Why Do You Have 8 EQs In Your Mastering Chain?
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- In this video I discuss why I have 8 different EQs in my mastering chain. The answer is simple, I will use specific EQs for specific purposes. Some EQs are better for some things and other EQs are better for other things. I've not found one EQ that can do it all. Certain EQs have a certain sound. Some EQs will have a beautiful low end but another EQ will have a better high end. By having multiple EQs you can pick which is best for the track.
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I usually have between 2 and 3. I like to try as many EQs as possible because EQ is the most fun part of mastering.
Cut with plugins and boost with hardware. This is something ive heard many times. Besides the fact that a plugin eq can be extremely precise, from a sound quality perspective, is there any differences cutting with a plugin eq vs an analog eq?
In the analogue domain, certain EQs change the curves of the other bands in a musical way when cutting. I will do a lot more cuts in the digital domain than the analogue domain.
Can you recreate the sound from the album Throwing Copper by Live? (1994)
Amazing album.
Would you like “just for the fun” to test the fully balanced douk audio T8 pro? It has cheap tubes and opamps but that is upgradeable. I have 2 and only did a linear power supply upgrade.
If you had to choose one.... WesAudio NG TubeEQ or SPL PQ Mastering EQ and why?
Wes Audio NG Tube EQ. I actually swapped the PQ out for the tube EQ. The PQ is brilliant, but it isn't a do everything EQ. Low end on the PQ sounds great. High end isn't always the desired sound you want. The NG tube EQ sounds great in every band. Will do everything you want from an EQ. It's the perfect EQ.
With too many processors especially EQ, all the input/output circuitry (balancing/unbalancing receivers/transmitters and potentially transformers and coupling capacitors), plus the required crossover electronics to split the signals into multiple bands is a recipe for a poor sound quality master IMHO. Too much phase shift and multiple types of distortions. Mastering should be as short and simple as possible if using series connection. With insert switcher to audition different EQ and processor is another story...
Did you actually listen to what I said? Or did you just read the title? If you'd listened you would hear me say the reason I have 8 EQs in the chain is so I am able to choose between them via the Flock patchbay. Within the minute, I actually say exactly what you said that having too many units in your chain starts to have a negative effect because of exactly what you are saying as a counter argument but you are making the same statement as me, which is either stupid or you didn't actually listen to what I said. When using 8 EQs you are selective over which ones you use. I even go on to say that often no more than 4 EQs are usually used at any one time. I will switch between two different EQs to use which is best for the mastering of the song. Sorry, but this comment is stupid so the above must be pointed out.
I do not have my Carnaby HE2 yet (waiting on it) but I am curious, do you think you can achieve the super silk in the Rupert Neve Designs MBT with it or close?
That's a good question. It is similar in its sound, but I do find super silk to be smoother. I will do a video on this as I'm interested to know how they compare.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio I cannot wait to see that. I am so interested. I hope you do it soon Paul. It will make me more excited for my HE2
@braxal6983 this is one I will record tomorrow. As I want to know the answer to this question as much as you. I like to do these tests to understand the gear I'm using 100%. To know when it's best to use the HE2 and when to use the MBT.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio Awesome!!!!
@braxal6983 I tested this yesterday. And can confirm no the HE2 doesn't achieve what silk achieves. Silk blue is similar but silk red has a huge difference. Silk red goes down to about 1k. HE2 goes down to 5k. Silk red has a smoother sound to it with a gentle curve. I have shot a video on it which I'll post later this week.
What is mid side?
Mis side turns the left channel into processing the mid signal, which is everything in mono. Then the right channel processes the sides, which is all the audio information in the stereo field. In the most simplest of terms instead of EQing left and right, you can EQ mid and side.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio okay thanks
The honest answer is not "because you can" but because your a gear addict 😂
Yes, that as well 100%
Come on man, this is a parody of your own voice. We all know what your actual voice sounds like (rode videomic pro) 😭
I feel like I'm not watching Paul anymore
Haha, I'm going to 4k as well, maybe 8k. Figure it's time to make some effort in the production value of these videos.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio in terms of video quality, lighting and camera settings make a way bigger difference than resolution.
I know that because I have been doing video work for a long while now.
As an example, you have a shadow running across your face caused by the ceiling lights. I know that video lighting is a logistical nightmare, but perhaps look into head shot / talking head video lighting techniques. Maybe you'll find a compromise. It will make the biggest difference.
But room lighting is never a good look on video in general. The lamp quality and their positioning is never ideal.
It is a very similar situation to mic shootout you did actually
@@AudioAnimalsStudio I also forgot to mention that hands down, the lens is the second most important defining factor of perceived video quality. Make an effort to choose the focal lenght and apperture value intentionally to show off your space as best as possible
@@patrick5301 the issue I have is that as soon as these videos start to take a lot of time to do with setting up etc, the less I will end up doing. In an ideal world I just want to swing round and start recording a video whilst I have some recording. If I have to set up lighting etc it becomes a job in itself.
What eq gives you that “ posh, expensive “ sound?😊
The Buzz REQ 2.2 and Hendy Michelangelo EQ have that expensive sound to them. Just passing through them with settings at 0 give you an instantly recognisable expensive sound.
Thanks for the video! Btw do you still have the AUDIOTALES DESIGN EQs? Are you planning to do a video focusing only on them ? (So far I think you only featured them when you A/B all the elements of your chain)
Yes, I still have the 1951 and 1954 in both Studio A and Studio B. I will shoot some audio demos on these two soon.
Awesome! Looking forward these one v much 🎉
What's your favorite EQ for midrange?
Audiotales 1954 or Buzz Audio REQ 2.2
What if money WAS an object? 😂
@thimthim777 stay in the box and use a plugin. Or go down the 500 series route and get something like a pair of Maag EQ4s.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio Oh that's a good idea. Thank You!
How are you connecting all this gear now that you’ve introduced the flock? Everything on the flock matrix, or are you using flock plus a hybrid of hard wired chain elements?
Each unit is connected to the Flock and inserted when it is needed.
More the better ... Of course you know them so well after a certain amount of time you know what to use and how much ... But I wouldn't recommend someone to buy 8 EQ's at once, at least wait a week or two for the next to come to your studio, so you know what the previous one can do, or sound ... :))
100% agree. Start with one and add a second EQ that gives you something the first EQ doesn't give you.
Do you still use the spl iron and the elysia alpha compressor in you're chain?
The Elysia Alpha is in Studio A and the SPL iron is in Studio B. Both are used on a daily basis.
what is your take in the Knif Soma?
I've only ever used the hardware a couple of times. Enjoyed it every time. Looked forward to the plugin emulation, which didn't give me the same experience as using the hardware. I remember the hardware being instantly pleasing. The plugin was underwhelming. If you use the plugin first and enjoy that, the hardware is on another level.
But if you can, wouldn't it be beneficial to have 15 EQs, so you can combine them to get an unique box tone?
I mean, you could have 15 EQs, but using 15 EQs all at once would have more of a negative effect than positive. Having that many EQs at your disposal to pick and choose from would be nice. You always find you end up having your favourites and you reach for those first.
Also the noise might be the problem?
@kipcasey8736 yes if you had them all at once. Multiple transformers and tubes, all which add some noise to your chain no matter the quality of the gear. Too many I've always felt have a negative effect. However if you are using a patchbay and not actually passing through all 15 at once, you can just select, let's say 5 out of the 15 EQs and use those.
Hi Paul, did you ever use the Gainlab Empress and if so what do you think about it? I’m thinking about getting one for my masterbus, sounds pretty good as far as I heard on videos.
I don't have a great deal of experience with it. So can't give an honest, detailed opinion on it. I hear it is very good for the price though and any time I have used it I've reached the sound I wanted.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio Thanks a lot 👍🏼
The Gainlab is nice for the money, can be a bit noisy if you have an unlucky unit. Has the pulteq thing if that’s what your looking for.
@@HOUSEARREST1 Yeah I’m looking for a Pulltec style eq, the Gainlab has an extra parametric band which makes it more versatile imo. I also like the Tegeler EQP-1 but I think I need to do a shootout between the two one day. Thanks for your thoughts 👍🏼
@@Studio22mix Had them both, in that case the Gainlab would be my choice, covers more ground and has a sound that’s harder to get ITB then the Tegeler.
Can’t go wrong with either of them really, both not really mastering grade but definitely fun to use.