If he lives there he’s fully adjusted right? Athletes do altitude training for periods of time but he’s living there full time. Maybe it works both ways. It’s harder to play there but when he goes away back down from the altitude he has that advantage? Idk
@@Gixsirit doesn’t matter how long you live there. There’s less oxygen at high altitudes like that. Even when you’re used to it there’s literally less oxygen in the air to breathe. What he did this year was absurd
Idk when it might happen (or if it could happen) but I’d absolutely love to see Travis & Shedeur reunited to play for the same team a few years into their career. That’d be some must-see TV no doubt 😤
Jeanty is the troof. Travis is an anomaly. Jeanty just had an unfortunate year of being THE SECOND BEST PLAYER in college football. Any other year this would’ve been Jeanty’s award and I can guarantee you he will make an impact in the NFL for any team that drafts him.
@@rxzesereniti9750don't need to try and devalue what he did, if it was that easy many players would do that You need skill to even get 30 carries every game and be effective
The crazy thing is there are actually people out here saying that the MWC is better than the Big 12, like be for real the Big 12 would smoke the MWC, just be grateful we was able to watch Two legendary seasons from two top athletes
@@Michael-vw4cgtrue, but let’s be honest. That was early season Oregon and they have a weak run defense. I would have liked to see them play Oregon towards the end of the season when Oregon got rolling
@@Michael-vw4cgI mean I get what your trying too say but there were 13 new starters with dudes injured from the preseason for Oregon week one while Boise st had returners on both sides at key positions. And still loss, albeit Jeanty had a great coming out game but that’s not the same team that beat Penn st and Ohio st. Like the oak cliff said people are actually tweakin thinking the big 12 is comparable too mwc even in a weak year like this for the newly grouped big 12 They played Portland state then hawaii then Utah state cmon I love his game but I feel like backs like judkins,etienne,Harvey would do near the same as ashton with 340 carries. those other rbs wouldn’t be too far behind im sure. Had he done this in the sec, big 10, big 12, shi even the ACC we could’ve had that convo
@@anthonybell9135 only 3 teams put up 30 plus on oregon Boise, Ohio State and Penn state and Boise and Penn are the only teams to over 200 yards rushing on them
I think if Travis was playing for Georgia, Texas, Oregon, Alabama, Penn State, Ohio State people would love it for him to win the Heisman trophy, but unfortunately he plays for (CU) coached by Prime. The way they hate on his coach is the problem.
@@Gixsir I understand what you are saying. It's not Travis Hunters problem that those schools are weak, and isn't the Heisman trophy awarded to the best player in college? Despite Travis playing for a weak program as you say. Isn't Travis a good player?
The way ya'll suck him off when hes never done anything is the real problem. Also if travis went to a real school, hes not even a finalist this year. Much less wins it. He stacked up empty stats at a bum program against bum programs. Anytime he played a real team, he got put in time out. Ya'll cant say the same about jeanty. And THOSE are facts.
There would be no debate if Travis did this at another school like Bama, Clemson, or Ohio State. The fact he was coached by Prime is where alot of this is hate is coming from. Corny AF. Will never see this again in this life time and people are complaining.
@@MrAllDay2uAnd he’s more talented than all of them 🤷🏾♂️ top 5 (at worst) at both positions in the country says he’s better than all their starters 🤣🤣🤣 ntm CU corners and top 3 recievers had better stats 🥴
Disagree. He wasn’t top in any metric whatsoever except played both ways, yet was still given best receiver award also, when Nick Nash lead the nation in every metric for WR’s.
@ryanlink8699 you just told us who was the most productive wr not the best. If stats are all we need to decide then there's no need to watch them play. This is why current and former players say fans are idiots.
@@ryanlink8699 then why isn’t he projected 1st round ?… it’s because scouts actually watch the games and don’t just go off “ stats “. stats not everything bro lol he also led in drops and had more targets than Travis . Trav was more efficiency on all ends and had the highest catch % . On top of that , he had better “ stats “ than T McMillian , but McMcillian is projected top 10… because scouts “ watch “ the game . Jeremiah Smith is one of the best WR’s in college football … guess what , he’s not even top 10 in stats . You gotta know the game bro , stop it . Marvin Harrison .. DOG, won it last year , wasn’t leading in stats like that either . The voters got it right
@@ryanlink8699sorry but what did Nash do on defense oh wait no other college player was playing both sides of the ball and was impactful and productive. Sure they balled but only at one position. While they were resting for their next drive he was on defense shutting down a entire side. 12 games and they only threw his side 36 times all year and only allowed 1 touchdown in 36 attempts and has 4 int and we still have not added his WR production. If leading in stats was just the case Caleb Williams should return his that year he only set a school record nothing national but yet he won.
Imagine being the best player on the team, every week they’re geared to stop you and you still rush for 150 and 1+ TDs a game. Oh yeah, lead your team to the college football playoff. Also had 190 and 1 TD against the #1 team in the college football playoffs.
@@YoungSpazz-q1k yeah and the Big12 is that much better! 😂 All their good teams left the conference. Stop it. Name the best player Travis played and went up against…. Don’t worry, I’ll wait….
Most people that have something to say haven't played past high school. They didn't have the skill to play so they are jealous of a rare specimen and/or hate Deion. Deion is proving people wrong in the NIL era and people hate that.
@@timb.3164 the best comment in the section. I said the same thing ppl hate on Hunter because who he plays for and it's sad, TBH if he were white and played for UGA there would be 0 hate.
@JohnThree-f8e Bro, Jeanty and Nick Nash had great seasons but we have to be honest, they play mostly middle school teams with the exception of Boise vs Oregon and SJSU vs UNLV. Hunter is the Number 1 receiver, a shut down corner that QBs try not to test, and plays in a harder conference. That's not easy. I think people just hate Deion because he is brash and doing well. Since Hunter is like another son, people just hate the dude.
@timb.3164 Let's not get it twisted Travis doesn't play top tier talent either. It's the big12, a power 4 yes but not an elite conference. He wasn't really tested but congrats to that man!!!
@@timb.3164 you talking like the buffs play in some heavy hitter conference lmao they sos aint that much different, and travis has QB who should has been a heisman finalist and theyre receiver's are all deadly Trav not putting the Buff offense on his back like yall try to make it seem, Jeanty week in week out going against 8-9 man boxes safties barely playing 10 yards off the los and still doing what he do
Most other years, Jeanty would win it, he just happened to be have this season at the same time when Travis had his. I think both could have won at the end of the day.
Travis isn't gonna have all the snaps in the NFL like he in college. In the league, he'll maybe start at CB and be WR3, so his overall snap count will likely be 30ish plays less than in college.
@@tyreek.6815 Say who said it! I heard it while working and listening to other content and I thought it was a great point that I hadn't previously considered. I figured other people also hadn't considered that, so I shared. Who said it first? I actually wanna know cuz I really can't remember.
Mind you these are accomplished vets telling us who deserved the heisman and yet there’s still fans who never were once athletic even if they dreamed to be are saying, “travis didnt deserve it!” Lmao
@@darnellwilliams944and let's not sit here and act like 27 RBs rushing for 2k is alot ... how many years has college football been around and you tellin me only 27 even though it's actually 30 have rushed for 2k and out those 30 only 11 have done it in the regular season
Its EASY .... Doesn't the Award Goes to The BEST PLAYER IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL???? Ok if we talk about a player that AFFECTS BOTH SIDES of The Ball/ A Player Thats GOOD ALL AROUND vs A Player that just is on 1 Side.... COMMON FKIN SENSE... Just like a job... Lets say fast food... WHOSE THE BETTER EMPLOYEE... Someone who RUNS The Grill vs Someone Who is a Good Sandwich Maker n can run drive thur/Front counter???
Deion didn’t let Trav start on both sides his freshman year at JSU. He told him he had to earn that. And he did. Isaiah Hardge #17 wanted to play both sides at CU. Prime made him earn it in practice. Tyler Brown #56 earned. So I’m pretty sure if a coach gives him that opportunity to earn it he would accept the challenge.
He can't do what travis does, travis can do what he does. Don't forget Coach Prime is about setting his players up for tomorrow. Travis could have had even better stats if that was the game.
I hate everyone's argument where they lie about Jeanty's stats lol. And yeah... you may hate it but we have seen running backs shred Mountain West defenses for over 2000 yards...
@ winning the Biletnikoff means you were the best receiver in the country. Travis didn’t have the best stats in the country, hence why I said Nick Nash since he holds number 1 in 4-5 different categories. Don’t argue semantics
@@dfrnt_hues he led his team In every category and was the go to wr. How was he #2? You do know opposing coaches double teamed him every play right ? Can’t say he was a #1 when opposing teams covered him as a #1 and left other WR’s open . Stop it , for example the catch Wester caught to go into OT was only possible by Travis being a decoy in which 3 db’s covered him . Cmon bro stop it
If you switch Travis and Jeanty will Boise State still be in the playoffs with Travis and no Jeanty ? Would Colorado be a playoff team with Jeanty at RB ?
Its funny how ppl who are pros or involved in pro game say how great a player Travis is period. Dont matter what side. But ppl who never played or never watched his games say he sucks and etc lol. I agree Jeanty deserved it. But so did Travis. No need to tear one down and fake act like both wasn't deservent to pull someone up. Thats lame. Both had great seasons the HEISMAN committee decided who they decided that doesn't take away from Jeanty great season. Ppl jus so weird nowadays where instead of saying both are dawgs and great we gotta tear one down. And this is for both sides
@ Troy Edwards. You can’t read. Stop lying. Only Barry and Jeanty have done what is stated. Troy Edward’s has 27 touchdowns and 2 interceptions in one season.
@ that’s how I know you slow. We weren’t talking about awards won after the season because they are all biased. We talking about people who played both ways and had stats while doing it. Troy Edward’s had 28 touchdowns to Travis 14. Travis got 4 picks Troy had 2.
This trophy should go to Coach Sanders for having the knowledge/balls to let a certified dawg be a dawg. I think hella players could have and can play both ways. Imagine Henry running you over and then he truck sticks your rb 😅 I bet Justin Jefferson coulda been a lockdown cb. Even Julian effing Edelman played AND MADE PLAYS at safety in the damn Super Bowl! Hopefully more coaches do this but more importantly, hopefully there’s more players now that are humble and hungry enough to do this.
Gabriel is 13 and 0 on his way to the natty he deserves it much more. No disrespect to trav but the only reason he won that is because of his NIL. If Gabriel wasn’t so humble and quiet he would have won hands down
The best team Boise played was Oregon, the best team Boise beat was UNLV. The best team UNLV beat was 6-7 Cal. The Mountain West lost twice to the BIG SKY. Other than Boise, That conference is (to put it nicely) hot dog water. also if an organization is smart Travis is a starter at corner and then you make him the 4th wr and save a roster spot. that way you don't put too much on his plate too early...
I wonder if they had let Jeanty rock all 4 quarters every game I believe he missed 8 total quarters from being pulled at half time if he had pushed 3000 yards and what would happen then
To slight jeanty for putting uo those numbers while being the main focus of every defense he went against is kinda crazy and biased af imo if he had on a Colorado jersey these same guys would be calling him the next best rb ever. Hunter is great so I think it should've been a tie for the heisman. I wish these 2 teams could play eachother in a bowl game
No one is slighting Ashton Jeanty. He had a great season. It's not insulting to say 1 player had a more impressive season. It's also not a slight to Travis Hunter to say Asthon Jeanty had a better season because Ashton Jeanty is that good. You don't have to take a difference of opinion as an insult.
2500 yards and 29 tds, mf dont have them kinda numbers in two seasons. A thousand yards and 15 tds is cool, the two-way thing is cool but jeanty went super crazy.
@JohnThree-f8e My statement wasn't based on numbers, it was to highlight that there have been recent players who played both sides other than Charles woodson and champ Bailey. Also, Chris Gamble was more impactful on both sides than Myles jack
@@patrickoconnor414not only that….the rules have changed over the last 2 decades. It’s an easier path for WRs than in years of old. What Travis did was still remarkable but these fools trying to compare stats in very different eras of football on offense are crazy
No one is down playing him. Also stop that. You hate that people are “down playin Jeanty” but you have no smoke for the entire football world attacking and belittling Travis? I’m sorry but Jeanty wasn’t getting a lick of what Travis was getting. Also we seen Running backs do what Jeanty did. No one said we seen them do the same thing… but Jeanty isn’t the first running back to go crazy with numbers. There has NEVER been a Travis Hunter. If you’re mad at THAT FACT then I’m sorry but too bad. That’s not down playing Jeanty. That is a fact.
Jeanty was robbed someone said would he get off in the playoffs, but no one is saying against #1 Oregon he had 226 yards rushing and they only lost by 3 to #1. He was 100 some yards away from breaking Barry Sanders single season record and sat out in some games because the were ahead. No big 12 championship no playoff and with no Shedeur what would he have done on the offensive side
Jeanty was never sitting out. Why do yall just spit fallacies to support your already weak argument. Against Oregon state up 16 with ball with 2 min to go in the game, Jeanty still in the game. Against San Jose st up 7 with ball with 2 mins to go in the game, Jeanty scores touchdown to go up 14. Against SDSU, Boise st up 32 points in the fourth quarter, Jeanty td to go up 49-10. Against Hawaii up 28-7 with 5 min left in game, Jeanty still in game getting rushing yards. Against WSU, Boise st up 38-17 Jeanty still in game with 4 mins left in the game. Every other game is close so he played the whole game. There was only 1 single game were he sat out the 4 quarter the whole season and that was Utah state. So stop spreading lies. Boise st knew he was in the heisman race since week 1, so they purposely keep him in the game to pad his stats.
6:59 it’s usually the ppl that never played or bots that be hating 😂 8:29 he might be able to reset the market at DB if he plays in packages on offense too 🤷🏽♂️
@ I know captain obvious lmao. That’s why I’m saying he might be able to reset the market when it’s his time to sign his second contract. Who knows maybe you meant to comment under someone else’s but okay lmao
No the hell you did not. Travis only got smoked 1 time and that was last year. This year he blown a zone coverage. He has not been smoked. Stop lying for no reason. It’s corny asf. How he get smoked but the stats don’t say he did? Not to mention THE FILM.
Cam Skateboo better than Jenty. Played much harder defenses and had better receving numbers by far. That carries more weight in todays game. I hope to God Dallas gets Cam
@ yall gotta stop. Only getting 30 tackles is not the best defender on the field idgaf if they not throwing your way. Get to the ball like everyone else has to. It’s. Dbs with the same amount or 1 less interception than he has but has double or triple the tackles and sacks. Let’s be real. And the conference is ass
29 players have rushed for over 2000 yards. Now think of all the players that have done it NOT in the mountain west conference Trav had 4 picks on defense Woulda had more if they threw his way A walk off forced fumble at the goal line A play that safeties and linebackers typically make 90-1100-15 td Woulda had more if the 2nd best receiver didn’t have 900yd an 10td Let’s be smart human beings now. We’ve never seen what Travis has displayed While on prime time every week.
Ashton Jeanty just broke the Top 5 single season rushing record and missed whole halves and Colorado was stat padding up until the very last game. But I guess the Heisman is all about NFL "potential".
Jeanty was never sitting at half-time. Why do yall just spit fallacies to support your already weak argument. Against Oregon state up 16 with ball with 2 min to go in the game, Jeanty still in the game. Against San Jose st up 7 with ball with 2 mins to go in the game, Jeanty scores touchdown to go up 14. Against SDSU, Boise st up 32 points in the fourth quarter, Jeanty td to go up 49-10. Against Hawaii up 28-7 with 5 min left in game, Jeanty still in game getting rushing yards. Against WSU, Boise st up 38-17 Jeanty still in game with 4 mins left in the game. Every other game is close so he played the whole game. There was only 1 single game were he sat out the 4 quarter the whole season and that was Utah state. So stop spreading lies. Boise st knew he was in the heisman race since week 1, so they purposely keep him in the game to pad his stats.
@@christianshaw2450 He didn't have one carry in the second half against Portland State and Utah State. Thats 1 whole game of no stats and still made it to the 4th best rushing record of college football history.
@ Travis has 1 Less game played then Jeanty plus whole half’s when he was hurt. Boise st literally was force feeding this dude up 4 scores, when they knew he had a shot at the heisman.
This take is bs Mfs talking about those are number one receiver stats. Y’all really on 🍆 riding ish at this point. The heisman I understand (I don’t agree) but I get why he won. IDGAF bout how much y’all used to play, for y’all to sit here and say this jitt deserved that Biletnikoff award is complete bs. It’s for the best WR and he wasn’t number 1 in any receiver category.
Hes dope. Great kid. 4.0 GPA. My issue is who did he do it against? He balled out against the B team. Unfortunately he didn't get enough tape against A tier players. Put him in the big10 or sec and let's see if he still plays the same or if he managed to be the best WR or DB in CFB then I could give him the vote. He wasn't either the best at either position AND he played sub-par teams. He basically had to choose, heisman or championship. Because he wasn't winning a chip at colorado.
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@@Quan-g2s I mean hey it's a clutch play sure , and props to Hunter on making the play. I'm just saying you don't find it ironic with Hunter playing all these snaps his heisman moment according to you is a goaline forced fumble against Baylor? By which he had 7 recptions for 130 yards and 2 tackles w/ a forced fumble on defense. Looking at the stats they don't jump out in this game, narrative wise it's just a big 12 game it's not like a forced fumble vs a Bama or a big time school.
This isn’t an award for the best player that plays on a good team. This isn’t the NFL MVP. This is The Most Outstanding Player in College Football Award. Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniel’s teams didn’t make the playoffs. They won the Heisman, because they were the most outstanding player in the country.
@ see I thought it was about difference maker for the team. I forget who was competing against Caleb and Jayden those years but comparing Hunter and Jeanty I figured Jeanty made his team better and set records. But I see now. Hunter was definitely most outstanding by playing both ways
We all know why people were pushing for Jeanty lol the same exact people rooted for Caitlin Clark. These people are usually casuals and aren’t rooting FOR Jeanty but against PrimeTime through Travis
@@tyreek.6815we have to stop talking crap about Jeanty. That’s a crab in the barrel type attitude. I am sick of black people downing another brother. That’s just what they want.
I don't like all this hype around him cause everyone said he was going to destroy Barry's record. Played more games and still 130 yards short. Y'all need to chill out my guy 😭
I can almost guarantee you that this comment will get little to no traction because you are the exact example of a hater and jealousy these vets are discussing. Travis in fact was the defensive player of the year and easily in the top 10 as a receiver. That’s unheard of to be elite on both ends out of all D1 players in the nation. You are a 🤡
You might not believe Jeanty was robbed, but imo Nick Nash unequivocally was robbed of the biletnikoff. Led the nation in receiving yards, catches, and TDs. THAT award is purely based on your work as a receiver. So Travis playing DB should have zero impact on whi wins that award. Idk how a guy gets the triple crown as a receiver and doesn't get the NCAA best award for receivers.
Closest heisman race since 2009. Nobody was robbed. Both were amazing players
He one of one I had to see him in person I had to see in person. I saw his first game in Colorado he is him.
These guys are speaking facts because they played in the NFL
People forget, Travis did this playing in Colorado with the high altitude. Plenty of athletes have said it’s hard to breath in Colorado
If he lives there he’s fully adjusted right? Athletes do altitude training for periods of time but he’s living there full time. Maybe it works both ways. It’s harder to play there but when he goes away back down from the altitude he has that advantage? Idk
@@GixsirTraining at altitude increases overall cardiovascular ability. It giving you a boost at lower altitudes
@@Gixsir doesnt matter it make sense if he didnt play every single snap all year long doesnt matter how conditioned you are what he did was insane
😂😂😂yall crazy
@@Gixsirit doesn’t matter how long you live there. There’s less oxygen at high altitudes like that. Even when you’re used to it there’s literally less oxygen in the air to breathe. What he did this year was absurd
Idk when it might happen (or if it could happen) but I’d absolutely love to see Travis & Shedeur reunited to play for the same team a few years into their career. That’d be some must-see TV no doubt 😤
He EARNED it........ but MICHAEL MYERS is a monster of his own.....
Yes, Jeanty had a "REMARKABLE" season fact, but Travis's season was "UNPRECEDENTED"!
I think both are unprecedented, another 2500 rusher seems kinda rare
Playing both sides of the ball hard asf bro I played both ways in highschool playing for a small school its exhausting asf bro
For you
i know that feeling all too well 🤦🏾♂️
Jeanty is the troof. Travis is an anomaly. Jeanty just had an unfortunate year of being THE SECOND BEST PLAYER in college football. Any other year this would’ve been Jeanty’s award and I can guarantee you he will make an impact in the NFL for any team that drafts him.
@@InvictusRed1911 facts
When a team loads the box and the running back still gets those numbers, he should get more respect.
When you run the ball 30 times a game you wear any defense down
@@rxzesereniti9750don't need to try and devalue what he did, if it was that easy many players would do that
You need skill to even get 30 carries every game and be effective
The crazy thing is there are actually people out here saying that the MWC is better than the Big 12, like be for real the Big 12 would smoke the MWC, just be grateful we was able to watch Two legendary seasons from two top athletes
Boise did give Oregon the closest game this season and it was off Ashton’s back…
@@Michael-vw4cgtrue, but let’s be honest. That was early season Oregon and they have a weak run defense. I would have liked to see them play Oregon towards the end of the season when Oregon got rolling
@@Michael-vw4cgI mean I get what your trying too say but there were 13 new starters with dudes injured from the preseason for Oregon week one while Boise st had returners on both sides at key positions. And still loss, albeit Jeanty had a great coming out game but that’s not the same team that beat Penn st and Ohio st. Like the oak cliff said people are actually tweakin thinking the big 12 is comparable too mwc even in a weak year like this for the newly grouped big 12 They played Portland state then hawaii then Utah state cmon I love his game but I feel like backs like judkins,etienne,Harvey would do near the same as ashton with 340 carries. those other rbs wouldn’t be too far behind im sure. Had he done this in the sec, big 10, big 12, shi even the ACC we could’ve had that convo
@@Michael-vw4cgAnd on Jeanty back they barely beat wyoming (3-9), Nevada (3-10), Georgia southern who play in the sun belt.
@@anthonybell9135 only 3 teams put up 30 plus on oregon Boise, Ohio State and Penn state and Boise and Penn are the only teams to over 200 yards rushing on them
THANK YALLLLLLL! This shit need 100,000,000,000 fucking views
I think if Travis was playing for Georgia, Texas, Oregon, Alabama, Penn State, Ohio State people would love it for him to win the Heisman trophy, but unfortunately he plays for (CU) coached by Prime. The way they hate on his coach is the problem.
Regardless of Deion don’t those schools have harder schedules to play and harder competition on the team for spots available?
Facts the Prime hate is from the HBCUs and major programs because he has the capability to recruit.
@@Gixsir I understand what you are saying. It's not Travis Hunters problem that those schools are weak, and isn't the Heisman trophy awarded to the best player in college? Despite Travis playing for a weak program as you say. Isn't Travis a good player?
@@Gixsirschedule so hard they lose to NON CONFERENCE OPPONENTS! 🤣🤣🤣
The way ya'll suck him off when hes never done anything is the real problem. Also if travis went to a real school, hes not even a finalist this year. Much less wins it. He stacked up empty stats at a bum program against bum programs. Anytime he played a real team, he got put in time out. Ya'll cant say the same about jeanty. And THOSE are facts.
There would be no debate if Travis did this at another school like Bama, Clemson, or Ohio State. The fact he was coached by Prime is where alot of this is hate is coming from. Corny AF. Will never see this again in this life time and people are complaining.
Lol sure
A ton of folks definitely have this view of his "Primetime" persona and believe that's his whole personality. Its extends to Colorado.
He wouldn't be playing both ways at those schools.
They actually have talent on the roster.
Bingo!
@@MrAllDay2uAnd he’s more talented than all of them 🤷🏾♂️ top 5 (at worst) at both positions in the country says he’s better than all their starters 🤣🤣🤣 ntm CU corners and top 3 recievers had better stats 🥴
This man Travis Hunter literally did Blitz the league 2 in college🔥 It’s well deserved
People will look at this and say “yall don’t know ball travis doesn’t deserve this” 😂
Lets not forget about Chris Gramble at Ohio State in the early 2000s
Every football player I seen speak on keep saying Travis it’s the non football ppl…
It was deserved for Hunter, so Jeanty didn't get robbed.
Disagree. He wasn’t top in any metric whatsoever except played both ways, yet was still given best receiver award also, when Nick Nash lead the nation in every metric for WR’s.
@ryanlink8699 you just told us who was the most productive wr not the best. If stats are all we need to decide then there's no need to watch them play. This is why current and former players say fans are idiots.
@@ryanlink8699 then why isn’t he projected 1st round ?… it’s because scouts actually watch the games and don’t just go off “ stats “. stats not everything bro lol he also led in drops and had more targets than Travis . Trav was more efficiency on all ends and had the highest catch % . On top of that , he had better “ stats “ than T McMillian , but McMcillian is projected top 10… because scouts “ watch “ the game . Jeremiah Smith is one of the best WR’s in college football … guess what , he’s not even top 10 in stats . You gotta know the game bro , stop it . Marvin Harrison .. DOG, won it last year , wasn’t leading in stats like that either . The voters got it right
@@ryanlink8699boohoo
@@ryanlink8699sorry but what did Nash do on defense oh wait no other college player was playing both sides of the ball and was impactful and productive. Sure they balled but only at one position. While they were resting for their next drive he was on defense shutting down a entire side. 12 games and they only threw his side 36 times all year and only allowed 1 touchdown in 36 attempts and has 4 int and we still have not added his WR production. If leading in stats was just the case Caleb Williams should return his that year he only set a school record nothing national but yet he won.
This “did blank get robbed” narrative needs to stop. If it was a competition and so and so was in 2nd place the entire time how tf you get robbed?
Imagine being the best player on the team, every week they’re geared to stop you and you still rush for 150 and 1+ TDs a game. Oh yeah, lead your team to the college football playoff. Also had 190 and 1 TD against the #1 team in the college football playoffs.
Imagine a grueling schedule against Georgia State and Nevada state 😮💨
In the Mountain West and getting 40 snaps a game. It not that crazy.
@@christianshaw2450 literally 63 more carries than the next most in football
@@YoungSpazz-q1k yeah and the Big12 is that much better! 😂 All their good teams left the conference. Stop it. Name the best player Travis played and went up against…. Don’t worry, I’ll wait….
@ McMillan was second in the Belitnikof running 🤷🏾♂️🥴
Most people that have something to say haven't played past high school. They didn't have the skill to play so they are jealous of a rare specimen and/or hate Deion. Deion is proving people wrong in the NIL era and people hate that.
@@timb.3164 the best comment in the section. I said the same thing ppl hate on Hunter because who he plays for and it's sad, TBH if he were white and played for UGA there would be 0 hate.
@JohnThree-f8e Bro, Jeanty and Nick Nash had great seasons but we have to be honest, they play mostly middle school teams with the exception of Boise vs Oregon and SJSU vs UNLV. Hunter is the Number 1 receiver, a shut down corner that QBs try not to test, and plays in a harder conference. That's not easy. I think people just hate Deion because he is brash and doing well. Since Hunter is like another son, people just hate the dude.
@timb.3164 Let's not get it twisted Travis doesn't play top tier talent either. It's the big12, a power 4 yes but not an elite conference. He wasn't really tested but congrats to that man!!!
@@JohnThree-f8ethat makes zero sense. Jeanty is also black. And doesn’t play for a huge football university.
@@timb.3164 you talking like the buffs play in some heavy hitter conference lmao they sos aint that much different, and travis has QB who should has been a heisman finalist and theyre receiver's are all deadly Trav not putting the Buff offense on his back like yall try to make it seem, Jeanty week in week out going against 8-9 man boxes safties barely playing 10 yards off the los and still doing what he do
Travis deserved the win….and Jeanty wasn’t robbed either.
Most other years, Jeanty would win it, he just happened to be have this season at the same time when Travis had his. I think both could have won at the end of the day.
Whats lgihtskin buddy talking about. Thought this convo was about him getting the heisman?
Travis isn't gonna have all the snaps in the NFL like he in college. In the league, he'll maybe start at CB and be WR3, so his overall snap count will likely be 30ish plays less than in college.
I see you stealing someone’s take. I know who said that but I’m a real one and imma give you the credit. W take🤣🤣🤣
@@tyreek.6815 Say who said it! I heard it while working and listening to other content and I thought it was a great point that I hadn't previously considered. I figured other people also hadn't considered that, so I shared. Who said it first? I actually wanna know cuz I really can't remember.
Y'all done bounced Sweet out? 😂 Dayum
Does jeanty play defense and offense??? At an high level?
Trust the nfl ain’t letting anyone from Colorado fall to a top 5 team
Mind you these are accomplished vets telling us who deserved the heisman and yet there’s still fans who never were once athletic even if they dreamed to be are saying, “travis didnt deserve it!” Lmao
5:04 dont pretend its a normal thing to do
27other RB had 2k
@darnellwilliams944 how many had 2600 yards from scrimmage and would be on the bench by halftime for multiple games mans could've rushed for 3k
@@darnellwilliams944and let's not sit here and act like 27 RBs rushing for 2k is alot ... how many years has college football been around and you tellin me only 27 even though it's actually 30 have rushed for 2k and out those 30 only 11 have done it in the regular season
For from normal bro JT was the last back to rush for 2k back in 18 and he needed his Bowl game to get over 2k
@deewallace9907 that's only because they don't rush as much as they used to but it would happen more often if they rushed more
Its EASY .... Doesn't the Award Goes to The BEST PLAYER IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL????
Ok if we talk about a player that AFFECTS BOTH SIDES of The Ball/ A Player Thats GOOD ALL AROUND vs A Player that just is on 1 Side....
COMMON FKIN SENSE...
Just like a job... Lets say fast food... WHOSE THE BETTER EMPLOYEE... Someone who RUNS The Grill vs Someone Who is a Good Sandwich Maker n can run drive thur/Front counter???
Jeanty was the best RB in college football, Travis was the best all around player in college football
Deion didn’t let Trav start on both sides his freshman year at JSU. He told him he had to earn that. And he did. Isaiah Hardge #17 wanted to play both sides at CU. Prime made him earn it in practice. Tyler Brown #56 earned. So I’m pretty sure if a coach gives him that opportunity to earn it he would accept the challenge.
TRAVIS HUNTER NOT BEING A JIM THORPE FINALIST IS COLLEGE FOOTBALL TRYING TO MAKE THE CHOICE FOR HIM TO BE CONSIDERED A WR.
I hate everyone’s argument “we’ve seen what jeanty’s done before”
No we haven’t. He has 1882* yards AFTER contact and that IS the RECORD.
He can't do what travis does, travis can do what he does. Don't forget Coach Prime is about setting his players up for tomorrow. Travis could have had even better stats if that was the game.
I hate everyone's argument where they lie about Jeanty's stats lol. And yeah... you may hate it but we have seen running backs shred Mountain West defenses for over 2000 yards...
1882 but still crazy
@@ethanrabinowitz8559We saw LaDainlian Tomlinson in basically the same conference put up worse numbers
How many tackles did he have? How many times he ran for 400yds? Look up Melvin Gordon 2014.
Man we seen what Ashton did when Monte Ball was on the scene years back😂
“Those are number one receiver stats” lmao Nick Nash would like a word about that
He means WR1 on the roster not number 1 overalls
Not sure if you new to football but he’s talking about WR1 bro lmbo
@ winning the Biletnikoff means you were the best receiver in the country. Travis didn’t have the best stats in the country, hence why I said Nick Nash since he holds number 1 in 4-5 different categories. Don’t argue semantics
Travis was #2 fr
@@dfrnt_hues he led his team In every category and was the go to wr. How was he #2? You do know opposing coaches double teamed him every play right ? Can’t say he was a #1 when opposing teams covered him as a #1 and left other WR’s open . Stop it , for example the catch Wester caught to go into OT was only possible by Travis being a decoy in which 3 db’s covered him . Cmon bro stop it
Wester had 880yrds 70 rec. And 1 tuds... trav competing with that
Wester 100% has more than one tuddy btw
Wester had 10 TDs. What are you talking about?
@@Bruss813 I think they meant to say 10
Jeanty has a chance for a nation championship that’s what really matters too
team wise
Boise state ain’t winning anything
@@yrnsheik4451 could be true I’m just adding to they take on Jeanty saying he’s got a chance. They got a first round bye
If you switch Travis and Jeanty will Boise State still be in the playoffs with Travis and no Jeanty ? Would Colorado be a playoff team with Jeanty at RB ?
Its funny how ppl who are pros or involved in pro game say how great a player Travis is period. Dont matter what side. But ppl who never played or never watched his games say he sucks and etc lol. I agree Jeanty deserved it. But so did Travis. No need to tear one down and fake act like both wasn't deservent to pull someone up. Thats lame. Both had great seasons the HEISMAN committee decided who they decided that doesn't take away from Jeanty great season. Ppl jus so weird nowadays where instead of saying both are dawgs and great we gotta tear one down. And this is for both sides
People saying that we never seen what Travis do is lying. Troy Edwards had better stats
No one has done what Trav did at all. 26 others did what JEANTY did. Don’t discussion
@ Troy Edwards. You can’t read. Stop lying. Only Barry and Jeanty have done what is stated. Troy Edward’s has 27 touchdowns and 2 interceptions in one season.
Troy Edwards did not win the Bednarik...
@ that’s how I know you slow. We weren’t talking about awards won after the season because they are all biased. We talking about people who played both ways and had stats while doing it. Troy Edward’s had 28 touchdowns to Travis 14. Travis got 4 picks Troy had 2.
@@AasonMoll at the end of the day the heisman committee voted on the winner. Your opinion is dumb and pointless
This trophy should go to Coach Sanders for having the knowledge/balls to let a certified dawg be a dawg. I think hella players could have and can play both ways. Imagine Henry running you over and then he truck sticks your rb 😅 I bet Justin Jefferson coulda been a lockdown cb. Even Julian effing Edelman played AND MADE PLAYS at safety in the damn Super Bowl! Hopefully more coaches do this but more importantly, hopefully there’s more players now that are humble and hungry enough to do this.
You only see this in pal I played fullback an linebacker
Gabriel is 13 and 0 on his way to the natty he deserves it much more. No disrespect to trav but the only reason he won that is because of his NIL. If Gabriel wasn’t so humble and quiet he would have won hands down
IF YOU SWITCHED BOTH OF THOSE PLAYERS TO THE OPPOSITE TEAM WHO WOULD HELP BENEFIT EACH MORE. THAT WOULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON WHO SHOULDVE WON
If I’m Jeanty I go back to school just to go get that.
Nah
@ with NIL paying players you wouldn’t do another year just to get your heisman?
The best team Boise played was Oregon, the best team Boise beat was UNLV. The best team UNLV beat was 6-7 Cal. The Mountain West lost twice to the BIG SKY. Other than Boise, That conference is (to put it nicely) hot dog water. also if an organization is smart Travis is a starter at corner and then you make him the 4th wr and save a roster spot. that way you don't put too much on his plate too early...
You can’t get mad at jeantys carries if you gonna use snaps as an argument for hunter
I wonder if they had let Jeanty rock all 4 quarters every game I believe he missed 8 total quarters from being pulled at half time if he had pushed 3000 yards and what would happen then
Somebody say something about the oline he had
I feel like if Jeanty went to a big known football school he would have won
Bro caught for 1,000 yards and then on the other side make 20 plus tackles lol
W vid
Maaaaan imagine him with the chiefs!
To slight jeanty for putting uo those numbers while being the main focus of every defense he went against is kinda crazy and biased af imo if he had on a Colorado jersey these same guys would be calling him the next best rb ever. Hunter is great so I think it should've been a tie for the heisman. I wish these 2 teams could play eachother in a bowl game
No one is slighting Ashton Jeanty. He had a great season. It's not insulting to say 1 player had a more impressive season. It's also not a slight to Travis Hunter to say Asthon Jeanty had a better season because Ashton Jeanty is that good. You don't have to take a difference of opinion as an insult.
He ain't better than Melvin Gordon... Or the competition he had
Okay, so Jeanty doesn’t win it over Travis in 2024. What other years does he win the heisman? I think he gets Mark Ingram’s and RGIII’s heismans.
Travis was definitely the number one target these guys don’t know wat they talking about
Bc people don’t actually watch football. Or pay attention to topics they be talking about on podcasts.
That statement was 50/50 but gotta listen to wat they say after that
@@Quan-g2sexcept it wasn’t 50/50. He led them in targets by a wide margin
People are dos hateful they can’t admit either deserved to win.
2500 yards and 29 tds, mf dont have them kinda numbers in two seasons. A thousand yards and 15 tds is cool, the two-way thing is cool but jeanty went super crazy.
Chris Gamble was the last two way player
@@patrickoconnor414 and still didn't put up numbers like Travis and Myles Jack I believe was the last real two way player.
@JohnThree-f8e My statement wasn't based on numbers, it was to highlight that there have been recent players who played both sides other than Charles woodson and champ Bailey. Also, Chris Gamble was more impactful on both sides than Myles jack
@@patrickoconnor414not only that….the rules have changed over the last 2 decades. It’s an easier path for WRs than in years of old. What Travis did was still remarkable but these fools trying to compare stats in very different eras of football on offense are crazy
No running back ever had 2500 rushing yards…I hate how they trying to down play wat jeanty did
No one is down playing him. Also stop that. You hate that people are “down playin Jeanty” but you have no smoke for the entire football world attacking and belittling Travis? I’m sorry but Jeanty wasn’t getting a lick of what Travis was getting. Also we seen Running backs do what Jeanty did. No one said we seen them do the same thing… but Jeanty isn’t the first running back to go crazy with numbers. There has NEVER been a Travis Hunter. If you’re mad at THAT FACT then I’m sorry but too bad. That’s not down playing Jeanty. That is a fact.
ONLY THE PRIME HATERS, WHITES AND BOISE FANS WANTED JEANTY TO WIN
Exactly
😂
You lame and corny. Both were deserving.
I think jeanty should of got it he legit ran Boise state into the cfp
Colorado got spanked by Oregon and Boise came within 3 points of beating the #1 ranked team in the nation
In different seasons
Bro those are two completely different teams.
Did they win? I don't gi e a fuck how close they played them. Did they win? No!! So STF
@@polpolpful They lost!!
Hunter did not play that game lol. He was hurt. Stop lol
Travis only allowed 65 yards all season
Why yall don’t let man man make his argument? Yall can’t have a counter discourse? SMH bring back Bates
i didn’t even know he was on my carolina panthers
Jeanty was robbed someone said would he get off in the playoffs, but no one is saying against #1 Oregon he had 226 yards rushing and they only lost by 3 to #1. He was 100 some yards away from breaking Barry Sanders single season record and sat out in some games because the were ahead. No big 12 championship no playoff and with no Shedeur what would he have done on the offensive side
He sat out two half's. So he didn't play in one whole game but still played more games than Barry did back in 88. Still 130 yards short. Just saying.
He took 4 more games than Barry. Keep his name outta your delusion
Jeanty was never sitting out. Why do yall just spit fallacies to support your already weak argument. Against Oregon state up 16 with ball with 2 min to go in the game, Jeanty still in the game. Against San Jose st up 7 with ball with 2 mins to go in the game, Jeanty scores touchdown to go up 14. Against SDSU, Boise st up 32 points in the fourth quarter, Jeanty td to go up 49-10. Against Hawaii up 28-7 with 5 min left in game, Jeanty still in game getting rushing yards. Against WSU, Boise st up 38-17 Jeanty still in game with 4 mins left in the game. Every other game is close so he played the whole game. There was only 1 single game were he sat out the 4 quarter the whole season and that was Utah state. So stop spreading lies. Boise st knew he was in the heisman race since week 1, so they purposely keep him in the game to pad his stats.
Boise st almost lost to the 2 worst teams in there weak ass conference
@ almost only counts in horseshoes
6:59 it’s usually the ppl that never played or bots that be hating 😂
8:29 he might be able to reset the market at DB if he plays in packages on offense too 🤷🏽♂️
TRAVIS WAS THE #1 OPTION WTF😂😂😂
@ I know captain obvious lmao. That’s why I’m saying he might be able to reset the market when it’s his time to sign his second contract. Who knows maybe you meant to comment under someone else’s but okay lmao
He’s not doing that in the big ten sec or nfl
100% correct.
Nah y'all don't know that. Ppl swear they know what hypotheticals would do.
We haven’t seen this level of 2 way player ever. So who is to say he can’t?
Yea he is
@@yrnsheik4451 when ? He played scrub Ds all year.
Truth
I watched Travis get smoked by several receivers and shut down by corners
No you didn't
no you didn't. he only allowed one touchdown and if he was shut down then how in the hell did he get 1400 yards and 14 td's while missing two games?
No the hell you did not. Travis only got smoked 1 time and that was last year. This year he blown a zone coverage. He has not been smoked. Stop lying for no reason. It’s corny asf. How he get smoked but the stats don’t say he did? Not to mention THE FILM.
This dude cap he might got beat 1 or 2 plays in a season but saying he gets strapped or gets cooked is insane when he only let up 1 td 💀
L rage bait
There strength of schedules are the same.
Cam Skateboo better than Jenty. Played much harder defenses and had better receving numbers by far. That carries more weight in todays game. I hope to God Dallas gets Cam
Not to mention can get the same yards in less carries.
@@tyreek.6815no he can’t cam averaged 6ypc jeanty averaged 7.3ypc
Cam is awesome..... Not better than Jeanty though
Melvin Gordon didn’t win it, I don’t want to her it
Travis winning defensive player of the year was total bullshit let’s be honest here
He the best defender in college stop iy
@ yall gotta stop. Only getting 30 tackles is not the best defender on the field idgaf if they not throwing your way. Get to the ball like everyone else has to. It’s. Dbs with the same amount or 1 less interception than he has but has double or triple the tackles and sacks. Let’s be real. And the conference is ass
HE12MAN!!!!
29 players have rushed for over 2000 yards.
Now think of all the players that have done it
NOT in the mountain west conference
Trav had 4 picks on defense
Woulda had more if they threw his way
A walk off forced fumble at the goal line
A play that safeties and linebackers typically make
90-1100-15 td
Woulda had more if the 2nd best receiver didn’t have 900yd an 10td
Let’s be smart human beings now.
We’ve never seen what Travis has displayed
While on prime time every week.
This title is stupid.
Podcasts do too much these days.
Its a popularity contest in this world it's sad
Chris gamble
Ashton Jeanty just broke the Top 5 single season rushing record and missed whole halves and Colorado was stat padding up until the very last game. But I guess the Heisman is all about NFL "potential".
If that's the case it should of still gone to Jeanty.
🥱🥱🥱. Travis still got it, get over it
Jeanty was never sitting at half-time. Why do yall just spit fallacies to support your already weak argument. Against Oregon state up 16 with ball with 2 min to go in the game, Jeanty still in the game. Against San Jose st up 7 with ball with 2 mins to go in the game, Jeanty scores touchdown to go up 14. Against SDSU, Boise st up 32 points in the fourth quarter, Jeanty td to go up 49-10. Against Hawaii up 28-7 with 5 min left in game, Jeanty still in game getting rushing yards. Against WSU, Boise st up 38-17 Jeanty still in game with 4 mins left in the game. Every other game is close so he played the whole game. There was only 1 single game were he sat out the 4 quarter the whole season and that was Utah state. So stop spreading lies. Boise st knew he was in the heisman race since week 1, so they purposely keep him in the game to pad his stats.
@@christianshaw2450 He didn't have one carry in the second half against Portland State and Utah State. Thats 1 whole game of no stats and still made it to the 4th best rushing record of college football history.
@ Travis has 1 Less game played then Jeanty plus whole half’s when he was hurt. Boise st literally was force feeding this dude up 4 scores, when they knew he had a shot at the heisman.
This take is bs Mfs talking about those are number one receiver stats. Y’all really on 🍆 riding ish at this point. The heisman I understand (I don’t agree) but I get why he won. IDGAF bout how much y’all used to play, for y’all to sit here and say this jitt deserved that Biletnikoff award is complete bs. It’s for the best WR and he wasn’t number 1 in any receiver category.
The 3 days off was never his choice but kind of demanded by prime cause he knew his importance
Hell Naw Jeanty is average frfr I don’t see the hype
Hell naw he wasn’t cheated
Hes dope. Great kid. 4.0 GPA. My issue is who did he do it against? He balled out against the B team. Unfortunately he didn't get enough tape against A tier players. Put him in the big10 or sec and let's see if he still plays the same or if he managed to be the best WR or DB in CFB then I could give him the vote. He wasn't either the best at either position AND he played sub-par teams. He basically had to choose, heisman or championship. Because he wasn't winning a chip at colorado.
This whole ep was ducking sucking , we never seen any body do this we have , we just got internet now. Stop it
He's not that guy at CB
That why he was barely thrown to?
F A C T S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bro won the heisman and doesnt even have a heisman moment. Even with 1.4k snaps anit that a bih???
Every wr catch/touchdown or cb play was a heisman moment
@@Quan-g2s [. . . The difference between "moment" and "moments" is that "moment" is singular and refers to a single short period of time, while "moments" is plural and refers to more than one short period of time. ]
@@lynlynb7139 if u feel he shouldn't have won without havin a heisman "moment" then I guess the forced fumble in the baylor game never happened
@@Quan-g2s I mean hey it's a clutch play sure , and props to Hunter on making the play. I'm just saying you don't find it ironic with Hunter playing all these snaps his heisman moment according to you is a goaline forced fumble against Baylor?
By which he had 7 recptions for 130 yards and 2 tackles w/ a forced fumble on defense. Looking at the stats they don't jump out in this game, narrative wise it's just a big 12 game it's not like a forced fumble vs a Bama or a big time school.
@@lynlynb7139 and then u have the 10 receptions,100+yards,3 touchdowns game vs ndsu with one of them displayin unbelievable ability
Haters 😂
Boise State making playoffs gives Jeanty the edge for me
This isn’t an award for the best player that plays on a good team. This isn’t the NFL MVP. This is The Most Outstanding Player in College Football Award. Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniel’s teams didn’t make the playoffs. They won the Heisman, because they were the most outstanding player in the country.
@ see I thought it was about difference maker for the team. I forget who was competing against Caleb and Jayden those years but comparing Hunter and Jeanty I figured Jeanty made his team better and set records. But I see now. Hunter was definitely most outstanding by playing both ways
Are they going to win the National Championship? So it’s a participation trophy is what you saying?
Bruh. It’s the headman not mvp.
@@obeliskjiren9129 I think his argument is that CU can't even get a participation trophy because they didn't make the playoffs.
We all know why people were pushing for Jeanty lol the same exact people rooted for Caitlin Clark. These people are usually casuals and aren’t rooting FOR Jeanty but against PrimeTime through Travis
Mfs dont likd jeanty cause he wasnt coached by Dion period
This is a crazy comment. Jeanty was the chosen black knight bc they couldn’t hate on Deion anymore bc he had a good season.
@@tyreek.6815we have to stop talking crap about Jeanty. That’s a crab in the barrel type attitude. I am sick of black people downing another brother. That’s just what they want.
I don't like all this hype around him cause everyone said he was going to destroy Barry's record. Played more games and still 130 yards short. Y'all need to chill out my guy 😭
As far as being robbed, I think it should’ve been a co-winner
No
The better player won
@@yrnsheik4451 ok they still had an amazing season and I think it could’ve been shared between the two
Ya'll trippin'
Hunter wasn't a Top 5 performer at either position.
I can almost guarantee you that this comment will get little to no traction because you are the exact example of a hater and jealousy these vets are discussing. Travis in fact was the defensive player of the year and easily in the top 10 as a receiver. That’s unheard of to be elite on both ends out of all D1 players in the nation. You are a 🤡
U smoking
You might not believe Jeanty was robbed, but imo Nick Nash unequivocally was robbed of the biletnikoff. Led the nation in receiving yards, catches, and TDs. THAT award is purely based on your work as a receiver. So Travis playing DB should have zero impact on whi wins that award. Idk how a guy gets the triple crown as a receiver and doesn't get the NCAA best award for receivers.
Travis wasn’t the only target. CU had atleast two other receivers could have stats to Nash if they were the sole focus
Jeanty definitely got robbed
U smoking bad drugs