Hello, would it be possible to re-arrange the "Roman History" playlist based on the timeline? So we could go through the history from the BC era to the AC era.
@@illerac84 The change of form of government is what made it an empire... you clearly have an issue understanding the meaning of words. A country IS its form of government.
@@Panteni87 So what would you call the holdings of the Dutch and French Republics, Venice, the Soviets, etc? Augustus made every effort to show the continuation of the Republican government, which was prior to him, controlling territory across much of the Mediterranean in Europe, Asia, and Africa. So those were provinces, "overseas provinces of the Republic?" I think we're splitting hairs. Rome was acting as a less than efficient empire, and Augustus reformed it to make it work long term.
@@illerac84 an empire is a nation with a sole emperor at it's helm, multiple cultures within its borders and low to no democratic decision-making. Most empires are also titles that are passed down by kinship instead of election. Those others I would call grand-republics, but not particularly empires. As republics usually have constitutions where empires usually don't
My father died on this floor. Right there. Stabbed 27 times, butchered, by men he called his friends. Who will tell me that is not murder? Who will tell my legions who loved Caesar as I do that that is not murder? - Augustus Octavian Caesar.
@@jonbaxter2254 Great fucking line. Consider it now a majestic addition to the glorious People's Memes Ministry. Your contribution is always appreciated, comrade. You should feel proud! /leaves stealing someone else's IP/
Always found this part of Roman history particullary amazing. Anthony starts off with all the advantages: money, political & military power, and actual combat experience. Octavian had pretty much nothing other than his inherited name. And yet, in the end...
The "Liberators": Okay we'll have a funeral but it'll be chill with no theatrics okay? Antony: Sure Also Antony: Waving Caesar's bloody toga on a spear while unveiling a wax Caesar with stab wounds.
Not gonna lie, Brutus, Cassius and the rest of the "Liberators" might've been the stupidest assassins in history. They killed Caesar, the man whom literally everyone loved, and were like: "Now what?" No coup plans, no attempts to remove Anthony or Lepidus, not even checking the Caesar's will! They were so stupid to think that Anthony, who was literally more of an autocrat than Caesar himself, would just go along and not attempt to take the power for himself. Not to mention that they didn't even addressed the problem that Lepidus and the entire legion of Caesar's soldiers, men who literally followed Caesar to hell and back and who would surely take revenge for his murder, were stationed just outside Rome at the moment of assassination. They didn't ever bother how to convince either the people or the legions that what they did was right, nor they had the backup plan for what to do if the population in Rome turns against them, as it of course eventually did. It's amazing that the "Liberators" even survived those 2 years until battle of Philippi!
The "Liberators" were very out of Touch with the rest of the people and the issues they were dealing with. They were also LARPing (Expulsion of the last Roman king), which didnt help much.
@@pain5835 True, very true. Actually, at first they even tried to involve Anthony in the plot, telling him pretty much everything. Anthony, of course, didn't want to join, so they all got spooked and scattered, temporarily halting the plot. But, for some very unknown reason, Anthony did not told Caesar about this plot. We, unfortunately, don't know exactly why Anthony didn't tell him, but there are some very interesting hypothesis. Perhaps Anthony even secretly hoped that Caesar would be killed, so he could take the power, but didn't want to have anything with the act of assassination itself?
Hey all, I was the writer and historian for this episode, hope you enjoyed! If you've got any questions or feedback, please do leave them below and I'll try my best to get around to them!
@@trollman1296 Augustus, hands down. Man had everything that an Emperor needed. If we weren't gonna count him, I'd probably lean towards Marcus Aurelius, but there are pleenty of other solid options. But yea, if Augustus is allowed, he's my pick all day
Did Agrippa studied military in Illyria with Octavianus? Did they both came together back to Rome after Caesars assassination? How come so many provinces and legions turned against the caesarians? Is it just because of Antonys incompetance? Because he didnt pay many veterans and allies?
@jabatheguy By the time that Octavian and Antony fully went head to head at Actium, they were both on a far more level playing field. Antony did start out with a lot more advantages, but early on he was facing off against Decimus, and Octavian and the Senate, which evened things up a bit. Shortly after Philippi, Octavian was basically at the same level of power as Antony, fielding just as many Legions and having a comparable amount of resources. So yea, by the time the two fought at Actium, Antony didn't have nearly as clear an advantage, if any: it was pretty even. How Octavian managed to get into that position will be covered more in this series! As for why Octavian eventually won at Actium, there are a number of main reasons. First, is that Agrippa was an absolute military genius, he deserves a lot of credit for that victory. Secondly, Octavian's men were way more experienced that Antony's in naval war, having fought a big naval campaign against the son of Pompey. Lastly, Antony's battle plan was handed over to Octavian, giving him a massive advantage.
@@voidwalker9223 why would anybody be fascinated or be excited about the current day? The state of the world is shit and nothing good is on the horizon. Let him have his escapism.
@@luciano9755 yeah.. it’s a real shame that HBO didn’t have big time money back then. I’d gladly trade all of Game of Thrones for multiple high budget seasons of Rome
@@luciano9755 i think they low key wanted to have that scene executed differently from expectations since that part is an iconic scene from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar... but they messed that up.
I cannot imagine just how badly Mark Antony's Heart SUNK when he did finally hear Caesars will. He was so certain he would be named succesor.. Which always brings me back to that ride they shared in hispania. Caesar, Mark Antony, and a young Octavian. Caesar was riding with Antony upfront when, if memory serves correct, They had a disagreement of sorts. Caesar had Antony switch with Octavian and it is said during this trip that Caesar would choose the boy aa his heir instead of Mark Antony. What happened in that carriage that causes Caesar to be sure that Octavian was the right choice?
I think Octavian was the eldest male in the Julii clan after Ceasar. The focus was usually to raise the standing of one's own clan (before Ceasar, the clan's standing had fallen and Ceasar was the first to raise it again). So it only makes sense that Ceasar's heir was the eldest male in his own clan. The fact that Octavian was even on that trip to Hispania, indicates that Ceasar intended to groom Octavian as his clan heir.
For Caesar to pick an obscure, unknown kid as his successor really shows how incredible his judgement could be… how many great leaders have hand picked the successor to their name, their legacy? None can touch Julius and Octavian in accomplishments
I couldn't help thinking what Caesar said when he crossed rubicon : let the dice fly! must be the same feeling when he composed his will naming Octavian as his hier and adopt son! Caesar is Caesar! no human can reach his level!
@@samuelademeso9041 he was great-nephew on the maternal side, who hadn’t even entered public life. Octavian’s own father was a “new man” who died before achieving the rank of consul. Octavian had no military career or personal accomplishments to speak of. Octavian was, at that time, non-consequential in the grand scheme of Roman politics in comparison to others like Brutus, Antony, Cassius, Cicero etc… If you actually look at it from the perspective of the time, you’d have to understand that the Octavius family name carried little political importance which was why Octavian took on the name of Gaius Julius Caesar… P.S. I didn’t say he was some “randos”, I said he was an unknown and obscure. If you’re going to argue, at least do it properly
That’s what every great autocrat needs to pull. That’s the reason I have always though that for example, Alexander was a legendary general and a magnificent conqueror, but a shitty statesman.
//What happened in Rome after Caesar's assassination?// "The Republic totally wasn't demolished to make room for an Empire." -Caesar Augustus, Primus inter Pares
I always like to picture the suffocating silence when the senators realised that, despite their flawless plans not extending beyond Caesar's death, at some point someone would have to tell the legions that they just murdered their best commander. And that the legionaries who left their homes and families to prepare for a war, will not only not be getting rich in the east, the legions will also be denied their vengeance against the Parthians.
Oh well , at least many more wars in Persia would happen another hundred years with other emperors although I don’t think it would have happened in their life times.
Oh well , at least many more wars in Persia would happen another hundred years with other emperors although I don’t think it would have happened in their life times.
I wonder how much Octavian genuinely believed in giving the people of Rome Caesar's gift. Obviously, it was mostly a cynical power play, but considering what he went through to give it, I believe Octavian on some level genuinely believed in what he was doing.
Considering his later actions, it was all just a ploy. He basically sucked the life out of everyday romans like some sort of royal vampire. Especially farmers.
@@xavierlucky397 Still though, people have a way of deluding themselves into believing they serve a just cause and their actions are "for the greater good". Wouldn't surprise me if somewhere down the line Octavian had convinced himself of his own farce, truly believing he did everything for the good of Rome. But I guess we'll never know
Octavian is one of the coldest, most calculating men in history (which unfortunately also explains why he was such an incredible leader), there's no way he didn't see an advantage for himself in there
I love Julius Caesar and Augustus Caesar so much. Even after several thousand of years, they give me inspiration and strength. They were both incredible great!
Caesars life and story is amazing. It is my favorite part of roman history. And unlike other generals in history Cesar did actually fight talented commanders, it is a very realistic possibility that he would have lost all the wars he was in, but he is caesar so he came out on top. Just so sad that he had to be assassinated.
see unlike alexander the overrated, caesar had actual political acumen, fought against actual generals with almost equal manpower and strength, and he fought against much much much varied enemies than the overrated man ever did. plus overrated had his dad to thank to give him such an amazing military infrastructure to start with as well as not havin to put up with the greek politics, since his dad, philip the true great, already handled all of that for him.
He was also beloved by the people the reason the senators assassinated him is because he introduced reforms that increased the standard of living for the plebs and brought the upper class down to a level so they weren't an all powerful aristocracy
I did not think I could be even more fascinated with Octavian than I already am and yet... every time I watch something about him I am in awe. That music in the end was so perfectly chosen.
Titus Livius once stated: "The study of history is the best medicine for a sick mind; for in history you have a record of the infinite variety of human experience plainly set out for all to see; and in that record you can find yourself and your country both examples and warnings; fine things to take as models, base things rotten through and through, to avoid"
@@ancientfinn3738 Very well written and very untrue. Studying history doesn't cure a sick mind. Especially, if you don't use the knowledge gained from studying history to avoid making the same mistakes. Sick Minds don't like to learn to improve or avoid past mistakes. That's why they're called sick.
All Augustus direct heirs died tho. Nero, Tiberius and Caligula became emperor because there were no other options. Some even suspect that Augustus’s wife killed all his heirs since they all died at very convenient times.
@@BrayanAdler Which is mostly propaganda as I said. Most of what’s said about him comes from the aristocrats who hated him and then perpetuated by the Christians, who were blamed for Rome’s burning by Nero in an attempt to deflect accusations. The burning of Rome was not started by him. There was no proof of it. Aristocrats simply used it to discredit him and seize power, arguing that he did it in order to build the Domus Aurea. All the laws and things he did for the people was what made the aristocratic class hate him. In other words, Nero’s supposed wickedness/madness is a myth just like Napoleon being short and Marie Antoinette’s infamous brioche line are.
@@LuisBrito-ly1ko i am not saying he was crazy i say he did not do anything good to Rome therefore the people. Was the aristocrats fault that he lost an easy war against Parthia? Or that he used so much money constructing only personal buildings? Or that he managed everything wrong that neither the people nor the legions gave a thing for him? He ended one of the best dynasties by being incompetent and a incompetent emperor definitely makes nothing good for the people.
I visualised the scenes in "Rome" while watching this video and it was a perfect match. I really recommend people interested in this time era watching "Rome". Seriously underrated.
A question that I've always had is to why even assissnate Caesar since Caesar was planning a at least a three year campaign against the Dacians and against the Parthians to "avenge" Crassas? The Parthians were a first class political and military power and just the travel and subsequent military action could have eliminated Caesar as a threat to the republic.
Because Caesar went against Gauls, and won, he went against Pompei Magnus, and won. He went to Pontus and he veni,vidi vicid back to rome. It isn't unreasonable to assume Caesar wouldn't have lost to Parthians, maybe he would make parthia a client state or pay handsomely. That would have made him more popular, more riches and glory for the people and all that.
In the defense of the conspirators, they likely figured Ceasar would come out on top as he had done multiple times since his rise to prominence. He had strong armed the Senate into lengthy terms as governor of three provinces, essentially conquered all of Gaul, took down Pompey's armies in Spain and later then himself in the East, tamed Egypt and North Africa and even stomped out Pompey's sons and Labienus to end the war. He could very well have likely succeeded in the East and Parthia. And if he returned a few years later having bested and claimed more lands, at that point the people of Rome might actually be inclined to give him a crown.
@@jaypandya7441 This is the real reason why. The Senate really had no plan at all after they killed Caesar, they seriously thought things would magically return to normal, and completely failed to stop Mark Antony from asserting himself in literally any capacity.
Ironic how the “Liberators” felt that by removing Caesar and saving the Republic, they instead doomed it. (It can be argued that it was already died or dying. It can also be argued wether or not if it was even worth preserving at the time given the decades long decline that began many years before Caesar was even born.)
Yep, but he had a tendency to land on his feet even if things don't go well so even though I think that would have still been the right move, if Caesar actually managed it they would then be an even worse position. I don't think he would have been too successful due to the way the Parthians fought, but Caesar was a smart guy and lucky too, I don't think he would have entered flat terrain to fight nomads in an open desert like Crassus and instead would have taken the longer path through Armenia instead because that would help nullify the Parthians mobility advantage. Even then though, it would still be difficult going as Mark Anthony proved when he tried. but hey who knows, guess that's why alternate history is so fun to speculate about, the guy who could have actually pulled it off seems like it would be Caesar haha
Caesar was no stranger to tough adversaries. Yes the Parthians were pretty annoying to fight with their hit and run tactics. However Caesar was used to that after fighting the Numidian Cavalry in Africa during the civil wars. Numidians were far more capable than the Parthians
They considered doing just that. But it was a gamble. If Caesar returned victorious, he would he praised as a God. He would be Rome’s Alexander. It would be way harder to kill him and way harder to convince people that he was Tyrant.
It must be tough to be Octavian at this time, being humiliated, overlooked and underestimated by Antony who was driven by greed for power and spite for Octavian who was chosen as Caesar's heir. Having his rightful inheritance being practically stolen must have driven Octavian to crush everyone else without mercy including Antony. Speaking of Antony the dude kissed the Optimates' ass and simped for Cleopatra. He doesn't deserve to unify and lead Rome to its future glory
I must say that this series of Ceaser and his aftermath has truly been an insightful and very well presented programme and im throughly enjoying it, and learning absolute tons of new information that just makes them all seem so human on every level. With that being said...bloody well hurry up with the next one
I can't afford it right now, but this is the first channel I've ever planned on joining as a paying member since the feature became available. The two part long documentary you guys made on the Caesarian wars is the best I've seen in this format. I'm really pleased and impressed with this summation of the aftermath of his assassination because you included very balanced arguments from many sides on the many aspects of Caesar's life. You guys deserve so much for all of your work. THANK YOU!!!
This part of Roman history always boggles my mind. It's possible that if Antony just squared up the will and doled it out as it was written, didn't piss off Octavius, and kept a level head when trying to get the Senate back on track then it's possible the Imperial Era might not have happened. Course, that would have made things a lot more interesting if he did do that and Octavius still came out ahead. This era of Roman History just gets me excited for some reason.
It's interesting to see where Antony had come from after Caesar's death. Knowing full well where he eventually ended up. I wonder how different history would've been had Antony not taken up with Cleopatra. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
Except for the literal backstabbing, I think politics are at the same level today as it was back then. Less bloody (at least for now) but as cruel and brutal. More and more I realize that it is often not the form of government that is important but who is in charge. A corrupt Republic can be as bad as a dictatorship. "Why exchange one tyrannt 1000 miles away for 1000 tyrannts one mile away?" - Benjamin Martin in "The Patriot" Thanks for the video! Looking forward to the next part!
@@SamuelChac0n lets pretend there are 300 politicians divided in 10 parties. 290 of them are corrupt. Now the elections have been held the winning party is full of corrupt officials. People don't notice it at first but later see trough it. Now 4 years later they elect a new party People don't notice it at first but later see that they are corrupt. 4 years go by, new elections they chose a new party turns out to be corrupt 4 years etc. 100 years later and not 1 good government has existed. This isn't even calculating the fact that most people vote for the same party always regardless because they aren't bothered with politics and are encourged to vote because people died for it or some other bullshit. + elections can be rigged especialy paper ones very easly. Then you have election period where politicians stop doing their work to focus on persuading you to vote on them. So to get a good standing party you have to go through 100 holes in the system to let this happen. In the US its even worse 2 corrupt parties and those are the only ones people vote on
@@Yum_Yum_Delicious_Cum “Corrupt” is a very easy tag to put on a party, of course there’s corruption on every single party on earth, the question is how corrupt, inefficient or downright bad they are. Besides, corruption still happens in dictatorships. Added to that, let’s imagine the same scenario but in a dictatorship: the leader is bad, then the successor is bad and the next guy is also bad. That’s easily 100 years of suffering in a much more realistic scenario (as it already has happened in north korea) But what you are saying is that you’d prefer a dictatorship with a competent ruler right? Here’s the thing, 1 good ruler doesn’t guarantee that the next won’t be a disaster, and you have 0 choice in the matter. The truth is that dictatorships are (sadly) much more difficult to get rid pf than democracies. I’m sorry if i couldn’t make my points very clear, english is not my first language
@@SamuelChac0n yea its less about how good dictatorships are and more about how shitty democracies are or better said the western style of democracy(which isn't a democracy). And indeed dictatorships are very flawed you have the roman empire and post-colonial africa as an example. Best way I can think of is 1 or more dictators in power whose actions are heavily regulated and checked by other people while also having like allot of advisors and ministers. And how does he get chosen? Probably the person which is most capable in a mix of charisma, diplomacy and administration. +adding to that The people should have a vote in domestic affaires. The rules you wan't in the country everybody can vote for that. And other shit people have totally no saying in like defensive wars, global affairs, trade relations, alliances etc. Thats how my system would work but very basicallly.
@@SamuelChac0n Really, do they? Some people argue Putin is a dictator (not my personal opinion), yet he get's reelected. How many so called "dictators" have been removed in the past few decades by the west only to plunge their respective countries into absolute chaos by adopting western democracy? I don't argue the possible benefits of a democracy, but after a while every system gets corrupted and people look for alternatives, that's where "strong man figures" are elevated into seats of power to reign in the corruption. "La Terreur" in France was supposed to be a Republic, yet the French cheered when Napoleon became their leader and emperor. He was considered a villian by all the other monarchs in Europe. Yet so much of his legacy remains: The ideas of enlightenment and the concept of one people bound together by a common culture, language and history which was novel back then but formed the basis for all the present states in Europe. And the French still hold him in high regard. On the other hand you have people like Oliver Cromwell who single handedly-destroyed any desire in England for a Republic for generations. That's what I mean with "who is in charge". The Roman Republic had become (at least in the eyes of the pleps) corrupt. Ceasar (and before him Sulla) presented an opportunity to change their situation, and the people were willing to take it, political participation be damned. From their point of view, the little influence they had, did not matter. So they sought a champion, who would fight for their cause. And as far as I can see most people don't give a damn if they have the right to vote or not. Either they don't vote at all or just keep on voting for the same old mantras and political propaganda they choose to believe. There are so few people out there who actually try to see through all that fog and who actually try to make the right choice at the ballot. Democracy requires real participation of it's people, the system on its own is worthless. Or even worse, it gives a government a sense of legitimacy which it possibly does not even deserve. By all means have a democracy, but if you have one, take part in it and don't let the politicians just "do their thing". The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. - Thomas Jefferson. That goes double in a democracy.
as an Italian, i obviously love my history. Italy was ground zero for many great Empires. The fall of Rome caused irreparable damage to Italy for years to come. Italy wasn’t unified until 1865 and caused many riffs between city states as a result of the Roman collapse. Not many talk about that
Not Many want to talk about that. Who wants to admit their ancestors fucked up their own empires and messed up so badly it took centuries to rebuild and not even close to its former power?
Can’t help thinking back to HBO’s awesome series Rome as I watch this video. Loved it. And it was a pretty good stab at accuracy (pun intended lol) too. ✌️
Awesome video! I’m really glad you guys continued up after Caesars death, I was really hoping you would. You don’t seem to see a lot of videos or anything about afterwards, looking forward to the next.
This channel knocks out some really awesome content and fast... I don't know how they do all these animations and still crank out content like this... truly amazing 👏
Without the fine details of this as presented here it is impossible to get what happened . Kings and Gnerals do an excellent jobof presenting the important nuances. Very good indeed!
This episode was amazing :/ I don't know what was so amazing about it because I always found episodes without battles super boring, but man o man, this was PURE GOLD
Always amazed at all a 19 year old Octavian was able to achieve. Makes 19 year olds today seem so uninspired. He had to have been a little genius like the HBO TV series portrayed him as.
@grand nagus we must have different criteria for genius then because I didn't just watch HBO, I've read his biographies & history books. And his political maneuvers were brilliant. I'm a silly man? Rich coming from a person with the self complimentary title "grand" in their online name.
@@EagleLeader1 Are you deaf? He was a puppet. The people behind the throne advised him on the best course of action to defeat Anthony the tyrant. Ain't no twenty something going to defeat the top men in Rome Mr. Movie History Guy.
@@boblezaer4851 deaf? The ability to hear is not required to understand this video (captions duh) or, like I said above read his biography from accredited historians. If you're going to insult people who never insulted you, at least do it accurately. All the "top men of Rome" who meant to puppeteer him ended up being dead by his order & Octavian alive & ruling. Obviously he was at least smarter than them. You clearly only watched this video & never actually know the rest of the story, Octavian outsmarts all who meant to puppeteer him & becomes Rome's first Emperor, Augustus. Don't rely on a single video in a UA-cam series that didn't finish his story, I didn't just rely on HBO's series, I read what happens after this UA-cam video.
@@EagleLeader1 You're a fool, Octavian was a special case born with specific circumstances that allowed him to achieve his status and it had nothing to do with his age, you pretentious ageist.
More on Ceasar's funeral- The mob rushed his funerary pyre and took charge of his remains, attempting to carry him to the temple of jupiter; the holiest (in their eyes) site in the city would burn to serve as Ceasar's pyre. The mob was prevented from approaching the temple, and they decided that if Jupiter's temple wouldn't serve to honor Ceasar, the whole of Rome would burn instead. They tore anything that would burn from nearby structures and set it ablaze. Men began throwing their weapons into the fire to burn with Ceasar, followed by others' jewelry and even the clothes off people's backs...
Truth be told I really don't think Vorenus would have made much of a difference. He was unarmed, toga'd, just as unaware as Caesar, and most of all extremely conservative/religious at that point in the show. What they did was sacrilege and undoubtedly would have stunned him just as much as it did Caesar and Antony. The reason he was so hyped up by the liberators was simply due to the fact those patricians were out of shape or old and they knew how to stall Antony but not him. It doesn't matter how badass you are if 3 or more people get the drop on you, armed and up close, all at once. Antony said it himself later in the show "you know nothing of violence, a few mangey dogs can kill a lion."
@@pokeman5000 but everyone was super scared of his skills after he jumped in and killed those gladiators. No way Brutus goes against the great Vorenus.
Just saying but I am really looking forward to seeing the battle of Forum Gallorum, the battle of Mutina, the battles of Philippi, the Sicilian war, Antonys Parthian War, The battle of Actium and the battle of Alexandria.
I am loving this videos about Roman, because I'm playing the Roman total war, and it's really interesting to do a comparison between my game play and the real history. The channel is the best!
Simon from Biographics spoke better about Augustus. You forgot to mention about Agrippa, who was influential for Octavian decision of go to Rome and claim his place as Caesar sucessor.
"Wait, so you thought running around, covered in blood and screaming in the streets, would calm the public and restore order for a new republic?" "Of course, why wouldn't it?"
This video was fantastic it is easy to get confused with Roman names and provinces your illustration helped a lot I have read a lot about Roman history and of this time period and you did a fantastic job in illustrating it
Caesar's assassination is the epitome of the metaphor "Better the devil you know..." In other words, they got rid of the "king", only to end up with someone worse.
This period after Caesar and before the Principate will be very interesting to learn more about. I've read books of course, but a visual story will be great. I'm hoping the actual years of Augustus' reign will also be gone over? Normally the story ends with him becoming Princeps, and then he suddenly becomes an old man. Those decades of rule will be very interesting to hear about.
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Hello, would it be possible to re-arrange the "Roman History" playlist based on the timeline? So we could go through the history from the BC era to the AC era.
...Where's Agrippa? Where's my boi Agrippa?
Epic as always, though I know much on the subject matter plus time period I gain much from your insights time and again .. kudos.
Actium 31 BC
The rise of Octavian is so fascinating.
Caesar chose VERY well when he made Octavian his heir.
Beginning of an empire...
@@jonbaxter2254 They already were. The form of government just changed.
@@illerac84 The change of form of government is what made it an empire... you clearly have an issue understanding the meaning of words. A country IS its form of government.
@@Panteni87
So what would you call the holdings of the Dutch and French Republics, Venice, the Soviets, etc?
Augustus made every effort to show the continuation of the Republican government, which was prior to him, controlling territory across much of the Mediterranean in Europe, Asia, and Africa.
So those were provinces, "overseas provinces of the Republic?" I think we're splitting hairs.
Rome was acting as a less than efficient empire, and Augustus reformed it to make it work long term.
@@illerac84 an empire is a nation with a sole emperor at it's helm, multiple cultures within its borders and low to no democratic decision-making. Most empires are also titles that are passed down by kinship instead of election.
Those others I would call grand-republics, but not particularly empires. As republics usually have constitutions where empires usually don't
My father died on this floor. Right there. Stabbed 27 times, butchered, by men he called his friends. Who will tell me that is not murder? Who will tell my legions who loved Caesar as I do that that is not murder? - Augustus Octavian Caesar.
I love that scene. And Cicero got scared finally realised that he was not dealing with a boy but an Emperor
@@FrostCaramto Step away from my chair!
Giraffes cannot pull chariots...
*centurions enter the chamber*
@@jonbaxter2254 Great fucking line.
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/leaves stealing someone else's IP/
Always found this part of Roman history particullary amazing. Anthony starts off with all the advantages: money, political & military power, and actual combat experience. Octavian had pretty much nothing other than his inherited name. And yet, in the end...
Anthony wasn't the smartest.
@@mrhumble2937 true, politically & strategically he was completely outmanouvered.
@@lowersaxon i think people fail to realise that Octavian inherited Caesar's political acumen, albeit only a modicum of his mercy.
@@l.a.covers8400 Caesar was not a merciful man.
that name was a powerful tool to be inherited along which was further legitimised by Caesars will
The "Liberators": Okay we'll have a funeral but it'll be chill with no theatrics okay?
Antony: Sure
Also Antony: Waving Caesar's bloody toga on a spear while unveiling a wax Caesar with stab wounds.
Fortune favors the bold.
Ave, true to Caesar
"Friends, Romans, countrymen.... oh, fuck this. Where's that wax statue?"
A pantomime act...nothing more
*After assasinating Caesar*
"We did it,Brutus!we saved the Roman republic!"
Was the most ironic statement ever
Truly Ironic!!
"I love Rome so much I'm gonna plunge it back into civil war because I didn't get the lands promised to me!"
- Brutus
Like the democrats stole the election to prevent Trump from another 4 years.
And then made the country worse. Men will always conspire against a man that is greater than them
@@stingingmetal9648
Hahahahaha-hahah-HAA-hahaha!
*Deep breath*
HAAAAAAAAA! Hahahaha!
Not gonna lie, Brutus, Cassius and the rest of the "Liberators" might've been the stupidest assassins in history. They killed Caesar, the man whom literally everyone loved, and were like: "Now what?" No coup plans, no attempts to remove Anthony or Lepidus, not even checking the Caesar's will! They were so stupid to think that Anthony, who was literally more of an autocrat than Caesar himself, would just go along and not attempt to take the power for himself. Not to mention that they didn't even addressed the problem that Lepidus and the entire legion of Caesar's soldiers, men who literally followed Caesar to hell and back and who would surely take revenge for his murder, were stationed just outside Rome at the moment of assassination. They didn't ever bother how to convince either the people or the legions that what they did was right, nor they had the backup plan for what to do if the population in Rome turns against them, as it of course eventually did. It's amazing that the "Liberators" even survived those 2 years until battle of Philippi!
Conspiracy theories against Caesar is wrong
The "Liberators" were very out of Touch with the rest of the people and the issues they were dealing with. They were also LARPing (Expulsion of the last Roman king), which didnt help much.
@@pain5835 True, very true. Actually, at first they even tried to involve Anthony in the plot, telling him pretty much everything. Anthony, of course, didn't want to join, so they all got spooked and scattered, temporarily halting the plot. But, for some very unknown reason, Anthony did not told Caesar about this plot. We, unfortunately, don't know exactly why Anthony didn't tell him, but there are some very interesting hypothesis. Perhaps Anthony even secretly hoped that Caesar would be killed, so he could take the power, but didn't want to have anything with the act of assassination itself?
Literally followed Caesar to Hell and back? You have no right to call anyone stupid
@@justinian-the-great good point! i can't think of any other reason why Antony didn't tell Caesar about the plot on his life.
Brutus and Cassius: We did it guys. We have saved the Republic.
Octavius: Allow me to introduce myself.
Octavius was indeed a man of wealth, and taste 😉
Doabella: "Caesar was a tryant!"
Senate: "All offices appointed by Caesar will be made invalid."
Doabella: "Caesar was not that bad!"
Hey all, I was the writer and historian for this episode, hope you enjoyed! If you've got any questions or feedback, please do leave them below and I'll try my best to get around to them!
Who is the best Roman Emperor?
Do you think Caesar had a Ridge wallet?
@@trollman1296 Augustus, hands down. Man had everything that an Emperor needed. If we weren't gonna count him, I'd probably lean towards Marcus Aurelius, but there are pleenty of other solid options. But yea, if Augustus is allowed, he's my pick all day
Did Agrippa studied military in Illyria with Octavianus? Did they both came together back to Rome after Caesars assassination? How come so many provinces and legions turned against the caesarians? Is it just because of Antonys incompetance? Because he didnt pay many veterans and allies?
@jabatheguy By the time that Octavian and Antony fully went head to head at Actium, they were both on a far more level playing field. Antony did start out with a lot more advantages, but early on he was facing off against Decimus, and Octavian and the Senate, which evened things up a bit. Shortly after Philippi, Octavian was basically at the same level of power as Antony, fielding just as many Legions and having a comparable amount of resources. So yea, by the time the two fought at Actium, Antony didn't have nearly as clear an advantage, if any: it was pretty even. How Octavian managed to get into that position will be covered more in this series!
As for why Octavian eventually won at Actium, there are a number of main reasons. First, is that Agrippa was an absolute military genius, he deserves a lot of credit for that victory. Secondly, Octavian's men were way more experienced that Antony's in naval war, having fought a big naval campaign against the son of Pompey. Lastly, Antony's battle plan was handed over to Octavian, giving him a massive advantage.
I'm fascinated by Octavian's history and I loved your civil war documentary so far. I'm so excited to see Ocvtavian's rise to power!
Let me recommend Dovahatty to u bruh. His take on history is glorious
Idk why youre excited hes been dead for few thousand years now. Not happening right now man
@@voidwalker9223 why would anybody be fascinated or be excited about the current day? The state of the world is shit and nothing good is on the horizon. Let him have his escapism.
I love how this was portrayed in the HBO show Rome… Mark Antony really showed a political nuance that no one thought he had.
Julius Caesar make to big screen in 1953 & remake 1970
Sadly HBO reduced a key moment in history (Caesar's funeral) to a pleb commentating it humourously to his friends...
@@luciano9755 yeah.. it’s a real shame that HBO didn’t have big time money back then. I’d gladly trade all of Game of Thrones for multiple high budget seasons of Rome
@@luciano9755 i think they low key wanted to have that scene executed differently from expectations since that part is an iconic scene from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar... but they messed that up.
@@luciano9755 budget cuts.😅
It was cheaper to do it that way.
I cannot imagine just how badly Mark Antony's Heart SUNK when he did finally hear Caesars will.
He was so certain he would be named succesor..
Which always brings me back to that ride they shared in hispania. Caesar, Mark Antony, and a young Octavian.
Caesar was riding with Antony upfront when, if memory serves correct, They had a disagreement of sorts. Caesar had Antony switch with Octavian and it is said during this trip that Caesar would choose the boy aa his heir instead of Mark Antony.
What happened in that carriage that causes Caesar to be sure that Octavian was the right choice?
Not Mark Anthony, Mark Antony
@@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 actually, not Mark Antony, but Marcus Antonius. lol
Anthony was horrible at governing. .and octavian was a great choice
I think Octavian was the eldest male in the Julii clan after Ceasar. The focus was usually to raise the standing of one's own clan (before Ceasar, the clan's standing had fallen and Ceasar was the first to raise it again). So it only makes sense that Ceasar's heir was the eldest male in his own clan.
The fact that Octavian was even on that trip to Hispania, indicates that Ceasar intended to groom Octavian as his clan heir.
Octavian was the only choice as a blood relative.thats it.antony was a right hand man that's it.
For Caesar to pick an obscure, unknown kid as his successor really shows how incredible his judgement could be… how many great leaders have hand picked the successor to their name, their legacy? None can touch Julius and Octavian in accomplishments
I couldn't help thinking what Caesar said when he crossed rubicon : let the dice fly! must be the same feeling when he composed his will naming Octavian as his hier and adopt son! Caesar is Caesar! no human can reach his level!
@@beitang1241 except Octavian did.. and surpassed it.. there’s only one Augustus
Dude Octavian was his nephew, he wasn't some randos
@@samuelademeso9041 he was great-nephew on the maternal side, who hadn’t even entered public life. Octavian’s own father was a “new man” who died before achieving the rank of consul. Octavian had no military career or personal accomplishments to speak of. Octavian was, at that time, non-consequential in the grand scheme of Roman politics in comparison to others like Brutus, Antony, Cassius, Cicero etc… If you actually look at it from the perspective of the time, you’d have to understand that the Octavius family name carried little political importance which was why Octavian took on the name of Gaius Julius Caesar…
P.S. I didn’t say he was some “randos”, I said he was an unknown and obscure. If you’re going to argue, at least do it properly
That’s what every great autocrat needs to pull. That’s the reason I have always though that for example, Alexander was a legendary general and a magnificent conqueror, but a shitty statesman.
//What happened in Rome after Caesar's assassination?//
"The Republic totally wasn't demolished to make room for an Empire."
-Caesar Augustus, Primus inter Pares
I always like to picture the suffocating silence when the senators realised that, despite their flawless plans not extending beyond Caesar's death, at some point someone would have to tell the legions that they just murdered their best commander. And that the legionaries who left their homes and families to prepare for a war, will not only not be getting rich in the east, the legions will also be denied their vengeance against the Parthians.
And they all loved Caesar. The people and the army.
Oh well , at least many more wars in Persia would happen another hundred years with other emperors although I don’t think it would have happened in their life times.
Oh well , at least many more wars in Persia would happen another hundred years with other emperors although I don’t think it would have happened in their life times.
“The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves.”
― William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar
*the fault in our stars is a garbage movie*
-a koopa, probably
I watch Julius Caesar remake not original
True
I wonder how much Octavian genuinely believed in giving the people of Rome Caesar's gift. Obviously, it was mostly a cynical power play, but considering what he went through to give it, I believe Octavian on some level genuinely believed in what he was doing.
Considering his later actions, it was all just a ploy. He basically sucked the life out of everyday romans like some sort of royal vampire. Especially farmers.
@@xavierlucky397 Still though, people have a way of deluding themselves into believing they serve a just cause and their actions are "for the greater good". Wouldn't surprise me if somewhere down the line Octavian had convinced himself of his own farce, truly believing he did everything for the good of Rome. But I guess we'll never know
Octavian is one of the coldest, most calculating men in history (which unfortunately also explains why he was such an incredible leader), there's no way he didn't see an advantage for himself in there
Does it matter?
@@josephkelly6681 Not particularly, but it is an interesting question.
I love Julius Caesar and Augustus Caesar so much. Even after several thousand of years, they give me inspiration and strength. They were both incredible great!
I only wish Octavian didn't kill Caesar and Cleopatra 's son!
@@beitang1241 I'm pretty sure Octavius didn't want to kill him, but I think it was necessary.
Is Ceasar greater than Pompey? Pompey beat the tougher opponents, Ceasar fought disorganized tribes and planes, not serious and tech armies.
i think when you realize who won in the end you will have answered your question
@@innosantoCaesar literally beat Pompey, that makes him objectively better. He did it with a smaller force and less resources as well.
Caesars life and story is amazing. It is my favorite part of roman history. And unlike other generals in history Cesar did actually fight talented commanders, it is a very realistic possibility that he would have lost all the wars he was in, but he is caesar so he came out on top. Just so sad that he had to be assassinated.
Did he have to be?
@@nikjones7687 Nope. Rome would've been better off if they didn't.
If only he had listened to his wife (or the soothsayer) and stayed home that day.
see unlike alexander the overrated, caesar had actual political acumen, fought against actual generals with almost equal manpower and strength, and he fought against much much much varied enemies than the overrated man ever did. plus overrated had his dad to thank to give him such an amazing military infrastructure to start with as well as not havin to put up with the greek politics, since his dad, philip the true great, already handled all of that for him.
He was also beloved by the people the reason the senators assassinated him is because he introduced reforms that increased the standard of living for the plebs and brought the upper class down to a level so they weren't an all powerful aristocracy
I did not think I could be even more fascinated with Octavian than I already am and yet... every time I watch something about him I am in awe. That music in the end was so perfectly chosen.
Titus Livius once stated:
"The study of history is the best medicine for a sick mind; for in history you have a record of the infinite variety of human experience plainly set out for all to see; and in that record you can find yourself and your country both examples and warnings; fine things to take as models, base things rotten through and through, to avoid"
@@ancientfinn3738 Very well written and very untrue. Studying history doesn't cure a sick mind. Especially, if you don't use the knowledge gained from studying history to avoid making the same mistakes. Sick Minds don't like to learn to improve or avoid past mistakes. That's why they're called sick.
Octavian is the perfect definition of transition, from a ruthless and vengeful son to an effective and strong leader.
Imagine thinking Caesar was a tyrant only to replace him with the dynasty that produced Nero and Caligula.
All Augustus direct heirs died tho. Nero, Tiberius and Caligula became emperor because there were no other options. Some even suspect that Augustus’s wife killed all his heirs since they all died at very convenient times.
Nero Claudius is mostly propaganda dude, he did many things for the people. Besides, they’re from the Claudian Family, not the Julian.
@@LuisBrito-ly1ko i am sorry but he was terrible and i am not talking about neither what he did to christians nor putting in flames part of Rome
@@BrayanAdler
Which is mostly propaganda as I said. Most of what’s said about him comes from the aristocrats who hated him and then perpetuated by the Christians, who were blamed for Rome’s burning by Nero in an attempt to deflect accusations.
The burning of Rome was not started by him. There was no proof of it. Aristocrats simply used it to discredit him and seize power, arguing that he did it in order to build the Domus Aurea.
All the laws and things he did for the people was what made the aristocratic class hate him.
In other words, Nero’s supposed wickedness/madness is a myth just like Napoleon being short and Marie Antoinette’s infamous brioche line are.
@@LuisBrito-ly1ko i am not saying he was crazy i say he did not do anything good to Rome therefore the people. Was the aristocrats fault that he lost an easy war against Parthia? Or that he used so much money constructing only personal buildings? Or that he managed everything wrong that neither the people nor the legions gave a thing for him? He ended one of the best dynasties by being incompetent and a incompetent emperor definitely makes nothing good for the people.
I visualised the scenes in "Rome" while watching this video and it was a perfect match. I really recommend people interested in this time era watching "Rome". Seriously underrated.
Criminally overlooked series. I think _Rome_ would have had a massive cult following if it only was made in this age of the streaming wars.
The drama of Rome is just so interesting even several thousand years later.
Anthony's speech is one of the most incredible moments in history. Imagine hyping up your former boss so much the crowd riots in response.
Thank you Kings and Generals for existing. My love for History is always fed when yall put out new videos.
this was a nail biting video, a very accurate depiction of the turbulent tumultuous period in the roman republic. well done kings and generals
I was so focused on understanding the story that i finished it without noticing.. please i need more!!!
Antony's eulogy and oration at Caesar's funeral was an absolute masterclass, its a pity he could never get out of his own way afterwards.
A question that I've always had is to why even assissnate Caesar since Caesar was planning a at least a three year campaign against the Dacians and against the Parthians to "avenge" Crassas? The Parthians were a first class political and military power and just the travel and subsequent military action could have eliminated Caesar as a threat to the republic.
another defeat from parthian is too much for rome ego, maybe they want to prevent that
Because Caesar went against Gauls, and won, he went against Pompei Magnus, and won. He went to Pontus and he veni,vidi vicid back to rome. It isn't unreasonable to assume Caesar wouldn't have lost to Parthians, maybe he would make parthia a client state or pay handsomely. That would have made him more popular, more riches and glory for the people and all that.
In the defense of the conspirators, they likely figured Ceasar would come out on top as he had done multiple times since his rise to prominence. He had strong armed the Senate into lengthy terms as governor of three provinces, essentially conquered all of Gaul, took down Pompey's armies in Spain and later then himself in the East, tamed Egypt and North Africa and even stomped out Pompey's sons and Labienus to end the war. He could very well have likely succeeded in the East and Parthia. And if he returned a few years later having bested and claimed more lands, at that point the people of Rome might actually be inclined to give him a crown.
@@jaypandya7441 Unlikely, as Persia is hell to invade from the Western side. Possible he could have acquired the Euphrates territories though.
@@jaypandya7441 This is the real reason why. The Senate really had no plan at all after they killed Caesar, they seriously thought things would magically return to normal, and completely failed to stop Mark Antony from asserting himself in literally any capacity.
Ironic how the “Liberators” felt that by removing Caesar and saving the Republic, they instead doomed it. (It can be argued that it was already died or dying. It can also be argued wether or not if it was even worth preserving at the time given the decades long decline that began many years before Caesar was even born.)
To be honest the republic was already doomed to begin with
"We did it, Brutus! We saved the Roman Republic!"
Octavianus: Bonjour
I don’t think the “Liberators” would’ve been hated as much had they let Caesar go campaign in Parthia, where he might lose to the nomads.
Yep, but he had a tendency to land on his feet even if things don't go well so even though I think that would have still been the right move, if Caesar actually managed it they would then be an even worse position.
I don't think he would have been too successful due to the way the Parthians fought, but Caesar was a smart guy and lucky too, I don't think he would have entered flat terrain to fight nomads in an open desert like Crassus and instead would have taken the longer path through Armenia instead because that would help nullify the Parthians mobility advantage. Even then though, it would still be difficult going as Mark Anthony proved when he tried.
but hey who knows, guess that's why alternate history is so fun to speculate about, the guy who could have actually pulled it off seems like it would be Caesar haha
Caesar was no stranger to tough adversaries. Yes the Parthians were pretty annoying to fight with their hit and run tactics. However Caesar was used to that after fighting the Numidian Cavalry in Africa during the civil wars. Numidians were far more capable than the Parthians
It was Caesar. He would have won and come back richer and even more powerful than before.
Caesar won't lose to some Nomad lol
They considered doing just that. But it was a gamble. If Caesar returned victorious, he would he praised as a God. He would be Rome’s Alexander. It would be way harder to kill him and way harder to convince people that he was Tyrant.
It must be tough to be Octavian at this time, being humiliated, overlooked and underestimated by Antony who was driven by greed for power and spite for Octavian who was chosen as Caesar's heir. Having his rightful inheritance being practically stolen must have driven Octavian to crush everyone else without mercy including Antony.
Speaking of Antony the dude kissed the Optimates' ass and simped for Cleopatra. He doesn't deserve to unify and lead Rome to its future glory
Chad Octavian vs Simp Antony
@@mrdavman13 All hail the chad.
21:54 Wow that background music is GOOD! Especially when describing the start of war!
I must say that this series of Ceaser and his aftermath has truly been an insightful and very well presented programme and im throughly enjoying it, and learning absolute tons of new information that just makes them all seem so human on every level.
With that being said...bloody well hurry up with the next one
Thanks
I can't afford it right now, but this is the first channel I've ever planned on joining as a paying member since the feature became available. The two part long documentary you guys made on the Caesarian wars is the best I've seen in this format. I'm really pleased and impressed with this summation of the aftermath of his assassination because you included very balanced arguments from many sides on the many aspects of Caesar's life. You guys deserve so much for all of your work. THANK YOU!!!
Anthony himself was a shrewd politician. This only tells how much of a genius Octavian was.
This part of Roman history always boggles my mind. It's possible that if Antony just squared up the will and doled it out as it was written, didn't piss off Octavius, and kept a level head when trying to get the Senate back on track then it's possible the Imperial Era might not have happened. Course, that would have made things a lot more interesting if he did do that and Octavius still came out ahead. This era of Roman History just gets me excited for some reason.
9:37 this change in music is letting you know it’s about to get really good!
"The guild of millers only uses the finest grains. True Roman bread for true Romans."
They thought flames of Caesar would burn out with him instead it was passed on to Octavian who will light it brighter then before.
It's interesting to see where Antony had come from after Caesar's death. Knowing full well where he eventually ended up. I wonder how different history would've been had Antony not taken up with Cleopatra. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
Except for the literal backstabbing, I think politics are at the same level today as it was back then. Less bloody (at least for now) but as cruel and brutal. More and more I realize that it is often not the form of government that is important but who is in charge. A corrupt Republic can be as bad as a dictatorship. "Why exchange one tyrannt 1000 miles away for 1000 tyrannts one mile away?" - Benjamin Martin in "The Patriot"
Thanks for the video! Looking forward to the next part!
not true, if people don’t like who’s on charge in a democracy they just outvote him, you can’t do that in a dictatorship
@@SamuelChac0n lets pretend there are 300 politicians divided in 10 parties. 290 of them are corrupt.
Now the elections have been held the winning party is full of corrupt officials. People don't notice it at first but later see trough it. Now 4 years later they elect a new party
People don't notice it at first but later see that they are corrupt. 4 years go by, new elections they chose a new party turns out to be corrupt 4 years etc. 100 years later and not 1 good government has existed.
This isn't even calculating the fact that most people vote for the same party always regardless because they aren't bothered with politics and are encourged to vote because people died for it or some other bullshit. + elections can be rigged especialy paper ones very easly. Then you have election period where politicians stop doing their work to focus on persuading you to vote on them.
So to get a good standing party you have to go through 100 holes in the system to let this happen.
In the US its even worse 2 corrupt parties and those are the only ones people vote on
@@Yum_Yum_Delicious_Cum “Corrupt” is a very easy tag to put on a party, of course there’s corruption on every single party on earth, the question is how corrupt, inefficient or downright bad they are. Besides, corruption still happens in dictatorships.
Added to that, let’s imagine the same scenario but in a dictatorship: the leader is bad, then the successor is bad and the next guy is also bad. That’s easily 100 years of suffering in a much more realistic scenario (as it already has happened in north korea)
But what you are saying is that you’d prefer a dictatorship with a competent ruler right? Here’s the thing, 1 good ruler doesn’t guarantee that the next won’t be a disaster, and you have 0 choice in the matter. The truth is that dictatorships are (sadly) much more difficult to get rid pf than democracies.
I’m sorry if i couldn’t make my points very clear, english is not my first language
@@SamuelChac0n yea its less about how good dictatorships are and more about how shitty democracies are or better said the western style of democracy(which isn't a democracy). And indeed dictatorships are very flawed you have the roman empire and post-colonial africa as an example. Best way I can think of is 1 or more dictators in power whose actions are heavily regulated and checked by other people while also having like allot of advisors and ministers.
And how does he get chosen? Probably the person which is most capable in a mix of charisma, diplomacy and administration.
+adding to that
The people should have a vote in domestic affaires. The rules you wan't in the country everybody can vote for that.
And other shit people have totally no saying in like defensive wars, global affairs, trade relations, alliances etc.
Thats how my system would work but very basicallly.
@@SamuelChac0n Really, do they? Some people argue Putin is a dictator (not my personal opinion), yet he get's reelected. How many so called "dictators" have been removed in the past few decades by the west only to plunge their respective countries into absolute chaos by adopting western democracy? I don't argue the possible benefits of a democracy, but after a while every system gets corrupted and people look for alternatives, that's where "strong man figures" are elevated into seats of power to reign in the corruption. "La Terreur" in France was supposed to be a Republic, yet the French cheered when Napoleon became their leader and emperor. He was considered a villian by all the other monarchs in Europe. Yet so much of his legacy remains: The ideas of enlightenment and the concept of one people bound together by a common culture, language and history which was novel back then but formed the basis for all the present states in Europe. And the French still hold him in high regard.
On the other hand you have people like Oliver Cromwell who single handedly-destroyed any desire in England for a Republic for generations. That's what I mean with "who is in charge". The Roman Republic had become (at least in the eyes of the pleps) corrupt. Ceasar (and before him Sulla) presented an opportunity to change their situation, and the people were willing to take it, political participation be damned. From their point of view, the little influence they had, did not matter. So they sought a champion, who would fight for their cause. And as far as I can see most people don't give a damn if they have the right to vote or not. Either they don't vote at all or just keep on voting for the same old mantras and political propaganda they choose to believe. There are so few people out there who actually try to see through all that fog and who actually try to make the right choice at the ballot. Democracy requires real participation of it's people, the system on its own is worthless. Or even worse, it gives a government a sense of legitimacy which it possibly does not even deserve. By all means have a democracy, but if you have one, take part in it and don't let the politicians just "do their thing". The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. - Thomas Jefferson. That goes double in a democracy.
as an Italian, i obviously love my history. Italy was ground zero for many great Empires. The fall of Rome caused irreparable damage to Italy for years to come. Italy wasn’t unified until 1865 and caused many riffs between city states as a result of the Roman collapse. Not many talk about that
Not Many want to talk about that. Who wants to admit their ancestors fucked up their own empires and messed up so badly it took centuries to rebuild and not even close to its former power?
Can’t help thinking back to HBO’s awesome series Rome as I watch this video. Loved it. And it was a pretty good stab at accuracy (pun intended lol) too. ✌️
Cirian Hinds was definately a model for some of the artwork so that helps with the association.
Amazing content yet again, can't wait for a new series into the last civil war between Octavian and Anthony.
Awesome video! I’m really glad you guys continued up after Caesars death, I was really hoping you would. You don’t seem to see a lot of videos or anything about afterwards, looking forward to the next.
This channel knocks out some really awesome content and fast... I don't know how they do all these animations and still crank out content like this... truly amazing 👏
I just love all the Roman history and you guys keep giving me more and more of it ❤
This is the most interesting mini documentary I've ever listened to. Thank you for this
Fantastic series. I love the events of Republic to Empire, Octavian did some excellent political manoeuvring.
Thanks!
What a tragic moment for rome 😢
17 years later Pax Romana will be coming
Eh the plague may have been worse objectively
I feel bad for the poor man named Cinna. Imagine being torn apart because a bunch of lunatics thought you were someone else who had the same name.
@@knowledgedesk1653 then after that its decline and sacking
Such an epic ending with the music perfectly setting up the scene!! Can't wait the new episodes!
I find it kind of insane that Octavian used Mark Antony’s tricks against him, and Mark Antony didn’t even realise it.
Without the fine details of this as presented here it is impossible to get what happened . Kings and Gnerals do an excellent jobof presenting the important nuances. Very good indeed!
I love this Documentary so much bro Thx KNG for uploading and I hope they make more of this Documentary quickly
This episode was amazing :/
I don't know what was so amazing about it because I always found episodes without battles super boring, but man o man, this was PURE GOLD
Caesar: Strike me down and two more shall take my place!.
Senate: He is lying.
Violence insued.
Senator: Surprise face.
Two more didn't take his place. Many just went berserk in response.
Once more you overtake yourself in forging thin new epical Masterpiece.. the narration, the music in background, the suspence.. was simply Great! 10!
20 seconds after upload. Here we are watching another awesome Kings and Generals Video
Thank you so very much to the king's and Generals team for doing this...We want justice for Caesar..
Always amazed at all a 19 year old Octavian was able to achieve. Makes 19 year olds today seem so uninspired. He had to have been a little genius like the HBO TV series portrayed him as.
@grand nagus we must have different criteria for genius then because I didn't just watch HBO, I've read his biographies & history books. And his political maneuvers were brilliant. I'm a silly man? Rich coming from a person with the self complimentary title "grand" in their online name.
@@EagleLeader1 Are you deaf? He was a puppet. The people behind the throne advised him on the best course of action to defeat Anthony the tyrant. Ain't no twenty something going to defeat the top men in Rome Mr. Movie History Guy.
@@boblezaer4851 deaf? The ability to hear is not required to understand this video (captions duh) or, like I said above read his biography from accredited historians. If you're going to insult people who never insulted you, at least do it accurately. All the "top men of Rome" who meant to puppeteer him ended up being dead by his order & Octavian alive & ruling. Obviously he was at least smarter than them. You clearly only watched this video & never actually know the rest of the story, Octavian outsmarts all who meant to puppeteer him & becomes Rome's first Emperor, Augustus. Don't rely on a single video in a UA-cam series that didn't finish his story, I didn't just rely on HBO's series, I read what happens after this UA-cam video.
@@EagleLeader1 Go get more "history" from Access Hollywood you silly man.
@@EagleLeader1 You're a fool, Octavian was a special case born with specific circumstances that allowed him to achieve his status and it had nothing to do with his age, you pretentious ageist.
More on Ceasar's funeral- The mob rushed his funerary pyre and took charge of his remains, attempting to carry him to the temple of jupiter; the holiest (in their eyes) site in the city would burn to serve as Ceasar's pyre. The mob was prevented from approaching the temple, and they decided that if Jupiter's temple wouldn't serve to honor Ceasar, the whole of Rome would burn instead. They tore anything that would burn from nearby structures and set it ablaze. Men began throwing their weapons into the fire to burn with Ceasar, followed by others' jewelry and even the clothes off people's backs...
Oops! I thought they were skipping that part. Anyway, Historia Civilis is an amazing chanel!
He wouldn’t have been killed had Lucius Vorenus stayed with him!
Yeah, I do not understand why they didn't mention the role of senator Lucius Vorenus ;)
Truth be told I really don't think Vorenus would have made much of a difference. He was unarmed, toga'd, just as unaware as Caesar, and most of all extremely conservative/religious at that point in the show. What they did was sacrilege and undoubtedly would have stunned him just as much as it did Caesar and Antony. The reason he was so hyped up by the liberators was simply due to the fact those patricians were out of shape or old and they knew how to stall Antony but not him.
It doesn't matter how badass you are if 3 or more people get the drop on you, armed and up close, all at once. Antony said it himself later in the show "you know nothing of violence, a few mangey dogs can kill a lion."
@@pokeman5000 but everyone was super scared of his skills after he jumped in and killed those gladiators. No way Brutus goes against the great Vorenus.
The visuals, the narration, the music. GOOSEBUMPS!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Senate: You are on this council. But we do not grant you the rank of consul.
Octavian: What? How can you do this? This is outrageous. It’s unfair!
Found this channel yesterday and now i'm hooked. Can't wait for the next episode.
Glad to see this series back! thanks KnG
Just saying but I am really looking forward to seeing the battle of Forum Gallorum, the battle of Mutina, the battles of Philippi, the Sicilian war, Antonys Parthian War, The battle of Actium and the battle of Alexandria.
This was such a good Video!
Keep up the good work!
I am loving this videos about Roman, because I'm playing the Roman total war, and it's really interesting to do a comparison between my game play and the real history.
The channel is the best!
I love that Caesar is drawn to look like Ciarán Hinds
The fate of Brutus and Cassius always puts a smile on my face :)
“We did it!! We saved the Roman Republic!”
“Why do I hear boss music?”
Well done, yet again. K&G has knocked it out the park. All the best to you all
Eyes of Augustu's are full of passion and dreams even in Painting..
Your videos covering this period are absolutely amazing. Thanks.
Simon from Biographics spoke better about Augustus. You forgot to mention about Agrippa, who was influential for Octavian decision of go to Rome and claim his place as Caesar sucessor.
Simon from Biographics does his "research" on Wikipedia.
@@luciano9755 better than Twitter
Biographics is notoriously terrible
Wow, just wow... your quality of videos has really improved and you made fall in love with history again. Thank you, for all that you do.
"Wait, so you thought running around, covered in blood and screaming in the streets, would calm the public and restore order for a new republic?"
"Of course, why wouldn't it?"
I love that the animations look like the cast from the HBO series "ROME". I can't picture anyone but Ciaran Hinds as Caesar after that show.
I'm honestly gripped by this whole series
The quality of the videos is growing day after day. Quite good for us that love History! Really, thanks! Greetings from Brazil!
Wow Octavian's story is incredible. No wonder he is known as Augustus. To go up against the powerful... It wasn't easy
We also wanna see Augustus documentary
This video was fantastic
it is easy to get confused with Roman names and provinces
your illustration helped a lot
I have read a lot about Roman history and of this time period and you did a fantastic job in illustrating it
I am Impatiently waiting for the Next Part 😁😁
The last wars of the Roman Republic. After reading so much about Caesar, the wars of the successors will be as intriguing!
rumor says octavian is still looking furiously at the camera
Every time I'm just glued to the screen. Riveting stuff. Good work.
Caesar's assassination is the epitome of the metaphor "Better the devil you know..."
In other words, they got rid of the "king", only to end up with someone worse.
This is the best channel in the world, congratulation for you!!!!
U guys must make videos on Marius and sulla as well
Only recently found this channel and goddamn is it good! Just wish I had time to watch the long form videos
This period after Caesar and before the Principate will be very interesting to learn more about. I've read books of course, but a visual story will be great.
I'm hoping the actual years of Augustus' reign will also be gone over? Normally the story ends with him becoming Princeps, and then he suddenly becomes an old man. Those decades of rule will be very interesting to hear about.