I think MHJ knows this doesn’t hold any legal weight that’s why she herself isn’t saying anything and letting these girls and their parents do all the dirty work while she hides behind the scenes, it’s an obvious case of if she can’t have them than nobody can so she’s trying to destroy what she thinks she’s has made and what to her rightful belongs to her.
That's what I thought as well from the beginning when all this started. If She (MHJ) can't have NJ then no one will. It's sad that these girls/parents can't see what's going on here.
I thought the same way too. But I just remembered that she just gave these girls a name NJ. She took them from SOURCE MUSIC and even ruined other girls future. Because she took 6 or seven of them from Source. Per Bang PD to helped her and gave that chance, and shares and start ADOR. The biggest mistakes of BANG PD as I may say. Smh
Oh I forgot to add that New Jeans moves scream we need revenue. This has gone on longer than they planned and they don’t have major company backing to pay the bills anymore.
@@lboogi You know someone mentioned how they are promoting in South Korea because opinions have changed. So they’re aiming on global support because of the court/legal fees.
57:49 At this point if they end up winning, I'm going to assume the judges or whoever were bribed. No matter how confident you are about your odds of winning, you still want to be smart about your next steps and NJZ are being reckless.
Did these girls not sign individual contracts? So Hanni can claim “alleged”mistreatment as a reason for termination but what about the rest?😂 damn March 7th should come soon
YES! They mostly would have to individual got to court for the claims of ADOR violations. Hanni would go alone for the ignoring incident. Honestly idk what other girls would go to court for independently.
I think a tabloid as big as dispatch actually has a bigger duty to report accurately due to the huge amount of legal liability they are subject to if false.
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I swear these folks don’t think fat meat is greasy! If they think that operating on foreign soil will save them, or that foreign investment will offset whatever legal fees/penalties they may incur in a lawsuit… woooo they are so sadly mistaken. That Adore “regretful” statement isn’t Adore backing down… that is them saying it’s regretful that you’re going to continue giving us evidence to whoop you in court. It is regretful that we now will bury y’all in court. So sad
@ so sorry but now I must crush you. It’s a play stupid games, win stupid prizes situation. So sad for these girls, it really is. And their fans don’t get how terrible this will really be for these girls.
ADOR and HYBE are definitely going to make an example of MinheeJeans. Because if they don't the precedent that sets for the entire industry will have such a big impact it will change the way everything is done even more than this already has.
It does make sense if you think about all these KK supporters/hybe haters are anticipating kao kao going public. Supposedly that mv director has tens of millions on the line if they do go public.
I always find it concerning when people say they can't trust ANY journalists to accurately report on a narrative. Yes, there are journalists who are corrupt and bought, but real journalism has ethical and professional standards, as well as transparency in how they report. By them controlling the narrative - they've removed that transparency with readers. The only people who will believe their statements are people who already support their cause by any means necessary.
The continued audacious, provocative, criminal abuse by MHJ and her accomplices NJ, is a huge indication they feel so assured of reaching their goal. It’s so illogical. It’s such a mess. I’m now thinking MHJ is erratic, unstable, turbulent and fitful . She’s unable to perform in a rational, methodical and logical manner. That theory plays into her inability to meet deadlines, come up with creative product, hence ripping off other concepts. In short, she’s all over the place and she creates mess wherever she goes. Her work practices are erratic and this explains her messing up NJ debut. too. Curious that she endlessly bashes us about her amazing creativity. That’s what I think.
I really don’t see how a court can side with them. Now that they aren’t even waiting for a court decision it seems they even think the court doesn’t have the power to weigh in on the subject. Meaning they believe whether it’s legal or not, we are going to do it doesn’t matter. So how can that be beneficial to their case in any way…of course they will need to pay penalties but now that they have moved forward it seems things could be even worse than just the first round of penalties since they are getting ready to perform at this event…
Danielle in the interview "ador filled an injunction?” She deadass asked instead of stating. She doesn’t know what an injunction is. They are clueless. They are cooked. The point of no return is finally here… I, at last, don’t see a world where they go back to ador anymore. And it saddens me so much. HYBE girl group curse? I’m the one with a girl group curse!!! First blackpink and now newjeans?! Just starvation and disappointment back to back… 2025 is gonna be ugly for them Also wasn’t one of their demands to ador to "preserve the njs identity and style"? So them rebranding with a whole new concept doesn’t directly contradict what they claim to have left ador for? So sorry illit, you really were just something they were willing to step on and then throw away Their lack of tiktok presence is weird to me. I was sure they were gonna go for it harder than Instagram specially with the whole trying to appeal to international media angle.
@hostsmile6140 funny you say this! I heard they were ALLEGEDLY being "backed"(at least for this complexcon) by a fashion group out of China called Icicle. The fashion definitely looks older for the girls, but there's a lot of neutrals. Maybe it's a coincidence but I found it interesting.
She will never have her own company because she doesn't want to invest her own money. Even if she was able to have her own company, she would go bankrupt at the speed of light.
50:38 I personally feel like she’s (MHJ) is cocky and is moving like a true narcissist. She’s a weasel and is finding all types of loop holes to weasel her way through this mess. The possible new agency (could be Chinese) doesn’t surprise me, considering the former SM owner has planted new roots in China. That’s probably a loop hole her lawyers found. However I believe it’s a money making scheme to pay off the future lawsuits and penalties that will surely come their way. So I then ask if it’s indeed China, how comfortable are the parents and the members with this? Their fan base is mainly in Korea and Korean? Are they willing to start from stratch in an entirely new industry that has different rules and regulations? The Chinese entertainment industry is BRUTAL and extremely saturated and competitive. One wrong move and your are cancelled cancelled over their. Their government deletes your work from everything. Their agencies mistreat their talent to the 9th degree helll Zhao Lusi. Man those girls are in for it and that’s sad 😢
But the huge attraction of China is that Korean law decisions made against MJH and NewJeans will become irrelevant if they live there. They wouldn’t have to pay a penny in fines whilst starting out afresh. A Chinese company could not be sued either unlike a Korean one. So if they realise that they have little hope of winning then they can inflict as much damage as they can on Hybe and Ador before running away to China to escape justice.
Setting up shop in China is a CHOICE. Anyone who's ever been in business knows how challenging it is for outsiders (incl. companies) to navigate those waters. For groups like New Jeans, this is a last resort tactic - it's about being just out of Ador's and the Korean legal system's reach, it's not the fabulous renaissance their fans think it is. I've enjoyed your analysis about this case but I'm at the point where the brinksmanship is getting just so loud, I actually can't process the logic. This feels like watching the Trump playbook in action. Because most people do illegal or potentially illegal things quietly? I also can't comprehend how gently Ador is handling things. You want to leave, fine. You don't have to set everything and everyone on fire on the way out. I don't know where this rage is coming from, but it's not from two months of refusing to meet the new Ador CEO. These women have loathed Hybe well before that, and it's weird to see, because it really cannot be about supposedly being ignored once or twice. And if that's all there is to it, WOW. That is also a CHOICE. A career is something built over time, an image is something that has to endure. I wonder how this is all going to look a few years from now.
My mind must be really simple because I assumed that the pr in the name of the parent's account actually meant parents. Funnily enough, although it gives the impression that it's all parents, the very first announcement read as if it was only one person operating the account. MHJ, NJ and the parent's are constantly contradicting themselves. Something that many people either don't know, or forget is that NJ don't have one combined contract, but 5 individual contracts. It will be interesting to see if the inevitable breach of contract court case will result in 5 sets of legal fees, etc., as there will be 5 sets of penalties.
Unless the Parents plan to bribe the Judge(s), I dont see how they, i.e., members of new jeans, can justify their unilateral breaches of their exclusive contract.
If NJs truly believes their ongoing saga is with Hybe not Ador, then Danielle wouldn’t be singing the Cold Play/ BTS song because BTS is the 5th largest stockholder of Hybe. And The unfavourable attention NJs has been getting from the media is because as this situation has played out, Min Heejin has been found out to be tampering. The media coverage they had in the beginning was decidedly lopsided in their favour but now they’re squealing like a stuck pig that they’ve been victimized.
MHJ won her first injunction by claiming Ador was not HYBE. (She did not harm Ador only HYBE.) So the girls can only claim harm by Ador, not Hybe no matter how much they claim Ador/hybe is the same big bad entity.
@@imthecoolest50why do people like you never know details that are important? Hybe is hybe because of how hard BTS worked and it should not be ruined cuz MHJ can’t act like an adult or a proper business woman.. if you can even call her that. We will back BTS wherever they are, with whatever they decide for their futures. They’re in hybe and MHJ dumbass plans for taking down hybe will not work. Not to mention all the other groups who ain’t got jack shit to do with her feud with hybe. We don’t like MHJ and she specifically stated she wanted to take down BTS - you really think army is gonna just let that be? Gotta be fucking kidding me. When we protect, we fucking protect. Newjeans only had a problem when MHJ was demoted and finally just left anyways. Claiming it had be happening since debut should fall on MHJ too but they don’t blame her for shit. Anyways - yeah, we will protect hybe as it protects BTS in the long run. Bang pd and BTS deserves all that they’ve earned and MHJ can try to tear it down but it won’t happen. She can tear down newjeans for all we care, even the girls don’t care about it anymore.
I'm guessing that Ador will file an emergency injunction for the concert. And then the members will say that's an example of mistreatment when it's actually just protecting Ador's IP. (Also "a bitch with a camera" should be merch)
P.S. Are they only performing the new song? Because there's no way they have the rights to the old songs. And they probably don't have the rights to a new song either, most contracts (generally speaking) have a clause that states anything created while under contract is the IP of the corporation.
@@kanohane Performance, convention, concert, the semantics mean nothing. I've worked for this convention when it was in Los Angeles and the performances were like mini concerts. Festival style. Think kcon, but hip hop
kpopies on twt said, oooh this is how you change the idol industry. like no babe, they are being juvinile, their parents are all incompetent adults include their lawyers as well. 5-10 years from now, not sure of tokkis will have the same confidence as today.
Since you mentioned NJS’s development in the Chinese entertainment industry or the broader environment in China, I wanted to share what I’ve seen about their public perception on Chinese social media. For most casual followers who aren’t hardcore K-pop fans, NJS still has a pretty decent public image. This is mainly because MXZ has been riding on the massive marketing influence of Kakao and SM in China’s entertainment industry. If you look closely at their press releases, you’ll notice they’re pushed out by a bunch of the same marketing accounts. SM’s online PR game in China is insanely strong-just to give an example, they’ve managed to whitewash male idols involved in scandals like soliciting prostitutes, sleeping with fans, and even allegations of sexual violence, turning them into “harmless boys who just made little mistakes.” So in terms of public opinion on the broader Chinese internet, NJS still has a solid market to “retire comfortably.” But here’s the catch-public interest in them will inevitably fade over time, and competition in China’s entertainment industry is brutal. Plus, with Hanni’s political background (opposing communism) in the mix, they’ll probably have to navigate the Chinese market carefully by focusing on Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan, or cautiously testing the waters in coastal cities. This means their potential market size is pretty limited, and the money they make might end up being way less than what they were expecting when they ditched ADOR. Meanwhile, on Chinese platforms with a high concentration of K-pop fans-where people are well-informed and closely follow the latest developments-NJS and MXZ have a terrible reputation. Fans on platforms like Douban are fully aware of the situation and aren’t buying into the PR spin at all. These communities are actively discussing and exposing everything that’s happening, making it even harder for NJS to establish themselves in China’s entertainment industry. By the time they actually manage to gain a foothold, there’s a good chance people will have already moved on and forgotten about them.
What’s even more interesting is that if HYBE publicly comments on NJS’s contract breach-or even just states the facts-NJS might actually be able to sue HYBE for defamation in China. I’m not sure how this would play out under other countries’ legal systems, but in China, if NJS frames their contract violation as a private matter, the legal definition of defamation can be broad enough that simply exposing their breach could be considered damaging to their “reputation.” In China, many male celebrities have used this exact tactic to silence discussions about their scandals-whether it’s cheating, sleeping with fans, soliciting prostitutes, or even just criticism about their poor acting skills. They file defamation claims, arguing that any public disclosure of these issues harms their “public image,” effectively suppressing online discussions and controlling the narrative. If NJS goes this route, HYBE might find themselves in a tricky situation where even telling the truth could get them sued.
Considering all these factors, neither side is likely to come out as a winner in the Chinese entertainment market. But the real winner? That’s pretty obvious. When it comes to media manipulation, Kakao and SM undeniably have the upper hand. They’ve mastered the art of controlling public opinion, especially in China, where their PR strategies are deeply embedded in the entertainment industry’s ecosystem. On the other hand, HYBE has virtually no room to fight back. They lack the same level of influence over Chinese media, and even if they tried to push back with facts, legal loopholes and aggressive PR tactics could easily be used against them. At this point, it’s less about who’s right and more about who plays the media game better-and in that regard, Kakao and SM are simply on another level.
This is a really interesting perspective, I appreciate the detail. Each Asian market is so unique, of course China's massive size sets it apart but so do all the spoken/ unspoken rules about image and success.
Girl if I may ask, are you standing the whole 1 hour of your video😂😂 cause I can feel this discussion needs to be done standing up😂😂🎉🎉. I really enjoy watching your videos about this issue
Great video as per usual! So there is like not one parent or member against this mess? I’m starting to believe that MHJ has some dirt on the parents and possibly the members and she’s using it against them to be on her side. I just cannot believe that they are all for this… Can they not see how badly this could get especially with how Ador is sending subtle warnings to them and Hype is known for being passive aggressive. They are in this for the long run whilst NJ and MHJ are making reckless short term mistakes that have long term consequences.
I think MJH has simply promised these girls and their parents tons of money in their futures if they just follow her. Larger percentages, business deals, etc. It is simply their greed and belief that they themselves/ their children are somehow more special and deserving than everyone else. I don’t think it’s all that complicated as to what their motives are.
Probably true but if it goes against them, as I believe it will, a bigger percentage of nothing is still nothing. And the debts could go on for years if not decades.
@@lizbailey7748 oh I agree nothing from nothing equals nothing… but I don’t think they’re thinking about that. I think they think that they can out smart these multi billion dollar companies or that they are special enough that other companies will snatch them up and everything will be ok. Sadly that’s not how business works.
I agree. That one statement she posted with hyein's name in it after it was her uncle that leaked chats so...ask yourself if we've heard from that uncle since? I think it was a warning.
I feel like the girls see this as a game and not something that can have real-life consequences. They remind me of people who peaked in high school. I dont mind them wanting to not be part of Ador , but the way they are doing this is just not right.
Choices were made. Consequences will be had. I love this. And I hope that's what will happen! Edit: Just watching the beginning because I came in late. BUT what I just noticed... might it be that their PR company threw them out? Might that be why "the parents" have taken over?
I'm just so confused by Nj's actions. It doesn’t surprise me one bit that they are 100% on Mhj's side and that they completely believe in her conspiracy theories of 'Hybe trying to get rid of Nj because they are jealous' after all the brainwashing they went through under her leadership. The thing I don't understand is why they chose to act this soon and not wait for any legal decisions. Their contracts are currently in a gray area, until a court ruling, that might even take 2+ years, decides wether the contract has been valid or invalid all along. Ador is playing by the book to make sure that, if the court's ruling doesn't go in their favor, they at least don't have to pay any penalties eg for forcing Nj to work even though the contract would then later be determined invalid. But on the other hand, the members of Nj are just taking all of these extreme measures that, if the court doesn't side with them, they would have broken so many clauses in their contract and would surely be liable for the huge damages their immature actions have caused. These penalties could seriously destroy their futures (I'm talking absolute financial ruin and an image that has been tainted beyond recovery). I get the appeal of just trying to forget about all this mess going on and wanting to focus on what makes them happy, which is making music and performing in front of fans, I just don't see in what world this short-term satisfaction is worth the risk and I geniunely don't get how the members of Nj are this confident that they will win. It feels like all the accusations that Nj brought up are ultimately just based on onesided hurt feelings and now they're just doing whatever makes them feel good in the moment with no regards to the impact their decisions could have on them and the people around them.
@@chaaae-f1y they are not being advised on what is good for them. Everything that they are doing is for MHJ benefit and not theirs. This rushed name change and redebut is keep their name out their, get possible investors and make money to pay MHJ.
They are moving fast because they need money. Lawyers cost beaucoup dollars and they don’t have company backing to pay for things. They aren’t performing or touring. They have no more endorsements. And what they did do… most of that money goes to the company and staff. The money is going out faster than it’s coming in now.. they have to move to make more
They definitely won’t make as much money internationally.. and they’ll likely be treated WORSE in the long run. They had such potential in Korea. I fear the Korean public will NOT be kind if they choose another East Asian company. I’m not sure they’ll make much money in the western market either. ESPECIALLY with those baby hairs and “street wear”
@@lizbailey7748 as a black American it is annoying 😂 every time a musician wants to break free of an image they use our culture. On that point only i hope there’s some feedback from United States. I’m sick of the cosplay.
Disappointed in CNN for calling them one of the biggest selling Kpop acts. They are a rookie group who aren’t even one of the biggest selling women Kpop groups. But of course CNN mentioned BTS in the article. 😮
This has been going on for months but I still don't know what these girls are really complaining about that would merit "mistreatment"? Like, is it the Hanni ignoring issue? Not meeting the 2-week deadline? Not reinstating their old CEO? I'm so confused 😂
I think the fact that all of NewJeans members are from rich families,is also giving them this much confidence and audacity, because an idol who is struggling to make ends meet and trying to save his/her family from poverty wouldn't dig up trouble in the name of love for MHJ
No because Hybe was generating hundreds of articles a day against NewJeans? What hundreds of articles? You mean the three or five in Korean media that were then translated and regurgitated by other companies and platforms across weeks? Because when I search I can only find new information on three or four sites, the rest are just older, rephrased or poorly informed articles, and often in support of the girls.
NJZ is the stupidest option they could have chosen because it so blatantly is intended to confuse casual listeners and make them think that NewJeans is still NewJeans, they just have a new cute acronym. Like, Stray Kids haven't rebranded to SKZ! They haven't left JYP! But people call them SKZ all the time and they use SKZ in their content all the time (SKZ-TALKER, SKZ-CODE, SKZ-REPLAY, etc.) And as a STAY, when I read "SKZ," I switch between reading it as "Skizz" "Skijeu" and just plain "Stray Kids." It's so clear that the main reason behind picking NJZ as their "rebrand" is because they want people to look at it and still read it in their brains as "NewJeans."
Finally a voice of reason. Thank you for doing your research and knowing how MHJ is influencing the girls and their parents. These girls are going to ruin their lives even more than they already have. I cannot believe as a parent they actually think going with MHJ is the right path to take. As a parent of a daughter their age I’m completely dumbfounded at their choices for their daughters. I think I’m smarter than the average parent in terms of business at least and these girls are going to regret pretty much every decision they have made since trying to leave Ador. This new account by the parents stinks of MHJ. Since no journalist is writing anything positive about MHJ she is now using any method to get back at Ador/HYBE and get her message out. I’m sorry but I really can’t say anything good about MHJ mostly because I have integrity.
It must be said that it is extremely disastrous if they do these things before the court takes place, legally they still have a contract with ADOR, and changing their name will also make them increase their violations, you have to know that this is a contract and this is business, everything is on paper, you can't just go to a press conference and say to terminate the contract so easily, if so then what does the contract mean in any field, the fact that they appeared on CNN is also a disastrous move for them, they said HYBE mistreated them without any concrete evidence and everything comes from their feelings when MHJ was fired, the fact that they spoke on CNN is no different than them slandering the entire KPOP music industry, not just HYBE, it will affect the development of many groups, I'm not talking about NJ but any group, don't let your ego ruin your entire career, as influential artists, you have to do it professionally
Another question... Complex is a U.S. based company (formerly a magazine, now online) and I'm sure the Hong Kong convention is a franchise of the company. But in that case can the U.S. based company sue/be sued? Can they sue for damaging the name if the Chinese convention gets sued by Ador? Can Ador sue them? It's getting infinitely more complicated
@@karakask5488 it depends really, like they could sue them but it’s harder to sue an overseas company bc they would need to come to korea for the court stuff; they haven’t broken any USA laws so they would be good if they stayed over here
malicious intent, will get them blacklisted from everywhere... No one will want to deal with them. No label in America, Korean, Japan will want to deal with it, it's a landmine... If it is found that the contract still holds water, it's easy, the label takes ownership of the music and distribution rights, and then royalties would be paid from that. If Ador decides they don't want the headache they could just bury the music, and it would be sent to the dungeon so no one would be paid except for Ador, since it was broadcasted, Ador could sue the media company broadcasting the music they have no rights to.
About, MHJ lowering the value of ADOR, wasn't MHJ original plan to make ADOR an empty shell so she can get someone to buy it? That would explain why NJs keep doing stuff that seem so bold and incriminating and why their lawyers are not telling them to stop but on the contrary, seem to be encouraging provocative behavior, like choosing a name so close to NJs. The lawyers ultimate goal is not to free NJs from their contract, is to get MHJ to take over ADOR. After all they are not entertainment lawyers, but corporate lawyers that specialize in take overs right? The more lawsuits ADOR files against NJs, the more it costs them and the more ADOR will become a burden for HYBE, since they have no other artist to make up for that cost. Maybe NJs have agreed on this plan in exchage for shares when ADOR is bought.
What’s annoying is I’m not entirely sure what the ISSUE is?? The girls are claiming mistreatment but is that grounds for all of these actions they’re taking? I’m not excusing mistreatment or anything but that just seems a little small in comparison to what could’ve been bigger issues such as being verbally, physically or even financially abused or harassed. Depending on what they mean by “mistreatment”, that’s not the same thing as the company doing things inhumane or illegal towards them which I doubt is the case. And I hate to say it but most working class citizens get mistreated in the job place. Again, I’m not excusing it nor do I think it’s right but as someone who works in the food industry, I can ensure it’s in EVERY job. Unless you work in a position of power, you’re most likely going to get mistreated in some way (depending on your definition of mistreatment) if you work at the bottom of the food chain if you get what I mean. But even then in NJZs case, they actually were not at the bottom of the food chain as far as I’m aware. They were living lavish. Making millions of dollars out the gate. etc. I don’t know why they think them in particular getting “mistreated” somehow makes them special. And understand, I’m not trying to put them down. If they in fact have been mistreated to the point where they needed to leave the company then they absolutely should say and do something about it. The PROBLEM is, they didn’t start claiming mistreatment/etc until after Hybe/Ador started filing lawsuits and injunctions towards them once they decided to not participate in any activities with them after MHJ was fired. In other words, they never would’ve spoke up on this alleged mistreatment if the company kept MHJ. If you were getting mistreated THAT badly you would’ve said or did something despite whatever’s going on with MHJ. As far as I’m concerned whatever MHJs situation is, is separate from what NJZ is saying their issue with Hybe/Ador is which they ironically didn’t say anything about it until MHJs drama started. Hopefully I made sense.
@ what does you being “Black” have to do with anything? If it’s not cultural appropriation then what is it? What other culture does it come from? If it’s not appropriating specifically Black American culture then why mix the “baby hairs” with the tims and BAPE fashions? They were already prancing around like 90s TLC. So what’s different about the costume now that doesn’t make it cultural appropriation? And to be clear I’m actually a Black person, from America, old enough to remember TLC the first time around, and old enough to be able to recognize and call out cultural appropriation when I see it in front of my face.
These girls are talented, but not worth all this. There will be more talented “ kids” that will come along who will be the thankful for opportunities. Now, they have public sympathy … which is dwindling because these girls are very arrogant. They haven’t figured out that these companies will mess them up for life… listening to the wrong people.
I mean if ADOR gets the money that would be their best bet, because even if (not a possibility though) the members come back to ador ... they will never earn as much as they used to after one year of slandering their on brand
Honestly every move they have made recently I get the feeling that they are trying anything and everything to make Ador be the one to instigate a case against them for breaking the contract. Instead Ador and Hybe are being incredibly patient with them and bending over backwards trying to bring them back into the fold, which in a court case you would think makes them look more positive to the court than what the girls and MHJ are doing.
Great vid as always! If Minijeans going with China backing "back stabbing" aren't most of their parents Korean and live in Korea? Will they be considered pariah or ostracized? With the international market, the U.S. is a big part of that. Not sure about the accuracy, but been stated U.S. is putting a band on what they consider Chinese military companies, ex. Kakoa is supposedly listed and they are a double % investor in SM, SM might be listed too.... If true, Minijeans could be in more trouble if they are going with a Chinese agency that gets on that list & plan to focus internationally! Again, all speculation!
This is just speculation but….Bonnie Chan woo is ceo of complex con Hong Kong . She is part of sv vision which is a branding and entertainment company. They might be willing to back njz and MHJ . They also have offices in US so probably makes it easier for Ador to go after them legally.
Another great post. Am I the only one who thinks this “convention” appearance is a test run, an audition if you will, for the people/corporations that are the silent “backers”? I believe that their last appearance internationally was cancelled due to low ticket sales. Also doesn’t China ban Korean music content? I remember Jackson Wang having to make public statements that he is Chinese. Anyway thanks for the update. Also your void kitty is adorable 🙂
NJ want Adore to file a law suite against them and Adore is not taking the bait. That’s why NJ are doing all these ridiculous things to taunt them. Something big is coming that’s why they have been doing press conferences. Also the press conference was so scripted. Their legal team probably advised them that Adore cannot sue them for penalties.
I'm sorry, but they don't have a chance in western industry, and I don't mean it in a mean way. It's just that industry first-likes more something unique and individual, and second is heavy on playlisting, radio, sponsor adds, and payola, which MHJ will not give them. They will clash with hard reality when their new music does not accomplish anything. So probably the only reality for them would be Chinese industry, but as I read a little ab how they treat idols, celebs, etc they should actually avoid it the most. As much as their behavior is frustrating, I assume no one would like to read that in the future they were treated like real slaves.
Thanks so much for the update and analysis-great job! For the AMA, can you talk just a little about how you see K-pop developing in the next 5-10 years? (And a very minor little note: at 50:43 it was bit hard to understand what you were were saying during the laugh, and at 56:10 the whispered "lawyers" was a bit too quiet both times; maybe a louder whisper like at 57:21 or even a bit louder-maybe a "stage whisper"-would be nice for whispers moving forward.)
One more thing - Complex Con is not actually Chinese, it's an American event, that only now has a first edition in Hongkong. But most likely they organise it with cooperation with some Chinese company. Also I think HYBE very much capable of suing internationally because author rights are mostly international - that's why UA-cam or Sony can execute those laws worldwide. The case with China is that... plagiarism is not really illegal so I assume using someone's name is neither. But boy if they really want to be under Chinese company, they'll only see now what mistreatment is. Also I'm sure someone promised to pay them off but let's be honest this will never happen because those girlies have barely any value anymore and no Chinese company has a reach as wide as HYBE does. They'll be tricked and I can't wait for that moment
I said this in another comment section but its still true, njs and tokkis, in my opinion, have never experienced having someone who truly loves and cares about you. Because this is isn’t love, when you love someone you don’t push them to ruin everything they worked for. Mhj, njs parents and tokkis literally do not care about those girls. Mhj & the parents have clearly put money above njs and tokkis think that they are being good fans by cheering and clapping while njs burn down their careers and reputations. And its just sad man because njs actually could have had people around them with their best interest, hell even ador advised njs to have separate legal counsel from mhj in the beginning of this mess, but njs has chosen to push away seemingly anyone who doesn’t sack ride mhj🙄🤦🏽♀️ this is gonna be something that they’ll only really understand later after someone finally tells them the actual truth and maybe after therapy sessions, this is going to be a lot for njs to handle
From what I understand, since New Jeans unilaterally terminated their contract (which was, as we now know, a valid measure available to them under the original terms of the contract), their debut under a new name fits into their legal narrative that we left the group for breach of trust and are now operating accordingly. According to some Korean legal experts, their initial press conference announcing the termination was a way of avoiding being blocked from doing business rather than going through an injunction, which would have definitely forced them to stop everything, which explains why they can technically continue to work under a new name and with a new team. We still have to see if the judge agrees with NJ's argument but I think a different issue is whether the judge will see this as an individual case and agree with New Jeans or if this sets a bad precedent for the integrity of contractual law. Any employee/freelancer/contractee should have the means to be able to leave a toxic work situation BUT is the corportation entitled to any damages if the contract isn't respected and/or is it also the employee or contractor's duty to try and resolve the issue in a reasonable manner? Also, the core legal argument from Hybe is that MHJ tried to poach NJ which is what accelerated whatever issues NJ brought forward and not the other way around. So although Hybe's first legal complaint failed, the judge did highlight that MHJ was in fact at least thinking of poaching both ADOR and NJ. March can't come fast enough tbh.
Do we actually know the terms of the contract, I must have missed that. Did MHJ have the power as CEO of Ador to actually change contract terms from their original contracts with presumably either Hybe or Source Music from their trainee days?
bunnies keep mentioning this phrase in the contract but I still have yet to see the full contract, from start to finish, from what I understand this phrase is in nearly every contract, it’s not special to newjeans, which is why i want to see the whole contract bc if they could find this phrase, then they should have the rest of it
The chances of you seeing their individual contracts are probably not very likely. None of our business. You can ask for the contract to be terminated but you would need to state your specific reasons and be prepared to go to court to have it cancelled. Same as any other legal contract otherwise you can state anything without any evidence and walk away which I can’t see any legal system tolerating.
I think your best comment in this hour was “you are not even playing with fire, you are playing with lava”. That sums up this whole situation perfectly! Thank you for sharing your opinion, I agree on everything and can’t wait for the Dispatch bomb and the court hearings early March and April anymore. ❤
my biggest worry is IF they got Chinese investors,.. i am worried what MHJ promised the investors dealing with NJZ. Getting the idea of dodgy and dirty people MHJ deals with, those girls aren't safe... what do they want from the girls? Because, i am doubtful it's their just the girls music and dancing they want, if these investors are forking out A LOT of money to go up against Ador/Hybe, they will be asking for a lot more... just sayin'.
Did you not know that the Mexican girl group that MHJ stole from the beginning...just rebranded a while back as.....ready?.....NJS!!! ....When I saw that I giggled bc figured they're getting back at UsedJeans.....BUT now this happens with UsedJeans (NJZ)...look familiar?....I believe MHJ has never had an original idea in her life....its all copies from others!!! Now also...tell me how UsedJeans are gonna perform in China with only 1 song?....they can't sing any of their old ones...those belong to the company....?!?
First, the lack of creativity of it all, the copy and paste of 2 other K. Pop girl groups with this new look are so obvious. But the copy and paste of the 90 style is their thing.There's no originally with them from the beginning. But have y'all heard of the old saying (giving someone enough rope. They will hang themselves), and I think that's what adore and hybe is doing. With these spoil/ entitled brats, and it's going to bite them in the butt. their lack of self-preservation is astonishing, but you know what (they have touched. The stove to know that it Burns). The ignorance of thinking they can get away with it. And not impact the whole K-Pop/Music community business. lol . They are not even on the level of BTS. As I keep on saying, if poor Kesha couldn't get out of her contract, not lit a couple of years ago now , who are y'all?
Before I even watch the video, I want to say that Jeans, the Mexican girl group, had a rebrand in 2016 and they're called JNS now. Doesn't that sound familiar 🤔
34:01 to me it screams "we need to make money quickly bc we couldn't sign with a lot/any brands for ads" I do wonder how judges would react to this move. I don't take judges for ppl who appreciate it when their authority is overlooked I believe ADOR said that minheejeans should've at least waited for the court decision before doing this.
At this point, Hybe should take down MHJ for years ….. for starting all this nonsense. BTS will be back in a few months….who will care about these Temu jeans girls. And sue the parents as well…. I bet their signature is somewhere on the contract especially if some were underage..
MHJ was trying to overtake HYBR from before new jeans existed, basically almost from the moment she got hired. That means this was planned and most likely she never really left SM. It's also obvious someone powerful is pulling strings, because for example the CNN guy who interviewed them is a political commentator and awarded journalist that never EVER covered any entertainment subject. So most likely need making a favor to some politician or to someone who is able to give him access to the one. In my personal opinion the goal now is to damage the whole k-pop industry, so that investors would be careful with investigation into small and independent labels, and by proxy -in HYBE. It's also a great excuse to bring back sl*ve contracts. Please do done research on potential kakao involvement, especially the stock issue. PS. Lawyers obviously work for whoever is backing MHJ and head an interest in destroying HYBE - therefore they work with their goal with mind
As someone of a similar age to NJs parents', I would have put my message in the comment section. I wouldn't know how to put words in the picture part unless I took a picture of it, and that wouldn't look serious enough. Great analysis as always!
But all the bunnies online are not looking at things realistically and are just encouraging everything (like they have been since the beginning), you would think that if it they are such huge fans, they would do more research first (I am talking about bunnies that are closer to or are adults, not the younger fans, because that would make sense).
it just came to my mind what if MHJ win the lawsuit about the shareholder contract and hybe have to assigned her to be the CEO again? these girls are gonna get back to ADOR and they wont have to pay the fine. can this happen?
Those are not the same things. The shareholders agreement contract stipulates that MHJ should get 13x her share value provided that she does not breach the contract. Hybe is claiming she breached it by leaking it to the press. It was recently revealed that the shareholders agreement also stipulates that she doesn't cause any damage to ADOR or the other Hybe subsidiaries. I think this is why she and the NJ camp have not addressed the tampering allegations and why some lawyers believe the Belift and Source Music cases will affect the outcome of the shareholders agreement case. If she wins the shareholders agreement case, she gets the 13x valuation. If she doesn't win, she gets the normal value of her shares. The CEO position is tied to being a director. Apparently, you can't be a CEO in Korea if you are not on the board of directors. The board of directors (of ADOR) were the ones who removed her from the CEO position and she lost the second injunction because of this.
Guys are minhijins puppets, they're arrogant group they are thinking they're above others they think they are d new BTS as their mhjin so calls them, BTS has their own legal advisers aside fr hybes legal advisers but d boys r still humble and is not bypassing hybes policy they build hybe and within it but I'll never see them being proud and boastful.. new jeans are stressful group they have broken so many policies and rules fr adore and hybe they're not thinking so naive at most, w few awards they're thinking they're untouchable and better than d rest Omg this group I don't like em.
I want to name them "Breech of Contract" BoC! their fandom can be Paralegals. BoC and the PLs coming at you from an international legal grey area, singing their new single "Sugar Daddy paid the Penalty" Sorry. I'm done with the audacity. I hope this doesn't ruin the girls' lives, but if they never work as idols again I wont lose sleep.
Its insanely crazy to me how mhj originally always wanted to take OUT newjeans. AND EITHER WAY she is unfortunately succeeding in it while making ADOR/HYBE the biggest villains biggest bad guys of this whole drama. WHILE ALSO DRAGGING OTHER IDOLS like lsfm illit bts and etc. I think that at the end of the day, she IS INDEED GONNA SUCCEED TO TAKE new jeans out of that company and you're right there's someone who is BACKING THEM UP BIG TIME AND IT IS AN INTERNATIONAL ENTITY (more likely chinese)
@CeciJosa I mean in all honesty and from what I'm seeing on twt, ig and even some yt reactors...like when they announced they're njz now, ppl/their fans were like 'yes let's go' 'so proud of our girls' 'njz are back' and what not. Forgetting that they're supporting the girls who are ass licking oop I mean supporting a woman who is clearly an SA enabler (mind u she tried to burry the segxual ass ault case of one of her employees), a p3d0 and horrible person who called them f a t p i g s while she was their ceo. So i dont get the support.
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I think MHJ knows this doesn’t hold any legal weight that’s why she herself isn’t saying anything and letting these girls and their parents do all the dirty work while she hides behind the scenes, it’s an obvious case of if she can’t have them than nobody can so she’s trying to destroy what she thinks she’s has made and what to her rightful belongs to her.
I think the same way too
Agree 💯
That's what I thought as well from the beginning when all this started. If She (MHJ) can't have NJ then no one will. It's sad that these girls/parents can't see what's going on here.
I thought the same way too. But I just remembered that she just gave these girls a name NJ. She took them from SOURCE MUSIC and even ruined other girls future. Because she took 6 or seven of them from Source. Per Bang PD to helped her and gave that chance, and shares and start ADOR. The biggest mistakes of BANG PD as I may say. Smh
Cool story bro. Are you writing for a k-drama?
Did you know that Mexican pop group Jeans was later rebranded as JNS? 🤔Let's pass for originality, again!!!
Recently learned the 90's Mexican group Jeans eventually changed their name to JNS so are NewJeans still "paying tribute" to them by using NJZ? 🤣
Consumer Confusion Test - If fans still associate NJZ with "NewJeans" under ADOR, ADOR could challenge it legally.
Oh I forgot to add that New Jeans moves scream we need revenue. This has gone on longer than they planned and they don’t have major company backing to pay the bills anymore.
@@lboogi yes they’re running out of coins
@@lboogi You know someone mentioned how they are promoting in South Korea because opinions have changed. So they’re aiming on global support because of the court/legal fees.
57:49 At this point if they end up winning, I'm going to assume the judges or whoever were bribed. No matter how confident you are about your odds of winning, you still want to be smart about your next steps and NJZ are being reckless.
people always say "oh, how could MHJ brainwash the girls AND their parents" but like... it seems like she didn't really have to with the parents
Did these girls not sign individual contracts? So Hanni can claim “alleged”mistreatment as a reason for termination but what about the rest?😂 damn March 7th should come soon
YES! They mostly would have to individual got to court for the claims of ADOR violations. Hanni would go alone for the ignoring incident. Honestly idk what other girls would go to court for independently.
March in just for advertising injuction
@@memeginamae well we’ll at least get a fair idea of how the actual case might turn out
I think a tabloid as big as dispatch actually has a bigger duty to report accurately due to the huge amount of legal liability they are subject to if false.
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I swear these folks don’t think fat meat is greasy! If they think that operating on foreign soil will save them, or that foreign investment will offset whatever legal fees/penalties they may incur in a lawsuit… woooo they are so sadly mistaken. That Adore “regretful” statement isn’t Adore backing down… that is them saying it’s regretful that you’re going to continue giving us evidence to whoop you in court. It is regretful that we now will bury y’all in court. So sad
its a "i'm sorry little one" statement lol. I thought the same thing.
@ so sorry but now I must crush you. It’s a play stupid games, win stupid prizes situation. So sad for these girls, it really is. And their fans don’t get how terrible this will really be for these girls.
ADOR and HYBE are definitely going to make an example of MinheeJeans. Because if they don't the precedent that sets for the entire industry will have such a big impact it will change the way everything is done even more than this already has.
I assumed MHJ was a SM plant from day 1..I think she was behind scootergate too
this!!! i have the same feeling since she some employees who are so loyal and im pretty sure she still have strong connections with SM
@@silinoie Not with SM, but Kakao. Kakao is the majority SM shareholder. Kakao is the main competitor of Hybe.
It does make sense if you think about all these KK supporters/hybe haters are anticipating kao kao going public. Supposedly that mv director has tens of millions on the line if they do go public.
I always find it concerning when people say they can't trust ANY journalists to accurately report on a narrative. Yes, there are journalists who are corrupt and bought, but real journalism has ethical and professional standards, as well as transparency in how they report. By them controlling the narrative - they've removed that transparency with readers. The only people who will believe their statements are people who already support their cause by any means necessary.
This is going to end with crying girls and parents begging and throwing blame. NJS could had it so good, it just doesn't make any sense.
The continued audacious, provocative, criminal abuse by MHJ and her accomplices NJ, is a huge indication they feel so assured of reaching their goal. It’s so illogical. It’s such a mess. I’m now thinking MHJ is erratic, unstable, turbulent and fitful . She’s unable to perform in a rational, methodical and logical manner. That theory plays into her inability to meet deadlines, come up with creative product, hence ripping off other concepts. In short, she’s all over the place and she creates mess wherever she goes. Her work practices are erratic and this explains her messing up NJ debut. too. Curious that she endlessly bashes us about her amazing creativity. That’s what I think.
I really don’t see how a court can side with them. Now that they aren’t even waiting for a court decision it seems they even think the court doesn’t have the power to weigh in on the subject. Meaning they believe whether it’s legal or not, we are going to do it doesn’t matter. So how can that be beneficial to their case in any way…of course they will need to pay penalties but now that they have moved forward it seems things could be even worse than just the first round of penalties since they are getting ready to perform at this event…
They are like that delusional spouse who think they can marry again before they finalize their divorce in court.
@@HailToTheMeep gypsy rose 🤣💀💀
As someone who was a huge bunny up until late December, this is probably the first time I have hoped for the downfall of a group that was once my fave
Danielle in the interview "ador filled an injunction?” She deadass asked instead of stating. She doesn’t know what an injunction is. They are clueless. They are cooked. The point of no return is finally here… I, at last, don’t see a world where they go back to ador anymore. And it saddens me so much. HYBE girl group curse? I’m the one with a girl group curse!!! First blackpink and now newjeans?! Just starvation and disappointment back to back… 2025 is gonna be ugly for them
Also wasn’t one of their demands to ador to "preserve the njs identity and style"? So them rebranding with a whole new concept doesn’t directly contradict what they claim to have left ador for? So sorry illit, you really were just something they were willing to step on and then throw away
Their lack of tiktok presence is weird to me. I was sure they were gonna go for it harder than Instagram specially with the whole trying to appeal to international media angle.
@catyroyalty they are look like 35 years old now what happened now
@@hostsmile6140they may be stressed asf and might not be sleeping well
@hostsmile6140 funny you say this! I heard they were ALLEGEDLY being "backed"(at least for this complexcon) by a fashion group out of China called Icicle. The fashion definitely looks older for the girls, but there's a lot of neutrals. Maybe it's a coincidence but I found it interesting.
All this BAD drama is all about Min Hee Jin's ultimate goal to have her own company as big as Hybe by using New Jeans & their parents... my opinion.
That’s the core issue here. Yesssssss. Sabotage and espionage, slander and defamation, embezzlement = the core issue.
yes, MHJ literally wanted to destroy BTS & Hybe.....which is why I cannot for the life of me understand why ppl still support what Nj are doing
She will never have her own company because she doesn't want to invest her own money.
Even if she was able to have her own company, she would go bankrupt at the speed of light.
50:38 I personally feel like she’s (MHJ) is cocky and is moving like a true narcissist. She’s a weasel and is finding all types of loop holes to weasel her way through this mess.
The possible new agency (could be Chinese) doesn’t surprise me, considering the former SM owner has planted new roots in China. That’s probably a loop hole her lawyers found. However I believe it’s a money making scheme to pay off the future lawsuits and penalties that will surely come their way.
So I then ask if it’s indeed China, how comfortable are the parents and the members with this? Their fan base is mainly in Korea and Korean? Are they willing to start from stratch in an entirely new industry that has different rules and regulations? The Chinese entertainment industry is BRUTAL and extremely saturated and competitive. One wrong move and your are cancelled cancelled over their. Their government deletes your work from everything. Their agencies mistreat their talent to the 9th degree helll Zhao Lusi. Man those girls are in for it and that’s sad 😢
But the huge attraction of China is that Korean law decisions made against MJH and NewJeans will become irrelevant if they live there. They wouldn’t have to pay a penny in fines whilst starting out afresh. A Chinese company could not be sued either unlike a Korean one. So if they realise that they have little hope of winning then they can inflict as much damage as they can on Hybe and Ador before running away to China to escape justice.
Setting up shop in China is a CHOICE. Anyone who's ever been in business knows how challenging it is for outsiders (incl. companies) to navigate those waters. For groups like New Jeans, this is a last resort tactic - it's about being just out of Ador's and the Korean legal system's reach, it's not the fabulous renaissance their fans think it is.
I've enjoyed your analysis about this case but I'm at the point where the brinksmanship is getting just so loud, I actually can't process the logic. This feels like watching the Trump playbook in action. Because most people do illegal or potentially illegal things quietly? I also can't comprehend how gently Ador is handling things.
You want to leave, fine. You don't have to set everything and everyone on fire on the way out. I don't know where this rage is coming from, but it's not from two months of refusing to meet the new Ador CEO. These women have loathed Hybe well before that, and it's weird to see, because it really cannot be about supposedly being ignored once or twice. And if that's all there is to it, WOW. That is also a CHOICE.
A career is something built over time, an image is something that has to endure. I wonder how this is all going to look a few years from now.
I find it wild that MHJ and NJ have been able to blatantly breach their exclusive contract for so long. Justice sure moves slowly.
not much longer, when the trial comes the girls will have a check on reality... they will not likely win this case
People have been making excuses for these gals for way too long, probably why they act the way they do, thinking they are going to get the way.
My mind must be really simple because I assumed that the pr in the name of the parent's account actually meant parents. Funnily enough, although it gives the impression that it's all parents, the very first announcement read as if it was only one person operating the account.
MHJ, NJ and the parent's are constantly contradicting themselves.
Something that many people either don't know, or forget is that NJ don't have one combined contract, but 5 individual contracts. It will be interesting to see if the inevitable breach of contract court case will result in 5 sets of legal fees, etc., as there will be 5 sets of penalties.
Unless the Parents plan to bribe the Judge(s), I dont see how they, i.e., members of new jeans, can justify their unilateral breaches of their exclusive contract.
If NJs truly believes their ongoing saga is with Hybe not Ador, then Danielle wouldn’t be singing the Cold Play/ BTS song because BTS is the 5th largest stockholder of Hybe. And The unfavourable attention NJs has been getting from the media is because as this situation has played out, Min Heejin has been found out to be tampering. The media coverage they had in the beginning was decidedly lopsided in their favour but now they’re squealing like a stuck pig that they’ve been victimized.
MHJ won her first injunction by claiming Ador was not HYBE. (She did not harm Ador only HYBE.) So the girls can only claim harm by Ador, not Hybe no matter how much they claim Ador/hybe is the same big bad entity.
@@ausanna5039she will lose this next court days.
BTS holds shares in HYBE? Oh so that makes sense now why people are dying to support HYBE
@@imthecoolest50 I support BTS and they built that company. So you d@mn right.
@@imthecoolest50why do people like you never know details that are important? Hybe is hybe because of how hard BTS worked and it should not be ruined cuz MHJ can’t act like an adult or a proper business woman.. if you can even call her that. We will back BTS wherever they are, with whatever they decide for their futures. They’re in hybe and MHJ dumbass plans for taking down hybe will not work. Not to mention all the other groups who ain’t got jack shit to do with her feud with hybe. We don’t like MHJ and she specifically stated she wanted to take down BTS - you really think army is gonna just let that be? Gotta be fucking kidding me. When we protect, we fucking protect. Newjeans only had a problem when MHJ was demoted and finally just left anyways. Claiming it had be happening since debut should fall on MHJ too but they don’t blame her for shit. Anyways - yeah, we will protect hybe as it protects BTS in the long run. Bang pd and BTS deserves all that they’ve earned and MHJ can try to tear it down but it won’t happen. She can tear down newjeans for all we care, even the girls don’t care about it anymore.
I always appreciate you stating your biases and providing your sources for independent research. I hope you keep making content.
I'm guessing that Ador will file an emergency injunction for the concert. And then the members will say that's an example of mistreatment when it's actually just protecting Ador's IP.
(Also "a bitch with a camera" should be merch)
@@karakask5488 Convention, not concert
@@kanohane It’s not a concert? What is the difference between the two?
P.S. Are they only performing the new song? Because there's no way they have the rights to the old songs. And they probably don't have the rights to a new song either, most contracts (generally speaking) have a clause that states anything created while under contract is the IP of the corporation.
@@kanohane Performance, convention, concert, the semantics mean nothing. I've worked for this convention when it was in Los Angeles and the performances were like mini concerts. Festival style. Think kcon, but hip hop
@@karakask5488they probably about to perform a cover of songs we all know chile… just tragic
kpopies on twt said, oooh this is how you change the idol industry. like no babe, they are being juvinile, their parents are all incompetent adults include their lawyers as well. 5-10 years from now, not sure of tokkis will have the same confidence as today.
Since you mentioned NJS’s development in the Chinese entertainment industry or the broader environment in China, I wanted to share what I’ve seen about their public perception on Chinese social media.
For most casual followers who aren’t hardcore K-pop fans, NJS still has a pretty decent public image. This is mainly because MXZ has been riding on the massive marketing influence of Kakao and SM in China’s entertainment industry. If you look closely at their press releases, you’ll notice they’re pushed out by a bunch of the same marketing accounts. SM’s online PR game in China is insanely strong-just to give an example, they’ve managed to whitewash male idols involved in scandals like soliciting prostitutes, sleeping with fans, and even allegations of sexual violence, turning them into “harmless boys who just made little mistakes.”
So in terms of public opinion on the broader Chinese internet, NJS still has a solid market to “retire comfortably.” But here’s the catch-public interest in them will inevitably fade over time, and competition in China’s entertainment industry is brutal. Plus, with Hanni’s political background (opposing communism) in the mix, they’ll probably have to navigate the Chinese market carefully by focusing on Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan, or cautiously testing the waters in coastal cities. This means their potential market size is pretty limited, and the money they make might end up being way less than what they were expecting when they ditched ADOR.
Meanwhile, on Chinese platforms with a high concentration of K-pop fans-where people are well-informed and closely follow the latest developments-NJS and MXZ have a terrible reputation. Fans on platforms like Douban are fully aware of the situation and aren’t buying into the PR spin at all. These communities are actively discussing and exposing everything that’s happening, making it even harder for NJS to establish themselves in China’s entertainment industry.
By the time they actually manage to gain a foothold, there’s a good chance people will have already moved on and forgotten about them.
What’s even more interesting is that if HYBE publicly comments on NJS’s contract breach-or even just states the facts-NJS might actually be able to sue HYBE for defamation in China. I’m not sure how this would play out under other countries’ legal systems, but in China, if NJS frames their contract violation as a private matter, the legal definition of defamation can be broad enough that simply exposing their breach could be considered damaging to their “reputation.”
In China, many male celebrities have used this exact tactic to silence discussions about their scandals-whether it’s cheating, sleeping with fans, soliciting prostitutes, or even just criticism about their poor acting skills. They file defamation claims, arguing that any public disclosure of these issues harms their “public image,” effectively suppressing online discussions and controlling the narrative. If NJS goes this route, HYBE might find themselves in a tricky situation where even telling the truth could get them sued.
Considering all these factors, neither side is likely to come out as a winner in the Chinese entertainment market. But the real winner? That’s pretty obvious.
When it comes to media manipulation, Kakao and SM undeniably have the upper hand. They’ve mastered the art of controlling public opinion, especially in China, where their PR strategies are deeply embedded in the entertainment industry’s ecosystem. On the other hand, HYBE has virtually no room to fight back. They lack the same level of influence over Chinese media, and even if they tried to push back with facts, legal loopholes and aggressive PR tactics could easily be used against them.
At this point, it’s less about who’s right and more about who plays the media game better-and in that regard, Kakao and SM are simply on another level.
This is a really interesting perspective, I appreciate the detail. Each Asian market is so unique, of course China's massive size sets it apart but so do all the spoken/ unspoken rules about image and success.
Girl if I may ask, are you standing the whole 1 hour of your video😂😂 cause I can feel this discussion needs to be done standing up😂😂🎉🎉. I really enjoy watching your videos about this issue
Great video as per usual!
So there is like not one parent or member against this mess? I’m starting to believe that MHJ has some dirt on the parents and possibly the members and she’s using it against them to be on her side. I just cannot believe that they are all for this…
Can they not see how badly this could get especially with how Ador is sending subtle warnings to them and Hype is known for being passive aggressive. They are in this for the long run whilst NJ and MHJ are making reckless short term mistakes that have long term consequences.
I think MJH has simply promised these girls and their parents tons of money in their futures if they just follow her. Larger percentages, business deals, etc.
It is simply their greed and belief that they themselves/ their children are somehow more special and deserving than everyone else. I don’t think it’s all that complicated as to what their motives are.
Probably true but if it goes against them, as I believe it will, a bigger percentage of nothing is still nothing. And the debts could go on for years if not decades.
@@lizbailey7748 oh I agree nothing from nothing equals nothing… but I don’t think they’re thinking about that. I think they think that they can out smart these multi billion dollar companies or that they are special enough that other companies will snatch them up and everything will be ok. Sadly that’s not how business works.
I agree. That one statement she posted with hyein's name in it after it was her uncle that leaked chats so...ask yourself if we've heard from that uncle since? I think it was a warning.
I feel like the girls see this as a game and not something that can have real-life consequences. They remind me of people who peaked in high school. I dont mind them wanting to not be part of Ador , but the way they are doing this is just not right.
Choices were made. Consequences will be had.
I love this. And I hope that's what will happen!
Edit: Just watching the beginning because I came in late.
BUT what I just noticed... might it be that their PR company threw them out? Might that be why "the parents" have taken over?
Hey, where abouts in Germany are you?
I'm just so confused by Nj's actions. It doesn’t surprise me one bit that they are 100% on Mhj's side and that they completely believe in her conspiracy theories of 'Hybe trying to get rid of Nj because they are jealous' after all the brainwashing they went through under her leadership. The thing I don't understand is why they chose to act this soon and not wait for any legal decisions.
Their contracts are currently in a gray area, until a court ruling, that might even take 2+ years, decides wether the contract has been valid or invalid all along. Ador is playing by the book to make sure that, if the court's ruling doesn't go in their favor, they at least don't have to pay any penalties eg for forcing Nj to work even though the contract would then later be determined invalid. But on the other hand, the members of Nj are just taking all of these extreme measures that, if the court doesn't side with them, they would have broken so many clauses in their contract and would surely be liable for the huge damages their immature actions have caused.
These penalties could seriously destroy their futures (I'm talking absolute financial ruin and an image that has been tainted beyond recovery). I get the appeal of just trying to forget about all this mess going on and wanting to focus on what makes them happy, which is making music and performing in front of fans, I just don't see in what world this short-term satisfaction is worth the risk and I geniunely don't get how the members of Nj are this confident that they will win.
It feels like all the accusations that Nj brought up are ultimately just based on onesided hurt feelings and now they're just doing whatever makes them feel good in the moment with no regards to the impact their decisions could have on them and the people around them.
@@chaaae-f1y they are not being advised on what is good for them. Everything that they are doing is for MHJ benefit and not theirs. This rushed name change and redebut is keep their name out their, get possible investors and make money to pay MHJ.
They are moving fast because they need money. Lawyers cost beaucoup dollars and they don’t have company backing to pay for things. They aren’t performing or touring. They have no more endorsements. And what they did do… most of that money goes to the company and staff. The money is going out faster than it’s coming in now.. they have to move to make more
They definitely won’t make as much money internationally.. and they’ll likely be treated WORSE in the long run. They had such potential in Korea. I fear the Korean public will NOT be kind if they choose another East Asian company.
I’m not sure they’ll make much money in the western market either. ESPECIALLY with those baby hairs and “street wear”
Yes I agree - they could face a lot of backlash from the US in particular, as has been seen in the past
@@lizbailey7748 as a black American it is annoying 😂 every time a musician wants to break free of an image they use our culture. On that point only i hope there’s some feedback from United States. I’m sick of the cosplay.
Disappointed in CNN for calling them one of the biggest selling Kpop acts. They are a rookie group who aren’t even one of the biggest selling women Kpop groups. But of course CNN mentioned BTS in the article. 😮
This has been going on for months but I still don't know what these girls are really complaining about that would merit "mistreatment"? Like, is it the Hanni ignoring issue? Not meeting the 2-week deadline? Not reinstating their old CEO? I'm so confused 😂
Xg are very unique… what I’m worried is that mini jeans and its fan starting with xg …all this time xg minds their business and do their own thing
I think the fact that all of NewJeans members are from rich families,is also giving them this much confidence and audacity, because an idol who is struggling to make ends meet and trying to save his/her family from poverty wouldn't dig up trouble in the name of love for MHJ
No because Hybe was generating hundreds of articles a day against NewJeans? What hundreds of articles? You mean the three or five in Korean media that were then translated and regurgitated by other companies and platforms across weeks? Because when I search I can only find new information on three or four sites, the rest are just older, rephrased or poorly informed articles, and often in support of the girls.
"humble as your beginning, prosperous may your ending be" ... I like it :)
NJZ is the stupidest option they could have chosen because it so blatantly is intended to confuse casual listeners and make them think that NewJeans is still NewJeans, they just have a new cute acronym. Like, Stray Kids haven't rebranded to SKZ! They haven't left JYP! But people call them SKZ all the time and they use SKZ in their content all the time (SKZ-TALKER, SKZ-CODE, SKZ-REPLAY, etc.) And as a STAY, when I read "SKZ," I switch between reading it as "Skizz" "Skijeu" and just plain "Stray Kids." It's so clear that the main reason behind picking NJZ as their "rebrand" is because they want people to look at it and still read it in their brains as "NewJeans."
These girls and MHJ just wont let you rest :(
Finally a voice of reason. Thank you for doing your research and knowing how MHJ is influencing the girls and their parents. These girls are going to ruin their lives even more than they already have. I cannot believe as a parent they actually think going with MHJ is the right path to take. As a parent of a daughter their age I’m completely dumbfounded at their choices for their daughters. I think I’m smarter than the average parent in terms of business at least and these girls are going to regret pretty much every decision they have made since trying to leave Ador.
This new account by the parents stinks of MHJ.
Since no journalist is writing anything positive about MHJ she is now using any method to get back at Ador/HYBE and get her message out.
I’m sorry but I really can’t say anything good about MHJ mostly because I have integrity.
It must be said that it is extremely disastrous if they do these things before the court takes place, legally they still have a contract with ADOR, and changing their name will also make them increase their violations, you have to know that this is a contract and this is business, everything is on paper, you can't just go to a press conference and say to terminate the contract so easily, if so then what does the contract mean in any field, the fact that they appeared on CNN is also a disastrous move for them, they said HYBE mistreated them without any concrete evidence and everything comes from their feelings when MHJ was fired, the fact that they spoke on CNN is no different than them slandering the entire KPOP music industry, not just HYBE, it will affect the development of many groups, I'm not talking about NJ but any group, don't let your ego ruin your entire career, as influential artists, you have to do it professionally
Another question... Complex is a U.S. based company (formerly a magazine, now online) and I'm sure the Hong Kong convention is a franchise of the company. But in that case can the U.S. based company sue/be sued? Can they sue for damaging the name if the Chinese convention gets sued by Ador? Can Ador sue them? It's getting infinitely more complicated
It depends on the law of both countries, but international lawsuits definitely do exist.
@@karakask5488 it depends really, like they could sue them but it’s harder to sue an overseas company bc they would need to come to korea for the court stuff; they haven’t broken any USA laws so they would be good if they stayed over here
malicious intent, will get them blacklisted from everywhere... No one will want to deal with them. No label in America, Korean, Japan will want to deal with it, it's a landmine... If it is found that the contract still holds water, it's easy, the label takes ownership of the music and distribution rights, and then royalties would be paid from that. If Ador decides they don't want the headache they could just bury the music, and it would be sent to the dungeon so no one would be paid except for Ador, since it was broadcasted, Ador could sue the media company broadcasting the music they have no rights to.
About, MHJ lowering the value of ADOR, wasn't MHJ original plan to make ADOR an empty shell so she can get someone to buy it? That would explain why NJs keep doing stuff that seem so bold and incriminating and why their lawyers are not telling them to stop but on the contrary, seem to be encouraging provocative behavior, like choosing a name so close to NJs. The lawyers ultimate goal is not to free NJs from their contract, is to get MHJ to take over ADOR. After all they are not entertainment lawyers, but corporate lawyers that specialize in take overs right? The more lawsuits ADOR files against NJs, the more it costs them and the more ADOR will become a burden for HYBE, since they have no other artist to make up for that cost. Maybe NJs have agreed on this plan in exchage for shares when ADOR is bought.
What’s annoying is I’m not entirely sure what the ISSUE is?? The girls are claiming mistreatment but is that grounds for all of these actions they’re taking? I’m not excusing mistreatment or anything but that just seems a little small in comparison to what could’ve been bigger issues such as being verbally, physically or even financially abused or harassed. Depending on what they mean by “mistreatment”, that’s not the same thing as the company doing things inhumane or illegal towards them which I doubt is the case. And I hate to say it but most working class citizens get mistreated in the job place. Again, I’m not excusing it nor do I think it’s right but as someone who works in the food industry, I can ensure it’s in EVERY job. Unless you work in a position of power, you’re most likely going to get mistreated in some way (depending on your definition of mistreatment) if you work at the bottom of the food chain if you get what I mean. But even then in NJZs case, they actually were not at the bottom of the food chain as far as I’m aware. They were living lavish. Making millions of dollars out the gate. etc. I don’t know why they think them in particular getting “mistreated” somehow makes them special. And understand, I’m not trying to put them down. If they in fact have been mistreated to the point where they needed to leave the company then they absolutely should say and do something about it. The PROBLEM is, they didn’t start claiming mistreatment/etc until after Hybe/Ador started filing lawsuits and injunctions towards them once they decided to not participate in any activities with them after MHJ was fired. In other words, they never would’ve spoke up on this alleged mistreatment if the company kept MHJ. If you were getting mistreated THAT badly you would’ve said or did something despite whatever’s going on with MHJ. As far as I’m concerned whatever MHJs situation is, is separate from what NJZ is saying their issue with Hybe/Ador is which they ironically didn’t say anything about it until MHJs drama started.
Hopefully I made sense.
I respect you so much. watching your videos feel like chatting with a close friend. I always enjoy your videos.
Also… what’s with the “baby hairs”? Can we not “rebrand” directly into cultural appropriation? For once? In this climate?
@@lboogi I don't think baby hair is cultural appropriation and I am black myself
Fyi I am not a NJZ stans, and their rebrand is just ew
@ what does you being “Black” have to do with anything? If it’s not cultural appropriation then what is it? What other culture does it come from? If it’s not appropriating specifically Black American culture then why mix the “baby hairs” with the tims and BAPE fashions? They were already prancing around like 90s TLC. So what’s different about the costume now that doesn’t make it cultural appropriation? And to be clear I’m actually a Black person, from America, old enough to remember TLC the first time around, and old enough to be able to recognize and call out cultural appropriation when I see it in front of my face.
@lboogi idk what you are talking about cause I have seen other cultures with baby hair being styled and has nothing to do with culture appropriation
@ what culture does it come from? Where does it originate from?
These girls are talented, but not worth all this. There will be more talented “ kids” that will come along who will be the thankful for opportunities. Now, they have public sympathy … which is dwindling because these girls are very arrogant. They haven’t figured out that these companies will mess them up for life… listening to the wrong people.
I mean if ADOR gets the money that would be their best bet, because even if (not a possibility though) the members come back to ador ... they will never earn as much as they used to after one year of slandering their on brand
Honestly every move they have made recently I get the feeling that they are trying anything and everything to make Ador be the one to instigate a case against them for breaking the contract. Instead Ador and Hybe are being incredibly patient with them and bending over backwards trying to bring them back into the fold, which in a court case you would think makes them look more positive to the court than what the girls and MHJ are doing.
Great vid as always! If Minijeans going with China backing "back stabbing" aren't most of their parents Korean and live in Korea? Will they be considered pariah or ostracized? With the international market, the U.S. is a big part of that. Not sure about the accuracy, but been stated U.S. is putting a band on what they consider Chinese military companies, ex.
Kakoa is supposedly listed and they are a double % investor in SM, SM might be listed too.... If true, Minijeans could be in more trouble if they are going with a Chinese agency that gets on that list & plan to focus internationally!
Again, all speculation!
I saw Korea is too. Tencent is blacklisted. That is SM.
Members of New Jeans & their Parents are trying to emotional extort Bunnies.
There's just too much greed from the 5 individuals and their parents
This is just speculation but….Bonnie Chan woo is ceo of complex con Hong Kong . She is part of sv vision which is a branding and entertainment company. They might be willing to back njz and MHJ . They also have offices in US so probably makes it easier for Ador to go after them legally.
For AMA, my question would be what public opinion is like in Korea about this situation from the standpoint of a foreigner who lives there
Another great post. Am I the only one who thinks this “convention” appearance is a test run, an audition if you will, for the people/corporations that are the silent “backers”? I believe that their last appearance internationally was cancelled due to low ticket sales.
Also doesn’t China ban Korean music content? I remember Jackson Wang having to make public statements that he is Chinese.
Anyway thanks for the update. Also your void kitty is adorable 🙂
Bingo!
You did a great work, thank you
NJ want Adore to file a law suite against them and Adore is not taking the bait. That’s why NJ are doing all these ridiculous things to taunt them. Something big is coming that’s why they have been doing press conferences. Also the press conference was so scripted. Their legal team probably advised them that Adore cannot sue them for penalties.
I'm still waiting for all the Hybe articles to surface since I haven't seen any yet.
I'm sorry, but they don't have a chance in western industry, and I don't mean it in a mean way. It's just that industry first-likes more something unique and individual, and second is heavy on playlisting, radio, sponsor adds, and payola, which MHJ will not give them. They will clash with hard reality when their new music does not accomplish anything. So probably the only reality for them would be Chinese industry, but as I read a little ab how they treat idols, celebs, etc they should actually avoid it the most. As much as their behavior is frustrating, I assume no one would like to read that in the future they were treated like real slaves.
Thanks so much for the update and analysis-great job! For the AMA, can you talk just a little about how you see K-pop developing in the next 5-10 years? (And a very minor little note: at 50:43 it was bit hard to understand what you were were saying during the laugh, and at 56:10 the whispered "lawyers" was a bit too quiet both times; maybe a louder whisper like at 57:21 or even a bit louder-maybe a "stage whisper"-would be nice for whispers moving forward.)
(49:44 as well has a very soft whisper) 😊
One more thing - Complex Con is not actually Chinese, it's an American event, that only now has a first edition in Hongkong. But most likely they organise it with cooperation with some Chinese company.
Also I think HYBE very much capable of suing internationally because author rights are mostly international - that's why UA-cam or Sony can execute those laws worldwide. The case with China is that... plagiarism is not really illegal so I assume using someone's name is neither. But boy if they really want to be under Chinese company, they'll only see now what mistreatment is.
Also I'm sure someone promised to pay them off but let's be honest this will never happen because those girlies have barely any value anymore and no Chinese company has a reach as wide as HYBE does. They'll be tricked and I can't wait for that moment
I said this in another comment section but its still true, njs and tokkis, in my opinion, have never experienced having someone who truly loves and cares about you. Because this is isn’t love, when you love someone you don’t push them to ruin everything they worked for. Mhj, njs parents and tokkis literally do not care about those girls. Mhj & the parents have clearly put money above njs and tokkis think that they are being good fans by cheering and clapping while njs burn down their careers and reputations. And its just sad man because njs actually could have had people around them with their best interest, hell even ador advised njs to have separate legal counsel from mhj in the beginning of this mess, but njs has chosen to push away seemingly anyone who doesn’t sack ride mhj🙄🤦🏽♀️ this is gonna be something that they’ll only really understand later after someone finally tells them the actual truth and maybe after therapy sessions, this is going to be a lot for njs to handle
mhj fired from sm, n fired from hybe. Now I can literally see why she got fired all the time...
From what I understand, since New Jeans unilaterally terminated their contract (which was, as we now know, a valid measure available to them under the original terms of the contract), their debut under a new name fits into their legal narrative that we left the group for breach of trust and are now operating accordingly. According to some Korean legal experts, their initial press conference announcing the termination was a way of avoiding being blocked from doing business rather than going through an injunction, which would have definitely forced them to stop everything, which explains why they can technically continue to work under a new name and with a new team. We still have to see if the judge agrees with NJ's argument but I think a different issue is whether the judge will see this as an individual case and agree with New Jeans or if this sets a bad precedent for the integrity of contractual law. Any employee/freelancer/contractee should have the means to be able to leave a toxic work situation BUT is the corportation entitled to any damages if the contract isn't respected and/or is it also the employee or contractor's duty to try and resolve the issue in a reasonable manner? Also, the core legal argument from Hybe is that MHJ tried to poach NJ which is what accelerated whatever issues NJ brought forward and not the other way around. So although Hybe's first legal complaint failed, the judge did highlight that MHJ was in fact at least thinking of poaching both ADOR and NJ. March can't come fast enough tbh.
Do we actually know the terms of the contract, I must have missed that. Did MHJ have the power as CEO of Ador to actually change contract terms from their original contracts with presumably either Hybe or Source Music from their trainee days?
bunnies keep mentioning this phrase in the contract but I still have yet to see the full contract, from start to finish, from what I understand this phrase is in nearly every contract, it’s not special to newjeans, which is why i want to see the whole contract bc if they could find this phrase, then they should have the rest of it
The chances of you seeing their individual contracts are probably not very likely. None of our business. You can ask for the contract to be terminated but you would need to state your specific reasons and be prepared to go to court to have it cancelled. Same as any other legal contract otherwise you can state anything without any evidence and walk away which I can’t see any legal system tolerating.
I think your best comment in this hour was “you are not even playing with fire, you are playing with lava”. That sums up this whole situation perfectly! Thank you for sharing your opinion, I agree on everything and can’t wait for the Dispatch bomb and the court hearings early March and April anymore. ❤
thank you so much for your breakdown. I also want to ask how's the response from the local citizens with them rebranding?
Also is the performance scheduled for before Hanni’s visa expiration?
my biggest worry is IF they got Chinese investors,.. i am worried what MHJ promised the investors dealing with NJZ. Getting the idea of dodgy and dirty people MHJ deals with, those girls aren't safe... what do they want from the girls? Because, i am doubtful it's their just the girls music and dancing they want, if these investors are forking out A LOT of money to go up against Ador/Hybe, they will be asking for a lot more... just sayin'.
Didn't Mama R herself talk about using the "body lobby"?
58:37 could it be possible that NJZ could be relying on the lawyers connection to the Ethics committee? ( not sure if that’s the right committee name)
Underated channel
I’ve been waiting for this video 😂
How much do y'all want to bet the girls don't show up to court?
Your videos are a must watch
Thank you very much, this has been very informative. Thank you for all your content.
I cant believe we get more tea
Did you not know that the Mexican girl group that MHJ stole from the beginning...just rebranded a while back as.....ready?.....NJS!!! ....When I saw that I giggled bc figured they're getting back at UsedJeans.....BUT now this happens with UsedJeans (NJZ)...look familiar?....I believe MHJ has never had an original idea in her life....its all copies from others!!!
Now also...tell me how UsedJeans are gonna perform in China with only 1 song?....they can't sing any of their old ones...those belong to the company....?!?
First, the lack of creativity of it all, the copy and paste of 2 other K. Pop girl groups with this new look are so obvious. But the copy and paste of the 90 style is their thing.There's no originally with them from the beginning. But have y'all heard of the old saying (giving someone enough rope. They will hang themselves), and I think that's what adore and hybe is doing. With these spoil/ entitled brats, and it's going to bite them in the butt. their lack of self-preservation is astonishing, but you know what (they have touched. The stove to know that it Burns). The ignorance of thinking they can get away with it. And not impact the whole K-Pop/Music community business. lol . They are not even on the level of BTS. As I keep on saying, if poor Kesha couldn't get out of her contract, not lit a couple of years ago now , who are y'all?
Before I even watch the video, I want to say that Jeans, the Mexican girl group, had a rebrand in 2016 and they're called JNS now. Doesn't that sound familiar 🤔
34:01 to me it screams "we need to make money quickly bc we couldn't sign with a lot/any brands for ads"
I do wonder how judges would react to this move. I don't take judges for ppl who appreciate it when their authority is overlooked
I believe ADOR said that minheejeans should've at least waited for the court decision before doing this.
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At this point, Hybe should take down MHJ for years ….. for starting all this nonsense. BTS will be back in a few months….who will care about these Temu jeans girls. And sue the parents as well…. I bet their signature is somewhere on the contract especially if some were underage..
MHJ was trying to overtake HYBR from before new jeans existed, basically almost from the moment she got hired. That means this was planned and most likely she never really left SM. It's also obvious someone powerful is pulling strings, because for example the CNN guy who interviewed them is a political commentator and awarded journalist that never EVER covered any entertainment subject. So most likely need making a favor to some politician or to someone who is able to give him access to the one.
In my personal opinion the goal now is to damage the whole k-pop industry, so that investors would be careful with investigation into small and independent labels, and by proxy -in HYBE. It's also a great excuse to bring back sl*ve contracts.
Please do done research on potential kakao involvement, especially the stock issue.
PS. Lawyers obviously work for whoever is backing MHJ and head an interest in destroying HYBE - therefore they work with their goal with mind
As someone of a similar age to NJs parents', I would have put my message in the comment section. I wouldn't know how to put words in the picture part unless I took a picture of it, and that wouldn't look serious enough. Great analysis as always!
But all the bunnies online are not looking at things realistically and are just encouraging everything (like they have been since the beginning), you would think that if it they are such huge fans, they would do more research first (I am talking about bunnies that are closer to or are adults, not the younger fans, because that would make sense).
Is audio cutting for anyone else?
@@kelittries for me too
I got out of the live and restarted UA-cam and got back into the live and the sound worked fine.
Yeah, since youtube updated the sound can be wonky. You have to close the app and reopen (at least I do)
They will end up in dungeon 😭😔
8:23 Yup! Glad you caught that!
it just came to my mind what if MHJ win the lawsuit about the shareholder contract and hybe have to assigned her to be the CEO again? these girls are gonna get back to ADOR and they wont have to pay the fine. can this happen?
Those are not the same things. The shareholders agreement contract stipulates that MHJ should get 13x her share value provided that she does not breach the contract. Hybe is claiming she breached it by leaking it to the press. It was recently revealed that the shareholders agreement also stipulates that she doesn't cause any damage to ADOR or the other Hybe subsidiaries. I think this is why she and the NJ camp have not addressed the tampering allegations and why some lawyers believe the Belift and Source Music cases will affect the outcome of the shareholders agreement case. If she wins the shareholders agreement case, she gets the 13x valuation. If she doesn't win, she gets the normal value of her shares.
The CEO position is tied to being a director. Apparently, you can't be a CEO in Korea if you are not on the board of directors. The board of directors (of ADOR) were the ones who removed her from the CEO position and she lost the second injunction because of this.
Guys are minhijins puppets, they're arrogant group they are thinking they're above others they think they are d new BTS as their mhjin so calls them, BTS has their own legal advisers aside fr hybes legal advisers but d boys r still humble and is not bypassing hybes policy they build hybe and within it but I'll never see them being proud and boastful.. new jeans are stressful group they have broken so many policies and rules fr adore and hybe they're not thinking so naive at most, w few awards they're thinking they're untouchable and better than d rest
Omg this group I don't like em.
I want to name them "Breech of Contract" BoC! their fandom can be Paralegals. BoC and the PLs coming at you from an international legal grey area, singing their new single "Sugar Daddy paid the Penalty" Sorry. I'm done with the audacity. I hope this doesn't ruin the girls' lives, but if they never work as idols again I wont lose sleep.
Yes, the second channel could be cat content.
Njs idiocracy gives me migraine
Its insanely crazy to me how mhj originally always wanted to take OUT newjeans. AND EITHER WAY she is unfortunately succeeding in it while making ADOR/HYBE the biggest villains biggest bad guys of this whole drama. WHILE ALSO DRAGGING OTHER IDOLS like lsfm illit bts and etc.
I think that at the end of the day, she IS INDEED GONNA SUCCEED TO TAKE new jeans out of that company and you're right there's someone who is BACKING THEM UP BIG TIME AND IT IS AN INTERNATIONAL ENTITY (more likely chinese)
The big question is will NJ be worth anything after all this is over?
@CeciJosa I mean in all honesty and from what I'm seeing on twt, ig and even some yt reactors...like when they announced they're njz now, ppl/their fans were like 'yes let's go' 'so proud of our girls' 'njz are back' and what not. Forgetting that they're supporting the girls who are ass licking oop I mean supporting a woman who is clearly an SA enabler (mind u she tried to burry the segxual ass ault case of one of her employees), a p3d0 and horrible person who called them f a t p i g s while she was their ceo. So i dont get the support.