@fvgbe342 The day of simply designed mechs was around the 70's and 80's. And for the record, Transformers are giant robots, mecha are piloted. I personally like the designs of Japanese mechs, they are not bound by realism. Thus making full use of creativity.
The interesting thing about Gaiking and GGG units is that their series skill (Flame and Bravery respectively) are almost identical, if not mirrors of each other. GGGG and ZA GURETO in one game... it would be too much awesome.
If GGGG’s return in SRW30 is anything to go by, keep holding on to your dreams. Maybe it might happen in a future game. And I, for one, definitely want to see this dude again.
And just now, I remembered the Wing Zero Custom. All the wings do is do the same thing as the TV version, store the Twin Buster Rifles (IIRC), and give Gundam modelers the world over a splitting headache. But watching it spread its wings like an avenging angel when activated in Endless Waltz? Ohhhhh, HELL YES. Practical? Nah. Awesome? Yeah. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what all mecha fans are there to see. Awesome stuff.
If you couldn't identify Optimus Prime, who was a hero figure to children from the 80's, and has had a spot on television in one Transformers show or another constantly for something like over a decade then really.. you've been living under a rock.
Honestly, only a few rare mech-based productions don't have stylizing in one form or another? Did Mazinger Z need heat sinks that formed an iconic crest on it's chest? No. Was it bleeding awesome? Yup. And Real-types aren't immune. I have two words for you: 00 Raiser. Why the **** did it need the giant binders attached to the GN Drives? Awesome factor. Also, IMO, the most underdesigned mech out there would be the Scopedog. It's also the most realistic out of a plethora of mech designs.
That boy has proven hinself worthy of being a honorary brave in spirit(as in the braves saga of the 90s) Hell the kid lifted a city land mass easily the size of manhatten island out of a exploding super volcano He gsve his all vhanneling his will passion and spirit into the effort supercharging gaiking the great well and beyond its limits ifthe super robots natural operational ability .001 percent courGe is 100 percent assured victory folks He could very well be the choosen successor to the legendary king of braves people hes that awesome
So very much this. The RX-78-2 GUNDAM is so iconic a design anyone with even the most cursory of mecha knowledge recognizes it instantly despite, or maybe because of, its simplicity. It has been the template for over 30 years of Gundams and still stands out amongst them. The same cannot be said about Optimus Prime who I only recognize due to this weird fascination the internet seems to have with him. Consider Getter 1 - Simple as all hell but still detailed enough that no incarnation is the same
The episodes 1-8 were a little meh at best, but Good lord, how many likeable characters are in this series pretty much a well around series. Obviously aimed to kids. "Fight! Fight along side the 47 flames of the Daiku-Mayru!"
This is overwhelmingly true. Mechs like the Scopedog, various Knightmare Frames, and the real-life Kuratas are awesome in their way, and fantastical machines like Gaiking, Gundam, and Mazinger are awesome in their way. So who gives a damn? Mecha anime 4 life, dudes!
This means we've got a very typical Super Robot hero against the single most sociopathic trio ever to grace the screen. Ryoma is bloodthirsty and lives to kick ass, Hayato is cold, calculating, and at times sadistic, while Benkei rounds out the trio with a down-to-earth perspective. And this is without factoring in the sheer adaptability of Shin Getter. Shin Getter 2 would make it a Mirror Match, being able to match Gaiking the Great's speed.
Fuck yeah gaiking the great is a honorary brave in my book The kids a honorary brave in spirit carrying on the legacy of the king of braves in real life
Oh my god. I just had this argument with my friend last week. I can't believe this argument was around three years ago. Can I take a moment to thank you all for this argument and discussion? Jus' sayin'.
There's also the fact of the two's teams. Daiya is a brave, headstrong, and resourceful kid, but depending on which Getter continuity we're pulling Shin Getter from (There's three, manga, Shin vs. Neo, and Armageddon), he's got a different kind of challenge. The manga team basically had no idea what they were doing, Shin vs. Neo was sadly inferior, so for convenience's sake I'll say this is the original team from Armageddon.
So on the subject of Gaiking the Great vs. Shin Getter Robo, here are my thoughts. Gaiking the Great boasts ridiculous speed and high defenses, while Shin Getter boasts high speed and almost unlimited offensive power. As for the Final Getter Tomahawk, it can ONLY be used while Shin Getter is being force-fed every Getter Ray on Earth by Shin Dragon. It also completely shorts out BOTH machines after use, meaning Ryoma had better not miss, which is quite likely given Gaiking the Great's speed.
There's no chance of it being used in a normal situation, however. Against Face Open: The Great, there's no chance of Genesic getting to the handle and connecting. The Great would have to be immobilized first, and preferably, they'd have to fight in space to effectively use the Crusher. I just don't feel that the Crusher is effective for anything -less- than Z-Master size. In a fair fight, Genesic has to rely on his own strength (Genesic vs. Palparepa Prajna).
You seem to forget that I prefaced all of those designs as belonging to "Real Robot" shows. In fact, Super Robots and Real Robots seem to have a pretty even split on space vs. ground (Fun fact: I heard somewhere that Yoshiyuki Tomino didn't want ANY part of the original Mobile Suit Gundam to happen on the ground, since the mechs are impractical for ground battle but were justified by in-universe physics as the best you can get for space combat.)
In the end, even without Shin Dragon, the win would go to the Getter Team. They've got the experience of years (as opposed to months), they've got absolutely no qualms ripping both Gaiking the Great and Daiya limb from limb if it's the only way to win, and they've got a robot that can change tactics on the fly, given his foes throughout the series, Daiya would simply not be ready for that. tl;dr answer: It'd be a hellacious fight to see, but I think I'd have to give the win to Shin Getter Robo.
Weren't those also justified as heat shields for reentry? In which case having movable wings would have been something to devote time and money to, because a heat shield that powerful is a great design idea.
Guys, guys. Let's not argue which is the strongest mecha here...besides, we all know who would've won. It's Getter Emperor, it's always Getter Emperor, the Mecha Elder God itself that can absorb anything. You throw a galaxy at it, you just made it even larger. EVERYTHING EXISTS WITHIN GETTER EMPEROR!
What part of 0% failure don't you guys get? that means 0% chance to screw with his chances of winning and 0% chance to reach him in time before his op version of breast fire melts you.
Remenber Go nagai's law of named Mecha Fights? "In any case Mech A vs Mech Mech B (vs Mech C, ets) said mecha will ether team up after minorly trashing each other or will be teammates from very beginning. Than they will kick someones ass in especially epic manner."
Transformers, like Voltron/Golion, are much bigger over in the Americas than they were in their country of origin. Optimus Prime and Voltron are important cultural icon to Americans.
A well thought out and interesting discussion about robot comparisons? ON UA-cam? Pinch me, I am dreaming. I'm personally going for a draw. Guy's ever-increasing G-Stone power and SHEER TENACITY is matched by Daiya's determination, ridiculous power multiplications and...SHEER TENACITY. Anything either threw at the other would just be withstood =p The Great is also a LOT faster than Genesic. Hell, even regular Gaiking goes into DBZ-blur regularly, so that would factor in.
I see, *rubs chin* you're probably right there. Aye, the manga/novel versions of anything tend to be much more OP than the anime versions, with a few exceptions but yeah.
Would you rather see a sci fi realistic robots... OR ONES MADE OF PURE AWESOME CAPABLE OF DOING IMPOSSIBLE FEATS! I dont know about you but I'll take the second any idea with all their amazing GIGA DRILLS Heaven and Hell and Goldion Hammers of awesome
Don't act like Genesic's only power is in the Goldion Crusher! That's a last-ditch weapon for highly selective situations. Genesic is strong enough with his bare hands! But it's a tough matchup. The Great is much more maneuverable than Genesic is, but Guy never, ever gives up- he went far enough as to pull the heavily outclassed, already wrecked GaoFighGar together with only his willpower and -kept fighting sans cockpit-. (Minding that it didn't last for too long after that, it's still amazing)
i love the genesic vs the great joke but genesic kicking the greats ass ? nah. they would be equally crazy breaking the world apart to kill each other. Genesic GaoGaiGar is known for power The Great. if you have seen the series has a enormously huge horse power on his back 0.o he can easily go left or right quickly. his power is tremendous. to many differences @.0 but this serie was awesome and stays awesome alongside GaoGaiGar series ^^
@geniusbob so... you're telling me robot designs such as the one you see in about any western movie involving robots, such as Transformers, Matrix, District 9, Terminator in average are actually LESS complex than Shin Getter Robo, Daiguard, Gurren-Lagann and Godannar alike? The only cases of giant robots having simple designs in western media I remember were Transformers, Go-bots, Orbots, OMF:2097 and Megas XLR, and those first 3 were based on japanese toys
@Geshpenst You should watch GaoGaiGar. There are some really tense moments where you don't really know whether or not Guy and co. can really pull out a victory.* This goes double for GaoGaiGar FINAL. (* Well, that is assuming you can temporarily shut off that part of your brain that says "It's a Super Robot Show! Of course he's going to win!" You have to be able to do that to enjoy anything in the genre, anyway, I think.)
@ArkRiley: "The Great would have to be immobilized first" And that is the first thing that happens on any successful execution of Hell And Heaven, so long as the opponent isn't G-Stone-powered. The question at that point would be whether GGGG could manage to pierce GTG's armor, which is admittedly iffy. Still, there's plenty of abilities that GGGG has aside from H&H and the Crusher. Furthermore, I don't think we ever saw GGGG at full speed; Gai was too sluggish to move it right at the time.
The normal Gaiking? Actually Shin on its own can fight it very well. if you are going to bring Great in, that is made from three mechs, so bringing in Shin Dragon is quite fair. Other than that, Shin is extremely fast, it is quite durable and it has three modes on its own, each with special abilities that can easily match Gaiking...I don't know exactly what you were watching, but they can match Gaiking no problem o.o
@haineko1101 "Still, there's plenty of abilities that GGGG has aside from H&H and the Crusher." Well, yes, that's why I mentioned Genesic fighting under his own strength, as against Palparepa Prajna. I don't think Genesic's top speed is all that higher than what we ever saw- Guy was at top strength when he fused and final fused into Genesic and he didn't start slowing down until Palparepa took the upper hand against him. I at least don't think it's on par with FOTG.
@ArmageddonV2 I just had a thought, is the motion blur the actual result of speed, or the end result of the desire to save money for the sake of staying within the budget requirements set forth? Just something to think about.
@jackmcslay No, not I'm not. But most Japanese robots are far more over designed. In addition to what I listed before, theres Gaogaigar, Later Gurren Laganns, almost any combiner from the brave series or the early 80s/70s, Strike Freedom, Dancouga, Gravion, etc... So I really don't see where you're coming from. A lot of Japanese robots have been over designed to hell and back(and while they're still awesome, they get pretty busy and over done).
Not necessarily. There are plenty of Gundams that are fantasical in design or power level (Most of the G Gundam cast, Destiny, Infinite Justice and Strike Freedom, 00 Raiser and 00 Qan[T], and of course, the Turn A). Would a feasible robot have a weapon capable of decimating whole cities? (Twin Buster Rifle, Satellite Cannon and Twin version, Raiser Sword and Quantum Buster Sword/Rifle) And let's not get STARTED on what Newtypes do to UC Gundams. I'm looking at you, Kamille and Banagher.
NUUU! AVARYTHANGS GOTTA BE REAL AND GRAY AND BROWN AND GRITTY AND WAAAAAAAAAA ...insulting Joke aside, I do agree. I really can't think of any Super Robot that I can honestly call Over-Designed....honestly, I think it's AMERICAN Robots that are overdesigned. Look at Michael Bay's transformers and Pacific Rim for PERFECT examples.
Only Shin would be able to fight them, with the power of the getter emperor behind it...Mazinger, even Mazinkaiser is nowhere near as ridiculous. He is quite balanced compared to Genesic and Great
Over designing do not equals detailed designs. For example Strike Freedom was overdesigned, while Unicorn and every mobile suit in Gundam UC had a highly detailed design. The detail level depends of the budget, and the level of animation technology. See for example the the original Armored Trooper Votoms, and the new OVA-s, like Shining Heresy, Phantom Arc, which featured the same simple designs , in far greater detail.
@ArmageddonV2 Everyone forgets something important here. Daiya and Guy fighting each other would be boring compared to them teaming up and fighting a greater enemy.
何という熱血！魂が震える…ロボアニメ好きならこの歌で燃えずに何に燃えるのか！！！！
That moment when the protagonist gain ultimate form of it mech and add new yet epic insert song from legendary singer
Villains are pissed off
That boy has the heart and soul of a honorary brave
As in the 90s braves anthology of transformer like super robot heroes
course he does, the va is luffy's va
This kid daiya be the heir to the king of braves people
Kids an honorary brave all the way
@fvgbe342
The day of simply designed mechs was around the 70's and 80's. And for the record, Transformers are giant robots, mecha are piloted.
I personally like the designs of Japanese mechs, they are not bound by realism. Thus making full use of creativity.
The interesting thing about Gaiking and GGG units is that their series skill (Flame and Bravery respectively) are almost identical, if not mirrors of each other.
GGGG and ZA GURETO in one game... it would be too much awesome.
Keep your faith brotha, if srw 30 keeps doing good maybe we could get a crossover between these two.
@@Kinev my thoughts exactly!
If GGGG’s return in SRW30 is anything to go by, keep holding on to your dreams. Maybe it might happen in a future game.
And I, for one, definitely want to see this dude again.
Gaiking the Great is near identical to GaoGaiGar. Gaiking even makes a sword out of metal pieces he pulled out similar to Volfogg.
And just now, I remembered the Wing Zero Custom. All the wings do is do the same thing as the TV version, store the Twin Buster Rifles (IIRC), and give Gundam modelers the world over a splitting headache.
But watching it spread its wings like an avenging angel when activated in Endless Waltz? Ohhhhh, HELL YES. Practical? Nah. Awesome? Yeah. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what all mecha fans are there to see. Awesome stuff.
If you couldn't identify Optimus Prime, who was a hero figure to children from the 80's, and has had a spot on television in one Transformers show or another constantly for something like over a decade then really.. you've been living under a rock.
Honestly, only a few rare mech-based productions don't have stylizing in one form or another? Did Mazinger Z need heat sinks that formed an iconic crest on it's chest? No. Was it bleeding awesome? Yup.
And Real-types aren't immune. I have two words for you: 00 Raiser. Why the **** did it need the giant binders attached to the GN Drives? Awesome factor. Also, IMO, the most underdesigned mech out there would be the Scopedog. It's also the most realistic out of a plethora of mech designs.
見よ！讃えよ！跪け！これがガイキング究極の姿!!
その名は、ガイキング・ザ・グレート!!!
Chou Kaen Gattai! Complete! Gaiking the Great!
*_GO!!!_*_ GaiKing The Great!!!_
Ah yes, the best gattai theme ever
マジンカイザー・真・ゲッターに次ぐ！ガンキング・ザ・グレート！最強無比の魔神！
いずれのスパロボシリーズでガイキング・ザ・グレート・真・ゲッター・マジンカイザー・マジンカイザーSKLの共演を是非！
後は、グレートゼオライマーとマジンエンペラーとマジンガーZERO・真ゲッタードラゴンも！
masa zom
鋼鉄神ジーグも入れて欲しいですね〜(ダイナミック感)
こんなのがいたら、世界が燃えてしまうよ！
１機で世界を壊せるマジンガーZEROさんが参戦してましたね〜
やみぃ・ザ・グレート
キズナアイ・ザ・グレート
the strength and power of a super robot is measured by how epic the opening is... XD
That and the spirit + the drive of its pilot
Cara que música incrível do Mestre Akira Kushida.
back when mecha show is just pure fun. just a simple good guys vs bad guys and nothing in between.
And add some epic songs
@@sanken21 now it's just deconstruction
I've been looking everywhere for this! Bless You!
That kid is an honorary brave all the way
Giganto Cross
Hydro Blazer
GIGA BURST
Hell yeah my man.
That boy has proven hinself worthy of being a honorary brave in spirit(as in the braves saga of the 90s)
Hell the kid lifted a city land mass easily the size of manhatten island out of a exploding super volcano
He gsve his all vhanneling his will passion and spirit into the effort supercharging gaiking the great well and beyond its limits ifthe super robots natural operational ability
.001 percent courGe is 100 percent assured victory folks
He could very well be the choosen successor to the legendary king of braves people hes that awesome
@@derekclay9314 Gaining doesn't need to be "an honorary brave" he already is in an every more honorable group of Mecha, a Dynamic Pro. mecha.
-stands there - let's go - activate a pannel - FACE OPEN THE GREAT!
A worthy successor to the king of braves
Gaiking predates 3G.
@@jesuscornstorm737 not this varient
ガイキングザグレート
このサビ、マジで燃える
This music is nice, I like this series very much, is the best that I ever seen!!!!!!!!!!
So very much this. The RX-78-2 GUNDAM is so iconic a design anyone with even the most cursory of mecha knowledge recognizes it instantly despite, or maybe because of, its simplicity. It has been the template for over 30 years of Gundams and still stands out amongst them. The same cannot be said about Optimus Prime who I only recognize due to this weird fascination the internet seems to have with him.
Consider Getter 1 - Simple as all hell but still detailed enough that no incarnation is the same
The episodes 1-8 were a little meh at best, but Good lord, how many likeable characters are in this series pretty much a well around series. Obviously aimed to kids.
"Fight! Fight along side the 47 flames of the Daiku-Mayru!"
@@gespenstmk-iii111 This show is aimed for kids but there are stuffs that's not appropriate for kids. That's why most parents shit on the show
Hasta el día de hoy este tema, y la escena donde sale viven en mi mente sin pagar renta.
WHO NEEDS WINGS
This is overwhelmingly true. Mechs like the Scopedog, various Knightmare Frames, and the real-life Kuratas are awesome in their way, and fantastical machines like Gaiking, Gundam, and Mazinger are awesome in their way. So who gives a damn? Mecha anime 4 life, dudes!
Even though im 8 years late i gonna agree the more mecha the better rather than the same design....
This means we've got a very typical Super Robot hero against the single most sociopathic trio ever to grace the screen. Ryoma is bloodthirsty and lives to kick ass, Hayato is cold, calculating, and at times sadistic, while Benkei rounds out the trio with a down-to-earth perspective. And this is without factoring in the sheer adaptability of Shin Getter. Shin Getter 2 would make it a Mirror Match, being able to match Gaiking the Great's speed.
God, this fucking slaps.
@MVGkaiser
Exactly. It's about the spirit behind the robot, and their actions in series.
... Yet the soul of the king of braves lives on .. - smiles - alright lets go ! HYDRO BLAZER GIGANTIE BURST !!
Fuck yeah gaiking the great is a honorary brave in my book
The kids a honorary brave in spirit carrying on the legacy of the king of braves in real life
Ever notice gaiking the great looks like a fusion of mazinger and gaogaigar?
@@derekclay9314 yep
@@millerlucerojames check out transformers galaxy force
For a transforners series The bots went full on braves in spirit and character
@@derekclay9314 already known that one
Oh my god. I just had this argument with my friend last week. I can't believe this argument was around three years ago. Can I take a moment to thank you all for this argument and discussion? Jus' sayin'.
日本よ、これがロボットアニメだ
There's also the fact of the two's teams. Daiya is a brave, headstrong, and resourceful kid, but depending on which Getter continuity we're pulling Shin Getter from (There's three, manga, Shin vs. Neo, and Armageddon), he's got a different kind of challenge. The manga team basically had no idea what they were doing, Shin vs. Neo was sadly inferior, so for convenience's sake I'll say this is the original team from Armageddon.
スパロボでカイザーノヴァとフェイスオープン・ザ・グレートが同じマップで解放されたら燃え死ぬ自信がある
真シャインスパークも解放されたら光輝く自信がある
So on the subject of Gaiking the Great vs. Shin Getter Robo, here are my thoughts. Gaiking the Great boasts ridiculous speed and high defenses, while Shin Getter boasts high speed and almost unlimited offensive power. As for the Final Getter Tomahawk, it can ONLY be used while Shin Getter is being force-fed every Getter Ray on Earth by Shin Dragon. It also completely shorts out BOTH machines after use, meaning Ryoma had better not miss, which is quite likely given Gaiking the Great's speed.
次回のスパロボシリーズで再登場希望ユニット。
ナイツアンドマジックのエル君。鼻血物ユニット
荒神伝説ガイキング・ザ・グレート。無双の魔神
There's no chance of it being used in a normal situation, however. Against Face Open: The Great, there's no chance of Genesic getting to the handle and connecting. The Great would have to be immobilized first, and preferably, they'd have to fight in space to effectively use the Crusher.
I just don't feel that the Crusher is effective for anything -less- than Z-Master size. In a fair fight, Genesic has to rely on his own strength (Genesic vs. Palparepa Prajna).
a new great history for a VERY GREAT LEGEND. GAIKING IT'S THE 1° GREAT OPERA OF GO NAGAI!
And the successor to the legendaryking of braves imho
You seem to forget that I prefaced all of those designs as belonging to "Real Robot" shows. In fact, Super Robots and Real Robots seem to have a pretty even split on space vs. ground (Fun fact: I heard somewhere that Yoshiyuki Tomino didn't want ANY part of the original Mobile Suit Gundam to happen on the ground, since the mechs are impractical for ground battle but were justified by in-universe physics as the best you can get for space combat.)
In the end, even without Shin Dragon, the win would go to the Getter Team. They've got the experience of years (as opposed to months), they've got absolutely no qualms ripping both Gaiking the Great and Daiya limb from limb if it's the only way to win, and they've got a robot that can change tactics on the fly, given his foes throughout the series, Daiya would simply not be ready for that.
tl;dr answer: It'd be a hellacious fight to see, but I think I'd have to give the win to Shin Getter Robo.
Hey Proist, was that really your best punch?
*If so, then I've already won.*
The only let down is that Gaikings pilot still has a child voice when he's fully grown.
Yeah but ye gotta admit: Apart from that, this gets your blood running!
Weren't those also justified as heat shields for reentry? In which case having movable wings would have been something to devote time and money to, because a heat shield that powerful is a great design idea.
Is it JUST me or does the guy who sings the theme song for Uchuu Keiji Gavan?
+Michael Saylor
Yep, same dude
Guys, guys. Let's not argue which is the strongest mecha here...besides, we all know who would've won. It's Getter Emperor, it's always Getter Emperor, the Mecha Elder God itself that can absorb anything. You throw a galaxy at it, you just made it even larger. EVERYTHING EXISTS WITHIN GETTER EMPEROR!
Psst, it's actually the true Demonbane. Confirmed.
LeuberRebel It's actually Shin Mazinger zero with a 0% chance of failure.
AshuroS You're wrong. It's Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann with it's power to nullifiy probability itself.
vidmanandrew09
Dude, Getter Emperor...ABSORBS all. You touch it or it touches you and you will be absorbed within it.
What part of 0% failure don't you guys get? that means 0% chance to screw with his chances of winning and 0% chance to reach him in time before his op version of breast fire melts you.
Bolting Driver, plus it can do more than that. We've only scene 1 out of 3 bolt modes used.
I see, I took a look before I said that and didn't find all that stuff for some reason. But thanks for enlightening me.
Remenber Go nagai's law of named Mecha Fights?
"In any case Mech A vs Mech Mech B (vs Mech C, ets) said mecha will ether team up after minorly trashing each other or will be teammates from very beginning. Than they will kick someones ass in especially epic manner."
Transformers, like Voltron/Golion, are much bigger over in the Americas than they were in their country of origin. Optimus Prime and Voltron are important cultural icon to Americans.
A well thought out and interesting discussion about robot comparisons? ON UA-cam? Pinch me, I am dreaming.
I'm personally going for a draw. Guy's ever-increasing G-Stone power and SHEER TENACITY is matched by Daiya's determination, ridiculous power multiplications and...SHEER TENACITY. Anything either threw at the other would just be withstood =p
The Great is also a LOT faster than Genesic. Hell, even regular Gaiking goes into DBZ-blur regularly, so that would factor in.
Discotek Media to license Gaiking: Legend of Daiku-Maryu when?!
@CaptainSeato
True, but I'm speaking specific "Robot Anime" terms, that's the general definition.
I see, *rubs chin* you're probably right there. Aye, the manga/novel versions of anything tend to be much more OP than the anime versions, with a few exceptions but yeah.
Raiking's arms, and Balking's legs?
These plus Gaikings torso =GAIKING THE GREAT
Would you rather see a sci fi realistic robots... OR ONES MADE OF PURE AWESOME CAPABLE OF DOING IMPOSSIBLE FEATS! I dont know about you but I'll take the second any idea with all their amazing GIGA DRILLS Heaven and Hell and Goldion Hammers of awesome
He's only five years older. Unlike Goku who had the voice he had when he was five, when he was in his forties
ガイキング・ザ・グレートは劇中で３回しか出番がなかった気がする。
スーパーファイヤーダグオンみたいな感じ？
欠点がほとんど同じですね、グレートはノーマル時の十倍の出力を誇りますがエネルギー消費が更に激しいという点が似てます、フェイスオープン・ザ・グレートだと更に4倍の出力増加でノーマル時の40倍になるので短時間しか使えないと言う
I like the old and new anime of the music too.
Glorious
Don't act like Genesic's only power is in the Goldion Crusher! That's a last-ditch weapon for highly selective situations. Genesic is strong enough with his bare hands!
But it's a tough matchup. The Great is much more maneuverable than Genesic is, but Guy never, ever gives up- he went far enough as to pull the heavily outclassed, already wrecked GaoFighGar together with only his willpower and -kept fighting sans cockpit-. (Minding that it didn't last for too long after that, it's still amazing)
He was five in his forties.... well, technically speaking.
i love the genesic vs the great joke but genesic kicking the greats ass ?
nah. they would be equally crazy breaking the world apart to kill each other.
Genesic GaoGaiGar is known for power
The Great. if you have seen the series has a enormously huge horse power on his back 0.o he can easily go left or right quickly. his power is tremendous. to many differences @.0 but this serie was awesome and stays awesome alongside GaoGaiGar series ^^
Don't forget this also includes the people piloting the robots. Daiya is good but he has to go up The getter team which is no easy feat mind you.
@geniusbob so... you're telling me robot designs such as the one you see in about any western movie involving robots, such as Transformers, Matrix, District 9, Terminator in average are actually LESS complex than Shin Getter Robo, Daiguard, Gurren-Lagann and Godannar alike?
The only cases of giant robots having simple designs in western media I remember were Transformers, Go-bots, Orbots, OMF:2097 and Megas XLR, and those first 3 were based on japanese toys
Go Gaiking The Great
@MVGkaiser
Actually, "mecha" refers to anything mechanical in nature; from guns and cars, to real robots and super robots.
Indeed I did, although I was responding to the comment where Gundam was in the same group as Gaiking and Mazinger.
@Geshpenst
You should watch GaoGaiGar. There are some really tense moments where you don't really know whether or not Guy and co. can really pull out a victory.* This goes double for GaoGaiGar FINAL.
(* Well, that is assuming you can temporarily shut off that part of your brain that says "It's a Super Robot Show! Of course he's going to win!" You have to be able to do that to enjoy anything in the genre, anyway, I think.)
@ArkRiley: "The Great would have to be immobilized first"
And that is the first thing that happens on any successful execution of Hell And Heaven, so long as the opponent isn't G-Stone-powered.
The question at that point would be whether GGGG could manage to pierce GTG's armor, which is admittedly iffy.
Still, there's plenty of abilities that GGGG has aside from H&H and the Crusher. Furthermore, I don't think we ever saw GGGG at full speed; Gai was too sluggish to move it right at the time.
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The normal Gaiking? Actually Shin on its own can fight it very well. if you are going to bring Great in, that is made from three mechs, so bringing in Shin Dragon is quite fair. Other than that, Shin is extremely fast, it is quite durable and it has three modes on its own, each with special abilities that can easily match Gaiking...I don't know exactly what you were watching, but they can match Gaiking no problem o.o
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@haineko1101 "Still, there's plenty of abilities that GGGG has aside from H&H and the Crusher." Well, yes, that's why I mentioned Genesic fighting under his own strength, as against Palparepa Prajna.
I don't think Genesic's top speed is all that higher than what we ever saw- Guy was at top strength when he fused and final fused into Genesic and he didn't start slowing down until Palparepa took the upper hand against him. I at least don't think it's on par with FOTG.
How the fuck were Pacific Rim mecha over designed? The most complex one was Crimson Typhoon and it's not exactly covered in kibble like bayformers.
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@ArmageddonV2 I just had a thought, is the motion blur the actual result of speed, or the end result of the desire to save money for the sake of staying within the budget requirements set forth? Just something to think about.
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Geez it's like all the Gundam fans forgot Phoenix Gundam and Master Phoenix Gundam geez you guys forgot THEY are the true Super Robot Gundams
How would both of them fare against the Getter Robo and Mazinger series of robots?
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@geniusbob
Overdesigned or not like you said they're still awesome.
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@jackmcslay
No, not I'm not. But most Japanese robots are far more over designed. In addition to what I listed before, theres Gaogaigar, Later Gurren Laganns, almost any combiner from the brave series or the early 80s/70s, Strike Freedom, Dancouga, Gravion, etc...
So I really don't see where you're coming from. A lot of Japanese robots have been over designed to hell and back(and while they're still awesome, they get pretty busy and over done).
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Not necessarily. There are plenty of Gundams that are fantasical in design or power level (Most of the G Gundam cast, Destiny, Infinite Justice and Strike Freedom, 00 Raiser and 00 Qan[T], and of course, the Turn A). Would a feasible robot have a weapon capable of decimating whole cities? (Twin Buster Rifle, Satellite Cannon and Twin version, Raiser Sword and Quantum Buster Sword/Rifle) And let's not get STARTED on what Newtypes do to UC Gundams. I'm looking at you, Kamille and Banagher.
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...insulting Joke aside, I do agree. I really can't think of any Super Robot that I can honestly call Over-Designed....honestly, I think it's AMERICAN Robots that are overdesigned. Look at Michael Bay's transformers and Pacific Rim for PERFECT examples.
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@majinnguyver
I think Proist and Suspage, Nouza did help Daiya later.
Only Shin would be able to fight them, with the power of the getter emperor behind it...Mazinger, even Mazinkaiser is nowhere near as ridiculous. He is quite balanced compared to Genesic and Great
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Over designing do not equals detailed designs.
For example Strike Freedom was overdesigned, while Unicorn and every mobile suit in Gundam UC had a highly detailed design.
The detail level depends of the budget, and the level of animation technology.
See for example the the original Armored Trooper Votoms, and the new OVA-s, like Shining Heresy, Phantom Arc, which featured the same simple designs , in far greater detail.
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@ArmageddonV2 Everyone forgets something important here. Daiya and Guy fighting each other would be boring compared to them teaming up and fighting a greater enemy.