There’s doing a product review listing specs and pretending to be fully impartial, and then there’s Scott & Jess doing it full of delightful personality bits, celebrating bias (what’s useful to you) instead of pretending it’s not there, and still providing tons of super useful context along the way. Thanks for making something that could have been a boring episode for folks who don’t need a nail gun still a lovely video to watch. I’ve yet to purchase a nail gun since moving to a 100+ year old home over a year ago but it’s finally getting to close to slapping 2x4s during reno time, thanks for making that future decision so much easier.
i've might have said this before (nobody knows). but, you are the reason why i bought a hikoki framing nailer (the old one) and a finish nailer from hikoki, super happy with the both of them. and i'm just a hobbyist who used too much money on tools i don't actually need :)
I'm not a qualified builder but I do spend the money on professional tools. My dad who was a carpenter said to me "Never buy the cheapest, never buy the most expensive - go middle of the road and you won't go wrong".
Been happy with my Milwaukee for almost 5 years. Been in the shop once under warranty at least 3 years ago and been flawless ever since. Looking forward to what Milwaukee can do in the Gen 2. Im on the Milwaukee platform so i probably wouldnt switch to Hikoki. Hikoki have knocked it out of the park though!
I bought the Hikoki NT1850 based on yours and Dean Doherty's recommendation, my only regret was not buying it sooner, going to treat myself to the 1865 angled when there's a battery redemption offer.
I’m still using the older model Hikoki gun, it’s about 4 years old now and still works a dream. Seeing as they still haven’t fixed the belt hook issue I won’t be upgrading to the new model.
As a primarily repair carpenter, I have both battery and a paslode. When I’m helping with a framing job, I’ll use the battery operated. But when repairing a roof or crawling around a crawlspace, I’ll take the paslode for the reduced weight. On ‘new’ builds, it’s easy to swing the weight around or set the framer down. But when I’m in tricky situations, which repair work gets me into a lot, that weight becomes an issue.
moving weight to the back is VERY promising. The closer that weight is to your shoulder the less fatiguing they are. Not having to go around with a hammer to finish driving in nails also helps reduce fatigue.
What? The pivot point is your wrist and hand. Moving the weight further from that pivot make it more of a strain on the forearm. Nail guns get used on angles, sideways, on outside faces with the back pointing away from you, every which way and in quick succession. Making it longer, not just weight biased back, exacerbates that even further.
Great video, i think one other consideration with the milwalkee is that, i think, its not possible to top up the air tank at home, it must go to the service agent....
I hated the rafter hook on the hikoki framer when I got it. so I bought the hook that comes on the 16g hikoki nailer and put it on the magazine side hook mount, making it so much more user friendly!
I love how hikoki is slowly getting more internet time these days Admittedly, there range is small when compared with others, but they are a good brand for the price point, and haven't failed me yet. Good review my friend
Ive been on the hikoki platform for the last 4 years and have been enjoying the benefits of the 36v power. Before i switched from my 18v makita gear to the 36v green gear i also found myself owning milwaukee framing and finishing guns which i have enjoyed. I do think i will be switching out my red guns to green ones with this update/weightloss program theyve been on.
You can get used to the weight. You can’t make a tool set a nail past its max. Love the hitachi nailer with the miner gripes with the nose piece which do show up a few times a job. Still it’s a reliable nail shooter from the brad to the finish and framer.
I switched to dewalt framing nailers years ago and it was a disaster went straight back to paslode . I'm just about to swap to the 36v hikoki platform and the nailers were on the list . Going to have to wait on this to hit the market in the uk now
I see on the Dean Doherty channel on here (power tool repair guy) he’s always fixing Dewalt guns, either the switch or the main pin because someone has put oil on it. He doesn’t seem to think much of Milwaukee either from a repair perspective.
Scotty you’re using a 2016 model Paslode in this comparison the current model has 10% more power and as you know Paslode have the big brother in the IM90 or XI model that runs at 105 joules of which no gun on the market is close. The Paslode XPro released in the US with bump fire ( developed in Aus 4 yrs ago) has 10% more power than the current XP you get in NZ. Paslode Aus are releasing a new gun 🤫 this year and I can’t reveal too much. But I like the Hikoki they are trying to make their guns better in every way and I’d choose that over any other battery nailer. I also noticed the magazine is also more centred, disappointing regarding not having a belt clip on the magazine side. Thanks for showcasing the gun considering it’s not officially released in Australia yet 👍
I also have the 36v paper framer. They do make a larger hook thats like the first version but twice as wide (my main gripe with the included hook was it being so small) was about 35$
Working in the UK , gas is often too cold to work. The Hikoki was much lighter than the Milwaukee which I actually went to buy, coupled with the 5 year warranty it was a no brainer. Been very happy with it. Been paslode and hilti nailers before, will never go back.
I bought the 16g angled 2nd fix gun, after 3 dewalt ones stopped working after a few months of working each, they were constantly back for repairs. The hikoki was expensive, but it's worth it, only things I don't like is the hook on the wrong side for right-handed, and it can act up with different branded nails
On mine all the hooks are attached with machine screws, and I've been able to switch them out. Not sure about your model but there are holes on both sides of mine so I can switch sides. Best of luck!
Cordless Milwaukee framing nailers are impressive, but mine died within 3 years and Milwaukee wanted $200 to replace the cylinder inside because its nearly impossible to refill it. I ended up picking up a pneumatic Metabo HPT and now I'm all about pneumatic tools. They are just so much lighter in comparison!
You should test the brand new Paslode . It has bump fire , I got mine on an Instagram promotion the first week of September 2024 . It is a beast, even compared to the old ones.The Dewalt is actually the lightest battery powered. I had the new version of it for three years. It was pretty good. On a sidenote, I just bought the new Metabo HPT 18 gauge last week in a deal at Lowe’s. I am super impressed with it. I did a lot of trim with it this week.
I've had the Metabo HPt (hikoki) for 2 or 3 years now. I'm a finish carpenter now so doesn't see as much use as when I did remodels. I like it just heavy, but works good. I don't keep it on my van anymore though, I have an air framer and prefer that for the few and far between times I need to add blocking etc.
Looks great, point well made. Still, you know battery platform, in the line with other tools, still a big fan of the Milwaukee. Thanks. Keep em coming.
for production framers we are still multiple generations away from replacing air, but if you just do reno's or standing pre built walls, or back framing, battery is the way to go most of the time
My mate had a 1st gen Hikoki and found it would turn off quite quickly (5mins or so), and then turning it back on was a two handed affair. The Milwaukee will stay on and ready to go even over smoko, and it’s possible to turn back on with one hand, a underrated feature if you’re up a ladder putting in a length with the other hand already busy. Recently got a 3.0 amp battery from Santa, game changer with the weight, but a kilo heavier… oooof.
I had a hitachi gas powered before i got the battery one. Must have spent more on the gas than i did on the initial purchase but still better than a hose for my situation.
The boys always ask to use my nailer when we're working with Rimu, the power is undeniable, but also the consistency. One thing that usually isn't mentioned either is the sound, they're so quiet in comparison. if you're framing up a new wall in an existing room, the sound reflection of the Paslode is like an explosion every time, even the braders are too loud.
All im looking for is a reason to get some more hikoki tools, to justify my urge to buy the triple hammer impact driver.. But this video just made me crave the paslode😅
nice,,good to see a next generation hikoki, I have the original one the noise contact upgrade will be great as old one horrible in wet weather..lack off a belt hock is poor though..I still like pasload for standing upright upside down
What did they think of not providing us double hook like the Milwaukee did. Gotta buy the belt hook from Amazon someday. I am happy with the old green nailer thought, especially after I modify it by replacing a softer nose spring on it(bought from bunnings but make the gun more dangerous though). Only complaint is power is lacking when firing 90mm nails into LVL. Looking forward for a XGT framing nailer to shoot LVL. The green one is nimble I will keep rooting for it.
It's hard to understand why it took Makita forever to make a cordless framing nailer. Then its a complete disappointment weight wise. I've had the Hikoki for 3 years. It's a lovely tool.
I’ve never enjoyed using the Paslode. It’s noisy, smelly, and has far too many points of failure. The hikoki being heavier has an (albeit small) effect on why it actually sinks the nails
I have a pasload famer, and I must say I have never had this problem with it not nailing to depth, on hardwood to hardwood (1900s house in Australia) I have the opposite, the battery only tool are good when you battery are new and fully charged but over time battery get old and they just don't seem to work as well, but you are right about it is cheaper without the gas, i have a makita brad nail gun and the thing is a peace of crap. I switch back to the air tool after a week, i should have got my money back lol
To add to this, I never understand the band loyalty that people show, i always go for the tool that is going to save me the most time and last, in most cases you kind stuck with the colour you have unless you wont more charges and battery's. I also think that's a good part of your video, I uses my tools pretty hard, I also use parts for tools am hammers and other things. and i brake them probably to often. i don't clean them as often I pick them up and use them until there is a problem. I mean its a tool at the end of the day its a tool that helps you do the job, the old saying that time is money and it is very true, labour is the most expansive part of the job and can vary the most. i also find it funny that people are to worried about braking there tools and teat them like a Faberge eggs. i also try not getting lock into a brands ecosystem when I can , when I was buying a coil gun i didn't go for the battery/Gas pasload because i could only use pasload nails in it, witch stopped my from finding cheaper nails or using nails from other brands and locked me into buying pasload nails only.
In defense of a compressor/Pneumatic gun is that I can put 2 maybe 3 clips of nails in, when assembling a stick-cut frame this is a game changer, but I still hate the hose, cheers Scott.
One issue I had with the Hikoki is the size, more so than the weight. When you're working in a confined space it's difficult to find a firing angle, especially with older version's smaller nose.
Interesting two questions how does it fit in between 16 in studs. If i recall the old hikoki fit better than the milwaukee. But this one seems longer. So wonder if it affected that. Two on the old hikoki i recall you had great success with the rimu. I might be wrong, but i think thats why you preferred it vs the pas lode... i wonder if you done service to add more air back in all these years too? If not i wonder if you did if it will do well on the rimu
Thanks for the review! I'd been aware of the new makita finally showing up, but had already invested in all the metabo hpt (aka hikoki). Nice to know they've improved on ye old framer. Have you any interest in the new hikoki siding/roofing nailer? I am hoping it will work well for vinyl windows. My fellow crew is invested in old hitachi pneumatic nailers. I have never thought they were lighter or more maneuverable than the battery framer. I also think using the bigger battery to add more weight helps with kickback fatigue. I believe ye old hikoki has a reset function as well - when the lights start flashing oddly I mashed and held two buttons at once until the light show stopped. Can anyone confirm this?
Scott, get to the important info, what feels best in the hand IE balanced, sometimes the weight isn't noticed if balanced correctly. What feels the best to use. I prefer EAG gear because they have found a way to make there gear just feel right in the hand.
I have the milwaukee m18 framer and it's been a real delight, though as a finish carpenter it's not a ceaseless day in day out tool for me. I do like the chance to use my pneumatic Hitachi framing nailer, if good beefy air supply is available (ie a compressor bigger than mine). It's from the early 2000's I believe, at least a generation older than the current ones, "the last good ones" I hear people saying. I was curious how the paslodes compared to cordless framers in terms of power, I will likely skip trying one given this comparison. Thanks!
I’m still with good old paslode and would love to switch to a battery only gun but I just can’t have that much weight. I’m a makita user as well but I think they’ve gone crazy with the weight of that one
I don't have a framing nailer but I do have an 18 gauge brad nailer (Bostitch pneumatic) which I have used on many projects, mostly cabinets. I would say that if you have a compressor on site/workshop, pneumatic would be a no brainer. Power and cycle time can't be matched by gas or battery nailers. Pneumatic nailers seem to be dominant in the US where timber construction is the norm.
It kind of depends on what you are doing. I have both and use both on the jobsite. I am obviously not going to frame all the walls with a battery nailer, but I sure as he'll am going to use one in the trusses so my hose doesn't get caught on everything.
I'm not a builder or framer, just diy with every timber you can imagine judging from what I've seen here I won't be replacing my old milwaukee any time soon side note, I got it second hand for half retail with 18 months use I've put maybe 10,000 nails through it and I've never had a single issue apart from a couple of dry fires when the battery is low the best part is after 18 months of it sitting in the shed I charged the battery and used it for a full day with no issue along side of my mate that has a paslode that was working fine before he went on holiday for 2 weeks then started acting up on every shot when he got back by the end of the day he asked if he could borrow my milwaukee while his paslode gets serviced ( after sevice is was just as bad so be got a new milwaukee) just my 2 cents..
Also you failed to mention paslodes are far more tempremental and break down more often. On site all the framers would be trying to find me to use my gun (the what was hitachi version)as it was the only one working
I’m a fabricator, so I guess we share a few common tools with chippies, and for me it’s all about the balance of a tool, heavy or not. If it’s not balanced feeling, I won’t use it. Especially hammers.
I am so happy i saw this. I have all passlode guns and the fuel just keeps getting more and more expensive. Also, as i get older, the exhaust from the passlodes bothers me more and more. Also the nails are stupid expensive. And it seems like there aren't any generic brands that work in passlode framing guns. And now with orange fuck nuts in office shooting tarrifs all over the place, prices are going to skyrocket. Are there generic nails for the other brands? Honestly i have never taken time to look. My framer and 16 ga trim gun are fine, but my 20 plus year old 18 ga pin gun is on its last legs and i think battery only will be the way to go based on this. Thanks gor the demo.
What about the spring of the tip? That’s was what annoyed me the most of the old one. Specially when you’re hanging while doing trusses. You’ll need to push it so hard just for it to shoot. And I swear to god that gave me a tennis elbow.
As a landscaper on the kapiti coast, our paslode usually doesn't work great as is sucks sand through the fan and misfire a lot. The Milwaukie might be heavier, but never had problem with it.
There’s doing a product review listing specs and pretending to be fully impartial, and then there’s Scott & Jess doing it full of delightful personality bits, celebrating bias (what’s useful to you) instead of pretending it’s not there, and still providing tons of super useful context along the way.
Thanks for making something that could have been a boring episode for folks who don’t need a nail gun still a lovely video to watch.
I’ve yet to purchase a nail gun since moving to a 100+ year old home over a year ago but it’s finally getting to close to slapping 2x4s during reno time, thanks for making that future decision so much easier.
i've might have said this before (nobody knows). but, you are the reason why i bought a hikoki framing nailer (the old one) and a finish nailer from hikoki, super happy with the both of them. and i'm just a hobbyist who used too much money on tools i don't actually need :)
I'm not convinced there's such a thing as a tool you don't need. There are only tools you haven't used yet. 😉
You don't need to justify buying tools - if you feel you might need it get it. The first time you use it on a job it will pay for itself.
I'm not a qualified builder but I do spend the money on professional tools. My dad who was a carpenter said to me "Never buy the cheapest, never buy the most expensive - go middle of the road and you won't go wrong".
Same here, this thing has been awesome
Been happy with my Milwaukee for almost 5 years. Been in the shop once under warranty at least 3 years ago and been flawless ever since. Looking forward to what Milwaukee can do in the Gen 2. Im on the Milwaukee platform so i probably wouldnt switch to Hikoki. Hikoki have knocked it out of the park though!
I just got one. The finishers too. They're incredible. I genuinely have already put my orange nailers in my storage container. 💚💚💚
Great comparisons Scott… lovely garden too Jess! ⚒️🪚🌺🌻😎
I bought the Hikoki NT1850 based on yours and Dean Doherty's recommendation, my only regret was not buying it sooner, going to treat myself to the 1865 angled when there's a battery redemption offer.
If it usable and Dean can fix it, it is a good tool 👍🏻
Your videos are so chilling. Definetly in New Zealand people live different lives
Excited to see the Makita review!! Cheers Scott!
I’m still using the older model Hikoki gun, it’s about 4 years old now and still works a dream. Seeing as they still haven’t fixed the belt hook issue I won’t be upgrading to the new model.
As a primarily repair carpenter, I have both battery and a paslode. When I’m helping with a framing job, I’ll use the battery operated. But when repairing a roof or crawling around a crawlspace, I’ll take the paslode for the reduced weight.
On ‘new’ builds, it’s easy to swing the weight around or set the framer down. But when I’m in tricky situations, which repair work gets me into a lot, that weight becomes an issue.
Great video Scott can't wait to try this one in Canada! I hope they give you the new finish nailers to try out too
I've used the new finish nailers and they are excellent! I really hope Scott does a video on them
Has anyone used the 22g brad nailer? Not available in Australia 🙄 so am considering importing one from Japan.
@@kimjohnston417 you mean 23ga pin nailer? I don't think 22ga brads exist
I haven't used it
@ thanks - can’t even find it listed in Australia…
Tell Jess- the yard looks lovely!
this episode hits the nails on the heads.
That was awful but if it makes an impact, more power to you.
Garden is looking great 😅
moving weight to the back is VERY promising. The closer that weight is to your shoulder the less fatiguing they are. Not having to go around with a hammer to finish driving in nails also helps reduce fatigue.
What? The pivot point is your wrist and hand. Moving the weight further from that pivot make it more of a strain on the forearm. Nail guns get used on angles, sideways, on outside faces with the back pointing away from you, every which way and in quick succession. Making it longer, not just weight biased back, exacerbates that even further.
Great video, i think one other consideration with the milwalkee is that, i think, its not possible to top up the air tank at home, it must go to the service agent....
I'm a Bosch user, but regarding nail guns I only own Hikoki. I think it's the best in quality/price.
I'm doing the exact same thing as you!
Bosch blue for most tools, now Hikoki for nailers. Couldn't be happier!
Bwwwaaahahaaa, and he's me thinking I was the only one, G'day brothers!
I hated the rafter hook on the hikoki framer when I got it. so I bought the hook that comes on the 16g hikoki nailer and put it on the magazine side hook mount, making it so much more user friendly!
Thank you! I’m going to buy one now. 😂
Great video! This nailer has taken battery guns to the next level!
Well. That’s it then! I’ll just have to get one. It has recoil!! Thanks, Jess!
Thanks!
I love how hikoki is slowly getting more internet time these days
Admittedly, there range is small when compared with others, but they are a good brand for the price point, and haven't failed me yet.
Good review my friend
I can relate to Jess with those tools. I’d love to try them but I don’t build enough to justify owning.
Ive been on the hikoki platform for the last 4 years and have been enjoying the benefits of the 36v power. Before i switched from my 18v makita gear to the 36v green gear i also found myself owning milwaukee framing and finishing guns which i have enjoyed. I do think i will be switching out my red guns to green ones with this update/weightloss program theyve been on.
You can get used to the weight. You can’t make a tool set a nail past its max. Love the hitachi nailer with the miner gripes with the nose piece which do show up a few times a job. Still it’s a reliable nail shooter from the brad to the finish and framer.
I switched to dewalt framing nailers years ago and it was a disaster went straight back to paslode . I'm just about to swap to the 36v hikoki platform and the nailers were on the list . Going to have to wait on this to hit the market in the uk now
I see on the Dean Doherty channel on here (power tool repair guy) he’s always fixing Dewalt guns, either the switch or the main pin because someone has put oil on it. He doesn’t seem to think much of Milwaukee either from a repair perspective.
Nice review, I have the hikoki connector nailer and love it to bits.
Scotty you’re using a 2016 model Paslode in this comparison the current model has 10% more power and as you know Paslode have the big brother in the IM90 or XI model that runs at 105 joules of which no gun on the market is close. The Paslode XPro released in the US with bump fire ( developed in Aus 4 yrs ago) has 10% more power than the current XP you get in NZ. Paslode Aus are releasing a new gun 🤫 this year and I can’t reveal too much. But I like the Hikoki they are trying to make their guns better in every way and I’d choose that over any other battery nailer. I also noticed the magazine is also more centred, disappointing regarding not having a belt clip on the magazine side. Thanks for showcasing the gun considering it’s not officially released in Australia yet 👍
Obsolete tech
I also have the 36v paper framer. They do make a larger hook thats like the first version but twice as wide (my main gripe with the included hook was it being so small) was about 35$
Working in the UK , gas is often too cold to work. The Hikoki was much lighter than the Milwaukee which I actually went to buy, coupled with the 5 year warranty it was a no brainer. Been very happy with it. Been paslode and hilti nailers before, will never go back.
I like how streamlined it looks now, too. I really hope the Metabo HPT-badged one doesn't follow too far behind because I really want it.
Got the extension mag in the usa thats awesome they brought a new one
Great video mate! Nailed it👍
I bought the 16g angled 2nd fix gun, after 3 dewalt ones stopped working after a few months of working each, they were constantly back for repairs. The hikoki was expensive, but it's worth it, only things I don't like is the hook on the wrong side for right-handed, and it can act up with different branded nails
On mine all the hooks are attached with machine screws, and I've been able to switch them out. Not sure about your model but there are holes on both sides of mine so I can switch sides. Best of luck!
Your parter mate is hilarious at the b roll. I am in the trades. Would love for you to do a trim gun review of the new Bosch line. Looks VERY bulky
Very informative video. Thank you!
Cordless Milwaukee framing nailers are impressive, but mine died within 3 years and Milwaukee wanted $200 to replace the cylinder inside because its nearly impossible to refill it. I ended up picking up a pneumatic Metabo HPT and now I'm all about pneumatic tools. They are just so much lighter in comparison!
anything that can stick a nail in heart rimu is a winner to me.
You should test the brand new Paslode . It has bump fire , I got mine on an Instagram promotion the first week of September 2024 . It is a beast, even compared to the old ones.The Dewalt is actually the lightest battery powered. I had the new version of it for three years. It was pretty good. On a sidenote, I just bought the new Metabo HPT 18 gauge last week in a deal at Lowe’s. I am super impressed with it. I did a lot of trim with it this week.
He can't get a bump fire nailer in New Zealand.
@@luke8952 yeah I remember now partway through him saying that. That’s a bummer. I would be mad. 😅😂🤣
I've had the Metabo HPt (hikoki) for 2 or 3 years now. I'm a finish carpenter now so doesn't see as much use as when I did remodels. I like it just heavy, but works good. I don't keep it on my van anymore though, I have an air framer and prefer that for the few and far between times I need to add blocking etc.
Looks great, point well made. Still, you know battery platform, in the line with other tools, still a big fan of the Milwaukee.
Thanks. Keep em coming.
Rory here saying hi too u jess a Scott Brown Carpentry awesome job man ‘’’’’’ 😊😊😊😊
This gun was worth the weight!
Haha the Kiwi making lord of the rings references.. if only Tolkien knew that he's an honorary Kiwi now.
for production framers we are still multiple generations away from replacing air, but if you just do reno's or standing pre built walls, or back framing, battery is the way to go most of the time
My mate had a 1st gen Hikoki and found it would turn off quite quickly (5mins or so), and then turning it back on was a two handed affair. The Milwaukee will stay on and ready to go even over smoko, and it’s possible to turn back on with one hand, a underrated feature if you’re up a ladder putting in a length with the other hand already busy. Recently got a 3.0 amp battery from Santa, game changer with the weight, but a kilo heavier… oooof.
Thanks Scott great video . Good perspective.
Thanks Jess for the loan of your scales
I had a hitachi gas powered before i got the battery one. Must have spent more on the gas than i did on the initial purchase but still better than a hose for my situation.
Hi Scott! Could you maybe talk about hearing protection? Different kinds/brands? Would be interesting!
We call our original battery powered hitachi framer The Screaming Eagle. We loved to hear it so much we got rid of the noisy compressors.
The boys always ask to use my nailer when we're working with Rimu, the power is undeniable, but also the consistency. One thing that usually isn't mentioned either is the sound, they're so quiet in comparison. if you're framing up a new wall in an existing room, the sound reflection of the Paslode is like an explosion every time, even the braders are too loud.
All im looking for is a reason to get some more hikoki tools, to justify my urge to buy the triple hammer impact driver.. But this video just made me crave the paslode😅
Got pumped when I saw a new video drop 😂
Its like a good kind of New Zealand drug.. Scott Brown Episodes leaves me coming back for more 😅
If you said that in Scotland it would have a completely different meaning...
nice,,good to see a next generation hikoki, I have the original one the noise contact upgrade will be great as old one horrible in wet weather..lack off a belt hock is poor though..I still like pasload for standing upright upside down
my belt hook was rattling around in the bottom of my box. I nearly chucked it in the recycle.🤙
Great I'm buying it when it's available in Canada
What did they think of not providing us double hook like the Milwaukee did. Gotta buy the belt hook from Amazon someday. I am happy with the old green nailer thought, especially after I modify it by replacing a softer nose spring on it(bought from bunnings but make the gun more dangerous though). Only complaint is power is lacking when firing 90mm nails into LVL. Looking forward for a XGT framing nailer to shoot LVL. The green one is nimble I will keep rooting for it.
Have you used or tried the Dewalt nail gun with the flyweight? Is an interesting change again from those shown in your video.
10:40 when was the air topped up on your old Hiloki? Just cause it could be the brand-new effect with the new one... 🤷♂️
It's hard to understand why it took Makita forever to make a cordless framing nailer. Then its a complete disappointment weight wise. I've had the Hikoki for 3 years. It's a lovely tool.
I remember when you got that big, big heavy air charged nail gun. Do you ever use it or do you even still have it?
I’ve never enjoyed using the Paslode. It’s noisy, smelly, and has far too many points of failure. The hikoki being heavier has an (albeit small) effect on why it actually sinks the nails
Jess always brings it.
The Milwaukee with the extended capacity magazine is my go to nail gun, nothing else fits where it fits.
Love the paslode hanging down low, trollololol :-D
Yea another awesome vids Scott Brown Carpentry vids for my DIY carpentry projects weekend must watching 😊😊😊😊😊
I have a pasload famer, and I must say I have never had this problem with it not nailing to depth, on hardwood to hardwood (1900s house in Australia) I have the opposite, the battery only tool are good when you battery are new and fully charged but over time battery get old and they just don't seem to work as well, but you are right about it is cheaper without the gas, i have a makita brad nail gun and the thing is a peace of crap. I switch back to the air tool after a week, i should have got my money back lol
To add to this, I never understand the band loyalty that people show, i always go for the tool that is going to save me the most time and last, in most cases you kind stuck with the colour you have unless you wont more charges and battery's. I also think that's a good part of your video, I uses my tools pretty hard, I also use parts for tools am hammers and other things. and i brake them probably to often. i don't clean them as often I pick them up and use them until there is a problem. I mean its a tool at the end of the day its a tool that helps you do the job, the old saying that time is money and it is very true, labour is the most expansive part of the job and can vary the most. i also find it funny that people are to worried about braking there tools and teat them like a Faberge eggs. i also try not getting lock into a brands ecosystem when I can , when I was buying a coil gun i didn't go for the battery/Gas pasload because i could only use pasload nails in it, witch stopped my from finding cheaper nails or using nails from other brands and locked me into buying pasload nails only.
In defense of a compressor/Pneumatic gun is that I can put 2 maybe 3 clips of nails in, when assembling a stick-cut frame this is a game changer, but I still hate the hose, cheers Scott.
You can put 2 sticks of nails in the Milwaukee with the extension.
One issue I had with the Hikoki is the size, more so than the weight. When you're working in a confined space it's difficult to find a firing angle, especially with older version's smaller nose.
I use paslodes brand new framing nailer in the uk south wales and it can fire into anything thrown at it
Interesting two questions how does it fit in between 16 in studs. If i recall the old hikoki fit better than the milwaukee. But this one seems longer. So wonder if it affected that. Two on the old hikoki i recall you had great success with the rimu. I might be wrong, but i think thats why you preferred it vs the pas lode... i wonder if you done service to add more air back in all these years too? If not i wonder if you did if it will do well on the rimu
I wonder how the new Ryobi framing nailer compares, for us DIYers.
Thanks for the review! I'd been aware of the new makita finally showing up, but had already invested in all the metabo hpt (aka hikoki). Nice to know they've improved on ye old framer. Have you any interest in the new hikoki siding/roofing nailer? I am hoping it will work well for vinyl windows.
My fellow crew is invested in old hitachi pneumatic nailers. I have never thought they were lighter or more maneuverable than the battery framer. I also think using the bigger battery to add more weight helps with kickback fatigue.
I believe ye old hikoki has a reset function as well - when the lights start flashing oddly I mashed and held two buttons at once until the light show stopped. Can anyone confirm this?
Scott, get to the important info, what feels best in the hand IE balanced, sometimes the weight isn't noticed if balanced correctly. What feels the best to use. I prefer EAG gear because they have found a way to make there gear just feel right in the hand.
All 3 of our guys use Hikoki guns. No gas is a massive upside.
I have the milwaukee m18 framer and it's been a real delight, though as a finish carpenter it's not a ceaseless day in day out tool for me. I do like the chance to use my pneumatic Hitachi framing nailer, if good beefy air supply is available (ie a compressor bigger than mine).
It's from the early 2000's I believe, at least a generation older than the current ones, "the last good ones" I hear people saying. I was curious how the paslodes compared to cordless framers in terms of power, I will likely skip trying one given this comparison. Thanks!
I’m still with good old paslode and would love to switch to a battery only gun but I just can’t have that much weight. I’m a makita user as well but I think they’ve gone crazy with the weight of that one
I don't have a framing nailer but I do have an 18 gauge brad nailer (Bostitch pneumatic) which I have used on many projects, mostly cabinets. I would say that if you have a compressor on site/workshop, pneumatic would be a no brainer. Power and cycle time can't be matched by gas or battery nailers. Pneumatic nailers seem to be dominant in the US where timber construction is the norm.
It kind of depends on what you are doing. I have both and use both on the jobsite. I am obviously not going to frame all the walls with a battery nailer, but I sure as he'll am going to use one in the trusses so my hose doesn't get caught on everything.
Great review
Nice piece of kit!
You forgot to add the weight of the hammer you need to carry, with the paslode to finish hammering in the nails.
You've gotta review the new Ryobi framing nailer to match your Ryobi track saw video 🤣
Back yard looks great!
Can’t wait for the Makita 🫣
I'm not a builder or framer, just diy with every timber you can imagine
judging from what I've seen here I won't be replacing my old milwaukee any time soon
side note, I got it second hand for half retail with 18 months use
I've put maybe 10,000 nails through it and I've never had a single issue apart from a couple of dry fires when the battery is low
the best part is after 18 months of it sitting in the shed I charged the battery and used it for a full day with no issue along side of my mate that has a paslode that was working fine before he went on holiday for 2 weeks then started acting up on every shot when he got back
by the end of the day he asked if he could borrow my milwaukee while his paslode gets serviced ( after sevice is was just as bad so be got a new milwaukee)
just my 2 cents..
Also you failed to mention paslodes are far more tempremental and break down more often. On site all the framers would be trying to find me to use my gun (the what was hitachi version)as it was the only one working
I know you were trying to not be to too excited when the makita made quick work of that native timber.
I spotted it in your last video!
Try the new Paslode and the new DEWALT framers, I’d like to hear your thoughts on them. Both amped up the power.
being in construction over 20 years, heavy tools have never bothered me. if the heavier one has more umph than i'll grab the heavy one
I’m a fabricator, so I guess we share a few common tools with chippies, and for me it’s all about the balance of a tool, heavy or not.
If it’s not balanced feeling, I won’t use it. Especially hammers.
I am so happy i saw this. I have all passlode guns and the fuel just keeps getting more and more expensive. Also, as i get older, the exhaust from the passlodes bothers me more and more. Also the nails are stupid expensive. And it seems like there aren't any generic brands that work in passlode framing guns. And now with orange fuck nuts in office shooting tarrifs all over the place, prices are going to skyrocket. Are there generic nails for the other brands? Honestly i have never taken time to look. My framer and 16 ga trim gun are fine, but my 20 plus year old 18 ga pin gun is on its last legs and i think battery only will be the way to go based on this. Thanks gor the demo.
Jess really nailed it.😂😂😂
She really drove home the point.
Thanks mate sitting in hospital in Boston Massachusetts
If it was the same weight as paslode I’d switch for sure. The weight is a big factor for most I reckon
As for Paslode, maybe mine leaked but seemed like it was always out of gas.
I dislike the makita because they are not making enough tools for the 40v platform, they push you to get the 18v. Nice review.
What about the spring of the tip? That’s was what annoyed me the most of the old one. Specially when you’re hanging while doing trusses. You’ll need to push it so hard just for it to shoot. And I swear to god that gave me a tennis elbow.
As a landscaper on the kapiti coast, our paslode usually doesn't work great as is sucks sand through the fan and misfire a lot. The Milwaukie might be heavier, but never had problem with it.
Used the Hikoki for a year then went back to paslode try out the new ones!
Seems all 3 options are fine if you want to stick to 1 battery system
Try a new paslode. Plenty of power, lighter and by far the best tip