What is the BEST PLATE REVERB PLUGIN?
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INDEX:
00:00 - Intro
00:58 - Which Plugins and Why?
03:09 - Default sounds
04:57 - Why the difference?
06:17 - Matching Timelapse (music by Darude)
07:13 - Comparing
12:57 - Conclusion
14:18 - Outro - Навчання та стиль
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BESTE PLATE REVERB PLUGIN?
Inpluggen van de kabel, die is aangesloten op het Gigantische-Plaat galm geplaatst op de tweede verdieping!
BEST PLATE REVERB PLUGIN?
The Pluging in of the Cable you have attached to the Gaint plate reverb you have Stationed Upstairs!!!!!!!!
lol
No plugin developer expected a youtube comparison involving a real plate. Respect.
Yes, love it!
Surely the main reason you can’t find the “best” one is because it’s completely subjective.
Thank u for that doorshut of an answer :) Cant say it better myself!
I like SoundToys Little Plate, has 3 knobs. Decay time, high pass, dry/wet.
Works great for me
Same!!
I got it for free during their giveaway. Love it!
@Eduard sounds just fine
Don’t forget the magic button - modulation
Really adds vibe to the reverb
@Eduard Lets agree to disagree
Arturia has a drop down window for further eq and modular it can get clean or funky I love it. And that gave it out on Christmas 🔥
It's insanely good for the fact that they gave it out for free. The 3 versions are all nicely different and great
The color and tail that plug puts on is really nice. I also love the Pad starting point on it.
I agree. I got it for free too. Great sound.
It wasn’t free! We all paid hundreds of dollars for their bundles So … an ”added” bonus but hardly Free
You beat me to it, I just posted about the extra options. I got it for free! I only have free reverbs haha. Raum is another great reverb that was free. And the CLA EchoSphere was also free.
Always expect so little from YTs audio algo it never ceases to amaze me the clear differences in these types of comparisons. Good work.
I love this. I just saw your tape emulation comparison video earlier today before this popped in my notification. So please keep making these videos. I am really trying to understand the plate sound and this helps.
Wow, love the format you took for shootout (comparing to hardware; and you didn’t pick a favorite)
Appreciate that you are trying new things on your channel. I loved this video!!
I like the format 'don't judge just listen' too actually.
I love this. Helps me discern the differences in plug-ins (and developers) without having to spend a day trying it myself. Thanks, man!
The Arturia Rev-140 has been my go-to recently. I got it for free a year or so ago and it really sounds great on snares, vox and guitars.
I think you missed the "Advanced" settings on the Arturia plug-in. If you click it, you can also set pre-delay, HP-filter, modulation and post EQ.
OH right, you saw this before me...
same for the "options" setting on the Multimedia one (but the Pre-delay, EQ, Filter, Decay knobs are already available without that).
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@@OdeMalikIdrus In his previous video on the rev plate-140, he is using the advanced controls, so I think that he just forgot about it.
Cool format - nice to hear the differences and characteristics between the plugins.
The amount of hours/days it (probably) took to produce This video deserves an award in of it self. You’re doing gods work my friend.
I have the Black Rooster Audio plate and I honestly like it quite a lot. Several types of "metal" to pick from and some tweakable knobs but all its basic settings. I can usually get the tone I want in just a few clicks.
great video. Thanks for the comparisons!
You are really passionate about these things we really need ppl like you on yt😂❤️
I think UVI PLATE should have been here I think it sounds pretty good.
Would highly suggest people check it out. Great natural plate sounds but also you can take it to some very weird places with the control they provide.
Went to the comments section to make the same comment. UVI Plate is superior, but comes with the price of high CPU usage (ofc depending on the chosen quality setting)
@@srosted it's expensive but when you consider it's sound just silky on almost anything and I think mostly modern budged CPU can run few of these instances. I use reaper and it only takes ~1% even at insane quality my CPU is Ryzen 5 3600. Amazing cpu
@@kmac. definitely forgot the control name 😅 it makes it sound metallic and kinda phasy but definitely cool.
Yep UVI plate is pretty good. Best I've heard
I personally really like the valhalla plate the most. It's the most versatile plate reverb on the market, and for 50usd it is also pretty affordable. I love using it on guitar and vocals, it has a really nice spacious sound! It might not be the most realistic one, but it definately has an amazing sound!
Arturia Rev plate 140 is great (my favourite sounding out of the ones I own) but my default is Valhallas
Transatlantic from rare signals seems to be a solid plate plugin.... if I see It on sale I will catch it! but my go to is the EMT-140 from UAD!
Love the Transatlantic
It's horrible in terms of CPU usage, esp. @ 96khz (I end up using Audiogridder to offload it), but it sounds AMAZING - just a tiny bit applied can add a 3d depth missing from just about every other reverb vst I've ever tried, and I've tried a lot, and have quite a few. Definitely best used as a send effect. The Arturia one is good, too. And Little Plate I like layered in with others (I don't like it as much on its own).
@@cfs Aren't plate reverb 2D sounding?
Great video. My favorite is the FabFilter Pro R Reverb. It has a very nice plate as well.
Very cool. They all sound good, and different!
I tried almost all of the plugins in your test myself for a project recently. My conclusion was that it completely depends on the context and individual track which of them I liked most. They all sounded best at something, but none sounded best at everything.
The Slate Lustrous Plates rules! That thing continually surprises me.
I think this format is extremely important. I've never seen posts like this on UA-cam, comparing multiple plug-ins with real hardware.
Arturia's and Abbey Road by Waves are by far, the best sounding plates! I know no ones asked for my opinion, I'm just voicing it out because things are quiet at work and I don't have much to do right now
Because plate plug in waves is the unique plugin great from waves.
Thank you so much for this video. It was very interesting to hear the differences. I adore th PlugIns from ValhallaDSP and this one was no exception.
Honestl I would love to see a video from you showing some reverb PlugIns. Not so much maybe for comparison but for artistic reasons. For example: Which reverb do you use for which effect the most.
Nice test! I personally love the Lexicon collection, including the Plate of course-)
I recently got the Arturia free with my Landr subscription, it's really impressive. The Rev X that I get with Steinberg is also fantastic. I've used OrilRiver on a few tracks aswell, it's hard to believe that it's completely free. Sad that it is no longer being updated, it was a genuinely good reverb, regardless of the price.
I’d vote for more comparisons like this. Dang, they all sound so different. Hard to choose. I personally liked the Hofa and the Denise the best in their sound. The question is, which one would be the best for an over the top 80’s drum track?
I wouldn't go with a mechanical plate for 80s sound. They are associated with 60s and 70s records. I would go with an algorithmic reverb. Particularly one of the Lexicon programs or the QRS (Quantec).
Valhalla Verb set on the 80s setting.
impulse plus dragonfly
Great comparison video
This is pretty interesting! What about a comparison of compressors that emulates a specific analog unit? For example the Altec 436 RS 124, it has lots of emulations out there, Waves, Acustica Audio Cream 2, United plugins Royal Compresor, The 1st mode on the Zener Limiter emulation by softube… tons of this thing heheh
IK always sounds AMAZING
UVI plate is also very good and possibly the most flexible.
The UAD plate reverbs are my personal favourites!
Lustrous, Sunset Sound, Arturia and EMT sound best to me. Seems like you'd need to roll some of the high end off the others for a better comparison.
I like this video! I think it would be great to do a follow-up video with a mix...maybe the top 3 plate reverb plugins that you liked in two different genres of music. =)
Hi, you are conducting a quite interesting comparison here. Thanks. What I would like to find out is, which plugin has the best CPU Performance vs which has best Sound, so in my experience most of the reverbation plugins can be really taking a lot of CPU away or introduce a lot of latency due to convolution FIRs with long Impulse Responses.
I think the Transatlantic Plate Reverb from Rare Signals is a must for this kind of video. Most amazing plate I've heard itb
yes the best ones are missing in this video.
@@nrosko Which more do you think is missing here?
@@FaZ112233 Transatlantic Plate Reverb, SSL Verb, Pro-R and the UAD EMT 140 !
@@FaZ112233 Rare signals, UVI Plate & Sound toys little plate.
Transatlantic 😍
When you talk about reverb I always remember this! Once a time a guy said "This doesn't sounds like My Plate!"
Put White Noise into an Impulse Response Plugin. That’s as “PERFECT” as it gets. No Joke!
what? how is that reverb
@@boimesa8190 Try it! You will have to add a decay, otherwise it will sound like a NonLin/Gated verb that's just as long as the whitenoise sample. You can also add pre-delay.
@@mollygriswold7979 but with what purpose..?
@@boimesa8190 The sound of a plate reverb is often preferred because of it's diffusion and density over other types. If you want the most diffuse and dense reverb possible, this is how to create it. In fact, from a technical standpoint I would say it's impossible to create a more diffuse/dense verb than using whitenoise (maybe whitenoise at 192kHz?).
been there, done that!
beware the quality of the randomizer in the source generator, some will fail in horribly sounding ways...
Thanks and please do more. One suggestion: match the volumes; the difference in output levels was making a listening comparison difficult.
This is fantastic - was really surprised with the differences. You should try UVI Plate and Black Rooster Audio RO-140
I ask myself that question at least once a year!
i think transatlantic plate and gold plate by kush audio are a couple really good options to check out.
seventh heaven on the go 🔥
I bought it because of the demos but I don't use it much if at all in real life. Disappointing to say the least.
@@victorbarnes6898 Are you tone deaf?
@@vladjones2446 Perfect pitch.
@@vladjones2446 I tune guitars in under 10 seconds.
@@victorbarnes6898 I tune them in 8 secs with relative pitch!
Thanks for the video. I think Black Rooster Audio's RO-140 would have been interesting to include as well.
My go to is Slate Digital - VerbSuite Classics - Drums - Wide Snare Plate. I just dial the gain and Dry / Wet way down and adjust Decay and EQ and its all good.
Little plate, rare signal & UVI should be included IMO. Those are my go-to plate reverbs.
which UVI plugin do you like for reverb?
Again an awesome video… I have a few of them… trying to down size because I have too many plugins…. Lol
great work. level matching in some cases seemed to be the biggest difference
Would have loved it if you volume matched them all a little more closely together.
Agree. Loudness was quite different in some.
I personally like this kind of videos ! It makes me loose less hair trying to find a good plugin !
BTW : Arturia plate has an eq section that you can open by clicking the top right expand button.
Quick question, do you tape these a while ago and then take a while to edit them before posting? It's just that I can't help but notice you're on Reaper 6.30, when they've been on 6.32 now since the 9th? Or are you cautious about updating until you know everything works?
Great vid, btw.
I bet you that he doesn't really care that much if he's up to date with it. I love reaper for how actively developed it is, but I honestly rarely ever use the new features that get implemented. I could easily work off Reaper 6.0 and barely notice the difference.
@@mattheasboelter5217 That's probably the case.
I like how they sound all together 😂
I wonder what kind of reverb is on Sandstorm by Darude? :) Great video! Keep doing more content like this!
I'm pretty impressed with the LiquidSonics plug!
I'd really like to see you mention CPU usage and plugin latency when doing these, it's a huge factor for me and I assume a lot of producers, for example I love how the denise audio plugins sound but they have SO MUCH latency it's really hard to use them anywhere
yeah!! That's important!
I'm having the same problem with their plugins. I hope when I upgrade my PC that latency disappears because they're pretty much unusable at the moment unless I'm doing sound design sessions.
@@odnilniloc sadly the only thing a better pc could improve is CPU usage, the latency is coded into the plugin
yep. notice waves hogged up 3% CPU to do the same (or less) than Valhalla at 0.2%. waves is 15 times less efficient! Valhalla is the most efficient of them all by far!
I demoed one of their plugins once and it was a complete waste of CPU.
Can't believe I just listened to a grown man bang a garbage can lid in an office building stairway a hundred times and talk about it! Yes please tdo more of the same, though, and I did listen all the way through! I'm surprised how off Valhalla was! I think in this case everything was so varied -- which matches real plates too you said -- make this more interesting than useful in making a choice. I think it would be good in future comparisons to take maybe the three most interesting and hear them en la sandstorm. Thank you!
Any plate reverb plugin list without the UAD EMT 140 is kidding itself tbh
well... thanks for showing the brands out there
Yours is fairly dark compared to all of them. It's taken many years for me to enjoy digital plate verbs.
The only one I have out of these is the Arturia. I've played with the Abby Road on a friend's system.
The Arturia sounds very nice and usable in any context.... and it's simple(my preference 😏 ). It's my main go to voc verb. The Abby Road also sounds very nice in context of a track.
Valhalla is a great sounding verb period, but not my choice for pure plate duty.
Could you do a saturation shoot out, please 😊🙏
People think you don't have to oversample on reverb, But there's actually enough modulation that they do create some aliasing. Especially ones that add saturation.
this was a lot of work, great job. as for feedback, i like this format but it's probably worthwhile to sometimes do it with a smaller selection in a little more detail, possibly with part 1 part 2 etc videos to shootout another group. and then there would be the option to ultimately shoot out the favorites from all of those previous groups. i understand the efficiency of using a snare, but a brief selection of other material (including human voice i hope) would probably be worthwhile.
Please, do more plugin comparisons! Very good. It's very boring to have to always compare my own plugins so if you can do this job would be incredible!! Thanks
level matching them would be good there were some huge level differences
Arguably, the plug-in makers should have made it competitively loud compared to the next plate reverb. 👀
@This Guy Some plugins have a way too hot output. Synthmaster goes into clipping almost instantly if you aren't careful. Don't think there would be a loudness war in plugins though; many plugins work around dynamic range management (so having loudness maximation would be stupid) and most have a mix knob or output control.
@@CLdwyer i mean once he changed every setting to try and match the real plate.. he needed to match those levels in his daw..
Almost all plug ins out put is too loud on the default setting. They do this so you think it sounds better when you first try it
Suprised with the Sunset plugin. Likeeee it. 🤩
Could I have spotted a small bottle of Snakeoil in the Ridge Wallet advertisement ? On top of the Sony Box in the background ?
Heeeey! :) I hoped for the u-he Twangström to appear in your list. It's even allow to shake the springs!
Twangström is a spring reverb not a plate!.😉
Most unique plate reverb : Wytses plate inside windmill ! Or underwater EMT !
I use mainly slate vintage verb but they are more digital style plates (I usually use the bm7 plates which I find beautiful in vocals) , I do occasionally use lustrous plates though it sometimes completely makes my session fall apart but cubase is a pain like that. I have tried Abbey road plates but doesn't work so well for the more lush mixes I go for. Your EMT definitely has a certain sound to it, quite dark with this interesting knock in the attack and modulation in the decay. Personally I preferred alot of the plugins, but they sound more similar, your EMT reminds me of some 60s recordings and reggae/dub tracks.
what would be the best plate reverb plugins for vocals, 3rd party plugin. (my DAW is FL studio)
Love this kind of comparisons but would like a more conclusive conclusion ;)
Very great demo - the best I'd found was the Valhalla Vintage Verb set to Sanctuary - EMT-250 - Big Snare, that is until... I just got the Arturia Rev-Plate 140 and I have to say it does sound pretty realistic ;-)
The EMT 250 isn't a plate reverb.
@@victorbarnes6898 True, great sound though
The current Arturia Rev Plate 140 has many hidden advanced controls you missed- click on upper right. Also now works in Win. 7 for us die hards.
Soundtoys Little Plate is also a great plugin. I'm so happy with it that I don't really feel the need to get another plate for a long time.
I’ve been diggin the Black Rooster RO-140 lately.
...and if you hurry you might still be able to catch the deal for $29!
Great deal on a great verb.
I grabbed their StayHome bundle during the pandemic. It was about $150 for every plugin they make and I have zero regrets. The reverb was a surprise to me. Didn't expect it to be as good as it was
They sounded great. You should get them all and put a dartboard in the control room. Let the dart you throw decide which reverb plug to use 😅
Soundtoys Little Plate reverb is allready mentioned a lot, but I love that one too. I don't own a lot of them, but I use the Strymonn Bluesky (pedal) and the Satanverb (not sure if it's really plate reverb, but I guess it sounds like one. And offcourse the Reaverb.
Do you ever review Kush plugins? Would like to hear your thoughts om that operation.
Did you see the advanced button on the arturia plate? they often hide foldout menus there and the plate has one.
When auditioning the default settings, keep in mind that some developers set the mix knob to 100%, assuming that most people will use the reverb on a bus as opposed to inserting an instance into each channel's effects box, In which case, a 50% setting would be more appropriate..
How come there are hardly any spring reverb plugins??
The spring reverb in Amplitube is pretty good but I want to be able to run it 100% wet on a bus and without the CPU of the entire Amplitube plugin.
I know this was years ago but maybe it's time for an update? I use plate on lead guitar and tried all the free demos I could find. Listening to your test, I find that none of them have the deep density of your EMT, and that was exactly why I turned down most of those I demoed. To my own surprise SoundToys Little Plate was really superior to everything else. It truly sounds like a plate - and even has the cool infinity setting. I since upgraded to the new Super Plate with more features but sound quality-wise they are equal.
Was that the 'Sandstorm by Darude' snare? Fabfilter Pro-R in there somewhere?
“Liquid Lustrious” hahahahah. That really hit me for some reason.
you know I can't believe I've never asked that question working almost exclusively with vocals.
I just played this game.
I stopped at 15 🙄
There were a couple of surprises in there for me.
When choosing while mixing, I'll usually chuck some on and stop when I hear one I like for that job.
I'd usually start with the Arturia plate or Soundtoys Little Plate.
Honourable mentions for today:-
Dragonfly Plate
Phoenixverb
Xenoverb
Melda Convolution
Presonus' OpenAir (inside Studio One)
TAL II & III
Waves H-Verb
Waves R-Verb
I could make any of the above work for me I reckon.
I think the UAD EMT 140 sounds a lot like your physical EMT.
Agreed, nice and thick
Probably the most boring reverb in history! That said, I like plate reverbs but I have never got it right with that one.
@Epic Terry Be glad you can´t afford UAD plugin, they are highly overrated! They where top notch ten to fifteen years ago, not today. I own almost all of them and seldom use them. The only one I use in every session is the MDWEQ5. It´s very good for finding nasty frequencies.
@@michaelwirth6843 the filters on that MDW are really good. My fav by far of most EQ’s. I do still think UAD is making some of the best, scientifically reliable plugins. No DAW is mimicking what Unison is capable of too. But there is more out there. I’m picky about what manufacturers to trust. The plug-in market overall is hyped. Not just UA.
@@michaelwirth6843 and on their 140. It’s not my absolute favorite but it’s good when I want a diffuse space that’s unobtrusive. But not everyone is into “dry-sounding” reverb. My absolute fav - Transatlantic Plate. But it’s so standout, it could be overused. You have a fav plate?
They are all good. The main question is best for what?
It depends of your situation, mix, genre etc.
I would use anyone of those and sculp it further to my needs.
In the end, audience would recognize the diference only if you slap bitcrusher at the end. :)
Why didn't you include the hardware Yamaha SPX90? As I recall you particularly liked the plate patch on those for snare.
EMT 140 acoustic impulses and any convolution reverb (mostly S.I.R 2) is what i use..
thanks for this ..new sub :)
I like convolution reverb. It's as simple as scrolling through impulse responses.
I think another interesting reverb is the VSS3, it is really complete
Really wasn’t expect White Sea repping New Orleans with that music
What you think of the McDsp 6050 and or 6060?
the Arturia has more settings if you press the "advanced" button (eq, modulation etc)
Great video! my faves are
1.Arturia RevPlate 140
2.Waves Abbey Road Plate
3.LiquidSonics Lustrous Plates
4.IK Multimedia Sunset Plate
5.Hofa IQ reverb V2
6.Acon Digital Verberate
The others were ok.
what about Denise?
VSS3 Golden plate is lovely.
I also own abbey road which is different but characterful.
Sandstorm by Darude sounds pretty good even in fast-forward. 👍🏻