Alcatraz Deletion Plus Settlement & Obs Buffs From Inno!
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2024
- Today I discuss the taboo idea of actually deleting my Traz and why I think this idea is gaining traction in a current game model that has changed dramatically during just the last year.
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Much respect for telling the story of why you sounded sad. Your community loves you! Don’t forgot to talk to the people you love, they can help you the most in these times
Rest in power to your friend. Hopefully he's onto new adventures. Im sorry for all his loved ones who's left with the loss =/ Condolenses. Thanks for the vids! Still top 1% Narrator voice online ^^
Sorry to hear about your friend, your content is always good, and I hope you're in a better place now (I realise I'm watching this out of turn after yesterday's video). I'm sure you're probably aware now, but the Obs buff was the replacement for where it used to give Guild Support Pool for GVG, so they swapped the stat for blue army boosts instead after they ended GVG.
Thanks for commenting. That's a good point about it being a transition. Arguably Inno could have just dropped that GvG metric, but it makes sense they applied it to GbG. It will be interesting to see if Inno starts creating different/better GBs to maintain the Forge Point demand, or buff old ones, or if it will just continue to be tiny powerful event buildings by the dozens per year.
Keep in mind a L100 Obs produces 188 OF EACH CURRENT GOOD for a total of 940 guild goods per day. A L2 tower only produces 400 total guild goods. So, the Obs still produces more than twice as much.
Mughal Temple: 107 FP, 130 FP w/forgotten temple; 260 FP w/BG !!!
Great point, thanks for commenting!
They need to rework the great buildings because at best they are MID buildings now
or nerf event buildings
@@lucasloustalet6133and backtrack? Something does need to change because this is simply unsustainable and will inevitably destroy the game because great buildings are 99% of the reason why people want more fp in the first place.
Agreed. I think what has happened is a clearly a pay/play money model shift versus a high FP freemium mindset from the old days.
In my current age, I fight with heavies and rogues. I have tons of rogues and stored ny rogue den awhile back. So my Traz cranks out 65 heavies a day. Between my 2 winter pyramids and 17 donkey enclosures, I get an average of 8 heavies a day. At high attrition in GBG, I need heavies as everything else dies.
Also, the space requirement for 17 donkey enclosures and 2 pyramids is 117 squares, or 167% of Traz's footprint but only gives me 12% of what Traz gives me in heavies. So for me, Traz is not going away anytime soon.
Def makes sense in your case to keep it around. Thanks for watching.
@@foeadvance7024 Keep the videos coming. As the game constantly changes, we may need to alter the way we play. Keep thinking outside the box.
Deleted my Traz, no hesitation. I'm a cash player and so many special buildings produce units now. I have 81k Rogues and 2k Titan troops. Recent buffs to Settlements buildings and recent special event building make Traz worthless.
Yep, haven't regretted deleting my traz and related unit building.
I'm in the same place you are. I have 16K+ Perm Drones and 10K+ rogues. My TRAZ gives 89 permafrost drones daily. I'm considering removing my TRAZ, Perma Barracks, CC, Kraken, CDM, OBS and CoA. Special Event and Settlement buildings more than replace attack/defense for both armies.
So similar, I'm back at posting for now. I killed traz and perma of course (happy). CC is next. Kraken I keep cause I'm a Cthulhu guy. Deleted CdM and CoA. Keeping obs due to new buffs and critical guild support for being 1-3 in our world. We have to keep 1M+ on hand of every good from each era. Never looked back on those deletes. LMK how it goes for you.
hey Bonfry, Turk formerly a guildmate on L, currently top 10 on D2.. we have top 10 players here deleting their trazs. I deleted mine towards the end of Gvg to relevel it (deleted at 133, releveled into the 80s). I only used the traz building for FE troops for the last 6 months and my buildings produce hundreds of excess troops per day w/o the traz. I'm not up to deleting it forever, largely because I can't come to terms with Inno disposing of the GB concept. I am focusing on leveling my arc, AO, and Titan buildings, but the power creep of the special buildings is irrationally steep compared to gbs... so I think, unless inno changes tracks, we are going to see all the static results gbs going away, just the arc and AO seem to keep scaling..
Btw, if you decide to reroll a new world, love to see you on Dilmun :) I miss the L world crew
Great to hear from you! Appreciate your thoughts. Old timers like us remember when the Trinity really mattered. I can't see that now (other than Arc of course). I can put down 4 Cider Mills and 5 Shroom Thrones in the same space as my CDM and have equal + stats of a level 80+ GB. And these event buildings didn't really cost me FP like a GB would. But they cost me real money. That is the new model. The Freemium + patience aspect of this game is long gone. Thx for mentioning D world. Haven't been there as of yet.
@@foeadvance7024 I watch all your vids, keeps me connected. My L world city was never cutting edge, but did top out in 4th place..I looked at it at the end of GvG and realized how much different the two cities are.. it's like a time machine to before the power curve when completely vertical...
Wow lvl 100 FI! Mad levels on that. About half a millions fights too! Your still ranked 33! @@saltyyankee5149
When does the Cider Garden start giving the chance at Rogues? I’m currently in AF and the only “other” building that I get Rogues from, at least to my knowledge, is the Raccoon Hideout. Or am I wrong on others building give the possibility of producing Rogues? Thanks!
My Ciders are what give rogues or fat units but in SAT. It morphs in SAT. Dunno why. Thanks for your comment!
cider gardens give 50% of 5 current age troops and 50% chance of 1 next era troop, In SAT, no next age troops so the rogue is substituted
I deleted my Traz a while ago, I still get way more troops per day from other buildings that give fps goods etc. Bath house now gives 20 per day alone. I do around 4k battles each GBG and easily finish GE5 every time.
but those buildings give random troops. In many eras only 1 type of unit is worth doing anything with. I have one world without a Traz for aesthetic reasons, and I only get around a 100 troops from other buildings and they are totally random.
@@Xia-hu True I was ok with loosing my Traz and the troop building specific for 1 troop. Since then all my troop stores have increased even with pvp gbg and ge fights I do swap out injured troops for fresh ones after each battle., it hasn't become a problem for me with the way I play the game. That's what I like about it trying different things .
Sounds like you’re tracking very close to my gameplay strategy. I don’t think deleting the traz is for everyone.
@@foeadvance7024 That's true it all depends on how you play no one else in my guild have deleted it yet. even the new emissaries give troops 52 if I put all four in the town hall.
Making troops from special buildings is fine. But do you have enough 1-up kits to bring those buildings up to the new age to satisfy your troop needs without the Traz?
In my case yes. It’s important to balance those in ones inventory for sure. I’m glad inno has created more special buildings that produce one up and Reno frags.
I have a DC 75 and I feel it's helping me know but I am going to 100 before I head to say that. Thank you for the encouragement 19:40
I think that makes sense. I’m swimming in blue stats now from the ongoing generation of cider Gardens. I think I’m just going to delete mine after my guild Farms enough blueprints.
400 guild goods, even a lvl 60 obs (3x3) is 540 goods. However, you cant BG x2 the obs =/ you can with the tower.
Ever since i got a lot of the grilling grove event buildings along with my army of cider gardens and majestic winter pyramids, it might be time to consider deleting my traz
Indeed, in my case, it’s the cider gardens that continue to pop out every day that are really giving me this flexibility.
@@foeadvance7024 cider garden gang 🤣
where are you getting your rogues from??
I get mine via ToR GBG and HC ,
a ToR at 30 is a great troop producer all round btw
From my Cider Gardens. Each one produces 3x Rogutes and 3x Fast units per day. I also make enough fragments per day to produce 1.5 cider gardens daily...so that number continues to grow.
cider gardens don't produce rogues. They produce own era and next era units. I just checked. The only building that produces rogues is the racoon hideout which was a building you could only get during the wildlife event and nothing produces it.@@foeadvance7024
@@foeadvance7024 my cider gardens dont produce rogues, it must be random when you change age, maybe?
I have big a cider garden plot also.
Space is the only limit. No negs on population or roads. Thanks for your comment.
I have 26 jj pumpkins and still have over 150,000 population and over 350,000 happiness. I cell the ciders. Still have the traz.
Sounds like a good fit for you. In my case I plan to have into the hundreds of ciders (maybe just for the hell of it). I can't do that with pumpkins.
So "Donkey Enclosures" only produce 1 random unit. Normally the "Cider Garden" produces 5 light units or 1 light unit from the next age. The "Majestic Winter Wonderland Pyramid" produces 12 random units. Your rogues are being produced by Cider Garden because you are at the highest age (now produce 3 Light units or 3 Rogues). What other special buildings are producing units in your city?
Not really any to speak of. But since I’m making 1.5 Cider Gardens per day, I’m generating plenty of units for my needs (as per the numbers I showed in the video).
Also how exactly are you fighting with light units in titan?
I don’t fight with light units at all in Titan. What I was mentioning in the video is that I get enough fast units for what I need.
@@foeadvance7024 Got it, I was confused because the ciders produce absolutely useless light units :D
I don't see how I can sell the traz though. I'm doing gliders up to 80 with no losses, then I switch between gliders and 2 harpoons+rogues up to 130. I think the gliders are slightly better than titan flying...
So I fight with 8X permafrost drones for everything. But our battle lineups may not apples tp apples depending on fight stats.
@@leighslife3550 I'm at 5k/4k att/def and I tried drones, I have to reload after every attack even with no attrition lol
With flying I can do at least 2-3 attacks without losses
@@leighslife3550 I'm at 5k/4k att def, sajm flying seems to be doing a bit better than titan flying up to a point. After 110 atr I switch to all titan units because I can afford to lose those lol
You can delete the DC and INNO before the traz lol
I'm in titan and I'm only using previous era units because titan sucks hard, I can't imagine deleting traz with the amount of units I'm losing right now
Understood that my thoughts won’t work for everyone. Taking my ark to 180, I’m using all the FP I can take advantage of in my city from past investments. The Deal castle I only put down for guild friends that needed blueprints then I’m deleting it. After I hit 180 on the Ark, the Inno is going go bye-bye.
If we keep Deleting GB's. What are we going to spend FP's on ???
Good question. My real hope is that Inno will GREATLY improve Great Buildings.
Re settlements the Mughal Temple give 130 FP
I still need to get that one. I ignored them forever, now I have to get to it. Kudos to Inno making them relevant.
Hi,
actually I have arc 180, AO 120, titan engamer. And actually I feel the same thing with alcatraz, after anniversary event it goes away (lvl 70 rn). I am producing tons of units a day. About deal a SBC , they are rly bad buildings for me, but for others struggling with blue stats they may sound better, but I have like 3000/5000 blue attack so no probs with it - many feta farms, ciders and also game changing jesters and aegans :)
RIght now all of my fp and goods income kinda goes into guild GBs, cause I have nothing better to spend on - having obs 100, AI core 100, hydra 68 (going for 80) and thinking about building Atom but idk, whether worth it - fps would be no problem for lvl 100 even
from event buildings I am producing more and more jesters (38 right now) and my goal is to have around 8-10 finish special productions produced just by buildings from city (around 240-300 fragments daily).
after that I will probably invest my fps into getting other titan trio buildings from 50 to 80, seed vault and higher lvls of guild goods gbs.
Thanks for the comment, your spot on regarding these buildings related to the Aegean items, cider gardens, etc.
I very quickly deleted my traz after gaining some great event buildings. My city is only 5 months old and I already produce 165 troops a day from event buildings not including double batches thanks to BG.
You're doing it right. How's it going now? I've deleted several more GB's since and good with it.
I’ll never delete the traz. It gives me 142 perma frost drones a day. I go through a lot when running up the attrition. I am considering though the need for my TOB LOA etc. I had them to trade down goods for the treasury. Not sure the drain is that bad now with gvg going by by .
Yeah GbG kills so many troops Traz is still needed
I don’t disagree. I’m going to do a follow up video clarifying where I’m aiming with this strategy. In my case, I discuss why I don’t need it, but I am not recommending this as a cookie cutter approach.
More like Alcatrash
My Traz gives me 300 units/day as it is collected 3x per day...a miinimum of 200/day...and I fight 6-10k battles in GBG...So I would run out of troops if I was to delete my Traz
Makes complete sense for your gameplay objectives to keep that thing!
What I see is that all those event building are taking up so much of your city's real estate, I don't think its worth it to ditch the Traz.
Settlement negotiation does not trigger SC unfortunately
oh crap! Did it used to? Thx for clarifying
I think is better to just sell/store some buildings giving units ,
replace them with good productions buildings,
and GIFT/give those goods to 'poor' small ACTIVE players ,
(in or out of your guild)
in order to build Great Buildings far more advanced than their age,,,
,,,,,,man !!!(and keep Traz)
goods production buildings? who uses those beyond the first month of starting a city...? you can get far more goods from event buildings and from recurring quests with a high CF. In any case, you cannot gift goods to smaller players, they have to still pay for them with their own goods.
@@Xia-hu yes Xia ,,but they can just pay 50 Marble for 100 Bio TechCrops !!,so that is a gift.
And yes,,,may not production buildings but you got my point...
good guilds have been helping newbies to get higher age GBs anyways. what else can you do with biotech in bronze age anyways? we have always helped eager newbies to get the necessary goods, that's not really a good reason to delete the Traz :))))))@@DimitrisTsoykalas
I am having a hard time understanding what you are talking about so it would be better if you explained the building you have, how you got them and what they do in you city. It interests me how most of your buildings have a small footprint which I think INNO has made a big mistake in putting into the game which has added to the power creep. I believe the game should have been built around the GBs and not had so much fighting elements. I tire of the endless fighting in this game as well as other games. It take a lot less creativity to have fighting in a game then to base it on some other focus.
I agree about the focus now being so heavy on battles. When I first joined the game, the marketing message was 'You can build an empire, trade if you want, battle, make friends etc". It's far less rounded than it used to be.