@@rafael.aloizio1769there is no “right”. In 99% of cases a quick print / log gives me all the info I need to know. Usually just an “ok” to know it’s reaching that code. It’s simple, does the job, and is much more efficient than using a debugger
This. I feel it's junior dev positions that at risk the most here. Senior and even middle devs will still be needed to architect projects and supervise their completion.
@@GldnClaw I'm very interested in computer hardware and software. This month my high school was completed and preparing to join college for C.S in this June-july. But after watching Devin idk what will happen in next 3 years of my course 😭
Technology in general replaces humans. Most people used to work in agriculture, but most of them have been fired because of machines and chemicals that made human work obsolete. Those people never said "technology is great, it allows us to work faster". They just said "ok I lost my job, I'll go to the city and try to find a job in another field if I can".
@@brinckausort of. The tools used in agriculture means that there could be more farmers per farm, which speeds up the process. If anything, technology furthers society by making tedious/repetitive tasks done by computers. That way, all the sophisticated stuff can be done by humans. The thing society fails to neglect, is that the more people that DONT have jobs, the less capitalism thrives. In other words, corporations will die because they want to be cheap lmao.
@@AngelofD000M Corporations don't only want to be cheap, they have to be cheap. Let's say you have a company that produces glass bottles, and don't care about being cheap. You make your glass bottles like in the 18th century, i.e. by hand, one by one. You need 1 hour to make one bottle, when your competitors use robots and need 1 minute to make one bottle. What will happen to you? You will have to sell each bottle for at least $20, when your competitors will be able to sell them for $0.30. Nobody will want to pay 60 times more for the same thing. Your company will go bankrupt. You have to increase productivity all the time, you have no choice. Because there is competition. You will have to use robots. You will have to fire the workers that make glass bottles by hand. They will have to find a new job elsewhere. And when they find it, the same thing will happen again to them. Of course, this phenomenon can't go on forever. There will be and end. When? Actually, it happened in the 1970s (when computers started to generate an insane rise in productivity everywhere). But we have found a way to delay the collapse using debt. The debt of all countries combined grows at a rate of approximately $100,000... per second. Hence the inflation (that exists since the 1970s, even though people talk more about it now). More debt = less real money. Less real money = more fake money. And the fake money has no value. So $1 now is worth less than what it was worth in the past. Which means that things are more expensive. $100,000 per second, and there are 31,536,000 seconds in one year. It won't last long, that's for sure. But it's nobody's fault. There is absolutely no way of doing otherwise. Except of course to produce things not to sell them, but to use them. Then, you don't care about your job in the software engineering field, as long as the society as a whole can produce enough food (which it can, of course, easily, because the productivity is unbelievably high).
@@AngelofD000M Basically, in the past, 90% of people were farmers. Nowadays, only 2%. It's the same in every field. To produce nails, in the past, you needed to make them by hand, by hitting molten metal with a hammer, one by one. One person could only produce a few hundreds or thousands nails per day. Today, a robots can produce a thousand nails in a few seconds. That's why you can buy bags of 10,000 nails for a few dollars. If you try to produce nails like in the past, will your company succeed? No, because your nails will be thousands of times more expensive, and nobody will buy them. So, it's not a matter of choice. You HAVE to increase productivity as much as you can. People are becoming more and more obsolete. Therefore, we have to create new products all the time (computer, then smartphones, then smartwatches, then smartglasses, etc.), so there are enough jobs for everybody. It's never ending. Actually, it's not never-ending, because there are physical limits. Those limits have been reached already, so the end is near.
@@brinckau the problems comes from the fact that our means of survival are privately owned, if they weren't (and for most of humanity's history they haven't been) we would welcome technologies that allows us all to work less
@@HairEEck Like in communism? It has been tried and has always failed. Because they were still doing the same thing: to produce things in order to... get rid of them and get money in exchange. Publicly or privately owned, if what you do is the same thing (to make money), then you will have the same problems. For example, if you are surrounded by shops full of food, but don't have money, then you will starve. Because the food is produced to be sold, not to be eaten directly. Therefore, you need to find a job to earn money, so you can access the food. Which means that to get food, you need to produce the food + something else that is not needed in itself. Then the technology evolves, and this other things that is not needed in itself costs less and less. And therefore, generates less and less money. Which implies that you now have to produce food + this useless thing + another new thing, to compensate for the loss of money due to the productivity increase brought by technology. So basically, you need to produce more and more, and more, and more, etc. Why do you think they needed nuclear plants in USSR? Because like us, they also needed infinite exponential growth. Which can't be sustained for a long time.
@@HairEEck I wrote a reply to your comment, and UA-cam rejected it. Probably because of some AI thinking it was inappropriate. Maybe adding a positive vibe to my comment will help: I want more love and more peace in this world, I love CodingWithLewis videos, they are so great, I learn so much, the content is fantastic, and I agree with you about everything, my friend. Life is beautiful, I love flowers, and I'm so happy. So, now, my comment. The difference between past societies and ours is that nowadays, we produce money. Even when our means of survival aren't privately owned. And when you produce money, you need exponential growth. Why do you think they needed nuclear plants in USSR? Because they needed exponential growth, just like us. And infinite exponential growth can't be sustained for long. Suppose that you produce something. Then you have so much technology that you don't need humans at all to produce this thing. Like air. You don't need somebody to produce the air that you're breathing. The consequence of this is that the air is free. You can't make money by selling it. No matter whether the means of production are private or public. It's pointless. You have free air, but when you will go to a shop in order to buy food, they will tell you: "We don't care about your air, we want money, otherwise you can't have some food". But you don't have money, because your productivity is so high (thanks to technology) that what you produce is free (or, in reality, almost free, so you have some money, but almost nothing).
@@HairEEck So, you produce something that has no value anymore. Which means that you have to produce something else. But the same thing will happen. Technology, more productivity, decrease of the amount of money created. Etc. You basically need infinite growth, and it has nothing to do with who owns the means of production. It has to do with the fact that what you are producing is actually money. The material thing that you produce is just an excuse to get your salary. The salary is your real goal. At the end of the day, you go home with your salary, not with the goods that you have produced.
AI on replit sometimes scares the shit out of me by not only being able to understand my code, but being able to understand my intensions even when i fail to.
this apply to all fields. I'm an illustrator / designer and my clients all know about AI and how to use it (Tech field) yet they still call me to explain in a very confused way what they want.
1st wave of cuts: junior devs; mid levels learn how to use AI Dev 2nd wave of cuts: mid levels; seniors use AI Dev 3rd wave of cuts: senior devs; leads and managers learn how to use AI Dev Left after dust settles: a few senior level devs (that become basically prompt engineers for AI Dev) and management
@@UnknownUnknown-uq5rv it is true that large language models have changed the industry a bit, but the best part even that technology was known about circa 10 years ago.
What I can imagine is syntax becoming obsolete to write and learn. Mostly at least. Instead people can write programs giving natural language statements. Like "Create a List 'Items' and make a call to this endpoint to fill the List". And an AI writes the stuff in probably a very low level language. You still need to know what to do and where though and that's really the hard part about it
what an AI image generator was to visual artists (photographers illustrators etc) but it's more effective and targeted at the techbros and also sane people in that field (which i will hopefully be joining soon)
It's not even close to how a normal programer programs it can't scale code, complex programs, etc It's also not powerful Also remember using it , you'll need extra help editing after generating
Devin is here to replace all of us? Your short gave me an idea to make one as well. In all honesty, how long do you think before we actually are replaced?
I love how you now need to be a senior when coming out of college if you want a job. The more tools like this there are the less junior jobs there will be
Yes.... even at a degree of precision of 99.99% means that (100 - 99.99 = 0.01 => 0.01 * 10000 = 100 ) This means that one out of 10000 tasks it will crash and someone will have to come to fix it. This means that you will need someone to fix the issue, so I don't see it as something that replaces the job as a whole, but it means that software engineers without a profound underlining knowledge will be thrown out to the garbage bin.
We don't need to slow down AI development, we need to speed it up so they become so much like us that they _also_ zone out and get distracted by other things.
I always see people sneering at how AI could never do their job and therefore they are safe, but AI doesn’t have to do a person’s entire job in order to replace jobs. If it can do just 10% of 100 people’s jobs then it can and will replace 10 jobs.
It’s an OpenAI powered agent. In other words, it’s a bot that has access to a browser, an editor, a terminal, your system, and it has no brakes. Imagine having an ai built system that suddenly without any input from you. If you’ve used ai deeply in a project to solve a problem, you’ll know that’s a disaster waiting to happen because it’s actively harmful to the development process. This won’t replace us until literal ASI is here because it’s going to cost more to run the LLM than it will be to hire a team of developers. Use LLMs for what they’re good for now: slightly more intelligent autocomplete that lets you avoid writing boilerplate and repetitive API code.
all of this seems reasonable until you remember that you can't trust any output from these things and you have to pay two guys to go over it again with a fine-tooth comb
But speeding up real developers is also a concern because it still means less hours and less jobs. As long as we exist in a system that cares more about cutting costs than maintaining stability and safety for people, then these 'productivity advancements' will only make the employee and consumer's lives worse I think AI is really cool. I've always been a big fan of AI tech updates. I would love AI tools if we lived in a society that could use them to make cool tools without companies cutting workforces and costing people their ability to have a home and feed themselves, but that is not what we live in. As long as we live in an employment and employability-based society, these advancements will not be good for anyone who doesn't own a substantial company
You know that non tech people don't dare to touch the AI. Prompt engineering will just be another programming language. The hype is similar to the reaction to Assembly "it's human readable, anyone can code now. This is the end for CS"
Greatest replacement for a team of programmers is a team of programming interns atleast that's what company thinks till they have to rehire taht all knowing senior dev with 10 times salaary hike which is greater than salary of whole team combined.
I just heard about this reluctancy to use a debugger today and now I hear about it here. What's the deal with that? I survive and thrive on using the debugger
Time to learn some construction stuff ( Worker Robots starting to do manual labor ) Time to learn how to cook ( Chef Robots leveled up ) Time to learn some accounting and stuff ( Bro i subbed to Aİ accountant ) Time to do prost.. ( New VR enhanced Neuro Link connected pocket pus...) Dam what im going to do
Hi I am a asspring class 12 (high school last year) student I was thinking of taking coding as my future career but this will either a great tool or a show stoper for my career . any tips . 😢😢😢😢
If you actually use it, or even watch the 2 minute videos they put out, such as the upwork one… Devon doesn’t do anything they say it does. Just look at the actual coding… as for debugging… it causes the simple problems and then “solves” them… nobody is losing their jobs here boys…
All they say is "It won't replace you but increase your productivity"... Until when? We're already reaching a point where all the productivity isn't really us. Developers become less valuable when anyone can learn to use the AI
Don't worry. Make sure to keep up to date with newest AI tools. Also use the AI to do your tasks for you. If the AI cannot do some tasks, then it means you will still be useful in software industry.
@@aroundtheworld6584two options: computer technician, or AI tools integrator or consultant. like me I like using Stable Diffusion open source AI art generator or RVC AI voice converter.
I like your optimism saying that its a productivity boost , but as an AI researcher i can tell you humans are completely replaceable. Wait for the upcoming AI researches to see the light of the day
I'm afraid af, man. I'm studying for a software engineer ATM and it is my passion. I love solving problems, learning something new... I just want to do my thing and not be replaced by this or similar type of model, man. it's so bad.
The only way to combat AI is with changing licenses in open source projects. Need to specify that it cannot be used for AI training. I do currently use Chat GPT for some things, and Im not worried about the current AI, but I am worried what will come in the future.
Imagine I finally get out of school and get a programming job only for an AI to take it and then my city floods because of climate change I love the future
You can tell how junior someone is by how much they freak out about this. Devin is just VC bait. It's impressive sure, but give it an actual problem with substance and it falls apart. All these companies are just trying to capitalize on the AI craze that will die in a few years
I just hate how it is called devin. If it was called gpt 7 or sora of something like that I would be fine. But devin, that is a relatively common name.
if real coders lose their jobs to automation everyone will lose their jobs since everything will be automated. saying AI will replace coding doesnt make any sense.
Lol even an ai doesn't want to use a debugger
😂
I actually like debugging.
Learn it right , and you will never regret
@@rafael.aloizio1769there is no “right”. In 99% of cases a quick print / log gives me all the info I need to know. Usually just an “ok” to know it’s reaching that code. It’s simple, does the job, and is much more efficient than using a debugger
@@BoostedFABy printing "lol"? Cuz that's actually what I do.
Imagine being fired before getting a job
This. I feel it's junior dev positions that at risk the most here. Senior and even middle devs will still be needed to architect projects and supervise their completion.
@@miloradowicz(me in a CS degree path) haha, I'm in danger
I'm finishing my internship in 7 months but i feel like i will get back at McDonald's asap 😭
@@amumuisalivedatcom8567 maybe McDonald will have its own AI bartenders (fired mate)
@@GldnClaw I'm very interested in computer hardware and software. This month my high school was completed and preparing to join college for C.S in this June-july. But after watching Devin idk what will happen in next 3 years of my course 😭
Calculator never replaced mathematicians
Technology in general replaces humans. Most people used to work in agriculture, but most of them have been fired because of machines and chemicals that made human work obsolete. Those people never said "technology is great, it allows us to work faster". They just said "ok I lost my job, I'll go to the city and try to find a job in another field if I can".
it's a tool
@@brinckausort of. The tools used in agriculture means that there could be more farmers per farm, which speeds up the process. If anything, technology furthers society by making tedious/repetitive tasks done by computers. That way, all the sophisticated stuff can be done by humans. The thing society fails to neglect, is that the more people that DONT have jobs, the less capitalism thrives. In other words, corporations will die because they want to be cheap lmao.
@@AngelofD000M Corporations don't only want to be cheap, they have to be cheap.
Let's say you have a company that produces glass bottles, and don't care about being cheap. You make your glass bottles like in the 18th century, i.e. by hand, one by one. You need 1 hour to make one bottle, when your competitors use robots and need 1 minute to make one bottle.
What will happen to you? You will have to sell each bottle for at least $20, when your competitors will be able to sell them for $0.30. Nobody will want to pay 60 times more for the same thing. Your company will go bankrupt.
You have to increase productivity all the time, you have no choice. Because there is competition.
You will have to use robots. You will have to fire the workers that make glass bottles by hand. They will have to find a new job elsewhere. And when they find it, the same thing will happen again to them.
Of course, this phenomenon can't go on forever. There will be and end. When? Actually, it happened in the 1970s (when computers started to generate an insane rise in productivity everywhere). But we have found a way to delay the collapse using debt. The debt of all countries combined grows at a rate of approximately $100,000... per second.
Hence the inflation (that exists since the 1970s, even though people talk more about it now). More debt = less real money. Less real money = more fake money. And the fake money has no value. So $1 now is worth less than what it was worth in the past. Which means that things are more expensive.
$100,000 per second, and there are 31,536,000 seconds in one year. It won't last long, that's for sure.
But it's nobody's fault. There is absolutely no way of doing otherwise. Except of course to produce things not to sell them, but to use them. Then, you don't care about your job in the software engineering field, as long as the society as a whole can produce enough food (which it can, of course, easily, because the productivity is unbelievably high).
@@AngelofD000M Basically, in the past, 90% of people were farmers. Nowadays, only 2%.
It's the same in every field. To produce nails, in the past, you needed to make them by hand, by hitting molten metal with a hammer, one by one. One person could only produce a few hundreds or thousands nails per day. Today, a robots can produce a thousand nails in a few seconds. That's why you can buy bags of 10,000 nails for a few dollars.
If you try to produce nails like in the past, will your company succeed? No, because your nails will be thousands of times more expensive, and nobody will buy them.
So, it's not a matter of choice. You HAVE to increase productivity as much as you can.
People are becoming more and more obsolete. Therefore, we have to create new products all the time (computer, then smartphones, then smartwatches, then smartglasses, etc.), so there are enough jobs for everybody. It's never ending. Actually, it's not never-ending, because there are physical limits. Those limits have been reached already, so the end is near.
I love that we live in an economic system that makes the working class absolutely terrified of any innovation that is created...
What do you suggest we do?
@@brinckau the problems comes from the fact that our means of survival are privately owned, if they weren't (and for most of humanity's history they haven't been) we would welcome technologies that allows us all to work less
@@HairEEck Like in communism? It has been tried and has always failed. Because they were still doing the same thing: to produce things in order to... get rid of them and get money in exchange.
Publicly or privately owned, if what you do is the same thing (to make money), then you will have the same problems.
For example, if you are surrounded by shops full of food, but don't have money, then you will starve. Because the food is produced to be sold, not to be eaten directly.
Therefore, you need to find a job to earn money, so you can access the food. Which means that to get food, you need to produce the food + something else that is not needed in itself.
Then the technology evolves, and this other things that is not needed in itself costs less and less. And therefore, generates less and less money. Which implies that you now have to produce food + this useless thing + another new thing, to compensate for the loss of money due to the productivity increase brought by technology.
So basically, you need to produce more and more, and more, and more, etc. Why do you think they needed nuclear plants in USSR? Because like us, they also needed infinite exponential growth. Which can't be sustained for a long time.
@@HairEEck I wrote a reply to your comment, and UA-cam rejected it. Probably because of some AI thinking it was inappropriate. Maybe adding a positive vibe to my comment will help: I want more love and more peace in this world, I love CodingWithLewis videos, they are so great, I learn so much, the content is fantastic, and I agree with you about everything, my friend. Life is beautiful, I love flowers, and I'm so happy.
So, now, my comment.
The difference between past societies and ours is that nowadays, we produce money. Even when our means of survival aren't privately owned.
And when you produce money, you need exponential growth. Why do you think they needed nuclear plants in USSR? Because they needed exponential growth, just like us.
And infinite exponential growth can't be sustained for long.
Suppose that you produce something. Then you have so much technology that you don't need humans at all to produce this thing. Like air. You don't need somebody to produce the air that you're breathing. The consequence of this is that the air is free. You can't make money by selling it. No matter whether the means of production are private or public. It's pointless. You have free air, but when you will go to a shop in order to buy food, they will tell you: "We don't care about your air, we want money, otherwise you can't have some food". But you don't have money, because your productivity is so high (thanks to technology) that what you produce is free (or, in reality, almost free, so you have some money, but almost nothing).
@@HairEEck So, you produce something that has no value anymore. Which means that you have to produce something else. But the same thing will happen. Technology, more productivity, decrease of the amount of money created. Etc.
You basically need infinite growth, and it has nothing to do with who owns the means of production. It has to do with the fact that what you are producing is actually money. The material thing that you produce is just an excuse to get your salary. The salary is your real goal. At the end of the day, you go home with your salary, not with the goods that you have produced.
Senior Software engineer: heh people😂
Com sci major: i'm cooked
Me who just completed highschool and preparing to take C.S course:-
😥😨😰😭
Same bro 😢 except I'm a junior@@computerscience1101
Same bro
@@computerscience1101GOAT! check out Ultralearning by scott young & obsidian for taking notes, and you’ll be unbelievably golden
Devin is not spelled correctly.
AI on replit sometimes scares the shit out of me by not only being able to understand my code, but being able to understand my intensions even when i fail to.
Our jobs are safe, in order for management to use this they'd have to figure out how to provide clear direction
This!!
this apply to all fields. I'm an illustrator / designer and my clients all know about AI and how to use it (Tech field) yet they still call me to explain in a very confused way what they want.
Exactly 😂😂
LOL
Even some people still ask about how to see their child browser history😂
AI: Dev-in
Coders: Dev-out
copycat
@@mpty2022 sorry but that is copied, so stfu
Zoning out during stand up is a must have feature
I have the pro feature
Im human Software Engineer.
fired
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@@CodingWithLewis😭😭😭
@@CodingWithLewis nahhh 💀
AI first software engineer: Devin
Me: Devout
1st wave of cuts: junior devs; mid levels learn how to use AI Dev
2nd wave of cuts: mid levels; seniors use AI Dev
3rd wave of cuts: senior devs; leads and managers learn how to use AI Dev
Left after dust settles: a few senior level devs (that become basically prompt engineers for AI Dev) and management
using a debuger❌
using print statements✅
If you have creativity then this can help you build anything you want and fine-tune and add things....
I was just having a productive day as an unpaid dev this morning until I saw a dude named Devin. Just started playing Apex
Devin doesn't play Apex yet so you are good
Literally bro I was tryna land a coding job before college but I guess that ain’t working out anymore ☠️☠️
and Devin STILL Needs to be coached into the right solutions.
@@UnknownUnknown-uq5rv it’s been 50 years of ai dev man, lol.
@@UnknownUnknown-uq5rv that is just not correct.
@@UnknownUnknown-uq5rv it is true that large language models have changed the industry a bit, but the best part even that technology was known about circa 10 years ago.
@@LanceBryantGrigg This, 4 is just a refinement of GPT-2 itself
What I can imagine is syntax becoming obsolete to write and learn. Mostly at least. Instead people can write programs giving natural language statements. Like "Create a List 'Items' and make a call to this endpoint to fill the List". And an AI writes the stuff in probably a very low level language.
You still need to know what to do and where though and that's really the hard part about it
I think writing a prompt to describe a for loop in natural language takes longer than just writing it by hand.
@@kyoai not for a layman
You can already functionally do this with imperative coding.
what an AI image generator was to visual artists (photographers illustrators etc) but it's more effective and targeted at the techbros and also sane people in that field (which i will hopefully be joining soon)
Anyone hiring? Devin replaced me
Contact me for Starbucks jobs
Do you also can work in germany
Learn to weld..
I guess let's do some construction work then
Omw
Imagine getting laid off, and seeing Devin show up while you're trying to get rehired.
Ai is a replacement in the sense that companies might need less developers. But hopefully there is an equal increase in projects to compensate.
Excel did replaced humans. All productivity tools do replace humans in some way. Tasks that required 3 people in the past, now only need 2
"Woo Blender is such an useful application, it'll definitely take all the Graphic designers' jobs"
It's not even close to how a normal programer programs it can't scale code, complex programs, etc
It's also not powerful
Also remember using it , you'll need extra help editing after generating
Claude 2 is cooked my guy
chatGPT sucks for generating code. Makes sense that it's easy to improve.
The problem with this is when a flaw that can be exploited is found, then Devin can be and will be used to exploit and spread the flaw faster.
Poor Pythagora getting looked over again.
also microwave oven replaced cooks
Devin is here to replace all of us? Your short gave me an idea to make one as well.
In all honesty, how long do you think before we actually are replaced?
It’s a tool, however, the way of building code is still fairly difficult, I personally am to fix that.
Not the first one, the first Marketed one with a unified UI .
I love how you now need to be a senior when coming out of college if you want a job. The more tools like this there are the less junior jobs there will be
1 swe 99 fired 💔🔪
Yes.... even at a degree of precision of 99.99% means that (100 - 99.99 = 0.01 => 0.01 * 10000 = 100 ) This means that one out of 10000 tasks it will crash and someone will have to come to fix it. This means that you will need someone to fix the issue, so I don't see it as something that replaces the job as a whole, but it means that software engineers without a profound underlining knowledge will be thrown out to the garbage bin.
You mean this reality's first release AI software engineer! ..bro it will replace everyone in no time. ,mark my words
Every year I became more anxious for my job opportunity. Currently in my final year of Comp sci major too😭
We don't need to slow down AI development, we need to speed it up so they become so much like us that they _also_ zone out and get distracted by other things.
Now can we pls get an AI that accurately helps out with educations, assignments, etc.
Imagine in a year devin 2.0 being able to solve 90% of all open issues and then every peogrammer goes gangsta
This content is gold! Keep up the good work.
The machines rose from the ashes of the nuclear fire. Their war to exterminate mankind had raged for decades 😂😂😂😂
I always see people sneering at how AI could never do their job and therefore they are safe, but AI doesn’t have to do a person’s entire job in order to replace jobs. If it can do just 10% of 100 people’s jobs then it can and will replace 10 jobs.
I'm still a high school student 🥲 and I want to persue a computer science major. Now I won't find a job 😭
Oversaturated af. Why would you want to major in it? Major in something like electrical engineering and go into power engineering
@@xeta-p4u😓idk man... I don't really know a lot about electrical engineering ☹️ I don't know what to do now 😭
become computer technician man
@@xeta-p4u because they follow their passion, not money it provides
@@hoangthaibaonguyen2241 no one’s passion is that in high school
But if you can complete tasks way faster, that would mean you need less people to finish a project in the same time.
If i create a product called Paul New Data Scientist, i will raise over USD 10 millions for sure. It is all about marketing.
It’s an OpenAI powered agent. In other words, it’s a bot that has access to a browser, an editor, a terminal, your system, and it has no brakes. Imagine having an ai built system that suddenly without any input from you. If you’ve used ai deeply in a project to solve a problem, you’ll know that’s a disaster waiting to happen because it’s actively harmful to the development process. This won’t replace us until literal ASI is here because it’s going to cost more to run the LLM than it will be to hire a team of developers. Use LLMs for what they’re good for now: slightly more intelligent autocomplete that lets you avoid writing boilerplate and repetitive API code.
Chat Gpt was resistant the other day to commenting on code properly 😂
Devin sounds a little too good to be true but it’s possible
Devin can be a good friend🎉
I didn't even know about this!
It was a joke
So now we need to shift from software engineers to prompt engineers? 😂
all of this seems reasonable until you remember that you can't trust any output from these things and you have to pay two guys to go over it again with a fine-tooth comb
I think it's even funnier when human programmers call themselves software "engineers" when they are just hacking garbage together 95% of the time
What will happen is that level 1 programming job will require 10 years of experiences...
But speeding up real developers is also a concern because it still means less hours and less jobs. As long as we exist in a system that cares more about cutting costs than maintaining stability and safety for people, then these 'productivity advancements' will only make the employee and consumer's lives worse
I think AI is really cool. I've always been a big fan of AI tech updates. I would love AI tools if we lived in a society that could use them to make cool tools without companies cutting workforces and costing people their ability to have a home and feed themselves, but that is not what we live in.
As long as we live in an employment and employability-based society, these advancements will not be good for anyone who doesn't own a substantial company
Dev In
Dev Out
It might make the pay lower tho to be a software engineer because how much easier it would be
May be my real destiny was to be a fire fighter 🤕🤕
I am genuinely asking this I am currently learning python do I have to keep going or what? please answer
You know that non tech people don't dare to touch the AI. Prompt engineering will just be another programming language. The hype is similar to the reaction to Assembly "it's human readable, anyone can code now. This is the end for CS"
This.
I think you meant the reaction to C
this is just a new abstraction layer on top of high level programming language, so mo need ot worry we dev will co-exist with AI dev
Greatest replacement for a team of programmers is a team of programming interns atleast that's what company thinks till they have to rehire taht all knowing senior dev with 10 times salaary hike which is greater than salary of whole team combined.
I just heard about this reluctancy to use a debugger today and now I hear about it here. What's the deal with that? I survive and thrive on using the debugger
Time to learn some construction stuff ( Worker Robots starting to do manual labor )
Time to learn how to cook ( Chef Robots leveled up )
Time to learn some accounting and stuff ( Bro i subbed to Aİ accountant )
Time to do prost.. ( New VR enhanced Neuro Link connected pocket pus...)
Dam what im going to do
Hi I am a asspring class 12 (high school last year) student I was thinking of taking coding as my future career but this will either a great tool or a show stoper for my career . any tips . 😢😢😢😢
Nice, this will ensure the junior devs of today will never be as good as the seniors of today.
I can be a project manager and a software developer at the same time with x1.5 wage
dont diss me your name is lewis
If you actually use it, or even watch the 2 minute videos they put out, such as the upwork one… Devon doesn’t do anything they say it does. Just look at the actual coding… as for debugging… it causes the simple problems and then “solves” them… nobody is losing their jobs here boys…
Devin will get fired after revealing Devin is sentient.
All they say is "It won't replace you but increase your productivity"...
Until when? We're already reaching a point where all the productivity isn't really us. Developers become less valuable when anyone can learn to use the AI
I should change my major..
Got access?
I joined the industry and the the end of software development has come ☠️
I've straight up quit learning and am just learning the parts that I want for my own projects
Will Devin _pair program_ with Satal
Not true actually; that is the first claim that was picked up by social media. There is another one out there for months already
Corporate greed knows no bounds😢
Except its fake, there was a real person behind this screen recording
that is the core problem, u say this is missing and they create a company out of it,
As a 1st year cs student, how would you suggest me to proceed forward?
Yeah you're good. Devin's chill
Don't worry. Make sure to keep up to date with newest AI tools. Also use the AI to do your tasks for you. If the AI cannot do some tasks, then it means you will still be useful in software industry.
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like me I like using Stable Diffusion open source AI art generator or RVC AI voice converter.
I like your optimism saying that its a productivity boost , but as an AI researcher i can tell you humans are completely replaceable. Wait for the upcoming AI researches to see the light of the day
داریم اینجا زحمت میکشیم ...
I'm afraid af, man. I'm studying for a software engineer ATM and it is my passion. I love solving problems, learning something new... I just want to do my thing and not be replaced by this or similar type of model, man. it's so bad.
Use the AI to give you solutions. Learn from the AI. If there is some tasks that AI can't do then that is what you are useful for.
Should I continue my degree in cs?😢
Oh. For God's sake. I am looking for a job and now this happens. I guess I will never enter the market. 😢
If people are so afraid of AI... Why not team up and take it down...
It's not Devin actually it's devchat
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Ahh I want to hear your cursing.
What is a debugger though? 🤔
The only way to combat AI is with changing licenses in open source projects.
Need to specify that it cannot be used for AI training.
I do currently use Chat GPT for some things, and Im not worried about the current AI, but I am worried what will come in the future.
I literally hate this with my whole being.
Totally agree
Imagine I finally get out of school and get a programming job only for an AI to take it and then my city floods because of climate change I love the future
Can Ai write a Cobol program?
You can tell how junior someone is by how much they freak out about this. Devin is just VC bait. It's impressive sure, but give it an actual problem with substance and it falls apart. All these companies are just trying to capitalize on the AI craze that will die in a few years
I just hate how it is called devin. If it was called gpt 7 or sora of something like that I would be fine. But devin, that is a relatively common name.
😂 Just take a look at the website
Overhyped, the first company that relies completely on Devin will be hacked because of all the vulnerable code it produces. 😂
I just hope it won't talk about memory managment to minors since this would be highly unethical after all
Kinda throws a huge wrench into my dreams. I don't want to use an AI to program. It'll just make me lazy. It's lame.
How can it do like XCode
if real coders lose their jobs to automation everyone will lose their jobs since everything will be automated. saying AI will replace coding doesnt make any sense.