He says "Are you serious!?" when he misses his lvl 3. He should say "Are you serious, Capcom!?" when a j-MK phases through his lariat animation when crossing up.
The trick to instant air SPD is to do the spd input backwards. So instead of doing the 360 clockwise starting forward, start holding back then do counter clockwise. This input also makes sure running beargrab does not come out. Edit: I'm sure sajam has figured out the air spd shortcut since these clips are from days ago streams but I just want to see other zangief players thrive.
Wow I did play you ! Haha that’s so awesome . Good game Sajam! When you countered my Di after my level 3 route , i straight up crumbled . Very well played .
Yeah! Street Fighter 6 needs a Twelve! :D If it's anything like the rest of this series though, Sajam will test out in Diamond and then have a very short walk. Not really the life most of us are livin'. :3
The trick to grapplers is to rarely go for the command grab. Just let the THREAT of the CG scare the opposition into mistakes. You get to press buttons basically for free. I play Manon and I get to press buttons so freely 90 percent of the match.
But also remember to actually use it at least once so they Know. You got to make them think your crazy you have to hit them with shit to make them rethink their whole lifes.
@@greenoftreeblackofblue6625 The amount of times I've just jumped over someone and command grabbed them is hilarious in and of itself, but more so when afterwards they always jump whenever I get close, giving me a free qcf.k and just sending them into the corner
Manon is so fun. I never play grapplers because of the archetypal gief playstyle where you have to inch-worm across the screen and because big body wrestler type dudes don't appeal to me but Manon is a judo ballerina with a decent walk speed, addressing both reasons.
Which all falls apart the second you get called out for doing something stoopidly unsafe. i use the opposite of that in some cases. Now that everyone thinks Manon is FREE they seem to think it's a great idea to just come swinging on a Practitioner of Judo? o.o
I think this is an issue with manon. her game plan is heavily weighted toward landing multiple command grabs and the threat only kicks in under ideal circumstances late in matches. idk how to buff her bc her game plan just seems weird at high level play. I think that threat is also skewed for gief bc his combos are so garbage, his damage is like 1 drink Jamie without spd
@@michaelchristian6096 I bet it feels kind of bad for Zangief players when they miss input and get it and then it just hits Like, you're spending the whole set trying to figure out how to sneak in to land the big gamble, and then a mistake works instantly, with no effort at all
Don't know if he discovered this later in the video but when doing Borscht Dynamite while grounded, don't do the half circle back shortcut. That input is too close to his other command grab so that will most likely come out instead. I would recommend the half circle forward shortcut or just a full circle if you like playing with your stick a lot.
@@nano-ue4pf with a little practice you can do repeating half circles with your left and press up with your right hand between each loop and I've found it works really consistently for me. After maybe 20 minutes of practice I rarely missing a 1080 for Goldlewis.
I think I *kinda* understand why they did what they did to their grapplers in this game. I can't think of a street fighter game before SF6 where it's legitimately kinda tough to get plus frames without spending meter, and the idea of being minus at SPD range is just too spooky. It's the same reason they don't give grapplers invincible reversals: it doesn't feel good to be put in an RPS situation by your opponent even though you're the one running your offense. That being said, Capcom's fears were unfounded, now give gief a jab confirm, make his lariat hit cross-up and give him a real level one.
They are so scared of making a good grappler but in the same breath make OD amnesia because they don’t think zoners are scary for the exact opposite reason. Feels like the more damage you do off a single move the worse off you’ll be balanced for general play.
Match-Up Specific Zangief Tech, Use Tundra Storm (dd hk) against Any Character Who Kicks In Their Drive Impact it'll get you out of jail in the corner way more often than you think it would
Also F HK is safe if you properly distance yourself & Light SPD has way further range than you think it does (If your standing LK can connect theyre in SPD range)
No, never Tundra Storm, ever. If you see DI just DI back, then you can H.SPD for 3270 or Russian Suplex for 2990 damage and sideswitch, both of those followups allow you to spend meter for oki, Tundra does a meager 2400 with no chance for oki (it's just +5f). If you're in burnout, you can L.SPD most DI attempts, hell, even 4HP, which works against ALL drive impacts, is a better answer because while it only does 1700, it leaves the opponent at the other side of the screen while you are +54F, which is plenty of time to get there and have oki. tl;dr JUST DON'T
It makes me laugh seeing Sajam get a stun and then jump, do nothing, land, and SPD. I'm sure it's just the input, but it's just SO funny to see it after every other character does jump into air move, into combo, and Zangief just. *Hop* ... *Land* *SPD*
27:32 A random tip on ZAngief, tundra storm (his mostly useless counter stance) it is quite usefull on burnout against characters with kick Drive impacts like Juri or RAshid. EDIT: Apparently you can't cancel from a heavy string, so you will still get checkmated anywayz, just ignore my comment. Was thinking if he can st.HP to counter DIs on burnout but I believe it is the same problem. Long startup
I hear what he's saying about people spamming their moves instead of trying to play the game properly, but I feel like it's more because they don't know what they're missing, because there's a lot more educational content out there that sounds like "this move is really really good" than "here's how you practice whiff punishing"
Its so painful to see chat not know shit about Zangief because he's so bad nobody studies him. Like how they kept saying headbutt combos dont work off DI when they clearly do or telling Sajam to do the shittiest least resourceful punishes. I wish I was there as the Gief lab freak to help 😔
I think Gief is headed towards being a character I could love- I love too many command normals, having 7 normal grabs is super sick, I do like big reads.. I just wish his defense was better right now, weirdly..? Like lariat should work, for sure, and the loss of flex v-skill seems painful.. But also some other stuff needs looked at- why is that how lvl 1 is??
I don't think I've felt more big brained than me seeing Sajam jump SPD for the sixth time and me just suddenly putting together that he can't do a standing 360 from neutral. Which I could have just assumed from the fact that he doesn't normally play grapplers.
The only two grapplers I've ever played is Potemkin from Strive and Zangief from SF6. Hearing Sajam talk about top-tier grapplers existing is relieving, but now I'm just mad I've only played the bottom-tier ones. Considering how much other characters get away with on a medium kick, Gief needs SOMETHING. Like, he has a whole other stomp string and a counter move which are never used because they lead to nothing (especially tundra storm, like, what the hell Capcom). Surprised Sajam never even mentioned them in this vid, but that's probably for the best.
I really think capcom did a god job with Gief’s design in sf6 overall but his supers really hold him back. Level 1 in particular not being a “get off me tool” as well as not working well as an anti air is rough
I've been looking forward to this and Manon since I like playing both of them and I'm hoping there's more good stuff I don't know about, like with Kimberly. Although with Kimberly, it was mostly random people saying she was bad, but I heard Manon was bad from Justin Wong so I'm not super hopeful.
Kimberly is not bad but shes defo hard to play against decent players half of the shit he did with kim would get demolished by ppl who know how she works i wouldve loved to see his kim against a good juri or even cammy 😂
Even while chastising other players for doing risky or fake stuff with Kim, a lot of the stuff he was doing has strong counters he or the people he was playing don't know about. I play Kim and my winrate against the character is absolutely massive. She has so much fake crap and avoidable mix.
@@alexmaganda5827 He says Kim was the easiest he got to master because no one actually stops him from doing his level 1 offense. Obviously that means that when people know how to stop her the match gets harder, but it doesn't automatically swing all the way in the other direction. There are good high level Kim players and a Kim also just won a major tournament. Yeah if you just run your level 1 offense against high master players you're gonna get demolished. You have to actually match their level of skill and matchup knowledge on your own character.
If they could just give Zangief the quick lariat again and let me spend meter to keep it going I would be satisfied. I don't need green hand or an anti cross up lariat. It might be a skill issue on my part but I feel like he could be a little stronger and still be hard to use like he's supposed to be.
As much as I generally hate fighting grapplers, I hope they just give gief a gun, so he's at least interesting to fight against lol. Just kind of waddling around until the gief player commits with a severely punishable move lol. Feels like everyone can outrange him and generally react to a lot of his moves too because of how slow they are. He's like a sandwich with no insides. Like sure it'll get the job done sometimes, but this dude doesn't even have tomato going on.
I know I'd hate it but i truly believe if you dont wanna give gief anything else at least give him more gauge than everyone else. I watch Itazan and my boy is always in drive debt trying to get in
27:29 My b if someone already told you this but you can kick reversal certain drive impacts that use their legs like cammy and juri, it's kinda your only option without level 2 or 3. But if you're against a punch drive impact character good luck. Imo gief should be able to reversal all drive impacts with it
You can light SPD all DI's and its a much better punish, you can also 5HP, which does less damage but gives you more breathing room and works on everyone. They really should buff tundra :(
@@MFGeedorah47 If you can't L.SPD a DI, you also can't Tundra Storm it, since it has one more startup frame. If you don't have the execution for it just s.HP. I've yet to see a place where Tundra is the right option, if it did a little bit more damage and gave you oki it could have some uses but right now it's just worthless.
Gief can be a lot of fun, but 90% of people online will try to lame you out with an up back strategy. Command grab is so scary they refuse to play footsies lol
I love to see some Zangief gameplay on this channel. I'm 48 minutes in and no one in the chat mentioned how good Siberian Express(especially EX) is versus Dhalsim? If the opponent hits your armor, Zangief kind of speeds up and grabs the opponent sooner than normal, even if it is a long-range normal like Dhalsim's. Get a couple of those and they really get scared to throw out those heavies from midscreen.
I love watching these guys (it always a Ryu) who rely on nothing but Drive impact get destroyed. They can’t help it, it’s all they got so they just continue to spam it no matter how many times you level them.
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this is late as hell but im the juri at 27:24. i watch these videos every now and then, i somehow never noticed that was me there. i was tabbed out reading something but then, hand on the bible, i recognized the specific noises juri makes during that one combo i hit you with. sad that we didnt get to finish the full set even though i normally kinda hate fighting gief i took a long break shortly after this was recorded, just started playing about a month ago and reached masters thanks for the videos homie
Don't play Gief if you can't SPD without jumping or buffering during a block string. Consistent walk up SPD is one of the major gates for high level Gief.
To basically the whole "flowchart" discussion at 1:15:02, what Sajam says is lazy and not working on solving long-term problems, I'll say the person on the other side probably doesn't know that there is a problem with what they're doing, ruling out lots of other buttons as not being good in neutral for X, Y, or Z. I'm sure he'd say the same thing about me, but if I knew what the problem was, I'd work on it.
"i didnt mean to do that, i meant to do standing medium kick. which also would've lost, but" so relatable
NO MERCY, NO REMORSE
Crossout?
No, A Wise CAPCOM's motto when it comes to grapplers! xD@@Brass_Heathen
I love geifs hype ultimate
Ooooryaaaa!
DUUUUUURIYAAAAAA
Hearing MY LOYAL FANS never gets old. But seriously lariat hit on both sides pls.
In fact make it even stronger if he hits it from behind
@@greenoftreeblackofblue6625😏
@@greenoftreeblackofblue6625 You're spittin, how dare you attempt to cross me up
I actually choked laughing when he whiffed his CA and yells "... OH NO MY FINISHER"
He says "Are you serious!?" when he misses his lvl 3. He should say "Are you serious, Capcom!?" when a j-MK phases through his lariat animation when crossing up.
The 5 stages of gief: sajam discovers just how bad zangiefs confirms are
I don't want Green Hand to go through projectiles, I just want a decent combo ender.
You forget the best confirm in the game jab jab dr spd 70% of the time it works 100% of the time
"5 stages of Gief" deserves a like on its own.
@@weakhunter13and go through projectiles
Im here from the future. Didn’t realize how badly he needed headbutt into hellstab
I can't help but laugh when Gief does his lvl 3 on Lily. Like this man is clotheslining a child and then caving in her head into the ground.
He’s also like SEVEN FOOT TWO
Somehow Honda level 3 on lightweights just feels mean, but Gieg level 3 is goofy enough to make it to funny
NO MERCY, NO REMORSE
I wish it was even more violent, like a mk fatality, Lily is so annoying for Gief I wanna see her neck break
@@StarkornSSB Lmao you just see the top half of her body gone and implanted in the ground.
The trick to instant air SPD is to do the spd input backwards. So instead of doing the 360 clockwise starting forward, start holding back then do counter clockwise. This input also makes sure running beargrab does not come out.
Edit: I'm sure sajam has figured out the air spd shortcut since these clips are from days ago streams but I just want to see other zangief players thrive.
ty king
Huge tip. I've lost so many rounds because I get bear grab, and the wiff animation is SO long.
Thank you 🙏
Wow I did play you ! Haha that’s so awesome . Good game Sajam! When you countered my Di after my level 3 route , i straight up crumbled . Very well played .
1:42:32 "He's bad because his moves just don't do stuff"
I felt that statement so hard as a Geif main 😢
I love Sajam sucking his teeth every time Lariat fails to hit behind him, because that is my exact same reaction too lmao.
Zangief whiffing LVL3 and CA is so funny to me, the VA nailed the delivery
TIME TO GET SERIOUS
@@xboxpenguin8705ARE U SERIOUS?
OH NO MY FINISHER
Finally he plays a top tier
For the final challenge Sajam needs to do random to master I would love to see that!
Yeah! Street Fighter 6 needs a Twelve! :D If it's anything like the rest of this series though, Sajam will test out in Diamond and then have a very short walk. Not really the life most of us are livin'. :3
The trick to grapplers is to rarely go for the command grab. Just let the THREAT of the CG scare the opposition into mistakes. You get to press buttons basically for free. I play Manon and I get to press buttons so freely 90 percent of the match.
But also remember to actually use it at least once so they Know. You got to make them think your crazy you have to hit them with shit to make them rethink their whole lifes.
@@greenoftreeblackofblue6625 The amount of times I've just jumped over someone and command grabbed them is hilarious in and of itself, but more so when afterwards they always jump whenever I get close, giving me a free qcf.k and just sending them into the corner
Manon is so fun. I never play grapplers because of the archetypal gief playstyle where you have to inch-worm across the screen and because big body wrestler type dudes don't appeal to me but Manon is a judo ballerina with a decent walk speed, addressing both reasons.
Which all falls apart the second you get called out for doing something stoopidly unsafe. i use the opposite of that in some cases.
Now that everyone thinks Manon is FREE they seem to think it's a great idea to just come swinging on a Practitioner of Judo? o.o
I think this is an issue with manon. her game plan is heavily weighted toward landing multiple command grabs and the threat only kicks in under ideal circumstances late in matches. idk how to buff her bc her game plan just seems weird at high level play. I think that threat is also skewed for gief bc his combos are so garbage, his damage is like 1 drink Jamie without spd
My advice for Zangief on low diamond:
Ex running bear grab works about 25x more times than you think it should
I will misinput running bear grab, and it will hit for no reason.
@@michaelchristian6096 I bet it feels kind of bad for Zangief players when they miss input and get it and then it just hits
Like, you're spending the whole set trying to figure out how to sneak in to land the big gamble, and then a mistake works instantly, with no effort at all
The eternal anguish between English Zangief for "MY LOYAL FANS" CA and Japanese Zangief for "FULL POWER DAH!" on Level 3......choices choices
Don't know if he discovered this later in the video but when doing Borscht Dynamite while grounded, don't do the half circle back shortcut. That input is too close to his other command grab so that will most likely come out instead. I would recommend the half circle forward shortcut or just a full circle if you like playing with your stick a lot.
Really good tip here thanks for the advice! I was messing that up a ton when learning gief
I can’t imagine doing 720’s on a leverless, can you even play grapplers at all on hitbox?
@nano-ue4pf the shortcut is to just slide your finger down all the buttons for the spd motion. I guess for 720 you just do it again
@@nano-ue4pf with a little practice you can do repeating half circles with your left and press up with your right hand between each loop and I've found it works really consistently for me. After maybe 20 minutes of practice I rarely missing a 1080 for Goldlewis.
I think I *kinda* understand why they did what they did to their grapplers in this game. I can't think of a street fighter game before SF6 where it's legitimately kinda tough to get plus frames without spending meter, and the idea of being minus at SPD range is just too spooky. It's the same reason they don't give grapplers invincible reversals: it doesn't feel good to be put in an RPS situation by your opponent even though you're the one running your offense.
That being said, Capcom's fears were unfounded, now give gief a jab confirm, make his lariat hit cross-up and give him a real level one.
They are so scared of making a good grappler but in the same breath make OD amnesia because they don’t think zoners are scary for the exact opposite reason.
Feels like the more damage you do off a single move the worse off you’ll be balanced for general play.
Zangief always brings out a level of emotion no other character can
☝🏼😡 JACK HAMMER
the serotonin spike from zangief lvl 3 is unmatched. favorite character in the game.
Watching this makes me respect Snakeyes even more. Which I didn't think was possible.
MY LOYAL FANS YOUR GOING TO MEMPHIS ALL OR NOTHING
BEAST MODE BABY ARRGH HEY HEY HEY
I tried gief and sim for the first time in this game, I cannot believe how unbelievably fun they both are. So glad I picked them up
DemonDan14's gonna be watching to be sure you don't out-style him and _his_ loyal fans.
A FUTILE EFFORT
@@weakhunter13I’M INVINCIBLE
I wish Demondan would climb to masters. His videos all are him at Diamond 1 styling on other Diamonds or Plats.
If nobody got me, I know my loyal fans got me. Can I get a doriiiya
Match-Up Specific Zangief Tech, Use Tundra Storm (dd hk) against Any Character Who Kicks In Their Drive Impact it'll get you out of jail in the corner way more often than you think it would
Also F HK is safe if you properly distance yourself & Light SPD has way further range than you think it does (If your standing LK can connect theyre in SPD range)
No, never Tundra Storm, ever. If you see DI just DI back, then you can H.SPD for 3270 or Russian Suplex for 2990 damage and sideswitch, both of those followups allow you to spend meter for oki, Tundra does a meager 2400 with no chance for oki (it's just +5f). If you're in burnout, you can L.SPD most DI attempts, hell, even 4HP, which works against ALL drive impacts, is a better answer because while it only does 1700, it leaves the opponent at the other side of the screen while you are +54F, which is plenty of time to get there and have oki. tl;dr JUST DON'T
@@Zetsumaru Too Many Words I Gave Up & Threw Out Tundra Storm Anyway & Had Fun
@Zetsumaru Broski they're saying you can do it if you're in burnout
@@rob0duck430 He doesnt really mention burnout anywhere but it's fine really, even in burnout there are better options :P
If nothing else, seeing Sajam struggle with the input stuff on Gief gives me comfort that it's not just me
It makes me laugh seeing Sajam get a stun and then jump, do nothing, land, and SPD.
I'm sure it's just the input, but it's just SO funny to see it after every other character does jump into air move, into combo, and Zangief just.
*Hop* ... *Land* *SPD*
LESGOO I GET TO SEE MY MAIN CLEAN HOUSE.
Edit:clean most of the house.
27:32 A random tip on ZAngief, tundra storm (his mostly useless counter stance) it is quite usefull on burnout against characters with kick Drive impacts like Juri or RAshid.
EDIT: Apparently you can't cancel from a heavy string, so you will still get checkmated anywayz, just ignore my comment. Was thinking if he can st.HP to counter DIs on burnout but I believe it is the same problem. Long startup
Whoa whoa whoa. That move isn't allowed to have actual consistent uses. Please delete this.
Old tech even then if set up on wake drive impact tundra storm will be too slow cause no lvl 1 wake up or “dp”
Not if they cancel into DI from medium or heavy since tundra storm has 6f startup. God they really hate that move.
t I said, then
They took green hand, but kept fucking tundra storm?
"TIME TO GET SERIOUS"
"ARE YOU SERIOUS??!?"
I hear what he's saying about people spamming their moves instead of trying to play the game properly, but I feel like it's more because they don't know what they're missing, because there's a lot more educational content out there that sounds like "this move is really really good" than "here's how you practice whiff punishing"
That thumbnail of Buff Bill. Ahhh i hate that episode. I always got grossed out by him getting squished by the gym equipment.😭
empty drive rush wins me so many games- people really don't like when gigantic green russian men naruto run at them
At this rate it's more surprising to see lariat actually work as an anti air than miss
“JACKHAMMER☝️” goes so hard
"Aw I was trying to hold up. . . I'm still gonna hold up," exactly how I play this game.
Its so painful to see chat not know shit about Zangief because he's so bad nobody studies him.
Like how they kept saying headbutt combos dont work off DI when they clearly do or telling Sajam to do the shittiest least resourceful punishes.
I wish I was there as the Gief lab freak to help 😔
I think Gief is headed towards being a character I could love- I love too many command normals, having 7 normal grabs is super sick, I do like big reads.. I just wish his defense was better right now, weirdly..? Like lariat should work, for sure, and the loss of flex v-skill seems painful.. But also some other stuff needs looked at- why is that how lvl 1 is??
I don't think I've felt more big brained than me seeing Sajam jump SPD for the sixth time and me just suddenly putting together that he can't do a standing 360 from neutral. Which I could have just assumed from the fact that he doesn't normally play grapplers.
Hellstabbin' Henry would've been the optimal name, ngl
The only two grapplers I've ever played is Potemkin from Strive and Zangief from SF6. Hearing Sajam talk about top-tier grapplers existing is relieving, but now I'm just mad I've only played the bottom-tier ones. Considering how much other characters get away with on a medium kick, Gief needs SOMETHING. Like, he has a whole other stomp string and a counter move which are never used because they lead to nothing (especially tundra storm, like, what the hell Capcom). Surprised Sajam never even mentioned them in this vid, but that's probably for the best.
Come back against the Cammy was nasty lol
I really wish the devs weren't afraid of their own game while they were making it.
Just characters with high damage numbers. Anyone who can vortex the hell outta you doesn’t carry the same fear for some reason.
IT'S TIME TO GET SERIOUS
ARE YOU SERIOUS?
THIS IS SERIOUS
SIBERIAN EXPRESSS!
To avoid the input overlap between air SPD and suplex/running bear grab, you can input air SPD by going 4268 instead of the regular 6248.
Watching him go through it makes me want a balance patch even more
I really think capcom did a god job with Gief’s design in sf6 overall but his supers really hold him back. Level 1 in particular not being a “get off me tool” as well as not working well as an anti air is rough
I've been looking forward to this and Manon since I like playing both of them and I'm hoping there's more good stuff I don't know about, like with Kimberly. Although with Kimberly, it was mostly random people saying she was bad, but I heard Manon was bad from Justin Wong so I'm not super hopeful.
Kimberly is not bad but shes defo hard to play against decent players half of the shit he did with kim would get demolished by ppl who know how she works i wouldve loved to see his kim against a good juri or even cammy 😂
Even while chastising other players for doing risky or fake stuff with Kim, a lot of the stuff he was doing has strong counters he or the people he was playing don't know about. I play Kim and my winrate against the character is absolutely massive. She has so much fake crap and avoidable mix.
@@alexmaganda5827 He says Kim was the easiest he got to master because no one actually stops him from doing his level 1 offense. Obviously that means that when people know how to stop her the match gets harder, but it doesn't automatically swing all the way in the other direction. There are good high level Kim players and a Kim also just won a major tournament. Yeah if you just run your level 1 offense against high master players you're gonna get demolished. You have to actually match their level of skill and matchup knowledge on your own character.
Bro saw more dhalsim in one episode than I have my entire life, and I’m a dhalsim main
If they could just give Zangief the quick lariat again and let me spend meter to keep it going I would be satisfied. I don't need green hand or an anti cross up lariat. It might be a skill issue on my part but I feel like he could be a little stronger and still be hard to use like he's supposed to be.
As much as I generally hate fighting grapplers, I hope they just give gief a gun, so he's at least interesting to fight against lol. Just kind of waddling around until the gief player commits with a severely punishable move lol. Feels like everyone can outrange him and generally react to a lot of his moves too because of how slow they are. He's like a sandwich with no insides. Like sure it'll get the job done sometimes, but this dude doesn't even have tomato going on.
Give him slide head and hammer fall frfr
@@snowys4168 At this point he needs magnetism so his mmm doesn't whiff lol. So idk give gief spark bolt or something.
This is like, 3 months late but the Gief-Blanka matchup can be summed up to: Blankaball loses to Bear grab unless it's EX and it's hilarious
i had never seen that ryu target combo in the first match in my life before that point
WITNESS MY FULL MIGHT!
45:48 nice timing lol
I don't get what's with all the drive rush cancels right before drive impact? Why not just drive impact if it's cancellable?
Stopping mid combo to do sneaky spd help out alot
FCUK YEAH MATESR GIEF
I know I'd hate it but i truly believe if you dont wanna give gief anything else at least give him more gauge than everyone else. I watch Itazan and my boy is always in drive debt trying to get in
27:29 My b if someone already told you this but you can kick reversal certain drive impacts that use their legs like cammy and juri, it's kinda your only option without level 2 or 3. But if you're against a punch drive impact character good luck. Imo gief should be able to reversal all drive impacts with it
You can light SPD all DI's and its a much better punish, you can also 5HP, which does less damage but gives you more breathing room and works on everyone. They really should buff tundra :(
@@Zetsumaru you definitely cannot light spd all DI’s, not in a block string when in burnout
@@MFGeedorah47kick counter is 6 frames, spd is 5, HP armor is four. Kick counter also doesn't let you out of the corner
@@MFGeedorah47 If you can't L.SPD a DI, you also can't Tundra Storm it, since it has one more startup frame. If you don't have the execution for it just s.HP. I've yet to see a place where Tundra is the right option, if it did a little bit more damage and gave you oki it could have some uses but right now it's just worthless.
Gief can be a lot of fun, but 90% of people online will try to lame you out with an up back strategy. Command grab is so scary they refuse to play footsies lol
TIME TO GET SERIOUS 💪🏾🔥💪🏾🔥💪🏾
I love to see some Zangief gameplay on this channel.
I'm 48 minutes in and no one in the chat mentioned how good Siberian Express(especially EX) is versus Dhalsim? If the opponent hits your armor, Zangief kind of speeds up and grabs the opponent sooner than normal, even if it is a long-range normal like Dhalsim's. Get a couple of those and they really get scared to throw out those heavies from midscreen.
I have a lot of success with rbg as a punish and lvl1 or jump back spd as an anti air. Ive also been able to beat some dp's with air spd.
Yesss. Zangyef vods
How do you get so many accidental lariats?
I don't think I've heard "Oh that doesn't work" so many times in a road to master
Dude..... why not Slamjam?
@39:43 my jaw actually dropped open
that Dee Jay wasn't only engaging with stand heavy punch. he also was engaging with drive impact a lot. get it straight!
1:05:18 that was gangsta af
Im cool with his play style they just need to slightly buff his mobility and buff lariat
This gon b good
22:40 that Luke color is so UGLY, yet so many people use it. I don't understand.
Ugly colors are the best to add to the opponents mental stack
I love watching these guys (it always a Ryu) who rely on nothing but Drive impact get destroyed. They can’t help it, it’s all they got so they just continue to spam it no matter how many times you level them.
Lol that last round he ate 5 or more counter Di’s.
You need to create a t-shirt that says, “That's unfortunate” with your picture on the front playing sf6
Bro I'm from MI (41 FENKELL UP), homie in chat talking about $30 oz is right but hes smoking shake and bottom nugz TMDNWU, get yourself Backpack Boys, Turtle Pie Co or Clout King 8ths that will cost more than ur poverty zip but u wont have to be a poor person, person. Plus you'll way higher, win/win TWU.
I can’t wait until they make the lariat hit behind and in front.
It works that way in world tour, so I'm sat here wondering why the hell it doesn't work that way in the normal game
Save your mental man. Just coming off COVID play Dhalsim or Ryu leave Geif for the end an stall for buffs lol
Diamond 👏👏👏
I LOVE BOBBY SCAR PEOPLESCHAMP
It is time for my sweet summer child
Off topic, kinda
Did i miss WIK this month or is it not happening this month?
The one the people needed
It's mad. I'm in Platinum 1 and when I charge back HP I eat a DI everytime, when you do it it's not getting punished.
THIS WILL BE YOUR LAST RIDE!
Doesn't use bear grab once the whole video... truly the no mixup mixup
this is late as hell but im the juri at 27:24. i watch these videos every now and then, i somehow never noticed that was me there. i was tabbed out reading something but then, hand on the bible, i recognized the specific noises juri makes during that one combo i hit you with. sad that we didnt get to finish the full set even though i normally kinda hate fighting gief
i took a long break shortly after this was recorded, just started playing about a month ago and reached masters
thanks for the videos homie
The billdozer sent me
most people after DI: cool combo
me after DI: haha od spd :3
I cannot believe that zangief forward throw resets to neutral. Wtf.
Down forward throw give oki
And held neutral throw is SPD jr.
when you have multiple throws that give you oki and you choose to do the one that doesn't that's kinda on you bro
which controller are you using?
looooo l10/10 thumbnail
Don't play Gief if you can't SPD without jumping or buffering during a block string. Consistent walk up SPD is one of the major gates for high level Gief.
FINALLY
Can't spell "grief without g-ief.
BUFF GIEF!, the only real character in this game!
Snake eyez won with Gief so getting master should be easy. 5head
To basically the whole "flowchart" discussion at 1:15:02, what Sajam says is lazy and not working on solving long-term problems, I'll say the person on the other side probably doesn't know that there is a problem with what they're doing, ruling out lots of other buttons as not being good in neutral for X, Y, or Z. I'm sure he'd say the same thing about me, but if I knew what the problem was, I'd work on it.