That Ben Simmons segment got progressively more hilarious as it went on. "And you can bet Philadelphia has this kid in the gym shooting the basketball around the clock" is just incredible
i don’t know how much credit to give though considering they also put ayton and mpj in from the same draft class - feels more like they were riding the hype wave (though people were so down on trae that I do think that was a pretty bold take)
Pleaseeee do your own predictions for five years from now with the TTW guys. Maybe in the off season. Would be so fun to watch back. It’s crazy how unpredictable the NBA really is
If you look back on it, it’s crazy how Ben Simmons went from having the highest potential, highest ceiling out of any young star in the league 5 years ago to now being one of the biggest bums in the league 😂, crazy how fast and sudden his falloff was.
@@elijahwood6299 I mean he can playmake and defend the perimeter at en elite level which most bigs can’t. He’s like a bigger and more athletic Draymond.
I was so high on Aaron Gordon this year as well. He'd improved consistently every year and looked like after that year he'd finally take the major jump with his shooting and athleticism coming together, but he's stayed about the same.
He is having his best season yet this year. He never reached that star player, but is a high quality role-player talent and even had some all-star buzz this season which is something a lot of guys never reach.
Honestly, as a Nuggets fan, I always loved AG at Orlando, so I was over the moon when he came over. Seriously think he's slept on this season. Been so solid.
Steph’s game is reliant on stamina/agility, and KD’s injury history looks like a phone book. It wouldnt have been a mystery if theyd fallen off by 34 years of age.
@@amman3k971 I could understand lebron a little more since he relies a lot of his athleticism. Idk if most people expected him to basically not decline athletically at age 38😂
I think people underestimate the longevity of certain stars. Take Bron, KD, Curry, Lillard, Butler, kyrie, harden, butler, PG13, Kawhi, etc.: these guys were all stars around the time this was written and are still mostly top 20 guys. It’s not easy to take over those already at the top!
Having Jokic at 11 is a great call by them. Based on everything we know about basketball, that SHOULD be his absolute ceiling. But the man has just defied the laws of logic, nature, physics, athleticism, thermodynamics, whatever laws you can think of, to become the best player in the NBA. At least in my opinion. I can see arguments for Giannis too. Maybe Doncic. But Jokic is the truth.
With the way LeBron was going during the 2018 season, its crazy to predict that he'd be out of the top 20, even more so being retired. Everybody knew he was gonna play well into his 40s
Hey Kenny, I've been a supporter for awhile now and have thought of a ton of video ideas, but for some reason never build up the courage to comment them. This video gave me an idea for another possible fun vid. I think you should make your own list of 10-20 players you think will be the top players in the league in 5 years or so. Let me know what you think, and thank you so much for putting out great content almost everyday in at least one of your channels to keep us all entertained throughout the day. I'm always excited for your new uploads and I know so many others are as well. I hope you realize the impact you have on your supporters. Have a great one Kenny. -Jack
they really underestimated all the vets we have that still play at a top 20 level such as dame, kyrie, harden, pg, jimmy, kd, steph, bron and maybe kawhi? this era of basketball we’ve had is really special
Even last season, us Kings fans were saying that we should trade Harrison Barnes for Ben Simmons for the star power. Apparently the Nets wanted a lot more for Ben than we were willing to give up. Fast forward one year and they're looking to salary dump his contract. Oh how the turns table! Btw, that game you were watching was INSANE. Loved seeing Kyrie vs De-Aaron in the 4th and OT. I don't know if my heart could take a Kings-Mavs 7 game series
You should do a rebuilding challenge where if you trade for somebody, you're not allowed to trade them away. Ever trade is important because you can't flip anybody, you can only lose them for nothing if they weren't a part of the original roster
Aaron Gordon is averaging 17/7/3 on a ridiculous 63.3% eFG. He has the 33rd best PER and the 32nd best BPM this year on the #1 team in the west. He's definitely a top 40 player, maybe a top 30 this year.
I feel like lists like this always overestimate how much turnover there is going to be in the best players in the world. Obviously it wouldnt be too fun to just list everyone who was good then, but Durant, Steph, Lebron, Harden, Dame, Butler, and PG were all-nba that year, it's weird to assume they would all fall off
I thought kenny was a industry plant like how is he everywhere now I see Bruh got bout 27 channels excluding the pod 👏🏾👏🏾 real motivation ngl consistency is scary
lol i can understand leaving out bron because who coulda predicted he'd still be elite but i feel like everyone knew in 2018 that steph and kd would still be balling in 2023
Steven adams has been my favorite player years. Nice to see others giving him some recognition. The problem with Steven is he is so selfless on the court. He could definitely have better stats, but he plays for the team, not himself.
The list looked like it was like the best of the under-25 players in the league today in five years. LeBron, KD, Steph, Kyrie etc. Are all missing. But in all honesty the league is so talented right now that you could take any roster in the league and there is at least one player on it who you could argue belongs on this list... The depth of the entire league is so crazy... Literally half the teams think they got a shot at the title and there are no clear cut favorites to win it all.
Lowkey except for curry there is nothing the ringer hates more than black, ball dominant guards. Most of them called jimmy a team cancer around this time too
@@samuelgehm5149 33. And yeah, with his conditioning and his drive, I have no doubt he's still going to be dominating the NBA in 5 years. I can see him being like 2018 Lebron. If he isn't still #1 he'll at the very least be top 5
@@chase6943 Yeah but KD and Steph's games transcend age. Giannis's does not. I believe he'll be a top 5-10 player in the league in 5 years but not the best
I refuse to believe that in 2018 this man thought that in 5 years Kyle Kuzma, Steven Adams and Aaron Gordon would be better than guys like Bron, Steph, KD, Harden and Kawhi. To not even have them on the list is crazy as hell 😂😂😂.
I honestly feel like mpj could make this list if he could stay healthy. A 6’ 8” forward who can shoot the lights out and drive really well on a team like the nuggets could go far.
If you exclude players drafted after 2018, and players that are now 34 and over (historically there’s a drop off there but evidently guys like curry and KD are hooping) then this list is p decent
A list like this is bound to fail from the get go due to no one being bold enough to bet that a player not drafted yet could end up top 20. Like a Ja or a Zion
Steven Adams is underrated by casuals cos ppl only like points. Rebounds is the 2nd most important stat in basketball, and he's been an elite rebounder for his entire career basically. If you play 4 or 5, you know how good Adams is.
A lot of it is hindsight 20/20. There is a difference between a player with legit potential not panning out the way as expected (like with Simmons) or just being plain simply wrong with a dumb prediction, even at the time.
Embiid is better than jokic, only thing jokic is better than embiid is playmaking, but a center dont rlly need that. As a mavs fan embiid was def robbed of mvp last year
That Ben Simmons segment got progressively more hilarious as it went on. "And you can bet Philadelphia has this kid in the gym shooting the basketball around the clock" is just incredible
Ben Simmons' mind is really messed up right now. Get that boy some psychologist.
@@mikeyang3684 I think he’s got one
and yet still one of the most impactful players lmao dont let social media fool you
@@jesseshell4222 are u talking previous seasons ben or current ben
@@jesseshell4222 dude not this season man legitimately just turns around and looks to pass when it’s a one on one fast break
This article missed a lot but it’s still hella impressive to predict Trae and Luka so be this high on the list even before their rookie seasons
Facts they missed Shai tho😂 tbf he wasn’t expected to be that good
i don’t know how much credit to give though considering they also put ayton and mpj in from the same draft class - feels more like they were riding the hype wave (though people were so down on trae that I do think that was a pretty bold take)
They predicted way too many young guys and not the already proven stars
@@SpicyMapping i mean clearly not too many people since he still went top 5
i meant the public not people in the league
Shoutout to the Wizards for having three Top 20 guys on their roster right now!
The Wizards GM read this article for sure
🤣😂🤣😂
nuggets have 3 too
Pleaseeee do your own predictions for five years from now with the TTW guys. Maybe in the off season. Would be so fun to watch back. It’s crazy how unpredictable the NBA really is
You got Instagram?
@@howIegendsaremade the rizzler
Yes please
@@xxqoa what can I say🤷♂️🤷♂️
@Dawg they use it as a distraction just like the Superbowl but NBA basketball goes too hard not to keep after the downfall
If you look back on it, it’s crazy how Ben Simmons went from having the highest potential, highest ceiling out of any young star in the league 5 years ago to now being one of the biggest bums in the league 😂, crazy how fast and sudden his falloff was.
Facts nothing more than a big with handles
@@elijahwood6299
I mean he can playmake and defend the perimeter at en elite level which most bigs can’t. He’s like a bigger and more athletic Draymond.
I call myself the Ben Simmons of trumpet
terrible work ethic. what a waste of size
They hated on Giannis for Ben especially Stephen A
Lebron, Curry, and Durant being left off is criminal
Nk harden either or kyrie. Do you consider them too 20? I’d say so
@@nathanjohnson6525 Dame as well
I’m pretty sure this list was for players like under 25 or something cause there’s nobody on the whole list that was already a all time Great
@@rewstir6646 No... it's because normally people dont expect players to still be top 20 when they're 34+ years old
@@freshc9240 idk I feel like most people would probably expect the best shooter of all time or a 7 foot demigod to be pretty good when they’re 34
Who else is waiting for the Brooklyn Nets series?
Facts
Everyone
he started it the other day
Me 😂
Came to comment this
I was so high on Aaron Gordon this year as well. He'd improved consistently every year and looked like after that year he'd finally take the major jump with his shooting and athleticism coming together, but he's stayed about the same.
He's been mid all his career, sucks because his physical capabilities can easily put him to star level
He is having his best season yet this year. He never reached that star player, but is a high quality role-player talent and even had some all-star buzz this season which is something a lot of guys never reach.
Honestly, as a Nuggets fan, I always loved AG at Orlando, so I was over the moon when he came over. Seriously think he's slept on this season. Been so solid.
AG been a monster this season. A super important piece of the nuggets game.
I know it’s hard to make lists like this but not having Steph or Kd in the top 20 is egregious. Even if it was 5 years in the future.
Even Lebron man, people overvalue ‘potential’ too much
@@amman3k971 idk if leaving LeBron out was really that egregious given what most players his age are like.
Steph’s game is reliant on stamina/agility, and KD’s injury history looks like a phone book. It wouldnt have been a mystery if theyd fallen off by 34 years of age.
@@amman3k971 everyone else in his draft class has been retired for half a decade 💀 wym
@@amman3k971 I could understand lebron a little more since he relies a lot of his athleticism. Idk if most people expected him to basically not decline athletically at age 38😂
I think people underestimate the longevity of certain stars. Take Bron, KD, Curry, Lillard, Butler, kyrie, harden, butler, PG13, Kawhi, etc.: these guys were all stars around the time this was written and are still mostly top 20 guys. It’s not easy to take over those already at the top!
Gotta remember, I’m 2018, the idea of someone being 34+ years old and still being a top 20 player was crazy. Now, it’s common place
*top 10
Having Jokic at 11 is a great call by them. Based on everything we know about basketball, that SHOULD be his absolute ceiling. But the man has just defied the laws of logic, nature, physics, athleticism, thermodynamics, whatever laws you can think of, to become the best player in the NBA. At least in my opinion. I can see arguments for Giannis too. Maybe Doncic. But Jokic is the truth.
With the way LeBron was going during the 2018 season, its crazy to predict that he'd be out of the top 20, even more so being retired. Everybody knew he was gonna play well into his 40s
nah nobody thought he was just not going to have any athleticism dropoff at all 5 years later
Hey Kenny, I've been a supporter for awhile now and have thought of a ton of video ideas, but for some reason never build up the courage to comment them. This video gave me an idea for another possible fun vid. I think you should make your own list of 10-20 players you think will be the top players in the league in 5 years or so. Let me know what you think, and thank you so much for putting out great content almost everyday in at least one of your channels to keep us all entertained throughout the day. I'm always excited for your new uploads and I know so many others are as well. I hope you realize the impact you have on your supporters. Have a great one Kenny. -Jack
FINALLY someone acknowledging that the Grizz slid coincides with Adams being hurt. Thank you!!!
they really underestimated all the vets we have that still play at a top 20 level such as dame, kyrie, harden, pg, jimmy, kd, steph, bron and maybe kawhi? this era of basketball we’ve had is really special
Even last season, us Kings fans were saying that we should trade Harrison Barnes for Ben Simmons for the star power. Apparently the Nets wanted a lot more for Ben than we were willing to give up. Fast forward one year and they're looking to salary dump his contract. Oh how the turns table!
Btw, that game you were watching was INSANE. Loved seeing Kyrie vs De-Aaron in the 4th and OT. I don't know if my heart could take a Kings-Mavs 7 game series
I mean Ben still got time….. 😂
I mean China has a few basketball teams to choose from
You should do a rebuilding challenge where if you trade for somebody, you're not allowed to trade them away. Ever trade is important because you can't flip anybody, you can only lose them for nothing if they weren't a part of the original roster
Wrong channel buddy
@@bingoelue12 Not really. Still a chance the right man sees it
Crazy that he predicted Jaylen Brown would be top 20 when he was only averaging 14 a game with Boston.
nah everyone back then knew Brown and Tatum were the future, i was for sure expecting a Boston dynasty
Aaron Gordon is averaging 17/7/3 on a ridiculous 63.3% eFG. He has the 33rd best PER and the 32nd best BPM this year on the #1 team in the west.
He's definitely a top 40 player, maybe a top 30 this year.
I feel like lists like this always overestimate how much turnover there is going to be in the best players in the world. Obviously it wouldnt be too fun to just list everyone who was good then, but Durant, Steph, Lebron, Harden, Dame, Butler, and PG were all-nba that year, it's weird to assume they would all fall off
Butler and pg arent top 20 This year
@@tyyyy5733 I guess not but PG is still an all star and there’s not 20 guys I’d rather have in the playoffs than Jimmy
According to this dude, Steven Adams was going to be averaging 18, 13, and 1.5-2 blocks a game in 2023 😂😂
Lol rebs and blocks were possible but pts are way off
I love the reaction to the Ben Simmons part. When Kenny said he would do one of these, I thought he was going to make his own top 20 list for 2028.
Nothing like watching a Kenny vid as soon as you wake up.
Damn at 1 o clock
on a monday
I’m fried asf cracking up at the Ben Simmons part😂😂😂This man Kenny is hilarious
after the nba season is over Through The Wire needs to do a top 25 prediction for the next 5 years
Dude I swear this list just expected every player over 28 to suddenly be terrible😂
10:19 "this was written in 2008" Kenny's good for one of those Kerfuffle's per video.
Honestly the biggest problem with this article is that almost all theses guys are 28 or younger when an NBA players prime usually 26-32 (roughly).
As a Wizards fan I wish this list would have been accurate we’d be loaded 😂
You gotta make a top 20 5 years from now so we can see how many W's you would have
Those predictions were pretty good for the most part. Bold to put Jokic, luka, and Trae do high
Bron, Curry, KD, Kai, Kawhi being off is crazy
Kenny reading the Ben Simmons description had me crying 😭😭 we all thought that too about Ben that’s the craziest part
I thought kenny was a industry plant like how is he everywhere now I see Bruh got bout 27 channels excluding the pod 👏🏾👏🏾 real motivation ngl consistency is scary
Jokic if forsure the best center in the league
the writer took like 7 straight Ws
Kenny is the Michael Jordan of UA-cam
hey kenny, i would appreciate more if you could zoom in the page when do that kind of articles. great video bro ❤️
There’s almost no one on this list that is in their 30s now and that’s where he went wrong
This could be a cool KOT4Q vid. Adjust 2k overalls so these are actually the top 20 players
I watched the tip dunk too!!!🎉🎉
lol i can understand leaving out bron because who coulda predicted he'd still be elite but i feel like everyone knew in 2018 that steph and kd would still be balling in 2023
Steven adams has been my favorite player years. Nice to see others giving him some recognition. The problem with Steven is he is so selfless on the court. He could definitely have better stats, but he plays for the team, not himself.
KennyToo vids hit diff
U haven’t even watched for 2 mins
@@mikeydunn3519 dont tell me what I've done lil bro
Bros a time traveler
The list looked like it was like the best of the under-25 players in the league today in five years. LeBron, KD, Steph, Kyrie etc. Are all missing. But in all honesty the league is so talented right now that you could take any roster in the league and there is at least one player on it who you could argue belongs on this list... The depth of the entire league is so crazy... Literally half the teams think they got a shot at the title and there are no clear cut favorites to win it all.
I would love to see you do this in the offseason, then we can look back in 2028 and see how good they were
They explained Lebron, but where is Steph, KD, Kawhi, Dame, Harden, Kyrie, Jimmy, PG13?
Lowkey except for curry there is nothing the ringer hates more than black, ball dominant guards. Most of them called jimmy a team cancer around this time too
Imagine putting Aaron Gordon over a 30 year old Kyrie Irving
Kenny please make your own top 20 in 5 years list, just for the hell of it
Kenny, you got to do one of these man. Who cares if it’s wrong honestly-it would be a lot of fun to look back at it 5 years down the line.
1. Giannis
2. Luka
3. Tatum
4. Jokic
5. Zion
6. Banchero
7. Ja
8. Halliburton
9. Ant
10. Booker
11. Mitchell
12. JJJ
13. Shai
14. Poole
15. Franz
16. Cunningham
17. Jalen Green
18. Mobley
19. Garland
20. Ayton
@@freshc9240 34 yo Giannis? Idk about that
@@samuelgehm5149 33. And yeah, with his conditioning and his drive, I have no doubt he's still going to be dominating the NBA in 5 years. I can see him being like 2018 Lebron. If he isn't still #1 he'll at the very least be top 5
@@samuelgehm5149 thats exactly what this article did lol didn't you learn? They left off Steph KD and Lebron bc being 34+ and Giannis is gonna be 33
@@chase6943 Yeah but KD and Steph's games transcend age. Giannis's does not. I believe he'll be a top 5-10 player in the league in 5 years but not the best
Lonzo and Kuzma was wild even at the time 😂😂😂 Kristaps doesnt even make sense
That Porzingis pick was crazy looking back from this year
1-10 was alot better than 11-20 that upper end of the top 10 was kinda accurate for 5 ish years
“Ben Simmons is one jump shot away.” Why do I feel like I’ve been hearing that exact phrase for like 5 years?
I refuse to believe that in 2018 this man thought that in 5 years Kyle Kuzma, Steven Adams and Aaron Gordon would be better than guys like Bron, Steph, KD, Harden and Kawhi. To not even have them on the list is crazy as hell 😂😂😂.
I honestly feel like mpj could make this list if he could stay healthy. A 6’ 8” forward who can shoot the lights out and drive really well on a team like the nuggets could go far.
Porzingis is balling his year, he's not 9 not even 20 but arguably top 30 rejuvenated himself in Washington
I love these prediction videos
100%, I think you should do predictions like this Kenny.
Y’all gotta make one of these on the pod, including players who aren’t in the league yet
Would love to see more of these
The LeBron statement is crazy lmao it's insane how good he is still
Kenny can never remember that Bradley Beal hasn’t won a scoring title
Giannis looking crazy in that thumbnail I'm ngl
Lol as a Kiwi just seeing Adams mentioned in something like that is pretty cool. Too bad his ceiling wasn't just a little bit higher.
Getting number 1 right was a good pull for the author
why was every player a younger player? did they really think older stars in 2018 like steph, kd, russ, harden etc would really fall off that quick?
That’s what I was saying, they accounted for no one that’d be in their 30s
Seriously though. This dude thought curry was going to forget how to shoot in five years?
This article really disregarded longevity of players. No Dame, Harden, Steph, KD, Kawhi, and LeBron at all is INSANE
I had Simmons and embied winning a chip back then how wrong I was 😅
This list just tells me we had a lot of next-ups that didn't bloom like we thought they would.
kenny you the 🐐
When Kenny does one of these I am curious on how high he will put Wembemyama
That’s crazy. No KD, no bron, no steph, no dame, no kawhi, no kyrie 😂
Did u ever react to TTW Clips of your own predictions?
imagine telling this person in 2018 that bradley beal kristaps and kuz would b on the same team
Top players in the NBA in 2028 predictions:
1. 2k's version of Luka Doncic
2. Victor Wembanyama
3. 43-year-old Lebron James still hooping
It’s shocking that harden doesn’t even get mentioned despite being the MVP of the league when this came out
Gonna need that new nets video soon
No Steph, no LeBron, no KD, no kawhi, no pg, no kyrie, all top 20 players. I know it was 5 years ago but damn this list was a huge L
It’s crazy how Ben Simmons was literally supposed to be Lebron 2.0 and a demigod goat years ago
Adams had he been utilized by Billy Donovan more he would’ve been the top center of the class below Joel and Jokic
Dudes really thought guys like Bron, KD, and Steph would just disappear.
Karl Anthony towns should be a top 12 player but for some reason he just doesn't have that dog in him.
I still think he's underrated though
I feel like some of those missed by ignoring injuries, like mpj, porzings and lonzo. All injury prone players before the list was made
If you exclude players drafted after 2018, and players that are now 34 and over (historically there’s a drop off there but evidently guys like curry and KD are hooping) then this list is p decent
Although predicting that harden wouldn’t be a top 20 player 5 years after his MVP season is a bit wild imo
A list like this is bound to fail from the get go due to no one being bold enough to bet that a player not drafted yet could end up top 20. Like a Ja or a Zion
They could have went safe and put KD, Lebron, Steph and kyrie in but have to give props for going for some actual predictions
u should go back to old 2k rebuild videos to see how did the game predict the 2023 year or just hop in old games and simulate
We wanna see you do one of these
Steven Adams is underrated by casuals cos ppl only like points. Rebounds is the 2nd most important stat in basketball, and he's been an elite rebounder for his entire career basically. If you play 4 or 5, you know how good Adams is.
They hated on Giannis for Ben especially Stephen A
“Please bro just let him work on his jumper in the off-season please bro he’ll be like lebron cmon bro he’s up next bro”
luv u kenny 💟
aaron gordon over lebron is fair
A lot of it is hindsight 20/20. There is a difference between a player with legit potential not panning out the way as expected (like with Simmons) or just being plain simply wrong with a dumb prediction, even at the time.
Embiid is better than jokic, only thing jokic is better than embiid is playmaking, but a center dont rlly need that. As a mavs fan embiid was def robbed of mvp last year
all we wanted was the nets series
You should make a video predicting what it will be in 5 years