your the only guy who got it right with 6 quarts for AWD, just did my 2017, let it drain for 1 hour and put 5 full quarts in and still nothing dripping from the check bolt, car was perfectly level.
Thank you for creating the video, it made the CVT fluid change very straightforward and easy. FWIW, our 2017 CRV AWD EXL took ~4.75 quarts until fluid came out of the check bolt hole.
Great video thank you just did same process 2wd 4quarts added and that’s what came out ran gears back and forth nothing came out added just a little from a spare quart nothing came out so I waited 10-20 minutes and started to drip so thankfull thanks again Aloha from Oahu….
Thank you Paul appreciate you sharing your experience with us I did my CVT rear end and an oil change today and found the advice quite valuable! Great job!
Very well done how to video. Just did my CRV AWD today. At first I was a little nervous that I didn’t have enough fluid with the 5 quarts I purchased since it took almost all 5 before I started the car and went through the gears. When I went back and added just a little bit it started draining through the check hole so it worked out well.
But if it was previously overfiilled or under filled then you would be doing the same. So use the check bolt hole the 1st time you do it. Over years I have seen new vehicles from the factory not filled correctly. This is rare but has happened. Also never trust a new to you used vehicle. Conclusion is to always use the check method on any automatic transmission or CVT, Continuously Variable Transmission the 1st time you change fluid.
So odd seeing a crv that's clean, including the interior! Former Honda employee here...and they were always so gross. Even crvs with 15,000 miles were utterly destroyed. People beat them bad up here. HR-Vs even more so, then believe it or not the FITs that always came in were used as farm vehicles. Not even kidding.
AS of today 1/1//2020, I have changed the fluid twice in mine, once at the first oil change, then again at 30K and I will do it again at 60K. From what I can gather talking to my two tech at the dealership next to my job, we share a parking lot and that is where I buy my parts from. FYI do yourself the favor and only buy the Honda OEM parts and fluids, its not going to break the bank and it saves you money in the long run, IE...$55 bucks in fluid or $2500+ for the trans job... I do my changes myself and have always bought five quarts each time. Rumor I have heard is yes there is a filter that you can replace, its behind the trans heater. That by 90K your still getting metal particles and not just the dark sludge then your going to want to change it out, IF at that mark you pull the drain bolt and you get nothing on the drain bolt magnet or just the normal sludge then the trans is fine. I always do this service when it is warm or even somewhat hot, the time it takes to get it on the front ramps and get it level, lay out the tools, glove up, and get all my parts in order, it has cooled down enough to not be cold but not be hot and that seems to get more fluid out. I have always poured in four and a half quarts before I heard anything drain out the check bolt. The rear diff fluid change is the harder one top do then anything, just without a lift it makes it awkward to do it.
@@rafars2246 No reason to change the brake fluid out yet, I might do it once the vehicle reaches five calendar years of my ownership. Oil changes and the other two fluid changes are all I have been doing on the dot. This car also seems to have the air filter get dirty faster then any other vehicle I have owned. Three so far since march 2018, not just take out of air box and knock off the dust but legitimately dirt and debris stuck in the media of the filter, doing the job as intended but yes that little engine must be really sucking in some air flow.
@@TeamPaulie2520 true about the filter, and even more the cabin air filter! O was saying about the brake fluid because I use a bit over a gallon of fluid every time. That'll cost me a fortune with the honda brand.
Use amsoil 100% synthetic. Changed mind at 7500 miles. In a 2018 Honda CR-V. Amsoil in the engine. Getting 40 m/p/g. It only cost pennies more to go first class. Amsoil in the engine and transmission.
Just did mine 2018 CRV LX 2.4L non-turbo on 7-26-20, after you drain the trans oil out, put back the drain bolt and make sure the check bolt is still in and hand tight, I make a mistake while refilling the new oil with the check bolt out, the 1st quart I pour in, about 30% to 40 % came out of the check bolt, " MAKE SURE CHECK BOLT IS IN FOR THE INITIAL FILLING", if not half goes inside the trans and half leak out thru the check bolt, on my 2.4L engine, I will do 3.5Q with the check bolt in, and top off slowly with check bolt out. Another tips, after you drain and put back the drain bolt, the rest can be done from the top thru the engine bay, while the car is sitting on all 4 wheels and level. As of now, because of the initial loss of the new oil coming out from the check bolt(loss about 1/2 Q) , I had the whole 4 Q and still cannot top off the trans, car take 3.9 Q. That's is what I'm going to do tomorrow, get another quart from Honda and top it off thru the engine bay!!!!!!
Thank you for this tutorial. You may want to update this to reflect that this is only applicable to 1.5L engines, not the 2.4L LX models. On those, the plug and fill port are directly under the water outlet that goes to the lower radiator hose.
@PaulNaylor3 I have the 2.4 Liter LX model. I drained about 6 qts of trans fluid but can only refill 3 qts without it spilling out the check bolt. Any idea why?
No, I’m not familiar with that engine. Does your transmission fluid have a dipstick where you can check the level? The 1.5L turbo does not but I don’t know if yours does.
Thanks for the informative video. I just wanted to clarify, when you cycle through all the gears, must the wheels be turning, right? I was about to purchase a ramp, LOL, so it would be faster when I do change the engine oil and filter in the future.
Thank you for the video...very helpful. Subscribed. One question though, when you cranked the engine and went through the gears...do you have the check bolt in , or do I leave it out? Thanks 👍
Mike Barbier Hi Mike. At 4:08 I mentioned that the check bolt is hand tightened while I go through the gears. I’m glad the video was helpful and thank you for the encouraging comment.
Rather than loosen the check bolt and have to crawl under again to check a couple of times I just pour the fluid that I drained from the transmission into a 1 gallon milk container and then fill another rinsed 1 gallon milk container with the new transmission fluid to the same level (amount) as the old fluid and then pour the new in. easy peasy.
This works well as long as you know the right amount of fluid was in there to begin with. It would also work if you were the last one to change it. I think I would only be comfortable doing it that way after I had first done it with the check bolt to make sure I had the right amount of fluid to start with. It does make it a lot easier and once you know how much fluid it takes I agree with you and have plans to do it that way in the future now that I’ve done it this other way enough times to know what to expect.
Excellent demonstration, clear and concise, but on your second go around did you always have the engine running or did you finish adding the fluid until it dripped out with the engine off?
@@PaulNaylor3 Paul, so when you top it off, I take that to mean you can just add enough fluid at that point until it runs out and when it stops running, then install the check plug and the job is done. ?? Thanks again.
Yes. You would be adding fluid slowly so when it comes out you can put your check bolt back in. You don’t even have to wait for it to stop dripping. Thank you for your questions.
When you are adding the fluid you should notice pretty quickly that it’s dripping. You could wait until that drip slows down to a very slow drip and then put the bolt in.
Question, So I am doing mine now and was wondering if the level of the car makes a difference. I have it on ramps and wonder if I should raise the back to label out the car. And by the way, Great video!!!! Thanks!!! P.S.Wondering because I put five qt in before I got a trickle.
I have a 2017 CRV 2WD and I was surprised there was no way to check the transmission fluid level . I have 40,000 miles on the car now and I will be changing the fluid . I may let the honda dealer change the fluid for me . I have one question to ask . On all my other cars when I change the automatic fluid , I would install a FILTER . Does this cars transmission have a filter that needs to be replaced when installing fluid ? I am somewhat confused . Thanks for your video and you make it look pretty straight forward and not too difficult to do at home other than having 4 jack stands .
CVT Fluid: Honda HCF-2; capacity is 4.5 quarts (4.3 liters) for AWD models and 3.9 quarts (3.7 liters) for 2WD models. Paul you are saying use 6 quarts for AWD and 5 quarts FWD why? see fluid specs for Honda above
I just put only 4.5 quarts in like the book says. Nothing drained out of the check plug. I just closed it back up. Im thinking, should I have continued to pour more fluid in until it started to drip out? Confused.
Hey Paul. Thanks you for your vids again. I have an 17 ex awd myself and these vids help me. 1 question I noticed that there is a “check” bolt and a drain bolt. What is the check bolt for? And what’s the torque value for the check and drains? Thanks again man. About to do this at 26k on the car.
Check bolt is the max fill level so, when the bolt is removed, and you fill with fluid, the excess fluid drains out. Check bolt is the upper one, drain bolt is the lower one. Drain Bolt: 3/8” square, 18 mm crush washer Drain Bolt Torque: 36 lb-ft (lower bolt) Check Bolt: 12 mm crush washer Check Bolt Torque: 15 lb-ft (higher bolt)
Nice video. Any recommendations on how to make sure the vehicle is perfectly leveled? I usually use laser level to project the light on the lift points. Would that work?
Hey man thanks for your videos, I have a question: is it better to change the car oil when the car was parked (engine off) days ago or when the engine was recently turn off 👍
Thanks for your videos, I changed mine last week, I have a Honda CR-V LX 2.4l 2017, after following the procedure , at the end when I removed the check bolts it did sprinkle out fluid but it was more than your vehicle (it was sprinkling for minutes) do you think I might have done the procedure incorrectly or depends on which vehicle I have
@@davidc2023 I was reading up on this and the UA-cam consensus is that the transmission fluid level is RIGHT when it drips out of the check bolt hole after performing the shift procedure. If fluid does not come out upon removing the check bolt, then it is understood that the fluid is actually low and needs filling (until it drips happily out of the check bolt hole).
Total capacity is 8 quarts and when you change it you’re changing around 4 1/2 to 5 quarts. Keep in mind that Honda is well aware of this and they set the maintenance schedule at 30,000 mile intervals.
This is a correction to some word corrections. Training should be ( draning) one point should be (1 pint) my speech recognition program is not completely accurate as of yet. Should state in the morning. The transmission fluid was cold.
Hi Mark. From what I understand a small percentage of 2017 models had the issue you are talking about. I sent two samples from early oil changes to a lab to be tested for this and both came back in good condition. Honda identified the Vin numbers and sent out letters to those affected and increased the warranty on all of the other models even the ones that were not affected. I am extremely happy with this car and have over 65,000 miles on it so far with no problems. It’s fun to drive, I get 30 miles per gallon with all wheel drive, it accelerates well, and it has plenty of room for people and cargo. It drives so smoothly over bumps and the road imperfections. I definitely recommend it. As to the negative comments you read about on the Internet, this is my take on that: I think only the people that have owned the vehicle with the oil dilution problems are the ones that have a right to complain about it. I understand why they are upset and I think everyone would be in their position. A small percentage of owners complaining on Internet forums and UA-cam comments can skew the facts because there are hundreds of thousands of models that have no problems. A lot of people don’t like consumer reports, but they surveyed a large amount of owners and determined that the problem was limited to a very small percentage. Also, if you change your oil every 5000 miles with full synthetic like I do, a small amount oil dilution is not likely to harm your engine. I hope that helps.
Mine took 3.5 quarts for my 2016 awd cr-v. I couldn’t use the check bolt method because the fluid came out as I was adding the first quart. Just measured what comes out then add the same amount.
Great video, Thank you for this. The only thing i dont see mentioned that is in the service manual is draining it at operating temperature. Im also wondering if it needs to be filled at temperature as well. thanks!
Hi Brayden. Most fluids drain better when hot, so running the vehicle prior to performing the service may help. However, once you begin changing the fluid, you will be okay using room temperature fluid for your fill. Even if the car has been sitting and is not warm, a simple drain & fill will still work just fine.
Question, So I am doing mine now and was wondering if the level of the car makes a difference. I have it on ramps and wonder if I should raise the back to lavel out the car. And by the way, Great video!!!! Thanks!!!
thanks for the video! I have done exactly as adviced in the video on my CRV Touring (AWD), 2015. It took 5 quarts without any leakage from the check bolt! And it HAS a filter, which i changed too. So what is wrong? Should i remove back have of quart now ?
Serhii Mazurov Your 2015 is different than the 2017. But, you keep adding until fluid leaks out of the check bolt. In the video you see that mine also took more than what I thought it would. I hope that helps
Hi Paul, I’m @ 35,000 miles I see the car is requesting A 126 service not sure if it ever requested a cvt fluid change. I figure changing both the diff and trans fluid together is a good idea. I’ve got three ?’s Did your car request a cvt fluid change since owning the car or did you do it as an early precaution @10k? Where can I get the crush washers for the two jobs (do you have the item #, or link from northern lights)? Where do you generally source your fluids and filters from?
I changed mine at 10k but I believe the owner's manual recommends 30k. I would encourage you to change your rear differential fluid every 10k if you have AWD. I would recommend checking the price of the HCF-2 at your Honda dealer and compare that with Amazon. It was cheaper for me at the Honda dealer. As far as the crush washers, I purchased them from Amazon. Here is the link for the 18mm crush washer: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ET6UXLC/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I changed my trans fluid the other week. I put in 4.5 queats like the book says. The check hole never leaked any fluid out, so I just closed it up. Should I have poured in more fluid until it started to drip out the check hole? Confused. Also parts guy at Honda dealership, says his techs only ask for 4 quarts when doing a drain refill.
1. Drain the fluid 2. Tighten the drain plug 3. Fill the tranny through the plug with whatever amount you got 4. Start the car and cycle through each gear for 3 sec and turn it off 5. Crack the check bolt wait till the fluid almost stops dripping 6. Tighten the check bolt 7. Hope you find it helpful
Hey Paul, I am a bit confused still. When filling up the vehicle with CVT fluid, I have a FWD CRV 2015. Do we need 5 quarts? Your description states 5, I just bought 3 quarts. I am also a bit hazy on after putting in the 3-4 qtz of CVT, you start the car with break and go through each stage. Do we add the remaining quartz of CVT after that? I hope my questions make sense. Thank you for the video BTW!
As far as capacity, you may want to have 5 on hand just in case. @3:23 mentions that the check bolt is out, meaning that, as you add fluid, once it is full, it will begin to spill out. Then, you hand tighten your check bolt, run through the gears, then remove the check bolt and fill again until it spills out. So, yes, you add the remaining fluid after that. You are adding fluid only until it spill out the check bolt. I hope this helps.
Very interesting that the CRV has a check bolt, that is a very handy feature. Im now wondering if my '15 Civic has this check bolt to prevent overfill...
It is recommended every 30,000 miles. I did mine the first time at 10,000 miles just because of the shavings that come off during the break-in period. So you could do it every 48,000 km unless you want to do your first change around 16,000 km.
Paul Naylor yes there is. www.bernardiparts.com/Honda/Parts-List.aspx?year=48&product=7&door=3&grade=3495&transmission=4&area=2§ion=3&assembly=26108 Part no.: 25450-P4V-013
@@kevinc9515 the filter you are speaking of is not changed during a normal service. This filter is used so a mechanic can see what has been captured in a transmission failure to help in their diagnosis. So I am told.
@@smokinwithskruggs Well, of course, when those transmissions fail, because they have the peculiarity of producing many burrs, and when that filter is plugged is when the failures begin to occur, good luck with ur "advice"
@@rafaelochoa3201 weird cause I've never seen one fail due to "burrs" Honda has been using that type of filter for years even on their standard automatics and I've never " changed" one. Just drain and fill. Oh and my "advice" is backed up from working on Hondas for 25 years.
Not sure how accurate this process is. When the engine is hot or cold the fluid will come out at different amounts through expansion. Is there a temperature requirement when undoing the check bolt??
This process is accurate when doing a CVT fluid change because the fluid was all at room temperature and hasn't had an opportunity to heat up. The only issue with accuracy would be if you were checking the fluid level of existing fluid that was hot. In that case, you would want to let the car sit for a few hours, and then follow the steps in the video.
Traveler X I believe that would be correct if all you were doing is checking the level. However, it would be a lot of work to go through if you are not having any troubles it should only need to be checked while you’re refilling after a fluid change. In other words, I would never go through the trouble of checking a level just for the sake of checking it. If your car is not leaking any fluid and it’s running correctly I would only go to the level check process during the fluid change.
I believe the principles in this video would be the same as far as the drain and fill procedure but, since this was a redesign year, the exact layout may be a bit different. Maybe someone who has done a CVT fluid change on a 2015 can comment.
@@PaulNaylor3 Paul, there are actually 2 filters in this transmission, the one where you pull the bottom pan where the drain plug is in and a filter in the trans cooler on the left front of the engine which is a pita, lol. Your video is the first one which shows the check bolt location which I couldn't find anywhere, I even called 2 dealer service departments, they told me to drain trans and fill with 3.5 qts and that's it! Crazy stuff, thanks soo much for your wonderfull video, and for what it's worth, dont change those filters, just do drain and refill.
I changed mine at 10k. Honda recommends 30k. The fluid did not look especially bad and the magnet on the drain bolt had an acceptable amount of material attached to it. I am sure Honda knows what they are doing with the 30k interval. I tend to change preventive maintenance fluids more frequently in hopes of keeping the vehicle running better in the long run. I am considering keeping up with the 10k interval.
Honda recommends following the Maintenance Minder. There is no prescribed interval of 30k miles. I can see changing the initial fill after break-in, but changing it at regular intervals of 10k is just plain wasteful.
I’ve got 30k miles on my crv I think its AWD. Checked the manual it says 25k if towing etc. It doesn’t have an interval, cvt’s typically get serviced @ the 100k mile range. I will be changing all fluids @60k way easier to remember. I’ve got 200k miles on my ford regular 6speed transmission, no transmission oil change yet. If the fluid is expensive I can see myself pushing it to 80k for the transmission. Has anyone done a brake job yet on their car?
MrACP1911 That would not be recommended. As you watch the video around the two minute mark you will see that the drain bolt is magnetic and collects metal shavings. If you were to install a Fumoto valve you would lose that ability to catch metal shavings.
I am confused as to why Honda wants the cvt transmission fluid changed so early. I took my 16 civic ext in for an oil change and they said it will be due a trans fluid change soon and I was shocked. I have never had to change trans fluid so early.
Same for me Honda HRV 2016 1.5 L (European gas model) 11000 miles and service reminder says cvt fluid change! I use the car gently no stop and go trafic,no sprt mode ? I am confused too.
Overall good video, but it is pointless to change your cvt fluids this early. In the owners manual it says when you should do it and it’s around the 40k range unless you tow often then they recommend earlier. There is nothing wrong “diy”, but you’re definitely not saving that much money. Dealership charges $99.00 for this service and it’s in there records. So if anything goes wrong with the transmission you can blame them.
you are very lucky, that your dealers actually do the job and do it right, unfortunately, mine screwed up more then one of my cars, no trusting them ever again. the saving here is a long term, you spent extra 50$ on parts, you wont spent 3000 down the road on changing transmission later.
I drained about 6 quarts out of my 2015 AWD CRV and filled it (2 quarts)till some dripped out. went through the gears slowly and then for my 2nd addition I couldn't add anymore, every thing that went in came right out the check bolt hole. anyone have any ideas? the car was level. not sure if I needed to have a longer funnel going deeper into the fill port...
@reubenhuddleston7261 this happened to me today. I drained out 6 qts but could only fill 3 qts. How did you resolve your issue? Did it cause any problems?
No, you do not need to change the transmission filter. It’s not the same as changing the oil. Many cars don’t have filters that can be accessed and even those that do may only recommend changing about every 90,000 miles.
I drained about 6 quarts out of my 2015 AWD CRV and filled it (2 quarts)till some dripped out. went through the gears slowly and then for my 2nd addition I couldn't add anymore, every thing that went in came right out the check bolt hole. anyone have any ideas? the car was level. not sure if I needed to have a longer funnel going deeper into the fill port...
It does have a transmission filter same part # as 2017 Honda Accord CVT transmission. The filter is inside the CVT warmer housing assembly right below the battery.Therefore, in order to service the transmission filter, the battery must be removed to make way for the removal of the CVT warmer. There are 3 O rings that also be replaced with the filter. www.hondapartsnow.com/parts-list/2017-honda-cr-v-5dr-ex-awd-indiana-ka-cvt/at-cvtf-warmer.html
Don Land In order to get an accurate fill level for the CVT fluid, it is important that the vehicle be level. So, yes, you would need 4 jackstands. The jackstands used in this video are heavily discounted right now on Amazon where you get 2 jackstands for less than nine dollars. That is a bargain. Torin Big Red Steel Jack Stands: 2 Ton Capacity, 1 Pair www.amazon.com/dp/B0028JQYPG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_KPCHBbQN0J262
your the only guy who got it right with 6 quarts for AWD, just did my 2017, let it drain for 1 hour and put 5 full quarts in and still nothing dripping from the check bolt, car was perfectly level.
Thank you for creating the video, it made the CVT fluid change very straightforward and easy. FWIW, our 2017 CRV AWD EXL took ~4.75 quarts until fluid came out of the check bolt hole.
fwd is 4 awd is almost 5
My 2018 crv awd 1.5l engine took nearly all 5 quart's until a little dribble came out of the inspection weap hole. I had it level on jack stands.
Or you drain it,..Measure how much came out and put exactly that back in saving time,.. 👍
I just paid $265 for a transmission service. I thought they were kidding.
I'll do it myself next time.
Great video... Clear in every way.
Your video was the 3rd one I watched on changing the CVT fluid but you are the only one to point out the check bolt. Thank you!
You’re welcome.
Excellent job of walking thru the procedure.Explaining something is a art.
Great video thank you just did same process 2wd 4quarts added and that’s what came out ran gears back and forth nothing came out added just a little from a spare quart nothing came out so I waited 10-20 minutes and started to drip so thankfull thanks again Aloha from Oahu….
You’re welcome!
Thank you Paul appreciate you sharing your experience with us I did my CVT rear end and an oil change today and found the advice quite valuable! Great job!
Jamie Gerrard Thank you
Very well done how to video. Just did my CRV AWD today. At first I was a little nervous that I didn’t have enough fluid with the 5 quarts I purchased since it took almost all 5 before I started the car and went through the gears. When I went back and added just a little bit it started draining through the check hole so it worked out well.
Glad it worked out for you.
Great vid, to the point. No antics.👍
Thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering how to check the correct level without a dipstick. Nicely done.
Greg Mccraw Thank you!
Great Job it is nice to know you can fill from the top and not siphon it back into much easier thanks for the vid!
Thanks very informative, most other videos tell you to see how much oil comes out and use that as your guide
You’re welcome
But if it was previously overfiilled or under filled then you would be doing the same.
So use the check bolt hole the 1st time you do it.
Over years I have seen new vehicles from the factory not filled correctly. This is rare but has happened.
Also never trust a new to you used vehicle.
Conclusion is to always use the check method on any automatic transmission or CVT, Continuously Variable Transmission the 1st time you change fluid.
So odd seeing a crv that's clean, including the interior! Former Honda employee here...and they were always so gross. Even crvs with 15,000 miles were utterly destroyed. People beat them bad up here. HR-Vs even more so, then believe it or not the FITs that always came in were used as farm vehicles. Not even kidding.
Thanks for the video, it’s done very well.
Thank you for the encouraging comment.
Thank You very much for this video!
Poopenshnapples You’re welcome
Good job explaining! 👍
I’ll be doing that exactly!
Thank you!
AS of today 1/1//2020, I have changed the fluid twice in mine, once at the first oil change, then again at 30K and I will do it again at 60K. From what I can gather talking to my two tech at the dealership next to my job, we share a parking lot and that is where I buy my parts from. FYI do yourself the favor and only buy the Honda OEM parts and fluids, its not going to break the bank and it saves you money in the long run, IE...$55 bucks in fluid or $2500+ for the trans job...
I do my changes myself and have always bought five quarts each time. Rumor I have heard is yes there is a filter that you can replace, its behind the trans heater. That by 90K your still getting metal particles and not just the dark sludge then your going to want to change it out, IF at that mark you pull the drain bolt and you get nothing on the drain bolt magnet or just the normal sludge then the trans is fine. I always do this service when it is warm or even somewhat hot, the time it takes to get it on the front ramps and get it level, lay out the tools, glove up, and get all my parts in order, it has cooled down enough to not be cold but not be hot and that seems to get more fluid out. I have always poured in four and a half quarts before I heard anything drain out the check bolt. The rear diff fluid change is the harder one top do then anything, just without a lift it makes it awkward to do it.
Honda brake fluid will destroy the bank
@@rafars2246 No reason to change the brake fluid out yet, I might do it once the vehicle reaches five calendar years of my ownership. Oil changes and the other two fluid changes are all I have been doing on the dot. This car also seems to have the air filter get dirty faster then any other vehicle I have owned. Three so far since march 2018, not just take out of air box and knock off the dust but legitimately dirt and debris stuck in the media of the filter, doing the job as intended but yes that little engine must be really sucking in some air flow.
@@TeamPaulie2520 true about the filter, and even more the cabin air filter! O was saying about the brake fluid because I use a bit over a gallon of fluid every time. That'll cost me a fortune with the honda brand.
Use amsoil 100% synthetic. Changed mind at 7500 miles. In a 2018 Honda CR-V. Amsoil in the engine. Getting 40 m/p/g. It only cost pennies more to go first class. Amsoil in the engine and transmission.
Just did mine 2018 CRV LX 2.4L non-turbo on 7-26-20, after you drain the trans oil out, put back the drain bolt and make sure the check bolt is still in and hand tight, I make a mistake while refilling the new oil with the check bolt out, the 1st quart I pour in, about 30% to 40 % came out of the check bolt, " MAKE SURE CHECK BOLT IS IN FOR THE INITIAL FILLING", if not half goes inside the trans and half leak out thru the check bolt, on my 2.4L engine, I will do 3.5Q with the check bolt in, and top off slowly with check bolt out.
Another tips, after you drain and put back the drain bolt, the rest can be done from the top thru the engine bay, while the car is sitting on all 4 wheels and level.
As of now, because of the initial loss of the new oil coming out from the check bolt(loss about 1/2 Q) , I had the whole 4 Q and still cannot top off the trans, car take 3.9 Q.
That's is what I'm going to do tomorrow, get another quart from Honda and top it off thru the engine bay!!!!!!
helpful viideo thanks very informative. Check bolt washer is same as engine oil drain plug washer?
Check bolt crush washer: 10 mm
Drain bolt crush washer: 18 mm
Thank you for this tutorial. You may want to update this to reflect that this is only applicable to 1.5L engines, not the 2.4L LX models. On those, the plug and fill port are directly under the water outlet that goes to the lower radiator hose.
I updated the description. Thank you.
@PaulNaylor3 I have the 2.4 Liter LX model. I drained about 6 qts of trans fluid but can only refill 3 qts without it spilling out the check bolt. Any idea why?
No, I’m not familiar with that engine. Does your transmission fluid have a dipstick where you can check the level? The 1.5L turbo does not but I don’t know if yours does.
@PaulNaylor3 no, unfortunately it does not have a dip stick
Okay. Definitely get some additional help to make sure your level is accurate. I’m sorry I can’t help.
Thanks I found what i needed.
Thanks for the informative video. I just wanted to clarify, when you cycle through all the gears, must the wheels be turning, right? I was about to purchase a ramp, LOL, so it would be faster when I do change the engine oil and filter in the future.
No, your foot is on the brake and the wheels are not turning while you cycle through the gears.
@@PaulNaylor3 oh really! So it's safe to use ramp on the front wheels and jack stands at the rear wheels. Thanks a lot for your prompt response.
@@alberta9311 Yes
Excellent instructional video!
Thank you.
Thank you for the video...very helpful. Subscribed. One question though, when you cranked the engine and went through the gears...do you have the check bolt in , or do I leave it out? Thanks 👍
Mike Barbier Hi Mike. At 4:08 I mentioned that the check bolt is hand tightened while I go through the gears. I’m glad the video was helpful and thank you for the encouraging comment.
Rather than loosen the check bolt and have to crawl under again to check a couple of times I just pour the fluid that I drained from the transmission into a 1 gallon milk container and then fill another rinsed 1 gallon milk container with the new transmission fluid to the same level (amount) as the old fluid and then pour the new in. easy peasy.
This works well as long as you know the right amount of fluid was in there to begin with. It would also work if you were the last one to change it. I think I would only be comfortable doing it that way after I had first done it with the check bolt to make sure I had the right amount of fluid to start with. It does make it a lot easier and once you know how much fluid it takes I agree with you and have plans to do it that way in the future now that I’ve done it this other way enough times to know what to expect.
Thanks for providing a great video !!! Can you please tell me what the torque value is for check bolt.
Cheers
15 lb.-ft
Thank you kindly.
You’re welcome
Excellent demonstration, clear and concise, but on your second go around did you always have the engine running or did you finish adding the fluid until it dripped out with the engine off?
Good question because some manufacturers recommend leaving the engine running. On this vehicle I turn the engine off to finish topping it off.
@@PaulNaylor3 Paul, so when you top it off, I take that to mean you can just add enough fluid at that point until it runs out and when it stops running, then install the check plug and the job is done. ?? Thanks again.
Yes. You would be adding fluid slowly so when it comes out you can put your check bolt back in. You don’t even have to wait for it to stop dripping. Thank you for your questions.
What is the size of check bolt washer thanks
Check bolt crush washer: 10 mm
Drain bolt crush washer: 18 mm
Sir how many quarts did u filled in your crv 17 awd? Coz i drained my Crv 17 Awd i got 4.7 liters? Do i have to fill same liters?
@@edmon179 Yes, 4.7 liters is equal to 5 quarts so that is the right amount.
Sir i dont need to open check the bolt just fill 4.7 liters ?
@@edmon179 Yes, that will work.
Bro when check valve start dripping should i wait to stop before installing the bolt?
When you are adding the fluid you should notice pretty quickly that it’s dripping. You could wait until that drip slows down to a very slow drip and then put the bolt in.
Thank you!!
You’re welcome!
Question, So I am doing mine now and was wondering if the level of the car makes a difference. I have it on ramps and wonder if I should raise the back to label out the car.
And by the way, Great video!!!!
Thanks!!!
P.S.Wondering because I put five qt in before I got a trickle.
I would recommend getting the vehicle level
@@PaulNaylor3 thanks for the reply
I have a 2017 CRV 2WD and I was surprised there was no way to check the transmission fluid level . I have 40,000 miles on the car now and I will be changing the fluid . I may let the honda dealer change the fluid for me . I have one question to ask . On all my other cars when I change the automatic fluid , I would install a FILTER . Does this cars transmission have a filter that needs to be replaced when installing fluid ? I am somewhat confused . Thanks for your video and you make it look pretty straight forward and not too difficult to do at home other than having 4 jack stands .
CVT Fluid: Honda HCF-2; capacity is 4.5 quarts (4.3 liters) for AWD models and 3.9 quarts (3.7 liters) for 2WD models. Paul you are saying use 6 quarts for AWD and 5 quarts FWD why? see fluid specs for Honda above
Yes, exactly correct!
I just put only 4.5 quarts in like the book says. Nothing drained out of the check plug. I just closed it back up. Im thinking, should I have continued to pour more fluid in until it started to drip out? Confused.
Use amsoil 100% synthetic
Thank you so much
You’re welcome
Hey Paul. Thanks you for your vids again. I have an 17 ex awd myself and these vids help me. 1 question I noticed that there is a “check” bolt and a drain bolt. What is the check bolt for? And what’s the torque value for the check and drains? Thanks again man. About to do this at 26k on the car.
Check bolt is the max fill level so, when the bolt is removed, and you fill with fluid, the excess fluid drains out. Check bolt is the upper one, drain bolt is the lower one.
Drain Bolt: 3/8” square, 18 mm crush washer
Drain Bolt Torque: 36 lb-ft (lower bolt)
Check Bolt: 12 mm crush washer
Check Bolt Torque: 15 lb-ft (higher bolt)
Awesome! thanks for the reply. That helps a bunch!
Hi Paul. Thanks for the very helpful maintenance videos. Wondering where you find the service details such as torque specs, etc?
you may found the torques in the Hanes books, check the rock auto site, they have great prices on books.
Nice video. Any recommendations on how to make sure the vehicle is perfectly leveled? I usually use laser level to project the light on the lift points. Would that work?
Michal P I just do the work on a level surface and have all of my jackstands adjusted the same.
Hey man thanks for your videos, I have a question: is it better to change the car oil when the car was parked (engine off) days ago or when the engine was recently turn off 👍
black_knight _ It is better to change fluids after the engine has been running.
Thanks for your videos, I changed mine last week, I have a Honda CR-V LX 2.4l 2017, after following the procedure , at the end when I removed the check bolts it did sprinkle out fluid but it was more than your vehicle (it was sprinkling for minutes) do you think I might have done the procedure incorrectly or depends on which vehicle I have
@@davidc2023 I was reading up on this and the UA-cam consensus is that the transmission fluid level is RIGHT when it drips out of the check bolt hole after performing the shift procedure. If fluid does not come out upon removing the check bolt, then it is understood that the fluid is actually low and needs filling (until it drips happily out of the check bolt hole).
If the check bolt is a 12mm bolt (which calls for a 12mm washer), then what's the wrench size required? Thanks so much. Great video!
Check Bolt: 12mm socket, 10 mm crush washer. I hope that helps!
@@PaulNaylor3 Thank you Paul!
You’re welcome
@@PaulNaylor3 Hey Paul, there may be a mistake in the description. It says "Check Bolt: 12 mm crush washer".
Thank you for letting me know. I just updated the description.
When should it be done? My crv has 90k miles
I would recommend changing the transmission fluid every 30,000 miles.
Thanks for the vid. This way only drains out half the fluid correct?
Total capacity is 8 quarts and when you change it you’re changing around 4 1/2 to 5 quarts. Keep in mind that Honda is well aware of this and they set the maintenance schedule at 30,000 mile intervals.
@@PaulNaylor3 Thank you for the expalanation.
@@atxjax1 You’re welcome
This is a correction to some word corrections. Training should be ( draning) one point should be (1 pint) my speech recognition program is not completely accurate as of yet. Should state in the morning. The transmission fluid was cold.
Going to sound dumb. However what's best area to jack up crv? Also best area to use stands on.
Rodriguez Antonio Hello Antonio. I have a video for jack & jack stand locations: ua-cam.com/video/BsP7V8WLkTA/v-deo.html
the check bolt is 15 lbs of torque and the drain bolt is 36 lbs?
Yes
@@PaulNaylor3 Thanks so much I have 42,000 miles on my 2017 hope I`m not too late
@@philiprea8340 Let us know how it goes after the fluid change.
Hi Paul, all I hear about these new CR-v's is the oil dilution issue. Did you have that issue?
Hi Mark. From what I understand a small percentage of 2017 models had the issue you are talking about. I sent two samples from early oil changes to a lab to be tested for this and both came back in good condition. Honda identified the Vin numbers and sent out letters to those affected and increased the warranty on all of the other models even the ones that were not affected. I am extremely happy with this car and have over 65,000 miles on it so far with no problems. It’s fun to drive, I get 30 miles per gallon with all wheel drive, it accelerates well, and it has plenty of room for people and cargo. It drives so smoothly over bumps and the road imperfections. I definitely recommend it. As to the negative comments you read about on the Internet, this is my take on that: I think only the people that have owned the vehicle with the oil dilution problems are the ones that have a right to complain about it. I understand why they are upset and I think everyone would be in their position. A small percentage of owners complaining on Internet forums and UA-cam comments can skew the facts because there are hundreds of thousands of models that have no problems. A lot of people don’t like consumer reports, but they surveyed a large amount of owners and determined that the problem was limited to a very small percentage. Also, if you change your oil every 5000 miles with full synthetic like I do, a small amount oil dilution is not likely to harm your engine. I hope that helps.
@@PaulNaylor3 Thank you for the taking the time to answer in such a detailed way.
@@55whiplash You’re welcome
Hey my friend .I have a 2016 crv AWD how much I have to put .because the dealer told it's took 4 Q its that correct thank you
Emad Pola I would like to know as well. I was told 3 quarts for all wheel. 2.7 quarts
Mine took 3.5 quarts for my 2016 awd cr-v. I couldn’t use the check bolt method because the fluid came out as I was adding the first quart. Just measured what comes out then add the same amount.
Great video, Thank you for this. The only thing i dont see mentioned that is in the service manual is draining it at operating temperature. Im also wondering if it needs to be filled at temperature as well. thanks!
Hi Brayden. Most fluids drain better when hot, so running the vehicle prior to performing the service may help. However, once you begin changing the fluid, you will be okay using room temperature fluid for your fill. Even if the car has been sitting and is not warm, a simple drain & fill will still work just fine.
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Question, So I am doing mine now and was wondering if the level of the car makes a difference. I have it on ramps and wonder if I should raise the back to lavel out the car.
And by the way, Great video!!!!
Thanks!!!
Yes, I would attempt to level the car.
thanks for the video! I have done exactly as adviced in the video on my CRV Touring (AWD), 2015. It took 5 quarts without any leakage from the check bolt! And it HAS a filter, which i changed too. So what is wrong? Should i remove back have of quart now ?
Serhii Mazurov Your 2015 is different than the 2017. But, you keep adding until fluid leaks out of the check bolt. In the video you see that mine also took more than what I thought it would. I hope that helps
Hi Paul, I’m @ 35,000 miles I see the car is requesting A 126 service not sure if it ever requested a cvt fluid change. I figure changing both the diff and trans fluid together is a good idea. I’ve got three ?’s Did your car request a cvt fluid change since owning the car or did you do it as an early precaution @10k? Where can I get the crush washers for the two jobs (do you have the item #, or link from northern lights)? Where do you generally source your fluids and filters from?
I changed mine at 10k but I believe the owner's manual recommends 30k. I would encourage you to change your rear differential fluid every 10k if you have AWD. I would recommend checking the price of the HCF-2 at your Honda dealer and compare that with Amazon. It was cheaper for me at the Honda dealer. As far as the crush washers, I purchased them from Amazon. Here is the link for the 18mm crush washer: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ET6UXLC/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Here is the link for the 12mm crush washer: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E0JKDPS/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
great help thanks !
Ivan Moreno You’re welcome!
does the car have to be level when draining and filling?
I changed my trans fluid the other week. I put in 4.5 queats like the book says. The check hole never leaked any fluid out, so I just closed it up. Should I have poured in more fluid until it started to drip out the check hole? Confused. Also parts guy at Honda dealership, says his techs only ask for 4 quarts when doing a drain refill.
I'm confused as well, cause I have the AWD and the tech only sold me 4 and said that is all I needed.
1. Drain the fluid
2. Tighten the drain plug
3. Fill the tranny through the plug with whatever amount you got
4. Start the car and cycle through each gear for 3 sec and turn it off
5. Crack the check bolt wait till the fluid almost stops dripping
6. Tighten the check bolt
7. Hope you find it helpful
Did you make sure your car was perfectly leveled? Typical garage floor is sloping down towards the door.
Very good video!! Thank you!
Thanks for the encouraging comment! I'm glad you found it helpful.
reading through some of the comments i am thinking some of the techs just drain it and refill and call it good without even checking the level.
Hey Paul, I am a bit confused still. When filling up the vehicle with CVT fluid, I have a FWD CRV 2015. Do we need 5 quarts? Your description states 5, I just bought 3 quarts.
I am also a bit hazy on after putting in the 3-4 qtz of CVT, you start the car with break and go through each stage. Do we add the remaining quartz of CVT after that?
I hope my questions make sense.
Thank you for the video BTW!
As far as capacity, you may want to have 5 on hand just in case. @3:23 mentions that the check bolt is out, meaning that, as you add fluid, once it is full, it will begin to spill out. Then, you hand tighten your check bolt, run through the gears, then remove the check bolt and fill again until it spills out. So, yes, you add the remaining fluid after that. You are adding fluid only until it spill out the check bolt. I hope this helps.
Does CVT have transmission dip stick? I didnt see one! How can you check your fluid?
Benito Jr No, there is no way to check fluid other than this process of using the check bolt.
Very interesting that the CRV has a check bolt, that is a very handy feature. Im now wondering if my '15 Civic has this check bolt to prevent overfill...
How many Kilometers before you change your transmission fluid for the first time?
It is recommended every 30,000 miles. I did mine the first time at 10,000 miles just because of the shavings that come off during the break-in period. So you could do it every 48,000 km unless you want to do your first change around 16,000 km.
is the rear diff dual pump fluid or something newer?
Honda Dual Pump Fluid 2
Nice video. What about changing the filter?
Kevin C there is not a changeable filter
Paul Naylor yes there is. www.bernardiparts.com/Honda/Parts-List.aspx?year=48&product=7&door=3&grade=3495&transmission=4&area=2§ion=3&assembly=26108
Part no.: 25450-P4V-013
@@kevinc9515 the filter you are speaking of is not changed during a normal service. This filter is used so a mechanic can see what has been captured in a transmission failure to help in their diagnosis. So I am told.
@@smokinwithskruggs Well, of course, when those transmissions fail, because they have the peculiarity of producing many burrs, and when that filter is plugged is when the failures begin to occur, good luck with ur "advice"
@@rafaelochoa3201 weird cause I've never seen one fail due to "burrs" Honda has been using that type of filter for years even on their standard automatics and I've never " changed" one. Just drain and fill. Oh and my "advice" is backed up from working on Hondas for 25 years.
Cool, how many miles u should change the trans oil
Every 30,000 miles
Thank u
Did you need to take off the underpinning to access the bolts??
Yes
How many bolts or screws is that!?
Is 2018 Honda hrv the same engine and transmission you think ?
The engine is different and the transmission may be as well.
Thank you
@@bestcleansnatureu.s.a5662 You’re welcome
So you use a total of 4 1/2 quarts of transmission fluid for awd?
If you have 5 quarts you should have enough
Is there a filter? The civic CVT has a filter. Thanks
No filter is mentioned for this generation of CR-V.
How often should you change it for a crv 2018?
Every 30,000 miles
How often do we need to change the CVT fluid on 2017 CR-V AWD? 30,000 miles or 60,000 miles?
Honda recommends 30,000 miles.
Thank you, Paul.
Did mine at 4500 to get out any break in stuff, then ill do about every 30,000. Dosen't take long and its not hard.
Not sure how accurate this process is. When the engine is hot or cold the fluid will come out at different amounts through expansion. Is there a temperature requirement when undoing the check bolt??
This process is accurate when doing a CVT fluid change because the fluid was all at room temperature and hasn't had an opportunity to heat up. The only issue with accuracy would be if you were checking the fluid level of existing fluid that was hot. In that case, you would want to let the car sit for a few hours, and then follow the steps in the video.
So to check the level, vehicle off, fluid at room temp?
Traveler X I believe that would be correct if all you were doing is checking the level. However, it would be a lot of work to go through if you are not having any troubles it should only need to be checked while you’re refilling after a fluid change. In other words, I would never go through the trouble of checking a level just for the sake of checking it. If your car is not leaking any fluid and it’s running correctly I would only go to the level check process during the fluid change.
Do you know if this is the same for a 2015 crv?
I believe the principles in this video would be the same as far as the drain and fill procedure but, since this was a redesign year, the exact layout may be a bit different. Maybe someone who has done a CVT fluid change on a 2015 can comment.
Would I need to change the transmission filter as well? I have a 17 CRV with AWD
No, there is not a serviceable transmission filter.
@@PaulNaylor3 Paul, there are actually 2 filters in this transmission, the one where you pull the bottom pan where the drain plug is in and a filter in the trans cooler on the left front of the engine which is a pita, lol. Your video is the first one which shows the check bolt location which I couldn't find anywhere, I even called 2 dealer service departments, they told me to drain trans and fill with 3.5 qts and that's it! Crazy stuff, thanks soo much for your wonderfull video, and for what it's worth, dont change those filters, just do drain and refill.
@@fasteddie9475 Thank you for the information and the encouragement.
Do I have to drain the transmission oil while the engine is hot?
Yes, drive the vehicle first to warm up the transmission fluid.
Hi - how many miles were on it...I have about 16k on it (FWD 2017 CRV)....how did the fluid look like? Is it worth drain and fill that soon?
I changed mine at 10k. Honda recommends 30k. The fluid did not look especially bad and the magnet on the drain bolt had an acceptable amount of material attached to it. I am sure Honda knows what they are doing with the 30k interval. I tend to change preventive maintenance fluids more frequently in hopes of keeping the vehicle running better in the long run. I am considering keeping up with the 10k interval.
thank you Paul for the response and the video!
You're welcome.
Honda recommends following the Maintenance Minder. There is no prescribed interval of 30k miles. I can see changing the initial fill after break-in, but changing it at regular intervals of 10k is just plain wasteful.
I’ve got 30k miles on my crv I think its AWD. Checked the manual it says 25k if towing etc. It doesn’t have an interval, cvt’s typically get serviced @ the 100k mile range. I will be changing all fluids @60k way easier to remember. I’ve got 200k miles on my ford regular 6speed transmission, no transmission oil change yet. If the fluid is expensive I can see myself pushing it to 80k for the transmission. Has anyone done a brake job yet on their car?
Why didn’t you measure how much fluid came out and then add that same amount back in.
Many people use the method you mentioned. The reason I do not is because it assumes the right amount of fluid was present.
Can you install a Fumoto valve on the CVT drain plug.
MrACP1911 That would not be recommended. As you watch the video around the two minute mark you will see that the drain bolt is magnetic and collects metal shavings. If you were to install a Fumoto valve you would lose that ability to catch metal shavings.
I am confused as to why Honda wants the cvt transmission fluid changed so early. I took my 16 civic ext in for an oil change and they said it will be due a trans fluid change soon and I was shocked. I have never had to change trans fluid so early.
Same for me Honda HRV 2016 1.5 L (European gas model) 11000 miles and service reminder says cvt fluid change! I use the car gently no stop and go trafic,no sprt mode ? I am confused too.
Follow the maintenance minder. I got to 51,500 miles before it was due for a change in my touring. It will be service number "3"
@@ssweetener Thank you! This is the first comment that I've read that is correct.
What if you wanna flush it how many should I use?
5 quarts.
How do i check if it needs transmission oil , i find no dipstick that tells me
Overall good video, but it is pointless to change your cvt fluids this early. In the owners manual it says when you should do it and it’s around the 40k range unless you tow often then they recommend earlier. There is nothing wrong “diy”, but you’re definitely not saving that much money. Dealership charges $99.00 for this service and it’s in there records. So if anything goes wrong with the transmission you can blame them.
you are very lucky, that your dealers actually do the job and do it right, unfortunately, mine screwed up more then one of my cars, no trusting them ever again. the saving here is a long term, you spent extra 50$ on parts, you wont spent 3000 down the road on changing transmission later.
I drained about 6 quarts out of my 2015 AWD CRV and filled it (2 quarts)till some dripped out. went through the gears slowly and then for my 2nd addition I couldn't add anymore, every thing that went in came right out the check bolt hole. anyone have any ideas? the car was level. not sure if I needed to have a longer funnel going deeper into the fill port...
@reubenhuddleston7261 this happened to me today. I drained out 6 qts but could only fill 3 qts. How did you resolve your issue? Did it cause any problems?
How often do we need to change transmission fluid on 2017 Honda CR-V ?
Andy W Every 30,000 miles.
Is this good for a 2016 CRV?
It would be similar but I cannot say if it’s the same.
Here is a link to my channel playlist with all of my 2017 CR-V videos: ua-cam.com/play/PL0pAqdmfaJaIsZr8xUNNvONksOC8Bc-ll.html
Don't you change the filter?...you will contaminate the new fluid with the old unless you change the filter.
No, you do not need to change the transmission filter. It’s not the same as changing the oil. Many cars don’t have filters that can be accessed and even those that do may only recommend changing about every 90,000 miles.
I drained about 6 quarts out of my 2015 AWD CRV and filled it (2 quarts)till some dripped out. went through the gears slowly and then for my 2nd addition I couldn't add anymore, every thing that went in came right out the check bolt hole. anyone have any ideas? the car was level. not sure if I needed to have a longer funnel going deeper into the fill port...
Reuben Huddleston how about waiting until the fan kicks in 3 times, then turn off the vehicle, then refill.
It doesn't have an oil filter?
No serviceable CVT filter. Just the magnetic drain bolt to catch metal shavings.
Paul Naylor thank you
Mariya Ilchuk You’re welcome
It does have a transmission filter same part # as 2017 Honda Accord CVT transmission. The filter is inside the CVT warmer housing assembly right below the battery.Therefore, in order to service the transmission filter, the battery must be removed to make way for the removal of the CVT warmer. There are 3 O rings that also be replaced with the filter.
www.hondapartsnow.com/parts-list/2017-honda-cr-v-5dr-ex-awd-indiana-ka-cvt/at-cvtf-warmer.html
“3 seconds in each gear”? I thought this is a CVT, they don’t have gears. Thanks for the video though.
PRNDSL You'd see it in the video if you bothered to watch it.
can you still do this if you don't have 4 jack stands?
Don Land In order to get an accurate fill level for the CVT fluid, it is important that the vehicle be level. So, yes, you would need 4 jackstands. The jackstands used in this video are heavily discounted right now on Amazon where you get 2 jackstands for less than nine dollars. That is a bargain. Torin Big Red Steel Jack Stands: 2 Ton Capacity, 1 Pair www.amazon.com/dp/B0028JQYPG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_KPCHBbQN0J262
@@PaulNaylor3 wow! I had to go for that. That is an amazing deal. Hopefully the AutoZone ones I have will be level with these.