I love how you make it really obvious (isolate) which frequency range you're affecting, because it's really hard for some of us untrained in mixing to actually know what to listen to. Up until now, I thought I simply lack the talent and that there's little chance I could ever learn it. So, thank you.
Im not sure if there actually is something called "talent". I think "interest" is what leads to practice what leads to skill. No one is a born talent in music.
@@jeanjacquesrousseau1955 True. I sorta thought it's like if you're tone deaf - you can learn to sing or perform, but you'll have a much harder time than someone with a good relative or even absolute pitch... Because with mixing I really thought I was the equivalent of tone deaf.
@@DarqIce There is no such thing as "tone deafness" unless maybe with some true mental disabilites. Otherwise you would not be able to recognize your door bell, ringtone, alarm clock... A relative pitch is 100% a learned skill by practice. I actually learned it while studying musicology and it took a good amount of practice because I was freaking bad in the beginning haha. But it is 100% learnable with enough effort. Look at the software "earmaster" for example if you are interested in developing a good relative pitch. It helped me a lot to learn it for the exam haha. An absolute pitch cant be learned as adult. You can learn it as a child in the right environment. But it is not a big advantage to have an absolute pitch compared to a good relative pitch for practical music since music is about the relation between the tones and not about the absolute tones. :D
@@DarqIce Nice songs on your profile by the way. The soundquality sucks a bit to be honest not too bad but it can be better for sure most likely with some proper mixing and mastering. But the actual songwriting and structure is way better than expected. I would dance to concrete for sure in a club haha and Im a picky dude !
@@jeanjacquesrousseau1955 Thanks, bro. I've been trying to provide you with links to my other tracks, but the comments keep getting deleted. :) Anyway look me up on the "cloud of sound" :D And I did get hold of a pro mastering guy, so things will get better - as they must if you're serious about anything.
Thanks for doing videos like this, that take on advanced production topics. We need it! Especially because your source material is techno, rather than rock.
The sound you are altering at 9- 10:00 is the best sound by far so much I would ditch the rest of the track and really rock that noise. Including the bass at 11 that does the same pattern. Not because anything is bad, but because that sound was standout good.
That is not weird. If left and right channel have same identical audio it means it will be mono. This is what makes MONO, Mono in stereo systems haha. So when you have 3 different signals, they will have identical harmonic information in some frequencies so these are also going to be heard in mono way, thats why you still hear it.
I would have expected you to use a low-shelf for the kickdrum, instead of a high-pass, to preserve the phase as much as possible. You did use a high-shelf for the perc + hihats to tame that a little. Good video tho!
Looks like you've overlooked that I'm using a linear phase EQ here ;-) This is especially important when using mid-side processing. But even without that, I see these types of comments pop up a lot (not only on my channel) in regards to high-pass vs. low-shelf and the implications on the phase. I will actually do a video about that since there's a lot of confusion around those topics. Lots of UA-cam tutorials these days talk about low-shelf being "better" than high-pass because of the less intrusive phase-consequences. While that's true (to an extent at least), it doesn't paint the full picture. Both tools exist for a reason and both tools should and can be used. You just have to understand when the downsides of one outweigh the upsides and then make an educated decision. It's not as simple as it seems. I've spoken about this with a friend and colleague (Conor Dalton from Glowcast Mastering) the other week. He noticed the same thing and so it's important to go a level deeper.
@@pickyourselfofficial Thanks for the in depth reply, no I didn't overlook you changed to linear mode in Kirchhoff EQ. I wonder what would happen when you don't change to linear mode and use the low shelf, wouldn't that bypass the pre-ringing issue and keep the phase preserved? Please do that video indeed.
@@xgmodesince the goal was to only remove the massive rumble on the sides, it would not have been as effective, unfortunately. This here was a pretty good example of when a highpass makes sense. But I’ll go into this subject in depth on a separate video, promised!
@@pickyourselfofficial I would also love to see a video on the topic of low-shelf being "better" than high-pass because of the less intrusive phase-consequences. My confusion knows no bounds.
Never been a fan of M/S processing because it literally tears the fabric of the sounds, losing focus and solidity in the process. To be used extremely sparingly if ever....
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I love how you make it really obvious (isolate) which frequency range you're affecting, because it's really hard for some of us untrained in mixing to actually know what to listen to. Up until now, I thought I simply lack the talent and that there's little chance I could ever learn it. So, thank you.
Im not sure if there actually is something called "talent". I think "interest" is what leads to practice what leads to skill.
No one is a born talent in music.
@@jeanjacquesrousseau1955 True. I sorta thought it's like if you're tone deaf - you can learn to sing or perform, but you'll have a much harder time than someone with a good relative or even absolute pitch... Because with mixing I really thought I was the equivalent of tone deaf.
@@DarqIce There is no such thing as "tone deafness" unless maybe with some true mental disabilites. Otherwise you would not be able to recognize your door bell, ringtone, alarm clock...
A relative pitch is 100% a learned skill by practice. I actually learned it while studying musicology and it took a good amount of practice because I was freaking bad in the beginning haha. But it is 100% learnable with enough effort. Look at the software "earmaster" for example if you are interested in developing a good relative pitch. It helped me a lot to learn it for the exam haha.
An absolute pitch cant be learned as adult. You can learn it as a child in the right environment. But it is not a big advantage to have an absolute pitch compared to a good relative pitch for practical music since music is about the relation between the tones and not about the absolute tones. :D
@@DarqIce Nice songs on your profile by the way. The soundquality sucks a bit to be honest not too bad but it can be better for sure most likely with some proper mixing and mastering.
But the actual songwriting and structure is way better than expected.
I would dance to concrete for sure in a club haha and Im a picky dude !
@@jeanjacquesrousseau1955 Thanks, bro. I've been trying to provide you with links to my other tracks, but the comments keep getting deleted. :) Anyway look me up on the "cloud of sound" :D
And I did get hold of a pro mastering guy, so things will get better - as they must if you're serious about anything.
Thanks for doing videos like this, that take on advanced production topics. We need it! Especially because your source material is techno, rather than rock.
The sound you are altering at 9- 10:00 is the best sound by far so much I would ditch the rest of the track and really rock that noise. Including the bass at 11 that does the same pattern.
Not because anything is bad, but because that sound was standout good.
Great video!
Awesome brother 🔥
Thanks mate!
Thanks for that! Do you know by any chance if EQ8 when in m/s mode has linear phase?
If you mean EQ Eight, the stock Ableton plugin, it doesn't have a linear phase feature unfortunately
hey phil, wär super wenn du etwas über panning bringen kannst, vor allem in ableton (stereo panning)
thanks
That is not weird.
If left and right channel have same identical audio it means it will be mono. This is what makes MONO, Mono in stereo systems haha.
So when you have 3 different signals, they will have identical harmonic information in some frequencies so these are also going to be heard in mono way, thats why you still hear it.
Exactly
Thanks. Best/Mathias
When you release this track ? ;P
Cool tune :)
You had me at hello but lost me at black box. Great example showing sum and deference.
I would have expected you to use a low-shelf for the kickdrum, instead of a high-pass, to preserve the phase as much as possible. You did use a high-shelf for the perc + hihats to tame that a little. Good video tho!
Looks like you've overlooked that I'm using a linear phase EQ here ;-) This is especially important when using mid-side processing. But even without that, I see these types of comments pop up a lot (not only on my channel) in regards to high-pass vs. low-shelf and the implications on the phase. I will actually do a video about that since there's a lot of confusion around those topics. Lots of UA-cam tutorials these days talk about low-shelf being "better" than high-pass because of the less intrusive phase-consequences. While that's true (to an extent at least), it doesn't paint the full picture. Both tools exist for a reason and both tools should and can be used. You just have to understand when the downsides of one outweigh the upsides and then make an educated decision. It's not as simple as it seems. I've spoken about this with a friend and colleague (Conor Dalton from Glowcast Mastering) the other week. He noticed the same thing and so it's important to go a level deeper.
@@pickyourselfofficial Thanks for the in depth reply, no I didn't overlook you changed to linear mode in Kirchhoff EQ. I wonder what would happen when you don't change to linear mode and use the low shelf, wouldn't that bypass the pre-ringing issue and keep the phase preserved?
Please do that video indeed.
@@pickyourselfofficial yeah man please make a video!
@@xgmodesince the goal was to only remove the massive rumble on the sides, it would not have been as effective, unfortunately. This here was a pretty good example of when a highpass makes sense. But I’ll go into this subject in depth on a separate video, promised!
@@pickyourselfofficial I would also love to see a video on the topic of low-shelf being "better" than high-pass because of the less intrusive phase-consequences. My confusion knows no bounds.
Nice channel good information but use a de-esser on your voice please 🙂
Djdjfkfkf 😅, it is very hsrd for a native German to differentiate s and z
Never been a fan of M/S processing because it literally tears the fabric of the sounds, losing focus and solidity in the process. To be used extremely sparingly if ever....