Confessions of a Copywriter
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Jim Clair is a Whistleblowing Copywriter unmasking the "gurus" he worked with. He writes at jimclair.com, blogging about copywriting and books. He worked on VenusFactor, Yogaburn and many others and has a decade of experience in the industry and has seen it all.
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"I'm asking for snitches" hahahaha
I need the Tekashi69 of Agora. 🙏🙏🙏
Can somebody for the LOVE of God get Coffezilla to investigate the multi billion dollar pHARMaceutical industry that hide cures and pushes poisons as medicine
@@CraigC55 yes. And the Rona scandal
@@Coffeezilla This guy looks like if Rich Piana and Dan Bilzerian somehow had a kid together
@@CraigC55 what proof do you have that Big Pharma is hiding cures?
Thought that was dan bilzerian
Lol true
...until I read your comment... I'm not gonna lie.
Though it was a young Brian Blessed in the thumbnail.
Very useful comment. Me too
Same 🤤
I did door to door sales very briefly. On my first day I carpooled with two guys who were supposed to show me the ropes. The guy driving unironically played audio of a speech from Wolf of Wallstreet to motivate us. After that he played Gordon Gecko's greed is good speech followed by Alec Baldwin's speech at the beginning of Glengarry Glen Ross. It was obvious that he completely missed the point of what these scenes were meant to express. His misreading of them was cartoonishly absurd, yet it emboldened his #grinding mentality.
Sup Oki.
Did you snort a gram each to "motivate" you and reach your sales goals?
Must be good to sell grinding your teeth...😅🤣🤪.
What a douchebag squad leader
Oki! How about a new video? It's been a couple of years. Always looking forward to your stuff.
Yes please - a new video 🤗 on another note if you’ve been in the trenches you know how many sales people take what is satire and use it as motivation 😂😂😂 personally guilty myself ✋🏾
He is a classic psychopath...
That sleepy pup in the background though
:) I loved gets up for short period.. turns around couple of yawns and back to sleep :)
Yeah, right after getting off the shock of him looking like Dan Bilzerian, that was my focus. Aww!
That’s not a pup. It’s mid sized dog at least.
This guy is very aware of the toxic ideology in these self-help circles. Almost everything he says makes me feel relieved that someone else is aware of that as well.
Dude has the manliest beard I've ever seen
Please do more with this copywriter. I actually learned a good deal about the craft
He blogs at jimclair.com
@@Pokarface7 thank you 👍🏽
@@kidfisch it's in the video description, lol. I subscribed to his newsletter :-)
Former blogger here - I worked for one company. That ran about 15 blogs. We published 20 - 50 pieces of content a day. 8 different writers with backstories - Instagrams - Facebook's. It was all me. I even posted comments having conversations with my self as the different writers / random readers .... All bullshit.... 30% of the interactions on FB /comments on the blogs were real people .... The rest were me and my coworkers.
hahaaha
Wait, why? To sell ads? Products? Sorry, haven't watched the whole interview yet so maybe it's answered
I can usually tell when a UA-cam does this, and yes, I can tell that 70% of the comments are written by the same person.
I can tell that one major UA-cam that has taken over everyone's algorithm lately does this.
@@ImaNPCman name names dude!
@@dudewhodoesdopeshit i don't like naming names when i can't confirm it, but I alledge ANDREW TATE!!!!
I alledge he has an army of people writing comments on his behalf as per his instructions.
"I run a successful business in the business of success." Fake gurus' business is nearly a palindrome lol
Nice observation XD
Hey Spencer! I love your channel. Your early videos were very inspirational for me.
I totally Agree with you my man 💯💯 these Fake gurus are selling dreams to vulnerable people (especially people who feel hopelessness).
And I know this is abrupt, you probably won't see this, but I'll take my shot.
The things that you're doing, is helping a Lot of people (that's including me). And you deserve more love and recognition for it.
My good friend was victimized and scammed by a person that works for someone (Someone's famous and one of the biggest in social media out there) I won't name, names...But I'll reveal it to you if you like.
I wanted to also spread awareness and get the word out there like what you're doing.
These "gurus" are not just scamming people but also Hurting them. Selling them Fake dreams.
Anyhow, I would Love to invite you to come as guest on my show. It would be an Honor.
Can somebody for the LOVE of God get Coffezilla to investigate the multi billion dollar pHARMaceutical industry that hide cures and pushes poisons as medicine
@@henryearnest5098 why don't you reveal names? It will help us to start calling out names so we find real instructors, mentors, etc.
Yeah yeah yeah, he looks like Dan and yeah he has a great friggin beard, but is no one gonna talk about that marvelous dog? Homie is chillin like the goodest of all boys in the back
Shit I didn’t even see the dog before I read this comment. What a good boi
I thought the same thing!!
He drugged the dog actually.. this was in the news and everything.
@@Jeff-jl2xc context? What do I search to get the who thing??
I'm gonna start this comment by saying I have autism.
Anyway, if I see a pet in the background, particularly the lower part of the screen, sometimes I get so zoned into the doggo or mew that I zone out of what's being said. So I have to put the subtitles on to cover them up so I'm not counting the seconds until they twitch or something. I love fuzzy inside creatures (and outside creatures too) so much. Every day I marvel that my cat is actually real. A living stuffed animal who just walks up and wants to sit on my lap and I'm so honored. She's such a good girl
Why is it whenever i hear word copywriter my brain processes Dan Lok
He’s used his copywriting story and told made videos about copywriting a gazillion times
Mahn same!
These guys hurt the reputation of good copywriters.
@@beep7 you are right
Dan Lok is not a copywriter he is a copy cat writer.
As a direct response copywriter, this guy’s claims are true. There are a lot of unethical copywriters who are desperate for money.
How do you become a copywriter in this kind of atmosphere? I'm looking at doing it, but I've been stalling the online game due to the amount of manipulation that's promoted and that
I notice a lot of desperate copywriters use "away from" copy which leads to high refund rates
@@Catthepunkbuy a course
@@alexmunoz6682 yeah, I don't think so.
Clicked for the Dan Bilzerian, stayed for the coffeezilla
Me: Can we get Dan Bilzerian?
Mom: We got Dan Bilzerian at home
Dan Bilzerian at Home:
This one is actually smart though, and better looking
LOL LOL LOL
LOL!!
So good!
I don't see you in comment sections anymore, man
Are you alright?
“They got kicked off of Google, Facebook Amazon and try to get back in the game. Man you got kicked off the whole internet practically” LMAO Dan Bilzerian is really exposing the industry 😅😂
A big timer guru actually admitted to the fraud in this industry! I was on a "training" a while back with a guru. This was about 4 years ago. And the guy was teaching people to build a list and send them offers from click bank. He was talking about the weight-loss niche and someone asked about the list drying out after one purchase since these people would've gotten their solution and he literally admitted in explicit words, that these offers don't work so they'll always be looking for the next things. These people will push out shitty products, preying on people's insecurities just for commissions. Ethics are the last concern for these shit heads.
I love how the ad breaks are literally affiliate marketing scam videos 😆. I also enjoyed Dan Bilzerians nicer brother.
LOL
Wow. What is amazing that those people stand up and have a platform to speak out. I get it that I can be very hard because of the income. Coffee you are building a unique front line to the bullshit we see in this world. And not only in sales but in the overall state of human greed I notice every day. Very grateful for your content.
very good interview. copywriting is the core of marketing, its like formulating an algorithm for the triggers for people; 'how do we get more people to spend money'. i equate it to the same thing that the highest paid 'algorithm-programming' people at google/facebook/tiktok do, which is essentially figure out 'how do we get people to spend more time'. Its a power. And as all power, its a double-edged sword.
Although I don't know much about your business John Crestani, you do have a good point. By the way... am I the only noticing Jim's slurred speech? I kinda feel bad for him, he comes across as being under some sort of substance, and also, maybe he is a disgruntled employee? And Coffezila, I like you and you are talking about others being exploited, but you also come across as exploiting Jim here as well in a way... Just calling it like I see it. There is a little bit of truth to everything my friend.
@Horatio D I keep saying
@@alexsevilla7849 he spoke very clearly in my opinion - I don't notice any slurring personally. He made very cogent points and exposés as well. A quite put-together fellow; whether on some substance or not.
@Horatio D The whole "working from home" or "holiday lifestyle" comes from people who built real businesses and eventually palmed off the responsibilities while staying as a shareholder in their business (making money for nothing, other than the blood sweat and tears of getting the business to that point). Anyone who thinks they can make millions on their laptop without any effort is fooling themselves.
To that point, I was going to write a book about building businesses properly (to achieve that lifestyle) however it would be too technical and probably wouldn't do well as a book - maybe someday.
I’m a Copywriter, and unfortunately this is VERY true. Today we have a lot of fake gurus in this industry. We have A LOT of unethical copywriters.
Same here brother 90% scammers 10% ethical writers industries going down the toilet
It is sad. They also suck at copy.
This man is dropping names and brought the receipts. I love it.
I've decided that you are a genuine light in the darkness. You keep going so good on you. Keep it up.
SOLID
I’d like to take a moment to honor Sgt. Kyle Cooper for his unparalleled service to his men and his country....
The funniest part is Chris Kyle was mostly full of shit as well.
He named himself after a fraud lol.
This was a magnetic interview. Man, I don't typically watch interviews like these but this was impossible to turn away from! Great interviewer AND interviewee! I had no clue how much self-deception is happening that maybe some of these guys are even aware off. Everything becomes statistics. What an enlightening discussion.
Man, I'm a Copywriter. Some of my colleagues work on very suspicious offers. Especially medical, finance, coaching
And Agora is just so scammy
@@fawazsullia5620 agora converts like crazy
bicep flexor your comment just feeds into fawaz’s point
@@elijahgavin6706 yeah I'm just pointing out their good conversion rate
@@stormspinner9000 ofcourse. If you make such big promises and manipulate data and words to back those promises, anything will convert.
ugh. my parents have fallen for sooo many of these . they are way into holistic medicine because of shit like this. its also the reason ive never been to a hospital in my life even though ive broken my arm and split my knee to the bone twice. belief are a hell of a drug
Bruh I’m sorry that is abuse. Sorry your parents were like that. Happened to my friend too who had no vaccines growing up. He went and got ‘em himself. Good luck brother
The sweet sleepy dog in the back has seen and heard it all.
I know! So precious 🥰
That dog was tired.
Oh, so its not a pile of leather coats lmaooo
I bet he walked him and played frisbee or something. Seems like a good doggo
Or... Stuffed.
This guy must be legit because he can't even afford a good microphone
dont give the gurus any ideas now
he's not the scammer.. he's the writer for the scammer. Good typing needed not good microphone.
His magnificent beard muffled his voice obviously
@@zainiadnan2335 I want beard like that!
Can smell a disciple of some "copywriting guru" being buTTh*rt
As a copywriter who actually works in this industry, of course there will always be those that just say whatever to make sales... But if you conduct business that way, eventually you will get shut down for it. Real companies out there have legal teams that go through and make sure everything is ethical and true. There are a lot of great companies out there that do it the right way. Don't just fall for the fact that everything is a scam or everyone in marketing is liars.
If you work in THIS industry Im not sure what youre talking about its wall to wall scams I've worked in it. Copywriting and marketing isnt scammy by nature... but these clickbank scams are.
NOT TRUE. The legal compliance teams form the largest part of the fraud. Can't find the link now, but IIRC, when finance and health got more regulated, the result was that the misrepresentations continued, but in a way that complies with formal regulations.
Basically all finance/health copywriters lean towards being unethical. We have an incredibly small number of truly reliable financial instruments, and you should only be buying health products that you REALLY NEED. So we don't need big new financial opportunities, and any health products we buy we'd have acquired with or without excessive advertising. While people are always looking out for financial opportunities, the truly valuable opportunities cant be packaged up and offered to every Tom, Dick, and Harry. So it's BS.
I dont think anyone was saying that copywriting is a scam. They literally said these scumbags are burning bridges behind them until they crash and burn
I don't think everyone in the industry is a scammer.
But a REALLY good tell is when someone goes onto a video SPECIFICALLY talking about the scammy ones to get defensive and go "Well it's not ALL of us!"
This is too amazing - right before this video, I got an ad about a course teaching you how to create your own course!
I’m a professional copywriter.
And it fucking pisses me off, how these gurus and BS artist have trashed my professions image.
But let me reassure you. Us real marketers and copywriters, despise these guys too.
Same brother. I can’t believe copywriting is primarily associated with shills and scam artists now. Crazy.
You know, you could speak at Harvard.
Thank you for letting him talk... Good interviewing skills!
These copywriters are better at making stories than hollywood..
When you train to become a writer for Agora, they actually have a physical doll you receive called 'Grandpa Kurt', who is their exact customer avatar. Youre ALWAYS writing to grandpa Kurt.
Now that's creepy
😂
Thank you Stephen King. 🙄
I never really comment on YT videos, but I had to comment on this one. Everything is so spot on! Everything from the forced positivity to the scammers being scammed themselves and actually falling for their own bullshit. I've seen the vicious and addictive cycle in people I know. I was in it for a few months but realised what was happening so I stepped away and opted for a slow organic blog where I just write about whatever I want.
I wish everyone could watch this video - the cult is growing and it's sad seeing these people get sucked in and suck others in.
The Napoleon Hill thing is spot on too. Such a conman.
YESSSSSSSSS !! Omg someone comes out and tells about the story telling !!! Soon as he said Heros Journey story telling... Boy oh boy I could tell you all about that... And all the other b.s that manipulates people into thinking the story is true !! WAKE UP 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Awesome vid, thank you for spreading the message!! Wondering if I should contact you 🤔
This channel deserves a Netflix series 🤙🏼
A story is not told to make people believe that the story is true. It is to tell people, ' hey, is this your story?'.
But yes, stories in some commercials want people to believe that the story is real
People buy things from people they trust & relate to ** Who would buy from someone who is clearly fabricating a story... The story has to be believable that w.e challenge occured, has been overcome..more than likely by or with the help of the "product" they're trying to sell you. "hey, is this your story? Hey, is this your truth?... Cause if it is, then you & I are both alike, and if it wasnt for this product I have here today, I wouldn't be standing in front of you now. Remember the story?"
Every time I see an ad like that in my email, I get instantly pissed off. Insulting to the intelligence of a reasonably prudent person.
And to think that these stories, not only drive most conspiracy theories nowadays, but also political beliefs themselves. Like majority of what is dividing society is not even the politicians, but the very bs created by a bunch of scammers looking to make a buck. Like lets put our differences aside and realize that majority of our conflicts, were simply started by a bunch of desperate scam artists, not even some secret elite force or crap, but simply bunch of desperate mediocres looking to make a buck by turning a simple snake oil sand on a beach sell, into a whole cult and political campaign. All because some scammer told a story... to make a quick buck...
Shit, I can’t be the only one who thought this was Dan Bilzerian... 😂
Same!
Nah Yukon Cornelius...
Yeah, I thought it was Dan Bilzerean as well
But he is too smart to be Dan lol
It actually is .
I've been a copywriter for 13 years and I have never worked for a company that did not vet my copy through a legal team that made me back up every claim, source, quote and statistic. I imagine there are some real crackerjack operations out there but don't let this video make you think we're all con artists...
Totally. You can be a copywriter with a great value product too. There’s some good points in this video but it’s biased too.
Exactly copyzilla so full of shit some ppl are scammers yes but he trying to expose ppl that arent even scaming and hes really doing a diservice because Ive learned a lot by taking courses from ppl in his videos and have made money and bettered my life and hes scaring ppl away from taking a course and bettering there life
Thank you. Yes - there are many unethical copywriters and marketers out there. But they are not the majority. Most of us do our research, make sure we are not making false claims, and write about products and services we believe in. Also, legal teams love to set copywriters straight on what to and not to say... so there's that hehe.
Agreed. You don't have to be a sophist tricking the unsophisticated. Copywriting is a tool. Some people use it ethically, some not. Might as well make a video about how hammers are dangerous muder weapons that should be exposed because some people use them violently.
@@jayking3159 wire me a thousand bucks and ill believe you
Damn not only is the dude exposing the scams but he's looking handsome doing it! i truly mean it, that's one dashing dude.
“Are people just wanting a dad, or what?!” Another great interview!
For those learning, this video is better than any course ever made,
This was really eye-opening, especially the way he said they pile on claims, so something that isn't true becomes credible... I don't think of myself as being gullible, but that tactic in the right context could maybe get me! (like coming from a brand I already trust). It's crazy how you can influence people just with rhetoric. Thank you, aside from the fake guru sphere, this is quite a good reminder to be critical with regular ads
Love the warnings about the smarmy, scammy companies - so helpful and saved me probably thousands of dollars. Thank you! On behalf of my husband and 4 young kids. I was on the cusp of falling into a couple of these traps. Could you please do an episode on legitimate, ethical Cooywriting practices and resources we can learn from or go to that won't suck us down a rabbit hole? I have a legitimate academic writing background and got additional training for grant writing, specifically, when I worked for a legitimate non-profit. There are great organizations with ethical standards in that space that help protect organizations, foundations, and writers. But there are none or they are hard to distinguish in the Copywriting space. Especially now with content becoming the monolith...
There are books by marketers etc. that are worth the $12 or audible credit you might spend on them - times 10.
Can you highlight to good guys in an episode so we know which one's we can trust?
Kudos to this work you do as scams are getting soooooooo common online. I'm grateful for it.
Thank you. May this channel meet much more success.
the dog taking a nap in the background in honestly the best part of this whole intervview
This was an awesome interview. I cannot believe it's taken this long for me to start seeing these conversations happen in public.
I've worked in digital marketing for 7 years. When I was starting out I had a similar experience as Jim. I worked at a guru-focused ad agency (also located in a basement) that was shut down by Facebook's lawyers just a few months after I started. I did advertising for a number of gurus on my own and even did some work for Agora for a little while. Thankfully I've moved on to bigger and better things...
I need someone in the digital marketing field to be my mentor!!! Would u be interested in helping? I just started learning and not sure what direction to go...what hard skills I need to focus on!
how was working with agora?
What are you up to now a days?
Let me make a confession too ! I joined Dan Lok copywriting course called " High Income Copywriters" and half way through I saw these kind of stuff. They trying to make look like you get a skill, but then you basically learn to write these long "Sales Letters" that I always hated to read because I saw the deception in them. So no way I was going to hate myself now. I finished the course but never pursued that "Skill" any further.
There are other kinds of Copywriting. Not just scammy sales copy
fawaz sullia where is the best place to start if you are looking at getting into copywriting? the ethical kind of course!
@Sam N that's a shame as copywriting is one of the best income producing skills on the planet.
@@StefanGeorgi1 which one, the Agora/Dan Lok style or the legit one. I can do copywriting now but not the fraudulent one
@@gavinscott2821 check out CopySchool by Copyhackers. You can join Copyhackers Tutorial Tuesdays for free to get a glimpse of copy skills you’d learn; just sign up for the email list. They also have all the past Tutorial Tuesdays published on the website.
Your channel is very important. This kind of information is what we need
Before watching this. I think copywriting seems like a fun profession. And a good job to obtain
Edit: now seems like a waste of time
Every coin has two sides. Just choose the good one. Take a look at Stefan Giorgi
Have a service or a product that adds value to someones life that people wanna buy and market it with the FACTS of why it's worth what you are charging.
Anything other than that is a waste of time.
@Tanner Lewis It's one of the most useful skills you can learn, if you think its a waste of time you're only hearing from Agora or Raging Bull or all the other stupid companies who use its power to manipulate and steal from vulnerable people.
Copywriting is the foundation for marketing, if you learn it and you want to get into business you're going to be miles ahead of everyone else. Someone has to know it in your company at the least, its a mandatory skill (or hire a marketing team)
If you've created a product and/or service on you're own, copywriting can net you a good return. Definitely not a waste of time.
One of the more important videos on your channel. Jim has shared a lot of what goes on in the direct response copywriting world.
Fun fact about stretch claims and ethical statistics. You know the shower conditioners that say "now with 87% healthier hair after 3 weeks" or whatever? They're definitely implying that their conditioner is 87% better than the competition, but if you read the asterisk, those numbers are usually from an in house lab and are comparing that company's shampoo, conditioner, and deep conditioning treatment to just using shampoo by itself. So. Yah. Your hair's gonna be healthier if you condition it. Thanks.
DAN LOK FORMULA, I tried this I tried that until I discover high income skill? I DISCOVER WHAT?? HIGH INCOME SKILSS!’
I actually legit burst out laughing 😂😂😂 accuracy levels 1000
Might as well have said go to university and study medicine, law or business ect.
Looks like Dan Bilzerian and John Crestani merged into one person
Dan Crestani
@@rustyray420 John Bilzerian
This guy NEEDS an episode on Joe Rogan
Already did one, before he lost 50 million dollars!
@@likemysnopp are you joking that he is dan?
CoffeeZillq is the new Rogan
As long as the ad-copy is honest, there's nothing wrong with copy writing. Based off this interview, it seems like the guy (who is super knowledgeable) worked in certain industries that are rife for hype.
couldn't agree more bro
This is marketing 101 , evolved in the mass market media information age.
You dont have to knock on anyone's door anymore. You will reach them directly through internet, with any stupid pitch.
You should react to the Kumare documentary(about a guy trying to fake being a guru with the intent of revealing what he did to his followers to teach about cults forming).
I thought Dan Bilzerian came to talk to Coffeezilla
I feel bad for Dan B.. I take it back. No sympathy for FAKE gurus/scammers
Those people who exploit old and deseperated person should be in prison wit severe penality
Coffeezilla love the snake oil background. You are good.xx
Ripped shredded & lean,sounds like an awesome salad.
I love this guys story telling and voice impressions!
1.7 Million is what a preacher and his wife got off a neighbor of my Mother in Cocoa Beach. She was 88 when she was dropped off at a County Nursing home with $27 in her purse and a savings account book that her social security check of $910 was deposited into. The balance of that account was less than $200.
It doesn’t have to be a scam or used in a sense that’s scamy. It’s writing a sales page to get somebody to buy a product. It’s marketing. You don’t have to lie or be fake about it.
They’re talking about the people who go to any lengths to turn conversions. A lot of the biggest copwrighting gurus we see do just that
Elijah Gavin Which ones? Name them
@@elijahgavin6706 the problem is that ALL copywriters go to any length to get that conversion. That is the game. I’m a copywriter myself and I’ve told my clients that I’m not here to get rich, but I’m here to help out you and your business. I position myself to look like I care for you and I believe that most of the time nowadays when in actuality I just want a pay check from you. Ethical. Maybe or maybe not. At the end of the day I have made a shit ton of money from copywriting.
Ricky Ihaka what’s the easiest way to learn copywriting and get clients? Do you need to have a brand with your face on it or can you do it behind the scenes?
@@elijahgavin6706 I said it before. Positioning and patience. Don’t just position yourself as a copywriter, no position your life around copywriting. Sooner or later you’ll be thinking in headlines and talk to people as of you are selling them something. Idk I don’t mentor I don’t sell course because that’s not what I want to do. I love writing copy because it’s fun for me. Call me boring or what not, just position yourself to keep learning and you’ll succeed. Hope this helps
I'm so glad you exist!
You are helping so many people!
Great interview! Never been this early before. I totally believe that the lower-mid levels that peddle are themselves fooled by the higher ups, just like MLM. Very sad and gross.
The snake oil bottle there 🤣 The editing here is absolutely hilarious, comedy gold
This guy looks like Popeyes archenemy. BLUTO!!
Donald duck
The host looks like Donald duck and the guest as Brutus
Im a writing major and the formula and templates are all real. Advisors have told me if I wanted to work and make money at a lot of places you take the formula and stick to it.
whats with gigachad stephen crowder?
Bro your channel gives so much value!
Thank you. I asked for a video like this. I actually found a website that "teaches" you how to do unethical sales, copywriting and marketing, lol. Go figure, at least they were "honest" about how they got rich and not fake gurus
Pokarface7 where?
@@bunnystrasse If you can't defeat the enemy, might as well join them, haha. Note, the information is free, no masterclass or fake guru you need to pay to. Blackhatworld(dot)com . Scroll down to the section that says Black Hat SEO, cloaking and content generators. Also research about farming accounts and proxies. Warrriorforum(dot)com also has legal marketing and unethical cloaking discussions; however, if you go the legal way, WarrioForum is actually a good place to learn about affiliate marketing. I think you can't really find a fake guru teaching this since their ads get banned if they promote cloaking, farming accounts, unethical affiliate marketing, etc, but basically it's what Stefan James did to make money. Watch the video here on Coffeezila about Stefan James
@@deanmartinez2358 If you can't defeat the enemy, might as well join them, haha. Note, the information is free, no need to pay for an expensive course or to consult with a fake guru. Blackhatworld(dot)com. Scroll down to the section that says Black Hat SEO, cloaking and content generators. Also research about farming accounts and proxies on the same website. Warrriorforum(dot)com also has legal marketing and unethical cloaking discussions; however, if you go the legal way, WarrioForum is actually a good place to learn about affiliate marketing. I think you can't really find a fake guru teaching this since their ads get banned if they promote cloaking, farming accounts, unethical affiliate marketing, etc, but basically it's what Stefan James did to make money. Watch the video here on Coffeezila about Stefan James
Lol I forgot about life before the 10 Million dollar studio! Love watching you progress!
What a good looking guy. His beard is God-like lol 😆
This interview is great and Jim's articles on his site really opens my eyes. thank you
This guy is like the ethical Dan Bilzarian.
Bizarro version
I paid £2500 for a copyrighting course by John Carlton. It arrived in a box with CD's, and bounded books. This was back in 2010. I've still got it and I use it at times. I'm not sure if I got scammed. It's a lot of money, but I found the content useful and I'm not sure I would have learned that elsewhere. Here's the truth about marketing though: if you want to make a lot of money you leave your morals at the door. What's are others opinions on John Carlton?
Dan bilzerian, is that you?
Dude's dog is my spirit animal.
22:50 , lol, imagine going to the bathroom and suddenly a fake guru pops up from the toilet to tell you, "you can be famous!"
Rivers of B.S. Also, have to say this, ashwagandha was a remarkably bad example, as there is a lot of data(on humans) to support its efficacy. The scam is that if you just buy the herb, it's relatively inexpensive, when Onnit formulates it into a prop blend, then packages it in an ominous black geltab and calls it "Total Wreckage" it costs $89.99 and you have no idea how much is in it
Agreed. Bullshit video.
I saw an ad about a domestic violence victim who ran away from her abusive spouse had to work two jobs to sustain herself. And even though she was living paycheck to paycheck she decided to help a homeless man. The guy told her the universe was going to return the favor to her. After that she found a bracelet and became rich, then she lost the bracelet and she became poor, then her friend found the bracelet and she became rich. I watch the whole damn thing lol
They play to your emotions and vulnerabilities to draw you in. You’re poor or you’re broken or lost, and they build rapport by playing on your heartstrings for 30 seconds before sneaking in the pitch.
I've seen that one too.
This I gotta see.
@@Seth9809 I uploaded it to my channel
The fung shui bracelets, right?
Thank you for sharing the story
Just like there are good and bad doctors and good and bad people there are unethical and ethical copywriters... this is a one-sided biased, unfair viewpoint for those doing it ethically (and there's a LOT more ethical than non-ethical)....
"Accosting me in the bathroom" oh man the dude is hilarious
It’s funny that they revere Ayn Rand, because she would most definitely despise them.
She and Nietzsche both hate what they create.
Almost any philosophy is better.
@@marcschaeffer1584 what makes you say that? Seems wildly inaccurate to me
Nice to see Dan Bilzerian got an honest job.
Copywriting masterminds are the worst. Been interested on this skill so I enrolled to this one course. I didn't vibe with the members well because I don't like how you're almost like worshipping the guru. I requested a refund and this guru gaslighted/shamed me to the group of course I got all the hate from this members. Lol it's traumatizing it's like a cult. 🤮🤢
Lemme guess - it was Alex Cattoni
I imagine him just walking through all the empty piss stalls "YOU COULD BE FAMOUS"
the best is when you actually use great direct response copywriting and marketing to actually sell a great product or service, not a scam.
100% agreed.
That is the most magnificent beard & mustache I have seen in 12 months.
That guy should sale a course on how to grow and groom an epic Zeus beard in just 3 days or less :-)
I would buy it!
😭
Ponzi wasn't a bad person. At that time there was a lack of understanding of finance. A bad fire happened at a household in NYC where he was living and a woman was badly burnt. He donated a large amount of skin to her and was heralded as a saviour and spent nearly a year bed ridden because of it.
Dan Bilzerian is a copywriter?
DR has had that unethical side for decades. Like, 50 years or more. It’s just easier to spot now, because it’s all online rather than direct mail.
There is no way I would walk up to this guy in a bathroom stall. Did Clint not see how big and jacked this guy is??!?
Also me: Jim's dog is so cute in the background.
Every coffeezilla AD is an insta guru 😂
You should keep an eye out for Agora Financial folks. They're damn wild with some of their newsletters.
Speaking as a long time copywriter.
A software writes their copy.
@@lextor4712 what’s it called?
@@ezramantini8078 Checkout CopyPro by Jon Benson. Doesn't mean they don't do anything themselves though
@@lextor4712 I see, well have you hear of GPT-3 it’s an AI that can actually help you write great copy FASTER. U still need to come up with the good shit but it just accelerates the process
@@ezramantini8078 Ineresting man. Nope but have checked now out some articles now. Seems to be pretty impressive. You have some access to that?
its funny how dan loks copywriting course shows as an ad on this
“Are people just wanting a dad, or what?”
Poignant question, if you look at Jordan Peterson's success I think we can conclude that the answer is a resounding yes. He said it himself, nobody was selling responsibility. It was also interesting to see as a fan of his older psychology and bible lecture series how he seemingly inadvertently morphed into a self-help guru due to his popularity. This part of him I greatly dislike. Due to his profound influence over impressionable people he basically developed a cult of personality, intentionally or not.
Yeah people most definitely want fathers. It's so sad how many young men never got that traditional, responsible father figure to teach them how to be a man. My brother's dad (different from mine) wanted nothing to do with him and the men my mom brought around were not the type that could teach a boy how to be a man. I am certain that the lack of a father, which led to a lack of direction in life, is what led to my brother committing suicide
Something that's been on my mind for quite a long time since watching your videos: Affiliate Marketing per se is nor scam or a shady business. It's just about referring customers and getting commissions for that. I am making a living off Affiliate Marketing since 2009 by promoting legit products (like books, laptops, perfumes, ps games etc.) or services (hosting) on my websites, which fits their content.
It's just shady if you promote too expensive, useless products in questionable ways, like the scammers you refer to do. But Affiliate Marketing is a good way to make money; at least for me, because I have a couple of websites with a bunch of visitors!
Those big networks like clickbank and maxbounty have really scammy products
To Coffeezilla and his army,
I just wanted to say a couple of words just to change your prespictive on copywriting
First I gotta tell you I love your videos & I like what you do, believe it or not your channel actually saved me from that fucking Dan Lok Scam (I Was 15/16 back then and I was going to by his course STUPID ME) Well I'm 19 now and I've grown.
Anyways, Back to the point I'm a Copywriter & Copywriting to me is just a tool, a skill that can be used for good or bad , You can use it to sale SHITTY Products like (how to earn 6 figures in 1 week or how to loss ridiculous amount of weight in x days , there are even people who are claiming to have the cure to cancer) I never DO that and I Was always against it BUT as I Said you can used for good too (there is a whole niche on fundraising with people using their copywriting skills to help people all over the world)
I See it kind of as hacking you can Fuck people's lives or you can ACTUALLY Save them It's up to you to choose what you wanna do.
And Yes many Copywriters Choose the Bad Side but I Will never work with any person or company that would cause me to walk away from my very clear ethics and values.
Also a GREAT thing copywriting has giving me is that now thankfully I can spot any scammer in just seconds like for example I was watching the video of the scumbag with the pink shirt who laughs about people with 9 to 5 (yes a copywriter wrote his video script there's no question) but NOW I can see exactly what he's doing how he's creating Intimacy/Urgency/he's fucked up reason on why he's charging his course (ACTUALLY that made me laugh so hard)
Anyways I Hope you see this, you're awesome keep what you're doing
FUCK DAN LOK
and have a nice day ;)