free. Gorgeous swimming pool, nice fitness center and Community room. Packages delivered right to our apartment doors. I am on 4th floor west and have a view every night og God's glorious handwork in the sunsets. So peaceful. I hope I never have to live anywhere else!!
Where is this 55+ apartment complex?
This sounds just like my community. Mine is a 62+ complex in upstate NY. The apartments are well-maintained. My garbage disposal was just replaced, no questions asked. I was allowed to bring my German Shepherd, and she is loved by the other residents! But most important for me is the absolute peace and quiet.
Please give the name of your complex if it is in the greater Seattle area. I am looking for such a place! Get a referral bonus AND I'll buy you dinner!
What state? ❤
@@akitalady Irony: Peace and quiet and yet has a DOG, which likely is not quiet and barks at everything and disturbing neighbours.
I'm sixty-eight and have a few friends that live in a 55 plus retirement community. Two of them left and bought their new home outside of a retirement community. I'm from California and when I arrived there in Florida to the Villages to visit a friend there for the first time, I was amazed on how huge this place was! It is like they have a state of their own! They have everything you could need (shopping etc) When I got to my friends house and stepped out of the car, I couldn't believe all the curtains on other houses moving to peek at me. I just waved back. It was awful!!! I felt like a alien landing from a spaceship. I was even invited to a monthly social at a neighbors. I went and there were quite a few people, looking at me as I entered the door as if I were fresh tender vittles. Turned out to be the beginning of a swingers party, I walked out. When I got back to California to my home, I was so glad to be back there. Great video!
I've read that STDs in the Villages is an epidemic.
🤣🤣🤣 Crazy
Yankee go home!
You are a big liar!!!! I live here and no such thing as old swingers! You are an idiot typing that crap! You likely did not come here as nobody is home much and we certainly do not stand by our windows looking at hundreds of cars or walkers going by! We have a lot to do outside our homes and you have zero clue!!! Get a life!
I have a little bit to f Gladys Kravitz in me, but I hope to God I am not that obvious!😂
I would NEVER EVER live anywhere that has an HOA. All you need is for one board member to not like you & forget about it. They will make your life miserable. Don't do it!
HOA and acronym for Hitler Over All.
Exactly. HOAs are annoying, even when they are filled with young(er) folks.
You are so right! We have been in one for 8 years-EVERY day when the mail arrives we have to worry (a lot) that some jackass complained about some trivial thing and we get a nasty letter from the HOA threatening a $50 fine (for starters)
for some incredibly petty thing.
That board member might not like you because he/she is JEALOUS about something.
HOA's aren't for everyone. Good to have options isn't it? Thanks for watching!
I worked in a 55+ community. The saddest part was when an old person died or when it was evident that they could no longer safely drive or take care of themselves.
Yeah that is such a hard thing in the older communities. And there is just no way to avoid it. Sad. Thanks for watching my channel.
Yeah I see it everywhere
I'm assuming most of the residents are on the upper end (like 75+) as opposed to the younger end like 55 or 58 lol
It's 10x worse if you happen to be in the street when they figure it out. 😏
@@SoCal9705 exactly. One resident mistook the gas for the brake and drive thru someone else's house. Another ran over a dog that was being walked on a leash and another parked her car in the middle of a highway and got out and walked thinking she was already home. But for the grace of God... 😢
I’m 60 and know my personality. There is just no way I’m going to have another person tell me what to do in my yard or with my house. And to pay extra for that pleasure. I think not. I can’t live in dense housing. It was fun living in an apartment around and with friends when I was young.
It's not for everyone. The communities I specialize in are generally single family homes. Not that dense. Not sure I'd like an apartment either at my age. Thanks for watching!
I live in a 55 plus community where neighbors do watch out for each other, but in a good way. Many of us have health issues and like knowing someone will notice if all of a sudden we are not around. One neighbor who always walked everyday was found unconscious from a fall, because their neighbor asked the land lady to please check on the person.
So glad you've got such a great community! It really makes a difference to have good people around. Thanks for watching!
I lived in a 55 plus condo community taking care of my elderly mom and it was hell. Those old people were constantly harassing me in every way. I couldn't walk to my car without some really insane neighbors cornering me every day. It was depressing and aggravating.
Wow that is awful. I’ve heard lots of negative feedback about 55+ condo buildings but rarely complaints about single family communities. So sorry you had such a bad experience!
@@Southwest55Plus the old neighbors lie in wait outside for me to come out. I couldn't throw out my trash to please them, simply putting it in a dumpster. My car wasn't in straight enough. I said something they didn't like. I had to walk past a group of them to get to my front door. They stood outside night and day to harass me. One went around giving certain people hell about their home insurance. On and on.
@@Universal_Consciousness I think they just did not like you and maybe they had good reason not to.
Want to get old really fast, hang around old people.
Well a younger person certainly shouldn’t live in one in the place
NOTHING is PERFECT!!! My husband and I live in a 55+community and we love it!!! We mind our own business and stay out of others business!!
I love hearing that! So glad that you found such a great community. There are many of them out there. Thanks for watching!!
Those communities are like High school for the elderly. All the busy bodies, cliques, gossipers....
@@annfrost3323 wow…maybe you should be HOA president….
@@stumack9755 And regular neighborhoods that resemble adult elementary schools or unsupervised petting zoos are the other option.
They are basically places for people who are yentas. Many also consider them Gods waiting room. No matter how good they look they are boring and depressing. I will never live in one. Especially one with a totalitarian regime under HOA. No thanks.
My grandparents lived in Sun City, AZ in the 80’s.
I remember visiting them & going to the beautiful pool! My parents lived in Florida & bought in a 55+ community & I inherited their property. At the age of 53, I was able to live part time in the 55+community. After a few years, I still own it & like certain aspects. My neighbors are very nice, even though I do have a Mrs. Kravitz. I think the biggest appeal of 55+ is the maintenance free living…although there is still maintenance that has to be done like power washing, window cleaning etc…but the grass is mowed! There will be always be pros & cons of anywhere you live. For me 55+ living is working well!
So glad you are enjoying your home and your area! I’m with you on the low maintenance thing. 😊 Thanks for watching my channel!
This may be unkind, but perhaps Mrs. Kravitz may exceed you in age, not be of the optimal health, may need to move eventually for some reason and you can just outlast her. Gray rock her in the meantime and because you're boring to her, she might move on to focusing on something else. Fingers crossed. 🤞
Still nice there in 2022
Odd that being 55 or older and can walk behind a power mower, or sit on a riding one, you are instead relegated to washing windows and power washing. I don’t think older people are suitable for that kind of physical work. Basically what you’re saying is the lawn is cared for but you have to pay someone extra to do the things that actually make 55 and older maintenance free. That’s like paying a contractor who provides the brush but you have to paint the house yourself.
I moved to a small new 55+ community in FL looking for some peace and quiet and after 2 years of nonsense with the neighbors and HOA rules I decided to move out. Best decision ever. Now I live in a regular residential area with a wonderful community center managed by the county that provides tons of activities for all ages.
This REALLY helped me make my decision as I was in the process of selling my home to purchase in a senior community! As I did the numbers, I just couldn't justify me paying $2,760.00 per year in HOA fees (I'm 55 years old). 10 years of HOA fees at 230.00 per month would be $27,600, 20 years $55,200 and 30 years $82,800 and that's if the HOA fees don't increase but we all know they will. PLEASE do the numbers before making any decisions. I'm going to stay where I am!
Thank you SO much for your informative video!
My HOA very cheap. I'm lucky.😊
HOA fees always seem to increase. ☹️
Don't buy in an HOA community...
55 is way too young anymore anyway. We only considered it for my inlaws because the communities here are "golf cart friendly". Meaning they could go out to eat, shopping etc close to home without actually driving which was becoming an issue with them. But the fees are high and basically provide nothing. Its essentially their way of keeping out "undesirables" which twlls you all you need to know about who your neighbors would be 🤮
I live in southern CA and practically all places have HOAs.. yes they go up, but they aren’t just in over 55 areas. The over 55 area has a lower HOA, but includes everything I have plus: tv cable, internet, a huge rec area, a pool heated to 84 degrees every day of the year, a lapidary, 2 woodworking rooms, jewelry making room, sewing room, ballroom, gym with many exercise machines, classes in everything from line dancing to water aerobics, and security.
I live in a 55+ apartment complex.
Yes, sometimes it seems like a nursing home, but this 65 year old still operates on a 40 year old mindset. I work, hang out, do my own thing. Not ready for afternoon bingo yet. I keep busy with family and friends. When I shut my door, I'm in my own world.
Mindset is everything. Although I will happily admit that when I go on a cruise ship I love to play bingo. Thanks for watching!
@@Southwest55Plus Yes it is! Hey I admit, I play bingo occasionally, just not where I live; at a bingo hall lol!
barbaralynch3015: and when you shut your door that's how it SHOULD be. I am the same way... someone once said to me:"it's not WHERE you live.. it's HOW you live. I just want a roof over my head that's affordable and my own space.
A "Busy Body" is just a nice way of saying someone is a Covert/Vulnerable Narcissist. Watch out, they are everywhere and can make your life hell!
Thanks for this in-depth video. It has validated everything for me. I almost moved into one of these places and my prayers were answered and I was saved the headaches by God. I am a creative, low, key private person and without needing groups and activities I am so busy doing the things I love. I also work and would continue to do so for as long as I can and I work from home. But you, the videomaker assumed that peace-loving, introverts are unhappy. I have to disagree. Psychologically speaking, people who have no life, are bored to death because they have no creative sides to express themselves or are not willing learn things for free online, for example, they tend to put their noses into others' business. Running around in parties does not make one happy. Happiness is an inside job. People who are unhappy, tend to get involved in everything they can because they believe that things outside of them can bring joy and happiness. It does not. Attaining inner bliss is the path to true happiness. I love, private, low-key and thoughtful neighbors and if I can strike friendship with one of them, that's all I may need. Just my two cents. I thank you again for an honest outlook on 55+ communities.
Love your comment and totally agree!
I'm an introvert and I am retired and I do not belong to any clubs, etc., and I am never bored! I have way too much to do! The last thing I need is something to do! Totally agree with your comment!
I think you misunderstood her. She didn’t say introverts were unhappy, but that social connections might enhance your life.
Amen!❤
@@sherryg1838The video infered strongly that being inside and alone was unhealthy.
Same things can be said for living in an all age condominium. There are so many "snitches" it's unbelievable. I hate mine.
I get it. Some places can be that way. Thanks for watching!
I dealt with gossip like crazy at my last family upscale apartment
I lived in a condo building that predominantly had “elderly” and long term residents there who lived in the building well over 20 years (some of them for 30 years). It was a blessing to someone like me who is an introvert, newly divorced and new to the area. I was in my late 40’s when I moved in and the “old” people took me in and watched over me. My cat got out into the hallway one day and a kindly neighbor helped get him back to my place. Everyone was asleep by 8PM so the building was always quiet (no parties or loud music). The others watched over my place when I was away travelling. No theft of unsecured items in the storage area, garage or patio/deck - “old” people were raised with morals, values and ethics! You could leave anything on your deck and your window open without worry.
Ditto. I've never met so many mean and nasty, unfriendly people in my life -- Condo. My next door "neighbor" got herself on the board, broke the Condo regulations (with the other 2 board members approval,) and built a deck on the common property in our backyards 5" away from my back window. When I got angry about it and wrote a bunch of emails (and called her a few choice words, I'll admit,) she filed a restraining order on me. She made up everything she could think of to get it, including claiming that I'm mentally ill. That's rich coming from her, because she's a nutjob.
Snitches- 😂😂 Sadly there are some bitter,depressed elderly out there.
My mother lives in senior living. I go in several times a week to help her since she is 97. I am 73 and would never consider living in any place like that. There are too many old people in places like that.
I think that’s probably something different than the average active adult neighborhood though. I’m glad you are able to go see your Mom! Thanks for watching.
Oh my goodness, you nailed it! I purchased one in Florida and a few of the neighbors are real fruitcakes. Drive me crazy. And the management likes to micromanage everything you do. I will be selling on the spring. Never, Never again.
Might just be the one you live in. Lots of great places to choose from in Florida. Thanks for watching!
Too bad, I live in a 55+ community and love it.
Almost 66, still working as a nurse (42 years) I am the oldest nurse in the facility and have no problem keeping up with the 19 year old nurse’s aide’s, majority of my friends between 30’s to 50’s… I cannot imagine moving to a place full of busybodies where they have nothing to do all day but get in someone’s business and sit and gossip, I would not fit in at all… plan on working into my 70’s even if part time, seems like people I know who completely retire start having memory issues and seem much older than what they are and seem to have more issues with depression…
I'm betting you can run circles around the young people! You'd be amazed though how young and active people are in the Arizona 55+ neighborhoods. These are not apartments where people are just older. These areas offer so many things to do. People work their bodies and their minds. Many still work a part time job just for fun. Lots of cool options for places to live after 55! Thanks for watching my channel!!
That's just I t the Busy bodies noisy gossip they Thrive on it! I do not fit in .if you have the funds to stay far away from such do.❤
retired nurse, hats off to you! I say if you can, you should continue to work. I found out through my career as nurse that Im not a high energy person. Nursing kicked my young butt but it gave me a great life :) Theres no way Id be happy in any HOA situation...been there got the t shirt and it was a good one with no issues lol
Yes! Im 67 and still working as a floor nurse in a busy hospital. I didnt even start nursing until 12 years ago! I live in FL where we have a few 55+ communities. My kids, who are in their 40s live here in town, my 20 yr old twin grandkids and 2 yr old great granddaughter also. I love it when they come around! I am def one of the oldest nurses but most of them are shocked when I tell them how old I am. I stay fit and active. So def NO to a retirement comm!!
This will be me working as a Nurse. I will retire at 75.
Also, love the Bewitched reference.
Never would live in one of those communities, children and younger adults bring joy, energy, excitement and I love seeing and talking to them.
❤
Well said 👍
Sandra - - You should have written "might" between "adults" and "joy." What it they drive their bikes across your lawn routinely, dribble basketballs and yell in their driveway next to your living room window for hours on end, run a crappy old car with no exhaust system in their driveway, have lots of other kids and younger adults over to their house who look/act dangerous, and generally make you feel unsafe at times? When you're 65 years old and considering another place to retire, the term "been there, done that" comes to mind.
I recently bought a home on a golf course near the beach in Hawaii in an HOA. Imagine my surprise when I moved in and realized that 85% of the residents were 55+, emphasis on the +. But that is okay because I am 74! What I also discovered was that everyone is into fitness and being active and happy. Sure there’s a couple of oddballs, but they are harmless. There are a couple of houses with kids. It isn’t designated a retirement community, but it is. People are really friendly, and the community is very quiet. I am loving it.
My grandfather lived in a 55+. community. He was healthy until the end, but all of his male buddies moved out because health or they died. This made for a sad life a lot of the time.
Yeah I get it. Happens to my parents all the time where they live. But it’s a good reminder to live your best life and enjoy friends and family every day!
They moved out cause they died?
I live in a 55+ community. I was 63 and my wife was 62 in 2015, when we bought in. We have been there many years now. This was the best real estate decision we made. We live in the only cooperative and urban independent senior living situation in our region. It is much less expensive than the house we had. Men and women are near equal in numbers here.
We lived in a 55+ mobile home community for 3 years before I retired. My husband was already retired. We downsized from a large house and decided to move in stages. During that time I was needed to give cpr to three different residents during our time there. 2 were past help and 1 didn’t make it at the hospital. When I retired we moved up north to a nice house. I would not be comfortable in a 55+ again.
Always good to get all the information possible and not just the positive stuff.
That sounds like a nightmare. I wish I could live in a place where the nearest human was at least a mile away. With good walls or borders around the property.
Lots of people feel that way! Thanks for watching!
I’m not moving into a 55 plus community! I’m buying some land ! There is no way I’m going to be bothered with any of that foolishness. Why would anyone want to be bothered? Giving my money to a HOA only to be harassed and constantly told what to do? I don’t have the personality for this. I can only imagine how crazy these people are.
Lots of people feel just like you! Thanks for watching!
I'm 58,moved in at 55. Its quiet. Everyone minds their own business, keeps up with their lawn and looks out for each other. When we go out of town, everyone keeps an eye out for our place. We are not involved with any activities because we choose not to be. We have the pool, we've rented the hall for church functions for free and a gym we use daily. Living in a border town where you have to worry all the time about theft. Has made this place a safe haven for me to walk around at night safely in this gated community. Its not perfect, but for the trade off, I love it.
I think before buying people need to look past the amenities and see what you will have to put up with , I’m with you I don’t have the mind set for that.
My sister lives in an HOA. She loves it. My sister is also a narcissist. (I'm not implying everyone who lives in such places are narcissists.) She found her tribe in the HOA and they live their lives slightly superior to the neighbors, together. (Have you SEEN the Miller's lawn? It's a quarter inch too short!) SCANDALOUS!
I agree with you; no way I would EVER buy a house in a HOA area. Those people are like geriatric Nazis with the power to foreclose on your house that you paid for in CASH.
We currently live next to a church school and daycare. Many kids come walking by each day. We also have barking dogs and kids screaming in a play yard. We love it all. I am 72 and work at my small company every day. Life is good.
I love that! It will keep you young for sure! I’m glad you’ve made choices that work so well for you! Really appreciate you watching my videos!! Thank you. 🙂❤️🙂
Dave, you sound like the type of human who is at ease with themselves, and therefore you can gather joy from life around you, even when loud, and messy! Congratulations kind Sir, sounds like you won the game of life! Thank you for the great example! So rare, may you, and yours have many more joy filled days💜
I love the sound of children playing outside!
We visited one of these communities a few years ago. It was instantly clear when touring how bad this could be. A few conversations, more listening than talking, clearly exposed the underbelly. Old opionated and righteous peeps - we ran. A sad life, but I wish all peace.
Sounds like you have a bad experience on that visit. I haven’t seen that in the many communities where I sell homes. Thanks for watching.
Well one good reason is young males, particularly multiple households of young males, create the most noise, disturbances and crime.
This was hilarious, I’m 40 so not ready for said lifestyle yet, but I loved your descriptions. Gotta love busybodies, the bane of most neighborhoods:-)
Glad you got a kick out of it! Thanks so much for watching!!
Agreed! Its hilarious even 2 months later...and I'm soon to be 69! God help us all...searching for perfection in an imperfect world, especially after65.🤣
I'm renting a mobile home on 50 acres in the middle of nowhere and turned 54 today. No senior HOAs for me
My ex's father died at a ripe old 96 years, his wife 94, God Bless them! We asked why they never moved to Sun City Arizona or the like. Grandpa replied, "Morgue City, never! Ha ha ha ha!"
Wow. That’s funny! Actually it’s the opposite. People are very active in Sun City. My parents love it there. Thanks for watching!
I appreciate his thinking.
My in-laws lived in Sun City for a couple of years, but moved out. Since we lived in Oregon we really didn't learn why
However, the boomers are different than the older generations
They're as different, as your age
Even some young people under 30 like the 50-80s music
I live in a 55+ mobile home park with my 80-something mother. We are pretty happy where we are because the park is well run and pretty. The pool and jacuzzi we use almost everyday year round. All kinds of shops and stores are within a 2-mile radius. Space rent is controlled and low (rarity for SoCal). I am young and retired but not part of the social club. I love staying at home doing creative stuff. My mother tends to her 5 trees and veggie pots in the yard. I hope I can live out my life in this park.
I’m so happy to hear this! Good mobile home parks can be hard to find. Sounds like you’re in a perfect spot. I hope you can indeed live out your life there! Thanks for watching my channel!
Sounds perfect.
33Jenesis: you have the right to be happy.
I'm happiest when there are no brats around or their unaccountable parents.
Sounds like an adult community is your kind of place. Mine too! Thanks for watching!
@@Southwest55Plus In MY 55+ community, everybody's bratty GRANDkids (& great-grands) come, some residents babysit all day, some host birthday parties in the community areas, and the parents AND grandparents aren't accountable! I thought I'd be avoiding all that, but there is more of that than the places I've lived that just had mostly 40-60 yo's.
We have lived in one in Texas for 22 years. Loved it from day one and still do! Never have had any problems like this person is talking about! She’s one of the picky people she’s talking about! Never experienced any of her perceived problems!
Have we met? I didn’t think so…
I moved in with my elderly parents to take care of them in a 55+ community. May I mention the terrible driving of the 55+ people.
You may mention it. But I have to say that just driving to Sun City puts my life in peril due to younger reckless and crazy drivers. It’s not just limited to the elderly. Thanks for watching my video!
Interesting that you are presenting only the negative aspects of living in a 55 plus community. I have lived in one for 5 years and absolutely love it! Granted, our complex is not nearly as fancy as yours - and we rent rather than own - but I am thrilled that I moved here!! Sure we have the occasional complainer but for the most part my neighbors are fantastic. There are plenty of us glad to help one another out when needed. It is a wonderful place to live.
Hi Sue. so glad you love your area. Lots of great ones. The point of the video is to give another point of view. Most places are great but those who expect some kind of perfection might be surprised depending on where they end up. I'm thinking that you know how to be happy in any situation and are a positive person. Thankful for people like you! Thanks so much for watching!
@@Southwest55Plus excellent points and yes even here we have some people who are complainers. But I laugh and say if you don't want to deal with people don't move into a complex with 131 apartments in one huge building lol. It is definitely not perfect and actually you are right that I have learned to be content in my circumstances because my peace and joy comes from the Lord and not in things. A former pastor used to say (and could also apply to apartment complexes or living communities) "You won't find a perfect church; and if you do, don't join it. You will ruin it." 😁😁
Amen to that Sue! They must teach that saying in Seminary--I've heard it from lots of different pastors over the years. It sure rings true though in churches and in neighborhoods as well!
I live in a regular, not so fancy, gated community in West Virginia and we have always had at least one nosy woman with nothing better to do than have her binoculars out to report whatever they can on others.
They seem to change about every 10 years but I guess they are everywhere. Lol.
Just wait hopefully no bad neighbors move in ! That includes the bad relatives! That's what happened to me! It changes all fast! The neighbors kids smoking hard drugs in the bathroom and it comes over as second hand smoke! Slamming doors etc. Hopefully you won't get bad neighbors move in but again the relatives can be trouble makers big time! Just a heads up! You are lucky for now with decent neighbors it can change very fast! Just a heads up!
"If you're not happy now." Well said!
So true right? Thanks for watching!!
Indeed, she makes a lot of sense!
When I was in my 20's, I moved from an apartment complex in the city that had section 8 housing to a condominium complex with mostly seniors and NO section 8. It was the best move I ever made.
Oh boy. Section 8 means you had to live with the undesirables of this world. Glad you lived to get out.
This video is so sensible, and voice easy to listen to.
Like the picture.
This was very informative. I currently have a vacation home in a community with lots of retiree neighbors. Some of them trespass properties and count vehicles in order to report to the HOA. I don’t want to be that person when I retire. 😢
Me neither! I'll be too busy having fun to worry about what others are doing. Thanks for watching!
I built a home in 2006 in an active adult community in AZ for my "eventual" retirement; I was 45 years old at the time. There is a misnomer, at least in this particular community that one needs to be 55 to reside there, as there can actually be a percentage of people younger, but they do need to be over a certain age. Anyway, I've spent time over there while working in the valley and vacationing there and such all these years, and have always enjoyed my time. I also found years ago that I could rent my house to snowbirds during the winter months to the extent that it would pay all my expenses to own the home. Now that I've actually retired I enjoy going over and spending more time, although, I still rent to snowbirds. I've met so many great friends that every time I visit I have an absolute blast, and there are so many things to do, and I don't even play golf or pickle-ball. Anyway, I found that at least for me it's been a great second home as well as a great investment, and the lifestyle is second to none, as it's like living in a five star resort.😃
You pegged the HOA board persona perfectly. These negative people are why HOAs have such a dark reputation.
Sometimes that is true. Still lots of HOAs are well run and function normally. Thanks for watching!
..."No matter where You go, there You are"...
Always rings true!
My mom was in a 55+ community prior to her getting dementia at 85. It was gated, which we found very comforting. The best thing I could see was the vetted services available, such as handymen, etc. Also the ability for her to participate in a variety of programs and activities without the need to drive outside the gates. The HOA fees were very high mainly due to the golf course maintenance, which mom didn’t use. On the other hand, there was a regular maintenance schedule of painting and so on included in the fees. It was a good solution for my mom.
Just after turning 55, I found a brand new "Senior" building 20 miles south of a major metropolitan area. We don't have a pool, or tennis courts, or rooftop deck, but it's very quiet which is what I wanted to offset the constant noise of working at an international airport. I'm now 67, retired, and love this place. All the best...Mark
People are always recommending that I go to a 55+ community and/or recommend towns that are nice and quiet. Really annoys me! First, I don't want to live with all the old folks. I might find myself with all the + people and then what? Will we spend time chatting about our different ailments? Heck no! And why a quiet town? Am I suppose to be prepping for the quietness of my eventual death. Again, Hell no. I want to go to a lively town, populated, busy, traffic, noisy, lots of restaurants and yeah, even those annoying kids. Basically, I want to live my older years seeing life, not just remembering.
I think you might find that the reverse is true. In most 55+ communities, people are too busy doing fun things to worry about their ailments. You might want to do a visit to one and see what you think. Thanks for watching!
@@Southwest55Plus Thanks, I will consider that.
Good points to consider! I have lived in 55+ communities for over 20 years. The community I live in is organized as a condo, and the condo board is like an HOA. But I find that our board is not wanting to spend money--just the opposite. They sometimes go too cheap and try to get volunteers to do the work. That keeps the monthly maintenance fee low, but it isn't a good idea if common property is becoming run down.
Another aspect is that our community is located in a town and a county. Some residents forget that! The laws of these larger governmental bodies need to be followed--we are not a little kingdom entire unto ourselves. Also, lots of activities and events go on outside the community. There's no need to socialize only within the complex.
You make some really good points here. Glad you found my videos!
I live in a 55+ building - best place I have lived so far. I also work in a 62+ building and people are VERY happy there. Depends on management and tenants - just like anyplace else.
Totally agree! Thanks for watching!
No annoying brats , must be pure bliss!
After working 8 to 5 for over 30+ years and putting up with emails and my phone ringing with someone ALWAYS wanting something I can tell you I DISDAIN people. I don't want ANYONE knowing what I do or ANYTHING about me. I ALSO do NOT like constant RISING FEES.....AND THE RIDICULOUS RULES.
I have wintered in 6 different 55 plus communities and have not disliked any one of them overall. My least favorite was the smallest and was appalled to see in the weekly news a Notice for residents who might see a cat in a window to report it to the Office. I have found nitpickers to make up 1-5% of a community but 95% are great companions and fun to be around. Death is a reality in these parks and women outlive men so we see more. I prefer resident-owned communities over land lease. In my last community we had a large clubhouse that was being torn down for a new one, some of the older residents did not like the resulting increase in monthly fees but the community had Grown younger and these younger were able to gather the necessary votes. I hope to find an area to permanently stay. There are always pros and cons to every location.
You make some very good points Hank! Thanks so much for watching. 🙂
Could you tell me your favorite?
Thanks for your positive attitude! I am thinking about moving to a 55+ neighborhood and specifically Del Webb. The horror stories scare me! I suppose you're going to find those no matter who you build with and where you go, but there seems to be a LOT online about Del Webb. We just like the idea of the maintenance free living, ability to socialize and the proximity to where we live.
What in the world did they have against cats?!
@@dragondancer1814 I know right? They are far quieter and cleaner than Dogs too; and don't attack and kill people like dogs!
Interesting and informative, I always thought it would be fun to live in a 55 an older community, not because I think I would be happier but I think it would be fun to have so many activities out my front door.
I lived close by a 55 plus community for a while I was not 55 at the time. I would like to walk my dogs thru their streets because it was very quite with very little traffic. When they spot you coming down the street they open their garages and walk outside and watch me walk by. So I would stop in front of them and stare back at them for a few minutes then walk on. Never failed. Never would I ever want to live in such a place, even though I'm 69 now.
That community must not have any activities if all they have to do is watch people walking by. No wonder you don't want to live there! Thanks for watching!
@@Southwest55Plus They had a pool nobody used that's all.
Were you walking your dog on their private property? I have brown spots on my dwarf shrubs from dog urine. Evidently corner lots are an advertisement "This is a doggie park and I love cleaning up their poo-poo!" I would live in a 55 plus community under one rule - no doggies!
@@breezybird403 you'd fit right in LOL.
Perhaps you should have introduced yourself!!!! Made a friend or two..
You were as bad as they were!!!!
I have lived in an over 55 community. None of the mentioned bothered me. I stayed in my home 24/7 and didn't have to relate to any one.
I'm retired in my 60s and play loud classic rock on electric guitar with drums and bass. Will that be suitable?
Yes and especially if you ask the neighbors to join in. You might be surprised at the talent you find in active actual communities.
My village was a 55 and over but then it was bought by new owners and they're bringing in manufactured homes really nice ones the problem is we still have a lot of the third generation 4th generation from the original 55 and over owners. I have been harassed since I moved in. I've been bullied. The new owners can't do anything to get these people out of here. The covid especially has made it hard because nobody can be evicted the guy next door to me has been bullying me for 4 years since I moved in my husband had cancer in Alzheimer's I knew he was coming to the end of his crucible I needed a place that was user friendly because I had broken my hip and I couldn't carry him anymore. This jerk next door to me has poisoned my grass hurls insulted slurs at me when he's outside I've only had my family together twice here and he has his car not 20 ft from my picnic table and bless the pyrotechnum music that they use for background noise for concerts. The owners can't do a thing about getting him out of here because all he ever claims is he can't help it he has a disability. I would not advise anyone to move into a 55 and over or a manufactured village.
Hi l live in Australia and my heart goes out to you. I live in subsidised housing . And l had dmsome druggie nut case living directly above me. He too was protected by the housing authority. I ended up trying to commit suicide on several occasions and was hospitalised 12 times in the 8 years of living beneath him. Also the apartment where l lived had a hollow wall and a metal stair case attached so l had the horrific noise from that to contend with. He would taunt me as well. Any way after 8 years of begging and fighting and my psychiatrist fighting lam now living somewhere far more appropriate. I pray your awful situation comes to an end SOON. LOVE GALE ❤ 😍 💖 ❣ 💕 💘
Sorry to hear that you've had problems. Hope things change for you soon. Thanks for watching!
@@donpeace894 You seem like a bully yourself with that kind of talk.
I live in a new neighborhood in The Villages Florida. Most of us are about the same age between 55 and 70. My neighbors are great and very helpful. I have a bad hip and have not had it fixed yet so I am more to my house than not. But our neighborhood is very active as is the whole of the villages with 3000 clubs and pools in every area. I believe we have about a 100 pools and 70 golf courses. And growing. I personally enjoy the summers because it is less crowded and it is easier to get into venues like restaurants. But our snowbirds are a big part of our community and I don't mind either way. I have been here a year and I really love it here. I've had very few issues and I love my house. And I love Florida. If there is a downside since the last couple years hurricanes the insurance has gone up. But I lived in Colorado before and I don't find it significantly different. Though our insurance for vehicles is higher here because there are more accidents. There are some people who should not be driving and do.
I’m so glad to hear that you love The Villages! I’m from Colorado too so I remember those hailstorms that made the insurance high. Staying active is the key to good health and happiness. Get that hip fixed and you’ll wonder why you waited so long. I appreciate you watching my channel!
Thanks for adding the positive of retirement communities! I live in The Villages 5.5 yrs now too and people are old and mean and drive bad everywhere, so not sure what all the negativity is here as there are a lot of wonderful friendly people everywhere if you can attract good people and not be a jerk yourself, the way I see it! Nowhere is perfect, but TV certainly is a special kind of paradise and hundreds of thousands came! Still building for the demand! Many of us are in the boonies south too! Living in peace with social and sports only a short drive away! I am staying!
@@Southwest55Plus
Some retirement communities of the new age really work! There’s bad people everywhere and we just avoid them and have plenty of wonderful nice friends our own age to do things with! We are not lonely here and there’s tons to do! We live longer! Florida is becoming a utopia though even with gated family communities and that may backfire someday, as I know it’s all about money for builders and the infrastructure is always insufficient! Lack of medical here for 170 thou people plus outside locals is a disaster as well as the road wear & tare maint funds can’t keep up!
We moved into a 55+ 2 months after turning 55. Best decision ever. Our community is awesome lots of clubs and activities. If you don't get involved that's your fault!
I am so glad to hear that you found a great community! The bulk of them are amazing! Thanks for watching my channel!
You fail to realize that some of us prefer peace and quiet. Not nosy neighbors and cliques. Some of us prefer to do things by ourselves or with one or two people.
Why does it have to be a "fault" to not want to be involved? Some people enjoy their own company or much smaller groups.
I live in a 55+ community and like it. I stay out of the politics and rarely go to meetings. It's less expensive to live here than when I was in a regular house and lots of activities. It's a good place to live if you don't let every little thing bother you.
I’m 55 and have been in Green Valley AZ for a year and a half. I love it! I’m a person who likes various activities/clubs/classes and GV does not disappoint. Also being 30 minutes from Tucson is a plus.
I'm 72 and will never live in over 55 places. I'm retired fa and I'm too busy traveling. I am living,not waiting to die.
I haven’t found anyone who is waiting to die. All of my clients who buy in active adult communities are actively living. They hike, bike, golf, swim. They can run circles around me! You might be surprised at how fun these neighborhoods can be!
The original Sun City AZ is amazing! Very low fee for 2 people on deed to enjoy everything, under $500/year. We have some righteous people who like to stir pots but there are thousands more of us who are happy and too busy enjoying life to give it a care.
I choose not to get out and participate in all the activities. I’m very happy doing my creativity projects at home. It’s nice to know I can if I want, but hanging around with others all the time is not necessary for me. I’m an introvert and being home is great!
Great info. Thank you. I’m 62 and was considering one of these communities. Let’s just say I’m over it. Whew.
I considered a 55+ community but the HOA was brutal. I wouldn't use any of the amenities, so it was a hard pass.
The best thing about 55+ is that no young people playing loud music at 2am
As a home health nurse, I visited a lot of these places. Most of the people were fairly happy there. But complex rules were usually pretty limiting. All I can say is, if you are a boomer who wants to have any noisy vices in his or her life, steer clear. If you want to haul in there on your Harley, party hardy, smoke anything; or make a joyful noise of any sort, or essentially any noise, you will not be happy. Some of these places do not allow smoking anywhere on the property. A patient of mine told me she was threatened with eviction because her caregiver lit up a cig on her way out of the complex to go the the neighborhood convenience store.
2021 quit smoking Marlboros at 54. Thanks it was a $17 per day habit.
Parents almost moved into one of these, but my family came as a 'set' and I was two years too young even though quieter than many of those elders. Years later mom decided she was glad we didn't move because the shopping was so much farther away from where we did settle.
I'm 71 and there are very few fellow senior citizens I would choose to be around. Most are boring and tired, set in their ways, full of complaints... After all, the purpose of a senior community is to isolate yourself from the rest of the world, not engage with it. I'd rather follow my interests in the larger society, and if I happen to meet fellow seniors while doing it then there's a good chance we share similar outlooks. Being around younger people helps keep me young, helps my brain stay active.
The only time I've ever moved was because of noisy neighbors, not nosy neighbors. Does a 55+ community have parties with loud thumping music?
The biggest con with living in a 55 plus community is loosing friends as they age and die. Always keep yourself out there meeting new people. One big advantage is meeting people that are in your age group and have a lot in common. It is nice too to back out of your driveway and not worry about someone's kid on a bicycle. The advantage of HOA is also bundling expenses, we get a great price for cable and internet. They also mow our lawn and keep the common areas lovely. They also prevent you from having a neighbor that trashes their yard or stores boats etc next to your house. There are activities and entertainment. The expense are minor for what you get! Absolutely love it!
Yes--lots of pros and cons. I'm at an age where I losing friends no matter where they live. Just part of life but that doesn't make it easy. Thanks so much for watching!
There's that old saying, "Wherever you go, there you are.". Your life doesn't magically change because you move to a new location. Anyone who believes the brochures and the movies is being delusional. Every community has a wide variety of people, and the brochures are often old and outdated.
You're exactly right. We all make our own happiness. Thanks for watching!
HOA boards are the worst, some people will move in with a pile of cash renovate their home to make it look absolutely beautiful, but then they expect everybody else's place to look like theirs.
And if you're a senior on Social Security God help you if these people Target you.
Those are the people that get on the board and make everybody else's life hell,
not just yours.
As long as you're following the current rules, don't let them get you down! Thanks for watching!
Excellent. Very Informative. I've been up and down trying to decide my next move.
I see much of the same at the IL/AL community I work for. Too much idle time seems to go hand-in-hand with nitpicking. And the rumor mill puts the internet to shame! Fun and factual video!
I'm six years away from being 55. Am I moving to a community that is 55+? No way, Jose!!!!! I'm a native Floridian, born and raised and I know for a fact that Arizona and Florida are quite similar with respect to retirees living in 55+ communities. It's just like Shawn said: It's expensive. You're surrounded by busy bodies, people who think they know it all, and those individuals who try their damnedest to one up everyone else. And on top of that, there is the remote possibility that none of those activities mesh with your interests. No thanks!
I've lived in a 55+ community for 7 years. Some things depend on the rules of your community. Here, minors under 18 can live with you up to 4 weeks a year, so there are lots of kids here in the summer using the pool. Neighbors look out for each other regarding health, car problems, a helping hand with groceries, etc.
Sounds like you're in a great community! There really are lots of them. Thanks for watching!
It's nice to have a clean, decent place to live. 🏘 Florida has issues with some apts having squatters, unauthorized occupants. I'd add to screen-check staff, workers. Crime & attacks can occur with felons, illegal or "undocumented" people who work labor jobs then steal items or harm staff, visitors.
My only regret after living here for 2 years is that I did not get my MOM here 20 years ago. All the activities and hobbies and crafts and sports and parties and good people she would have loved it. She passed in 2018 but my Mom would have so loved it here.
So sorry for your loss. Happy to hear you love where you live!
Will you have water in Arizona in the future? Maybe not a good place to go.
We have plenty. Don’t be fooled by the agenda based reporting. The water crisis is limited to one community that was built without city water in the first place.
I live in a 55+ community in central Florida. I love it here. There is always something going on, and the neighbors look out for each other. We do have snowbirds 6 months here, 6 months up north. Some work part time, others have different hobbies. The bonus is there are quite a few trades folk who can do anything from minor repair to building additions - all for a lot less than hiring some company. If you live in Florida, most places have an HOA.