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  • @BSCxXASHXx
    @BSCxXASHXx Місяць тому +300

    Someone picked 2 Armanz in live arena against me, I countered by picking the leave button.

    • @rhettmeyers474
      @rhettmeyers474 Місяць тому +3

      Wow that sucks. Haven’t seen that yet but I’m sure it’s coming. Can’t even ban him at that point.

    • @jeremyn.1000
      @jeremyn.1000 Місяць тому +7

      I think that was me. I loled

    • @TheQwagmyer
      @TheQwagmyer Місяць тому +3

      That's phucking great. Lmfao. The only counter against it 😆 🤣

    • @Hammerage1
      @Hammerage1 Місяць тому +3

      Someone did that to me too. Was an easy win, because I had champions in stoneskin and could outspeed them.

    • @jhernandez52776
      @jhernandez52776 Місяць тому +2

      lol another way to deal with that is to move up to gold.

  • @SubZole
    @SubZole Місяць тому +107

    There are a lot of useless old legendary champions. They should just buff/rework some of them to be a viable counter to Armanz.

    • @mr.Lumpy3803
      @mr.Lumpy3803 Місяць тому +17

      They will be more likely to introduce a new champion that counters him. That way they can sell shards.

    • @leeclemarc
      @leeclemarc Місяць тому +3

      lots of counters to Armaz people are just upset they need to rework current teams, not a lot players need to most effective counter is go 1st and have a plan, if you go 2nd team you should already have and plan to avoid excess control and nukes

    • @geem9307
      @geem9307 Місяць тому +4

      buffing OLD champions doesn't make plarium NEW money. Thats the issue.

    • @harryhoudini714
      @harryhoudini714 Місяць тому +2

      they dont want to! have you seen the latest Lego they introduced? Adelyn? thank god she is "free" and cant be pulled from Shards (yet) because good lord that champ has a kit worse then some rares (I kid you not, go ahead and compare Coldheart to her).
      They want a certain amount of crappy legos in the pool because they know that Krakens and Whales will spend all kinds of money to "snipe" for that one op Lego and every crappy lego they get is more money for Paylarium.
      Those guys are "professionals" dont forget that!

    • @BasementPepperoni
      @BasementPepperoni 26 днів тому

      He's actually really easy to kill, like most champions.
      Just gotta go first.

  • @ramhirbertram1
    @ramhirbertram1 Місяць тому +29

    I usually pick mithrala when I see Armanz and it works most of the times. I don't think he needs to be nerfed. I think Plarium will make more champions to counter him. Like maybe a champion with a passive that counters turn meter stealing and stuff like that

    • @gaulucky92
      @gaulucky92 Місяць тому +2

      This. He counters stone skin, high RES champions counter him.
      He's powerful and many players have them, thus the controversy. If everyone is getting Marichka and Taras I think they would get the same issue.

  • @TheQwagmyer
    @TheQwagmyer Місяць тому +82

    Armanz helped me to finally beat doom tower hard as well.

    • @kellyqv1838
      @kellyqv1838 Місяць тому +1

      Yesss me to

    • @miggo8203
      @miggo8203 Місяць тому

      @@kellyqv1838 using armanz in pve and classic arena isnt the issue its live arnea where hes an issue. they should just lock him from live arena and the problem disappears, people get to keep their op champ for pve and classic arena and matches in live arena dont soley rely on picking armanz or banning him.

    • @zsoltkarman649
      @zsoltkarman649 Місяць тому +1

      im only able to climb lv 50-70 now i think im able to beat the secont rota in hard. the only wall is Bommal i think. I really dont want a nerfed armanz, or nerf him in only arena. Also he help me clear barbarian fw and thanks to him i have the Deathsiren.

    • @diZno8
      @diZno8 Місяць тому +2

      yeap, me to

    • @isaiastravieso2142
      @isaiastravieso2142 Місяць тому +2

      Yeah me too

  • @bigpoppadrockrsl
    @bigpoppadrockrsl Місяць тому +62

    Great video, Ash! Stoked to talk Armanz with you! Also that clip of the party scene with Tormin/Polymorph etc legit had me crying laughing 😂 Kudos to your editor on a job well done there!

  • @proy14
    @proy14 Місяць тому +10

    As a low spender, Armanz made possible for me to reach silver 3 in tag team arena. It opened me the higher levels of Doom Tower hard.

  • @montemanjay
    @montemanjay Місяць тому +90

    I finally built my Armanz and put him in live arena. People ban him over my Yumeko... food for thought.

    • @thabangkebinatau
      @thabangkebinatau Місяць тому +5

      All of them are a problem so many overpowered champs in arena

    • @gkar9757
      @gkar9757 Місяць тому +17

      Yumeko is not so bad in LA.
      She's not total lockout.
      Warlord is trouble.
      BUT Armanz is just toxic.
      It's not the you lose, but the way you lose.

    • @montemanjay
      @montemanjay Місяць тому +6

      @@gkar9757 I used to always yell at my screen when I met a double/triple turn meter team faster than me "CAN I GET A TURN?!" Feels the same lol.

    • @rpimjada1549
      @rpimjada1549 Місяць тому +8

      Armanz threatned built teams by whalers. Just saying.

    • @rpimjada1549
      @rpimjada1549 Місяць тому +3

      @@thabangkebinatau Right. Nerf Armanz then nerf them all. Fair play.

  • @robertpease9834
    @robertpease9834 Місяць тому +6

    Nerfing him would hurt those running Doom Tower, who are relying on him.

    • @BasementPepperoni
      @BasementPepperoni 26 днів тому

      Absolutely, I've actually been having A LOT more fun playing the game specifically because of that champion.

  • @mr.Lumpy3803
    @mr.Lumpy3803 Місяць тому +66

    If they aren't going to nerf Taras, Marichka, UDK, Yumeko, or Trunda. They better not nerf Armanz. People just need to stop crying, and just figure out a counter to him.

    • @bradduff3989
      @bradduff3989 Місяць тому +3

      Exactly This!!

    • @thrasher3222
      @thrasher3222 Місяць тому +3

      Yes, THIS

    • @teddysaliwa5770
      @teddysaliwa5770 Місяць тому +3

      The counter is resisting

    • @Extasei
      @Extasei Місяць тому +3

      Okay but I'm kinda new to this game so, how do you counter him when you can't even land one attack because of the never ending crowd control?

    • @Neuvillete4.6
      @Neuvillete4.6 Місяць тому

      ​@Extasei res. Or a champion that cleanse and boost tm or a fast block debuffer

  • @OldGamr
    @OldGamr Місяць тому +8

    How do you think we feel when we go against a Rotos, or Taras. Now the field is a bit more level.

  • @carlossobral5141
    @carlossobral5141 Місяць тому +56

    i didnt get him, i was off from raid, im so upset, this guy is a monster

    • @Davinhomx
      @Davinhomx Місяць тому +3

      Me too bro😂😂😂 2 months and I missed so much😂😂

    • @jtodd0221
      @jtodd0221 Місяць тому

      I just started playing right before he was introduced, I thought I’d be able to do the fusion but I wasn’t even close.

    • @harryhoudini714
      @harryhoudini714 Місяць тому +2

      You did get Adelyn and a "Fuk you" Note from Paylarium instead right?

    • @thedoomslayer5863
      @thedoomslayer5863 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@jtodd0221fusions are just wayyy too hard if u didn't save up and spend money sadly

    • @liamskelly7825
      @liamskelly7825 Місяць тому +1

      Plarium FOMO is real

  • @yinzer9397
    @yinzer9397 Місяць тому +17

    I dont have Armanz, I just dont play live arena, I dont have the meta champs to compete.

    • @mathewyerry2072
      @mathewyerry2072 Місяць тому +1

      It’s fun once in a while , but mostly just frustrating. Everyone has Tara’s and Marishka. Or bringing 700 resist siphi/ rotos with nekret and some insane support

    • @reddevils3537
      @reddevils3537 Місяць тому

      Same!

  • @ryanvancleave2418
    @ryanvancleave2418 Місяць тому +6

    Leave him alone... remember what happened when they nerfed Siphi and Rotos? Pepperidge Farms Remembers! Yes, he can be a pain in the backside, but there are counters to him, accessable counters too. I use him in Hard DT where I was struggling to get past certain floors (Looking at you Mortu/Skytouched), nerf himm and I'm back to pulling my hair out trying to beat RNG.

  • @slawdawg23
    @slawdawg23 Місяць тому +37

    I can beat almost any team but any team with Armanz I try to avoid. I ban him every time, no matter what. Every time. He is so OP>

    • @rpimjada1549
      @rpimjada1549 Місяць тому +5

      here lies the problem. when players finally see a weakness in their teams. cry babies scream nerf.

    • @dexterj5896
      @dexterj5896 Місяць тому

      Because you can't take turn once armanz has his turn. Plus, sheep is cancer.

    • @OshKoshBuhGosh
      @OshKoshBuhGosh Місяць тому +1

      Be honest...you're in silver arent you

    • @NeonSlime-uu5kt
      @NeonSlime-uu5kt Місяць тому

      ​@@rpimjada1549A lot of us have him and still say the champ is way too OP
      Buff Mountain King

  • @KikiSpike
    @KikiSpike Місяць тому +21

    For me, Armanz has helped make battles in Classic and Silver LA quicker as there is now a counter to UDK and Stoneskin. I would be upset if they nerfed him without nerfing UDK and really nerfing Stoneskin.

    • @miggo8203
      @miggo8203 Місяць тому +1

      i think armanz is okay to use in classic arena, but her shouldnt be used in live arena.

    • @ebolachanislove6072
      @ebolachanislove6072 Місяць тому

      Stoneskin - Bombs. people sleep on bombs too hard because content creators trash on them, but ever since I built my Warmother i *pray for* enemy Stoneskin.

  • @Garbearishere
    @Garbearishere Місяць тому +5

    I made a video with some (I think) good opinions. None of the previous “OP” champs were “nerfed” but instead insane new champions were brought in to counter them. Think UDK > rotos.
    We also have the new fusion coming with an intercept buff, which is a hard counter as well.
    There are so many areas of the game to be improved, I hardly think focusing one champions is fruitful

    • @jkuykendoll
      @jkuykendoll Місяць тому

      They nerfed Siphi, and they have nerfed Rotos two or three different times (not that you would notice since that SOB is still so crazy OP). Sometimes it is just eaiser to rebalance one champion rather than trying to design some counter.

  • @DavidJimenez-wj8wj
    @DavidJimenez-wj8wj Місяць тому +5

    Before Armanz, I couldn't farm Doom Tower hard - always got stuck on the Rotos/Siphi waves. Now I can advance, so I'm a fan.

  • @richardmay3803
    @richardmay3803 Місяць тому +11

    I wish I have him, but rejoined the game after a long break halfway through his fusion, so no WuKong and no Armanz, live arena is painful.

  • @Javelinoflight
    @Javelinoflight Місяць тому +32

    Armanz helped me finish DTH. I am a very low spender and he provides resources for me to grow my account. I think he is an addition for newer players (if they could finish the fusion) to help grow the account. He is not only a pvp-mon, he can be used basically anywhere (kinda like Geo). One way to nerf Armanz would be to increase cooldown on A2 with 1 turn. That way, the endless loop can be broken. Noteworthy is also to bring force mons with high-ish res as the spells can weak hit. Bruiser comps is almost a must.

    • @TheMissingPluto
      @TheMissingPluto Місяць тому

      Same here

    • @miggo8203
      @miggo8203 Місяць тому +2

      @@TheMissingPluto armanz is fine to use in pve content and classic arnea. its live arena where hes a major problem

    • @Richkids-tx7qy
      @Richkids-tx7qy Місяць тому

      TOO TRUE

    • @454slowride
      @454slowride Місяць тому +1

      I use high resist Rathalos and Gwyndolin against him. To hopefully not get stunned and nuke his ass.

    • @AdrianGado
      @AdrianGado Місяць тому +2

      We love him in PVE. It’s PVP where we can’t stand him

  • @John-pz1zx
    @John-pz1zx Місяць тому +16

    I'm a ftp player and I've been playing for 2 years and I've only done 4 fusions, armanz being one of them. It took so much time and resources to get him and if he was nerfed it put such a sour taste in my mouth to the point that I wouldn't go for any future fusions. Yes he's a nightmare to face in the arena but that's why I went for him.

    • @henrymills9578
      @henrymills9578 Місяць тому +3

      I agree and know how you feel I almost quit the game when they did that to Emic after 1 CC posted a vid he could literally help you one key UNM clan boss and then they nerfed him halfway through the fragment fusion for him since then I've only bothered doing a couple since then including Armanz. He gets nerfed like Emic did I'm quitting the game.

    • @hanspeter-jf1yf
      @hanspeter-jf1yf Місяць тому +1

      idc if youre crying, one champ breaking the game is unquestionably bad for a game. you dont have to nerf him into uselessness, nerf him to be strong but not broken op, if you cry about this youre simply a little child

    • @ebolachanislove6072
      @ebolachanislove6072 Місяць тому

      @@hanspeter-jf1yf tbh i'd be 100% fine with everything in his kit if his base speed was around the 103 area.

    • @freeeggs3811
      @freeeggs3811 Місяць тому

      @@hanspeter-jf1yfthen they also have to nerf all the other game breaking champions

    • @stefaniverson2739
      @stefaniverson2739 Місяць тому

      Sucks to suck. Nerfs happen in live service games and you should know that before spending all your resources on a clearly broken champion that obviously needs a nerf.

  • @heathkershaw-zy1fj
    @heathkershaw-zy1fj Місяць тому +3

    As a basically a F2P guy, I went for Armanz. It allows me to complete with whales, as long as I’m faster, I win.. doesn’t matter what they spent. What Palarium is doing is making these crazy champs that are a new breed. Having all these summon events for all the OG top tier champs so it makes them worthless and sets a stage to start selling the new breed.. like mythical, faction guards, and champs ,like Armanz

  • @Sigma-Epsilon
    @Sigma-Epsilon Місяць тому +44

    No NERF for Armanz the Magnificent…… unless you nerf Taras, Maricka and Yumeko first, for low spenders and free to play players he opens up a lot more options and content faster than they would otherwise have been available to them.
    The real problem is that Whales, Krakens and Leviathans can’t spend their money to get past Armanz.
    The arena has gotten faster and higher resistance teams are now being used. Taras can be countered with Armanz. Mithrala Lifebane teams are back in areas.
    Do I like the affect of Armanz and polymorph on the arena?
    No.
    I do however think that Armanz is necessary for the current state of the game.

    • @fidelsyrianoudis
      @fidelsyrianoudis Місяць тому

      But what do u tell newer players who started after he was released? They will quite literally never progress in any arena if they don’t luckily pull him

    • @nkrusz
      @nkrusz Місяць тому +9

      ​@@fidelsyrianoudissame thing you tell people who didn't get UDK, ninja, all the monster hunters...

    • @fidelsyrianoudis
      @fidelsyrianoudis Місяць тому +2

      @@nkrusz I have most of those champs the monster hunters suck with a few exceptions and Ninja isn’t nearly as meta as Armanz is lol not even close you can replace ninja you cannot replace Armanz. You can easily progress through the game without those champions meanwhile you don’t have a chance in he11 if you don’t have Armanz and you are new

    • @fidelsyrianoudis
      @fidelsyrianoudis Місяць тому +1

      @@nkrusz and you can get UDK in shards

    • @PanteraEnjoyer
      @PanteraEnjoyer Місяць тому +5

      @@fidelsyrianoudis I am a ftp player of like 6 months and I missed UDK. I was getting stomped very often, until armanz fusion came out. I grinded my ass off and finally have a chance to beat teams in arena. I finally have a counter to full meta teams. If new players come, I am sure they will have a new powercreep champion given to them in one of the free champ events or new fusions.

  • @spider7665
    @spider7665 Місяць тому +4

    For the love of god do not nerf him, after all this effort. Ban his sheep skill from the Arena or Ban him completely from Arena or something similar but I need him for PvE

  • @derekshen5471
    @derekshen5471 Місяць тому +2

    Raid's strategy for fixing OP heroes has always been single directional: pest control. When you have a pest introduce a predator.

  • @problemsolver3175
    @problemsolver3175 Місяць тому +3

    Constantly have to go against wu kong, UDK, and stone skin. Is even worse then Armanz in my opinion.

  • @user-hr4kq4zm2p
    @user-hr4kq4zm2p Місяць тому +41

    Ash, I’m a big fan but the emo bangs in your watcher of realms ad was just too much😂

    • @bunk1860
      @bunk1860 Місяць тому +5

      I was thinking he looked like Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg from The Fifth Element movie.

    • @danbardos3498
      @danbardos3498 Місяць тому +3

      I'm getting Spider Man 3 vibes lol.

    • @peanutheadrules
      @peanutheadrules Місяць тому

      I got a Hell Hades ad on Ash’s video and was like wait, did I not click on the right video?? 😂

    • @Profess0rCactus
      @Profess0rCactus Місяць тому

      I was thinking Bieber

    • @Jamesnpk
      @Jamesnpk Місяць тому +1

      I heard that when ash was a young boy, someone took him into the city to see a marching band

  • @necrosmurf316
    @necrosmurf316 Місяць тому +3

    Leorius is a good counter for Armanz because he cant be stunned when his A2 is not on cool down. The only problem is how many people are lucky enough to have that particular void legendary?
    Are there any other champs immune to stun? Plarium will probably add some more over time to avoid having to nerf Armanz.

    • @bogdangonczy9107
      @bogdangonczy9107 Місяць тому +1

      He still gets his tm depleted tho.. then on next turn he can be sheeped 🤷‍♂️

    • @necrosmurf316
      @necrosmurf316 Місяць тому

      @@bogdangonczy9107 yeah hes not a perfect counter, you need high resist. The "steal turn meter" _is_ ridiculous though. Counter attack mechanics help out a bit to deal with the turn meter steal but Armanz is still a badly designed champ. Way too much control in one skill.
      Edit: I just remembered the sheep cant be blocked to high resist wouldnt help.

  • @meostafford
    @meostafford Місяць тому +5

    There's a live arena? I wouldn't know, i'm way to busy just trying to do dailies and prep for fusions. Wait, there's a sand devils too? Damn, lol, oh look, what's this shoguns grove thingy? and would you look at that, here's a iron twin tower in dungeons, too bad it costs so much or I might be able to squeeze it in at the end of the night after hydra which takes an hour and a half...........but for real i guess i just don't care because i will never play in that level of arena, gold live or plat, because i won't spend that amount of money, but i will say i like this toon in doom tower. He takes that grind and makes it easier to accomplish so i can move on which is a huge help.

  • @dustnea
    @dustnea Місяць тому +5

    I have 3 accounts. Before Armanz i couldn't get into gold arena in any of them and i was stuck behind the Arbiter Affinty bonus missions because i hated Arena so much. Now all my accounts are in high gold arena and i can finally progress in the game. He saved me from almost giving the game up.

    • @aelinstue9431
      @aelinstue9431 Місяць тому

      Until old accounts with him fall into the lower brackets and he makes it literally impossible for some accounts to beat him.

    • @dustnea
      @dustnea Місяць тому

      @@aelinstue9431 they'll just do like they always do and add a new character or 2 that are hard counters to him. Same thing happened with UDK. Lots couldn't get past him in arena then newer free characters helped get past him. It's an ever evolving game and things even out overtime. It's better to keep moving forward and not nerf characters after players work hard to get them.

    • @hanspeter-jf1yf
      @hanspeter-jf1yf Місяць тому

      @@dustnea translation: i got armanz and im greedy and egoistic and dont care about the game i care about me winning only so you cant nerf him

    • @freeeggs3811
      @freeeggs3811 Місяць тому

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@hanspeter-jf1yf translation: I am a kraken I spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on the game, I deserve to win every single fight, it isn’t fair my +4 mythicals are being countered screw 99% of the player base I only care about myself.

  • @bytemevv-4616
    @bytemevv-4616 Місяць тому +3

    *PLARIUM:* _Dance puppets, dance...._
    _...I mean dance, SHEEPS DANCE lol_

  • @KaccheAam
    @KaccheAam Місяць тому +2

    I'm an FTP player and gave up all my resources to get Armanz via fusion. So don't even think about touching Armanz. If Raid do, that will be my last day in Raid.

  • @andrewheitz2328
    @andrewheitz2328 Місяць тому +5

    Did Osama put a super tooper reference in the video? Give that man another raise lol.

  • @friendlygiant2314
    @friendlygiant2314 Місяць тому +6

    I don't do live arena, but any time I see Armanz I just add Hoskarul to the team and usually it's a cake walk after that. If he can't infinite stun, he's killable.

    • @mariushornung8996
      @mariushornung8996 Місяць тому +1

      Nice hint there, Hoskarul might really be a good counter, ty!

    • @MrSimeonk
      @MrSimeonk Місяць тому

      Genius

  • @VictoryHand
    @VictoryHand Місяць тому +6

    One of the key things a game like this needs is reasons for people to pull more shards. And like it or not armanz does that. As soon as there is a counter champion for armanz released in the shards whales will go crazy to pull it. And that keeps the cycle going. If all the Wales have all the top champs and there's no reason for them to pull more shards the game will die.

  • @mooredrat5065
    @mooredrat5065 Місяць тому +2

    I think that very soon we're gonna start seeing people getting Horsey, who's just about the perfect Jack counter, and all the screams will shift to "enfeeble breaks arena. NERF!"

  • @ericpunjabi2014
    @ericpunjabi2014 Місяць тому +2

    I would also argue that every meta has had a counter either discovered after introduction or has been later added to the game. If one exists, someone with a creative mind will find it, and if it does not exist yet, chances are high it will be added and someone will discover it. I wish I had a creative mind, find something that works if you do, and make creating that counter to the meta the fun part.

    • @jeremym2274
      @jeremym2274 Місяць тому +1

      armanz can be countered, in live arena just ban him if you don't want to fight him, or Hegimon is a great counter (lock him out of his skills) Tormin has a freeze that can work as well, and if all of that fails, get champs that can't be stunned like a Norog.

    • @ericpunjabi2014
      @ericpunjabi2014 Місяць тому

      @@jeremym2274 This is great and thank you for sharing. Just hope more people look at champions like Armanz from a different perspective and instead of seeing only the negative because these champions add difficulty look at it a different way of a challenge to find ways to overcome. Just like with life, when something gets hard nobody should ever give up or complain about it getting harder, meet the challenge and find a way to overcome it. So your counters are one great way to go about it.

  • @upgrader99
    @upgrader99 Місяць тому +6

    Ok, well, is op outside of arena or just really good?
    Now with that question out of the way, maybe it's arena that is stupid? (Esp live arena - i don't have 15 minutes to battle slow people)

  • @454slowride
    @454slowride Місяць тому +3

    I just started playing. I do not have Armanz or Sun Wu. I am currently Gold 1 in live arena. It is a hard decision on who to ban. Arbiter, Armanz, Sun Wu, Mithrala, Hirama,... none of which I have.

    • @freeeggs3811
      @freeeggs3811 Місяць тому

      Are you f2p?

    • @454slowride
      @454slowride Місяць тому

      @freeeggs3811 I am not F2P. I do forge pass and energy from time to time.

  • @robertmutsch6718
    @robertmutsch6718 Місяць тому +2

    My experience in gold 3 live, armamz is picked and banned 100% of the time. The main problem is the turnmeter steal on his a2 pretty much guarantees he goes twice. Then he needs to only take one more turn to do it again, while your team needs one turn to burn off the stun. And now he’s ready to stun you again.

  • @joachim5143
    @joachim5143 Місяць тому +1

    Armanz was my first fusion ever. I'm so happy with this guy. He helped me in so many places in PvE. I missed the Gnut fusion so I'm happy that I have another great champ for PvE now. The day they nerv Armanz will be the final day for me in Raid. As a F2P player it is hard to get hands on good champs. Yes, he is painfull in Arena but also an account changer in PvE for me.

  • @chibuzornwogu770
    @chibuzornwogu770 Місяць тому +3

    Armanz is the great equalizer, allows low spenders to stay somewhat competitive. Of course the krakens hate him because he occasionnally counters their Star Sage Galathir and +4 Taras/Marichka. I love him, I get to give the filthy mythical spammers a taste of their own medecine once in a while. Dont nerf Armanz, nerf all the Mythicals instead.

  • @seanwetrich8299
    @seanwetrich8299 Місяць тому +5

    Simple fix. Change his skill for arena. Instead of stealing the turn meter, it only depletes it. Then he isn't taking an immediate second turn.

  • @modernthinker300
    @modernthinker300 Місяць тому +2

    No nerf needed.
    Learn better counterplay (robust counterplay options are currently present).

  • @Aadorna1
    @Aadorna1 Місяць тому +2

    TBH Armanz makes me farming great hall so much more enjoyable. Got my first affinity to 10 because of this man. I have actually started playing LA because he will let me compete.
    Love him or hate him he gets newer players into arena in all levels.

  • @SomeBlackGuy
    @SomeBlackGuy Місяць тому +6

    He hasn't been a problem for me anywhere. If I go fist in arena, dealing with Armanz is easy. He's awesome in PvE. I really don't see the problem.

  • @aarondavis8224
    @aarondavis8224 Місяць тому +8

    The people who hate Armanz are usually the people who didnt do the fusion 😂

  • @geminiman6128
    @geminiman6128 Місяць тому +1

    I don't mind Armanz as much as Yumiko, Basher, Warlord and Krixia.

  • @romellejacinto251
    @romellejacinto251 Місяць тому +2

    Arman brought me to gold 1 of tag team arena, thank you Plarium.

  • @WBandoy
    @WBandoy Місяць тому +5

    Nah, Drock. I need Armanz left alone. He's helped me win some more matches in the dreaded Tag Arena.

  • @mpyraola2029
    @mpyraola2029 Місяць тому +5

    Ban Armanz if you don't want to face him. There are a lot of champs that need a buff rather than nerf.

  • @xJPolley
    @xJPolley Місяць тому +1

    Add a new live arena 2 piece set: 1 turn immunity buff (2/3 turn with more sets) and reduce tm reduction effects 30%. This avoids a nerf, as well as any fomo of balancing him with a new legendary/fusion to counter.

  • @modernthinker300
    @modernthinker300 Місяць тому +1

    I would far rather pick 2nd in Arena.
    Ban their 1st pick Armanz, or... build a counter team to him and ban one of their other picks to disrupt whatever they've tried to construct as a comp.

  • @joshfedie5938
    @joshfedie5938 Місяць тому +6

    Hes the reason I was able to beat hard doom tower finally. His wave control is unprecedented. I understand this bleeds to pvp which is an area I care little about but for pve he's in every wave based team I run almost. Let's me focus on building a team for the boss more than the waves. If there is a nerf it needs to be for pvp content only

  • @zachhaist6426
    @zachhaist6426 Місяць тому +5

    I hope they dont touch him and leave him the way he is

    • @paulholmes8398
      @paulholmes8398 Місяць тому +1

      Agreed alot of people including myself put alot of effort and time into the fusion to get him. For them just to nerf him, would they be so dumb maybe. Or just bring out a fusion champ or void champ to counter him.

  • @jayjaynator2911
    @jayjaynator2911 Місяць тому +1

    I would say :
    Whale prefer picking first.
    Strategist prefer pick number 2-3.

  • @AroneousYT
    @AroneousYT Місяць тому +1

    It feels like Plarium is looking to have player base build resistance teams. Because there's currently NO RESIST META... Champions like Borogar, Mithrala, Oella, etc. that are resistance heavy are the only chance against Armanz unless you're faster and lock out or bomb or stun lock him, active skill lock him. Most of the time he's in SS and Polymorph so it's a total gamble to bomb him and the average player doesn't have 400+ speed champs plus the resistance champs NEVER HAVE AURAS with Speed... There needs to be an update to resistance champs, making them have faster speed as a base stat and or higher resistance auras or base resistance auras. The kits they have are so basic and also don't do much damage or provide the team with better utility. I hope they consider making better resistance champs if they never nerf Armanz.

  • @tristanm8838
    @tristanm8838 Місяць тому +7

    I LOVE armanz he single handedly allowed me to climb live and classic and 3v3 arena, and is super helpful for climbing doom tower

    • @hanspeter-jf1yf
      @hanspeter-jf1yf Місяць тому

      cant believe people are so utterly egoistic and greedy, you winning the game is no argument to not ban a broken champion that literally makes the game broken and shit. literal childish egoists in the comments, poor state of humanity. idc if im winning, i can clearly see this champ breaks the game hence it sucks, i dont enjoy having armanz in every fucking battle no matter if im winning 100% of the time bc im not a dumb child

  • @wcgdenmasterken3431
    @wcgdenmasterken3431 Місяць тому +3

    Urogrim was NOT a fusion, nerfing a fusion is a bad thing.

  • @BryonLape
    @BryonLape Місяць тому +1

    I must be in the wrong arena. I never see him.

  • @coleballenger4595
    @coleballenger4595 Місяць тому

    2:37 Ash with your hair falling like that you look like a My Chemical Romance enjoyer from early high school lol! Love the vid dude, can't wait for the BPD collab. I just don't even try to fight Armanz teams in arena anymore so I think I'm with him lol.

  • @OverlordRising
    @OverlordRising Місяць тому +27

    When a kraken or whale thinks a champion should be nerfed it absolutely shouldn't be. People at the top of the leader boards want to maintain their advantage, and disruptive champions relevel the playing field and require everyone to develop new strategies.

    • @HarryToeface
      @HarryToeface Місяць тому +4

      Except whales are going to have him at +4 before normies will ever have him as a +1. If you don't think+4 matters...I don't know what to tell you

    • @franklingoodwin
      @franklingoodwin Місяць тому +4

      ​@@HarryToefaceYeah, but they're the minority, and the only reason they want him nerfed is to stop other Krakens beating them. Why should I a FTP have to suffer when I've been fortunate enough to have two Armanz without spending a penny on the game?

    • @MoltenMeta
      @MoltenMeta Місяць тому +1

      I'm basically free to play but I fucking hate this champion in PvP.

    • @HarryToeface
      @HarryToeface Місяць тому

      @@Dez1708 that makes zero sense because they have them too

    • @HarryToeface
      @HarryToeface Місяць тому +1

      @@franklingoodwin you aren't beating any kraken or whales as a f2p just fyi

  • @personwithcommonname
    @personwithcommonname Місяць тому +1

    Only my opinion, and I haven't tried it in Live Arena yet. I counter Armanz with Acelin the Stalwart. From his passive - 1 Faction ally: Allies under [Shield] buffs are immune to [Stun], [Freeze], [Sleep], [Provoke], [Fear], [True Fear], and [Petrification] debuff. It doesn't help with [Polymorph] but it shuts down Armanz' aoe [Stun] which I find counters him enough for me.

  • @Mageman
    @Mageman Місяць тому +1

    To be honest, I don't like PvP. I'm still at the bottom of Silver 2 in live arena and do a couple of battles a week.
    Recently in live arena - someone got first pick and selected Armanz, I picked Armanz and Warlord. His last pick was Arbiter (his only reviver). My last 2 were both Arbiters (ban one, I still have one). My ban was Arbiter (no revive, no speed lead & banner) and his ban was Armanz. So I would have lapped him with double Arbiters and locked him out with Warlord. After the ban phase, he left the battle.
    One advantage to Armanz in PvE in Doom Tower: Dark Fae - now easy, Double Mortu-Macaab - now a lot easier. Faction Wars - a lot easier.
    I don't expect them to nerf Armanz.

  • @user-tt6cy4fp2w
    @user-tt6cy4fp2w Місяць тому +6

    There is always a counter

    • @leroybanging2687
      @leroybanging2687 Місяць тому

      When you find it let me know.

    • @nkrusz
      @nkrusz Місяць тому

      I haven't lost to him yet.

  • @bdiax
    @bdiax Місяць тому +8

    He has been such a huge help for classic arena. I don’t have my hall maxed and he is allowing me to take on fights I wouldn’t normally. (Looking at you UDK) I really hope they don’t nerf 😅

    • @rpimjada1549
      @rpimjada1549 Місяць тому

      but the cry babies whose teams cost them hundreds even thousands of USD suddenly find them weak. so they cry nerf.

  • @user-pu9iy1dr6e
    @user-pu9iy1dr6e Місяць тому

    ASH what the hell was that hair In your sponsor video 😂 your killin me

  • @nonamenoone1484
    @nonamenoone1484 Місяць тому +1

    Haha! I was going to mention that big Urogrim nerf, but someone else did that for me, thanks so much for that. Urogrim wasn’t so ridiculously OP but they did him dirty which I’m obviously still doesn’t sit well with me.

  • @tr1n1t17
    @tr1n1t17 Місяць тому +3

    As you said, Plarium wants the PVP meta to evolve constantly (=> in order to sell more). That's why they release new OP champions.
    But PvP is a Rock Paper Scissors game.
    Atm Armanz is super strong because players have not adapted yet.
    But there are a lot of ways to counter Armanz : Speed+Lockout, Full Stoneskin team, double DPS in Stoneskin, Sheep, Force champions (Harima, Mikage, ...). Play him and you 'll see : he destroys teams that are not prepared for him but struggles against those who are.

    • @hanspeter-jf1yf
      @hanspeter-jf1yf Місяць тому

      'bro just build your entire champs to counter one champion' definition of broken

  • @ilicdjo
    @ilicdjo Місяць тому +155

    Nope. We united: Leave Armanz alone!

    • @OshKoshBuhGosh
      @OshKoshBuhGosh Місяць тому +11

      Yes all of you down there at the bottom.

    • @user-lh8ke7dj8e
      @user-lh8ke7dj8e Місяць тому +25

      The people that are complaining about live arena are a minority. I personally don’t care if I face a Armanz. Win the speed race, or Tormin freezes him from time to time when he gets his turn meter increase. Also, he is vulnerable to being a weak infinity. Basically, people are upset because they can’t run their OP voids.

    • @peanutheadrules
      @peanutheadrules Місяць тому +7

      100%! Speed will always win no matter what anyway!!!

    • @jayjaynator2911
      @jayjaynator2911 Місяць тому +4

      Tormin is stronger... winrate don't lie

    • @jayjaynator2911
      @jayjaynator2911 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@peanutheadrulesarmanz make speed race mather again, I still win while loosing the speed race, but I forced them to waste pick/ban and now I hard counter them

  • @TFE134
    @TFE134 Місяць тому +2

    As a FTP, I love Armanz. Gives me a fighting chance in arenas. Sorry ash I don’t live PVP. I’ve been a PVE preferred player for years.

  • @cindysimko2954
    @cindysimko2954 Місяць тому

    I have a pretty good regular Arena team with a 6 star blessed Marishka & Lady Mikage. When I went against a single Armanz, I never got a turn. He stunned everyone, turned the only active player into a sheep and just kept smacking away until everyone was dead. hmmmm We will probably figure out a way around him at some point, but it might take awhile. Maybe they could limit the stun effect, so at least one player can try to attack him.

  • @grzokas
    @grzokas Місяць тому +5

    Nerd him? They should buff him.ake his skills unresistable, That man should not need accuracy!!!

  • @GrievenceCapitolist
    @GrievenceCapitolist Місяць тому +8

    JUST BAN him from pvp . No nerf

  • @jasonsmit5211
    @jasonsmit5211 Місяць тому +1

    What's worse is I have Krixia which would be a counter but is useless against him cause of affinity -_- not lucky enough to have a warlord...

  • @Spents17
    @Spents17 Місяць тому +1

    Without Armanz i wound't be able to do so many parts/stages of the game i personally believe he shouldn't be nerfed as he enabled hard doom tower and live arena for me and many other ftp and low spenders in the game, he is literally the reason why ftp players can compete with krakens in the game, as well as allowing the gap between krakens and ftp players to not be as big.

  • @franklingoodwin
    @franklingoodwin Місяць тому +3

    I use the two Armanz strategy in Live Arena, you can't ban both of them.

  • @Trapabee
    @Trapabee Місяць тому +3

    No nerf. The game will evolve

  • @denismundia5292
    @denismundia5292 Місяць тому

    11:07 That plarium nerf meme should be included in the hall of fame 😂😂

  • @uwillnevahno6837
    @uwillnevahno6837 Місяць тому +1

    My strategy for a team w/Armanz is to move to another opponent.

  • @ghostjohn2001
    @ghostjohn2001 Місяць тому +6

    Ok, first….who didn’t know Armanz was going to be a nasty champ?
    Second, almost everyone had the chance to fuse Armanz. You had the chance, if you were too lazy, that’s on you.

    • @mr.Lumpy3803
      @mr.Lumpy3803 Місяць тому +2

      I completely agree, were not talking about some void Lego here. He was a fusion champion, so everyone had a chance to get him.

  • @simonmcpherson1323
    @simonmcpherson1323 Місяць тому +2

    he has made TTA worse...so thats impressive

  • @MugRuith
    @MugRuith Місяць тому +2

    I like Armanz. He gives free to play players a chance against some previously unbeatable teams.

  • @jaylee9527
    @jaylee9527 Місяць тому +1

    figure out to handle it. Let's say if there's a weaker champion released, will we get the same volume on getting buff on that champion?

  • @jasonharris2006
    @jasonharris2006 Місяць тому +1

    When you read the boards, the bigger issue is the drop rates for the shards. If it says you get a 25 or 50% chance to get a specific hero you get a dozen of that specific type of shard and never get the hero. That should be mathematically nearly impossible but more folks than not have experienced this. Ive had over 2 dozen sacred and void shards and have yet to geta lego or even an epic beyond the free ones I have gotten (Shaman, Chronicler Adelyn, and Deacon Armstrong.)

    • @aelinstue9431
      @aelinstue9431 Місяць тому

      I've gone 22 sacreds during a 2X event and didnt get one, it's math.
      Complaining about 22 voids and no lego or even an epic is laughable if you understand odds.
      25x events means if there is 200 legos you now have 25 put of 224 odds to pull said lego which isn't in your favor, just better than not.

    • @glamdring27
      @glamdring27 Місяць тому +1

      If you haven't even got an Epic from 2 dozen sacred shards your game is definitely bugged!

  • @TheRyanandKimberly
    @TheRyanandKimberly Місяць тому

    His A2 is effectively on a 2 turn cooldown because he automatically gets to go again after stealing everyone's turn meter.

  • @jaya6329
    @jaya6329 Місяць тому

    Armanz was intended to reintroduce the speed meta back to the arena. The speed meta actually benefit krakens more than ftp and increases gear pack spending, which is almost exclusively done by krakens. Other metas allowed way more diversity in the arena which we saw for the majority of the player base. You rarely see the same team comp in arena like we did when the speed meta was at its apex. Now that we are back in the speed meta, krakens will take over since they can spend more on resources to get better gear and gear upgrades. It also encourages the farming of high end dungeons like sand devil that the majority of player dont bother with.

  • @ami7mina
    @ami7mina Місяць тому

    Is there like an app orfeature where u can input ur uid and send it to the plarium forums so other posters could see all your roster with artifacts etc .

  • @waynescobie5561
    @waynescobie5561 Місяць тому

    Great vid but can't get over the fringe! how did you see anything?

  • @taylorhanson2843
    @taylorhanson2843 Місяць тому +1

    Hey Ash. I hear the sentiments on both sides and try to be objective when I address topics like "nerf/buff" or "OP champions." I am a low to medium spender with pretty great pve luck, but not so great pvp luck. Other than Basher, I have no meta lockout champs (Yumeko,Warlord, Krixia). I have a Siphi and a Rotos, who are great, but like most all other comps, they are easy to counter. The meta has always been mixed up by the introduction of new gear, new champs, new abilities, and new buffs/debuffs. The Ukrainian duo pretty well controlled the meta for over a year, and they are in the paywall conversation...no nerfs to them. "Solution-" add stone skin and polymorph... still busted good... try again. Now a fusion-attainable, ftp champ(Armanz) comes out who's busted good and people are upset... he IS a menace. He's supposed to be. I and hundreds of thousands of other players(including sharks, whales, Krakens) now have an option to make the opponent who has almost all other champs in the game raise an eyebrow when Armanz pops out. I have done many live arena fights where my opponent leaves my armanz, and I still lose due to bad rng, or they simply have better gear than me. That's part of the game, especially in L.A. Armanz is not uncounterable. Faster, poly, ss, high res, ban. When I pick Armanz first and they bring krixia/shu-zhen or warlord/yumeko, I'm shaking my head trying to figure out how to play locked out. It's all luck of the draw and rng... will poly proc or won't it. Will Armanz strip ss or won't he... swift parry...3% resist. The rng is far more infuriating than a "busted" champ that I can choose to ban, in my opinion. Ultimately, I only have so much sympathy for the players that have spent far more than myself. I will probably never compete with them in live arena by sheer numbers alone.... even if I lucked out and plus 4 my Armanz. My nukers probably couldn't hang anyways. The players at the top have spent a lot to get there... and if they want to continue to play there, they'll have to continue to spend... facts. For low spend/f2p, busted good, attainable champs keep the game fun. I will say, I am super excited to see what y'all come up with from Fateless!! Please go easy on the rng and kill the 3% crap...

  • @austinarmour6575
    @austinarmour6575 Місяць тому +1

    I have mine sitting there at five star because I don't have the gear He needs. It feels pointless to build him unless you can surpass 300 speed and accuracy
    8:47 your editor has a crazy amount of knowledge of little Clips like this
    BTW yes you are og af
    I'm just editing this comment as I watch the video if that wasn't clear; I didn't get Udk, Ninja, Wukong, Deliana, or Artak
    13:29 pandering lol

  • @Trump-or-Die
    @Trump-or-Die Місяць тому +1

    I'm still pissed that I got so close.

  • @DimLed1980-vt2mm
    @DimLed1980-vt2mm Місяць тому

    Thanks Ash for mentioning my comment ❤

  • @and1wanab
    @and1wanab Місяць тому +1

    I've been playing for about 3 years. And I'm stuck behind a HUGE pay wall and or power creep.
    if it wasn't for the years and hours I've put into the game, I would quit.

  • @jlehmann6963
    @jlehmann6963 Місяць тому

    I pulled Armanz as my last champion and I love it, because I finally have a total decoy for my arena team. My arena team is spectacular but only when one of them doesn’t get blocked on me.

  • @KIngaiune
    @KIngaiune Місяць тому

    There is no nerf to him directly that would change his pick rates that also wouldnt change him to vault status even in other areas of the game. The better solution would be changes to sheep (making it cleansable) and adding more counter champs like have one with a Staltus like passive that reflects stuns and is immune to turn meter steel. Having passive counters makes it not just a question of out speeding. You mentioned the resources for going for him but also dont forget the titan event that most did right after which is basically another fusion in itself.

  • @NinjAsylum
    @NinjAsylum Місяць тому

    Hasnt Watcher of Realms been available on PC since day 1? I'm confused I've been playing it on PC exclusively for months..

  • @ryanbennett2806
    @ryanbennett2806 Місяць тому

    A proper nerf would be either turning his a2 from "Steals all the Turn Meter of each target" into "Decreases the Turn Meter of each target".
    That or introduce us more champs immune to having turn meter stolen (not exactly decreased, but stolen) and letting them grant themselves a turn when someone tries.
    Generally I am against Nerfs, but that a2 into an a3 is a problem. Maybe don't let him put Sheep on people who are asleep? Still makes him OP, as he can stun and then strip any stoneskin.
    I do have Armanz and I sadly have to use him a lot, but I find running Siphi + Rotos is my best counter to him (Siphi in stoneskin) with a secondary reviver or a Spirit affinity champion (since he will always target a spirit affinity champ with the a3).

  • @JrocTheApostle
    @JrocTheApostle Місяць тому

    I'm an early game player and don't have an Armanz. But I have battled him in Silver 1 and 2 tier classic arena four times. He soloed my entire team each time without me even taking a turn. Because of that reason, I avoid him and Sun Wukong anytime I see them in the arena.

  • @jdlauer216
    @jdlauer216 Місяць тому

    Tormin dominated arena when he came out, everone was upset. His freeze was countered by an 120 day log in Epic, Dark Elhain! You hardly ever see Tormin anymore in arena. Armanz doesn't need a nerf, Plarium will just create another Dark Elhain that can't be stunned and counter-attacks whenever a stun is placed.

  • @gkar9757
    @gkar9757 Місяць тому +1

    Armanz is just a messed-up conception.
    There is not sane reason behind his existence in the game and i am sure even the devs won't be able to give a reason.
    Unfortunately, i spent resources to get him, get 6* n masteries, get 5* soul. But i will not waste books and i will not use him. I just try to develop strat considering that i will ban him no matter what they bring.
    Wasted resources 101% due to fomo.
    I regret the energy to max him.