Interested in purchasing any of the gear in this video? Below are links that I would make a credit from AT NO EXTRA CHARGE TO YOU: ►TR-8S: bit.ly/3itO8G3 ►Fairfield Circuitry Long Life: bit.ly/3AC4pCm ►Recovery Effects Dirty Murals: bit.ly/3yuDWDM
I bought it 1 week ago. I'm amazed at everything you can do with it... I was a little lost at first but frankly it's really well made. This is my first machine and I'm really having fun with it! thanks for the video
1. Shortcut for adjusting velocities: hold the step and turn the Accent knob. When not holding a step, the Accent knob will also scale any velocities you've programmed in. 2. For tuning pitched samples, setting the Ctrl knob to Coarse and sequencing that lets you work in semitones, much easier than sequencing the Tuning knob. Though you cannot use the Ctrl knob for anything else on that track though, one of the biggest flaws of the TR-8S unfortunately 3. Last tip :) there is a sensitivity setting for the pad, I definitely prefer the lightest option 👍
" Somewhere over the rainbow " .. comes to mind when i glance at this colorful set up .. add to that the makings of " the sound of music " ... and it is another win .. always thorough .. easy flow .. insightful content in your comprehensive videos .. cheers to the process ... and thanks !
Tr8s is an absolute monster ...teamed up with the 707 it’s a killer set up ...enjoying your content from all the way over in Glasgow Scotland mate 👌keep it coming ...respect
Still tempted to trade my TR-6s for a TR-8s. But at this stage a rarely use the extra percussion sounds like toms and cymbal. Thanks for your first impressions, love how hands on this machine is.
Learnt more in first few minutes from your video than any other video uploaded…thank you, simplified some complex timing issues and effects I am having,thank you!! Great fun with the tr-8s, bought a td-3 and td-3mo… yes yes yes….👍❤️🇮🇪
@@LiamKillen Fairfield circuitry have really done well to offer unique sounds. As a guitarist who bought groove boxes and drum machines, I really like your idea. I have done a weird thing where I use stereo pedals and left is my guitar and right is a volca drum for example. Not the best idea but when I do a quick jam, it really is easy. If you have the volca drum, I'd would love to see your take on making beats. And also I'd like to buy Rooms or empress reverb if you have a comparison video for that would be the best.
I have and love the tr6s... keep debating if the tr8s is worthwhile (for me). Hmmm. I own a ton of grooveboxes. I think with the mc 707 a lot of ppl don’t get over the learning hump. It has become my go-to (over my mpc). Once you learn how to change the chords in chord mode it unleashes the composition possibilities... paired with the synth patches.., I find a lot of inspiration. Note, i hate the pad sensitivity on the mc 707... so I change it to fixed and then modify per step. Note, the mc 707 drums (and tones) are not locked to the grid and can be nudged.
@@LiamKillen there are a lot of good demo videos (BoBeats, Red Means Recording, etc.), but tutorial wise the Roland Cloud Academy ones were best for me. Much like my Elektrons... you sort of need to use it full time for a bit to get it down, lol.
@@dracul74 I'd love a 707 in concept (having come from mc's back in the day), but that abm engine just doesn't do it for me. Though, it's no worse than the circuit sound engine, or most other groove boxes I know. But you have to admit that the acb drums on the TR's are next level. I've got a ton of samplers and analog machines (including Rytm), but for THOSE old Roland sounds, the acb on the TR's is a perfect compromise over getting something like the new Behringers.
@@alexwestconsulting agreed. About 1/2 the time I use the mc 707 drums as a scratch track... to have something to arrange against and then use other sounds in the final track. Being able to stream 8 tracks over usb, 1000s of really good synth and pad tones, ability to move notes off the grid, probability logic, ability to assign chords within a scale to pads and Ableton like clip abilities is where the mc 707 shines for me anyway. Don’t get me wrong... I hate the small screen and other stuff about it too and I still use other groove boxes. I’m sure someday I’ll have a new fav, lol. I used a Mpc for a few years, but never quite got the sounds from my head with it.
1000% agreed on ACB. I had the MC-707 for a second and I just didn’t like the sound of it - at all! Meanwhile the JU-06A is my favorite piece of gear. It’s such a big difference
I picked up the TR-6s this week for cheap after having passed on a good deal on the older TR-8. The acb drums are great, very dynamic. Too bad the old TR-8 doesn't have the whole set without shelling out extra cash because I don't really need yet another sample importer like the TR-8s at that cost. If only the TR-6s had the sidechain. Oh well, I've got an mx-1, circuit tracks, and some analog compressors for that. Still, can't understate how useful sidechain units are. It's amazing how tactile and fun the sliders are, really needs to be experienced to get it.
@@LiamKillen Right, like the TR-8(s) has that external audio in that can process it's own tracks that are directed out of an auxiliary out (not the best solution, but a solution nonetheless, never mind that it can process other external audio) and the T-8 can at least sidechain it's own internal tracks, so really an annoyance that TR-6s can't at least do it's internal sounds with a straight-up, non-hacky, non-workaround method.
i use it very similar, i like some of the FM with the classic x0x tones. i put my TR8s and MC707 into my octatrack, great combo! But i do use all the instruments how they named them.
Have u tried it with The TR-EDITOR ? it’s a must for menu diving & live jams ++ a much needed overview on whAtever cpu screen Personally the way I use my TR8S is literally always kind of improvisation jams that keeps surprising myself with fucked up rhythms and polyrhythms and because over the years I’ve never Interested into being plugged to a DAW And sit down and try to build a construct a song over hours, days or weeks depending on how complicated you like your beats to be. But every single time I try to focus and tell myself the right let’s build something that’s gonna lead to somewhere I don’t know yet… My internal clock triggers itself after 3-4 minutes and I always kinda end up somewhere else. I just subbed to your channel because I like your delivery and then I’d like you’re a brutal opinion if you have the time or whatever on my first and only time I dared press record on the camera for a random WTF techno sess bout’ 2 after getting the drum machine being my first and only ..so far .. Until I reach an acceptable standard which mine are quite high so I’m not gonna put some BS out just for the sake of just whatever. On my “channel” lol (I have 1or2vids) I’d really appreciate your opinion… And what do you think of my time signatures switch where I go from 100 ÷ 3 to 130÷4 Cheers!
Need some help….thanks to a very understanding wife and Santa- we have a TR8s! However have an issue with sound from channels- certain channels- BD, SD etc are really quiet- barely hear them. Only way to change is going into the Shift/ Inst mode and go to PAN and adjust up- can hear then, but as soon as you change pattern- no sound again……. I am bewildered!!
1:40 a blind fold test , lol , cool ... i do feedback loops , it would be awesome if you tested all your gear using the audio ins - in interesting ways ... ( headphones out - fx pedal - audio in )
I am SOOOO here for this. I love this machine with all its quirks,and limitations. It wouldn't be a Roland product with out some frustrating design choices! And I totally agree on keeping it for drums... I'm going for an mC 101 a synth module to complement my moogs as well... get the ear candy from the 101, bass and synths from Moog, ans the TR8s is the beast with the beat.
Is it me or does all of these songs on the TR-8S sound like flat midi files? I don't get the hype. I'd rather work with a Maschine DAW at that price. If you want to go big DAWLESS go AKAI or Elektron and add something like a M6 or Mikrofreak to the mix with it.
Why are you hitting the buttons so hard!! Like a typewriter.. You also bang down the levers like your intention is to rip them out. Why the same beat all the way through. I was thinking if had more than one pattern .
Interested in purchasing any of the gear in this video? Below are links that I would make a credit from AT NO EXTRA CHARGE TO YOU:
►TR-8S: bit.ly/3itO8G3
►Fairfield Circuitry Long Life: bit.ly/3AC4pCm
►Recovery Effects Dirty Murals: bit.ly/3yuDWDM
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Just bought a tr-8s so thanks for the insight before it arrives tomorrow. looking forward to finally getting new music out in 2024 with this tool
Hell yes - glad to hear that it's fitting with you.
I bought it 1 week ago. I'm amazed at everything you can do with it... I was a little lost at first but frankly it's really well made. This is my first machine and I'm really having fun with it!
thanks for the video
It's my pleasure! Glad that you're into it
Ordered one on this video alone - arriving tomorrow -thanks and subscribed !!
Awesome- and thank you!
Yes! More TR-8s videos please 🙏🏽👍🏽🇬🇧
There will be more!
1. Shortcut for adjusting velocities: hold the step and turn the Accent knob. When not holding a step, the Accent knob will also scale any velocities you've programmed in.
2. For tuning pitched samples, setting the Ctrl knob to Coarse and sequencing that lets you work in semitones, much easier than sequencing the Tuning knob. Though you cannot use the Ctrl knob for anything else on that track though, one of the biggest flaws of the TR-8S unfortunately
3. Last tip :) there is a sensitivity setting for the pad, I definitely prefer the lightest option 👍
I’ll try and remember this! Thank you!
Been thinking of buying a TR-8S for a while now. You've just convinced me. Great video - easy to follow even for a noob like me!
Awesome!
The ACB technology sounds great. Really hope they add probability in a future update.
The probability is a GREAT suggestion - would love that.
Oohhh yeah like Elektron- I find Roland is on fire these days so hopefully they will.
I second this!
Seriously, I had to build a Euclidean sequencer to drive mine. It works amazingly though
@@LiamKillen strangely the MC 101 and 707 have it for drum tracks and so it seems a bit odd that it’s missing from their dedicated drum machines.
" Somewhere over the rainbow " .. comes to mind when i glance at this colorful set up .. add to that the makings of " the sound of music " ... and it is another win .. always thorough .. easy flow .. insightful content in your comprehensive videos .. cheers to the process ... and thanks !
Cheers to you for watching!
If you're still wondering, the MG888 is a reference to the Gemini R-888 Beat Box, whose designers initals were MG.
Thx for letting me know! 😊
The frequency sweep on the pedal in the little demo at the start sounded 👌
Fairfield Corcuitry is dooope!
The Clyde Stubblefield moment made me jump. Thought you were gonna be bummed by Bill Cosby.
Lolololol
Tr8s is an absolute monster ...teamed up with the 707 it’s a killer set up ...enjoying your content from all the way over in Glasgow Scotland mate 👌keep it coming ...respect
Going full circle- my grandparents are from Glasgow. Thanks for watching! 🍻
@@LiamKillen 😁👌👌
Still tempted to trade my TR-6s for a TR-8s. But at this stage a rarely use the extra percussion sounds like toms and cymbal. Thanks for your first impressions, love how hands on this machine is.
Tr-6S is great! If you’re looking for a lot more flexibility + hands on performance I’d go with tr-8s
The hands on quality of the TR8s is amazing btw! Very inspiring.
I came for the drums but stayed for the speed running button clacking ;)
Hahaha gotta be a speedster sometimes
Ordered a used one and will come back to this video to learn/emulate. Can’t wait to pair it with the 707, T8, J6 and E4. Strong work sir!
You’re in for some fun
Dig that snare part! Nice work!
Funky Clyde stubblefield styles
@@LiamKillen the legend. Sex machine is a favorite drum line. Great example of the ghost notes. Thanks again for the great content.
Learnt more in first few minutes from your video than any other video uploaded…thank you, simplified some complex timing issues and effects I am having,thank you!! Great fun with the tr-8s, bought a td-3 and td-3mo… yes yes yes….👍❤️🇮🇪
Love to hear it! 🍻
Awesome pedal you used with it, ça envoie du bois.
I’m thinking of doing an FX pedals made in Canada video. 3 of my fav FX pedal companies are within a 1 hour drive lol
@@LiamKillen Fairfield circuitry have really done well to offer unique sounds. As a guitarist who bought groove boxes and drum machines, I really like your idea. I have done a weird thing where I use stereo pedals and left is my guitar and right is a volca drum for example. Not the best idea but when I do a quick jam, it really is easy. If you have the volca drum, I'd would love to see your take on making beats. And also I'd like to buy Rooms or empress reverb if you have a comparison video for that would be the best.
I have and love the tr6s... keep debating if the tr8s is worthwhile (for me). Hmmm. I own a ton of grooveboxes. I think with the mc 707 a lot of ppl don’t get over the learning hump. It has become my go-to (over my mpc). Once you learn how to change the chords in chord mode it unleashes the composition possibilities... paired with the synth patches.., I find a lot of inspiration. Note, i hate the pad sensitivity on the mc 707... so I change it to fixed and then modify per step. Note, the mc 707 drums (and tones) are not locked to the grid and can be nudged.
Yeah TBH I haven’t gotten past the MC 707 yet either. I’ve used it a bit but it hasn’t stuck yet.
@@LiamKillen there are a lot of good demo videos (BoBeats, Red Means Recording, etc.), but tutorial wise the Roland Cloud Academy ones were best for me. Much like my Elektrons... you sort of need to use it full time for a bit to get it down, lol.
@@dracul74 I'd love a 707 in concept (having come from mc's back in the day), but that abm engine just doesn't do it for me. Though, it's no worse than the circuit sound engine, or most other groove boxes I know. But you have to admit that the acb drums on the TR's are next level. I've got a ton of samplers and analog machines (including Rytm), but for THOSE old Roland sounds, the acb on the TR's is a perfect compromise over getting something like the new Behringers.
@@alexwestconsulting agreed. About 1/2 the time I use the mc 707 drums as a scratch track... to have something to arrange against and then use other sounds in the final track. Being able to stream 8 tracks over usb, 1000s of really good synth and pad tones, ability to move notes off the grid, probability logic, ability to assign chords within a scale to pads and Ableton like clip abilities is where the mc 707 shines for me anyway. Don’t get me wrong... I hate the small screen and other stuff about it too and I still use other groove boxes. I’m sure someday I’ll have a new fav, lol. I used a Mpc for a few years, but never quite got the sounds from my head with it.
1000% agreed on ACB. I had the MC-707 for a second and I just didn’t like the sound of it - at all! Meanwhile the JU-06A is my favorite piece of gear. It’s such a big difference
Yeah it does make a difference for sure- there’s something kinda clunky about it in my experience
It's the only TR I needed to own.
Yeah it’s the most beast TR at the moment
Are you planning to do a comparison video between this and the tr-6s?
It’s in the cards for sure (along with the t-8)
this is so helpful. thank *YOU* Liam. 🙏
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I picked up the TR-6s this week for cheap after having passed on a good deal on the older TR-8. The acb drums are great, very dynamic. Too bad the old TR-8 doesn't have the whole set without shelling out extra cash because I don't really need yet another sample importer like the TR-8s at that cost. If only the TR-6s had the sidechain. Oh well, I've got an mx-1, circuit tracks, and some analog compressors for that. Still, can't understate how useful sidechain units are. It's amazing how tactile and fun the sliders are, really needs to be experienced to get it.
I hope they update and end up adding side chain like with the t-8 on other units!
@@LiamKillen Right, like the TR-8(s) has that external audio in that can process it's own tracks that are directed out of an auxiliary out (not the best solution, but a solution nonetheless, never mind that it can process other external audio) and the T-8 can at least sidechain it's own internal tracks, so really an annoyance that TR-6s can't at least do it's internal sounds with a straight-up, non-hacky, non-workaround method.
Selling mine. Never got into it. I like my MC707 for drums. Plus I can use more than one kit at a time.
So funny I’m like the complete opposite
Damn I just love the layout of this whole thing. I’m just afraid if I buy it they’ll come out with a new version the next day 😅
That's always a thing in this world haha but either way, this one's dope
Is the Long Life pedal your favorite pedal for the TR8S? Do you have a suggestion of a less expensive version of the same thing? :)
I do not actually. For the quality it's actually pretty well priced. I would suggest taking a look at Reverb to find one second hand :-)
i use it very similar, i like some of the FM with the classic x0x tones. i put my TR8s and MC707 into my octatrack, great combo! But i do use all the instruments how they named them.
i need to use the pad more too, instead of just programming the beat.
Yeah for me I like all drums to be in a specific order- engrained into me lol
Yeah what an awesome feature!!
Have u tried it with The TR-EDITOR ? it’s a must for menu diving & live jams ++ a much needed overview on whAtever cpu screen
Personally the way I use my TR8S is literally always kind of improvisation jams that keeps surprising myself with fucked up rhythms and polyrhythms and because over the years I’ve never Interested into being plugged to a DAW And sit down and try to build a construct a song over hours, days or weeks depending on how complicated you like your beats to be. But every single time I try to focus and tell myself the right let’s build something that’s gonna lead to somewhere I don’t know yet… My internal clock triggers itself after 3-4 minutes and I always kinda end up somewhere else.
I just subbed to your channel because I like your delivery and then I’d like you’re a brutal opinion if you have the time or whatever on my first and only time I dared press record on the camera for a random WTF techno sess bout’ 2 after getting the drum machine being my first and only ..so far .. Until I reach an acceptable standard which mine are quite high so I’m not gonna put some BS out just for the sake of just whatever.
On my “channel” lol (I have 1or2vids)
I’d really appreciate your opinion… And what do you think of my time signatures switch where I go from 100 ÷ 3 to 130÷4
Cheers!
I don’t know if it’s gonna work the link out that’s following :: 6min clip
ua-cam.com/video/Gs4WKJ5iO4k/v-deo.html
I haven’t yet but I’ll def get around to it!
So good
Hey thanks! 😊
Check out what _Loopop_ did with a cowbell sound, smashing it up and using it create a melody.
(Oh and Liam.... more Cowbell..)
Always more COWBELL!!!
Why? I've been debating on getting one for a few weeks now and coincidentally you drop a video...great content!
Heheee 😏 it’s a great machine for sure
@@LiamKillen are you planning on pairing it with your MPC? That was my initial thought.
The "Fairfield Circuitry Long Life Parametric EQ" is a mono effect pedal, right? Is the video in mono?
yeah I think all their pedals are mono.
very helpful, thank you!
Glad to help! Cheers
Wish I had listened to a m8 and bought the tr8s instead of the RD9.
What is the make of that little speaker you are using please?
Cheers
Teenage Engineering OB-4. Here’s a video on what it can do: ua-cam.com/video/VQliIJoM8zE/v-deo.html
@@LiamKillen been looking for it on the net today, thanks for the link as I never ever would have found it...boom.
Tnx for that, do you think the new SH 4 D , would go well with the tr8s ?
I think it would!
It's a powerful machine. Bit too fiddly for my taste though I'm thinking of selling mine and picking up a Behringer RD8
Interesting-
Need some help….thanks to a very understanding wife and Santa- we have a TR8s!
However have an issue with sound from channels- certain channels- BD, SD etc are really quiet- barely hear them. Only way to change is going into the Shift/ Inst mode and go to PAN and adjust up- can hear then, but as soon as you change pattern- no sound again…….
I am bewildered!!
You can also change the gain of each track in that same menu (shift + instrument)
What about it going quiet again when you change pattern?
Surely I shouldn’t have to adjust every time!
Thanks
11:17 the 707 has micro timing, and most times you just want it not to. ; - )
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Awesome!
Cheers
Finally !!
Tnx !!!!!
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1:40 a blind fold test , lol , cool ... i do feedback loops , it would be awesome if you tested all your gear using the audio ins - in interesting ways ... ( headphones out - fx pedal - audio in )
my 1st real gear was the korg triton in like 2001 .... Long road ... now Feedback Loops are the main focus
Drone style
You must be real good at it then
Gus!? Is here any possibility to here in a headphone before i add anything into the mix? Like in a dj mix
If I understand correctly- yes you can audition something before actually recording it in
@@LiamKillen if i play live for example and before i want to add anything to main output can i previously hear it in headphones?
Just got the 6s along with the 8s. It’s hard to decide which one to keep
Keep ‘em both!
I am SOOOO here for this.
I love this machine with all its quirks,and limitations. It wouldn't be a Roland product with out some frustrating design choices!
And I totally agree on keeping it for drums... I'm going for an mC 101 a synth module to complement my moogs as well... get the ear candy from the 101, bass and synths from Moog, ans the TR8s is the beast with the beat.
this is the right way to approach hardware ... just take it for its quirks, use them and have fun. Software does it all ... overwhelming ... no fun.
Hooray to Roland!!
BEATSS
All dayyyyy
Hi... do you use a reamp box for those guitar pedals? I m asking because they don t expect line levels, but rather instrument levels. Thanks
I don’t!
@@LiamKillen hummmm.....ok man, thank you.
So over the 6s and 8s for more tracks or witch ya liking more now ya tried both
They’re different - but the 8s is the most advanced- 6S is better for smaller desk space set ups
Funkey
The funk shall prevail
nice beat
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What’s happened to the 707? You haven’t used it in a while.
it be gone - Roland actually lent it to me but I never used it so I sent it back.
@@LiamKillen kinda got that impression. I got rid of mine a few years back it hasn’t the “fun factor” of the TR-8s!
Anyone know if the new Roland Sp404 has micro nudge capability?
It does in TR-rec mode
@@LiamKillen cheers 🙏🏾👍🏾
Is the fairfield pedal stereo?
Mono 😢
@@LiamKillen damn! Too bad they dont make one in stereo!!!
I'm pretty sure the 707 has micro nudge
Oh cool!
Is it me or does all of these songs on the TR-8S sound like flat midi files? I don't get the hype. I'd rather work with a Maschine DAW at that price. If you want to go big DAWLESS go AKAI or Elektron and add something like a M6 or Mikrofreak to the mix with it.
I find the classic Roland drum sounds are super vibrant - the stock melodic sounds are meh IMO - gotta get your own samples on there
big lol
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Dude, I think you're videos are great BUT.....3 MINUTES before the content subject starts???? Hopefully, you're open to feedback.
I guess you missed it- I always suggest to use chapters in the description if you want to jump to something specific
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Why are you hitting the buttons so hard!!
Like a typewriter..
You also bang down the levers like your intention is to rip them out.
Why the same beat all the way through.
I was thinking if had more than one pattern .
Your partner must find you so pleasant
Won't someone think of the buttons!