As always - bravo both. Funny how "you take nice pix" is really about being a scientist, naturalist, ornithologist, geologist, weather forecaster, travel agent, accountant, artist, adobe expert, photographer, videographer, lawyer, computer technician, SEO magician, mechanic... and apparently a DIY tow truck driver. Thanks for weaving such great stories around the beauty that you both capture and the art you create. Thank you!
@12:15, not only is that just an absolutely gorgeous bird, but those shots are just stunning ! As good as it gets. Also, when you started talking about backing up your stuff, I literally had to put the vid on pause, while I started uploading about 350 of my best shots to my cloud backup :) TY for the reminder.
I can really appreciate how difficult it is to get some of those shots in the low light. I'm just back from Costa Rica and the low light, low shutter speed and high ISO got to be the norm. I'm waiting until I have the time to go through your offerings before processing too many of them. Thanks again for all the info you guys put out
Sure thing, I lived in Colombia for 3 months(unfortunately without a camera) and Paraguay for three years and sure love the South American vibes! So much avian variety! Gracias
As for backup, I am considering using one of the cloud services. Nowadays there are several which offer unlimited storage, for a low monthly subscription, for which transfer to/from is as easy as "dropbox" or "google drive" made it. Then, as soon as you have descent connectivity, you can pull or push data from storage, as needed, and not worry about space or maintenance.
@@GlennBartley If opting for the unlimited space, you might find that storing the RAW in the cloud is even more beneficial, not only because it takes up much more space than jpegs, but because post-production software is getting better, and a re-visit of the RAW file might be of interest sometime from now.
Jan - about your current situation moving around have you looked at using a 4G/5G mobile broadband modem? I use an Optus 4G modem, don't have a wired Internet connection to my house. Works great and excellent when you move around, you could even travel with it. I'm hoping they upgrade the towers near my house to 5G soon and I will update for even better speed. Those stories you both shared about horror trips - wow, those were certainly some bad luck.
I needed to hear your stories of missed opportunities. Just two days ago I missed two eagles fighting for a perch because I looked down at my ringing phone and I've been kicking myself since. Grrr! :-)
Hi Jan, you guys are awesome, like the details on how "shoots can be difficult" I wondered Jan if you might consider the Challenge of photographing the White Goshawk you get over there? so few photographs of this amazing raptor.
I just got back from a trip to the Texas Gulf coast and I didn't see as much as I was hoping for, I think I expected to much probably from all the research I did but got some great shots. Hearing your flat tire story and food poisoning story makes me feel better though, it could've been a lot worse than just not seeing as much as I was hoping for and having my R5's freeze up all the time.
Another great video guys. Thanks. Jan, Glenn I would be interested to learn more about how each of you backs up your picture data (both physical setup and backup 'routine').
Interesting video. I enjoyed the stories of misadventures. Even us amateurs have had our share of them, although not as challenging as in the outback. Whenever I hear about backing up I get overwhelmed realizing how little I know and how uncomfortable I am creating a system to do it the best way.
You can see a bit more here. ua-cam.com/video/vZgn8pOlsZ0/v-deo.html and it full detail in my Masterclass where I do things step by step or Glenns ebooks
Of course we have. They're much improved. We just like using our own, cause they also help us with the first important steps of editing beyond just getting good colours
I am really amazed to see the pictures and hearing about the experiences, I can relate to them personally. On the ISO side, I haven't been able to move above it above 6400 on my R5, maybe I am not too sure of how to address the noise in post processing. Finally on the DAS/NAS, you could have used your existing NAS in DAS mode by connecting it directly to the computer and it would have worked just like a NAS albeit without internet connectivity. Cheers and look forward to great insights
Jan, How do you handle the high ISO for your video footage? If it was ISO 256000 with 1/100 shutter speed for your stills, then I am guessing the videos should turn out to be pretty noisy at 1/60 too? What's the trick there? Anything specific you use to denoise (if you don't mind sharing)?
I am impressed with the results from your PROSETS as shown in your videos, but I don't use Lightroom or Photoshop. Would you consider translating a couple of your more useful and popular PROSETS for users of ON1 Photo RAW?
I had a day trip (about 3 hours away) one time to a sight that had been getting a lot of Harlequin Ducks. The weather for early Jan was going to be fairly good with temps around 36F/2C with very little wind and nice mixed clouds. Checking ebird for the sightings the days before and the numbers were good for the Harlequin but also several other nice ducks and birds. I get there and there is nothing. No Harlequins or any other ducks, just a handful of Herring Gulls. Checking ebird showed that all the birds were back the next day. I have been back on days that have been just as nice and gotten a number of great shots of Harlequins and other birds.
Thanks Jan & Glenn for showing again a much needed portion of amazing birds !! Great war stories from Glenn. So it sounds like I need to build my own youtube channel when I want to receive some perfect pointers at the brink of giving up ;-) While I do enjoy a lot Jan's geeky early bird show, and it does trigger interesting reflections on pro's and con's of gear, I was deerly missing the birds in it !! And his video settings YT I'm still parsing while attempting to translate the settings to my R6 ;-)
Yes, just mixing it up a bit, since the algorithm isn't as much of a birds fan haha! People recognising you can be a blessing or a curse sometimes :) In regards to the R6, you basically just got the one video mode, so I'd set that up to the go to mode.
@@jan_wegener I'm aware how the algorithm is bugging you .. and I guess it's rather logical: I do search in youtube whether there's any news on the unicorn in the last week, and I sometimes search on certain lenses, but I honestly never search on a specific bird species .. but I still count on you & Glenn & Duade to regularly treat me on amazing birds I've never seen before !! There's just no way for us followers to train the algorithm to feed us unexpected awesome birds ;-) Yeah, I've had a time at university when everyone seemed to recognize me .. as I was among the 0.5% of long haired Diplomingenieur students. I was a pretty 'strange bird' in that population, heheh .. I'm more than aware the R6 is way less flexible on video. But I really want to optimize the AF detection sensitivity hands on with the camera. I had been filming a woodpecker hiding regularly his head in a pot of peanut butter, and each time the eye was hidden the camera started badly hunting and it was hard to return focus on the bird before the bird got bokefied again ..
@@WernerBirdNature Yes, the Shows are definitely not very good when it comes to showing up in searches Yes, the sensitivity setting should hopefully help with that
My backup system is average but it works, I have 2 cheap toshiba 2TB hard drives, when I get home from a shoot I copy all my images into a folder on my desktop with none deleted as a 'temp' backup, then I put the card back in my camera and go through every photo and delete 90% of them, if I accidentally delete 1, its still im my 'temp' folder. Then I go through and process all my images, back up the remaining raws and processed images to both hard drives, delete all files off SD card then delete the 'temp' folder if im happy. So all my images im relying on the 2 hard drives to store and no raws kept on my PC. My camera at 61MP after 1 year of shooting every weekend, ive only used 1TB, so only every 2 years I might have to buy new hard drives. Not sure if I should do 3 backups but currently im happy with 2.
The most important thing is to have a system. going through them on the camera seems very tedious though. If using PC i'd check out breezebrowser personally.
@@GlennBartley Yea, I know ive tried on the PC before but I feel like I can quickly check for sharpness with the camera and there is no lag or delay. Ive only got a laptop so it does struggle a bit. But I will give it a 2nd chance and ill look at breezerbrowser, as long as its quick ill be happy :)
@@jan_wegener Ahh, I thought breezebrowser was the free 1, ive heard both of them mentioned in your videos but never looked into them, breezebrowser is off the list for me then. Sorry Glenn
First time to your joint channel, excellent and really inspirational. I noticed a number of Jan's photos shutter speed less than 1/100s, amazing and hand held, really, how?! I am lucky to get shots as crisp as that at 1/500! What is the secret? Maybe I'm just too shaky!
I think the secret is to have good hand holding technique and fire away. Like having as many points of contact with your body and ideally lean against a tree or so
Spot on guys!!! As always a great watch! I shuddered at your outback story Jan as it could have been much worse, i've done a bit of outback survival with my old friend Bob Cooper in Perth WA and its well worth doing some training if in remote areas driving a Soccer mums car without off road tyres 😂.... I'm looking at another file backup system at the moment so that was good info i use Lacie hard drives at the moment, 5T's till htey are full and then lock them up but i want something better, i'll look at that one Jan 👍🏼😉.... Top stuff! JP
Interesting about the high ISO workflow you've adopted. I'm looking at getting A Sony but can't afford the A1, which of the alternatives would deal well with higher ISO settings?
@@GlennBartley Thanks for the reply, yes with dxo and topaz et al, there is much that can be done, but I guess I guess I'm more looking at the best current body (with the exception of the A1, as out of my price) before going into post. What would be the minimum in Megapixels one should consider? Thanks
I think more than megapixels things like good eye tracking have become more and mire important. Sony definitely has a big gap after the A1. I have not used the A7IV, but it does seem to have most features, minus the speed.
@@jan_wegener Hopefully they'll produce a more budget friendly body soon, where the tech trickles down. I have looked also at Nikon, but it's the same scenario, Z9 or go home! Interesting times to be looking at buying a new camera system, but also super frustrating!
Now the borders are open, you could do a face to face episode. Thanks for these informative and enjoyable videos.
Yes we will at some point for sure.
Definitely planned, but it's still not like we can just drive to each other's house for one afternoon :D
The best channel for bird photography bar none! Always informative and entertaining!
Thanks for the kind words Christopher 🙂
Glad you think so!
My favorite bird photography "duo". Love your down-to-earth approach. I learn something every video.
So nice to hear Tina!
Great to hear!
As always - bravo both. Funny how "you take nice pix" is really about being a scientist, naturalist, ornithologist, geologist, weather forecaster, travel agent, accountant, artist, adobe expert, photographer, videographer, lawyer, computer technician, SEO magician, mechanic... and apparently a DIY tow truck driver. Thanks for weaving such great stories around the beauty that you both capture and the art you create. Thank you!
Haha....so true! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Much appreciated!
haha! very true!
@12:15, not only is that just an absolutely gorgeous bird, but those shots are just stunning ! As good as it gets. Also, when you started talking about backing up your stuff, I literally had to put the vid on pause, while I started uploading about 350 of my best shots to my cloud backup :) TY for the reminder.
Cheers! Glad you found the episode helpful 🙂
Ha! Thanks! Happy to have contributed to saving your files haha!
We hope you all enjoy the episode!
Hopefully you like this field content because I'm still in South America for 3 more weeks!!! 🙂
I can really appreciate how difficult it is to get some of those shots in the low light. I'm just back from Costa Rica and the low light, low shutter speed and high ISO got to be the norm. I'm waiting until I have the time to go through your offerings before processing too many of them. Thanks again for all the info you guys put out
Sure thing, I lived in Colombia for 3 months(unfortunately without a camera) and Paraguay for three years and sure love the South American vibes! So much avian variety! Gracias
Thanks... It would be nice if there was a map of such a reserve ...
As always thoroughly enjoyed your way of entertainingly presenting your episodes
Thank you Heidi!
Thanks
As for backup, I am considering using one of the cloud services. Nowadays there are several which offer unlimited storage, for a low monthly subscription, for which transfer to/from is as easy as "dropbox" or "google drive" made it. Then, as soon as you have descent connectivity, you can pull or push data from storage, as needed, and not worry about space or maintenance.
Depending on how much you want to upload it could be done.
I use cloud for full rez jpgs.
@@GlennBartley If opting for the unlimited space, you might find that storing the RAW in the cloud is even more beneficial, not only because it takes up much more space than jpegs, but because post-production software is getting better, and a re-visit of the RAW file might be of interest sometime from now.
Very interesting about your new backup system! Can you make a video about that?
super impressed by this interview and the information you shared and equally impressed by the editing of this interview, excellent job.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Jan - about your current situation moving around have you looked at using a 4G/5G mobile broadband modem? I use an Optus 4G modem, don't have a wired Internet connection to my house. Works great and excellent when you move around, you could even travel with it. I'm hoping they upgrade the towers near my house to 5G soon and I will update for even better speed.
Those stories you both shared about horror trips - wow, those were certainly some bad luck.
Not great reception where I am atm :(
Interesting video! Thanks for sharing!
Cheers!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you guys.
Our pleasure!
I needed to hear your stories of missed opportunities. Just two days ago I missed two eagles fighting for a perch because I looked down at my ringing phone and I've been kicking myself since. Grrr! :-)
It happens!
Yes, the phone can cause a lot of missed shots!
Hi Jan, you guys are awesome, like the details on how "shoots can be difficult" I wondered Jan if you might consider the Challenge of photographing the White Goshawk you get over there? so few photographs of this amazing raptor.
If I ever seen one I will take some photos :D
I have seen one next to the freeway once, going past it at 110km/h :(
@@jan_wegener That may well be too fast even for your Super Canon camera. Hope you see one to shoot some day and Wedgetail Eagles.
I love Chimborazo Hillstars. I found the first record for Colombia back in 1991.
Awesome Carl!
Great!
I just got back from a trip to the Texas Gulf coast and I didn't see as much as I was hoping for, I think I expected to much probably from all the research I did but got some great shots. Hearing your flat tire story and food poisoning story makes me feel better though, it could've been a lot worse than just not seeing as much as I was hoping for and having my R5's freeze up all the time.
Maybe a bit early to visit there? I would have thought March / April would be better??
That freezing must suck! I suppose the Texas Coast is a little bit better in a couple months or so?
Another great video guys. Thanks. Jan, Glenn I would be interested to learn more about how each of you backs up your picture data (both physical setup and backup 'routine').
I backup after every trip. I have one off site and one on site. So 3 copies in total.
I think we talked about it a bit in our computer episode a while back
Really enjoyed listening to your stories of past trips . Would definitely like more longer content like this . 👍🏻
Noted! We'll surely be doing more content "from the road" as I have so many trips coming up!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Interesting video. I enjoyed the stories of misadventures. Even us amateurs have had our share of them, although not as challenging as in the outback. Whenever I hear about backing up I get overwhelmed realizing how little I know and how uncomfortable I am creating a system to do it the best way.
You might find this video helpful
ua-cam.com/video/uC5ZBa0pUTo/v-deo.html
Amazing... Show us the editing process!
You can see a bit more here.
ua-cam.com/video/vZgn8pOlsZ0/v-deo.html
and it full detail in my Masterclass where I do things step by step or Glenns ebooks
Another great show!
Glad you enjoy it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for reminding me to back-up! I'll get on to it now.... :)
Another great episode guys. Excellent work 🙌🙌
Thank you Julian!
Glad you enjoyed it
Guys, have you considered putting a "buy us a coffee" button in your description?
@@GlennBartley Have you guys considered including a "buy us a coffee" button in the description?
@@juliangreaves7314 There is one :)
Great video guys! I wondering if you guys have tested the new colour profiles by Adobe for the Canon r5?
Of course we have. They're much improved. We just like using our own, cause they also help us with the first important steps of editing beyond just getting good colours
@@jan_wegener Cool, would you say the r5 colour profile give similar results to that of the 5d iv?
@@upendrawerake5991 more or less, depends on the subject in the end
excellent again! thx!!
i would almost reignite my adobe subscription so that i could use your presets!
Cheers Gosse!
Thank you! What are you using now?
@@jan_wegener primarily DXO PL 5, and the holy Topaz Trinity: denoise, sharpen, gigapixel.....
Another awesome episode!! Thanks for sharing some of the challenges - definitely helpful! Loved the editing tips, footage, and photos!
Cheers!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I am really amazed to see the pictures and hearing about the experiences, I can relate to them personally. On the ISO side, I haven't been able to move above it above 6400 on my R5, maybe I am not too sure of how to address the noise in post processing.
Finally on the DAS/NAS, you could have used your existing NAS in DAS mode by connecting it directly to the computer and it would have worked just like a NAS albeit without internet connectivity.
Cheers and look forward to great insights
It's definitely worth trying dxo pure raw if you haven't already...
Grab the trial from the link in the description.
@@GlennBartley Yes!! DxO pure raw is amazing. It's the perfect R5 companion.
Great thanks, have you had any focussing problems with firmware 1.5 on R5? Lots of negative reports? Thanks
I havent had any issues.
I have 1.5.1 one and it seemed a tad more jumpy
but not necessarily worse. Just seemed to jump more between eyes and nostrils
Jan, How do you handle the high ISO for your video footage? If it was ISO 256000 with 1/100 shutter speed for your stills, then I am guessing the videos should turn out to be pretty noisy at 1/60 too? What's the trick there? Anything specific you use to denoise (if you don't mind sharing)?
NR on video is very easy, it shows up less in general and NR in Davinci Studio is very effective, too, so not much of a problem.
Your Proset packets just work with PS - correct? Or are they like plug-ins that might work with Affinity Photo?
I assume so. We have only tested it with PS & LR. They're not Plug ins
I am impressed with the results from your PROSETS as shown in your videos, but I don't use Lightroom or Photoshop. Would you consider translating a couple of your more useful and popular PROSETS for users of ON1 Photo RAW?
To be honest I think we'll only be working in the Adobe platform.
We have no experience with a lot of other programs, so would be hard to know how to implement them etc and to get the most out of the ;programs
I had a day trip (about 3 hours away) one time to a sight that had been getting a lot of Harlequin Ducks. The weather for early Jan was going to be fairly good with temps around 36F/2C with very little wind and nice mixed clouds. Checking ebird for the sightings the days before and the numbers were good for the Harlequin but also several other nice ducks and birds. I get there and there is nothing. No Harlequins or any other ducks, just a handful of Herring Gulls. Checking ebird showed that all the birds were back the next day. I have been back on days that have been just as nice and gotten a number of great shots of Harlequins and other birds.
Sometimes you just have bad luck dont you!
Crazy how it goes sometimes
Thanks Jan & Glenn for showing again a much needed portion of amazing birds !!
Great war stories from Glenn. So it sounds like I need to build my own youtube channel when I want to receive some perfect pointers at the brink of giving up ;-)
While I do enjoy a lot Jan's geeky early bird show, and it does trigger interesting reflections on pro's and con's of gear, I was deerly missing the birds in it !! And his video settings YT I'm still parsing while attempting to translate the settings to my R6 ;-)
Glad you enjoyed Werner!
Yes, just mixing it up a bit, since the algorithm isn't as much of a birds fan haha!
People recognising you can be a blessing or a curse sometimes :)
In regards to the R6, you basically just got the one video mode, so I'd set that up to the go to mode.
@@jan_wegener I'm aware how the algorithm is bugging you .. and I guess it's rather logical: I do search in youtube whether there's any news on the unicorn in the last week, and I sometimes search on certain lenses, but I honestly never search on a specific bird species .. but I still count on you & Glenn & Duade to regularly treat me on amazing birds I've never seen before !! There's just no way for us followers to train the algorithm to feed us unexpected awesome birds ;-)
Yeah, I've had a time at university when everyone seemed to recognize me .. as I was among the 0.5% of long haired Diplomingenieur students. I was a pretty 'strange bird' in that population, heheh ..
I'm more than aware the R6 is way less flexible on video. But I really want to optimize the AF detection sensitivity hands on with the camera. I had been filming a woodpecker hiding regularly his head in a pot of peanut butter, and each time the eye was hidden the camera started badly hunting and it was hard to return focus on the bird before the bird got bokefied again ..
@@WernerBirdNature Yes, the Shows are definitely not very good when it comes to showing up in searches
Yes, the sensitivity setting should hopefully help with that
My backup system is average but it works, I have 2 cheap toshiba 2TB hard drives, when I get home from a shoot I copy all my images into a folder on my desktop with none deleted as a 'temp' backup, then I put the card back in my camera and go through every photo and delete 90% of them, if I accidentally delete 1, its still im my 'temp' folder. Then I go through and process all my images, back up the remaining raws and processed images to both hard drives, delete all files off SD card then delete the 'temp' folder if im happy.
So all my images im relying on the 2 hard drives to store and no raws kept on my PC. My camera at 61MP after 1 year of shooting every weekend, ive only used 1TB, so only every 2 years I might have to buy new hard drives. Not sure if I should do 3 backups but currently im happy with 2.
The most important thing is to have a system.
going through them on the camera seems very tedious though. If using PC i'd check out breezebrowser personally.
@@GlennBartley Yea, I know ive tried on the PC before but I feel like I can quickly check for sharpness with the camera and there is no lag or delay. Ive only got a laptop so it does struggle a bit. But I will give it a 2nd chance and ill look at breezerbrowser, as long as its quick ill be happy :)
Can also try FastSTone Image Viewer, as a free alternative
@@jan_wegener Ahh, I thought breezebrowser was the free 1, ive heard both of them mentioned in your videos but never looked into them, breezebrowser is off the list for me then. Sorry Glenn
First time to your joint channel, excellent and really inspirational. I noticed a number of Jan's photos shutter speed less than 1/100s, amazing and hand held, really, how?! I am lucky to get shots as crisp as that at 1/500! What is the secret? Maybe I'm just too shaky!
I think the secret is to have good hand holding technique and fire away. Like having as many points of contact with your body and ideally lean against a tree or so
Thanks for another entertaining and informative video. I love Glenn's Fidel Castro look. 😆
Hahaha
Our pleasure!
Spot on guys!!! As always a great watch! I shuddered at your outback story Jan as it could have been much worse, i've done a bit of outback survival with my old friend Bob Cooper in Perth WA and its well worth doing some training if in remote areas driving a Soccer mums car without off road tyres 😂.... I'm looking at another file backup system at the moment so that was good info i use Lacie hard drives at the moment, 5T's till htey are full and then lock them up but i want something better, i'll look at that one Jan 👍🏼😉.... Top stuff! JP
Cheers JP. Thanks for your thoughts!
Thanks! Yes, we got lucky it wasn't too remote. The Tr-004 with a bunch of drives is a pretty cost effective method.
Interesting about the high ISO workflow you've adopted. I'm looking at getting A Sony but can't afford the A1, which of the alternatives would deal well with higher ISO settings?
I feel like now its almost more about the software than the sensor. I'm sure any of the contemporary Sonys will do fine.
@@GlennBartley Thanks for the reply, yes with dxo and topaz et al, there is much that can be done, but I guess I guess I'm more looking at the best current body (with the exception of the A1, as out of my price) before going into post. What would be the minimum in Megapixels one should consider? Thanks
I think more than megapixels things like good eye tracking have become more and mire important. Sony definitely has a big gap after the A1. I have not used the A7IV, but it does seem to have most features, minus the speed.
@@jan_wegener Hopefully they'll produce a more budget friendly body soon, where the tech trickles down. I have looked also at Nikon, but it's the same scenario, Z9 or go home! Interesting times to be looking at buying a new camera system, but also super frustrating!
@@Karkawry1970 Yes, only Canon has that covered with an R6 atm
Which program do you use to sort/cull images?
FastStone Image Viewer on windows
@@jan_wegener Thank you!!
what is e-bird?
love the indigenous peoples statement at the end. much respect.
@@jadefinchscene5644 It is important for sure!
ebird.org
File storage is a bit of a problem for serious wildlife photography, just bought a 18TB Sandisk G ! Not cheap but essential at this level ! 👍😍
Yes the bigger the files get the more you need. And all that 4k video!!!
It adds up quickly