I got good rolls of both successful warm up/gambit and repulsor/destabilizing. Personally never been a huge fan of repulsor, feel like a successful warm up/destab is the way to go. Successful warm up/gambit is fun, but suffers in both ad clear and single target damage. It's cool and fun, but feels far from optimal
I don't think that would work, unfortunately. Much like running dragonfly with headstone on the pale heart hand cannon, the dragonfly would likely proc first, unless tuned to do otherwise
I will say even for PvE Kill Clip is a standout at least especially since only other Bow with it currently is Whistler's Whim from Trials, which also has arguably worse pairing perks in the left column in comparison with Cornered really being the only PvE option. Similar to Volt Shot (Though not nearly as flashy) since you're reloading after every shot it basically means you're going to have near constant uptime on that 25% damage buff, and then since you're kill chaining a bunch anyway you may as well go Successful Warmup and have a fast Drawtime too. (Only downside is you have to get that first kill, which can be a problem sometimes once you get into higher level content.)
FYI CoolGuy you might want to add the fact that it’s a lightweight bow that for some reason caps at 540 draw time (at least visually) even though it’s a lightweight which should cap at 500 draw time. Hopefully that helps thank you for all the weapon reviews they are always helpful.
Pretty sure it's a visual glitch. The void craftable lightweight bow (can't remember name) has the same glitch, as did Arsenic Bite before it got fixed. Since it was confirmed as a visual glitch on Arsenic Bite, I'm assuming the same applies here.
Archers Gambit can activate from ads if you let go of aim just before release. It’s tricky, the timing is literally milliseconds. I don’t have the roll on this yet, but I’ve been using archers tempo gambit on pre Astanax for insanely fast kills because that second shot come so fast they barely have time to react. You’ll be able to do it possibly faster on Fortnite Star if you can get a good roll for draw time and accuracy, but lightweight accuracy right now isn’t that good, and precisions can get a precision and a body I believe depending on resilience checks, so the second shot needn’t necessarily hit the head.
If this bow was a precision it would replace my under your skin. But it being a lightweight kills it for me. Imperial needle. Bad. Letho. Nope. Under Your skin is amazing and it's 100% because its a precision. Pre astryanax is a precision, it's great. Same for strident whistle and Non-Denouement. Such a shame
Which is funny because I feel the same way but according to Bungie and the recent BUFF to Precision bow damage showed that more people use Lightweights I guess ultimately due to them doing more DPS? Personally I've always liked Precision because I've liked each shot to be impactful. Although Fortunate Star is kind of growing on me (not sure why) but I think once I've figured out the roll I want and grab any unique combos it may sit in the vault, at least until Destabilizing Rounds get's some form of a buff.
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4that was talking about in pvp, more people in pvp use lightweights than precision and the damage buff for precision is only in the pvp sandbox
most players dont care about accuracy and want the lowest draw time but accuracy is very important, its the difference between miss shot or not many times. so what's the point to have the best draw time if you miss. Dont oversee accuracy. hip fire shot arent bad in close range but kinda suck mid to long distance (suck less with enough accuracy.) Btw i have a trial bow with killclip and it aint bad, legendary bow damage suck in high end content so any dmg buff help + you always reload so it's a no brain buff
I think I'm the only lightweight bow frame enjoyer in the world. They feel good to me, I like to hip fire them. Complete aside, words like "volatile" are an interesting indication of where you first encountered the word. Coolguy pronounces it like a regular american, kinda like "volatohl." I think I must have read the word before I ever heard it cause I've always pronounced it the way the brits do despite also growing up in america. dialects are cool
I got the minimum draw time arrow + string + masterwork with successful warm-up and archers gambit, but I seriously doubt that the game actually lets all of those traits combine at their full strength
Wish it didn't cap as that would make this thing unique for fastest Bow in the game. But it does cap. I'd just go for kill clip plus warm up. Descent dmg boost on red bar clear. But save a capped speed bow in case this frame gets buffed in the future 😉
I was having a lot of fun with repulsor and gambit on a gyrfalcon's setup. really annoying that you have to do something to break invis before you can get the volatile proc though - drawing the bow does not break invis.
I hate how weighted the drop rates are to the bow. Multiple times all 5/6 of my weapon drops have been bows. There is nothing in that perk pool I will be sad to miss, while the shotgun and rocket launcher do
There is always a chance that Bungie will give this frame a buff, and I enjoy how it feels to shoot, so I'm going to get a decent roll but not farm for a 5/5
The most optimal stat spread is Polymer with a Draw Time MW. That’s 5 more Accuracy than an Elastic + Accuracy MW. And boy, do Lightweight frames need Accuracy.
I’m personally going for a roll with Repulsor brace and Archers gambit, on void or prism warlock I just chuck grenades, spread volatile with the bow, and shoot it super fast cause of AG, which leads to more grenades
I have a kill clip / air trigger, and I like air trigger on hand cannons, but I wonder if that 'target acquisition decrease' will really impact bows. What do you think of air trigger on this?
A better lightweight kinetic bow (craftable too) is Fel Taradiddle. If you're going for draw time, you can combine Archer's Tempo AND Successful Warm-up. Usable in PvP and PvE
I genuinely wonder what the design philosophy for lightweight bows was- I feel I remember them stating they were meant to be the fast-aggressive bow type? I'm not sure- I would like to know what they could do to make lightweight bows better in a way for the players where they won't step on the toes of the precision frame
I was thinking, successful warm up and Golden tricorn would make a pretty decent combo for a void build using volatile rounds. 50% damage increase and faster fire rate would be some healthy DPS.
Got the same roll that my Lethophobia (repulsor+goldentri) has to drop the first time.. so far I've gotten enlightened+goldentri... I want repulsor+killclip....
I'm a big precision bow fan. I dont like lightweights at all. I'm still not totally sold on Tyranny of Heaven, despite its abikity to make entire rooms explode. I just plain don't like them, and I think it comes down to feel. The damage, or lack thereof, is also a factor. But if this was a precision with the void wombo? Or dragonfly/destabilizing? Oh maaaaaan, I'm there! Such a good combo on Word of Crota
Polymer fiberglass archers opening... Draw/reload/accuracy either MW A bow is extremely fast TTk. How? Well you already have it drawn B4 u engage, now first shot is instant, draw time is your second shot. This is the kill shot, lightweight literally makes peak shooting easier. If you think of it as your first is instant, it cuts your TTk to .54 for first and possibly faster on your second given you have a second between kills.
I mean as far as void bows go it's great, but it's still a bow so it's gonna be niche unless Bungie decides to juice them to be budget special weapons in PvE
Cool! Cool-cool-cool! Anyway ... sidebar. I need your help and it could be a future video (wink-wink) I'm having fun playing prismatic Hunter with Bombadiers, but... as damage goes for the ba-bomb, only solar does, and i hate Golden Gun (no other solar Super). Any recommandations, build ? Have fun !
i love bows, but for PvE i feel like theres always a better exotic alternative For pvp i always use legendaries, bc monarque or wish are a bit too cringe to use against other players
they just buffed precisions in pvp which were already the dominant bow archetype there. with that in mind, i'm going to keep one disruption break roll because even the slightest buff could take it over the edge. outside of that, i have a successful warm-up/kill clip roll that's pretty neat, and i'm gonna grab one with destabilizing rounds just because it's the only aoe here and bows really need aoe to compete with other primaries in pve
In their TWID they mentioned the reason for the buff was because it wasn't the most dominant because Lightweights apparently are. Not sure why either as I also prefer Precision but their reasoning is that via their statistics, not many people use Precision bows apparently.
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 i'd love to see those statistics because that seems odd to me. as far as i'm aware it's a rare situation for a lightweight frame to be better than a precision frame. maybe i'm just out of tune with the general population of the game?
@@TheDeerInTheHeadligh It's because after the HP update and bow nerfs, both Lightweights and Precisions required two headshots to down a target whereas before, Precisions only required one headshot plus a body shot. With the buff to Precisions, they should be able to 1 Head 1 Body again which will likely put them back on top.
I am hunting a 4/4 drawtime godroll of elastic string, archer's tempo and gambit, and draw time masterwork, not successful warmup because it is on kill, not hit
its kinda cool but Elsies rifle just does everything better. I'm keeping one just in case they have an artifact with bows and void on it but beyond that its not that great.
Bows are just shit in general, it’s rare when I see people carrying around a god roll how despite its archetype because every other option in the game is just much better. There is like one bow worth using in endgame
The 3 second cool down on destabilizing is a travesty. Kill clip is the pick. But overall this bow is mid. Another failure by Bungie. Not surprised anymore
Personally, I've been using the bow with Archer's Tempo + Precision Instrument with a Gyrfalcon build and its really good. I do have an Archer's Tempo + Kill Clip roll, but it's not really clicking with me unlike how Precision Instrument is clicking with me.
Bows should either have been all precision or all lightweight. The kind of weapon that bows are do not lend themselves well to the "fire faster and less accurately for reduced damage" paradigm that the rest of the game adheres to. You can tell that they wanted Lightweights to be mid-close range, hip-fire combat centric and Destiny just doesn't let that sort of thing work unless it's something crazy like Last Word. With the increase in HP making Disruption Break meaningless on these things, they basically lost the only reason for running it unless you're really wanting that 20 virtual Mobility.
Two seasons ago you actually had to search for a weapon with Destabilizing Rounds and Repulsor Brace together but now it just feels like a default combo for void guns and a default hunt
I'm not gonna change your preferences but I'm PvE lightweight bows are objectively better than precision frames. Faster TTK and often better traits (a lot of damage traits and utility traits). Bungie also just buffed precisions because in the current PvP sandbox most people were using lightweights. Just some neutral info
Bows will never be meta. Why use a bow that takes a full second to draw, fire, reload, draw and shoot gain when I can use any other primary and get multiple shots off faster. Not enough damage against majors, one shots minors like any other primary. U get destabilizing rounds but so does other HC scouts or pulses. And that remains true for incandescent and voltshot. Then in pvp 100% crit shot requirment and over a 1 second ttk. Even with a max draw speed and perks the best bows only reach a 0.9 ttk. Which requires a hip fire crit or a kill already. Then u lose damage if held to long and becomes less accurate, followed by a forced shot. Bows were a cool idea but the need a complete rework to compete for the space that scouts and pulses occupy. Right now only Bows worth anything are Le monarch and trinity. And the is exclusively pve.
Couple cool things on it to mess with. Thoughts on it?
I got good rolls of both successful warm up/gambit and repulsor/destabilizing. Personally never been a huge fan of repulsor, feel like a successful warm up/destab is the way to go. Successful warm up/gambit is fun, but suffers in both ad clear and single target damage. It's cool and fun, but feels far from optimal
I'm looking for an hip fire gambit with accuracy. I plan to outhynra Hynra
Fel Taradiddle with Archer's Tempo + Successful Warm-up is the better kinetic lightweight option. For both PvE and PvP
@@UsernameXOXO bold statement, absolutely go for it.
@@CoolGuyGames shoulda had dragonfly in the left
“if your gonna go for it”. Bro the thing has like a 200% drop rate. The bow “goes for” us, unfortunately.
I think I've gotten every roll already, I want the handcannon to drop more I've only gotten 3 lol
This isn’t even cap. Bro 10000% speaking facts rn
U r saying this but i still don't have my destabilizing repulsor roll. Rng is ridiculous
Missed opportunity for this thing to have dragonfly destabilizing
Missed opportunity for this to be a strand lightweight. We got a craftable lightweight void bow last season
Coming soon to a dungeon near you
I don't think that would work, unfortunately. Much like running dragonfly with headstone on the pale heart hand cannon, the dragonfly would likely proc first, unless tuned to do otherwise
I will say even for PvE Kill Clip is a standout at least especially since only other Bow with it currently is Whistler's Whim from Trials, which also has arguably worse pairing perks in the left column in comparison with Cornered really being the only PvE option.
Similar to Volt Shot (Though not nearly as flashy) since you're reloading after every shot it basically means you're going to have near constant uptime on that 25% damage buff, and then since you're kill chaining a bunch anyway you may as well go Successful Warmup and have a fast Drawtime too. (Only downside is you have to get that first kill, which can be a problem sometimes once you get into higher level content.)
The pronunciation of "Non-Denouement"... salute for catching the French aspect of the word
Archer Gambit + Successful Windup is so fast I can't even control it.
Doesn't it hit the drawtime cap or something?
And then Dream Work
@@Jaschrome it does I would rather go hipfire grip
It does hit the cap with the trait plus this combo. @@Jaschrome
@@Jaschromethey're multipliers, not stat bumps. cap doesn't apply
FYI CoolGuy you might want to add the fact that it’s a lightweight bow that for some reason caps at 540 draw time (at least visually) even though it’s a lightweight which should cap at 500 draw time. Hopefully that helps thank you for all the weapon reviews they are always helpful.
With archers gambit and successful warmup it drops it down to like 240 or something. Cross did a review on it
@@Luketheduke12 I’m referring to the base draw time before the weapons perks. That kinda stuff matters for the beginning of a pvp engagement.
Pretty sure it's a visual glitch. The void craftable lightweight bow (can't remember name) has the same glitch, as did Arsenic Bite before it got fixed.
Since it was confirmed as a visual glitch on Arsenic Bite, I'm assuming the same applies here.
Archers Gambit can activate from ads if you let go of aim just before release. It’s tricky, the timing is literally milliseconds.
I don’t have the roll on this yet, but I’ve been using archers tempo gambit on pre Astanax for insanely fast kills because that second shot come so fast they barely have time to react. You’ll be able to do it possibly faster on Fortnite Star if you can get a good roll for draw time and accuracy, but lightweight accuracy right now isn’t that good, and precisions can get a precision and a body I believe depending on resilience checks, so the second shot needn’t necessarily hit the head.
Finally! Someone prominent mentioning how bad lightweight bows perform from the hip on controller. It’s absolutely atrocious, feels like an oversight.
If this bow was a precision it would replace my under your skin. But it being a lightweight kills it for me. Imperial needle. Bad. Letho. Nope. Under Your skin is amazing and it's 100% because its a precision. Pre astryanax is a precision, it's great. Same for strident whistle and Non-Denouement. Such a shame
Which is funny because I feel the same way but according to Bungie and the recent BUFF to Precision bow damage showed that more people use Lightweights I guess ultimately due to them doing more DPS?
Personally I've always liked Precision because I've liked each shot to be impactful. Although Fortunate Star is kind of growing on me (not sure why) but I think once I've figured out the roll I want and grab any unique combos it may sit in the vault, at least until Destabilizing Rounds get's some form of a buff.
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4that was talking about in pvp, more people in pvp use lightweights than precision and the damage buff for precision is only in the pvp sandbox
Lightweights actually have the best sustained dps but it's never gonna feel good to use a bow unless it's one shotting
Will never use a bow if it's insanely off hitting minimum draw time. That's the only reason for pre astryanax to exist.
Lethophobia is actually dope cause of attrition orbs. Try it out
most players dont care about accuracy and want the lowest draw time but accuracy is very important, its the difference between miss shot or not many times. so what's the point to have the best draw time if you miss.
Dont oversee accuracy.
hip fire shot arent bad in close range but kinda suck mid to long distance (suck less with enough accuracy.)
Btw i have a trial bow with killclip and it aint bad, legendary bow damage suck in high end content so any dmg buff help + you always reload so it's a no brain buff
I think I'm the only lightweight bow frame enjoyer in the world. They feel good to me, I like to hip fire them. Complete aside, words like "volatile" are an interesting indication of where you first encountered the word. Coolguy pronounces it like a regular american, kinda like "volatohl." I think I must have read the word before I ever heard it cause I've always pronounced it the way the brits do despite also growing up in america. dialects are cool
I got the minimum draw time arrow + string + masterwork with successful warm-up and archers gambit, but I seriously doubt that the game actually lets all of those traits combine at their full strength
Sadly there's a cap. Azectross has a bit more detailed frame by frame but there's an eventual cap even with the scalars.
Wish it didn't cap as that would make this thing unique for fastest Bow in the game. But it does cap. I'd just go for kill clip plus warm up. Descent dmg boost on red bar clear. But save a capped speed bow in case this frame gets buffed in the future 😉
I was having a lot of fun with repulsor and gambit on a gyrfalcon's setup. really annoying that you have to do something to break invis before you can get the volatile proc though - drawing the bow does not break invis.
I hate how weighted the drop rates are to the bow. Multiple times all 5/6 of my weapon drops have been bows. There is nothing in that perk pool I will be sad to miss, while the shotgun and rocket launcher do
I have 180 class items in vault, no room for anything that can't replace something else.
Thanks for gettin nerdy with it buddy (and thanks for gettin ranty with it the other day)...👊
There is always a chance that Bungie will give this frame a buff, and I enjoy how it feels to shoot, so I'm going to get a decent roll but not farm for a 5/5
Can't wait for the Something New and Compass Rose review. Crazy how they went from mid to legitimate contenders
Nobody (the majority) uses 120's in PvE or PvP.
I wouldn't dream of bringing a 120 into pve but in pvp 120s are my weapon of choice
@LakerTriangle igneous hammer : am I joke to you?
@@regen6097 you get that one for PvP - had to check Trials weapon charts and it sits at 2% of kills.
The most optimal stat spread is Polymer with a Draw Time MW. That’s 5 more Accuracy than an Elastic + Accuracy MW. And boy, do Lightweight frames need Accuracy.
Thanks. I’ve got a couple of those rolls you mentioned. Going to give them a try. Been mass deleting them as they are being spam dropped in the bash
Successful warmup/kill clip dropped for me and I love it.
Waiting to hear about immenence. Only non-kinetic kinetic slot with firefly is interesting
Kill clip has caught my attention on this bow. If bow is in the artifact next episode I might use it
I’m personally going for a roll with Repulsor brace and Archers gambit, on void or prism warlock I just chuck grenades, spread volatile with the bow, and shoot it super fast cause of AG, which leads to more grenades
Enlightened Action / Kill Clip feels pretty good if you have the 540 string
Thanks for the review man, I’ll watch your content til the wheels fall off
I have a kill clip / air trigger, and I like air trigger on hand cannons, but I wonder if that 'target acquisition decrease' will really impact bows. What do you think of air trigger on this?
How many weeks of solstice we got? I haven’t been able to do much farming cuz I been playing the 2XKO alpha test which is only a week
Ive seen like 100 of these without getting Repulsor Brace and Destablizing rounds, please Bungie give me the one thing i want this for
Destabilizing Rounds still feels absolutely awful.
A better lightweight kinetic bow (craftable too) is Fel Taradiddle. If you're going for draw time, you can combine Archer's Tempo AND Successful Warm-up. Usable in PvP and PvE
i finally see the bots before they all get removed down here
One round I got 6 bows!!!!! 😒 I’m gunning for the shotgun and launcher first then hand cannon. I have plenty of bows already.
I will go for an Repulsor Brace/Archer's Gambit roll for my Gyrfalcon hunter.
When I saw "once per reload" on the trait, I got whiplash and thought I was playing yugioh all of a sudden
I genuinely wonder what the design philosophy for lightweight bows was- I feel I remember them stating they were meant to be the fast-aggressive bow type? I'm not sure- I would like to know what they could do to make lightweight bows better in a way for the players where they won't step on the toes of the precision frame
I was thinking, successful warm up and Golden tricorn would make a pretty decent combo for a void build using volatile rounds. 50% damage increase and faster fire rate would be some healthy DPS.
I saved one for my gyrfalcon hunter. On paper it sounds decent.
I love putting stuff in my vault that I’ll never use
Got the same roll that my Lethophobia (repulsor+goldentri) has to drop the first time.. so far I've gotten enlightened+goldentri... I want repulsor+killclip....
Yeah repulsor + KC for me plz
I like Repuslor/Kill for Gyrfalcons Hunter
I'm a big precision bow fan. I dont like lightweights at all. I'm still not totally sold on Tyranny of Heaven, despite its abikity to make entire rooms explode. I just plain don't like them, and I think it comes down to feel. The damage, or lack thereof, is also a factor.
But if this was a precision with the void wombo? Or dragonfly/destabilizing? Oh maaaaaan, I'm there! Such a good combo on Word of Crota
Hipfire + Archer's Gambit for PvP
I’m gonna get a Destabilizing/Repulser roll just in case they get rid of the cooldown for destabilizing
I grabbed a few rolls and vaulted them, but having the raid bow crafted just makes this thing feel so weak in comparison
Polymer fiberglass archers opening... Draw/reload/accuracy either MW
A bow is extremely fast TTk.
How?
Well you already have it drawn B4 u engage, now first shot is instant, draw time is your second shot. This is the kill shot, lightweight literally makes peak shooting easier.
If you think of it as your first is instant, it cuts your TTk to .54 for first and possibly faster on your second given you have a second between kills.
Watching this video has made me realize this bow was the Unfortunate Star of the review and event.
I’ll stick with Monarque or Under Your Skin if I want a void bow. Until they get rid of the cooldown on destab, I’d rather use something else.
Sounds like there are better choices... Thanks.
I mean as far as void bows go it's great, but it's still a bow so it's gonna be niche unless Bungie decides to juice them to be budget special weapons in PvE
i got archers tempo archers gambit on it which was fun for about 2 shots
Cool! Cool-cool-cool!
Anyway ... sidebar.
I need your help and it could be a future video (wink-wink)
I'm having fun playing prismatic Hunter with Bombadiers, but... as damage goes for the ba-bomb, only solar does, and i hate Golden Gun (no other solar Super).
Any recommandations, build ? Have fun !
The drop rates are obviously weighed and it’s kind of annoying. I’m still grinding no matter what, but like cmon lol
I have one with kill clip and repulsor brace. Probably not going to be amazing but I'm hoping it'll be good with my gyrfalcons hunter.
Are any lightweight bows good?
i love bows, but for PvE i feel like theres always a better exotic alternative
For pvp i always use legendaries, bc monarque or wish are a bit too cringe to use against other players
they just buffed precisions in pvp which were already the dominant bow archetype there. with that in mind, i'm going to keep one disruption break roll because even the slightest buff could take it over the edge. outside of that, i have a successful warm-up/kill clip roll that's pretty neat, and i'm gonna grab one with destabilizing rounds just because it's the only aoe here and bows really need aoe to compete with other primaries in pve
In their TWID they mentioned the reason for the buff was because it wasn't the most dominant because Lightweights apparently are. Not sure why either as I also prefer Precision but their reasoning is that via their statistics, not many people use Precision bows apparently.
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 i'd love to see those statistics because that seems odd to me. as far as i'm aware it's a rare situation for a lightweight frame to be better than a precision frame. maybe i'm just out of tune with the general population of the game?
@@TheDeerInTheHeadligh It's because after the HP update and bow nerfs, both Lightweights and Precisions required two headshots to down a target whereas before, Precisions only required one headshot plus a body shot. With the buff to Precisions, they should be able to 1 Head 1 Body again which will likely put them back on top.
Im just here for demo frenzy hand cannon. I wish the bow werent weighted as hard as it is, but its whatever
Guys… don’t deal with lightweights. Lightweights are fantastic. Just understand them and they will work
The new Edge Transit. 🎉
And it's forsaken version 😅
The bots are crazy on this one.
Lightweights feel bad. Not enough advantage, mechanics and stat wise, to offset that weak damage.
I really eant to like this bow but my Tripwire Canary and Fel Taradiddle just FEEL better.
Those PvP shots where you are centered on the head.. just a skill issue..
For real tho, I feel your pain.
Very informative video, thanks 🙏
It looks cool, thats about all its got going for it :P
I am hunting a 4/4 drawtime godroll of elastic string, archer's tempo and gambit, and draw time masterwork, not successful warmup because it is on kill, not hit
Good review.
This is a fine bow for a brand new player, or the handful of Lightweight Bow enthusiasts out there. Otherwise? Not worth it.
Everyday we stray from fan preferences bungie doesn’t want to promote other weapons slowly by the day
its kinda cool but Elsies rifle just does everything better. I'm keeping one just in case they have an artifact with bows and void on it but beyond that its not that great.
IT AINT ME
IT AINT MEEE
The frame could get a buff and I don't see anything wrong with Lightweights as they r for PVE. Shrug
Repulsee and tricorn. Play hunter and use gyrfalcons. There you go.
it sad because i want Hand cannon but majority of my drop is this bow.
No mention that FS is the first bow to have tempo/warmup + kill clip? Shame
Imo pve it's good, pvp the craftable "under your skin" bow is just better
Why does it look like two different bows duck taped to each other?
Because Bungie doesn't know what a bow looks like or how one works.
Bungie nerfed the accuracy of lightweights so they are pretty useless now, expecially in PvP, but also PvE zt range.
I know I'm weird, but I just don't like using Bows in any game. Meta or not, the draw is just unnatural for me.
Bows are just shit in general, it’s rare when I see people carrying around a god roll how despite its archetype because every other option in the game is just much better. There is like one bow worth using in endgame
Am i the only one that thinks we should not have multiple types of bows?
We should just have one.
Air trigger and kill clip. Give it a try.
Nah, hand cannon and maybe the shotgun.
all those failed ball throw attempts 😂😂
The 3 second cool down on destabilizing is a travesty. Kill clip is the pick. But overall this bow is mid. Another failure by Bungie. Not surprised anymore
It is definately another bow in the game Destiny
Guy, you are so Cool
Personally, I've been using the bow with Archer's Tempo + Precision Instrument with a Gyrfalcon build and its really good. I do have an Archer's Tempo + Kill Clip roll, but it's not really clicking with me unlike how Precision Instrument is clicking with me.
Bows should either have been all precision or all lightweight. The kind of weapon that bows are do not lend themselves well to the "fire faster and less accurately for reduced damage" paradigm that the rest of the game adheres to. You can tell that they wanted Lightweights to be mid-close range, hip-fire combat centric and Destiny just doesn't let that sort of thing work unless it's something crazy like Last Word.
With the increase in HP making Disruption Break meaningless on these things, they basically lost the only reason for running it unless you're really wanting that 20 virtual Mobility.
Whats going on with these comments?
Bow shotgun and handcannon, I can’t fucking get the rocket launcher :((
I wish it was actually HIDDEN
Two seasons ago you actually had to search for a weapon with Destabilizing Rounds and Repulsor Brace together but now it just feels like a default combo for void guns and a default hunt
I'm not gonna change your preferences but I'm PvE lightweight bows are objectively better than precision frames.
Faster TTK and often better traits (a lot of damage traits and utility traits).
Bungie also just buffed precisions because in the current PvP sandbox most people were using lightweights.
Just some neutral info
Video under 10 minutes? There’s not much to say, must be another let down
Bows will never be meta. Why use a bow that takes a full second to draw, fire, reload, draw and shoot gain when I can use any other primary and get multiple shots off faster. Not enough damage against majors, one shots minors like any other primary. U get destabilizing rounds but so does other HC scouts or pulses. And that remains true for incandescent and voltshot. Then in pvp 100% crit shot requirment and over a 1 second ttk. Even with a max draw speed and perks the best bows only reach a 0.9 ttk. Which requires a hip fire crit or a kill already. Then u lose damage if held to long and becomes less accurate, followed by a forced shot. Bows were a cool idea but the need a complete rework to compete for the space that scouts and pulses occupy. Right now only Bows worth anything are Le monarch and trinity. And the is exclusively pve.
CG sounds board...
As a former Bow Main it hurts how hard they nerfed bows... it pretty much eliminated them as a PvP pick altogether.
This is the stupidest ugliest bow in the game
That bow is too ugly to use
Atp just give everyone the weapons. The game is over. Why am I still raiding and grinding?