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Impossible - PRS guitars have no soul. I read it on the internet.
They don't.
@@RobotShlomo This guy thinks guitars have "souls"
Coo coo... coo coo... 🤣
This comes up unprompted from PRS fans because it is true. The thing is, your reasons for liking PRS are completely valid. You're allowed to like them, and I'm allowed to like a guitar that is objectively lower quality for the same price. Neck shifting, tuning issues, poor QC, and it's mine. If I wanted a guitar that just works I'd get a PRS. But that is the soul people are talking about, you don't have to like it but we all know this is true. They are also objectively sterile, it's perfect but it's bland. John Mayer got good sounds out of it but if we're being honest the new tones are just straight up Knopfler. There are zero other PRS players of note, always hated Santana's tone, sounded better with an SG.
Between the Buried and Me has tickled my PRS nerve a few times because they do look extremely cool compared to other "metal" guitars but that's about it. I would get one over an Ibanez or Jackson shredder 100%
Tell this to John Mayer😂
@@friedsensei objectively sterile.
How can you prove that objectively?
Sterile is a subjective opinion.
🤣
My daughter’s friend got a job at PRS just three months ago (his name is Brock), and he’s already been promoted because of his quilt top design work. He showed me two of his prototypes, and they are absolutely sick! Since you’re a Looks Matter kind of guy, you’re in for a real treat when you get a load of those bad boys! 🤘🏾
What an organic name drop. I know Brock I heard he's an absolute junkie who got fired months ago. You should drop by the factory and make sure he isn't lying about his employment.
Being older, I was always a Gibson and fender guy (occasionally Gretsch), but I was always on the fence with relatively newer brands like PRS, Suhr, etc. But then I borrowed a friend’s Modern Eagle, and I was blown away. I started digging in a little more to educate myself, and started opening my mind a little. I then came across a 35th anniversary S2 24-08 that has USA 58/15 LT pickups in it, and that was it for me. I was sold. I now have 4 PRS guitars ranging from SE to Wood Library, and I play them all more than my Gibsons and Fenders now. Crazy. Never thought that would happen.
Same. I've had PRS guitars off and on over the years, along with just about everything else. As guitar prices continue to skyrocket, I expect the quality and playability to match what I'm having to pay. PRS isn't the only company doing a good job, but of the Big 3 American manufacturers, I know I do not have to buy one of their highest-end models to get a great guitar.
Did someone put the usa pickups in your S2 35th?
@@kididaho92 This is spot on. As my long ass reply stated, I've had a few & just recently gotten an SE CE-24 to try and make up for the fact that I was an idiot and sold my 1994 CE-24 in 2012. While it's no where near as nice as the 1994 version. It's a REALLY nice guitar. The SE line has come so far in 13 years. It's crazy. My son has a model that might be 9-10 years old. Was a great beginner guitar. But it feels hokey and cheap. The new SE CE-24 I bought doesn't feel cheap. It doesn't feel like a core model (or look like one - the veneer is gorgeous - but it's NOT a core finish lol). But it feels really good.
I'd have zero issues gigging with this guitar if I needed to. Especially once I swapped the tuners for the SE locking tuners. The thing stays in tune. I live in the upper midwest and the climate is a nightmare for guitars. Temps over 100 in the summer down to -30 in the winter. I go through about 2 gallons of water in my humidifier where my guitars are in the winter with the heater running and no matter the humidity level or temp in my office, if I grab a PRS... it's in tune. It's insane.
@@seventallguitarist Long ass reply? Dude, I'm the king of writing novels to express a single point...Or I think of several other points and go about boring people to death....
But, yes, I ran the website for a music store here in Nashville for many years, and the evolution of the SE line is nothing short of impressive. They were always good, but the aesthetics and professional feel set them apart even further now. A very prominent session guitarist, Kenny Greenberg, bought a single cut SE with a single P90 and used it all the time, which says a lot about the quality and sonic properties. Typically, session musicians must use stacks or the Dimarzio P90s that look like ice cream sandwiches to avoid 60-cycle hum. What's funny about that is he asked me to help him find a replacement for his 60s Les Paul Jr. because the pickup was too dark...I made him address an audience about that at a David Grissom clinic when Paul was there. I mean, if an SE is good enough for one of the best players in Nashville, then nothing else needs to be said.
I’m older too - 57 - and I grew up playing Charvels and Ibanez because I was a metal player. I’m still a hard rock/prog player, but what I played is no longer considered metal. 🤣
Anyway - my first PRS was a 2000 CE-22 and I was hooked.
I’ve owned almost every guitar you can name, and the only ones I regret selling are the PRS (I own two core models at the moment) and a 1960 Les Paul Jr.
PRS se custom 24 owner here. I love it. Nothing entry level about it.
Michael, your voice and editing bouncing through this story is SPOT ON. Very easy to listen to and watch. Well done
Isn't sarcasm the lowest form of wit?
@@glennlilley8608 …he said sarcastically lol. . My comment was genuine
I just got an SE Custom 22 Semi hollow, and it is fantastic! It's my first PRS of any sort. I'm satisfied.
I own four (4) PRS core models - [DGT, CU22, Triple Soapy, SC semi-hollow]. They are ALL brilliant guitars. Recently I bought a used SE Hollowbody(Piezo) for fly-gigs and it has fast become my favourite guitar to play by my computer. I leave it out all the time, because it was A LOT cheaper than the cores, so I grab it more often. It's just so damn playable. Insane value for money.
My first, and only, PRS is a 2020 SE Standard 24 - no maple cap, just gorgeous mahogany wood grain, 85/15 pups, and I love the tones and the way it plays. I was checking out the SE McCarty 594 at my favorite local store, but when I got home and pulled out my Standard and played it, I said to myself, "I don't need another PRS - which I can't afford."
Your chord choices were wonderful. Always beautiful videos full of fan-focused content... but just listening to you play, you are definitely an artist. Very cool.
Mike, you have yourself a fantastic day too. Thanks for making these really cool videos for us.
I agree with you, Mike, PRS's decision to listen to customers and pay attention to what was making many of us apprehensive on buying an S2 over an SE will benefit the S2 line greatly and I can see the S2 line being one of the line's strongest sellers.
I bought an S2 McCarty 594 last year, and then spent a lot upgrading to the 58/15 LT, hardware and tuners, and always second-guessed why I bought it only to pump a lot more money into it beyond just changing pickups or something here and there as I owned the guitar. What I never looked back on, though, is how good this guitar feels and how great it sounds. I don't even get my Gibsons out of the case.
This is a good decision by PRS and I'm happy for people who want an American-made PRS with actual American pickups and higher quality hardware.
My SE Paul's guitar is easily the best guitar I've ever played
Same
Definitely looking into these for my next one though, I feel like that solo toward the end would've sounded good on anything, that was some great playing!
It's interesting. I've owned 5 PRS guitars in my lifetime (currently have 3). My first was a 1994 CE-24. It was the prettiest of them all. Purple/maple top. GORGEOUS guitar. Then in 2009 I bought a 2008 Mira (Core Mira - before the S2 factory). Because of the weight, it instantly became my main guitar after 14 years of the CE-24 holding that title. So in 2012, I decided to sell the CE to buy another 2008 Mira I found on eBay. Basically sold the CE for what it cost to buy the 2nd Mira (I bought the 94 CE-24 in 1994 for $1800 - sold it in 2012 for $1300 & it needed new frets and had many dings). I eventually sold both Miras. Went through a regrettable Les Paul phase. So I was "PRS-less". But that led me to having custom builds made. Sold all of my Les Paul models (some Gibson - some Epiphone). Ended up having a guy build me 3 custom builds between 2017 & 2019. Still own all three of them. Love them. Will never part with them.
In 2021 a local shop (coincidently owned by the guy who does the custom builds), had a 2017 PRS Vela used on the shelf. Played it for 5 minutes and instantly bought it. I was back in the PRS game! Then the following spring, I walk into his shop and there is MY old 2008 Mira that I had traded/sold off. I knew it was mine from some of the unique dings. I had to buy it as I always regretted my Les Paul phase. So life was good. Balance had been restored to the PRS force.
Well one of my biggest regrets was getting rid of that 1994 CE-24. Dumb move. It was my first really nice guitar. So for a while I watched on Reverb to see if any early 90's models showed up. They just kept getting more and more expensive. And the new ones are crazy. Low and behold....
... PRS decided to give us the SE CE-24. At $700 (actually $800 as I instantly ordered the SE locking tuners to swap out)... it's a hell of guitar. Is it as nice as the 94 model? Nah. But it's REALLY nice for the price. So nice, that I'm thinking of grabbing one of the satin finish versions (currently going for an insane $499).
I really wish I still had that 94 model. But there was a reason I stopped using it at gigs. It was heavy. My preferred tone had changed over the years. So the Mira was just a better fit. I didn't think for a second of ever swapping pickups in it.
Anyhow, the point of all of this is that they are are all such different guitars. I've loved all of them for various reasons and have gripes with each of them (the Vela is only 22 frets - nothing wrong with that. But I'm used to the 24 frets so it's an adjustment when I grab it).
PRS will ALWAYS listen to what the customers want and as Paul himself has said in numerous interviews... the don't make changes just to change. They make changes when they think they can make improvements that matter.
So there must be something big coming for the core models. Or it's just simply going to come down to the cores having the better wood and finishes. Either way.... might be time to look at a new S2 model. lol.
Love my s2!! Have been waiting for this! Now the value is back in the s2 line. Will be grabbing a 24-08 for sure!
I just bought an Epiphone Les Paul standard pro, been playing it for almost a month non stop, I always wanted a Les Paul and even though its not a Gibson, Ive been playing Epiphone (SG) for a long time, so I know this brand is a workhorse, plus its really nice overall, I really love the Les Paul, but yesterday I played my PRS Santana SE... man, PRS is just so... smooth, the guitar is simple and light but at the same time is very aggresive with the pickups and warm sounding, its really just pure joy when it comes to playing that guitar.
Those SE's are incredibly great. I tried some last year and could not believe how good they were compared to the Core models that I own ( I own 4 of them). Love your content by the way!
One of the most informative reviews I've ever seen. Really appreciate the info.
I have the SE McCarty 594 single cut in blue and it is my favorite guitar I've ever played
As a Gibson/Fender old guy, I say nothing wrong with PRS. They definitely have the best quality control system in the industry, and people just need to come to terms that the whole world doesn’t like the same stuff. Rock on PRS people 🎸🎸🎸.
im so amazed by how much guitar you can get for the price, i own the SE Orianthi limited edition model and it plays so incredibly well i have yet to come across anything that feels so reliable to pick up and play.
I have owned several Custom 24's. I currently play a 1997 Custom 24. They are great Rock guitars. Wish they were more versatile.
Just got the SE NF3 & I love the sounds it makes! Also the wider neck is perfect. I hope people don’t sleep on it
Last year I bought a SE custom 24-08 (Ezra green) and the sheer versatility of that instrument has made me a PRS believer. Its my favorite guitar I own.
Me too custom 24 08 se Eriza verde great Guitar
I recently bought a PRS Custom SE in Dodger blue 💙 and it plays fantastic and sounds amazing! PRS guitars are nice indeed.
Great review man, and congrats for that beauty. To me PRS was a sudden discovery when I played one core McCarty back in 2008. From that moment on I knew what was all about. They're always making great choices. I hope I can meet the chairman itself someday when I visit Maryland.
Yep my SE 594 McCarty is the exact same one and my God how it sounds and for what I got it for is just nuts
The 58/15 LT's in the new S2 Satin model is a total game-changer. A dual-humbucker with a 5-way switch for so many different pickup combinations and sounds is a gigging player's dream. That axe is now on my to-do list.
The video editing is so fire and your voice is so nice to hear
I have a custom 24 and I was looking into another PRS so I went to store to check some out. I picked up the 24-08 and immediately was surprised kinda like your describing you friend
I feel so deprived. I've never played a PRS. Still trying desperately to have a fantastic day.
man that seems like an unbelievably rough predicament, idk if I’d survive that.
Thanks for the great review. I enjoyed hearing you play it as well, but the sticker price blew me away. These are difficult financial days. I love my PRS Hollow body, and my PRS Silver Sky SE. Especially the Hollowbody. Buying that was life-changing. These just aren't days where I can drop this kind of money, no matter how earth-shattering this one is. I was really hoping you were going to tell us this was a surprisingly affordable model.
The bridge, especially the saddles are to be replaced. Then it opens up. No more plinky sound. You'll forever be satisfied with it. However...some core models have an oomph to the sound that no s2 can get...no clue what it is yet
Mike just found your show…nice! I have Gibson, Gretsch , Fender but out of all of them my go to is my PRS SE Custom 24…love the neck and does everything. Nice playing brother!👍😎
Just recently purchased a lefty model of the SE Custom 24-08 in faded blue, sight unseen. Amazing guitar. Not a single regret. That guitar is damn straight addictive.
Well done! Good points made ..
Thank you! I feel the same way about my Jackson JS22!
So, I saw this on the day you posted.
A week later, I found myself in a store looking at an eriza verde 24-08 on sale. I've wanted a PRS, and just out of price range....walked out with it.
But even though I've wanted one since I saw Tim from 311 and Mike from incubus, 20 years ago.
I have a tele, a strat, a jazz master..... But I got this PRS and it blows my mind
24-08’s are amazing. PRS are really onto something with these TCI pickups. I’m totally in love with my Wood Library core 24-08. It’s so inspiring to play.
Those pickups sound great. I would think about getting a 2024 S2.
Nice vid, Mike. I was startled when you mentioned the shortcomings of the splits in the DGT SE. I was so disappointed in their choices, I gutted the electronics and replaced them with a Duncan JB and ‘59. The splits are now outside coils instead of the inside ones, and the guitar’s sound is improved 100%. Cheers!
PRS Se mcarty in faded blue new adoptee here.....in over 30 years of playing mnay guitars and brands.....i found the best guitar i have ever played.
and it does it all, from strat bell like tones, to gibsons grunt...and it of course it has its own PRS sound.
i am now a PRS guy....the guitars arrive built at top spec, the qc is amazing...and they come set up out the box.
i never looked at them twice until i took a punt on my mcarty....boy im glad i did after all these years.
so good im gonna buy another one :) (prob a cusom 24 blood orange and a trem)
I got a Tremonti core and a DW-24. They’re both amazing! Tremonti is heavy and chunky tones, the DW-24 is a different take but I love it! Great video production by the way
Thanks Mike, I will have to check S2 C24 8
I just picked up a brand new old stock 2019 single cut Santana Egyptian gold SE. It has the TCI pickups in it and the tone is killer.
Note that "24" models will have tones more like Gibson SG and "22" fret models more like Gibson LP due to pickup placement under the strings.
Great video.
Hey man, just wanted to say I love your enthusiasm for guitar gear and your videos are top notch! Earned yourself a subscriber 🙂
It just so happens I have a 594 SE in black gold burst winging its way to me!
Been having a PRS McCarty since 2001. Great guitar!
My SE Mark Tremonti is one of my favorite guitars to play. It has a JB and a Jazz.
Ayyy new mike vid
I’ve had a PRS Special 22, a US Silver Sky, an S2 594 (with Fishman opencores) and got rid of all of them. None of them inspired me to play. Traded the silver sky and 594 for an HSS Suhr. And decided on a different Suhr so went to sell the trade and couldn’t move it.
Found a guy getting rid of his Myles Kennedy model and asked if he’d be willing to trade (fully expecting to sell it if he did). He agreed to trade and I couldn’t believe how incredible that Myles Kennedy model was. So incredible that I sold some other stuff and kept it. First PRS that REALLY inspired me to play. The others were all superb quality instruments, but just didn’t have that ‘thing’.
If you’re priced out of that one at the moment, wait for an SE version because holy smokes that guitar is insanely cool.
About your comment on the pickups, it’s the other way around. The SE always had the “S” versions of the pickups. The S2 series got pickups pots and hardware from the SE line up until now with the S2 getting the core pickups. Funny enough now instead of the S2 line being sort of a bad value over the SE it’s now the CE that’s a bad value over the S2
It's kind of crazy how much things changed in the past few hours lol. I wonder if they'll have some big changes soon for the CE24.
@@mikeomatic9905I was wondering the same thing. PRS is upgrading the “lower” lines, does that mean that their top tier guitars are going to be getting a new pickup set?
I like the CE do they have the core pickups
@@deddiev1718 they always had core pickups
@@mikeomatic9905 Yeah, i bought mine 2 years ago, and i still love my CE, but i won't buy a new one with this prices...unless, they put american hardware.
Long time (before they were called Core) PRS user from back in the hiphop-rock days.
Currently my fave is my McCarty 594.
Ever since the debut of the SE series I have been consistently impressed with the SE quality.
The first one that had me in awe was the 245 single cut model. Dead ringer for my 10Top SingleCut. Like, acoustically the SE245 was on par with a guitar 3x its price.
I recently picked up an SE Hollowbody Standard Piezo Doghair, and again, compared to the Core version, blown away by how close the specs match a Core version, at a fraction of the price! Now I want a DGT!😂
Every time I picked up an SE 245 in my local shop, I was always floored by how well it played. I would probably swap the pickups on it if I got one, but whatever. I already have a 594 that I love so the 245 wouldn't really cover any new ground, but if I had to start over again, I would definitely consider a 245.
My wife got me a Mira S2 that has the coil split and I absolutely adore it. Preferred over my Santana SE and my SE Custom 24
The SE DGT really changed my mind about PRS.
Have the single cut version.
Really wish I would have waited and found a double cut instead. Oh well. Still sounds amazing.
I have two electric SEs and an acoustic SE. LOVE them all. I owned an S2 standard and it felt great, but my SEs have more character and sound that’s their own.
Love my acoustic SE
I’ve been really fortunate to do some trades and come across a really high-end PRS is Dgt’s core models 594 wood library, Dgt wood library, private stock. They’re amazing, but no matter how good they are there’s always I feel like something missing I did look into the SE model From overseas and the quality is phenomenal. I just kind of find myself constantly buying just a solo again hard to hang on to for some reason
I absolutely love my SE Tremonti. Sound is absolutely amazing.
I recently stepped up to the SE Custom 24-08, and the pickup are increasable. I have a Fender Professional shawbucker and I still get better tone from my PRS. I just can't get the quack, which makes sense. PRS has stepped up their game for sure. I can feel how professional the SE Custom is. I can't afford the S series or the Core, but they have done a great job with the Custom SE.
I grabbed a Custom 24 SE just a couple months ago when I visited Sweetwater's campus in Fort Wayne. I actually prefer the 85/15s of the SE line to the 58/15s of the S2 and core models, but everyones ear is different.
good video mike! make more stuff like this
Been a strat and gibson guy all my life but always wandered about prs, until i got my CE24 and now all i use its my prs more versatile with sounds, and with the coil split makes it harder to let go, now im looking into a silversky, and a mc carty model
My most played guitar still is my PRS McCarty along with a Squier Strat I paid next to nothing for back in 2020, best of both worlds I guess lol. Really excited to check this new 24-08 out, it looks like a dream come true since I've never been able to justify to myself dropping 5k+ on a core PRS!
I have a SE hollowbody standard and a SE CE24, both phenomenal imo.
Looks cool, hope I get to try one soon!
PRS guitars feel fantastic to play, but imo they lack in the metal department unless you have an Amp doing the heavy lifting.
Plus I still can't stand the bird frets, so it's already a deal breaker no matter how good it plays
Looks are everything. Sound is easy to fix.
Great video
PRS, Schecter and Ibanez will be the brands making into the future I believe
ESP as well - they are under the same ownership as Schecter.
I have two cores a CE and a Silver Sky, love them! My next guitar Im between the s2 vela semihollow or the se hollowbody II. They all pack a punch
I have 2 PRS’s. My first is a core Custom 24. My most recent is a 2408 SE… The 2408 makes me wonder why anyone would spend the money for a core model anymore. If I understand correctly the SE line is now made by Cort. They’re knocking it out of the park…..
My first PRS was an S2, back from when PRS did their 35th anniversary models across all their lines. I loved it, but it was always a gateway to a core for me; a way of seeing if PRS was a brand I would gel with. Turns out I very much did and have had a couple of core models since then, which I sold the S2 to bolster my finds for. If the S2 range was as it is now though, with the same pickups and nitro finish as the core models, I would likely have kept it a while longer before selling it.
My PRS 594 SE bodies my fenders. 1000% more soul and I LOVE my Fenders.
I managed to ask Mr. PRS a question during one of their livestream events a while back on that issue.
It was how they could manage to keep the Core, S2, SE lines distinct while still pursuing continuous improvement.
While I can't remember the answer off the top of my head (starstruck I think) - this pickup trickle-down process is one of the ways.
I suspect SE's will always use veneers - but can get some of the fancier dye patterns from SE/ Core.
As S2 goes to all TCI - I suspect the machinery used for the S2 pickups will be moved to Indonesia (as they did with the 82/15 pickup machines to become the 82/15 S pickups).
PRS seems to have a plan - and it's working.
I use a Modeler, so as long as the Guitar plays well, and the Pickups are 60 cycle hum cancelling/noiseless, balanced across the strings, and have individually adjustable Pole Pieces, I'm good to go.
the mark holcomb SE is fire
I thought I wanted to collect guitars. After some time with a Yamaha and a Squier Classic Vibe, I picked up an SE. loved it so much I got an S2. easy to play, sound good, and the birds are dope. I’m no longer a collector, just a player.
I just got the PRS silver sky SE and I have played a lot of nice guitars but both my silver sky and my tremonti (both are SE's) and they are some of the best guitars I have ever played and my silver sky is a guitar that I just don't want to leave my hands
Just tried the s2 custom 24 and the SE , I liked the feel of the S2 neck better. Sound wise they sounded almost identical.
PRS - great guitars at every price level, nuff said
My crystal ball says, there will be a big Core sale later this year or early next year...then an updated ... new & improved ... Core line will get released. I just ordered a new S2.
I had to save for weeks for my cheapo wah pedal and my Fuzzface distortion box (that I ordered through the mail in 1983). We didn't get any allowance in my family. I also lost a brand new $120 chorus pedal back then by leaving on the roof of my car and driving off.
I'm interested only in the esthetics and how it feels in the hands. Sound? Just try a different speaker of a different IR. That's the real gamechanger when looking for "a sound" IMO.
The 2408 versions are a lot like my ‘95 Carvin DC127 with the coil split switches,. That’s my one never-sell guitar, for that feature alone.
Supro Amulet Link is malformed, just an fyi. Thanks for the video and links. Wish I could afford that Godin 👍❤️. The blues the guy played on it... Priceless 😎
Great video. Thanks. Off topic question: Are those Adam T7V monitors in the background? For an apartment-living practice setup, what would you think about running a pedalboard through an interface/computer/the Adams versus a low-watt tube amp? Apologies if you've discussed this. When I search for Adam in your channel I get some Maroon 5 videos.
I want three PRS to compare!! LOL!! Cool video
Owned an S2 double cut and loved it. Had to sell it unfortunately but was able to score a SE 594 single cut. Both are amazing. The S2 in my opinion played a little easier and resonated in the hands more but the 594 really does play exceptionally well and not planning on letting it go anytime soon. I do plan on eventually getting another S2. Yes spec wise are similar but play differently. The 24/08 looks sick
Would be interested to see you get your hands on some of the newer Guild solidbody releases! Surfliner SSH/Deluxe/HH, Polara Standard/Deluxe/Kim Thayll. They've been putting out some really solid mid-budget guitars
I have a PRS SE Custom 24 and a PRS SE Silver Sky, and I do not see the need to spend more, as these sound and play great.
Awsome keep up the work
My only prs is an acoustic. Gonna have to look at these.
That’s funny, I never thought of it as a game!
That's a funny way to state the pickup sharing, that they are putting S2 pickups in SEs, lol. Back in 2013 when they launched the S2 models their direction was a simplified US made chassis with import SE electronics (basically imported loaded pickguards). This was because they saw even in their core lines that buyers were auto-swapping pickups "fur the toanzes!" and thus why price the S2 models with unique pickups so they just put the SE stuff in there to keep the S2s more competitive.
Still waiting for that telecaster se line, so i can afford one
Love my SE 594 single cut
Me, too. I went with the standard because rich mahogany is all you need.
I think I've decided that I need one Strat, one LP, and every PRS configuration available for lefties (which isn't much at this point). Or, another SE and Standard with higher-end PRS pickups installed.
The Custom 24-08 has 24 frets but has a toggle switch for splitting each pickup. 8 combinations
Ah, to be fair I think the SE DGT is made by PT Cort in Indonesia, they deserve some credit too.