19 Year Old Entrepreneur Shocks Dragons With Their Pitch | Dragons' Den

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  • Опубліковано 8 сер 2022
  • Christian Lane is one of the youngest entrepreneurs to pitch in The Den. He's only 19 and made 10K from his previous business which he used to fund Foldio. Christian is seeking an investment of £80,000 in exchange for 15% but what will the Dragons' think of his negotiation tactics?
    Season 4, Episode 4
    An international sensation, Dragon's Den features entrepreneurs pitching for investment in the Den from our Dragons, five venture capitalists willing to invest their own money in exchange for equity.
    #DragonsDen #Foldio #YoungEntrepreneur
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  • @NatalieCWilliams
    @NatalieCWilliams Рік тому +83

    Impressive and humble young man. Wish him so much success in his venture and life overall!

  • @MrAxelStone
    @MrAxelStone Рік тому +345

    amazing how much more mellow and less dramatic the Dragon's Den is than Shark Tank...no over the top acting cringy presentations, dramatic music only at key moments...quite refreshing change from watching Shark Tank.

    • @ExtraordinaryFate
      @ExtraordinaryFate Рік тому +12

      Shark Tank has much more enjoyable investors though. They add life to the show.

    • @billymabum3514
      @billymabum3514 Рік тому +27

      @@ExtraordinaryFate it’s scripted

    • @bounmiibeagle7550
      @bounmiibeagle7550 Рік тому +7

      I watched Cuban in action today in SS, shouting everyone down. It was a painful soap opera.

    • @chatcool74
      @chatcool74 Рік тому +1

      @@billymabum3514 Not quite ! but some parts are cut yes, to fit the show.

    • @12345ngb
      @12345ngb Рік тому +8

      DD is much better than SS any day. SS Australia is the only one that I liked so far

  • @gdog7391
    @gdog7391 Рік тому +122

    Probably the best panel on the group at any one time. All class.

    • @Hiya_Pal
      @Hiya_Pal Рік тому

      Replace Debs with James Caan 👍🏽

    • @gdog7391
      @gdog7391 Рік тому +5

      Pretty sure that’s Deborah is one of the OG’s. Also, my comment was more reflective of an actual group that has actually existed at once.

    • @noonegirl
      @noonegirl Рік тому

      What does OG mean?

    • @rontdoit
      @rontdoit Рік тому +1

      @@noonegirl Original

  • @johnnyw2593
    @johnnyw2593 Рік тому +81

    That’s a perfect pitch. Short, right to the point without bells and whistles. What a smart young man.
    So many entrepreneurs are over sold their product. Performing such theatrical pitch and some won’t stop talking. Often, I find that when people keep talking is because they afraid of being challenged by the other party.

    • @TheEsotericProgrammer
      @TheEsotericProgrammer 4 місяці тому

      Thanks a lot! I really needed that today: I am smart, and I know that now.

  • @showbitz1
    @showbitz1 Рік тому +32

    I love how they helped him. And I noticed how theo tested him by asking him about percentage

  • @tommydenato8863
    @tommydenato8863 Рік тому +116

    No show makes me happier than Dragons Den. Seriously.

  • @codeXenigma
    @codeXenigma Рік тому +184

    Just read an article about Christian Lane, he's done pretty well. Nice to find success stories

    • @jessebella9322
      @jessebella9322 Рік тому

      @@zlatkostevanovic5891 Ok if you are going to secondee me, I ill Crocodile Dundee you, how about that

    • @marchumphreys3865
      @marchumphreys3865 Рік тому

      @@jessebella9322 why not ?

    • @jessebella9322
      @jessebella9322 Рік тому

      @@marchumphreys3865 Why not what not

    • @jessebella9322
      @jessebella9322 Рік тому +1

      @@marchumphreys3865 Thats true

    • @marchumphreys3865
      @marchumphreys3865 Рік тому +1

      @@jessebella9322 well before you deleted your first comment you asked why ? , so yeah I replied and said why not ? Lol Have a great day.

  • @randomtask9029
    @randomtask9029 Рік тому +41

    Should have jumped to 25% with a view to settling at 30%. 35% was too much too quickly.

    • @Matt24.
      @Matt24. 22 дні тому

      I would of said 25%

  • @alirehman4858
    @alirehman4858 Рік тому +51

    First time seeing any dragon refusing to share with Peter Jones and that too so blatantly.

    • @jumble-1238
      @jumble-1238 Рік тому +7

      Had a feeling Theo wouldn’t budge. I think the comments all the others gave about his experience caused his arrogance to rise even higher than usual.

    • @bluerock9238
      @bluerock9238 Рік тому +3

      They were investing in the person more than his product......

    • @drnureini7538
      @drnureini7538 Рік тому +2

      @@jumble-1238 i actually think if peter went direct on sharing the money with Theo, then Theo would have accepted it. But the fact that he tried to negotiate and give 5% back on top of that for no clear reason when the pitcher is happy with the percentage was the reason Theo rejected it. It's like saying young man Theo is stealing you so me and him will join and we will give you 5% back lol.
      That's why you can also see Theo took his time to explain why he prefers to be alone and you can hint the reasons are related to the fact that peter acting like negotiating a good deal for the pitcher.
      I don't usually see Peter going wrong in negotiations but this one he went wrong , he should have either offered a competitive offer or just shared the percentage without the unnecessary blabla

    • @AbhishekSanyalTGV
      @AbhishekSanyalTGV 4 місяці тому

      Peter back then was probably not the richest and most influential.

  • @shmmazz
    @shmmazz Рік тому +71

    Honestly cruel of the other dragons to back out before Theo made an offer. Gave him all the leverage to ask for a bigger percentage

    • @nf6386
      @nf6386 Рік тому +4

      A bit of a D move by Theo to signal enthusiastic interest and then pause without making an offer.

    • @barobaro1
      @barobaro1 Рік тому +4

      You expected millionaires to be decent and considerate human beings???. . . I'm sorry but that's your own fault cuz they'll always disappoint you in that aspect.

    • @scienceevolves4417
      @scienceevolves4417 Рік тому +4

      @@nf6386 it's called "experience in business negotiations"

    • @hotsizler305
      @hotsizler305 4 місяці тому

      ​@@barobaro1 Spoken like a bitter commie

  • @zainad3878
    @zainad3878 Рік тому +5

    Boy was so clever... He knew exactly what he was looking for

  • @ck5404
    @ck5404 Рік тому +48

    excellent pitch, cool calm and collective, especially from a 19 year old.he will succeed

  • @carospinks
    @carospinks Рік тому +15

    Super smart, no b/s, loved how he said 35pct, see how Theo smiled and appreciated it. They will have a great working relationship. This was made a while ago and so I hope Christian is doing well under Theo’s mentorship.

  • @keltiquewood
    @keltiquewood Рік тому +25

    Duncan declaring himself out is NOT a bombshell!!!

    • @butchcoolidge2445
      @butchcoolidge2445 Рік тому +1

      I'd agree with that. I do however think the bombshell was moreso him saying he didn't think it was a good product.

    • @Junaid-vw6zg
      @Junaid-vw6zg Рік тому +1

      @@butchcoolidge2445 he also said he could be wrong straight after

    • @butchcoolidge2445
      @butchcoolidge2445 Рік тому

      @@Junaid-vw6zg That's to save face in case it's a hit. They've been wrong before and missed out on big opportunities.

  • @stenkjellin1046
    @stenkjellin1046 Рік тому +21

    Patent: How to fold a paper.

  • @perryrush6563
    @perryrush6563 Рік тому +6

    2:41 that is the sign of respect and appreciation

  • @ali-celebi
    @ali-celebi Рік тому +3

    Truly inspiring!

  • @ianoliver7271
    @ianoliver7271 Рік тому +6

    Well done, laddie, a great performance!!

  • @cannibalfish2429
    @cannibalfish2429 Рік тому +4

    Good for him, he’s going places

  • @erepsekahs
    @erepsekahs Рік тому +7

    A VERY bright young man. He and Theo are fortunate to have met each other.

  • @pamelamckenzie2685
    @pamelamckenzie2685 Рік тому +56

    Fantastic young man, he will go far in life well done young man.

    • @itscatiooo
      @itscatiooo Рік тому +7

      keep in mind that this episode is from 10+ years ago

    • @Joe-Mama25
      @Joe-Mama25 Рік тому +3

      Well I’m pretty sure his company is dissolved now so I wonder how he’s doing.

    • @Romans8-9
      @Romans8-9 Рік тому +1

      @@Joe-Mama25 He has another company.

  • @derekogilvie6942
    @derekogilvie6942 Рік тому +1

    Absolutely fantastic

  • @BigBundy82
    @BigBundy82 Рік тому +44

    I truly think valuing the business at 230k and investing 80k for 35% is quite fair for both parties…Theo is lucky to have such a savvy , up and coming business magnate- And the young guy is extremely lucky to have Theo onboard.. Awesome 😎

    • @alexcalhoun1382
      @alexcalhoun1382 Рік тому +7

      Bro this is 17 years old lol

    • @coldestbeer
      @coldestbeer Рік тому +3

      This was 20 years ago & i still see students from architecture carrying those black mega folders over this.

    • @Romans8-9
      @Romans8-9 Рік тому +1

      @@coldestbeer His company dissolved because of cloud storage and tablets. He started a company that focuses on smart kitchen products which is apparently doing quite well.

  • @stonecold6521
    @stonecold6521 Рік тому +47

    Peter should have gone for 25%. I thought that was fair.

    • @dtz1000
      @dtz1000 Рік тому +6

      Undercutting another dragon would be too damaging to his ego.

    • @stonecold6521
      @stonecold6521 Рік тому

      @@dtz1000 I get that. That's why they very rarely undercut. It's just Theo is an expert in this area. I think 25% is fairly reasonable considering the intitial offer.

    • @davidhuckett5615
      @davidhuckett5615 Рік тому

      ​ 1

  • @jaywalkercrew4446
    @jaywalkercrew4446 Рік тому +19

    Obviously this teenager has had guidance by an elder. Take nothing away from the guy. Amazing achievements at such a young age.

    • @forhimbyher2689
      @forhimbyher2689 Рік тому +1

      Yes but also not always. I have a similar story. Started from nothing , no parents

    • @Dadaadad268
      @Dadaadad268 4 місяці тому

      @@forhimbyher2689😅

  • @aaronhurst4379
    @aaronhurst4379 Рік тому +7

    Apparently this guy is now CEO of smart home appliance company Smarter

  • @MaroonedInDub
    @MaroonedInDub Рік тому +2

    I know nothing about carrying these things but what struck me was that it could possibly do with a tube of foam along the fold to prevent accidental creasing.

    • @getin3949
      @getin3949 Рік тому

      It's probably made of something fairly stiff but since we didn't really get to see it or test it, I agree with you.

  • @leighpowley8410
    @leighpowley8410 Рік тому +1

    Goodness gracious! What a fantastic turn of events! 🤩💖🤩

  • @2strokepower
    @2strokepower 4 місяці тому +1

    He was the best pitch going Theo didn’t even say anything bad and he usually does this the whole time

  • @DeusExWhyZed
    @DeusExWhyZed Рік тому +8

    Peter was right to put that out there.

  • @TuanJinnNguyen
    @TuanJinnNguyen Рік тому +5

    My lord, what a bright, incredible young man!

  • @edwardsnowdenofficial
    @edwardsnowdenofficial Рік тому

    Peters face was a picture at the end lol!

  • @LV2UJC-FM
    @LV2UJC-FM Рік тому +3

    Impressive, to say the least.
    The adults going into the Dragons Den should be taking notes about the way this 19-year-old conducted himself with his mannerism and pitch to the Dragons, and learn how you can make a deal.

  • @TheMusicalElitist
    @TheMusicalElitist Рік тому +2

    He’s now the CEO of a company called Smarter that produces smart kitchen gadgets.

  • @djstrudy6053
    @djstrudy6053 Рік тому +4

    Why can I go through hours of watching these🤣

  • @alonelywitch4042
    @alonelywitch4042 Рік тому

    It’s so funny to me to go from Dragons Den to Shark Tank. ST just *oozes* America😂😂

  • @mmckenzie8085
    @mmckenzie8085 Рік тому +1

    I think because Theo was a hero of his it affected his negotiating skills. He jumped straight to 35% not really giving himself an out. If Theo had refused and not counter offered he still could have accepted. However glad to hear he is successful and yes Theo was the man for the job to fast track this. I still get the impression with this young man he would have made it anyway, it would have just taken longer.

  • @maszimz
    @maszimz Рік тому

    Wonder if it was re branded or if folio is a different brand.

  • @uriituw
    @uriituw Рік тому +3

    “…with _their_ pitch?”
    With _his_ pitch!

    • @jedross2136
      @jedross2136 5 місяців тому

      I thought I was getting a bout of tinnitus but thankfully it was just the sound of all the bees in your bonnet.

  • @peteperry5712
    @peteperry5712 Рік тому

    What a star!

  • @thehop639
    @thehop639 Рік тому +8

    15% to 35% clever boy but that was a silly move.... could have easily kept hold of 10% there!

    • @cuilcaghboardwalk5585
      @cuilcaghboardwalk5585 Рік тому

      Totally agree. Theo couldn’t believe his luck.
      His whole lifetime ideas for 35%.!
      Also he had invested 18mnths and £10,000 in the business.
      Theo got a bargain

  • @frankie3778
    @frankie3778 Рік тому

    ... sooo he reinvented the folder... gratz. flat, bent, folded, creased, i use them synonymously xD.

  • @seanjosephhayes
    @seanjosephhayes Рік тому

    Why wouldn’t people use the cylindrical tubes over these folders? Yes there isn’t a sharp, folded crease but when he demonstrates the folder you can see a slight bend/crease in the paper in the middle which doesn’t happen with the cylindrical tubes and the paper can be then rolled up the opposite way to undo any curling? 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @murilogoulart4935
    @murilogoulart4935 Рік тому +5

    Brilliant, Christian and Theo can be a perfect combination.
    Greetings from Danmark 🤜 🇩🇰 🤛

  • @harrisonsbookheaven835
    @harrisonsbookheaven835 Рік тому

    Duncan drops a bombshell…lol

  • @chriscurran7756
    @chriscurran7756 Рік тому +1

    When u don't have enough dips for your domino's....

  • @b-dogs1038
    @b-dogs1038 Рік тому

    He only had eyes for Theo. & good on Theo for sticking to his guns @ 35%.

  • @stellajoseph3383
    @stellajoseph3383 Рік тому

    He is very impressive

  • @RebinQaderi
    @RebinQaderi Рік тому

    The dirty look Theo gave Peter
    That blew me away😂

  • @Wuhlz
    @Wuhlz Рік тому +4

    Bottom line, Christian should have went to 25% and it would have been countered at 30%, he gave up 5% more than he needed to. Peter was simply trying to "correct" Christians mistake of offering 35%.
    Totally understandable on Christians part though being 19.

  • @RTG1031
    @RTG1031 Рік тому

    Fair play Peter

  • @ivanriverooo
    @ivanriverooo Рік тому +3

    Love this show everyday more.
    First comment 🥇 yeah! 👏

  • @jamesmcintyre1675
    @jamesmcintyre1675 Рік тому

    The dragons probably discussed this pitch beforehand that Theo maybe best dragon to get his stationary invention off of the ground.

  • @thechanneloffun3760
    @thechanneloffun3760 Рік тому +3

    Theo has finally found his long lost son

  • @prizma45
    @prizma45 Рік тому +1

    you have to be born tall, jbw, iq to have the early bird start and major competitive edge
    all down to luck

  • @pinayinuk
    @pinayinuk Рік тому

    Great

  • @SRPC21
    @SRPC21 Рік тому

    Please put these old/new series on Britbox !

  • @STEVELILLEY011117
    @STEVELILLEY011117 Рік тому +1

    Company status
    Dissolved

  • @mickharrison9004
    @mickharrison9004 Рік тому +10

    Just looking at the fella tells you he's a winner ,and will succeed .

    • @gerardford9706
      @gerardford9706 Рік тому

      Listen up MickTheDick, in this life you're either a smart fella or a fart smella

  • @livingwithosteoarthritis.
    @livingwithosteoarthritis. 6 місяців тому

    I never really watched it back then. It seems more more business like more scary like a dragons den should be

  • @blackchalksounds5278
    @blackchalksounds5278 Рік тому +13

    But Theo owns him now. All his future inventions are now with theo and his kids.

    • @sambou6286
      @sambou6286 Рік тому +1

      to secure the inheritance ........😁😁

    • @Romans8-9
      @Romans8-9 Рік тому

      No they aren´t. His first company dissolved.

  • @jf1341
    @jf1341 Рік тому

    Peter almost torpedoed it

  • @mhondapineda1265
    @mhondapineda1265 7 місяців тому

    if you noticed he really wanted Theo by handling over sample first

  • @00Kuja00
    @00Kuja00 Рік тому +1

    Impressive, he would be around my age now I think.

    • @sebastiangranlund1357
      @sebastiangranlund1357 Рік тому +1

      It depends if you were the same age this year he pitched ;)

    • @00Kuja00
      @00Kuja00 Рік тому +1

      @@sebastiangranlund1357 I was 20 when it aired.

  • @Marjopolo302
    @Marjopolo302 Рік тому

    Big future for that young lad... Not sure about the folder ..

  • @martincarr7486
    @martincarr7486 Рік тому

    The title says their, it should be his

  • @veganvixenhelen
    @veganvixenhelen Рік тому +2

    I think that the Dragons have a secret code to tell each other what their intentions are. A sign for 'this is mine' or 'I'll go halves with you.' What do you think?

  • @XO43137
    @XO43137 Рік тому +4

    He could've offered 30%, not 35%.

  • @patricktate4782
    @patricktate4782 Рік тому

    RIP Chris Kaba

  • @tashinatorgaming9674
    @tashinatorgaming9674 Рік тому +2

    RIP Staples. Atleast the branch where i am. I think the company is still going strong. Also, since when do Dragons care about experience in the field?! Isn't this all about money...?

    • @Paaraadox
      @Paaraadox Рік тому +2

      The experience part is basically this:
      Theo has immense competence in this field, meaning essentially any competitive offer some other Dragon could put forward wouldn't be worth it for them, because Theo would still be a preferred investor, even at let's say double the price. Now, if Theo chooses *not* to invest, that essentially means he doesn't see potential in the product, in a field where has lots of knowledge. So some other Dragon thinking "hey, this is a good product" now sees the most knowledgable person in the room not wanting anything to do with it. So why would someone who has *less* knowledge think to know better than him?

    • @tgchikukwa6947
      @tgchikukwa6947 Рік тому +1

      Theo owns stationery chain Ryman and Robert Dyas.

  • @Hutchyy
    @Hutchyy Рік тому

    That must have hurt Peter's ego lol

  • @SpinradN
    @SpinradN Рік тому

    Back to the analog era, now all you need is usb flash drive.

  • @ethancampbell314
    @ethancampbell314 Рік тому

    I feel like this one was more an investment in Christian himself more than the product

  • @TribalThief
    @TribalThief Рік тому +1

    Duncan pure jealosy 😂😂😂

  • @CheekyFest
    @CheekyFest Рік тому

    Incorporated on 3 November 2006 / dissolved 8 September 2015

  • @illuderebeliarh1260
    @illuderebeliarh1260 Рік тому +1

    And this, people, is how Theo the Phoetus became a millionaire. 😂

  • @pabbaditya
    @pabbaditya Рік тому

    This is just a binder.

  • @Terranova339
    @Terranova339 5 місяців тому

    Thank god for peter for jumping in, and making greedy Theo squirm in his chair

  • @ruperttristanblythe7512
    @ruperttristanblythe7512 Рік тому

    Just roll it and put it in a tube

  • @karimamadiaswad3413
    @karimamadiaswad3413 Рік тому +5

    Uploader, the word you're looking for is 'his'.

  • @anubusx
    @anubusx Рік тому +5

    Jenny: Scissors beats paper. I'm out.

  • @christophersmith49
    @christophersmith49 Рік тому +4

    Well there was not really any 'export". Just import. Buying from China cheap and sell for more domestic.

  • @Moretti19728
    @Moretti19728 Рік тому +2

    " but Duncan bannatyne" that phrase is always followed usually by some downfall lol

  • @hugoschkiglitz
    @hugoschkiglitz Рік тому

    Peter, ouch.

  • @ricketymortmort
    @ricketymortmort Рік тому

    Unintentional ASMR

  • @thewhitelawfamily
    @thewhitelawfamily Рік тому

    He is young and to offer him all future creations/inventions was not a good idea.

  • @Misty_Mountains1
    @Misty_Mountains1 Рік тому +1

    Theo ripped him off blindly

  • @TechGamesAU
    @TechGamesAU Рік тому

    Why does it look like 200 pixels of resolution

    • @stuartcommon4651
      @stuartcommon4651 Рік тому

      Because you're watching on a Nokia 3310

    • @seanjosephhayes
      @seanjosephhayes Рік тому

      Because it was broadcast around 16 years ago apparently. Before the time of such good picture quality we have these days. Probably before the time of even 720p or 1080p.

  • @omipower9389
    @omipower9389 Рік тому +3

    Our man be dropshopping but calling it import/Export from mainland china

    • @Dadaadad268
      @Dadaadad268 4 місяці тому

      Before 'drop shipping'

  • @imanishay
    @imanishay Рік тому +5

    What i really like about dragons den is when dragons know theres another dragon better suited they say that and declare themselves out rather than tryin to be greedy themselves they know whats best for the new entrepreneurs

  • @Conannnnn
    @Conannnnn Рік тому +10

    Impressive young lad. How is he doing now?

    • @zaidahmed9527
      @zaidahmed9527 Рік тому +5

      @Lee Claxton CEO of Smarter, smart kitchen appliances company generating £mm revenues

    • @barsnack7999
      @barsnack7999 Рік тому +2

      Selling 50$ wifi kettles for 129 pound

    • @zaidahmed9527
      @zaidahmed9527 Рік тому +2

      @@barsnack7999 lol yes wouldn't say its a company I'd use 😂

    • @patricktate4782
      @patricktate4782 Рік тому

      Batty boy

  • @crewrangergaming9582
    @crewrangergaming9582 Рік тому +1

    Say what you want Dragon's Den is always better to me than Shark Tank.. love the dark.. serious tone of this than its sister shows.

  • @mtd4577
    @mtd4577 Рік тому +4

    He gave Theo the product first before others... That's the signal

  • @italgong
    @italgong Рік тому

    his pitch

  • @chrismcadam8413
    @chrismcadam8413 Рік тому +2

    Oh my word those folders are huge, what a struggle that must not have been 🙄

  • @whatiswrongwithme5375
    @whatiswrongwithme5375 Рік тому

    Doesn't he remind y'all of Thomas Shelby?

  • @drunkdunc8738
    @drunkdunc8738 Рік тому +6

    Christian was in a bind until Theo stepped up to the crease with some folding stuff 🍻

  • @andrewwilliams7501
    @andrewwilliams7501 Рік тому

    His pitch

  • @STRATLOB
    @STRATLOB Рік тому

    I have this in China

  • @thesubinejelly8764
    @thesubinejelly8764 Рік тому +1

    His*