Packrafting Safety Gears
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- Опубліковано 16 лис 2017
- I had one close call last year when packrafting at Hemavan. One must learn from experience and now I have a lot more safety gears. We need more training also and after that we are ready for next SOB trip to north Sweden!
Here is the blog I promised:
www.hutkai.fi/blog/79/Safety%...
9:00 hahaha! You should definitely do this movement in a rescue situation haha
Thanks, I'm just getting into this sport and videos like yours are really helpful. Cheers from Alberta.
Thanks! This is still learning for me too. I was in Rescue 3 course this spring and I learned so much new things. I will go on a wilderness trip after a couple of days, I think I will do there a new safety-related video.
Very good!
This is great that you've clearly learned some lessons and taken safety more seriously (I haven't watched any of your older videos so I don't know what you were taking before). As a professional river guide for over 10 years, I think I can see even more room for improvement. Simple things, but things that can save your life. I don't want to put it all publicly on a youtube comment section (it doesn't feel the right place) but I'd be really happy to share with you a few things I've been taught and a few things I've learned the hard way so you don't have to.
Huw Miles Thanks, you can put me e-mail also. caide78@gmail.com
Thanks for sharing all your experience and thoughts, it does help.
Thanks for sharing good tips.
Like your videos 👍
Thanks! I made the Rescue 3 coutse last year and I have made a lot of training past that video. So maybe I make new version in the spring...
Good job and kittos:)
Btw, if you’re ever in Scotland it’d be great to paddle sometime 👍
That would be nice ☺
Good stuff!
Emanuel B Thanks!
Glad you got some safety gear. In English the plural of gear (in this context) is "gear", not "gears." Sorry, our language doesn't make sense :). If the tension is right on the draw cord at on your throw bag, you can just pull the loop threw without needing to open the bag all the way. That will make sure that rope doesn't come out of the bag before you throw, which will give a better toss. Also, nice diaper harness (that's what I call them, but they work.)
Mountain Springs Thanks! Yes, I tested it in summer and I can throw it without opening. It just doesn't fly so far. Diaper is funny :D
Here is what i wrote to my blog:
www.hutkai.fi/blog/79/Safety%2Bgear%2Bfor%2Bwhitewater%2Bpackrafting/
So how did that Anfibio Throw Bag (seems to be a or similar to their LifeLine+) perform in the two years that have passed? Is it good and precisely to throw? Quick and easy to refill in case you missed and have to throw again? And what length does the rope have in your version (they now offer 13, 15 or 20 meters)? Would you opt for the same product again?
Thanks for sharing! Greetings from Tyrol
I don't use that Anfibio rope anymore. I think that rope is a budget solution and good rope if you have it with you just in case. It's light-weight and easy to take with you.
If you really need a rope, it's not good. It's too thin, the swimmer hurts hands while holding it. Because it's light, the downside is that it doesn't fly so far and it is not so accurate.
I would recommend a rope that you can safely put to your hip with a belt with a quick release. Or then a rope, which you can put inside your PFD, like I have the Astral throw rope. When you need the rope, it's usually fast situation and when you carry rope always with you, it's probably on your hands when you need it.
What’s the pulley for?
My whole setup has changed after this, but it's for 3:1 advantage pulley and it can be used to pull stuff from river for example. Kayak, swimmer, tree...
Not so important with packrafts and can be made with carabiners too.
I did find this video about water knot, which is usually used with the webbing. So you can make your own decide, which knot you make. I don't know a shit about these.
ua-cam.com/video/mXe-8GmS08k/v-deo.html
I hope you got some good training and improved your knowledge and skills. Packrafting is awesome but the simplicity of the packraft does allow the progression from beginner to very serious water to happen very quickly. Unfortunately the foreshortened zero to hero journey time also removes the time where most paddlers make simple mistakes in simple environments and progress as they go. Simple principles, such as clean lines (no knots) etc, are fundamental to safe travel on the river. The odd thing about river safety is that we often need to do the opposite of what our gut tells us, like clipping or tying into a rope that has a loop tied in the other end. This has led to the paddling journey being cut even shorter far too many times
Good points. Yes, I have done now during the years a lot of safety training. Including the Rescue 3 training. I am also a guide soon, and I done also rafting guide training. And what is more important, I have much more experience 😊
You should have a locking carabiner on your throwbag. It gives weight to your throw and allows the person being rescued to attach the rope to their pdf.
That is absolutely one of the most unsafe things you could ever do or suggest to others, not only are you throwing a rope bag with a metal carabiner at someone (typically their head as that is the only part of a swimmer you see) injuring the person making the situation worse, but never attach a rope to a rescuer or person being rescued, you are going to get someone killed doing and suggesting things like that.
Professional guide 20+ years and a professional swift-water technician.
NEVER THROW A THROWLINE WITH A CARABINER ON, and if you do NEVER CLIP INTO A THROWLINE. This is one of the most dangerous things you can do and goes against all formal training. And before you ask, I’ve guided canoe, kayak, raft, SUP, all over the world.
@@rogerpalin2800 hey you prob know more than me bud. I’m relatively self taught and everyone I have rafted with always had a locker. Thought it was standard. So ignore me I guess lol
Are you kind
Oblaatach Ali of course