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key word missing allegedly. Britney Higgins? anyone anyone nope we gunna let her hang from the same noose they are using on ROberts SMith good work you pack of putrid fkrs
I've always found whistleblower laws off. Like, it seems nice that people who are witnesses to bad activity have a safety net, but how motivated would a government be to protect someone snitching on them in the first place?
I guess it comes down to who and what you're exposing. Any institution would be very motivated to protect someone snitching on a middle manager embezzling funds, or on a practice that is hampering efficiency. But if you call out some sort of foundational rot, it's going to be a rocky road.
they’re not. take Snowden. it seems like it’s wild by him though, i mean war crimes are pretty “intense” and “in your face” based on what hes said in his videos (especially the one on that guy who hosts that podcast)
meanwhile western backed false flags to smear it's geopolitical rivals have become downright loonytoons. Remember Bucha?... were all the locals initially said the Russians had been gone for 2 days, and the bodies were all military aged men with Russian rations and camo trousers... This after Azov said they would shoot any 'collaborator' in recaptured towns, even accepting russian aid counts as collaboration to them btw. They will make another lovely boil of a former proxy for NATO just like the Taliban and ISIS did.
It's not hard to see why the Yanks are now circumspect, at least publiclly, on corroberation with the SAS. The Mia Lia massicare cast a long shadow... I will fore ever know the name Hugh Thompson and the good he did that day.
Still shocks me that some people consider exposing war criminals to be anti-patriotic and anti-military What could be more patriotic and pro-military than holding your troops to account and ensuring your military isn’t known as a bunch of murderers.
We were very clearly trained about who we could and couldn't kill in a war. So fuck Ben Roberts-Smith, the fucking coward. Ex Infantry and if I'd seen anything like what he did, I'd have leaked to the press too.
@@danieldelaney1377 tell me the strategic advantage of kicking an unarmed and handcuffed civilian off a cliff? There’s a tremendous difference between collateral damage and going out of your way to inflict misery upon the people you’re supposed to be saving.
Look, the job of a reporter is to say what the government wants you to hear. It's very important that those who disobey be made an example of or they might get it in their heads that their job is to tell the truth, and then where would we be?
@@discordlexia2429 I know your being purposely cynical here but journalists are a tool for the general public. They are there to make sure we are all aware of what our country is doing. They are the ones who should be dragging the dirty back room deals into the lime light; from criminals to governments. The only reason we get the sensationalist takes recently is because we've trained them to do so. They get more views and money from celebrity coverage and 'patriotic' swill than anything real and impactful; it's on us to change that and to ensure that those who do their jobs like McBride don't get punished for it.
Well, in comparison to 99% of Twitter and TikTok users, she is a child and cannot 'lash out' against people without immediate repercussions from her parents or getting into trouble. For the same reason, no adult would accept it if they are being forcefed food they do not like. Kids however, have no choice and that's why they cry so much if they have parents that don't care.
As a German, I feel uniquely placed to comment on the moral arguments for war crimes and socks with sandles. One is the product of a toxic mix of traditionalism and the erosion of societies ability to hold others accountable for their views and the other is war crimes.
the how part is pretty simple usually, really if your aim is to commit a war crime the hard part is getting your ass into a warzone as someone that someone else says is a soldier which is a requirement - by that point you'll be in possession of a gun usually too so really makes the committing part of it rather an uncomplicated affair. really the complicated part why you need training is that you wouldn't commit them.
@PodpolkovnikGeorgeCostanza so? jordie was joking too. I'm just providing the answer to the "how" just like what internet was made for, you wouldn't believe how many people think they're badasses committing warcrimes when they're merely involved in regular police brutality. edit: seriously though the distinction is kinda important because the sas/australia/coalition is responsible as a whole for the warcrimes of their soldiers so actually many people should be prosecuted and go to prison for this, this is mainly kind of what makes it different from a mere civilian murder spree.
why? because they are TRAINED to, that's why. as an Honored member of the Glorious Yaktish ARMY l was wounded and captured by a Sergeants in Training squad, didn't help l popped up in the middle of their formation and shot at two of theirs. l was wounded in the right knee and could not walk, the R.S.M. instructor said "shoot the prisoner", nobody hesitated or said a word, one lined up, AND SHOT ME!!! so yeah, Australian soldiers are TRAINED to kill the (wounded) unarmed prisoners.
The fact is.....your leaders placed you in a situation that you should not have been in. Your top leaders and the people who trained you need to be in the same goal as you.
American here. Even if you aren't Australian, this is an important story to share. In a post-9/11 world, the government (and in particular in the US, the ABC organizations) are constantly vying for greater authority and reach, to the point of covering up atrocities. Any time a whistleblower program in the western world fails, it endangers us all, because despite being different countries, there is undeniable influence between us. The FDA is slowly (very, very, VERY slowly) adopting the standards of the EU for food safety, marijuana legalization, and of course, privacy laws, are constantly influenced by the policies of our peers. The press should be held accountable, since the press is responsible for holding government accountable (in principle). Granted, our press is beyond fucked in the US (both sides, etc.) but that doesn't mean we shouldn't shame news organizations when they exhibit clear motive to protect the powers that be, rather than hold them accountable. Also, maybe humans shouldnt be committing war crimes against other humans, and if someone points that out, we shouldnt punish them with life in prison? Justice for McBride is justice for us all. Anyone outside of Australia should spread this around as far and wide as it will go until the Australian government and ABC (not to be confused with the orgs i mentioned above) are shamed into doing their jobs properly. Someone, somewhere should feel ashamed for what McBride has gone through, and until he is vindicated, it is the public's duty to make sure that the "someone" out there feels the heat (non-violent heat, though, you psychos). Much love from the US. We love you aussie cvnts. You are the deep south to our deep south, the florida to our florida, and the de facto containment center for all of those satanic creatures you call "animals". Keep up the great work Mr. Shanks. Sorry for the light novel. I haven't eaten much today. Peace!
@diamondgamer7646 couldn't help myself. I thought it was gonna be a quickie but the words wouldn't stop once I got started. I just fear what happens when the media (and by extension, the government) aren't held accountable, and policies made to protect citizens are ignored. Much love!
What a racist, misogynistic, Un-Australian, communist, right wing, intolerant, anti-Alphabet, sexist, politically incorrect headline Jordies, lift your game.
One of my biggest complaints of these war crime apologists is when they say "It'S nOnE oF oUr BuSiNeSs WhAt ThEy Do OvEr ThErE!" I say well it is when my tax money goes to their wages.
@@tedparkinson2033 I mean not that Australia has the same set of rules by not having a constitution like the USA, but that being said I'd argue that USA civilians has even less oversight of their military than in Australia.
Yeah, acting like a comic book villain in a country that will certainly strike back, but lacks the military strength to do so by attacking military targets, is definitely none of our business. There's absolutely no way this will come back to haunt us.
"truth" based upon one emotionally invested eye witnessed account now if a squad mate is backing these claims id be more interested in the people that are responsible for not charging the person in question with War Crimes and why isnt the rest of his Squad/Platoon being Persecuted to? the guy doesnt go out into the Afghan wilds alone hunting Insurgents/Taliban but yeh lets act irrationally and be like the Liberal National Govt.
@@fireskycam9889 Truth is only as the evidence that backs it otherwise it is an old wives tale of revenge :) if its actually convicted warcrimes then String the big goose up with his mates if its some shitter of a Taliban who is playing you which is more likely the fkn case. Have i ever mentioned HOW RIDICULOUS IT IS OF AN IDEA FOR SOLDIERS IN COUNTRY IN COMBAT REGIONS TO NOT KILL THE EYE WITNESS IF THEY ARE COMMITTING A WARCRIME DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE RANK FKN IDIOCY OF THIS CLAIM EITHER THE THE FKN GOAT JOCKEY LYING OUT HIS ARSE OR IS THE LUCKIEST WARCRIMES EYEWITNESS THAT HAS EVER FKN LIVED! Do you grasp this Logic you dont kill someone and leave a witness it doesnt happen especially if he was there..........
If you know anyone who works at the ABC, you'll know how utterly demoralised they are. Jordan is right to go after them, no question, but the organisation is on its last legs, having suffered wave after wave of cuts and attacks. There's hardly anything left of it to salvage these days and its a national shame.
Red cross doesn't like your approach, dude. Don't you know , that committing war crimes in games brings you one step closer to doing those IRL ? They already destroyed medikits, now they're going after FUN.
My roommate/good friend is a Veteran who served in Afghanistan. According to her, this behaviour is common and rife. Many soldiers were aware of both his & many others committing war crimes that were ignored and “justified”. If reported, it wasn’t recorded. This is not a rare case.
A lot more immoral and illegal behaviour occurs in Afghanistan and many other war zones, it’s just Ben Roberts Smith is the most transgressive and notorious example and was thus focused on
@@tripledigit4835 Soldiers are soldiers we praise them for defending their mates and attacking machine gun nests yet are surprised when they stop differentiating between the civillians attacking them and hiding in villages and those that didn't who look exatcly the same and are hiding in the same village. Also the federal government has no choice but to pursue leakers, David's 'leaks' did nothing to serve his case and untold damage to the reputation of Australia and will likely cost lives if/when (god forbid) we are in any future conflicts. I understand his heart was in the right place and I would hate to see him go to jail but our military has it's own internal arbitration for a reason.
It'll be very interesting to see how far up the chain the prosecutions go in regards to the alleged war crimes in Afghanistan. While they're most likely conducted by a soldier on the front line, I can only wonder how far up the chain of command knew about possible crimes but may not have reported them. If the alleged offenders are found guilty then they must investigate how far up the chain of command knew about it. All involved must be held to account.
The most alarming thing that I learned about the war in Afghanistan was that the CIA was running death squads there, which included sending special forces out to conduct assassinations of civilians from groups that were deemed a threat. This included the murder of whole families including children. What alarms me in particular about this is that they were likely using troops like the SAS to carry this out, and as a result tacitly endorsing the murder of non-combatants.
@@jamesrowlands8971 If that was done by our SAS (Which I highly doubt) would mean that our highest command was complicit to war crimes. This I massively doubt.
@@fireskycam9889 before I have that specific conversation with you, are you aware that the first whistleblower against our war crimes in Afghanistan was car bombed?
Youknow, I might have some more of my own. These usually stirr some stuff. I don't like most of the chocolate, I hate puppies and I don't really like cats either. Oh and I don't like Christmas in itself. It's alright, but Christmasmovies or.. music from Mariah Carey and bright lights..no. I do not like lasagna, I do not like GOT, I don't like cars or the French language, I don't like hamburgers, I don't like chickenwings. I don't like Coca Cola, I don't like Pepsi, I don't like football and I don't like hockey or watching any sports. I don't like popular videogames (at least most of them) and I don't like BBQ's and I don't like sneakers or "Jordans" or any expensive brand of clothing or shoes. I don't like getting manicures, I don't like alcoholic drinks or going out clubbing and I don't like festivals or concerts. And I'll make it worse. I think Umbridge (apart from her racist views and obvious misguided torture of students) had a point when she criticized Hogwarts. Not to mention, Hagrid has his heart in the right place, but without an assistant, that is not enough to be a good teacher. Especially given his lifestyle and lack of risk-assessment. If you look at it from that point of view, she was better than Hagrid. I have more unpopular views, but this is enough for now.
I've heard from Marines in my shop who went to Afghan, they basically got told to stay the fuck away from the aussies because of their... lack of bedtime manners
@PodpolkovnikGeorgeCostanza Assange's leaks also endangered informants and soldiers on the ground: they killed people. Between that and reports he refused to release documents showing Russian crimes I have my doubts about his integrity. McBride endangered noone and tried to use official channels. He deserves far better
@@montys8th i thought that was their placenta after climbing out of the snow from being grown. It's Early Spring in Canada, The Maple Trees release small Canadians that will grow through the summer in mud and when the hard winter comes they rise up from the snow and the Canadian Tuxedo protects these violent and angry beings till they wonder into a Molsen's factory consume a massive amounts of Moose Piss Beer and then settle down and strip off their denim placenta for a Hockey Jersey and Work Pants to where they crave poutine and normalize themselves within the Canadian Society.
@@fireskycam9889 Most likely pressure from the commonwealth as well. Our armed forces are commonly intermingled for international operations so wouldn't surprise me if the UK etc. were pretty scared of what else would be implicated by the leaks.
I was told by a soldier who went to Afghanistan that Afghan soldiers were victimising children once a week. The superiors knew and warned the Australian soldiers to not intervene or say anything about it. American soldiers were told the same.
@@gwen2785fghan soldiers were all drug addicts, and often the same guys shooting at Australians and Americans, just like that one that killed 3 Australians on a base before fleeing
The ABC encourages people to contact them privately about sensitive issues. Might be time for people to reassess what they tell the ABC and go somewhere else.
The most mentions of 311 ever by an Aussie that wasn't taking the piss out of them for their mid-90's rap-rock, which ironically led to Limp Bizkit. They were originally a 311 cover band. 😅
codpieces were fashionable in european tradition, but alas you'd be thought of as a weirdo if you sported one nowadays in public. not that you should care if someone thinks you're a weirdo as long as it's not some war crime you're being weird about.
@@thrace_bot1012 Erm, try reading again. Slower. I was talking about criminality as in selling off supplies, reporting the false performance and fighting strength, smuggling, embezzlement ect. Other things that whistleblowers bring to light. Things that went from fairly bad to catastrophiclly bad when Yeltsin took power, then just carried on under Putin. Things that also won't get reported if the courts nail a man to the wall for doing his duty properly when nobody else was. It sends the message: "Shut up and let us do whatever we want or else"
Russia is not a rusted hollow shell. Their economy has been steadily on the rise and BRICS is bringing back the gold standard. They will surpass most western countries by 2050. The west has spent several times Russia's military budget buffing Ukraine's government and nothing has changed in 2 years.
we didn't need to be in Afghanistan. Rudd pulled out, and if the LNP had any sense they would've stayed out because it went South a after the first decade and the Australia and therefore the ADF has more important things to do. And that's before this shit.
Like father like son. After all, his old man was, prima facie, committing war-crimes whilst purporting to be head of the WA CCC. The phrase "theatre of war" comes to mind.
all countries have people who will committ warcrimes; at least we try in theory to stop it. And if we are going to war, we should have a better reason that "the US is doing it"
As an american that beer commercial bit was jarring. In the US its not allowed for advertisements to show them actually consuming alcohol, so in our commercials they just hold it, or cheers and hit the drinks together with montages of people talking and laughing while holding the beer. In that commercial you showed they just started drinking it right away and I was so confused for a second.
I've met Ben Robert Smith, shared a beer and a chat at the boozer when he visited our base. While i would not be shocked in the slightest if the allegations are true, I have to say that, the high up officers sent them on repeat deployments over and over again, it's not at all surprising to me that these men lost their morals or values, If the soldiers are gonna get burnt the officers should be the kindling.
Afghanistan, the grave yard of empires. If my memory is correct John Howard, Tony Blair and George W Bush are to blame they started that war looking for WMDs that didn’t exist. Like the old saying “what happens on the road stays on the road” War is such a filthy business.
Afghanistan never had WMD's and noone claimed they did, that was Iraq. Afghanistan was the one that sheltered Al Qaeda, you know, the ones that did 9/11 and declared war on the US. And considering the US pretty decisively beat the Taliban in the first years, the mistake was in staying for 20 years (and invading Iraq when they did)
Seems like everyone's reacting to the title and his opening bit about being fashion police. The point of this video is to call out the ABC who've abandoned the initial whistleblower exposing war crimes in Afghanistan but happy to report on the outcome of the defamation trial from a rival network. Basically, WTF???
As an Afghan Australian, what Robert and other Australian veterans did in Afghanistan is appalling. What was Australia even doing in Afghanistan? It had absolutely no business to be there.
@@AJWRAJWR a military invasion of a nation and the refugees running away to another country aren’t the same thing and even attempting to infer it is, is asinine and brain dead. Be better.
Good to see Pearls and Irritations getting more publicity. Genuinely the only reliable source on foreign policy in the entire Australian news media landscape.
i donated to the legal fund and was hoping to receive updates on the situation, but all i've seen so far is a bit of junk mail. please keep us updated jordas!
In all seriousness though, he doesn't deserve the Victoria Cross. I can't even find the reason that he got it in the first place honestly. He wasn't even half the soldier Cameron Baird, Mark Donaldson or Daniel Keighran were, or are. Cameron Baird and Daniel Keighran both threw themselves directly into enemy fire which resulted in them saving the lives of several other soldiers, in Daniels case, exposing himself during a firefight to draw fire away from medics that were treating his wounded mate under fire. In Cameron Baird's case, literally giving his life in the process by charging into a fatal funnel first and calling out enemy positions whilst being shot. Mark Donaldson ran out into the open for around 80 meters, into enemy fire from a larger force completely exposed to get a wounded Afghan interpreter and drag him back to cover and made sure he was loaded up, and then ran out of the fight on foot so the wounded could be medevac'd as there wasn't enough space in the vehicles. Ben is just a stain on the thousands of Australians who served their country, more-so when you compare him to any other Victorian Cross receiver.
The biggest thing in this is when a VC is awarded, even if you are guilty of any crime even mass murder you wear that medal and that medal alone to the gallows. Because no matter what crime you did that singular act of courage was more than could be asked of any singular person. And further if you want someone to call out look into Angus Campbell he disavows those soldiers and removed those citations yet still wears the citation awarded to that unit
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Socks and Thongs (not the american ones)
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from for a balkaner say that 😂
"He kicked a handcuffed prisoner"
Yeah that does sound pretty bad, but does that really rise to the level of a -
"... off a cliff"
Well, nevermind.
He was referred to as Leonidas as in the Spartan, the kick was inspired by 300, allegedly
@@ivon1688 well that's horrible
Imagine commiting a war crime to copy a movie you saw once.
That is literally how ut went in my mind gearing that 😅
He also has a Spartan tattoo
key word missing allegedly. Britney Higgins? anyone anyone nope we gunna let her hang from the same noose they are using on ROberts SMith good work you pack of putrid fkrs
The way our government is treating Mr McBride is a national disgrace. Hats to you Jordan for staying on it
I've always found whistleblower laws off. Like, it seems nice that people who are witnesses to bad activity have a safety net, but how motivated would a government be to protect someone snitching on them in the first place?
You can say the same about constitutions. The intended way to enforce them is checks and balances. But that's where corruption comes in.
I guess it comes down to who and what you're exposing. Any institution would be very motivated to protect someone snitching on a middle manager embezzling funds, or on a practice that is hampering efficiency. But if you call out some sort of foundational rot, it's going to be a rocky road.
then you always get the WELL THERES PROPER CHANNELS FOR WHISTLEBLWOING BLAHBLAHBLAH which doesn't matter one shit if the CoC decides they don't care.
they’re not. take Snowden. it seems like it’s wild by him though, i mean war crimes are pretty “intense” and “in your face” based on what hes said in his videos (especially the one on that guy who hosts that podcast)
@@gregl6619Like when Obama said whistleblowers will be protected.
Why should they protect anyone spilling state secrets?
Holy shit, suing for defamation over BEING A MURDERER and the judge is just like "Bro, you did it tho..."
You join the military to be a murderer 😂 and the likes of Howard Rudd etc all sent them there and begged others to help them murder
Yea butt… they made me look bad.
He was never convicted of any war crime.
@@paspax * not yet
@@paspax doesn't matter
I find it disturbing that he has the qualification of "male model" to actually give us fashion advice.
Models don’t advise on fashion. They merely provide the contextual marketing platform.
This man is paid by the state. On his off time he actually prefers socks and sandals.
He confessed to wearing the stated combo.
The crime is wearing the combo out in PUBLIC.
Pay attention guys.
That jawline don't lie, and neither does he
It certainly is an impressive jawline, difficult to pass that one by.
War crimes by the "good guys" in Afghanistan that were covered up and the whistle blowers were turned into villains? Who could ever imagine?
meanwhile western backed false flags to smear it's geopolitical rivals have become downright loonytoons. Remember Bucha?... were all the locals initially said the Russians had been gone for 2 days, and the bodies were all military aged men with Russian rations and camo trousers... This after Azov said they would shoot any 'collaborator' in recaptured towns, even accepting russian aid counts as collaboration to them btw. They will make another lovely boil of a former proxy for NATO just like the Taliban and ISIS did.
@PodpolkovnikGeorgeCostanza right? And there couldn't be any one from here in the US that's beem in the same situation and had to see asylum either.
No such thing only us and them
It's not hard to see why the Yanks are now circumspect, at least publiclly, on corroberation with the SAS. The Mia Lia massicare cast a long shadow... I will fore ever know the name Hugh Thompson and the good he did that day.
@@danieldelaney1377 us and them is when needless resource extraction wars bottom text
Still shocks me that some people consider exposing war criminals to be anti-patriotic and anti-military
What could be more patriotic and pro-military than holding your troops to account and ensuring your military isn’t known as a bunch of murderers.
Professionals for the country; not bloodthirsty criminals!
It is they were doing their job there will allways be collateral especially in a war like that
We were very clearly trained about who we could and couldn't kill in a war. So fuck Ben Roberts-Smith, the fucking coward.
Ex Infantry and if I'd seen anything like what he did, I'd have leaked to the press too.
@@danieldelaney1377 tell me the strategic advantage of kicking an unarmed and handcuffed civilian off a cliff? There’s a tremendous difference between collateral damage and going out of your way to inflict misery upon the people you’re supposed to be saving.
Holding your own soldiers to account is too “woke” for some
In concept, I find the idea of a war crime hilarious. In practice, I find it alarming and unhealthy.
Mate they are just afghans, they stone women. Absolute cavemen
What do you mean
@@prawnvr8598I think he was joking dude
No they literally stone women to death and don’t allow them an education
Oh and they also execute people who aren’t straight
McBride's judge: So you tried to do your job that we're legally obligated to let you do? Life in prison.
Look, the job of a reporter is to say what the government wants you to hear. It's very important that those who disobey be made an example of or they might get it in their heads that their job is to tell the truth, and then where would we be?
@@discordlexia2429 I know your being purposely cynical here but journalists are a tool for the general public. They are there to make sure we are all aware of what our country is doing. They are the ones who should be dragging the dirty back room deals into the lime light; from criminals to governments.
The only reason we get the sensationalist takes recently is because we've trained them to do so. They get more views and money from celebrity coverage and 'patriotic' swill than anything real and impactful; it's on us to change that and to ensure that those who do their jobs like McBride don't get punished for it.
As an American it’s always sad to see other countries’ governments doing the same stupid crap that ours does. My condolences.
That 5 year old girl took being called an 'obnoxious little brat' better than 99% of Twitter and Tiktok users.
she shoulda thrown hands! on sight!
Well, in comparison to 99% of Twitter and TikTok users, she is a child and cannot 'lash out' against people without immediate repercussions from her parents or getting into trouble.
For the same reason, no adult would accept it if they are being forcefed food they do not like. Kids however, have no choice and that's why they cry so much if they have parents that don't care.
As a German, I feel uniquely placed to comment on the moral arguments for war crimes and socks with sandles. One is the product of a toxic mix of traditionalism and the erosion of societies ability to hold others accountable for their views and the other is war crimes.
😂
And they say Germans lack a humour organ.
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Rimshot!
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Good on you , ww2 victor's write the history books
I agree with jordies on everything except, sandals with socks. The tourist grandpa look is so on fleek right now.
The best way to blend in with a crowd in Downtown Berlin
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Betraying his Croatian heritage, the khunt.
@@mpk33 exactly
@@rtmpgt European #campingcore
Haven’t you realised?
We always ask “Why did they commit a war crime?”
But never
“How did they commit a war crime?”
the how part is pretty simple usually, really if your aim is to commit a war crime the hard part is getting your ass into a warzone as someone that someone else says is a soldier which is a requirement - by that point you'll be in possession of a gun usually too so really makes the committing part of it rather an uncomplicated affair. really the complicated part why you need training is that you wouldn't commit them.
Putting a 75mm HE through civis will do it
@PodpolkovnikGeorgeCostanza so? jordie was joking too. I'm just providing the answer to the "how" just like what internet was made for, you wouldn't believe how many people think they're badasses committing warcrimes when they're merely involved in regular police brutality.
edit: seriously though the distinction is kinda important because the sas/australia/coalition is responsible as a whole for the warcrimes of their soldiers so actually many people should be prosecuted and go to prison for this, this is mainly kind of what makes it different from a mere civilian murder spree.
why? because they are TRAINED to, that's why.
as an Honored member of the Glorious Yaktish ARMY l was wounded and captured by a Sergeants in Training squad, didn't help l popped up in the middle of their formation and shot at two of theirs. l was wounded in the right knee and could not walk, the R.S.M. instructor said "shoot the prisoner", nobody hesitated or said a word, one lined up, AND SHOT ME!!!
so yeah, Australian soldiers are TRAINED to kill the (wounded) unarmed prisoners.
The fact is.....your leaders placed you in a situation that you should not have been in. Your top leaders and the people who trained you need to be in the same goal as you.
American here. Even if you aren't Australian, this is an important story to share. In a post-9/11 world, the government (and in particular in the US, the ABC organizations) are constantly vying for greater authority and reach, to the point of covering up atrocities.
Any time a whistleblower program in the western world fails, it endangers us all, because despite being different countries, there is undeniable influence between us.
The FDA is slowly (very, very, VERY slowly) adopting the standards of the EU for food safety, marijuana legalization, and of course, privacy laws, are constantly influenced by the policies of our peers.
The press should be held accountable, since the press is responsible for holding government accountable (in principle). Granted, our press is beyond fucked in the US (both sides, etc.) but that doesn't mean we shouldn't shame news organizations when they exhibit clear motive to protect the powers that be, rather than hold them accountable.
Also, maybe humans shouldnt be committing war crimes against other humans, and if someone points that out, we shouldnt punish them with life in prison?
Justice for McBride is justice for us all.
Anyone outside of Australia should spread this around as far and wide as it will go until the Australian government and ABC (not to be confused with the orgs i mentioned above) are shamed into doing their jobs properly. Someone, somewhere should feel ashamed for what McBride has gone through, and until he is vindicated, it is the public's duty to make sure that the "someone" out there feels the heat (non-violent heat, though, you psychos).
Much love from the US. We love you aussie cvnts. You are the deep south to our deep south, the florida to our florida, and the de facto containment center for all of those satanic creatures you call "animals".
Keep up the great work Mr. Shanks. Sorry for the light novel. I haven't eaten much today. Peace!
You wrote a whole essay bro god dam
@diamondgamer7646 couldn't help myself. I thought it was gonna be a quickie but the words wouldn't stop once I got started. I just fear what happens when the media (and by extension, the government) aren't held accountable, and policies made to protect citizens are ignored. Much love!
@@morgannull4685 there is 7 paragraphs
@@morgannull4685 what you mean so he genuinely wrote an essay
@@diamondgamer7646 A very small one.
Don't like war crimes??? Shit Jordan, that's a bit out there mate!!
Don't know why we care about war crimes since we disregarded Nuremberg with covid.
It’s antisemitic
What a racist, misogynistic, Un-Australian, communist, right wing, intolerant, anti-Alphabet, sexist, politically incorrect headline Jordies, lift your game.
Downright unaustralian
The Clone Wars taught me that committing war crimes is actually fun and cool
The failed trade agreements and its consequences has been a disaster on the Republic
Ki Adi Mundi moment
To be fair you can’t commit war crimes if the Geneva convention doesn’t exist in your universe
This is why we have the likes of BOBBA FETT.
@@rootsnootthnute8598He was based
"Kicking a handcuffed prisoner"
I mean yeah its bad, but a war cri-
"Off a cliff"
Oh...
That defo case was the biggest own goal in history.
How TF did U comment on this 38 minutes before the video came out?!
@@Blackey989uhhhhh it's called time travel dumbass 🤓
@@Blackey989🤦♂️ patreon
@@jackimo22not everyone knows about his patreon tbf
@@jackimo22 I think you just sold me on jordies patreon 😂
One of my biggest complaints of these war crime apologists is when they say "It'S nOnE oF oUr BuSiNeSs WhAt ThEy Do OvEr ThErE!"
I say well it is when my tax money goes to their wages.
Always amusing to hear such an argument with the paramount importance placed by the founding fathers on civilian oversight of the military.
@@tedparkinson2033 I mean not that Australia has the same set of rules by not having a constitution like the USA, but that being said I'd argue that USA civilians has even less oversight of their military than in Australia.
@@MrBlack146 Ahhh true, internet brainrot just makes me frame everything for yanks. My bad!
Yeah, acting like a comic book villain in a country that will certainly strike back, but lacks the military strength to do so by attacking military targets, is definitely none of our business. There's absolutely no way this will come back to haunt us.
Do they not understand that telling the truth is not defamation
truth would require Criminal Conviction fktrd
@@ibeatyoutubecircumventingy6344 Not necessarily. "OJ Simpson was a murderer" is the truth, as established in a subsequent civil case.
They've lost the notion of having morals.
If you stand up and speak the truth nowadays, all they say is, "How dare you".
"truth" based upon one emotionally invested eye witnessed account now if a squad mate is backing these claims id be more interested in the people that are responsible for not charging the person in question with War Crimes and why isnt the rest of his Squad/Platoon being Persecuted to? the guy doesnt go out into the Afghan wilds alone hunting Insurgents/Taliban but yeh lets act irrationally and be like the Liberal National Govt.
@@fireskycam9889 Truth is only as the evidence that backs it otherwise it is an old wives tale of revenge :) if its actually convicted warcrimes then String the big goose up with his mates if its some shitter of a Taliban who is playing you which is more likely the fkn case. Have i ever mentioned HOW RIDICULOUS IT IS OF AN IDEA FOR SOLDIERS IN COUNTRY IN COMBAT REGIONS TO NOT KILL THE EYE WITNESS IF THEY ARE COMMITTING A WARCRIME DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE RANK FKN IDIOCY OF THIS CLAIM EITHER THE THE FKN GOAT JOCKEY LYING OUT HIS ARSE OR IS THE LUCKIEST WARCRIMES EYEWITNESS THAT HAS EVER FKN LIVED!
Do you grasp this Logic you dont kill someone and leave a witness it doesnt happen especially if he was there..........
If you know anyone who works at the ABC, you'll know how utterly demoralised they are. Jordan is right to go after them, no question, but the organisation is on its last legs, having suffered wave after wave of cuts and attacks. There's hardly anything left of it to salvage these days and its a national shame.
We are white and not aboriginal why should we accept their right to the land?
Id love to know you better, thats only if you dont mind cos you seems to be a nice and very cool person
Not demoralised enough to actually observe their charter and stop the left wing extremist programming. Zero sympathy for cry bullies.
@@tracyannbanks123_.Wtf?
@@WarPigstheHun
Bot, maybe?
Personally, war crimes are my favorite crimes, when done in game
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Gaming
I do love me some Rimworld. It's horrifying that we're represented overseas by dickheads that think the same mentality could apply in real life.
Red cross doesn't like your approach, dude. Don't you know , that committing war crimes in games brings you one step closer to doing those IRL ? They already destroyed medikits, now they're going after FUN.
I've committed my fair share in Arma 3 lmao
The fact that it is so suprising that justice has been served is an indicment on our society
My roommate/good friend is a Veteran who served in Afghanistan. According to her, this behaviour is common and rife. Many soldiers were aware of both his & many others committing war crimes that were ignored and “justified”. If reported, it wasn’t recorded. This is not a rare case.
@@kremepye3613 HAHAHA SO FUNNY!!!! Grow up.
@avidclown7474 I'm not being funny, women shouldn't be on the battlefield, it's a hazard.
A lot more immoral and illegal behaviour occurs in Afghanistan and many other war zones, it’s just Ben Roberts Smith is the most transgressive and notorious example and was thus focused on
@@tripledigit4835 Soldiers are soldiers we praise them for defending their mates and attacking machine gun nests yet are surprised when they stop differentiating between the civillians attacking them and hiding in villages and those that didn't who look exatcly the same and are hiding in the same village. Also the federal government has no choice but to pursue leakers, David's 'leaks' did nothing to serve his case and untold damage to the reputation of Australia and will likely cost lives if/when (god forbid) we are in any future conflicts. I understand his heart was in the right place and I would hate to see him go to jail but our military has it's own internal arbitration for a reason.
@@kremepye3613when you stop felating your dad
I cant believe Jordie does not like war crimes. All my serbian friends have unsubscribed
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JORDIES! Jordan Shanks! This has gone on long enough! You MUST get a Warhammer 40k tattoo! You promised at 1 million subs! I demand it!
We are white and not aboriginal why should we accept their right to the land?
Id love to know you better, thats only if you dont mind cos you seems to be a nice and very cool person
It'll be very interesting to see how far up the chain the prosecutions go in regards to the alleged war crimes in Afghanistan.
While they're most likely conducted by a soldier on the front line, I can only wonder how far up the chain of command knew about possible crimes but may not have reported them.
If the alleged offenders are found guilty then they must investigate how far up the chain of command knew about it.
All involved must be held to account.
It would be a miracle if anyone up his chain, LET ALONE THE ONE WHO DID THE ACTUAL CRIMES, would be called out for them.
The most alarming thing that I learned about the war in Afghanistan was that the CIA was running death squads there, which included sending special forces out to conduct assassinations of civilians from groups that were deemed a threat. This included the murder of whole families including children. What alarms me in particular about this is that they were likely using troops like the SAS to carry this out, and as a result tacitly endorsing the murder of non-combatants.
@@jamesrowlands8971 If that was done by our SAS (Which I highly doubt) would mean that our highest command was complicit to war crimes. This I massively doubt.
@@fireskycam9889 no you don't understand australia is a puppet state of the US b-because I said so
@@fireskycam9889 before I have that specific conversation with you, are you aware that the first whistleblower against our war crimes in Afghanistan was car bombed?
" I don't like war crimes " you always have to be a damn contrarian don't you
Youknow, I might have some more of my own. These usually stirr some stuff.
I don't like most of the chocolate, I hate puppies and I don't really like cats either. Oh and I don't like Christmas in itself. It's alright, but Christmasmovies or.. music from Mariah Carey and bright lights..no.
I do not like lasagna, I do not like GOT, I don't like cars or the French language, I don't like hamburgers, I don't like chickenwings.
I don't like Coca Cola, I don't like Pepsi, I don't like football and I don't like hockey or watching any sports.
I don't like popular videogames (at least most of them) and I don't like BBQ's and I don't like sneakers or "Jordans" or any expensive brand of clothing or shoes.
I don't like getting manicures, I don't like alcoholic drinks or going out clubbing and I don't like festivals or concerts.
And I'll make it worse. I think Umbridge (apart from her racist views and obvious misguided torture of students) had a point when she criticized Hogwarts.
Not to mention, Hagrid has his heart in the right place, but without an assistant, that is not enough to be a good teacher. Especially given his lifestyle and lack of risk-assessment.
If you look at it from that point of view, she was better than Hagrid.
I have more unpopular views, but this is enough for now.
I'm German. I've got a lifetime pass to wear double denims. 😂
Meddl?^^
@@atavy Jo, Meddl! 🤘
German that thinks they're Canadian?!
I'm a German Jew. What do I get?
@@georgiaa6857 Anything you want.
I've heard from Marines in my shop who went to Afghan, they basically got told to stay the fuck away from the aussies because of their... lack of bedtime manners
Absolutely fucking criminal what they're doing to Mr McBride
They've lost the notion of having morals.
If you stand up and speak the truth nowadays, all they say is, "How dare you".
@PodpolkovnikGeorgeCostanza Assange's leaks also endangered informants and soldiers on the ground: they killed people. Between that and reports he refused to release documents showing Russian crimes I have my doubts about his integrity. McBride endangered noone and tried to use official channels. He deserves far better
David McBride is not a rat nor snitch, he is a whistleblower, big fucking difference. He is a hero.
He's a rat that leaked national secrets is what he is
Yeah, the day we call a whistleblower a snitch is the day we know we're being ruled over by gangsters.
Double denim is a timeless fashion combination Jordan.
Only in Canada
@@RealJohnnyGuillotine The Canadian Tuxedo
@@montys8th i thought that was their placenta after climbing out of the snow from being grown.
It's Early Spring in Canada, The Maple Trees release small Canadians that will grow through the summer in mud and when the hard winter comes they rise up from the snow and the Canadian Tuxedo protects these violent and angry beings till they wonder into a Molsen's factory consume a massive amounts of Moose Piss Beer and then settle down and strip off their denim placenta for a Hockey Jersey and Work Pants to where they crave poutine and normalize themselves within the Canadian Society.
The McBride case has the stench of the US state Department all over it.
How dare a lawyer try to speak the truth.
I totally agree with you.
@@fireskycam9889 Most likely pressure from the commonwealth as well. Our armed forces are commonly intermingled for international operations so wouldn't surprise me if the UK etc. were pretty scared of what else would be implicated by the leaks.
I was told by a soldier who went to Afghanistan that Afghan soldiers were victimising children once a week. The superiors knew and warned the Australian soldiers to not intervene or say anything about it. American soldiers were told the same.
That's bad but not related to this video.
@@eustoncowboy it’s still war crimes.
@@gwen2785fghan soldiers were all drug addicts, and often the same guys shooting at Australians and Americans, just like that one that killed 3 Australians on a base before fleeing
Crimes of Sodom. Acts of pure evil. Committed whilst serving as troopers. for the "good guys"
Got any more war crimes justifications to cover how in_humane Americans and Australians are?
"Kicking an unarmed prisoner" -Ok thats bad but not too bad
"...off a cliff" -a i g h t
Double denim? Ok so im safe with 5 piece denim outfit?
The BEST layer of that joke was "Oh, Crikey!! "🤣🤣🤣
The ABC encourages people to contact them privately about sensitive issues. Might be time for people to reassess what they tell the ABC and go somewhere else.
They’ll go the Assange route and claim he put soldiers lives ‘in danger’ without providing any evidence he actually did
Assange leaking documents showing where soldiers, and civilian help, are going to be puts their lives in danger. David McBride doing his job doesn't.
"If you aren't comitting war crimes, you aren't trying hard enough." - Sun Tzu, probably
The most mentions of 311 ever by an Aussie that wasn't taking the piss out of them for their mid-90's rap-rock, which ironically led to Limp Bizkit. They were originally a 311 cover band. 😅
0:04 socks with sandals are actually very fashionable in japanese tradition, there are even socks made to be worn with sandles called tabi
The weeb immediately comes in, and instead of being cringe it’s a mad own. Sucked in jordies, you just got blasted.
Japanese sandals are different in a way I can't articulate
codpieces were fashionable in european tradition, but alas you'd be thought of as a weirdo if you sported one nowadays in public. not that you should care if someone thinks you're a weirdo as long as it's not some war crime you're being weird about.
Japanese sandals don't have velcro
@@lasskinn474 Unless your a rock singer, then an army blanket
down the front of your daks is cool.
I'm so happy there's still people out there who is against double denim. Such a crime
Are. As a double denimian I raise against your poor grammar.
@@KevKavanagh you win this round denim...
8:42 - limp bizkit being the ying to 311’s yang is the best take I’ve heard in my life
Yin.
Yin-Yang is the Taoist philosophy, ying-yang is your asshole.
What ever happen to those weapons of mass destruction they were there for?
That was Iraq dummy
Afghanistan not Iraq you dumbass.
Ah yes, punishing whistleblowers and ignoring criminality.
It didn't do Russias army any harm and turn a super power into a rusted hollow shell.
This guy really thinks Russians did less War Crimes during their ascent to the Soviet super power state lmfaooo
@@thrace_bot1012 Erm, try reading again. Slower.
I was talking about criminality as in selling off supplies, reporting the false performance and fighting strength, smuggling, embezzlement ect.
Other things that whistleblowers bring to light.
Things that went from fairly bad to catastrophiclly bad when Yeltsin took power, then just carried on under Putin.
Things that also won't get reported if the courts nail a man to the wall for doing his duty properly when nobody else was.
It sends the message: "Shut up and let us do whatever we want or else"
They've lost the notion of having morals.
If you stand up and speak the truth nowadays, all they say is, "How dare you".
Russia is not a rusted hollow shell. Their economy has been steadily on the rise and BRICS is bringing back the gold standard. They will surpass most western countries by 2050. The west has spent several times Russia's military budget buffing Ukraine's government and nothing has changed in 2 years.
Don't you ever falsely accuse me of wearing socks and sandles again. Thats too far Jordie.
Who needs enemies when we're friends with sepps and do their bidding
Didnt Henry Kissinger say much the same???
Agreed we should have a militarist dictatorship committed to national defence and autarky in order to not need a super power ally
@@danieldelaney1377 lol i knew you were a limp cuck
@@danieldelaney1377 Commited to defence, defence, and only defence!!
we didn't need to be in Afghanistan. Rudd pulled out, and if the LNP had any sense they would've stayed out because it went South a after the first decade and the Australia and therefore the ADF has more important things to do. And that's before this shit.
Haven't thought of 311 in like 20 years & now their hit song 'come original' is living rent free in my head.
Went to Jordan's show in Perth on Tuesday. Had me in stitches.
While I do like 311, I'd say Incubus is the Ying to Limp Bizkit's Yang.
That being said, kicking a handcuffed man off a cliff is fucked.
It's Yin Yang not Ying Yang
This might be the most controversial Hot Takes I've heard of!
oh he wants to be an art student just like hitle- i cant make that joke i cant make that joke
Robo debt crime still takes the cake ,bet those responsible get off Scotty free
We are white and not aboriginal why should we accept their right to the land?
Id love to know you better Jeffrey, thats only if you dont mind cos you seems to be a nice and very cool person
Great work guys.
BTW, David switched lawyers and there's a new fundraiser on chuffed for the appeal to get him out of prison.
It's not a warcrime the first time
Love that guy
A fellow TFE fan.
Quackbang!
That's the kind of advice that's gonna get some of the dumber diggers in some serious trouble...
War crime was to invade Afghanistan and Iraq
Like father like son.
After all, his old man was, prima facie, committing war-crimes whilst purporting to be head of the WA CCC.
The phrase "theatre of war" comes to mind.
So… are we doing Warhammer 40K yet?
The real crime is, that he is drinking Heineken beer
Then you’ve never played Rimworld. I’ve never had more fun than when I’m committing war crimes
Ahh stellaris
That's a suspicious leather jacket you have there buddy...
@@MrGorgutzkiller You mean the one on the suspicious leather armchair or the one hung upon the skull spike?
This is the reason our country should never go to war. Some of our soldiers are guaranteed to have a goof while they’re at it.
No country should go to war, because all of us have some very fucked up people who in wartime get total power; the power to kill, r*pe and steal.
They just need more training in covering up the goofs they are paid to commit
all countries have people who will committ warcrimes; at least we try in theory to stop it. And if we are going to war, we should have a better reason that "the US is doing it"
Personally, i find jordan's shoulder pad slander the most outrageous part of this video
People can hate all they want, but sometimes you just want to feel like the Prince of all Saiyans.
A very very hurtful comment and a vicious and callous attack on the shoulder pad wearing community. Shame Jordan Shanks, SHAME.
As an american that beer commercial bit was jarring. In the US its not allowed for advertisements to show them actually consuming alcohol, so in our commercials they just hold it, or cheers and hit the drinks together with montages of people talking and laughing while holding the beer. In that commercial you showed they just started drinking it right away and I was so confused for a second.
I've met Ben Robert Smith, shared a beer and a chat at the boozer when he visited our base. While i would not be shocked in the slightest if the allegations are true, I have to say that, the high up officers sent them on repeat deployments over and over again, it's not at all surprising to me that these men lost their morals or values, If the soldiers are gonna get burnt the officers should be the kindling.
There's something rotten in Denmark. And by Denmark I mean the ADF and the ABC.
There was another failed artist who was implicated in war crimes a few years ago...
Afghanistan, the grave yard of empires. If my memory is correct John Howard, Tony Blair and George W Bush are to blame they started that war looking for WMDs that didn’t exist. Like the old saying “what happens on the road stays on the road” War is such a filthy business.
Afghanistan never had WMD's and noone claimed they did, that was Iraq. Afghanistan was the one that sheltered Al Qaeda, you know, the ones that did 9/11 and declared war on the US. And considering the US pretty decisively beat the Taliban in the first years, the mistake was in staying for 20 years (and invading Iraq when they did)
what is it with war criminals and being artists?
Hottest take friendlyjordies has ever taken
What about CH 7's Kerry Stokes funding the whole legal defence ?? Hmmmm
I have a sneaking suspicion our boy here isn’t long for a (quite excellent) UA-cam career.
FriendlyJordies news network when?
Isn't the real crime that they were celebrating with a non Australian beer. Those green cans should have been VB's or Coopers.
Seems like everyone's reacting to the title and his opening bit about being fashion police. The point of this video is to call out the ABC who've abandoned the initial whistleblower exposing war crimes in Afghanistan but happy to report on the outcome of the defamation trial from a rival network. Basically, WTF???
Damn, I can't imagine why the ABC would steer clear of this story in particular. Did something happen to them?
I’m Canadian and it’s awful here too 👍
You dare insult the Canadian Tuxedo?
Narcissism in an institution. They lack accountability.
What are the databases you used to search for press coverage? I Googled "press wide" and "presswide" and got a bunch of stuff about powerlifting.
😂😂😂
How can y'all want Julian Assange back if you're locking up McBride?
Jordy praising an Australian news network seems about on-par with the Lock-picikng-lawyer praising a padlock.
He always gives Master Lock huge praise for being so shit
No sir. I have never had socks and sandals on. Never.
As an Afghan Australian, what Robert and other Australian veterans did in Afghanistan is appalling. What was Australia even doing in Afghanistan? It had absolutely no business to be there.
I think you’ll find every single war was a case of countries having no business to be there.
Remember that guy who sent his lackeys to murder thousands of people in 2001. He was living in your country.
What business do Muslims have residing in the West?
@@AJWRAJWRevery business in the world. Why wouldn’t they?
@@AJWRAJWR a military invasion of a nation and the refugees running away to another country aren’t the same thing and even attempting to infer it is, is asinine and brain dead. Be better.
Good to see Pearls and Irritations getting more publicity. Genuinely the only reliable source on foreign policy in the entire Australian news media landscape.
"Wearing thes medals when you're a war criminal" 😂😂😂 I'm done
Ben Roberts-Smith visited my primary school in like 2010 so we could "meet a hero who has a victoria cross". Ugh.
i donated to the legal fund and was hoping to receive updates on the situation, but all i've seen so far is a bit of junk mail.
please keep us updated jordas!
Donated and glad to see he's met his fundraising goal - great work Jordies 👍
Watching you yell at me about things I spend my day yelling at other people about is FUN!
@@Rabbithole654 dance wiv me
@@Rabbithole654 ......BONKERS
10:04 Oooooooh SUCH a nice little drop you did there with 1973! Sublimus!
In all seriousness though, he doesn't deserve the Victoria Cross. I can't even find the reason that he got it in the first place honestly. He wasn't even half the soldier Cameron Baird, Mark Donaldson or Daniel Keighran were, or are. Cameron Baird and Daniel Keighran both threw themselves directly into enemy fire which resulted in them saving the lives of several other soldiers, in Daniels case, exposing himself during a firefight to draw fire away from medics that were treating his wounded mate under fire. In Cameron Baird's case, literally giving his life in the process by charging into a fatal funnel first and calling out enemy positions whilst being shot. Mark Donaldson ran out into the open for around 80 meters, into enemy fire from a larger force completely exposed to get a wounded Afghan interpreter and drag him back to cover and made sure he was loaded up, and then ran out of the fight on foot so the wounded could be medevac'd as there wasn't enough space in the vehicles.
Ben is just a stain on the thousands of Australians who served their country, more-so when you compare him to any other Victorian Cross receiver.
you can't have looked too hard... www.sasresourcesfund.org.au/static/uploads/files/citation-broberts-smith-wfxelehacrmc.pdf
Can confirm, Artists still wear Berets...
Ill have you know that my hormonal zeal is exceptional. It may be due to all of the chemicals and fillers in american food but there it is.
The biggest thing in this is when a VC is awarded, even if you are guilty of any crime even mass murder you wear that medal and that medal alone to the gallows. Because no matter what crime you did that singular act of courage was more than could be asked of any singular person. And further if you want someone to call out look into Angus Campbell he disavows those soldiers and removed those citations yet still wears the citation awarded to that unit
Angus Campbell was literally in charge of them. Either he is complicit or lacks command and control.
Its why he panics about the topic.
its an honor, but when someone does something so disgusting and evil they simply do not deserve it
@@shoeofobama6091 I agree, but this isn’t one of those instances
@@MrThomo36
why not?
Watching this before bed. Good ole hardcore aussie journalism
You're going to bed at 2:40 in the afternoon?
@@jynxx_mynxx Work it out, it's not difficult.
"The glasses, they do nothing!"
But SASR phonk edits of burning down villages and kicking clergymen off of cliffs is epic and based
Clergymen one moment, enemy 10 mins prior when they’re shooting at you. That’s based
They are
*Laughs in Bosnian Civil war-War Criminals*