How to integrate Yamaha MONTAGE and MODX with Logic Pro X

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  • @TyreLee
    @TyreLee 9 місяців тому +1

    Three years after this post it is the most helpful and informative tutorial I've yet seen on this subject, and I don't have logic but I do have a MoDX But wow this is so useful.

  • @bobloomis246
    @bobloomis246 Рік тому +1

    You're a genius dude! I have struggled with this for years getting my Montage and LPX to work using midi! Never could find a complete explanation of both of these together. Thanks a million1

  • @IMRANnet
    @IMRANnet Рік тому +1

    What a great tutorial. At 230 am here I saw 35 minutes duration and figured oh I will watch it another day. But so glad I started. Every minute of it was educational. And it refreshed so much info for me plus learned so much more. QQ: I would love to know if you have something to help me use my Yamaha MOXF8 and MODX8 together (and simultaneously if needed) with my MacBook Pro and Logic. Thanks!

    • @KierDarby
      @KierDarby  Рік тому

      Thank you! You may be interested to know that I have recorded an updated and improved series of videos on this subject, which you can view here:
      New playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLZ-i_cDvzKZlxlk9Ygg230lMr2L3sKDrw.html
      Regarding using your MOXF8 and MODX8 together, am I right in thinking that the MOXF has a USB audio interface, like the MODX? If so, I would suggest that you create an Aggregate (audio) Device in Audio MIDI Setup containing both the MOXF and the MODX, then tell Logic to use that for both input and output. You can then create MIDI tracks pointing to either the MIDI port of either device and monitor the audio separately. My newly-updated Aggregate Device video should help you on your way with this:
      Aggregate Device: ua-cam.com/video/owTz8S69rBM/v-deo.html

  • @magdalini1459
    @magdalini1459 2 роки тому

    I have watched several videos and searched multiple message boards and found my solution here. THANK YOU!

  • @isbjorn64
    @isbjorn64 4 роки тому +6

    On the MODX: if you want to record not more than 4 stereo track in the Logic, you can go into the Yamaha performance, choose one parts of the performance and click in the name of the part, than click edit, and you can chose one of the port output USB1+2, USB3+4 and so on for the rest tracks/parts.
    In the Logic however, the first input1+2 is for the main input from the MODX, so start with input3+4 in the Logic for the USB1+2 in the MODX and so on. This way you can record the audio from each part/track at once, you dont have to waist your time to record the tracks individualy. Hope everybody is understand, my native language is not english. =)

    • @lampmanpaul7459
      @lampmanpaul7459 4 роки тому

      I’m using an MODX8 connected with 1 usb cable. I can record my midi tracks ok but problem is I don’t have an option to select inputs 3+4 5+6 etc when I try to record them to audio. . I only have options for 1+2. If I check my midi connection in utilities before launching logic I can see the modx connected. When I launch logic it seems to be removing the usb connection because when I check again in midi devices on Mac the modx is gone just leaving the Mac mini internal speakers and hdmi monitor visible. I’ve uninstalled the driver and installed it again. Still the same. It’s really frustrating and I’m spending so much time at it and getting no where.

    • @johnlesliemusic6402
      @johnlesliemusic6402 3 роки тому +2

      @@lampmanpaul7459 just Change your first instrument on the modx

  • @robskis4boys
    @robskis4boys 11 місяців тому

    Fantastic job EXCEPT you left me wanting more. Lol Like how to save to library, after pro logic alterations? Peace

  • @chariwick
    @chariwick 3 роки тому

    Thanks dude. I had let my MODX gather dust since it felt a bit too complicated to use. Now it's back in operation.

  • @johnlesliemusic6402
    @johnlesliemusic6402 3 роки тому +2

    Actually For an updated version in 2021
    Just record an a track and then record it to audio and delete the midi. And keep doing that and you’ll have separate tracks in their own place so you can mix and master effectively within Logic. Especially if you have different instruments like piano and drum hypothetically you could record the piano record it to audio and then use the same track and switch to a drum kit within montage with no problem I learned this a few hours ago.

  • @cdot803
    @cdot803 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this video man! I know how to use my modx with my MPC one. I was having trouble using it with Logic until I watched this for the 3rd time.

  • @RaddMann3
    @RaddMann3 4 роки тому

    I’m going to be hooking up a Yamaha Clavinova soon. This gave me some idea of what I’ll be facing with Logic. Thanks.

  • @Sandile_Mavimbela
    @Sandile_Mavimbela Рік тому

    Such a great video thanks, might sound silly but I wonder if can we also use the modx/montage faders as organ faders on logic

    • @KierDarby
      @KierDarby  Рік тому

      In plug-in mode through the DAW remote you should be able to map the faders to drawbars on organ software instruments that support MIDI mapping, or if not you could probably map them to Logic’s auto-mapped smart controls I suspect.

    • @KierDarby
      @KierDarby  Рік тому

      Use of plugin mode is covered in more depth in my updated video on the subject:
      ua-cam.com/video/pT-4i1Is_gE/v-deo.html

  • @sunilmishra7529
    @sunilmishra7529 4 роки тому +2

    Best tutorial I have seen in a long long time. Bravo! Do you have other tutorials?

  •  2 роки тому

    When I choose Midi rec on DAW UNDER the quick setup, the keyboard image on top is not turning grey. I did everything like you explained I couldnt pass that part. Am I missing something? Any help?

  • @Neverine78
    @Neverine78 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for posting this, was extremely informative!

  • @Bragino
    @Bragino 3 роки тому +1

    Kier - Thank you for making videos on this topic of Montage and Logic. There doesn’t seem to be another resource for this arrangement anywhere on the web.
    Although I’ve learned a lot by watching these videos on Montage and Logic I’m still running into issues setting up my workflow.
    Let me know if I can hire you to help coach me through my setup. I’m more than happy to compensate you for your assistance.

  • @carlosvinueza8733
    @carlosvinueza8733 4 роки тому

    21:52 I thought that Montage would record that performance in multitrack but, It just recorded channel 6. By the way, this tutorial is gold. Thanks for sharing us that amazing ideas

  • @ivanspage
    @ivanspage 4 роки тому

    Thank you! The video is great! The only issue I have is that I cannot solo a single midi channel to record an audio. I tried to solo it in different ways, but every time it solos all the midi channels from the same instrument. Even if I mute the regions on the other midi channels, it still sounds as a whole. Didn’t find any info on this one in the net. Thanks for help!

  • @C.Faysal
    @C.Faysal 2 роки тому +1

    Hey thank you for the nice video. I have 2 questions i need help with please.
    1. What do i need Midi Studio for?
    2. How do i turn montage connect online? Mine appears offline and choosing an instrument from the library runs into an internal error :(
    Thank you

    • @ground-mister-y8993
      @ground-mister-y8993 Рік тому

      I had the same problem but it seems we have to switch to "MIDI Rec on DAW" (on the Montage keyboard itself) to set the Montage Connect software to "Onlie". You can find it in the video at 4:28. Hope this helps!

  • @turtlefeet7722
    @turtlefeet7722 Рік тому

    Great video, thanks. what a great tool for recording.

  • @rogersalles200
    @rogersalles200 2 роки тому

    I just got the montage and still can`t get it connected to my Logic, I watched the Blake Angelo tutorials and he shows the set up a lot different and simpler but it won`t work for me, is your tutorial an older version of the set up, is there an easier way to integrate the Montage with Logic for 2022? Thanks for the tutorial, you explain it very well.

    • @thegoldenamerican
      @thegoldenamerican 2 роки тому

      I’m having the same exact issue so you are probably when I’m using Mac M1 … I can get some tracks to record but not separately

  • @liothomasart
    @liothomasart 4 роки тому +1

    So dope, great video ! I need to watch it again.

  • @geoffstanton8538
    @geoffstanton8538 Рік тому

    Great video - thank you so much! WHere did you get that American Beauty patch from ? !!!

    • @KierDarby
      @KierDarby  Рік тому

      The American Beauty patch originates from the Motif XF - it's part of the bank you can download from Yamaha to bring in all the old XF voices to the Montage/MODX

    • @geoffstanton8538
      @geoffstanton8538 Рік тому +1

      Got it! Thanks so mnuch for taking the time to respond...

  • @15Serge
    @15Serge 4 роки тому

    Excellent, very logical step by step explanation!!!

  • @golightlyproject
    @golightlyproject 3 роки тому

    Many thanks!!! Big ups and again, greatfull for the video and time.
    I had heard Bad Mister from Yamaha mention that data could be edited and returned into the Yamaha, would you happen to know how any of this is done?
    Like.... create a midi stream that sends info back to individual parts in the Montage?
    Basically I can not separate midi I upload into the montage....
    thanks again man

  • @dedkeyboards
    @dedkeyboards 2 роки тому

    Hi Kier, Well I tried to setup the midi and everything you've instructed to do, but it actually came out backwards, the MODX port makes the sound but no levels and the AUDIO doesn't even have the audio bar level move, there is no sound from the audio... What is going on?

  • @artnelsoncreative
    @artnelsoncreative 2 роки тому

    I followed your directions, but when I initiate an audio track for the MODX, it does not come up in Logic Pro X as a possible choice. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

  • @samuelmaylor6634
    @samuelmaylor6634 4 роки тому

    Good vid and informative, wondering if you have something similar for the motif xf8 or would this somewhat apply to my board??.. thanks

  • @cfloratos
    @cfloratos 3 роки тому

    The best tutorial for the subject!!!

  • @TahianaOfficialTV
    @TahianaOfficialTV 3 роки тому

    Thanks ! I’ve followed your tutorial step by step but once I launch the record, it doesn’t take simultaneously the midi and the audio recording…is there anything I could have missed?

  • @AdityaAnkur
    @AdityaAnkur Рік тому

    15 min
    I have an issue. I don't have separate midi tracks option in logic, I'm recording piano with 4 tracks in it but piano roll has single green color. Not different color like urs

  • @bahaasadak3661
    @bahaasadak3661 3 роки тому

    Thank you for such a great and informative video.

  • @ROGCX703
    @ROGCX703 3 роки тому

    Very good job ! But many might ask, that they just want to record the MODX sounds on different tracks. (and make them sound according to the selected Performance on the MODX)
    So e.g track 1 I want a piano, track 2 a bass, Track 3 a pad. It just seems to happen that when you select a performance on the MODX, this applies to all tracks in logic. What is the trick ? Must be so simple but I just don't get it....

    • @darrenhirst9900
      @darrenhirst9900 2 роки тому

      You have eight slots in the modx 1-8 and you choose an instrument for each slot.
      To get you daw to play each instrument separately on midi you have eight midi outs with channel 1-8.
      Modx 1 = piano
      Midi channel 1 = piano
      Mod2 2 bass
      Midi channel 2 = bass
      And that's all you do.

  • @bfnmusic2517
    @bfnmusic2517 3 роки тому

    Thanks!! for some reason i can only hear what i have recorded when i press play, but not while recording? sure its a small issue wich i can't see, but i am an absolute noob at this.

  • @ground-mister-y8993
    @ground-mister-y8993 Рік тому

    Thank you, but, where Midi Studio is? I can't remember and can't seem to find it after updating my Mac (OS 12) and Montage Connect to the latest version... :(

    • @KierDarby
      @KierDarby  Рік тому +1

      MIDI Studio is part of Audio MIDI Setup on the Mac - you can find it in Applications/Utilities/Audio/Audio MIDI Setup

    • @ground-mister-y8993
      @ground-mister-y8993 Рік тому +1

      @@KierDarby Thank you. :D

  • @hovhannesjulfayan5424
    @hovhannesjulfayan5424 3 роки тому

    Cane you do the same things with Yamaha PSR 540?

  • @frederic1019
    @frederic1019 3 роки тому

    This was really, really helpful, thanks!

  • @scottduff3486
    @scottduff3486 2 роки тому

    6.53 - when I try to set the audio track's input to modx mainL/R there's nothing there :(

  • @WesnChristynEthan
    @WesnChristynEthan 4 роки тому

    So I have been able to replicate everything done here. And thank you for all of that. However, I am not using a separate audio interface or second audio interface. With that said, can someone explain how they have their settings for using a guitar through the ad input of the montage? I am able to get signal and record. However, if I add fx via biasfx vst those fx are added to all channels.

  • @WesnChristynEthan
    @WesnChristynEthan 3 роки тому

    I see that your transients are very thin. I have this issue as well. Normal?

  • @raymondzwarts
    @raymondzwarts Рік тому

    I must be missing something @kierdarby but sometimes recording Arpeggios work, sometimes they dont (on MODX6 plus). What am I missing (using Logic Pro as a DAW). Any help is much appreciated. Recording normal MIDI works. I've setup LPro with 16 seperate midi channels, but looking at the midi events I am not seeing any notes coming in when the ARP is on.

    • @KierDarby
      @KierDarby  3 місяці тому

      Check your MIDI settings on the MODX - arpeggios won’t output any data if you are in SINGLE mode, make sure you have it set to MULTI MIDI channels.

  • @mikelplateromaranon465
    @mikelplateromaranon465 3 роки тому

    There is a problem in MODX....THE DESTINATION PORTS OF DE MODX HAS NOT THE "ALL" SELECTION. ONLY PARTS SEPARATELY!!! FROM 1 to 16

  • @venuslori
    @venuslori 3 роки тому +2

    When I try to choose the MODX Port 1 on Logic there is not an option for All :(

    • @docwatson7785
      @docwatson7785 3 роки тому +1

      Does anyone have the answer for this? I have same problem

    • @johnlesliemusic6402
      @johnlesliemusic6402 3 роки тому

      Try Channel 3 for some weird reason that’s where the sounds Start. make sure the output is correct on the 1 and 2

    • @darrenhirst9900
      @darrenhirst9900 2 роки тому

      In midi settings you have midi in and out and that's where you choose modx-1 ports.
      In your daw add a midi channel and it will be under there the channel and all settings.

  • @advers-cg
    @advers-cg 3 роки тому

    Hi. Can I somehow turn off internal MODX effects that will be apply to DAW while recording audio from midi? I want to record “dry” sound and then add some effects (reverb, delay, eq and other) by Logic only to make normal mixdown. Thanx. Happy new year and regards from Russia.

    • @darrenhirst9900
      @darrenhirst9900 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/c8F3ldWleSs/v-deo.html might help.

    • @darrenhirst9900
      @darrenhirst9900 2 роки тому

      Touch effects on modx screen then turn off effects.

  • @modxmike7608
    @modxmike7608 4 роки тому

    I pretty much have the gist of this now. The only problem I'm having is when I try to record a different instrument, it plays the former instrument I've already recorded on the new track.

    • @Charlyaraya
      @Charlyaraya 4 роки тому

      Try turning off "external instrument" button on the other tracks

    • @darrenhirst9900
      @darrenhirst9900 2 роки тому

      The instruments on the modx will be on their own channels so its just a case of setting midi in your daw the same.
      Piano channel one modx piano channel one in daw.
      Bass channel 2 modx bass channel 2 daw.

  • @KierDarby
    @KierDarby  Рік тому

    Just a note to say that an updated guide that supersedes this video is now available here: Yamaha MONTAGE and MODX with Logic Pro X (2023)
    ua-cam.com/play/PLZ-i_cDvzKZlxlk9Ygg230lMr2L3sKDrw.html

  • @abcabc4283
    @abcabc4283 4 роки тому

    Hi there, thanks for the tutorial but I was wondering why there’s no ‘all’ option in my midi destination ? It only allows me to pick a port :( help me

    • @semassich
      @semassich 3 роки тому +1

      Just found it! You need to enable Advanced Tools in Preferences.

  • @trulyronson
    @trulyronson Рік тому

    When setting up an external midi instrument, MODX is not recognized or listed in the drop-down.

    • @KierDarby
      @KierDarby  Рік тому

      Things to check:
      1. MODX is connected to your computer via USB
      2. You have the correct Yamaha Steinberg USB driver installed
      3. MODX appears in Audio MIDI Setup / MIDI Studio
      If all of this is done, the MODX should appear in Logic - if it doesn't appear in MIDI Studio, something else is going wrong.

  • @ThatDevOpsKid
    @ThatDevOpsKid 4 роки тому

    Good work bro 🙌🏽

  • @modxmike7608
    @modxmike7608 4 роки тому

    Thanks SO MUCH!!!!! I’m following the video, but when I play the audition, my screen keeps getting bigger and smaller on my computer. Like it’s reading the MODX as a typewriter. It’s REALLY getting on my last nerve!!!!! UGH!!!!!!!

    • @KierDarby
      @KierDarby  4 роки тому +1

      Michael Harris which window is changing size - the entire Logic window?

    • @KierDarby
      @KierDarby  4 роки тому

      When it resizes, does it jump between different states?

    • @modxmike7608
      @modxmike7608 4 роки тому

      Kier Darby the entire Logic window resizes. Depending on which key is pressed, it will go back. 🎹

    • @KierDarby
      @KierDarby  4 роки тому

      Michael Harris do you have anything set up under the Control Surfaces system in Logic?

    • @modxmike7608
      @modxmike7608 4 роки тому

      Kier Darby Behringer X Touch

  • @StageShout
    @StageShout 3 роки тому

    Have A Montage 8 - Setup exactly as explained and doesn't work. No audio coming from speakers. Using Apollo Twin Duo interface. Also, how does this affect software instruments when you want to use virtual instruments?
    Noticed #1 - Quick Setup change to MIDI REC on DAW - Does not stick. It reverts back to Standalone on its own. Cant get it to stay on Midi Rec on Daw. Even if stored.
    Number 2 - Does local stay on - or off. I have mine OFF
    No audio comes out no matter what I do.

    • @darrenhirst9900
      @darrenhirst9900 2 роки тому

      It doesn't revert back.
      Choose it and look at the diagram where it moves to too then close it and go back and you will see its still in the same place.
      Plug your monitors into the modx and choose Yamaha Steinberg driver. Audio from your daw will come through the speakers and vice versa.

  • @JohnLeslie4
    @JohnLeslie4 2 роки тому

    On logic for me it only records to audio but there is no midi being shown

  • @louishauger3057
    @louishauger3057 2 роки тому

    What if I want to use an audio interface?

  • @oscardecena2804
    @oscardecena2804 3 роки тому

    it's possible in Yamaha moXF6?

  • @88omarz
    @88omarz 3 роки тому

    Thanks so much this is awesome.

  • @goluiajohnson2310
    @goluiajohnson2310 2 роки тому

    Hello! I've been having this strange issue with the MODX as a midi board. When I open the piano roll every note is trippled. Has anyone else seen this?

    • @KierDarby
      @KierDarby  3 місяці тому

      This could be an effect of leaving LOCAL CONTROL enabled

  • @trenillo
    @trenillo 3 роки тому

    Why would you record your tracks one at a time when you could have just recorded them all separately at the same time? Makes no since. 🤔

  • @msaito36
    @msaito36 4 роки тому

    Very wonderful!!!🎼🎹🎶💙💐

  • @BSBT
    @BSBT 4 роки тому

    thank you !!

  • @erikfox8471
    @erikfox8471 3 роки тому

    pls explain how to sync the arpeggios with logic x 10.6.1 from modx..i have tried everything it wont sync...regards

    • @darrenhirst9900
      @darrenhirst9900 3 роки тому

      I think you just need to turn clock out off on the modx so your Logic x can control the arps.
      Its under Midi IO.

    • @erikfox8471
      @erikfox8471 3 роки тому +1

      @@darrenhirst9900 thanks a lot...regards

  • @trulyronson
    @trulyronson Рік тому

    Not sure what I am doing wrong?
    I am following every step and becoming very frustrated.

  • @areyesvs
    @areyesvs 3 роки тому

    Good!!!!! Muy bueno!!!

  • @bullzeyebeats
    @bullzeyebeats 4 роки тому

    Is it possible to use MODX, use it´s instruments on different Logic Tracks, and save, and when you reset the project; does it automatically load the used different Modx soundbanks? Or is it entirely based on audio recording from the MODX? In other words, all sounds that you want to use needs to be rec as audio to different audio tracks in logic? please answer.

    • @KierDarby
      @KierDarby  4 роки тому

      That’s a complex question with various ways to answer.
      Firstly, the MODX Connect plugin will restore all the performance settings of the MODX when you load in the project, so as far as loading in the correct sound banks when you load or reset the project, that’s totally covered.
      I’m not 100% sure what you mean about the audio tracks, but if you consider that the main transmission format is MIDI, you don’t strictly need the audio routing through Logic at all until your project is all but finished and you want to apply Logic effects to MODX audio tracks.

    • @bullzeyebeats
      @bullzeyebeats 4 роки тому

      Kier Darby let’s say, I’m making a beat. I use a piano from modx, and a drumset from modx. I record a drum loop and a piano loop. When I rec the piano, do I have to, or am I forced to rec it as a audio file? That was question number one. Question two is following. Let’s say for instance that I recorded these piano and drum performances and save the project. Next time I load the project, as far as I saved the settings on modx connect, everything will load automatically, did I get it right? Thanks for the answer, really appreciate since I’m in the process of maybe buying the modx. My concern is, is it as easy to use as other vsts? I want the benefit of not having to install all vst soundbanks every time, and at the same time I don’t want to compromise with the workflow. Had a Korg M3 years ago, and I was pissed of because of the workflow and that I needed to rec all presets as audio files to each track.

    • @KierDarby
      @KierDarby  4 роки тому

      @@bullzeyebeats you can treat the MODX like a VST using MODX Connect. Let's say you set up the MODX with a piano and a drum kit in a performance, then record the MIDI output from those instruments into Logic, then to get those performances back in a year's time, all you need to do is have the MODX connected while you load the project in Logic, everything else is done for you. If you want to play back the project *without* the MODX connected, you'd obviously need to have recorded the audio output. Does that answer your question?

    • @KierDarby
      @KierDarby  4 роки тому

      Regarding your Korg workflow issues, once you know how it all hangs together, I think Yamaha have done a great job of simplifying DAW workflow with Montage/MODX Connect - the ability to have all your performance settings stored with the DAW project is a real life saver.

    • @KierDarby
      @KierDarby  4 роки тому

      See the video here for more details: ua-cam.com/video/jghQGR1ts0E/v-deo.html

  • @johnlesliemusic6402
    @johnlesliemusic6402 3 роки тому

    Every track I recorded has all the instruments playing when soloed

  • @JohnLeslie4
    @JohnLeslie4 2 роки тому

    I really need help