Tier Point Runs - A Slightly More Advanced Guide
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- I've talked a few times about Tier Point runs on the channel and quite a few people have taken up this fantastic hobby as a result of those videos. Which is fantastic, but is also a little terrifying as I feel a sense of responsibility towards anyone attempting this sort of trip based on my advice!
There are a number of slightly more advanced aspect of this sort of trip which I have alluded to in the past, but have never talked about in detail. Which I will fix in this video!
If you are contemplating a run, its well worth your time to understand these 6 concepts!
Flyertalk Back 2 Back thread: www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...
Head for Points CIV - www.headforpoints.com/2014/06...
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⏰ Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1.43 - HBO (including the last leg challenge)
4:05 - B2B
9:25 - SVT (Stopovers and Transfers)
10:23 - MPM
14:03 - CIV
16:32 - ORC
18:40 - Wrapping Up
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Thanks again. I've done a few back2backs, once in Stockholm and now, more recently, twice at the awful Frankfurt airport. BA is always remote stand in the latter. The good thing is that you just join the CONNECTING FLIGHTS route; no need to go through immigration. The bad news is that on my first of those recently, I misread the gate on the screen and spent 10 minutes going God knows where. Glad I checked at the next screen.
Then the security line composed both the City and LHR flights and had one casual, useless person. I stood for 40 minutes as the time of my flight drew ever closer. The good news was that so many people on the flight were behind me that the crew would have had to delay the departure.
Given all the interesting points you make, I'd avoid certain airports for B2B, especially Frankfurt and the awful Charles de Gaulle.
Anything more than the simplest B2B just feels nerveshredding!! Standing in that queue must of got your pulse rate right up
And I can say hand on heart that I watched the video from start to finish 😅👍🏻
I'd have expected nothing less from you!
It was worth watching for the Carrion gag alone !
Thanks for paying attention!
That's why it's so easy to do runs here in the US, due to the domestic distances and/or number of segments you can formulate, and airports (both large and small) are all easy to connect through within a domestic itinerary.
- Red
I'm often asked how to build a run in Asia but you really can't as no airline has a domestic network like American's... And Alaska a little bit now too...
That's a great point!
Great video as always. Thanks to your previous tier point videos, I have booked our first run for December this year which will secure silver status for 2 years!
That's exciting? Where you off to? Christmas in Vegas?
@@MattsPlanet Anaheim to experience Disneyland. Routing of DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-PHL-JFK-LHR-DUB not the most efficient but it gets us to silver and that’s all we wanted from a first attempt.
Brilliant as ever, thank you!
You are very welcome!
Love your style of presentation and your sense of humour. I have become so much better informed on the whole travel experience from watching the videos (repeatedly, you will be happy to read). Thanks
You are very welcome - glad they were helpful!
Wow. That was a most useful video. I’ll rewatch next year when I will need a tier point run. Thanks.
Ditto!
Great advice Matt👍👍
Thanks
I've only recently found your channel and your tips are very useful. Subscribed. Thanks and keep up the good work! And yes, I watched the whole video.
Thanks!
Here til the end! Really need to get on with planning a TP run for later this year.
Good job! Have fun planning
Another great video. Nicely done explaining MPM. Like you, I've not had many Gold greetings probably because a similarly low CIV.
I'm inclined to do the data protection request to find out... Whether I can stretch that into a full video is the question!
Super video Matt, I have INV booked as a B2B in December. I’m sure it will be fine 😬😬
Didn't research that one in particular but I believe it falls into the "small" category with a big additional slice of "friendly and helpful!"
Let’s just hope it’s not snowing, no this is Scotland 🏴. I do believe they know how to deal with snow, it’s only LHR and LGW 🤷🏼♂️😂
A great video!
Thanks Mike
Great video!! Greater hat!
This video needed some gimmick!
Love your videos Matt. Still quite confused by the whole minefield that is this airline rewards thing but trying to learn!
I made a mistake last year with BA. Only needed 30 tier points for silver and never just booked a flight to London or something. So ended up bronze. Wasn’t trying to get status but found myself there.
BA awarded me tier points and avois for a reward flight in business to SFO. And I’d already done return to LV that year.
Ouch... Annoying but an example of where BA's appalling IT works in someone's favour... Here's to status in 2023 then!
Watched all of it😇. As always interesting Matt. Living in South Africa there no real opportunities for tier point runs, nowhere decent to re position to🤣. Side comment, achieved Star Alliance Gold with SAA. Now regularly get the pursers greeting when I fly Ethiopian, not so much SAA. Your explanation of my value to SAA as yours to BA makes sense.👍🇿🇦
Cheers Peet. A Matt's Planet Ultra for sure, if you get the reference... Flying a couple of times this week with *A so we'll see if my Aegean gold gets noticed...
Hi Matt, great video as always. I was one of those that did the Hawaii run last year and started it 2 days after my BAEC year!! so got nearly 2 years in gold for just over £1200. I'm thinking my CIV might be in the low teens 🙂, even being Gold
Thanks Peter - never done a Honolulu and I'm not excited about that last leg on from the West Coast - I'm ready for bed when I get that far so another leg isn't appealing! That was from BUD?
Another great video. My Gold story’s quite the opposite to yours - I do get the awkward Gold greeting most of the time but I have been refused through the First Wing a time or two!
That's not good! Shouldn't be refused the F wing... Travelling with kids perhaps, so more than the allowed number of guests?
As ex-crew, it was as awkward to watch the CSM deliver the Gold greeting as it was to watch the Gold Card holder receive it lol
Another great video, thank you!
I need 180 tier points to get to Silver and wondered if you had any recommended tier point run trips. I can’t do a BA Holiday at the moment but I did think about a Club Europe return to Athens/Sofia etc followed by either a UK domestic one way Club fare or a return Economy Plus domestic fare which generates 20 tier points. Do you have any smart recommendations? I’m more than happy to do a more adventurous Euro routing and to stay over for a night or two!
Sofia is always the first place to look - not in Summer peak season but £250 for 160 TPs is often doable... A PE run somewhere like Dubai would get 180 but would be a bit more expensive....
Matt great information channel. Quick question….am i right in saying that although i have just earned my BA silver, in Mar, i will lose it in Nov coz that is the date i originally signed up to the Executive club way back…..I do have other flights next week that would edge me to Gold, but not enough points.
Hi Jim. When you achieve status, it last for the year you're in and the entire next one. So you'll be silver until Nov 24. Which is why its best to get the points as early in the year as possible, so the status lasts as long as possible. And why the 2 month grace period is so important. So if you got 600 TPs between 9/11/24 and 31/12/24 you'll still be silver when you travel (as you're in the grace period at the end of the year) and you'll then renew your silver for 2 more years. Cheers!
I enjoy more than half of each video I watch. As soon as you (and any other UK or Australian person) say brekkie instead of breakfast, I close the video. I am sure it's just a me thing, but it irritates me horribly. Except for that, I enjoy your outlook and lack of pretention. Always been surprised you don't have a larger following. Best wishes.
Thanks David... I have an Aussie passport so the occasional phrase creeps in! Thanks for watching what you do!
Really enjoy the videos Matt. Can’t fault your knowledge of tier points and tier point runs, but can fault your acronym knowledge. It’s only an acronym when you can say the word. NASA,RADAR,IMAX and your last one, ORC for example. Otherwise it’s an initialism. Keep up the good work 😘
Cheers Gareth - that's a subtlety I hadn't picked up on and it will annoy me now! Thanks!!! But seriously, glad you enjoyed the video... I guess you can say MPM as a word... An an ugly word... Initialism is an ugly word for the thumbnail though!
Points year ends in November, will have just under 800 points by Mid-May, any help in creating a 700 point run would be great, live just outside of London.
Keep an eye on the tier point run thread on flyertalk is the best advice.
Matt at this rate I believe you are the only man to help! Being a BA silver holder can I walk into an American Airlines lounge (one world status) do I need to convert BA to one world?
BA status should work fine. As long as the BA exec club number is attached to the booking it should show on the boarding pass that's issued - it'll convert to OneWorld Sapphire. Present that at the lounge and you should be good.
Earned silver last year midway through a trip. Had a layover in ORD. Went to the lounge and showed the attendant my newly-earned silver status in the BA app. She confirmed it was Sapphire and let me in, even though my boarding pass hadnt reflected the new status.
I am honestly confused by all of this. So what I wonder is, are tier points only designated to certain flights and routes, or do you earn tier points on all flights? If they are only earned by certain routes, how do you know which ones? I bet you have explained this somewhere along the line. Well anyroad I enjoy your videos even if I am lost most of the time, it is just fun to watch you.
Thanks Mikie. A very early video which is a guide to the BA exec club explains tier points a bit... Basically ever one world flight earns them, from 5 to 210 depending on class and distance. Business class are the ones to think about and its basically 40 for a business class flight
Do you book all the sectors in one booking or as totally separate flights?
They have to go through as one booking - you're exploiting opportunities that sit within the t's and c's of a specific return fare
Excellent video. The question I now have is - assuming I have a claim for ORC, how do I go about making that with BA?
Ring them up as a first step and follow up with an email explaining the details... Should be relatively routine for them to action these days... Relatively!
@@MattsPlanet Superb, thank you. One follow-up -- have you had any trouble with ITA Matrix of late? Powertools dont seem to be working for me. I know the BA limitations of it must be all-BA flight numbers, but it wasnt working for Iberia either.
Do these runs have to be done in Business class? Thanks as ever for the video.
Hi Mr H. I'd say yes - that's where the tier points are.... Can do it in economy for the fun of it but the tier point haul would be paltry.
Awaiting the next video as I lose my silver and want to do a points run to renew it , I am not fussed for gold silver does me 🎉😊
Silver is a pretty good level to shoot for!
Interestingly, I complained to ba about several long standing issues re cancelled flights without getting the EU compensation, and now I never get offered to purchase an upgrade, yet my 2 offspring get offers on their flights everytime. Not that ba club Europe with same seat as et, no recline and small cream tea is anything to pay £130 quid extra per flight, including sitting interminably, whilst everyone else is slow to get on board. When will they realise, get the back seats on first, and then everyone else can get on quicker as not waiting for people to shuffle their stuff into overhead bins. I don't know! In the last 12 flights I've taken with them since July 22, only 2 flights have left on time. Today's didn't have any food as " the handheld machine wasn't working for speed bird cafe" so no lunch / beverages at all. As if there's only 1 machine per flight! Looking for a new airline now. Thinking Turkish airline as they have consistently great food and serve hundreds of destinations
It feels like BA is getting better, based on a non-scientific absorption of reports on various forums (fora???). Then I hear a report like yours which is scientific (as you report on all your 12 experiences, not just the ones you want to talk about) and its got a decent sample size, and I think I may have been quick to give BA the benefit of the doubt...
@@MattsPlanet plural of forums can be either or either, whichever you prefer
i think your complaint in the past put you in the doghouse!
In the corporate world, we call them "trouble makers"
It would be fascinating to know if that were the case! Some might "promote" people like that to make up for bad experiences...
nope, gonna stick arrrrooouuunnnddd
Excellent!
I bet the more subscribers the higher the CIV. :-)
I think the opposite is more likely!
@@MattsPlanet Top of the list was interesting. Who gets the most points!
LAS Vegas not LOSS Vegas even if thats the likely outcome. Thank you, 😆
Ha ha!
Wow. That was a most useful video. I’ll rewatch next year when I will need a tier point run. Thanks.
Thanks... Or when you're next having trouble sleeping?