Alistair Begg Encourages Christians To Celebrate LGBTQ "Weddings"
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Alistair Begg Encourages Christians To Celebrate LGBTQ "Weddings"
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Attending an unrighteous ceremony is the epitome of communicating countenance of it. We, as believers redeemed by the blood of the Lamb, absolutely cannot participate in any celebration of sin. 💜✝️💜
Excellent commentary, Tim!👍🏻
AMEN !
I pray you don't have children who are LGBTQ and would invite you to their wedding ceremony. You don't deserve to go.
Do you attend second marriage weddings?? Be consistent!!
@@davidhemphill3735 The wedding ceremony is ordained by God and is between one man and one woman. This is not a wedding and an openly sinful expression of sin.
I'm not judging hearts with regards to marriage ceremonies, but this isn't that.
And, marriage is still an ordained covenant even if it's between an unbelieving male and female.
So, kudos for your silly comment. 🤨
Yes I know it is. And I am wondering if you attend second marriage weddings? Divorced people re-marrying? Consistency of course.@@arclemons1967
One of my coworkers asked me to coffee & then shared the Gospel with me 25 years ago. He knew I was partying at bars, but he didn’t have to go there with me to know I needed Jesus. He didn’t have to compromise his own beliefs to share God’s love with me. Praise God❤
I’m sure you wouldn’t have listened to a guy that was partying with you.
Faith ,Hope Love the greatest of these is love. Leave Alistair Begg alone he is a godly man .
When going to someone's wedding, I've always heard the pastor say that as witnesses, we are showing our support for this marriage & will continue to help this marriage to thrive. How can you support a wedding but not the marriage??? You can't "celebrate" loved ones sinning.
Well said
Just because the pastor asks doesn't mean you have to answer...be careful of driving a wedge between yourself and somebody who desperately needs to hear the message God has given you to share...this is the point Pastor Begg was making.
@@jeremyelford7926 disagree. A wedding is not the place. Read Mathew 10:34-39. The Lord Jesus is very clear, there will be conflict. So when it happens who is first Christ vs others?. Listen to Do Not Love by Voddie Bachman on Ligonier Ministries, he biblically teaches on this. It is never loving to lie and deceive people.
@@loiscarteaux9389 to whom are lying, or being deceitful? And not ever did I mention that there would be an absence of conflict. Do I seem like the kind of person who would choose others over Christ?
@@jeremyelford7926 Pastor Begg was compromising, he gave Unbiblical counsel to the grand mother. There already is a wedge there, light and darkness do not mix. It does not mean you are nasty about it but she can share the gospel and the truth of why she cannot attend. Begging compromised. Listen to Voddie who is biblically sound
Well said. Totally in agreement with you on this Tim. I have a homosexual son. He knows that I love him, we communicate often, and he also knows the scripture and where I stand on it, and that I would not affirm any kind of union or ceremony. I think that only heightens the respect for the word of God as well as my commitment to the Lord. It would not diminish, my love for him.
I agree….
You're handling it correctly and loving your son the way a Christian should. I hope your son repents and comes to know the Lord.
"Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged, for the Lord your God will be with you wherever you go." Jos 1:9
May our Lord save your son in Jesus mighty name for the glory of God! Amen and Amen
I'm sorry for you and your son. It must be very difficult. Praying that God will open his eyes and heart and comfort and guide you
My wife pretty much lost her whole side of the family because we did not attend a gay wedding.
How could we possibly go if marriage is an analogy of Christ and his church.
They were wise to get rid of you
@@inYTbio_SiteLINKs2Verses_Bruv every word will be held in account. God bless
@@cscutler And so will every misguided action. God forgive you for the reproach you brought His Name.
@@inYTbio_SiteLINKs2Verses_Bruv you are certainly mistaken with this issue. The Leaven of the age has comprised your vision.
@@cscutler Let me tell you a little story...
I'm in ministry. A few years back I was asked by a sweet little lady if she should go to the wedding of her lesbian daughter because she didn't want to sin against God. I told her yes, having written about this issue before when it was presented to me.
She went and afterward wrote me how it was one of the wisest things she did. She said when her daughter first saw her, she broke down in tears because she thought her mother wouldn't come. The mother said she felt no compromise in the spirit or of her faith. She said when her daughter first came out to her, there was a closeness that was gone, until that moment she went to this marriage. She said she felt she got her daughter back and thanked God for it. Two people were blessed that day. The daughter for the rest of her life will remember her Godly mother going to this important occasion, and she will think of the God of her mother because of it. On gay social media, I have seen account after account of gay men and women who invited their parents to their wedding and the parents didn't go because of the advice given to them like the one in the video above. The fruit of it was hurt, bitterness, parents feeling justified in their self-righteousness, and a hate of the God of the parents who made them unloving to their child. You will know a thing by its fruit.
I pray you see the error of what you speak.
"Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household” (Matthew 10:34-36).
Thank you for the precisely correct scripture... "I'd rather seek the favor of God and suffer the judgment of man, than seek the favor of man and suffer the judgment of God.... "
I didn't go to my son's marriage to his partner, and now he wants nothing to do with me...I will continue to pray for both of them.
I'm sorry that you need a prayer more than your son. Hypocrites wash the cup outside because there are 613 holy commandments of God. Don't get me wrong, i personally hate homosexuality but who am i to judge other sinners? The difference is that i am a repenting sinner working my salvation with trembling and fear. Only God is the righteous judge. All will be standing before Him naked, answering for all we did in this life.
@ishmaelmosehle2763 I don't need a prayer.....My son and his partner do.
You made the right decision Robert.
@@robertburns9596 if he’s a believer read to him Leviticus 18:22
I am sorry. That must be hard but God can use it! Keep praying. xoxo
Tragic loss of direction. The gospel isn't to build bridges to accommodate those who Jesus said are going through the wide gate of destruction. The grandmother is part of the bride of Christ and must avoid all appearance of validating anything contrary to the teachings of Christ. She would likely be slandered for refusing to go but Jesus said love me more than any other person. I hope Alistair Begg realizes that Christ came to save souls not our feelings or worldly appetites.
Begg wasn't saying build bridges to affirm, but build bridges to hopefully rescue people.
@@jeffbengs910 I disagree with you and Begg. The whole point of attending a Wedding service is to celebrate the union of the two being Married. There’s better God honoring ways to show love towards them.
@@jeffbengs910
Jesus said "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfil." Mathew 5:7
Need to love truth and be saved and be on guard from the powerful delusion that God allows so the wicked and lawless will believe the lie.
2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
I think the appearance thing is invalid. She said she told them point blank their "marriage" was sinful and wrong so I am not sure mere attendance is now some type of validation. We can't judge someone that attended a wedding in this type of scenario to keep some relationship or communication open with her grandson. Bottom line she gave them the truth and it is personal conviction with she thinks she has liberty to attend or not.
Did Jesus and the apostles curry favor with the unregenerate and worry about being called "critical and judgmental"? They preached the truth and made no apologies for hurt feelings.
The example was a man marrying a trans woman.
Isn't the truth that a man should marry a woman? A trans woman is a woman. The fact this fallen world gave her a male body is not her fault. She is overcoming this world by declaring who God truly made her. Would you have her conform to this world instead?
So when you call a person, please do not speak to their genitals or DNA. Speak to the person. For a trans person that's not their body.
No, and neither is Alistair Begg...
You’re analogy of abortion and alcoholics is very apt and perfect. Of course we are critical and judgmental of a sinful, anti-God ceremony - how can Alistair end by saying “we show others that Jesus is king and build bridges“ with those who oppose God’s word and precepts- we need to speak truth not affirm and celebrate sin that leads to damnation and hell.
@@roseannevau6573 How is a wedding between a man and woman anti-God?
Jesus was ALL about LOVE.
Love heals and brings people to faith.
Judgement destroys faith.
In fact pushing the law when it hurts people is the very "yeast of the Pharisees" Jesus warned us against.
@@r-platt I know a lot of people today are wanting to believe that gay marriage is about love, and that Jesus would want an accept love in all situations, but that’s not what he said in his word, and it’s not what the Bible says in many places. The main thing I would say to you is to go to Jesus in His word and go to him in prayer, and just sincerely try to communicate with Him and follow him and learn about Him every day. But, start in His word and prayer and end in His word.
Just remember that Alistair did a video a few years back parting ways with JMac because he defied government orders to keep the church closed. That was way worse than this, as bad as this is. I lost interest in Alistair at that point as I did many pastors who didn’t follow the Bible but tyranny.
I wasn’t aware of this. Got a link?
I wasn’t aware of parkside church shutting down for how long? Do you have a link? Also a link to him saying yes to woman pastors. Please
Thanks for letting me know... never heard that one
@@jackgtx440not off hand as it’s been a few years. It’s when JMac said he was on an island because not even his friends called to offer support. Because they disagreed with his position
@@lindaw2418Who said anything about him saying Yes to women pastors? I’ve never heard him say that and don’t believe he has.
This is why we need to obey the Word and our conscience, not any man.
how should we exactly obey the wrod? Jesus ate with sinners and didn't worry about what others thought. Is that what we should do? Spread the gospel by being salt and light? Not worrying about Pharisees yaking about "sinners" being unclean?
@@davidhemphill3735Eating and drinking is not a sin forbidden by God. He set the parameters of what a marriage is. Tell me you don't see the difference. Grandma isn't going there to preach the Gospel. That's the biggest copu out to the culture ever.
Well that is what I would do. Go sit with the sinners, eat and drink with those who need to find Jesus, a new spiritual geography so to speak. You do you and I will do me. @@jerilowehowell6015
Oh no! Oh dear, I have listened to him a long time but not the last 6 months, and now this? My thought on this is that no Christian should attend a wedding where those being married are a not of a male and a female being joined in holy union, as God decrees. Alistair Begg’s reply to a parishioner’ concerned question only served to undermine the word of God as well as putting the woman into a personally uncomfortable position.
Agreed. There are OTHER ways we can demonstrate love to individuals committed to this lifestyle.
@@beerobb8220 Yes, by witnessing to them and praying for them. Only God knows who are his, vessels for honour while others are not. But what we do have is the word of God and we must love our neighbour as ourselves while admonishing that which is abhorrent to God. It takes faith in our Lord Jesus to walk his walk among sinners. Psalm.1 says what we must do and understand.
This is SO heartbreaking! I have been going to John MacArthur, John Piper, and Alistair materials to help in my bible studies.
They're dropping like flies. Stay strong in truth brothers and sisters.
So true 😢
Sad, but true
Affirmation of sin isn’t loving. He’s defining love by his own understanding rather than God’s set definition.
He is deafening it by a Gospel Coalition understanding
Good point on the “BUT” comment. Very good point you have brought up and I agree with you on your statement on this!
The interesting thing is , is that the bible states a marriage is between a woman and a man, so this situation wouldn’t even be a wedding. It would just be a sham, so why would a Christian be part of this?
More properly it would be an abomination!
1 Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
1 Corinthians 6:10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. ESV
That just seems off, out of character, very concerning. Pray for him.
Yeah, I think the statement is out of character, so maybe - weighing up what we know of him, we might give him the benefit of the doubt? I wonder if there's more to it than the clip we've all heard.
Jesus didn't hate people when he called out their sin. He called the sin SIN.
Thank you! This idea that somehow it's necessary to attend ceremonies offensive to God and engage in sin in order to be considered "loving" is a Satanic lie. So the grandchild had no idea his/her grandmother loved him or her? It was absolutely essential that she attend a ceremony and show approval for that which God condemns in His Word. .in order for him or her to know this?? Absurd.
God condemned Sofom n Gomorrah n now He has " changed" His mind? I don't think so!
He did NOT in any way condone or tell her to condone the ceremony. I believe Jesus ate with sinners without condoning their sin. This video and the commenters sound more like Pharisees than humble Christians. And I am a conservative Christian.
@@margrose5 And what did Christ do there? Preach the Truth. Let's not pretend this is the same thing. Eating and drinking is not a sin and grandma isn't going to be preaching anything. If her family know she is against this, going will look like what it is...capitulation to the culture and approval.
Since God invented marriage, and since a wedding kicks off a marriage, it is really an offense against God to attend such a wedding. The grandma could tell each party that she dearly loves and cares for them. But go to the wedding, no.
Genesis 2:24 clearly sets out the union of a “man and woman”
He is telling the grandmother to BE A WITNESS at a sinful event!
WWJD!
The grandson ALREADY KNOWS!!! Jesus didn’t have to watch a prostitute in action in order to “witness” to her!!! Jesus calls us to Him…either we answer or we don’t! You are deceived!
@@deandalley3607Jesus would rebuke the perverted homosexuals and tell them that they mock God the Father and are storing up wrath for themselves if they do not repent of their sins and follow Him! He would tell them that only He can satisfy their desires and that them trying to gratify their flesh will lead to their destruction! He would warn them…because that is what love does! Love does not affirm sin!
We who follow Jesus need to STOP using the language of Satan!!! Call Homosexuals what they are…”they” are not this made up term”transgender” because it doesn’t exist! A pedophile is NOT a “minor-attracted-person”, etc. Until and unless we who follow Christ start speaking as the Bible speaks, NOTHING should shock anyone. We must stop playing by Satan’s rule book!!! Wake up!!!
@deandalley3607 not go to the celebration.
Hypothetical scenario:
Lot's son has come out as h*m*s*x*al and informs his family that he is marrying his partner. Would Jesus go and partake in that celebration with Lot, his family and friends?
Can the answer be any more obvious???
So should we??
I never thought for one moment he would say that. I am heartbroken.😢
This is unfortunate. We cannot celebrate sin, which means don't go to wedding. Becket Cook is former homosexual. He covers all of this topic weekly on his UA-cam channel. He is very biblical. His book ,"A change of Affection" is fantastic. He is a must follow if you questions on how the bible addresses all things related to our secular culture.
Yes, he may have a comment or two to say about this....
Every Thursday I watch his video.. Becket Cook.. I'm sure he will address this....Am not surprised that Alistair went against scripture here..Have listened to him for a long time and their were other sermons where he had twisted God's word for his own veiws...Have backed-off watching him because of this.. So many pastors and leaders of fellowships are caving-in to the culture of the world system...Need to pray for him and the congregation... Bugsy
I'm praying for Alistair Begg . This is so very sad news.
I will pray that our Lord Jesus Christ appears to you and explains what Alistair Begg did. So we don't end up being rebuked by GOD just as he did JOB'S 3 friends.
@@westerngirl2233Would you attend a gay wedding?
@TwentyTwoThirtyThree if the person inviting me knows I am a Christian and what my religion implies. Especially
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous1 will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: xneither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,2 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. . YES. I WOULD GO. Do you know who are REVILERS, SWINDLERS, GREEDY ETC.ETC. because there's not one GOOD.
Matthew 5: 20
For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
@@westerngirl2233 Wrong.
@@TwentyTwoThirtyThree No worries brother. You can tell me and Alistair and whoever else they are wrong. Because Unless My righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees I will never enter his kingdom. Today Christians are a higher percentage of the population than gays. Many are called but few are chosen. I really hope that you are on the few , side. Unless the word is wrong most of us will not be safe. Just as the word says. Otherwise I will be saying the word is WRONG. Hopefully the Alistair prays for me. Just like JOB had to do for his 3 WISE friends.
Therefore take unto you now seven bullocks and seven rams, and go to My servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering. And My servant Job shall pray for you; for him will I accept, lest I deal with you after your folly in that ye have not spoken of Me the thing which is right, like My servant Job.
Im surprised Allister Begg would say that! Im sad too. I dont agree with his stance. This has done dammage to the Church.
I'm as disappointed as anyone with this. But one mans opinion can not damage the church. All a person's opinion can do to the church is show wether or not they're a part of it.
I think heterosexual sin and godless "Christian" marriages have done far, far more damage to the church.
WHAT is this????
Alistair Begg encourages LGBTQ????
Oh, what is going on. Is this the Falling Away Jesus told us about??
Yes it is. 💔
No, he's saying the Grandmother, whose opinion about the situation, her grandson is aware of, should go to show them love and keep the door open so that he will repent. Begg never encouraged LGBTQ-ness.
@@jeffbengs910when the 'love' for others trumps a righteous fear of God's holiness, that's a problem right there.
@@SheFollowsJesus you have declared it, so it must be true...
What if every Christian were to attend "weddings" of every relative that was LGBT and bring a gift; thus sending a mixed message? Usually a gift means, "I agree with what you are doing and wish you well on your endeavour"
I hope Grandma didn’t follow his terrible advice.
I think he made the whole story up
@@ritaschultz6859to illustrate his position on this subject. That's the main issue at hand.
@@jacko4483 he made it all up
@@jacko4483 that the churches are falling away
And the Lord is revealing
The phonies , because he is calling the people out
All of you sitting in judgment on Alistair Begg...I hope you all have your facts straight. I guarantee you that he does. Perhaps his track record with regards to delivering the unvarnished Word of God affords him the right to further examination by discerning minds, rather than snap decisions by people with no more investment in the situation than watching a biased, nuanced UA-cam video...
If Alistair Begg teaches a gospel that is contrary to the one delivered once for all to the saints, let him be accursed. I believe he would be the first to tell you that....
Thank you so much for bringing this to Light and analyzing it so thoroughly. What a grave disappointment Begg's statement is! The issue is serious enough that if he doesn't repent soon, it will impact his heretofore faithful ministry. A couple, dear friends of mine, dealt with this situation a few years ago. In talking and praying with my friend, who was understandingly distraught, I suggested that she and her husband not attend because that would lend credence and acceptance or blessing of the union. She agreed. "But affirm to your loved one that your love for him will never falter and that you will continue to pray for him and the other young man, that they will repent and come into right relationship with Christ. My question is this: Why would someone even want guests at the ceremony who would be grieving and hurting so deeply with every word that was spoken. Any tears that fell would be bitter ones, not celebratory. Like you, brother, I hope grandma did NOT take Begg's advice.
That’s shocking and sad if true. I really admire him. He’s been solid.
It is his statement, and sounds as if he were on a Moody Radio program, though it might have been one from AFR. So, it is undoubtedly true.
I heard the audio so it is true
@maxboucher86 maybe it's AI pretending to be Pastor Begg lol.
@@nancybryson5488
It is not.
@@jayt9608 The great falling away. Just never expected it from Alistair Begg. Although there were signs. My husband and I noticed a few things that would raise our eyebrows in some of his sermons. Specially his repeating reference to The Beatles and other worldy songs/lyrics during sermons. It slowly begins to add up. Praying for Alistair.
He put this out publicly, and thus needs to be rebuked publicly. (Gal 2:11-14)
Also, he needs to apologize and repent publicly.
Excellent point
I am a faith partner with Truth for Life, and might just cancel. It is so sad because Allistair was the very first Pastor I have been listening for almost 6 years now. He is also the one that encouraged me to attend local Church after I left the Catholic Church 13 years ago. Let us pray that he will repent. Thank you Tim for airing this. May our Lord continue to bless you and guide you as served his Kingdom 🙏
If he does not repent soon I believe you should cancel and you should specifically contact them and tell them why you are canceling. This is gravely serious.
@@conceptualclarity What did Jesus say about eating with sinners?
This narrative is told in Matthew 9:10-17, Mark 2:15-22, and Luke 5:29-39.[1]
The Pharisee rebuke Jesus for eating with sinners, to which Jesus responds, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick."
Jesus eats with sinners and publicans by Alexandre Bida
The narrative primarily shows Jesus' emphasis on mercy as opposed to self-righteous judgment.
@@edwardmac7542 there is nothing inherently sinful about meals. Gay Mirage is inherently sinful.
For you to characterize refusal to partake in sin as inherently self-righteous is unsupportable in logic and in Scripture.
Many Christians misinterpret Matthew 7:1-5, it is teaching Christians to not judge hypocritically, it's not teaching Christians to not judge. :)
Matthew 7:1 “Judge not, that you be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.
Mat 7:3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?
Mat 7:4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye?
Mat 7:5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
Christians are to judge righteous judgement. :)
John 7:24 Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”
Jesus said there are many false teachers, if we don't judge their lives and what they preach how will we know whether they are true or false??
@@edwardmac7542Did Jesus attend a baptism into a false religion or a communion into a sinful lifestyle. Marriage is an institution created by God from the beginning. To mock that institution by trying to join two men or two women is sacrilege. It is legitimizing a lifestyle of a sin that damages both the soul and the body.
Grandma can invite these two over for dinner after the wedding to show them love. Love is not making someone feel good, but rejoicing in the truth and keeping His commandments.
I had been in the charismatic/ pentecostal/ word of faith movement for many years, which I got out of and I started listening to Allister Begg not too long ago he seemed to have sound sermons that I've listened to. I'm sorry that he thinks this way. It's very sad for him. I feel sorry for the woman he counseled with. Hopefully, she didn't take his advice.
Many Christians misinterpret Matthew 7:1-5, it is teaching Christians to not judge hypocritically, it's not teaching Christians to not judge. :)
Matthew 7:1 “Judge not, that you be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.
Mat 7:3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?
Mat 7:4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye?
Mat 7:5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
Christians are to judge righteous judgement. :)
John 7:24 Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”
Jesus said there are many false teachers, if we don't judge their lives and what they preach how will we know whether they are true or false??
Exactly... those who live in 'rebellion' love to quote Matt 7:1... even many who claim to be part of God's Church... sadly, claiming something doesn't make it so... God knows His own and very capable of piercing the heart, separating Truth from lies... even lies many think are well hidden.
@@RobertWilliam-yu8gi
He totally made that story up !
@@ritaschultz6859Really? Why did he do that? I saw another comment that said the same as you.
@@karrs7032 haha how funny thanks for your post
Tim, I could not agree more with your take on this issue. It’s one thing to want to counter the multitudinous haters out there in “Christian” circles, but affirming sin is not loving. I had a friend years ago, a man I worked with, who was an open homosexual. He was a lovely man and I liked him, and for whatever reason, he liked me, too. He let me preach to him, which I did often. But I wouldn’t have attended parties at his house, and when he was dying I gave him a tape of Christian music I had sung for him to listen to as he lay sick. I wasn’t able to be with him when he was sick, but I did what I had at hand and in my heart at the time. If marriage had been legal then and he had invited me to attend his wedding, I would have declined, and he would have understood, and in all likelihood respected me for being true to my convictions. This is what I consider one of the big hills to die on, that of planting your flag for the Name and Honor of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, who himself affirmed marriage in Matthew 19. IMHO, they have, at the behest of the lord they serve whether they realize it or not, invaded the church and demanded recognition and acceptance in no way for love of Christ or repentance for sin, but to invade and destroy the church from within. Having said all that, I can’t begin to express how Alastair’s words saddened and grieved me.
So don't affirm the sin...is anyone asking you to affirm a sin?
By being at the wedding you are condoning sin. You are in support of the marriage. Which isn't marriage as GOD defined it. Have dinner with them. Don't encourage this.
attending a grand child's "wwedding" is not affirming sin. Our lives and our past conversations would attest to that. Building bridges with family members is what she is doing.
jeremy and david, please listen to John Piper’s recent response to begg. it’s very biblical.
Another reason to be shepherded by the Good Shepherd ONLY!
Begg's logic is ridiculous.
We cannot hate,but we dont except this culture.
I don’t believe that Pastor MacArthur will have the luxury of waiting until AFTER the Shepherds’ Comference to address, publicly, this matter. 5000 pastors from around the world will be attending that Conference and will ‘want’ to be and perhaps ‘need’ to be shepherded through this dilemma. May God grant Alistair a spirit of contrition and repentance and a spirit of wisdom to the Shepherds Conference leaders.
No he absolutely cannot wait until after that, he absolutely cannot allow this man to speak at his conference without repentance
McArthur is another wolf in sheep’s clothing. He has no business calling anyone out. He covered up child sexual abuse in his congregation for decades, and he needs to repent.
@@conceptualclarityIf Begg is allowed to participate at the SC, It would also be appropriate for him to address this issue before the assembly.
I sent a message on Parkside Church's website telling then how shocked I was that Pastor Begg would give such advice because his teaching has always been so Biblically sound. I've been listening to him since the late 80's. I told them that I was praying for the Elders to confront Pastor Begg's sinful stance and for the Holy Spirit to lead him to repentance. I have not received a reply.
I agree: It's more disturbing because it was a well thought out decision by Alastair. I'm very concerned for him. He needs prayers. Thank you for posting this. God bless you too, sir.
❤
You are mistaken. Read the passage below. Understand what Jesus did. Understand what Jesus said. I believe Alister Begg gave this Grandmother advice like what Jesus would give her.
_"As Jesus passed on from there, he saw a man called Matthew sitting at the tax booth, and he said to him, “Follow me.” And he rose and followed him. And as Jesus reclined at table in the house, behold, many tax collectors and sinners came and were reclining with Jesus and his disciples. And when the Pharisees saw this, they said to his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?” But when he heard it, he said, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. Go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.’ For I came not to call the righteous, but sinners.”_
- Matthew 9.9 - 13 (ESV)
@rubiks6 this passage you posted does not correspond to what AB said. Alister Begg created confusion by stating the grandmother should go to the wedding celebrate and give a gift. Alister believes homosexuality and transgenderism is sin, yet tells the grandmother to go and celebrate a marriage that is sinful and no marriage at all. And when Jesus ate with the sinners and tax collectors he was not celebrating their behavior, he was calling them to repentance. The grandmother was not advised to go to the wedding to call her grandson to repentance, but to celebrate the event. You don't understand that passage very well. Your interpretation makes Jesus condone sin.
@@mariosangermano Thankyou - I could not have said it better.
@@gretashepherd770 you're welcome. Unfortunately many Christians don't understand scripture passages because they don't understand context, or the setting of a passage, so they unwittingly conflate issues.
He's been one of my favorites. Sad
BTWN, thank you for your comments and standing for the truth of God’s word. I agree with what you said 100%.
Now I know who not to go to for biblical advice… thanks Alistair for showing us how you think. We don’t chum up with evil.
Hmmm, you say you won't chum up with evil but I wonder if you support Trump.
@@JohnJones-qy5ko And do you support Biden who supports what God has called evil: abortion, LGBTQ "rights", grooming children, etc...?
Very surprising and very sad. Unfortunately, we may see more of this as the world is turning into distinctly different camps and people seem to be falling for the world views. I think it was handled very well in this video - gently, kindly and respectfully but firm positionally. Thank you.
Before Alistair Begg was Max Lucado in his apology letter, February 2021........ Slowly the Scripture teachings and those that have stood for them are being eroded bit by bit by bit............this is only the beginning. To read Max Lucado's apology do an online search related to the National Cathedral Backlash......
Oh good did Max L apologize? I didn’t know that.
@@lindaw2418 I suggest you do an online search to read the apology regarding comments Max made that were deemed hurtful to the homosexual community after the National Cathedral Backlash.....
@@lindaw2418neither did I
Max Lucado really went bad when he joined the never- Trumper movement and he has been praising rotten religious influencers of the Jen Hatmaker variety. I don't know him well enough to know if the roots of it were prior to that but he hasn't been solid since 2016, that's clear
by attending any wedding....you are confirming you agree with their wedding bliss, as husband and wife. As a true christian you cannot and should not attend, same sex so called marriages, or you are affirming their union. This is sad news......truly is.
I've gone to plenty of weddings where I knew it was highly unlikely to make the three year anniversary.
true and agree
So this is what the falling away looks like. Hopefully, grandma will follow what she knows to be true.
True is doing what Jesus did - eating with sinners and loving them into the kingdom through our life and our words of life.
If it's true, he is not doing them any favors. The penalty for sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord Roman's 6:23
This is truly shocking and very sad. Alistair needs all of our prayers. Pray that he will repent.
Repent from what? Telling a Grandma she did well to directly confront and condemn her grandchild's sinful conduct? But tell her she could consider attending the sham civil ceremony of a wedding for purposes of maintaining some relationship with them? Where is the sin to repent from? If grandma attends the ceremony what his her sin? Homosexuality? She didn't commit that sin. Sin of "blessing" the "marriage?" She told them she didn't approve. So Alistair's and grandma's sin is that someone might mistakenly think she approved of the sin of homosexuality by her mere attendance. Just like the religious leaders condemned Jesus for dining with sinners because someone might associate Jesus with sin and sinners. I am not sure that is a sin if someone else mistakenly thinks you approve of something you don't. Especially when both Alistair and Grandma have condemned homosexual conduct and have held firmly to the Biblical definition of marriage. It is personal conviction about attending the ceremony or not.
Repent of loving a grand child enough to be uncomfortable in a "wedding"? How about being the salt and light by living out your faith and convictions and loving him at the same time? YOu can do both!
For me to work out my salvation with fear and trembling is to try and grasp the absolute terror and soul destroying brilliant holiness of Gods Righteous Majesty. It is only because of the immeasurable power of Christ's atoning sacrifice that I can participate in this divine nature.
"No one can see me, and live."
That is a most terrifying statement that speaks of the absolute righteous purity of God.
So, in my opinion, to muddy (pollute) the waters with such precarious words as his regarding attending this wedding, is not an example of working out ones salvation with fear and trembling.
This is very dangerous ground.
His silence now is another red flag to me. Damage is already done. Heretics and alphabet crowd run with his statement and meanwhile members of the body of Christ being attacked. Alistair stays silent. Reminds me of a Bible verse.. It is very telling. Im heart broken over this.
I would hope Pastor John and Pastor Voddie wouldn't wait until after the Shepherds Conference to address this. This is so egregious it must be addressed immediately!
Yes, but also if any Christian has a say, even the softest truth voice should be heeded. Thanks for saying, Selina.
We have to remember that going to a wedding means you as a community and individual are coming beside the couple to support the success, pray for and give accountability to the couple.
This hurts 😢
❤
Popular pastor let us down…Lord help him!
My son is living with his girlfriend. This is no different. If i support them in this than i am walking the same line as Alastair. If i dont stand they will see im along with them in the sin. I am repenting right now. If we dont stand against sin we are lieing down with it. And they will be lost. Truth is love
1 Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
1 Corinthians 6:10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. ESV
Wow, I listen to Alistair every day, love him, have trusted him, but this proves that even the elect can be deceived. Sooooo Sad!!
A more proper judgement is that he may be a wolf in cheeps clothing.
1Co 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
1Co 6:10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. ESV
@@RobertWilliam-yu8giAlthough I do agree that can be the case, I don't see many other places in his teaching that would indicate he is a wolf....unless maybe I just haven't seen it.
@@RobertWilliam-yu8gi Stop it. I have news for you, you don't have it all right. Nobody does. Don't go straight to calling people wolves because they made a bad call. We are all fallible.
I agree with Allistair! He's talking to a Grandmother about her grandchild. Pastor Begg doesn't say for all of us to go to LGBT weddings Lavishing the couple with gifts. He's speaking to a woman who has most likely been an ambassador for Jesus this guy's entire life. There's a relationship to protect. How could she turn her back on this day and expect to maintain a close relationship?
The baker in Colorado has more conviction!
the text saying he "celebrates lgbt weddings" is dishonest and misleading. What Alistair said is it may be a better witness to attend the wedding of that kind when it's your loved one or family member who may otherwise judge you for your cold stance and legalistic appearance. BIG difference.
I don't think there is anything misrepresented here. Alistair suggested buying a gift and going. That is celebrating.
No misrepresentation. Attending a wedding and buying a gift for the union is every way celebrating. Now I don't believe Begg celebrates homosexuality, but he clearly is endorsing the celebrating of a gay wedding in order to be acceptable to the world.
We look like that to them anyway. How many people have screamed about having the Bible shoved down their throats because someone has a Scripture verse on their cubicle wall? Jesus would NOT attend that wedding.
Never EVER did I think , I am Shocked !!! Very SAD for Parkside Congregation.Breaks my heart as well and I pray that Alistair and John Mac have a conversation!
He spoke at The Master’s College in the early 90’s. I am shocked he has taken this position.
Hi Tim, of all the years I have listened to your videos, this video has been the best for me in terms of your comments. Very solid and common sense comments.
Congratulations.👏👏👏 I hope many people watch your video. And let us pray🙏 for Alistair Begg and also for Andy Stanley.
What did Jesus say about eating with sinners?
This narrative is told in Matthew 9:10-17, Mark 2:15-22, and Luke 5:29-39.[1]
The Pharisee rebuke Jesus for eating with sinners, to which Jesus responds, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick."
Jesus eats with sinners and publicans by Alexandre Bida
The narrative primarily shows Jesus' emphasis on mercy as opposed to self-righteous judgment.
Pastor John needs to remove him from Sheppard's Conference "Now"...How sad !!!!
Or they need to call him to repentance on the spot.
Believers need to stop subscribing to the de celebrity devils. McArthur covered up child sexual abuse in his church for decades. He needs to be removed.
What if they don't disagree with what he said?
McArthur covered up abuse in his church for decades. He needs to repent and be removed from the pastorate.
I have been listening to Alistair Begg nearly every day for over 10 years and I know him to be a very conservative expositor of the Word of God. I know that he is not capitulating to those who don’t have a high regard for Scripture. I think what Alistair is saying is that we can hold on to our Biblical beliefs without burning a relational bridge over which the Gospel might one day travel. Paul gives us guidance in these matters in 1 Cor. 5.9-10, “I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people-not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world …. , since then you would need to go out of this world…” One of the most frequent criticisms directed toward Jesus by the religious hall monitors of His day was that He was a friend of sinners. Do you think Jesus only became their friend after their repentance? If that were the case, the accusation would make no sense. Today, the people of the world must meet Jesus through His people, and we must learn how to reach them without compromising the Word. I think this was the intent of Alistair Begg’s comments on this modern day challenge for followers of Christ.
I have long said that 'only' accept as true what I see ...written... in the Bible.
I've always thought of Alistair Begg as a solid minister but in this case he is rationalizing. You can rationalize anything if you're creative enough.
Is rationalizing a sin? Equivocation can be, but rationalization?
@@jeremyelford7926 The ability to rationalize is a valuable skill ...but when the sign says don't stick your fingers in the lion's cage it's best to just follow orders.
@@awaitingthetrumpetcall4529 what "orders" do you feel Alistair is disregarding?
@@jeremyelford7926 wrote _"what "orders" do you feel Alistair is disregarding?"_
Wow...
As a born again believer in Jesus Christ I want to take all steps to insure that I'm not left behind when the tribulation judgement begins.
There is an almost 2,000 year old prophecy that says the day is coming when you'll have to have a 'mark' in your right hand or your forehead in order to buy or sell.
In the 70's I thought people would have to be branded like cattle but that was because the technology was not invented yet. When the globalists talk about the 'great reset' it means they intend to collapse the global economy and replace cash with a digital monetary system. A bio metric device or implant will allow you to tap your hand or scan your forehead.
The problem in a digital system is that you will be tracked so you'll have to be obedient or they'll turn off your account.
The elites also plan '15 minute cities' where everything will be within fifteen minutes of where you live. A digital system insures that you won't try to leave.
@@jeremyelford7926That God has made man and women to be joined together in marriage. Anything else is an abomination, and to attend that would be disgraceful for a Christian to do.
I agree with Alistair Begg, and his charge to be loving and work out our own faith, in our submission to teh Holy Spirit.
I believe Pastor Begg was trying to keep the peace in the family. I believe he should have counseled that she should have perhaps sent a gift to show love for her grandson, but explain she couldn't go against her faith. Compassion is more important than judgment.
The ONLY TIME that we should be engaging with Sinners, is when we are trying to bring them to Christ. The Bible says, in 2 Corinthians 6:17: "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you."
Voddie Bachman preached Do Not Love the World sermon on Ligonier Ministries. Powerful, truthful addressed this issue. Thanks Tim for sharing this. May many call Alistair to repent.
Regarding this matter Church discipline needs to be implemented.
Ironically Ligonier is extremely woke now. Hence the whole thing where Phil Johnson and Al Mohler infamously had words on the stage a few years ago.
@SimpleManGuitars1973 Al Mohler is no longer with Ligonier. Hasnt been for several years. What makes them woke?
@@restfulheart1328 Go watch Ligon talk to Phil Johnson infamously trying to sell the "social justice" nonsense. It's a very famous moment from Shepherd's Con in 2019.
thank you for pointing out V Bachman's sermon on this topic. I will be sure to check it out.
Alistair is part of the Gospel Coalition, has shared a stage with Beth Moore and said women can teach in the sanctuary if the leadership allows it. He is unfit. A little leaven, people. If JMac doesn't uninvited him to the conference, he's just as bad.
Interesting
Right. Guess you definitely have the right to cast the first stone at MacArthur. I don’t even think Begg has been to his church in a while.
It’s hilarious how so many “Christian’s” are quick to bash someone and criticize someone, even in the hypothetical toward someone like MacArthur. When they themselves likely don’t do ANYTHING for the gospel of Christ. They don’t go witness to people. Don’t do jail ministries. They go to church on Sunday and that’s it.
“You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.” - JESUS
Yes. He has an article entitled The Place and Posture of Christian Women - Part Two
He affirms there restrictions upon women's role but then he speaks of him and his elders choosing to have a woman in his pulpit to address the church (supposedly not as a teacher), although the Bible does clearly teach in 1 Corinthians 14 and 1 Timothy 2 that women are to keep silent in the church service, even that it is a shame for a woman to speak in church.
@@kvelez Yes; "interesting"... Though it would seem that if Allistar really did just say that, that he would be "off the set"; but realistically, if JMac or any others of the Ligonier Ministries / Gospel Colation did simply remove Allistair, that would probably "make the news" and be broadcasted all over the place; where in reality it ought to be something that should 'ave never been said by Allistari in the first place, and in the second place; shouldn't; if Allistar would be no longer part of the Gospel Coalition be made "the talk of the town". Yes; "but by the grace of God go I" and sin is sin and we all have sinned, but we're to be living in righteousness. I've done prison ministry and I'm still corresponding with incarcerated Veterans and there is all kinds of homogenized teachings that go on in there... Oh to hear the gospel clearly presented and lived out in our lives.
Post video to prove this
I want to cry after hearing this. Loved allistars teaching for years
This is unbelievable! My heart is also broken! Alistair Begg? I can hardly believe it!
Ikr? His teachings have always been so solid.
I am not going to "ditch" Alistair Begg. This is a very touchy subject for most people, and they have a difficult decision to make. Do we stay away from weddings and fellowship with gay members of the family, or do we lovingly tell them where we stand but still care about them? I have seen people do both, and I think it depends on the individual who is gay. Can we reach them if we shun them, or do we show them love and care; not acceptance of their lifestyle? I know we are not to yoke up with unbelievers, but we are to show the world the love of Jesus.
You're right, the clearer path is to always love people who sin, we all hate even our own sins of self righteousness and the secret pride that grabs us. We shun our own sin and not ourselves, then why practice hypocricy by shunning sinners and not their sin. Its amazing Jesus never pursued the religious who used scripture but went after the sinner to love them and win them...He would never have won anyone if he did what all these people say must be done, those who are judging Alister.
Well done Alister, it is you who is most like our previous and holy and righteous Lord Jesus.
I absolutely disagree with his response, however, I don't equate his telling this grandmother to attend her grandson's gay wedding with "LGBTQ comments." His response wasn't a treatise on the alphabet soup of LGBTQ... the title on this video makes that erroneous impression.
Hi, believers do not have the option for opinions..
@@merrittascott4408 Can't argue with that, but I see nothing but opinions in these comments. Alistair has a Biblical definition of marriage and condemns homosexuality. End of story.
@mmyers8765
Hi, at the pulpit I'm sure he's has . It's the conversation that he led the grandma and all that have heard it to participate in what is a blasphemous ceremony. Can you imagine the grandma if she attended? It would break her heart seeing this evil mockery of Holiness. It is disturbing cause it has sent a message to the LGBT that God does accept them. It has done alot of damage ,yet God is separating the wheat from the tares. God, Himself, is grieved. I noticed that Alistair did not use the word of God to guide her.
It is sad when ministers fail God knowingly .
Let us pray for Alistair Begg 🙏
Yes! Prayer is very much needed.
NO! Let us exercise Church discipline.
Either/or fallacy. You can do both.
What does the Bible say will happen in the last days?
Alistair did NOT say Christians should attend homosexual weddings. He gave an answer to this one caller for their situation.
And who was the audience? What is the take away for those listeners?
The only logical conclusion is Christians can go to gay weddings. & celebrate with a GIfT!
@@btwn Pastor John MacArthur said that it is not a sin for a Christian cake maker to make a cake for a gay wedding. He said this at the 2017 Ligonier Ministries Conference. It was surprising to hear John MacArthur from Grace To You, and Grace Community Church, say this. This is being reported on many UA-cam channels.
Thanks for sharing this news, Sir.
did you listen to what Alister actually said? just curious...heading was a bit mis leading...
@@tracyphipps9566 I agree with the Word of God (Yahweh). Also, I support pastors who teach biblical truth and who don't compromise or twist the Scriptures. However, It's been reported on various social media that Pastor J. MacArthur said and gave somewhat similar advice as Begg did. I am very disappointed with both Begg and MacArthur. I believe they both need to repent. TBT
Good. I've been praying that the Holy Spirit open the heart of Pastor Begg.
Slowly Christians are discovering trans people aren't the demons we've been made out to be.
They are discovering we represent the soul, not this fallen world. Rather than try to alter what God gave us, we alter what this world produced.
Even Paul beat his body into submission.
Hello BTWN News, (Sorry that I don't know your first name.). I am so amazed to be learning that Alistair has so badly compromised The Scriptures.... Yikes!!! I've never heard him speak live, but friends of mine have attended his lectures over at The Cove Retreat Center, in Asheville, N. C., which was founded by Billy Graham, who by the way, also was "Apostate" concerning the Lordship of Jesus concerning the basis for True Salvation, and what he stated about other religions who don't acknowledge Jesus as Saviour and Lord) and up to this moment I have had quite a bit of respect for Alistair...... but not now at all! He's supposed to be a great "Theologian" but obviously he's completely disregarding what our Brother Paul stated in Romans 1:16-32 concerning "the wrath of God being revealed against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men (and women) who by their unrighteousness suppress the Truth." As we know, Paul also wrote concerning the rise of "Apostasy" in these last days as Satan will deceive "as many as The Elect" as possible. I'm going to contact The Cove on Monday, and state my outrage at Begg's statements concerning homosexuality. As you probably know, The Pope recently made several similar statements concerning "Gay Unions." Homosexuals and Lesbians simply can't get married..... because their Uniuons are Satanically-based and not based on God's definition of Marriage. Last summer, Amy Grant welcomed her Lesbian Niece to use her and Vince's farm, here in the Franklin, TN area, for their wedding, and that action upset me just as much as Alistar's statements...... Oh well Gang........ just keep your seatbelts securely fastened, and keep your mind and heart totally fixated on The Scriptures....... all of them...!!! Ted Schempp, Nashville
The man with the goatee that hosts BTWN News' name is "Tim". I'm not sure as to the "why's" of Billy Graham and Andy Stanley, but it seems as though they've become so empathetic with violins playing on people's hearts that they humanistically so so want everyone to go to heaven that they'll say what they say to make it simpler than what it is to "believe" and simpler than what it is to "repent".
This is troubling. 😢
Does anyone know if Allister Begg responded to the backlash that has resulted from his controversial comments yet?
With there being 423 comments (as of now) posted, that's quite appropriate for you to say that, Namian, as if to ask Allistair, "did you really say that"?
Thank you Tim for posting this. I will be praying for this situation. I’m afraid that this will be quite a firestorm.
Do you think the firestorm is :
1. Good.
2. Necessary.
3. Wise.
4. Preventable.
5. Childish.
6. Over reaction.
7. People have been quick to speak rather than showing a slow to speak attitude.
8. Can AB lose his salvation over this stance.
9. Other.
Thanks.
Imagine if you (anyone reading this) came under this firestorm. Would you say it's a bit judgmental, a bit of coming across as if your perfect and your willing to without almost no hesitation, condemn a fellow believer for a perceived sin, when you (as we all are) are sinners and make mistakes every day. (I am not saying what he said was a mistake).
Romans 12:18
He didn’t simply endorse the wedding situation, and say GO the wedding. He first asked if the person getting married understood his grandmother’s Christian beliefs. To all she answered YES. If she’d said no, his answer would have been different. I do appreciate Alistair Beggs ministry greatly.
One of the biggest reasons people reject Jesus and the idea of Christianity is because of the rampant hypocrisies the world sees in those who confess the faith. Attending the ceremony, when people know you fundamentally disagree with it, shouts hypocrisy. G'ma can still show love to both grandson and the partner outside of the ceremony. That would speak louder and with more clarity than what Begg has recommended here. What he is saying will only breed more contempt for Christians, muddy the waters, and cause snowballing compromise. This kind of thing is what destroyed many denominations and what led to the seeker sensitive movement, among others. It's shameful.
I have a strong sense, that active counseling is being done behind the scenes for the correction of Alistair Begg. This is the proper way to approach a wayward brother. We'll wait and hopefully rejoice together afterwards.
He did not support the wedding. He is saying to treat people in your family with love. I would not however go to that service or buy a gift. But I understand what he is trying to do .
Don't just slam Alistair. His teaching is great. he wasn't 'encouraging. He was only answering about an individual case and explained it carefully. Who is there who gives wise counselling like Alistair? I will always value Alistairs teaching.
What? Did you listen to what he said? He encouraged her to go!
good point. I thought the same way initially but after thinking about and talking to other Christians about it, I feel it's wrong and unbiblical. Why because the LGBTQ A+ movement wants to add pedophiles to the list. This group will push to accept pedophilia. it's a very dangerous very slippery soap. And it's been going downhill since the 1960s. Watch Matt Walsh regarding trans surgeries on children and young adults. it's vile, it's disgusting it's pure evil. The trans ideology seeks to destroy children, boys and girls marriage and families.
If anything goes against God’s word we don’t compromise.
I don't believe Alistair's comment was affirming gay communion. He was speaking to an individual on one particular occasion. Did Jesus refuse to associate with the worst of sinners? Prostitutes etc. Jesus' loved the individual. The grandmother loved her grandson, but Alistair deliberately ask her if the grandson knew her strong beliefs. If she had answered no to those questions, I may be wrong, but I believe he would have given her different advice. If you out right ask Alistair if he affirmed gay weddings, there is NO doubt he would say NO. Some people see or take one comment and throw the whole man and his ministry to the dogs. The man loves God and His word! I will continue to support him and Truth for Life!
Alistair did nothing wrong. He didn't waiver on God's definition of marriage. So what, you all disagree with his logic of attending a gay wedding. How many of you have attended a godless heterosexual wedding? How many have out-of-wedlock children in your family or extended family. I hope you all don't attend any thing related to these sinners. Or you better repent. One can argue that it is showing love by attending, one can argue it takes more love not attending. Quit making things up where there is no doctrinal error. Alistair condemns homosexuality and transgenderism. It is simply personal opinion how you deal with situations in real life as long as you are not compromising the truth. Grandma said she wasn't compromising. She told them they were wrong. She told them the Bible condemns their conduct. It is then a personal opinion or conviction about whether to attend or not. I understand you all feel that mere attendance at a wedding is approval and blessing. Well, that is not everyone's feeling. I have attended heterosexual weddings that I didn't approve of. I have celebrated the birth of children where I have not approved of the conduct of the parents of that child. I have celebrated the Fourth of July and I have a lot of reasons to condemn the USA for the blood of innocent children on its hands to name one reason.
Alistair is a sold minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and has not wavered one iota on the truth and the Biblical definition of marriage. That is the bottom line. Disagree on his opinion and advice regarding ATTENDING a gay marriage, but I think anyone that says he needs to repent etc. is out of line and not firmly on Biblical grounds. You must understand that many of us do not equate attendance with approval. If that were the case I would pretty much have to lock myself in a box and never come out.
Great point about the hypothetical ride to the abortion clinic. Begg has left himself with no logical basis for condemning that, although I'm not sure we can be completely confident that he would even want to condemn doing that, given that he is a council member of Downgrade Inc./aka The Gospel Coalition.
I worked in the NYC Retail community for over 30 years of my life. I was in communication and dealings with people on a professional level that were into every lifestyle you can imagine. It took me years to put aside the inner disdain I had in this and come to love others as God Loves Us. It does not mean we embrace or suffer the immorality, but the person. Sinners are not to be rejected, but prayed for. Since Christ came with Love to save the ungodly, then there is no line to be drawn when it comes to Love. That's not saying we agree or endorse the immorality, it's saying since God is Love, we do well to Love as well.
amen! thank you for your comment!
Alistair isn’t affirming their lgbt wedding, Alistair asked questions about the relationship between the grandmother and how well her grandson understands that she doesn’t affirm his choices. She still has to be in relationship with him. That would be an extremely tough reality. I wouldn’t go and I would try to gently explain why.
i agree. Alistair is coming from the mind of a grandmother to a grandson and admits it is a tough thing to consider. At the forefront, Alistair made sure they new the stance was not in agreement.
Thank you for reminding commenters on here of what Begg said, and that he was not / did not endorse or affirm LGBTQ.
But he is telling her to attend and give a gift, thus she would be affirming their sin. A pastor (who is a shepherd) is not supposed to do this. This is very serious. He should have told her to tell him how much she loves him, and for that reason she is telling him the truth, and giving him the gospel, so that he won't go to hell.
That is love, but this is compromise.
She is not affirming it, as she indicated to Mr. Begg that her grandson knows her view on it.@@mikeyonce2323
@@mikeyonce2323Agree ❤
I cannot think of anything more affirming of a gay marriage than attending their marriage ceremony. Which in and of itself is celebrating the union of two men. That is affirming their marriage.
stunned. absolutely stunned.
I would bet Justin Peters will have something to say about it
@@pam2viphI’d also like to hear what Justin has to say about whether or not Alistair should still be invited to speak at Shepherds Conference 2024.
Amen to this message against what Alistair Begg has said
Pretty sure Alistair will see the error in this, especially after preaching through Jude recently and showing the scriptural condemnation of all homosexuality. You still have to express your love to unbelievers, whether their sin is 'little' or 'big.' Under necessity, our trans granddaughter (who has never been in a sexual relationship) is living with us. Do we kick her out onto the street and excommunicate her from the family? Then we'd have to do the same to all our other friends and family whose sins run the gamut of adultery, fornication, and idolatry to milder forms of unbelief. I think Alistair was saying you still want to show love and you can do it in various ways. But going to a ceremony shouldn't be one of them, in my opinion.
that is not a real marriage
I'm really sick of these pastors . telling people not to judge ! They are twisting
Biblical principles , I bet you ten bucks he will not be at that shepherds Confrence .
I never heard of this pastor who he just called Christians judgemental Bigots !
Oh I get it , love them , not their behavior ? But a Christian going. To a gay wedding is affirming their behavior !
He didn't call Christians judgmental and bigots. He was stating that that is how many view Christians.
@@jeffbengs910 and he does too ! That is why she should go to the wedding and bring a gift , Yes he wants it both ways
Express your faith but don't live it and if you do
people will think you are judgemental and a
Bigot too !
It's things like this that make me think they were coerced because we know their history of sound doctrine ... and then this comes out of left field?
I, thoroughly, agree with Pastor Begg. I consulted my own staunch Pastor about my JW granddaughter's wedding 5 years ago. My granddaughter KNOWS my Biblical Christian beliefs. He advised me to attend my granddaughter's wedding and I am glad I did. She's still a Jehovah's Witness and I still am a Christian. I am hoping that my presence at that wedding might have planted a 'mustard seed'. My wedding card would've left no doubt what my beliefs were, too. Prayers are always sent on their behalf. The rest, I am leaving in GOD's hands - where it belongs.
Amen sister
By going you affirmed their sin /
Did you JW granddaughter marry a woman?
If that’s what makes you sleep at night. Seems like you just don’t like confrontation or being put in tough situations.
You should be ashamed for taking a stance such as that.
@@jimkuhn3500 is that what Jesus did we He went to the homes of sinners, ate and fellowshipped with them? There are still plenty of Pharisees among us.