I hope it boosts his channel a heap. This channel is heavily underrated and deserves way more views and subs than what it has. This dudes legit just made tons of great content over the years purely out of his love for skateboarding.
I know what the first guy is talking about, there used to be people like that in my local skatepark when I was a kid. I think it all just stems from misunderstanding how trick names actually work/where they came from, which eventually turn the wrong names into more widely accepted "facts" in a specific group. Might have something to do with language issues as well (in a non-english speaking country).
Agree on #1 - started skating ~2000 and never heard of a bs nose slide being called front side. Fake, nollie on the other hand still confuses me. But front board has always been a front board to me.
I guess one way to explain the fakie nollie slides thing is just to imagine yourself in the stall tail stall nose stall, disaster or rock and then someone starts pushing you, whatever you're standing on is the trick. If you went in fakie and your friend pushes your chest you're still standing on and sliding a back tail. If you went in nollie and your friend pushes your chest you're still sliding a front nose-slide.
@@jeffli480 im not really sure what you mean are you telling him crooked grinds and noseslides with your butt facing the ledge are actually frontside that doesn't make a lot of sense.
@@tweaking_off_the_mid sorry I may have been confused by the question, I was referring to flatground tricks. But I think for grinds/slides, the fs/bs aspect is determined by which side it is in relation to you as you get into it and how you popped - like a fakie Fs noseslide or fakie Fs 5-0....but I think it does get kinda confusing whether you go with switch/fakie once you add a rotation. Like a fs180 into a....fakie 5-0, or switch nosegrind? I personally think ppl just tend to choose whichever sounds cooler lol. Like a Bennett grind is a bs 180 to switch smith because “fakie anchor grind” sounds stupid haha...
Slides were the only thing I remember being backwards. Whatever direction you were sliding would be backside or frontside. So a backside noseslide would be sliding with your back towards the direction of the slide.
The person referring to FS vs. BS is mistaken. I started skating in '85 and it has always been the same when it comes to grinds and slides. The only instances where it gets "reversed" is when it comes to nollie tricks (a nollie FS 180 is functionally the same as a BS half-cab.)
Great answer to the fourth question. Yes....32 is not old lol. 53 here. The idea of addressing your overall fitness level would probably help a lot of skaters of all ages.
thrasher mag needs to put u in the mag! my opinion , you've been doin this channel for a decent time and ive been a long time fan of the channel.. i think if they had an article on the channel and what you've been doin would be sweet to read!
When it comes to the FS BS thing, I think there's actually some truth to it. Not necessarily saying it 'officially' switched in any sense. However, what is weird is how on flat, with an imaginary obstacle in the direction you're going to move / 180 to, it definitely _is_ switched. A backside 180 with an imaginary obstacle toe side should be a frontside 180. A frontside 180 with an imaginary obstacle heel side, should be a backside 180. Keep in mind how with these 180s, you pretty much never remain exactly in the same spot. A backside 180 has you land further toe side direction, a frontside 180 has you land more heel side direction (from starting position). So yeah, I actually do think it is kind of off in basic flat ground skateboarding. Personally I would wish that the rotation direction would be what makes something frontside or backside. It makes sense if the nose of the skateboard rotating toe side would always be frontside. And if the nose rotates heel side, it should be named backside. It just makes more sense to me. I never really got why it matters if an obstacle is in front of you or behind you, when you can still rotate both ways towards getting onto the obstacle (at least, in theory). I do think naming conventions in skateboarding are a tad weak. And some of the now established names have nothing to do with what the original creators used to call them (think Magic Flip), so why would the modern names be accurate anyway? It's also kind of funny how really quite a lot of tricks had multiple inventors and as a result, different names depending on where you come from anyway (Brazil is a great example, where their 'kick flip' is actually what we call a tre flip and the kick flip is just called 'flip'). There would have been much more of that, hadn't most countries adopted the English names for tricks.
To the guy who asked if he should quit. No. I'm 42 and still sk8. I say if you want to keep pushing forward stretch before you sk8. Focus more on gaining your balance and cruising around before you focus on tricks. The rest will fall into place. Oh yeah don't forget #1 RULE OF SKATEBOARDING: HAVE FUN
Some one already said mega ramp .... but i recently saw Bucky post a video at bobs place those mega ramp gaps to rail are not human lol gotta be most difficult lol
That’s funny you say gaps and handrails are the hardest thing. I hear pro skaters for example on the nine club podcast, talk about how those are the easiest tricks for them. With their skill and confidence level they can bust out a handrail or gap trick in a handful of tries. The way some pros talk about manual tricks is like they don’t even want to touch that shit lol.
if you do a BACKSIDE ollie into a boardslide and travel BACKWARDS, IT IS A BACKSIDE boardslide. (we called them railslides, as even a noseslide or casper slide is a boardslide)... great channel but PLEASE cover that shiny silver thing behind your logo, it looks jank AF. someone send him some black electrical tape.
If you approached a ledge/rail etc that is in front of you to do a nose slide you would be rotating 90 degrees backside, so it would be a backside nose slide etc, i've heard it referred to as a front nose, which I assumed was because the obstacle was in front of you, always knew it as a backside trick, and after around 13 years of skating, including with a couple of pro's, it seemed pretty much set in stone and obvious. If you rotated the other 90 degrees it would be a backside 180 for instance.
@@mdfkrz79 yeah but the ledge is in front of you, making it frontside. Like a Bennett Grind is a frontside trick even though you spin backside. The only thing that matters is what side of you the ledge is on when approaching the trick.
@@larzostrander2233 so a backside 180 fakie nosegrind could be a double front fakie nose grind? as you are rotating twice the amount but the ledge is in front of you? If you rotate backside then it's backside, plus for a nose slide you are not only rotating backside you are sliding backwards also.
@@mdfkrz79 it’s always been about where the ledge is when you’re rolling up. Backside 180 fakie nosegrind is correct because you’re saying the direction you spin into it, not where the ledge is. And the sliding backwards thing doesn’t mean anything. Do you call frontside board slides backside board slides just because you’re sliding backwards. It’s only about what side the ledge is on.
Ole boy starting to remind me of Jimmy Neutron with that hairdo. I knew kids who argued it was which direction you went, figured they were just iDiots, but it was also back in the day/no internet.
Chiropractors are Not doctors, prob stop going to see them. See a sports physiotherapist instead, very knowledgeable about skate injuries. Please don't see a chiropractor
In this hypothetical reality skate show Mullin needs to be the stressed out team manager.
Mullen already did that with the World Industries team
The thumbnail is legendary LOL
so you wanna watch king of the road basically
Dude, I was about to write the exact same comment.
but without all the pushing pentagrams at children stuff.
@@joejoe2658 lmfao wtf
@@joejoe2658 maybe skateboard culture isnt for you if you think pentagrams corrupts children or whatever
@Selim Mašić damn right they did
6:41 Rad Rat doing his Skrillex impression.
I swear your thumbnails get better every week 😂😂😂😂
I hope it boosts his channel a heap. This channel is heavily underrated and deserves way more views and subs than what it has. This dudes legit just made tons of great content over the years purely out of his love for skateboarding.
Grew up on your tutorials and just now stumbling upon your UA-cam resurgence. Stay killing it, Aron L!
I know what the first guy is talking about, there used to be people like that in my local skatepark when I was a kid. I think it all just stems from misunderstanding how trick names actually work/where they came from, which eventually turn the wrong names into more widely accepted "facts" in a specific group. Might have something to do with language issues as well (in a non-english speaking country).
So true. "We called that a ___________ where I'm from." Literally no one cares.
@@BigFatCock0 LMFAO
8 stair is the most I have ollied. 6 is the most I have KFed.
Popozão that’s gnarly
Kfed was my favorite Britney Spears boyfriend
5 and 3 haha I am a chicken
Baker 5 coming soon. Film and distribution by DaddyRat Productions® LLC.
lol
The show kinda sounds like it would be the tv version of THUG 2’s story mode
Agree on #1 - started skating ~2000 and never heard of a bs nose slide being called front side. Fake, nollie on the other hand still confuses me. But front board has always been a front board to me.
I guess one way to explain the fakie nollie slides thing is just to imagine yourself in the stall tail stall nose stall, disaster or rock and then someone starts pushing you, whatever you're standing on is the trick. If you went in fakie and your friend pushes your chest you're still standing on and sliding a back tail. If you went in nollie and your friend pushes your chest you're still sliding a front nose-slide.
You just always go by rotation direction regardless of what foot you pop off and what direction you’re traveling for everything, except for switch.
@@jeffli480 im not really sure what you mean are you telling him crooked grinds and noseslides with your butt facing the ledge are actually frontside that doesn't make a lot of sense.
@@tweaking_off_the_mid sorry I may have been confused by the question, I was referring to flatground tricks. But I think for grinds/slides, the fs/bs aspect is determined by which side it is in relation to you as you get into it and how you popped - like a fakie Fs noseslide or fakie Fs 5-0....but I think it does get kinda confusing whether you go with switch/fakie once you add a rotation. Like a fs180 into a....fakie 5-0, or switch nosegrind? I personally think ppl just tend to choose whichever sounds cooler lol. Like a Bennett grind is a bs 180 to switch smith because “fakie anchor grind” sounds stupid haha...
My dream team/vid: a Shortys and FLIP video (Muska, Penny, Rowley, Smolik, Boulala, Turner, Saari, Olsen) 🛹
this is the one
Man I love Rad Rats videos :D
@radrat - watch King of The Road - that's pretty close to what you described 🤙🏼
Yep, exactly.
but without all the pushing pentagrams at children stuff.
When i was a kid i was told if the front of ur body is facing the street while on a curb its frontside and opposite for backside.
I would 100% watch that show, sounds awesome :D
I love your skate show idea. That sounds like fun
Slides were the only thing I remember being backwards. Whatever direction you were sliding would be backside or frontside. So a backside noseslide would be sliding with your back towards the direction of the slide.
I started skating in 95-96
The person referring to FS vs. BS is mistaken. I started skating in '85 and it has always been the same when it comes to grinds and slides. The only instances where it gets "reversed" is when it comes to nollie tricks (a nollie FS 180 is functionally the same as a BS half-cab.)
your ideal skate video sounds alot like CKY. pre-jackass videos but with actual skate parts.
Great answer to the fourth question. Yes....32 is not old lol. 53 here. The idea of addressing your overall fitness level would probably help a lot of skaters of all ages.
I hope you don’t take this the wrong way, but I just realized you’re like the Featureman of skateboarding. It’s awesome haha
time to set up a home gym to complete the transformation to Chad Rat
It would be awesome if you did another retro rippers maybe on guy mariano
thrasher mag needs to put u in the mag! my opinion , you've been doin this channel for a decent time and ive been a long time fan of the channel.. i think if they had an article on the channel and what you've been doin would be sweet to read!
I always enjoy your videos but I am really missing your history lesson type videos.
same, those deep dives are very fun. But I always like these questions vids too.
Same!
When it comes to the FS BS thing, I think there's actually some truth to it. Not necessarily saying it 'officially' switched in any sense. However, what is weird is how on flat, with an imaginary obstacle in the direction you're going to move / 180 to, it definitely _is_ switched. A backside 180 with an imaginary obstacle toe side should be a frontside 180. A frontside 180 with an imaginary obstacle heel side, should be a backside 180. Keep in mind how with these 180s, you pretty much never remain exactly in the same spot. A backside 180 has you land further toe side direction, a frontside 180 has you land more heel side direction (from starting position). So yeah, I actually do think it is kind of off in basic flat ground skateboarding. Personally I would wish that the rotation direction would be what makes something frontside or backside. It makes sense if the nose of the skateboard rotating toe side would always be frontside. And if the nose rotates heel side, it should be named backside. It just makes more sense to me. I never really got why it matters if an obstacle is in front of you or behind you, when you can still rotate both ways towards getting onto the obstacle (at least, in theory). I do think naming conventions in skateboarding are a tad weak. And some of the now established names have nothing to do with what the original creators used to call them (think Magic Flip), so why would the modern names be accurate anyway? It's also kind of funny how really quite a lot of tricks had multiple inventors and as a result, different names depending on where you come from anyway (Brazil is a great example, where their 'kick flip' is actually what we call a tre flip and the kick flip is just called 'flip'). There would have been much more of that, hadn't most countries adopted the English names for tricks.
I love these videos!
Mega ramp
The perfect skate vid does it exist, it’s bundled with a neat lil game called THPS3 on the PS2 ;) haha
“Yo radrats back and ready to slap a** and pass gas” Radrat 2020
That show exists. It’s King of the Road. The show is done really well. Even my wife likes it.
I would watch the shit out of that TV show. And the spin off where one of the more popular cast members tries to find love. Lolol
Man you put waynes head on a white body you are crazy 😂
To the guy who asked if he should quit. No. I'm 42 and still sk8. I say if you want to keep pushing forward stretch before you sk8. Focus more on gaining your balance and cruising around before you focus on tricks. The rest will fall into place.
Oh yeah don't forget
#1 RULE OF SKATEBOARDING:
HAVE FUN
Holy shit I'd kill to watch this show lmao
Some one already said mega ramp .... but i recently saw Bucky post a video at bobs place those mega ramp gaps to rail are not human lol gotta be most difficult lol
So basically Nyjah’s Send Saturdays
That’s funny you say gaps and handrails are the hardest thing. I hear pro skaters for example on the nine club podcast, talk about how those are the easiest tricks for them. With their skill and confidence level they can bust out a handrail or gap trick in a handful of tries. The way some pros talk about manual tricks is like they don’t even want to touch that shit lol.
You hated Jackass ? Nooooo
if you do a BACKSIDE ollie into a boardslide and travel BACKWARDS, IT IS A BACKSIDE boardslide. (we called them railslides, as even a noseslide or casper slide is a boardslide)... great channel but PLEASE cover that shiny silver thing behind your logo, it looks jank AF. someone send him some black electrical tape.
8:56 so... You basically just described a tv version of king of the road just with no challenges?
KOTR is thrashy not trashy
#ballerhaircut
ok what if there are conjoined twins who skate. they are attached back to back. THEN, how would frontside or backside apply? lol
Love how he put Brandon beibel on his trashy jersey shore show @radratvideo
I love trash TV and would watch.
First guy probably was just in a friend group that didn’t know what they were talking about
If you approached a ledge/rail etc that is in front of you to do a nose slide you would be rotating 90 degrees backside, so it would be a backside nose slide etc, i've heard it referred to as a front nose, which I assumed was because the obstacle was in front of you, always knew it as a backside trick, and after around 13 years of skating, including with a couple of pro's, it seemed pretty much set in stone and obvious. If you rotated the other 90 degrees it would be a backside 180 for instance.
@@mdfkrz79 yeah but the ledge is in front of you, making it frontside. Like a Bennett Grind is a frontside trick even though you spin backside. The only thing that matters is what side of you the ledge is on when approaching the trick.
@@larzostrander2233 so a backside 180 fakie nosegrind could be a double front fakie nose grind? as you are rotating twice the amount but the ledge is in front of you? If you rotate backside then it's backside, plus for a nose slide you are not only rotating backside you are sliding backwards also.
@@mdfkrz79 it’s always been about where the ledge is when you’re rolling up. Backside 180 fakie nosegrind is correct because you’re saying the direction you spin into it, not where the ledge is. And the sliding backwards thing doesn’t mean anything. Do you call frontside board slides backside board slides just because you’re sliding backwards. It’s only about what side the ledge is on.
Ole boy starting to remind me of Jimmy Neutron with that hairdo.
I knew kids who argued it was which direction you went, figured they were just iDiots, but it was also back in the day/no internet.
If you wanna see fools get trashy, just look up the webcams inside the bars they hang out at.
Ggggaaaaaaayyyyyy
Dude based on that thumbnail, that would be the most annoying cast possible (except for Haslam and maybe the Andy Anderson guy)
The first guy was on drugs, backside nose slide has always been the same.
so as a skater you're sledging people for taking drugs? have you ever ridden a skateboard or does it just sit next to your worn out rollerblades?
@@joejoe2658 Nah I do straight edge noseslides on my scooter
Dude, you should have been with Beagle at the time of the "Beagle Tapes".
Chiropractors are Not doctors, prob stop going to see them. See a sports physiotherapist instead, very knowledgeable about skate injuries. Please don't see a chiropractor
Nah dude's just a poser who doesn't know what they're talking about.