For more info on compasses and maps, check out this playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLlvBLL5-fJbjKV34J5pvApsrMrrpJhRzE.html I made those videos a while back. The first one about getting free maps is pretty outdated because ethe USGS website has changed, but the rest are valid. Honestly, if I need a map I buy it from MyTopo.com. You can create custom centered maps in a variety of scales and get them on water-resistant, tear-resistant paper for about $16 or so.
USMC Land Navigation Sergeants Course is sold on Amazon. The two compasses you highlighted are the only two I would trust my life with. For anyone wanting to get out and learn, they can find a local orienteiring group. REI may even offer classes.
Cool! I spent 6 years in the Royal Canadian Army Cadets (RCAC), where we used a lot of disused supplies from military surplus stores. I think that our troops probably used base-plate models, as opposed to lensatic compasses, because I've only ever seen these things on UA-cam and in movies featuring American soldiers. They're really cool looking and it's always fun to learn M&C skills with different types of maps and compasses to have a holistic understanding, because you never know where or when you find yourself stranded. If I were to find myself stranded south of the Canadian border, ill have the skills to get my sorry self to safety. Thank you
Always impressed at creators who make their content with Mr. Tripod. He is a highly decorated, award winning film maker with the most Academy Award nominations ever. No clue how this guy afforded Mr. Tripod as he usually demands millions in both budget and huge percentages of box office sales. Very impressed.
Thanks for sharing i just found a lenssatic compass in a shed on the property i just purchased thanks to you i now know how to use it thanks once again 😀 God bless you and stay safe in these troubled times 🙋♂️ 🇬🇧
Hi Brian. I am retired military and as a retirement gift my friends gave me a tritium lensatic compass. I have used it along with a Suunto MC2 for years on hiking/backpacking trips around the world. I have never gotten lost while using these valuable tools. You explained the uses of the lensatic compass extremely well. I think everyone who goes into nature on hikes, camping or just traveling should have a compass in his/her possession. Too many people veer off trail or the road and get lost, sadly, sometimes paying the ultimate price.
I think Tritium was the deal breaker for me as I've been out when it was too dark to use a compass easily. I also will use this with Suunto baseplate only compass. How you use these def depends what you want to do and how you use in conjunction with maps. You can use them to detemine a landmark from pre-chosen bearings or determine bearings from landmarks.
Thank you, I was in the Army and this was the compass that we used for land navigation and finding a 6 digit grid reference. I also think I used this compass back in the day when I was a Scout. Keep up the Fire!
I still have mine that was issued to me while in the Marines way back in 1988. I qualified with this Compass... At night!!! I'm in my 50's now & still prefer to navigate with this Compass than a GPS. Thanks for highlighting this amazing piece of tech.
I have tried to understand how to use one of those, but maybe my mind wouldn't catch ahold of what the instructor was saying, but I think now maybe a little of me and instructor, But Brian, it was very clear to me how you explained it! Thanks for ALL your videos, they help so much! Side note, I'm 70 now and joined the BSA when I was about 10 and only stayed about 2 years then quit, maybe me maybe scout master but something didn't work, but if he was anything like you, I would have been a proud eagle scout and probably a life long scout master like you!
Wow, that was the BEST explanation of how to use a lensatic compass I've seen on the net yet! You took the trouble to show in close-up detail how to line up the magnifier and sighting wire as the user would view it. Excellent, enlightening video!
Thanks Brian. I've watched a boatload of videos on lensatic compasses and ended up more confused than before I watched them. Your video got right to the point. As Jack Webb used to say, "just the facts". I watch all of your posts and I greatly appreciate them. You get right to the point and you don't dish out any BS.
This was great. I’ve been through a couple land nav courses in the military and this easily made things a lot less complicated than it’s made out to be. Thank you.
Looked good to me, good to know it meets military approval (That's you ;) ) . Couple of us heading into desert, just wanted to get brushed up, for the first time and not get too parched.
Wow. What a simple to understand and well explained tutorial. After being out of the military for almost 30 years my old brain needed a refresher. Thank you!
This learning video is worth its weight in gold, just some people have the gift of teaching that comes naturally and he has it, learned very easy and understandable.. TY
Nice. Technic tip: you can hold your eye to the little magnifying glass, and see your bearing and see the wire (direction) at the same time. You don't need to lift your eye to see the wire. Slide the lensatic eye piece into the cover that has the grove to match the lensatic grove. They should be touching.
I just received one and the initial impression is very positive. One day I realized that my Suunto compass was the most fragile piece in my kit, great compass though for sure. The Cammenga is built tough and I can sense the potential for greater accuracy. I think the face plate has appearance of fine print and therefore viewed as more complicated. The Tritium glows all night. After ten years the Suunto mirror is becoming a little cloudy, reflectiveness seems to be fading. I would carry the Cammenga on a belt but the Suunto needs insulation from shock and abrasions. .
Carry the Suunto on a lanyard around your neck or in a breast pocket. I know many Marines who have dumped the Camenga for the Suunto in civilian use. The Suunto should not be banging around in a rucksack or bugout bag.
Thank you for making this video. My fiance got me one of those Cammengas as a Christmas present 18 years ago. I loved it but had no idea how to use it. I just found it a few weeks ago going through some boxes in storage. I brought it home determined to figure out how to use it. Glad I held onto it.
Last year I just retired my Cammenga compass that I had when I got out of the Corps in 1983. Bought another Cammenga phosphorescent model 27. But after a while, I missed having the tritium, so I bought a model 3H. Then a week later, I couldn’t resist getting the Cammenga wrist compass with tritium. Yeah, they’re that good 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you for explaining how to use this type of compass, I've seen this style before but was never really sure how exactly to use it. I'm trying to buy more items made in America and will pick this one up. Thanks for the video.
Thank you for your painstaking work more grease to your elbow. Your lecture on the use of compass is the best for me. Thank you. I will definitely put it in practice.
Thank you! Like others said, you broke it down and made it very understandable. You have a new subscriber and I can't wait to see what else I can learn from you.
Very good Bryan! I used a flat compass in the 70's in Scouts as the few others who had them did also. We all talked about the lensatic compasses but living in the middle of nowhere we never found any to buy. Now they are everywhere and I have 4 lensatic compasses. Gave my first compass to a young scout when I left the Scouts. We also learned to know about the length of our stride walking for compass use. Watching a group of kids take turns following a predetermined course through the woods following a drawing with coordinates and foot length of distance was an experience. Good lesson!
I was in the US Navy but due to my mos being an Aircraft Electrician's Mate I was never taught to use any kind of compass. I bought a new AOFAR model AF-4580 lensatic compass. It is quite different from the military version you have. I would love to see you do a video on the AF-4580 model for beginner's like myself. I am looking forward to seeing how to use the compasses in your video.
Oh me and my cousin love doing Land Navigation when we were kids and yes, but some of us learned from the Boy Scouts and some of us learn from our fathers that were in the military. . We had one of those military Compass is back then. Long time ago and enjoyed using it and doing what we did with it Land Navigation, and it was fun. Till somebody stole our compass. Which upset the three of us? . We've always had our suspicions who took it. . This is a great thing to teach. You need to keep doing stuff like this.
Very Nice and Easy explanation. The problem of the this compass is, that the 4 screws on the bottom are from not fully unmagnetic steel. The needle has ca. 2 degree deviation in the headings where the needle is close to one of that screws. This is not big problem and I use Cammenga every day but in case I need to find small point then I use Suunto compass or prismatic compass, which is very precise and much cheaper. Cammenga is very easy and fast. And very visible in the night or in the darkness. Thanks
FYI - I got this email from Cammenga this morning... Thank you for reaching out to Cammenga. Yes, we offer a Tritium Refresh Service for $50, including shipping the compass back to an address within the United States. Please send us a photo of the ink stamping on the inside cover, as well as a photo of the compass laying flat, from both sides. This will help us to determine if the model you have is serviceable.
Good video Bryan, thank you. This topic really deserves a much longer instructional video (or a series of videos) taking the time to explain what it is you are actually doing when using the different types of compasses and maps in route plotting, then following the route you plotted using compass only, maps only, and both simultaneously. Many folks, new to the outdoors or even old hands out there, have no concept of what they are doing with these tools. Single digit math only, color interpretation, seeing the terrain in the map, and occasional step counting at times are all skills that can be developed easily under proper instruction. I think we all make it harder than it is sometimes. Going to and participating in an Orienteering Club meet is a great way to hone a few of those skills. Do a beginner course and maybe try one of the longer courses when you are ready. Your map, compass, and routefinding skills will improve greatly.
Damn ryt this is such a tricky subject and very hard to learn from just a video esp if the person assumes you even kno what an azimuth is and the compass can be a more complex model etc, realy needs to be broke down into each process and function.
I'm 28 so I'm a little too old for Webelos or whatever, these videos are as close as I will get to being involved in the Scouts again. Please make more videos like these
That was the best compass reading video I have ever seen. You broke it down so perfectly that I actually understand it now. Please do more on reading maps. Thank you so much for that video
For more info on compasses and maps, check out this playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLlvBLL5-fJbjKV34J5pvApsrMrrpJhRzE.html I made those videos a while back. The first one about getting free maps is pretty outdated because the USGS website has changed, but the rest are valid. Honestly, if I need a map I buy it from MyTopo.com. You can create custom centered maps in a variety of scales and get them on water-resistant, tear-resistant paper for about $16 or so.
I would've failed land nav in the Army if not for buddies who were good at it. This is a great vid- best explanation + DEMONSTRATION I've experienced. Subbed
I spent 6 years in the Army National Guard and we trained a lot with this lensatic compass. I backpacked a lot in the Colorado Rocky Mountains too in my younger years so I used a compass a lot for land navigation my a topo map.
Learned to use a compass in the boy scouts, but lost the skill as I got older and didn't use it, thanks for the refresher, I need to get my compass out now
Thank you Sir, this is the difference between one who can explain compared to other videos out there that leave u more confused than what u started with
I agree with the commenter below, finally a video on compass reading that I can understand... fire the most part. There are lots of things that others don't seem to cover. For example, why would you need to set a bearing? The reason is because on a map there might be obstacles between you and your objective. I'm using a cheaper compass (Brunton), my compass face has two lines... (What is the second line for?) What happens if you get off your bearing as you travel at night? My guess is that you would have to re-identify your location if you got far enough off track.
Something I would have mentioned is return bearings, and how to be careful not to alter the magnetic properties of the compass. I totally agree with you that everyone should know how to use a compass. Great Video!
Great video. After looking at several compass and pace bead videos I learned the most from yours. This made the Lensmatic seem more intuitive. I may pick one up when the old pension check gets here.
Great lesson but you alway have to remember to adjust for your Grid Magnetic Angle which moves slightly every year. It only works out to a few Mils but when walking on a bearing for a long distances, it can make a big difference to where you end up. 👍
It depends on where you are, where I am in the Eastern US, it’s 12 degrees, much more than a few mils. There are places out west that are much more than that, just easterly rather than westerly.
Brian, pretty accurate summary, imo. Good advice, & instruction, too. I find I have to think of how the Cammenga & Base plate type compasses work / function - as kind of working the opposite way compared to each other. In how to account for magnetic declination - Because the compass needle moves independently from the degree scale on the bezel on base plate type compasses, but on the Cammenga the degree scale is printed on the compass card and the degree scale rotates (moves) with the magnetic north seeking arrow. It looks a little different on the two types. It's easier to understand if you have both types of compass to see it for yourself. However, when orienting the map to true north you still do the same thing with both types of compasses, only it will look a bit different on the two types of compasses. Align the edge of the compass parallel to the north-south line on the map, compass pointing to north on the map. Turn both together until the compass needle points North, as in the video. Then : [[ If mag. declination is 10˚ West, you turn the map & compass together CW by 10˚]]. {{ If mag. declination is 10˚ East, you turn map & compass together CCW by 10˚}}. After that alignment when you take a heading directly off the map the compass will already be set correctly for local mag. declination. Only this process will look different on the two different types of Compass. If mag. declination is 8˚ West. The N on the compass card of the Cammenga will be 8˚ CCW of the Index Line. Below the index line will indicate 8˚. But if using a base plate compass. The compass needle will be 8˚ ccw from the N on the bezel (N aligned with direction of travel arrow) and the needle will be pointing at 352˚ (or pointing at 8˚ West on the mag. declination scale printed inside the compass capsule. On Suunto compasses that mag. declination scale is sometimes printed at the south end of the compass needle, on other compasses, such as Silva, the mag. declination scale is usually printed at the north end of the compass needle) See how the two compasses look a bit different? --- In the above example :: the Cammenga reads 8˚ below the index line, but the north end of the needle on a base plate compass points at 352˚. It's same adjustment. It just looks a bit different. Kind of the opposite. Keep that difference straight and you can easily switch between using the two types of compasses. ; -) FYI - Cammenga specs their compasses to being accurate to +/- 40 mils (= +/- 2.25˚). Suunto specs the MC-2 accurate to 2.5˚, the MC-2G accurate to 2˚. Silva specs their Ranger models accurate to 2˚, and their Guide, Hiker and Explorer compasses accurate to 1˚. The point being: if you are where mag. declination is only about 3˚, as it was on the map in your video, ignoring mag. declination is probably ok, as it is very close to your compass accuracy, and how accurately most people can read the compass. But if in Maine, mag. declination is about 16˚ West or Washington state, where mag. declination is near 16˚ East, it will pay to orient your map more accurately by turning the map CW 16˚ for West mag declination or CCW 16˚ for East mag declination. Probably best to account for any mag. declination greater than 4˚ or 5˚. The thumb-rule I use is 1˚/@ 1 mile / =100 ft off correct heading. (actually it's ~ 92 ft, but 100 ft is easier to remember, and makes the math easier). So it's easy to see that if you ignore a 5˚ mag. declination at 1 mile you could miss your target destination by 500 ft, greater than the length of a football field. Plus any inaccuracy of walking the heading accurately. Which is why it's good practice to use intentional off set of direct bearing to the target destination. Anyway, I appreciate your many videos. Thanks for uploading them.
You're a good instructor, this video has helped me understand the basics of using a lensatic compass. I bought a Sportneer lensatic compass, not the Cammenga, which is similar to the Cammenga you use, but has an inclinometer on the side that folds up. Do you have any suggestions on how the use the Sportneer lensatic compass? The compass comes with a manual but it's poorly written and difficult to understand. I appreciate your instructions and help.
Triangulation. Using a map of the area you are in and from your position, find a land feature you can identify that's on the map, like a mountain top, a lake, etc. and take a bearing. Place the compass on the map with the direction of travel arrow pointing to your reference object and the straightedge aligned (tangential) to the object point (like a mountain top). Rotate the entire compass about that object point until the orienting lines on the compass are aligned north and south, and north on the bezel ring is pointing to north on the map. Draw a line from the reference object point along the straightedge back toward you. You are on that line somewhere. Now find another object, at least 60 degrees away from the first object (obviously not 180 degrees away) and repeat the process with another identifiable object. Where the lines cross is your position. Take a third bearing and you will get a triangle around your position.
As a vet, I was in Field Artillery. In F.A we use mil-radians instead of degree's. 1°= 17.78 mil. 6283 mil in 360°, which when firing a explosive 20 miles or so, the mil factor is absolutely necessary. That's probably the biggest difference between civilian and military compasses. I don't believe some needs such equipment for Hunting or hiking. The military compasses are quite expensive because of the ability to break 360° into mils. Good day too you, thank you for the info. More people need to know map and compass navigation.
I am glad to hear that. Because i almost didn't get this one posted. Let's just say if it was film there would be alot more on the cutting room floor than in the can ;-)
Another benefit of lensatic compasses: you can find old milsurp ones dirt effing cheap, since nobody knows how great they are, and they are almost always just fine conditionally in my limited experience, and often made in OD or black painted steel, which i personally prefer over the modern composites.
I have been terrible with compasses my entire life, but I have always wanted to know how to use them. I just can't make it make sense to me. I am going to watch this video a few more times and see if I get it. Thanks for the video, and all the explanation.
I love the Insight on this video Bryan. Thank you for the tips on how to use a compass I always love expanding my knowledge. And that's why I love your videos. Please keep up the great work. Looking forward to seeing more.
10:23 so far what you have gone over is very helpful even though my lensatic compass is very different than the military one you are using. I'd like to know what the smaller numbers in red are for. The larger numbers in black in the hundreds now makes sense to me for bearing or heading. Thank you for making this video.
Awesome video bud. I am very very very rusty on my map skills lol. Watching this and your other compass videos make me want to brush back up on my old skills. Thanks for the info.
You can do a three legged, or triangular, compass walk. Pick a bearing and count your paces. One count for every time right foot (or left) hits ground. Stop and turn the bezel 40 clicks to the left. Walk the same number of paces. Stop and once again, 40 clicks towards the left. You'll wind up at your starting point, or at least very close. You'll walk an equalateral triangle. Each detent on the bezel is 3 degrees. 40 X 3 = 120 which is each angle of an equalateral triangle. You can turn it either way initially. Your direction of travel will be opposite from the direction you turn the bezel. If you turn it toward the right...it'll send you to the left on that leg. Just be consistent in whichever way you rotate the bezel. Check out "Ranger beads" which help keep track of paces. Also, learn what your personal pace count is per 100 meters. Average is about 65. So every time you count to 65 (or whatever) pull down a bead. Great confidence excersise. Try for one kilometer per leg of the triangle. Know beforehand what direction it is to get back just in case.
For more info on compasses and maps, check out this playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLlvBLL5-fJbjKV34J5pvApsrMrrpJhRzE.html I made those videos a while back. The first one about getting free maps is pretty outdated because ethe USGS website has changed, but the rest are valid. Honestly, if I need a map I buy it from MyTopo.com. You can create custom centered maps in a variety of scales and get them on water-resistant, tear-resistant paper for about $16 or so.
USMC Land Navigation Sergeants Course is sold on Amazon. The two compasses you highlighted are the only two I would trust my life with. For anyone wanting to get out and learn, they can find a local orienteiring group. REI may even offer classes.
I know it's been 4 years but I have a question what is model of protrek casio you have?
Thank you
4 years of being in the Army and having this explained differently each time Ive never fully understood. Thank you. You made this so easy!
🤣 Army. Should have joined the Navy. Lol jk we use the stars to direct our sea free floating spirits
Wait. The Army has been lost for 4 years?
Land Navigation instructors in the Army ha ha
Very confusing explanation as far as I am concerned - I still don't understand how to use the army compass.
@@galehess6676 Actually, the Army has been lost for nearly 250 years.
Cool! I spent 6 years in the Royal Canadian Army Cadets (RCAC), where we used a lot of disused supplies from military surplus stores.
I think that our troops probably used base-plate models, as opposed to lensatic compasses, because I've only ever seen these things on UA-cam and in movies featuring American soldiers. They're really cool looking and it's always fun to learn M&C skills with different types of maps and compasses to have a holistic understanding, because you never know where or when you find yourself stranded.
If I were to find myself stranded south of the Canadian border, ill have the skills to get my sorry self to safety. Thank you
Always impressed at creators who make their content with Mr. Tripod. He is a highly decorated, award winning film maker with the most Academy Award nominations ever. No clue how this guy afforded Mr. Tripod as he usually demands millions in both budget and huge percentages of box office sales. Very impressed.
Yup. Thought the same thing
Thanks for sharing i just found a lenssatic compass in a shed on the property i just purchased thanks to you i now know how to use it thanks once again 😀
God bless you and stay safe in these troubled times 🙋♂️ 🇬🇧
Hi Brian. I am retired military and as a retirement gift my friends gave me a tritium lensatic compass. I have used it along with a Suunto MC2 for years on hiking/backpacking trips around the world. I have never gotten lost while using these valuable tools. You explained the uses of the lensatic compass extremely well. I think everyone who goes into nature on hikes, camping or just traveling should have a compass in his/her possession. Too many people veer off trail or the road and get lost, sadly, sometimes paying the ultimate price.
I think Tritium was the deal breaker for me as I've been out when it was too dark to use a compass easily. I also will use this with Suunto baseplate only compass. How you use these def depends what you want to do and how you use in conjunction with maps. You can use them to detemine a landmark from pre-chosen bearings or determine bearings from landmarks.
Thank you, I was in the Army and this was the compass that we used for land navigation and finding a 6 digit grid reference. I also think I used this compass back in the day when I was a Scout. Keep up the Fire!
Thanks, finally a lesson on reading a compass that i could understand.
I'mglad it helped
Me too. Civvie here. Helped a lot. Hopefully i wont be lost in the triple canopy jungles of the Philippines. 😬
I still have mine that was issued to me while in the Marines way back in 1988. I qualified with this
Compass... At night!!! I'm in my 50's now & still prefer to navigate with this Compass than a GPS.
Thanks for highlighting this amazing piece of tech.
Cool
Semper Fi
I have tried to understand how to use one of those, but maybe my mind wouldn't catch ahold of what the instructor was saying, but I think now maybe a little of me and instructor,
But Brian, it was very clear to me how you explained it!
Thanks for ALL your videos, they help so much!
Side note, I'm 70 now and joined the BSA when I was about 10 and only stayed about 2 years then quit, maybe me maybe scout master but something didn't work, but if he was anything like you, I would have been a proud eagle scout and probably a life long scout master like you!
my first video from you. good stuff
20 years in the army, 85-2005.
Wow, that was the BEST explanation of how to use a lensatic compass I've seen on the net yet! You took the trouble to show in close-up detail how to line up the magnifier and sighting wire as the user would view it. Excellent, enlightening video!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Brian. I've watched a boatload of videos on lensatic compasses and ended up more confused than before I watched them. Your video got right to the point. As Jack Webb used to say, "just the facts". I watch all of your posts and I greatly appreciate them. You get right to the point and you don't dish out any BS.
Thanks
Agreed. For every 100 Lensatic tutorials on the internet, 1 of them is worthwhile.
And you can bet if ANYONE knows anything about compass reading it's a scout!
Great video!!
Probably the best basic lesson on using a Cammenga on the internet. Thank you for posting.
I’m glad you found it helpful.
This was great. I’ve been through a couple land nav courses in the military and this easily made things a lot less complicated than it’s made out to be. Thank you.
Looked good to me, good to know it meets military approval (That's you ;) ) . Couple of us heading into desert, just wanted to get brushed up, for the first time and not get too parched.
Wow. What a simple to understand and well explained tutorial. After being out of the military for almost 30 years my old brain needed a refresher. Thank you!
Thank YOU for the encouragement. I'm glad tis helped.
Thank you for the refresher course.
Haven't done this since I got out of the military about 45 years ago.
You are welcome
This learning video is worth its weight in gold, just some people have the gift of teaching that comes naturally and he has it, learned very easy and understandable.. TY
This is definitely one of better presentations on Lensatic Compasses .Thank you Sir.
Glad it was helpful!
Best compass tutorial I’ve watched on UA-cam!! Thank you so much!!
Only suggestion I’d have is remember to adjust your bearing to include magnetic declination.
Nice. Technic tip: you can hold your eye to the little magnifying glass, and see your bearing and see the wire (direction) at the same time. You don't need to lift your eye to see the wire.
Slide the lensatic eye piece into the cover that has the grove to match the lensatic grove. They should be touching.
thx! I think if I had graduated lenses like the OP, I wouldn't be able to do this, but you pointed it out!
Well done Sir. I'm preparing myself for my first moose hunt this coming fall. That's 6 months away but I want to be ready and confident. Thank you.
You know where the best place to shoot a moose is, don’t you?
Was seriously terrible at this no one ever explained the purpose of the index marker. Lighting just struck my brain. Thank you
this is the compass i learned on in the army, thanks for the refresher, been 30 years since i used one
I bought this compass year's ago only seen 2 videos that explained it simple n easy thx you great video
I'm a proud owner of one of these awesome compasses! Glad to see this to learn more about how to run a bearing from a topological map.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you, thank you, thank you. The first youtube video were I could understand how to use compas.
I just received one and the initial impression is very positive. One day I realized that my Suunto compass was the most fragile piece in my kit, great compass though for sure. The Cammenga is built tough and I can sense the potential for greater accuracy. I think the face plate has appearance of fine print and therefore viewed as more complicated. The Tritium glows all night.
After ten years the Suunto mirror is becoming a little cloudy, reflectiveness seems to be fading. I would carry the Cammenga on a belt but the Suunto needs insulation from shock and abrasions. .
Carry the Suunto on a lanyard around your neck or in a breast pocket. I know many Marines who have dumped the Camenga for the Suunto in civilian use. The Suunto should not be banging around in a rucksack or bugout bag.
Thank you for making this video. My fiance got me one of those Cammengas as a Christmas present 18 years ago. I loved it but had no idea how to use it. I just found it a few weeks ago going through some boxes in storage. I brought it home determined to figure out how to use it. Glad I held onto it.
I hope I was a little bit helpful.
Last year I just retired my Cammenga compass that I had when I got out of the Corps in 1983. Bought another Cammenga phosphorescent model 27. But after a while, I missed having the tritium, so I bought a model 3H. Then a week later, I couldn’t resist getting the Cammenga wrist compass with tritium.
Yeah, they’re that good 👍🏻👍🏻
Yes they are
Thank you for explaining how to use this type of compass, I've seen this style before but was never really sure how exactly to use it. I'm trying to buy more items made in America and will pick this one up. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for showing us all these carpisses.
Excellent video, very informative and accurate.
I have shared this with several people to learn how to use a lensatic compass.
Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for your painstaking work more grease to your elbow. Your lecture on the use of compass is the best for me. Thank you. I will definitely put it in practice.
Thank you! Like others said, you broke it down and made it very understandable. You have a new subscriber and I can't wait to see what else I can learn from you.
Very good Bryan! I used a flat compass in the 70's in Scouts as the few others who had them did also. We all talked about the lensatic compasses but living in the middle of nowhere we never found any to buy. Now they are everywhere and I have 4 lensatic compasses. Gave my first compass to a young scout when I left the Scouts. We also learned to know about the length of our stride walking for compass use. Watching a group of kids take turns following a predetermined course through the woods following a drawing with coordinates and foot length of distance was an experience. Good lesson!
Good old orienteering courses.
I was in the US Navy but due to my mos being an Aircraft Electrician's Mate I was never taught to use any kind of compass. I bought a new AOFAR model AF-4580 lensatic compass. It is quite different from the military version you have. I would love to see you do a video on the AF-4580 model for beginner's like myself. I am looking forward to seeing how to use the compasses in your video.
Oh me and my cousin love doing Land Navigation when we were kids and yes, but some of us learned from the Boy Scouts and some of us learn from our fathers that were in the military. . We had one of those military Compass is back then. Long time ago and enjoyed using it and doing what we did with it Land Navigation, and it was fun. Till somebody stole our compass. Which upset the three of us? . We've always had our suspicions who took it. . This is a great thing to teach. You need to keep doing stuff like this.
I'll do my best
That was the best lesson on the compass I've ever seen. Books overcomplicate it. Ty!
Glad it was helpful!
Very Nice and Easy explanation. The problem of the this compass is, that the 4 screws on the bottom are from not fully unmagnetic steel. The needle has ca. 2 degree deviation in the headings where the needle is close to one of that screws. This is not big problem and I use Cammenga every day but in case I need to find small point then I use Suunto compass or prismatic compass, which is very precise and much cheaper. Cammenga is very easy and fast. And very visible in the night or in the darkness. Thanks
FYI - I got this email from Cammenga this morning...
Thank you for reaching out to Cammenga.
Yes, we offer a Tritium Refresh Service for $50, including shipping the compass back to an address within the United States. Please send us a photo of the ink stamping on the inside cover, as well as a photo of the compass laying flat, from both sides. This will help us to determine if the model you have is serviceable.
Awesome demo! I never quite understood any of the parts of these compasses, other than needle points North. Thank you.
Good video Bryan, thank you. This topic really deserves a much longer instructional video (or a series of videos) taking the time to explain what it is you are actually doing when using the different types of compasses and maps in route plotting, then following the route you plotted using compass only, maps only, and both simultaneously. Many folks, new to the outdoors or even old hands out there, have no concept of what they are doing with these tools. Single digit math only, color interpretation, seeing the terrain in the map, and occasional step counting at times are all skills that can be developed easily under proper instruction. I think we all make it harder than it is sometimes. Going to and participating in an Orienteering Club meet is a great way to hone a few of those skills. Do a beginner course and maybe try one of the longer courses when you are ready. Your map, compass, and routefinding skills will improve greatly.
How about this? ua-cam.com/play/PLlvBLL5-fJbjKV34J5pvApsrMrrpJhRzE.html
Damn ryt this is such a tricky subject and very hard to learn from just a video esp if the person assumes you even kno what an azimuth is and the compass can be a more complex model etc, realy needs to be broke down into each process and function.
Great video.. Maybe this knowledge will help me while hunting.. Awesome 😎 Sir..Too find the truck.
I'm 28 so I'm a little too old for Webelos or whatever, these videos are as close as I will get to being involved in the Scouts again. Please make more videos like these
I’ll try
Thank you, sir. You did a good job in shedding some light to this helplessly non-directional guy.
Glad to help
That was the best compass reading video I have ever seen. You broke it down so perfectly that I actually understand it now. Please do more on reading maps. Thank you so much for that video
For more info on compasses and maps, check out this playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLlvBLL5-fJbjKV34J5pvApsrMrrpJhRzE.html I made those videos a while back. The first one about getting free maps is pretty outdated because the USGS website has changed, but the rest are valid. Honestly, if I need a map I buy it from MyTopo.com. You can create custom centered maps in a variety of scales and get them on water-resistant, tear-resistant paper for about $16 or so.
I would've failed land nav in the Army if not for buddies who were good at it.
This is a great vid- best explanation + DEMONSTRATION I've experienced. Subbed
I am glad it helped. Thanks
Best instructions on how to use the compass by far, simple and to the point.
Thank you! Very well explained. Even to the specifics with the lensatic features.
Thank you for taking the time to demonstrate the use of a Lensatic compass. This was very helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Cool video! I learned how to use one in basic training when I was 18, I have used one in a while amd needed a refresher thanks!
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I spent 6 years in the Army National Guard and we trained a lot with this lensatic compass. I backpacked a lot in the Colorado Rocky Mountains too in my younger years so I used a compass a lot for land navigation my a topo map.
I am more comfortable with a baseplat compass but these are top quality
Learned to use a compass in the boy scouts, but lost the skill as I got older and didn't use it, thanks for the refresher, I need to get my compass out now
You should. It might be fun
The top and the bottom touch then you look through the lens. Nice job
I had no idea how good the Cammenga 3H is! I like how the whole bearing plate rotates magnetically. It definitely rivals the Suunto MC 2 I use!
It does!
Thank you Sir, this is the difference between one who can explain compared to other videos out there that leave u more confused than what u started with
You are a very clear and awesome instructor for this device. I really enjoyed this material. I'm for sure subscribing, have a blessed one
You explained that well in terms even I can understand. Other explanations I've seen of the Cammenga 3H overcomplicate things.
This was a great video! It gave me an idea as to how to use a compass when I had none. You explained it well.
I'm glad it helped.
Excellent video thank you! I’ve watch numerous videos trying to explain this topic and yours broke it down in an understandable way!
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Very easy to understand way to read a compass.......Thank You !!!
Thanks
I'm usually more confused when somebody explains how to use a compass that I understood THANKS
I am glad it helped.
Great explanation of using this compass. I got the one less expensive version of this compass. But I've wanted a compass for a long time.
Never good at orienteering even though I was a Scout way back. But dusting of those old brain cells getting back into it. Thanks for the help!
Glad to help
Love it carry one for years all over the world, drawing the strait line is cool and it works ,But protractor is better, Good job.
Whatever works
I agree with the commenter below, finally a video on compass reading that I can understand... fire the most part. There are lots of things that others don't seem to cover. For example, why would you need to set a bearing? The reason is because on a map there might be obstacles between you and your objective. I'm using a cheaper compass (Brunton), my compass face has two lines... (What is the second line for?) What happens if you get off your bearing as you travel at night? My guess is that you would have to re-identify your location if you got far enough off track.
Something I would have mentioned is return bearings, and how to be careful not to alter the magnetic properties of the compass. I totally agree with you that everyone should know how to use a compass. Great Video!
I think I covered that in my earlier playlist. If not, I'll get on it ;-)
Great video. After looking at several compass and pace bead videos I learned the most from yours. This made the Lensmatic seem more intuitive. I may pick one up when the old pension check gets here.
I'm glad it helped
Great video. Completely understand how a lensatic works now, thanks
Great lesson but you alway have to remember to adjust for your Grid Magnetic Angle which moves slightly every year. It only works out to a few Mils but when walking on a bearing for a long distances, it can make a big difference to where you end up. 👍
Where I live magnetic variation is 357mils
It depends on where you are, where I am in the Eastern US, it’s 12 degrees, much more than a few mils. There are places out west that are much more than that, just easterly rather than westerly.
Brian, pretty accurate summary, imo. Good advice, & instruction, too.
I find I have to think of how the Cammenga & Base plate type compasses work / function - as kind of working the opposite way compared to each other. In how to account for magnetic declination - Because the compass needle moves independently from the degree scale on the bezel on base plate type compasses, but on the Cammenga the degree scale is printed on the compass card and the degree scale rotates (moves) with the magnetic north seeking arrow. It looks a little different on the two types. It's easier to understand if you have both types of compass to see it for yourself.
However, when orienting the map to true north you still do the same thing with both types of compasses, only it will look a bit different on the two types of compasses.
Align the edge of the compass parallel to the north-south line on the map, compass pointing to north on the map. Turn both together until the compass needle points North, as in the video. Then :
[[ If mag. declination is 10˚ West, you turn the map & compass together CW by 10˚]].
{{ If mag. declination is 10˚ East, you turn map & compass together CCW by 10˚}}.
After that alignment when you take a heading directly off the map the compass will already be set correctly for local mag. declination. Only this process will look different on the two different types of Compass.
If mag. declination is 8˚ West. The N on the compass card of the Cammenga will be 8˚ CCW of the Index Line. Below the index line will indicate 8˚. But if using a base plate compass. The compass needle will be 8˚ ccw from the N on the bezel (N aligned with direction of travel arrow) and the needle will be pointing at 352˚ (or pointing at 8˚ West on the mag. declination scale printed inside the compass capsule. On Suunto compasses that mag. declination scale is sometimes printed at the south end of the compass needle, on other compasses, such as Silva, the mag. declination scale is usually printed at the north end of the compass needle)
See how the two compasses look a bit different? ---
In the above example :: the Cammenga reads 8˚ below the index line, but the north end of the needle on a base plate compass points at 352˚. It's same adjustment. It just looks a bit different. Kind of the opposite. Keep that difference straight and you can easily switch between using the two types of compasses. ; -)
FYI - Cammenga specs their compasses to being accurate to +/- 40 mils (= +/- 2.25˚). Suunto specs the MC-2 accurate to 2.5˚, the MC-2G accurate to 2˚. Silva specs their Ranger models accurate to 2˚, and their Guide, Hiker and Explorer compasses accurate to 1˚. The point being: if you are where mag. declination is only about 3˚, as it was on the map in your video, ignoring mag. declination is probably ok, as it is very close to your compass accuracy, and how accurately most people can read the compass.
But if in Maine, mag. declination is about 16˚ West or Washington state, where mag. declination is near 16˚ East, it will pay to orient your map more accurately by turning the map CW 16˚ for West mag declination or CCW 16˚ for East mag declination. Probably best to account for any mag. declination greater than 4˚ or 5˚.
The thumb-rule I use is 1˚/@ 1 mile / =100 ft off correct heading. (actually it's ~ 92 ft, but 100 ft is easier to remember, and makes the math easier). So it's easy to see that if you ignore a 5˚ mag. declination at 1 mile you could miss your target destination by 500 ft, greater than the length of a football field. Plus any inaccuracy of walking the heading accurately. Which is why it's good practice to use intentional off set of direct bearing to the target destination.
Anyway, I appreciate your many videos. Thanks for uploading them.
Thanks
You're a good instructor, this video has helped me understand the basics of using a lensatic compass. I bought a Sportneer lensatic compass, not the Cammenga, which is similar to the Cammenga you use, but has an inclinometer on the side that folds up. Do you have any suggestions on how the use the Sportneer lensatic compass? The compass comes with a manual but it's poorly written and difficult to understand. I appreciate your instructions and help.
How do you use a compass to determine where you are? Oh, yes... Thank you for teaching me how to use a compass. It's about time I learned.
Triangulation. Using a map of the area you are in and from your position, find a land feature you can identify that's on the map, like a mountain top, a lake, etc. and take a bearing. Place the compass on the map with the direction of travel arrow pointing to your reference object and the straightedge aligned (tangential) to the object point (like a mountain top). Rotate the entire compass about that object point until the orienting lines on the compass are aligned north and south, and north on the bezel ring is pointing to north on the map. Draw a line from the reference object point along the straightedge back toward you. You are on that line somewhere. Now find another object, at least 60 degrees away from the first object (obviously not 180 degrees away) and repeat the process with another identifiable object. Where the lines cross is your position. Take a third bearing and you will get a triangle around your position.
Awesome job, sir. Thanks for doing this video.
What a fantastic video- thanks so much for explaining this. Really easy to understand
Very practical and useful. Thanks.
Thanks
Amazing, now I know how to use a compass
As a vet, I was in Field Artillery. In F.A we use mil-radians instead of degree's. 1°= 17.78 mil. 6283 mil in 360°, which when firing a explosive 20 miles or so, the mil factor is absolutely necessary. That's probably the biggest difference between civilian and military compasses. I don't believe some needs such equipment for Hunting or hiking. The military compasses are quite expensive because of the ability to break 360° into mils. Good day too you, thank you for the info. More people need to know map and compass navigation.
Great job Bryan. I have that style of compass and never really understood how to use it till now. You made it easy to understand. Thanks brother..
I am glad to hear that. Because i almost didn't get this one posted. Let's just say if it was film there would be alot more on the cutting room floor than in the can ;-)
Nice video, super helpful 👍thanks
Another benefit of lensatic compasses: you can find old milsurp ones dirt effing cheap, since nobody knows how great they are, and they are almost always just fine conditionally in my limited experience, and often made in OD or black painted steel, which i personally prefer over the modern composites.
Probably not steel as that would affect the needle
@@SurvivalOnPurpose absolutely correct - good point. it does feel like maybe a zinc or possibly Al casing. Not sure, but it's nice and rugged.
Great video, thanks for your time and info. I have been educated.
Me too.. That guy compass for Dummies ( Poor ) Whatever ..Confused me ..
Great video man. You’re a great teacher
I have been terrible with compasses my entire life, but I have always wanted to know how to use them. I just can't make it make sense to me. I am going to watch this video a few more times and see if I get it. Thanks for the video, and all the explanation.
I hope it helps.
Thanks for a great demonstration, that really made sense to me. 😀
I love the Insight on this video Bryan. Thank you for the tips on how to use a compass I always love expanding my knowledge. And that's why I love your videos. Please keep up the great work. Looking forward to seeing more.
Thanks Dave
Great video easy to understand !
Thank you! Great explanation!
Thanks for a good video very good explanation! Mine is a model 27 phosphorescent. Is that like the one you demonstrated?
10:23 so far what you have gone over is very helpful even though my lensatic compass is very different than the military one you are using. I'd like to know what the smaller numbers in red are for. The larger numbers in black in the hundreds now makes sense to me for bearing or heading. Thank you for making this video.
Glad you found it helpful.
Thanks for the information brian greeting from belize
Focus, grasshopper.
That snapped me to attention right quick
Thank you for your time and best efforts, great video, very informative and to the point
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thank you for this. You explained it better
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No nonsense explanation, thank you.
You're welcome!
Awesome video bud. I am very very very rusty on my map skills lol. Watching this and your other compass videos make me want to brush back up on my old skills. Thanks for the info.
Go for it
Survival On Purpose most definitely!
You can do a three legged, or triangular, compass walk. Pick a bearing and count your paces. One count for every time right foot (or left) hits ground. Stop and turn the bezel 40 clicks to the left. Walk the same number of paces. Stop and once again, 40 clicks towards the left. You'll wind up at your starting point, or at least very close. You'll walk an equalateral triangle. Each detent on the bezel is 3 degrees. 40 X 3 = 120 which is each angle of an equalateral triangle. You can turn it either way initially. Your direction of travel will be opposite from the direction you turn the bezel. If you turn it toward the right...it'll send you to the left on that leg. Just be consistent in whichever way you rotate the bezel. Check out "Ranger beads" which help keep track of paces. Also, learn what your personal pace count is per 100 meters. Average is about 65. So every time you count to 65 (or whatever) pull down a bead. Great confidence excersise. Try for one kilometer per leg of the triangle. Know beforehand what direction it is to get back just in case.
So is this to fine tune one's precision? Kind of like doing homework, or as AI says, "practice?" In other words, are we talking about practice?