awesome, i've been playing totemic in raid because it just felt a lot easier to manage the rotation. the burst you can get at the beginning of a fight with bloodlust, PI, and some RNG luck on sundering resets is SO satisfying
yo zorthar i'm really wondering how to open in raid ? Do we have to prepare ourself every time or we just go randomly without any maelstrom ? And do we have to wait until we have a proc before using cds or instantly use anyway ?
This totemic version is really unhealthy IMO. It should revolve around the pwave+hot hand package and not be this gimmicky physical sundering "abuse" playstyle. Just my opinion. Ascendance being good with both trees is a bit boring
I tried using totemic last night and figured because of the hero talents I needed to use elementalist. I obviously was wrong lol. Went back to stormbringer/tempest. Gonna give it another go next time I'm on
Yesterday I tried this build in a couple of M+ and later at Ovi'nax Mythic. The damage delivery feels always steady and easy to maintain, however having to manage the totem is a little annoying, especially if there is a lot of movement during the fights; I'm not having big issues, the CDs are super fair, but it's just one more thing to look at and let's be honest: enha shams already have a lot of things to think about in the rotation :') Moreover, the fact that lava lash extra sundering doesn't proc earthsurge/windfury is super sad. It could have made the build feel a little more dynamic/rewarding since the proc of extra Sundering is meh.
Thx a lot. Do you consider making raid guide for SB also? I am struggling with boss damage on raids and currently gathering guides/advices what to fix :)
i call you the professor of enhance. i started an alt and learned totemic from this video. damn it is so fun and smooth even my haste is only 8700 at ilv606. i appreciate the clear and point to point explanation. very educational! also i have one question that if i wanna burst in AOE, do i need to cast chain lighting right before ascendence so wind strike will always pull out chain lighting? thanks!
thanks for the guide! i guess the nerf to spenders was already calculated in your totemic vs stormbringer suggestions? Unfortunate, i was really hoping for totemic to pull ahead because i was up for palaying something new 😅
when its the best time to use skardyn's grace? in your gear guide you said not to macro it with ascendance for strombringer. would it be best to use the trinket after a totem drop?`
yeah but nobody seems to know the answer to the question. the tooltip says 40 yards, ifyoure 40 yards from your totem, will the fissures still hit. if so, if youre having problems with tot projection at 40 yards you have a problem
Because that one FS on one target does basically nothing - you are not spreading it with LL. If you are more than 2 globals away from a group, you can use it, but if you are close, just go for totem
Why would you want to waste a few globals during ascendance to proc legacy, instead of procing legacy before entering ascendance ? Surely it's a lot better to FS > Totem > Crash (to activate WF in Single Target) > Stormstrike once or twice to reach 10 MS > LB for both Legacy and Air totem buff and then use Ascendance > Immediately Sunder after > DW > WS into Sunder procs, this gives us a few extra globals during ascendance to proc extra sunders
Thanks for the guide! There are 2 things i dont like totemic. First is if the boss moves out of the totems range you lose huge.damage, feels bad. Second is that most of your damage comes from an inanimate totem...thats not fun, you arent powerful this little wood thing is powerful 😅
It helps to have totemic projection in that case. Gotta be smart with its cd and sometimes you just can't help it if boss moves too much but it helps in the long run 😅
@@shardnes yes that makes sense but it also sounds annoying af. Oh great they moved again and my totemic projection is on CD, guess I won't be doing damage, going back to stormbringer
maybe I have problems in the head but totemic is waaay more fun (and doing more dps) than stormbringer lmao. They shuld buff it a bit more and its a nobrainer pick. edit: cant wait for next week's bluepost saying "totemic became too popular since last week's nerfs so we bring it to other classes" and nerf it xd
Yo, I made this build before running out of gametime, and self imposed play stop for now, asking how it works out in new expansion, it's just the right part and without hero talents, curious how it works in current game, it is a 5 maelstorm build, so you have plenty more lightning casts, but also fully physical aswell, so it relies on witch buff and at least 3 windfurry buffs to unleash more windfurry attacks (crash lightning, stormstrike and maybe sundering), Dre has higher proc chance with this one: CcQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYmZ2wMzMMzMzgtZGLz2MAAAAAAAAAAWAAAEAgAAABAAAAQAAAAwA Had tons of fun making this build, also I think Witch is bugged, because it only increases 20% damage instead of 25%, reported it, I don't know if they fixed it. (Interested in your point of view)
Totemic projection needs to be changed into having no CD at all for certain totems in pve. I get it for pvp reasons, but for pve.. Man just let us move the totems whenever we want. I tried a few keys as totemic and i enjoyed it more then stormbringer tbh.. But pug tanks thinks they are in mdi and move every 5 seconds. so its just a total disaster.
totemic is SO unhealthy jesus. "dont spec this, useless, dont click this, bad, we dont want this, its shit" "HAMMER STORMSTRIKE; THIS GOOD" (I know stormbringer aint much better, but alteast we spread flame shocks :( 10minutes dummy fight, 3 sundering procs, deleted the talent loadout
Stormbringer is leaps and bounds better than this lol. Both in ease of use and damage. I tried using totemic last night and I do not understand how a normal person can make this work
I would make some changes to this build. Frost Shock, Hailstorm, Swirling Mailstorm, Primordial Wave to be taken instead of Voltaic Blaze, Tempest Strikes and Stormfury and Elemental Assault. It won't change the gameplay by much, but has bigger dmg output and better single target. This is because: 1. frost shock hits like a truck in 6 targets (hits about 1-1.3 mil crits per mob in 614 ilvl gear with empower from Ice Strike and Frost Witch) + returns mailstrom weapon. 2. you don't need voltaic blaze, the first flame shock cast with the totem down will spread it to 6 targets + you also have Molten assault to use in case. (it also deals nature dmg and is super rng). 3. when you drop totem + primordial , you alreay have 6 targets ready for a giga LB then you have frost witch ready in 2 casts and a big burst that also activates Totemic Rebound. 4. Frost shock is empowered then it returns 2 mailstrom weapon and hits 5 targets in a single spell (more than Voltaic Blaze would do) and it is ready once every 6 seconds as empower. 5. I would switch tempest strikes to Ice Strike (it returns mailstrom weapon and also hits aoe when used after Crash Lightning). It would be smth like : use 10 mailstrom to get Frost Witch -> Crash Lightning + Ice Strike then a Frost Shock and immediately LB or CL. Tempest strikes is about 2-3 % of the overall which is not the best and deal nature dmg which is not empowered. Overall my frost shocks are 2 or 3 in top damage after the totem ofc. This is at least what I got to manage with my tests :D Try it and if it helps you then I'm glad :D CcQAYp+JUk5Lea12OyacsLNThMzMzCmZGz2MzMYMzYbMDAAAAAAAAAgNYBLLzYmZZTz22wMampBbAYWmYwYZmxYMmZmFjFzMNLsMWGzMAAjB
You're not understanding how to use voltaic blaze with totemic. You flame shock before dropping totem, then wait for voltaic blaze proc and it hits way harder than frost. I've had 2 mill+ voltaic blazes.
Why are people aggresive in chat lol. I didn't say i.m better, never implied. I know how to use voltaic, but that is rng , u can use one empowered once every 24 sec. Frost shock empowered hits 1.3-1.5 mil once every 10 sec on 5 mobs...and also i have 614 ilvl. Don.t jump on the throat for a simple guide i left. Cheers
@@ganxtaful lol no one was aggressive. I'm testing your build, I found a big problem with managing ascendance + frost shock + ice time. During ascendance I was doing the tests, I did more damage just by spamming windstrike, so it's a very large window without using frostshock + ice. I tried to use it in the middle of ascendance, I felt like I lost damage.
Literally the best guide maker. Lays all the important information out for you very fast and easy to understand.
If you can get past the monotone.
@@adammm2847 thats the best part
we are so lucky to have you!!!
Fantastic guide just need to include a demonstration in your videos it helps a ton.
awesome, i've been playing totemic in raid because it just felt a lot easier to manage the rotation. the burst you can get at the beginning of a fight with bloodlust, PI, and some RNG luck on sundering resets is SO satisfying
yo zorthar i'm really wondering how to open in raid ? Do we have to prepare ourself every time or we just go randomly without any maelstrom ? And do we have to wait until we have a proc before using cds or instantly use anyway ?
Blizz desperately needs to do something about LL and it's talents. Neither hero spec wants to use it and it's a fucking crime.
This totemic version is really unhealthy IMO. It should revolve around the pwave+hot hand package and not be this gimmicky physical sundering "abuse" playstyle. Just my opinion. Ascendance being good with both trees is a bit boring
Thanks for the overview
I tried using totemic last night and figured because of the hero talents I needed to use elementalist. I obviously was wrong lol. Went back to stormbringer/tempest. Gonna give it another go next time I'm on
Yesterday I tried this build in a couple of M+ and later at Ovi'nax Mythic. The damage delivery feels always steady and easy to maintain, however having to manage the totem is a little annoying, especially if there is a lot of movement during the fights; I'm not having big issues, the CDs are super fair, but it's just one more thing to look at and let's be honest: enha shams already have a lot of things to think about in the rotation :')
Moreover, the fact that lava lash extra sundering doesn't proc earthsurge/windfury is super sad. It could have made the build feel a little more dynamic/rewarding since the proc of extra Sundering is meh.
Hi zorthy were for sure getting a totemic inspired tier set for next season
Thx a lot. Do you consider making raid guide for SB also? I am struggling with boss damage on raids and currently gathering guides/advices what to fix :)
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#showtooltip Surging Totem
/cast [@cursor] Surging Totem
#showtooltip Totemic Projection
/cast [@cursor] Totemic Projection
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i call you the professor of enhance. i started an alt and learned totemic from this video. damn it is so fun and smooth even my haste is only 8700 at ilv606. i appreciate the clear and point to point explanation. very educational! also i have one question that if i wanna burst in AOE, do i need to cast chain lighting right before ascendence so wind strike will always pull out chain lighting? thanks!
Great guide man, loving totemic a lot! Do you have a viable M+ Totemic spec?
this guide covers m+ the playstyle and talents are the same
They overcooked with a lot of hero talents. Crazy how many oversights there are with Lava Lash in this hero tree.
thanks for the guide!
i guess the nerf to spenders was already calculated in your totemic vs stormbringer suggestions? Unfortunate, i was really hoping for totemic to pull ahead because i was up for palaying something new 😅
Amazing guide
My projection is in a cast sequence with surging totem so I just reactivate it to move it.
thank you so much
when its the best time to use skardyn's grace? in your gear guide you said not to macro it with ascendance for strombringer. would it be best to use the trinket after a totem drop?`
Why not go Ice Strike instead of LL in ST? Just to have a little extra good emergency maelstrom
I tried totemic in a few keys and it feels sooooo inconsistent. Like sometimes u get resets and obliterate everything and sometimes it just feels shit
You can take 2h ??
Do you think Ele will be better in m+ after the nerf?
yeah but nobody seems to know the answer to the question. the tooltip says 40 yards, ifyoure 40 yards from your totem, will the fissures still hit. if so, if youre having problems with tot projection at 40 yards you have a problem
what is this for raid or mythic?
Bro popped AG for my parses
any weakaura for this yet?
Again, I am feeling like I need a Masters/PhD to understand this spec
You can go with a Macro that places the totem on yourself.
Probably more reliable than mouse
Why are we not doing FS on AOE Opener?
Because that one FS on one target does basically nothing - you are not spreading it with LL. If you are more than 2 globals away from a group, you can use it, but if you are close, just go for totem
Ty!
totemic need some help to increase it and make it better in m+. Probably a passiv totem and not an activ would be better.
Why would you want to waste a few globals during ascendance to proc legacy, instead of procing legacy before entering ascendance ? Surely it's a lot better to FS > Totem > Crash (to activate WF in Single Target) > Stormstrike once or twice to reach 10 MS > LB for both Legacy and Air totem buff and then use Ascendance > Immediately Sunder after > DW > WS into Sunder procs, this gives us a few extra globals during ascendance to proc extra sunders
TY! :D
So stormbringer is still best to go for in m+?
for sure, but totemic is good too.
zorthax
Thanks for the guide! There are 2 things i dont like totemic. First is if the boss moves out of the totems range you lose huge.damage, feels bad. Second is that most of your damage comes from an inanimate totem...thats not fun, you arent powerful this little wood thing is powerful 😅
Haha yes I agree
It helps to have totemic projection in that case. Gotta be smart with its cd and sometimes you just can't help it if boss moves too much but it helps in the long run 😅
@@shardnes yes that makes sense but it also sounds annoying af. Oh great they moved again and my totemic projection is on CD, guess I won't be doing damage, going back to stormbringer
anyone who has a weakaura that tracks frost witch buff? i cant find one on wago
Damn I needed this, like water to the etiopian
I simulate dps and Totemic is better than Storm in this moment
So what I’m hearing is if you go in to +2s to carry friends and you’re like 620+ geared play totemic to one shot everything? 😆 😆
maybe I have problems in the head but totemic is waaay more fun (and doing more dps) than stormbringer lmao. They shuld buff it a bit more and its a nobrainer pick.
edit: cant wait for next week's bluepost saying "totemic became too popular since last week's nerfs so we bring it to other classes" and nerf it xd
Yo, I made this build before running out of gametime, and self imposed play stop for now, asking how it works out in new expansion, it's just the right part and without hero talents, curious how it works in current game, it is a 5 maelstorm build, so you have plenty more lightning casts, but also fully physical aswell, so it relies on witch buff and at least 3 windfurry buffs to unleash more windfurry attacks (crash lightning, stormstrike and maybe sundering), Dre has higher proc chance with this one:
CcQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYmZ2wMzMMzMzgtZGLz2MAAAAAAAAAAWAAAEAgAAABAAAAQAAAAwA
Had tons of fun making this build,
also I think Witch is bugged, because it only increases 20% damage instead of 25%, reported it, I don't know if they fixed it.
(Interested in your point of view)
Soooo its really good at padding... say less. 😂
Would be cool if we just carried the totem on our back
Totemic projection needs to be changed into having no CD at all for certain totems in pve. I get it for pvp reasons, but for pve.. Man just let us move the totems whenever we want.
I tried a few keys as totemic and i enjoyed it more then stormbringer tbh.. But pug tanks thinks they are in mdi and move every 5 seconds. so its just a total disaster.
totemic is SO unhealthy jesus. "dont spec this, useless, dont click this, bad, we dont want this, its shit"
"HAMMER STORMSTRIKE; THIS GOOD"
(I know stormbringer aint much better, but alteast we spread flame shocks :(
10minutes dummy fight, 3 sundering procs, deleted the talent loadout
Stormbringer is leaps and bounds better than this lol. Both in ease of use and damage. I tried using totemic last night and I do not understand how a normal person can make this work
@@Travster93 same. Its so absolutely bad to play. i hate to play it so fucking much
I would make some changes to this build. Frost Shock, Hailstorm, Swirling Mailstorm, Primordial Wave to be taken instead of Voltaic Blaze, Tempest Strikes and Stormfury and Elemental Assault. It won't change the gameplay by much, but has bigger dmg output and better single target. This is because:
1. frost shock hits like a truck in 6 targets (hits about 1-1.3 mil crits per mob in 614 ilvl gear with empower from Ice Strike and Frost Witch) + returns mailstrom weapon.
2. you don't need voltaic blaze, the first flame shock cast with the totem down will spread it to 6 targets + you also have Molten assault to use in case. (it also deals nature dmg and is super rng).
3. when you drop totem + primordial , you alreay have 6 targets ready for a giga LB then you have frost witch ready in 2 casts and a big burst that also activates Totemic Rebound.
4. Frost shock is empowered then it returns 2 mailstrom weapon and hits 5 targets in a single spell (more than Voltaic Blaze would do) and it is ready once every 6 seconds as empower.
5. I would switch tempest strikes to Ice Strike (it returns mailstrom weapon and also hits aoe when used after Crash Lightning). It would be smth like : use 10 mailstrom to get Frost Witch -> Crash Lightning + Ice Strike then a Frost Shock and immediately LB or CL.
Tempest strikes is about 2-3 % of the overall which is not the best and deal nature dmg which is not empowered. Overall my frost shocks are 2 or 3 in top damage after the totem ofc.
This is at least what I got to manage with my tests :D Try it and if it helps you then I'm glad :D
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Yeah man im sure the rank 1 io shaman and GM of a top 10 world guild is doing something wrong and you're better than him
You're not understanding how to use voltaic blaze with totemic. You flame shock before dropping totem, then wait for voltaic blaze proc and it hits way harder than frost. I've had 2 mill+ voltaic blazes.
you doing somethin wrong with ur voltaic, if u frost shock is hitting more.
Why are people aggresive in chat lol. I didn't say i.m better, never implied. I know how to use voltaic, but that is rng , u can use one empowered once every 24 sec. Frost shock empowered hits 1.3-1.5 mil once every 10 sec on 5 mobs...and also i have 614 ilvl. Don.t jump on the throat for a simple guide i left. Cheers
@@ganxtaful lol no one was aggressive. I'm testing your build, I found a big problem with managing ascendance + frost shock + ice time. During ascendance I was doing the tests, I did more damage just by spamming windstrike, so it's a very large window without using frostshock + ice. I tried to use it in the middle of ascendance, I felt like I lost damage.
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Too bad this build is about 1-1.5 million behind on AoE compared to Storm.