9:17 First off she sounds very stupid if we weren’t conscious how is she consciously making her own decisions the fact that God is letting her make her own decisions is proof of her own consciousness because he’s not saying that she needs to believe in him especially if he exists because they know he exists but they just don’t believe in the teachings of him
I know this may sound like ad hominem, but I promise it’s just an observation- the religious people have a healthier quality about them. Skin tone, the look in their eyes, a certain peaceful demeanor… it’s interesting.
Nope you're absolutely right. The physiognomy is off the charts. And it's directly correlative with their beliefs and the lack of self-control and discipline that stems from them. It's not ad hominem at all
@@CAIN_STAR Christianity calls one to discipline. Discipline in all facets of life, including hygiene, physical form etc. Satanism (as they describe it,) gives you no higher standard that forces you to shape up except your own personal morality and generally "being nice." What you truly believe deep down about discipline and self-control manifests outwardly. If your core belief system believes for example, that sexual purity is unimportant, what do you think an adherent of that belief system will look like and act like? It's not rocket science
I honestly have noticed this in the general culture. It’s sad I can tell a lot about you and your beliefs by your hairstyle/color and fashion sense. If I see plugs, nose rings, upside-down cross tattoos, pink/purple/teal/silver/etc hair, and the like, I can probably guess close to the way you think, vote and desire. In reality, usually people with social anxiety and trouble with fitting in turn to these identities as a way of rebelling against the status quo, because they feel the status quo is to blame for them feeling insecure. I also agree with the person above. Secular culture prides itself on complete liberation, freedom to be free, to unshackle all bonds of regulation, moderation and self-restraint. The result is a culture that has no concept of humility.
Wait, how can a satanist actually deny those religions that define Satan? Seems a ridiculous endeavour to me. When I hear arguments from that side, they often come off like a spoiled brat arguing with parents. I really can’t take them seriously.
so, at least by the account of one satanist I knew(who recently reconciled back to god, btw) described it as it's not that he didn't believe in god, it's that he didn't believe he is a benevolent god.
I think the pastor wasn’t bad, but they did talk over him multiple times. What’s funny is that jubilees CEO says he is Christian and keeps Christ in his marriage.
Ngl everytime i hear a satanist or an atheist talking about God i see a lot of hurt in them. Like i think they literally have some deep pain and issues and they blame God for everything.
@@AndreaVirago What crazy to me tho is if they blame GOD for anything then that tells u that he exist because how can u blame anyone for anything who doesn't exist?
I think it’s really unfair of everyone in this comment section to criticize him about being biased. He never set out to prove that these people were wrong he was just sharing his Christian opinion and perspective on the video.
He isn't biased though. God is truth, there is no justification needed. Truth as a concept only exists because God. Every time we judge something as true, we only do so based on first comparing the thing in question to God.
In fairness to him he never pretends to be unbiased, more objectively speaking he's out to push his philosophy rather than on the search for some truth. You can hardly blame him for not considering all sides of a question if he says over and over that they're not worth considering
I would have agreed until he said "He lost a weekend" referring to the death of Christ, it became clear he didn't even want to hear other people's perspectives to understand. Like, if a Christian walked in and said to him "You worship a loser" that doesn't sound like explaining their perspective. It comes off as just being rude.
@Don’t come for me unless I send for you 🤷 dude there are places in the world where there is 0 chance meeting other christians and finding churches. Just fly over to indonesia and if you go deep to the forests over there, you will find plenty of people who have never been educated about christianity.
"How is it right to send so many people to hell. What kind of God would do that?" A just and holy God. A God who consistently pursued you throughout your life, but you were more interested in what the world had to offer than what God had to offer. You have free will. If you choose to ignore a life long pursuit of God, how is it wrong that He will in turn send you to a place that has nothing to do with Him? You didn't want anything to do with Him during your life on earth, therefore, instead of an eternity of knowing Him and loving Him, you get to spend an eternity with the things that you pursued in life. You get to be forever surrounded by the things that you chased after so desperately in your life, only those things appear as they really are in hell... God is always there, reaching His hand out to you, but if He literally physically showed you that He exists then there would be no need for faith because you would have already seen Him. This religion takes faith. He is there even now... Its never too late to see what God truly has to offer. He has so much more to offer than anything on this earth ever could... Give Him a chance, and it will be a chance that you won't regret.
Bro lmfao, ur suggesting that everything else that doesn't have anything to do with ur God warrants a trip to hell for eternity lmao. What if the "things that we're pursuing while on earth" is within the same reason u pursue ur God? Like, in ur religion i, for instance, a satanist person, who doesn't necessarily believe in satan, but only identify as such, to rebel against the wrong teachings of the bible, but still lives by the moral and ethical standards set by the same religion, would go to hell after i died. I know its a sin in ur book to not believe in ur God, but is it really enough of a sin to warrant a person an eternity in hell? Like wjat kind of God is that? I would say im a good person, morally better than most Christians i came to know, but still im going to hell? Come on. Anf dont u say "ur not going to hell, god is merciful" or some shit like that, because the bible is infallible and everything written on it is flawless and without error, and with that fact, in this context, i am certainly going to hell. Now that isn't a God worth worshipping
@@royallan You may be a good person, and I wouldn't at all disagree that you may be living better than most Christians, but if you reject God, the one who created you, then I don't see why it's such a horrible thing for you to not end up with Him when you die? If you live your life selfishly avoiding God then why is it so hard to believe that He wouldn't want that kind of a person in His holy kingdom. You have free will. It's entirely up to you whether you come to Him or not. I would say that that's a very fair and just law. Would you rather Him be a God that forces his will upon you and doesn't give you the opportunity to come to him by your own will? I certainly wouldn't... I would also like to point out that you have free will to sin or not to sin and you do not go to hell for commitment sin. You go to hell if you reject God and do not repent for your sins. It's not like I don't ever screw up. I'm a human being. We all make mistakes. But it is so freeing to know that no matter what I do, God still loves me... and I'm sorry that the Christians that you have been around haven't treated you with respect. I'm sure they made you feel like they were better than you, but you and I both know that no one is better than anyone. We are all sinners and we are all equal.
@@truthbetold7673 i dont wake up thinking "how could i reject God today?", i wake up thinking how coukd i spend my day as happily as i can. If ur idea of "God pursuing me" are embodied by disrespectful bigoted Christians who goes by their day condemning people to hell unless they convert to Christianity, then maybe ur God isnt doing much of an effective persuasion to try and "save my soul from eternal damnnation"
@@royallan Well, that I'd how most people think throughout a day. Always looking for a fun time, for new experiences... I've said it before, if there are people condemning you to hell who claim to be Christians then you need to understand that those people are not living by the word of God. They are people consumed by anger, and pride. I do not see myself or anyone as being better or worse. We are all sinners, and the only way to make it into heaven is by Jesus sacrificing his life for our transgressions. There is literally nothing that we can do to earn our way into heaven, so the people who you are referring to, which make up like most of Christians today, they are not real Christians. I am truly sorry that you have been treated this way by these people, but just know, we are all human beings, and God is God. We cannot accurately represent Him. He is not just good, He is the definition of goodness, love, and mercy, and I truly hope that you get to see that some day... And again on behalf of all the real Christians I want to sincerely apologize for the actions of these hateful people that you have come into contact with... I wish you well.
@@truthbetold7673 it should go without saying, but thank u for being respectful. I have to admit, for the sake of my own growth, that i do have a prejudice against Christians, or people of any religion as a matter of fact, which clearly clouds my judgements. Ur answers by far are the most logical answer I've heard from a religious stand point. You've earned my respect sir. I still may disagree with ur beliefs, but i definitely understand ur point. Have a great day
@@hippityhoppity6313THERE ARE SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENETS I One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason. II The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions. III One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone. IV The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own. V Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs. VI People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused. VII Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
I honestly couldn’t help but laugh at the satanist guy who had the twisty mustache and the voice and dramatics I just couldn’t help it, it’s like he watched an Anton levy’s video and said “I’m going to be just like him”
"They look to themselves, their subjective moral standards instead of something that's objective and unchanging" AMEN, thats beeeeeen obvious, they want to be gods of themselves and not submit to the GOD of all creation.
Yo this wasn't even fair, 3 sorcerers who are allies with each other vs 3 individuals on their own intelectually? As obviously the Satanists will have much more cohesion and agreement among each other, and bounce off each others statements whereas the other 3 already disagree with each other.
Well not necessarily, you see, satanism is not a solid and explicitly concrete religion because it is relatively new, yes satan "cults" have been around forever, but it wasn't that long ago that it was made a church and religion, so it does not have a very concrete set of rules. They needed to bring in more than one satanist as beliefs within the satanist community are all over the place BECAUSE of it being kinda new and progressive. That is clear when watching the full episode, there are many times where one of the satanist disagrees with another satanist, it would simply be very unfair to put one satanist against three members of well established religions that date back thousands of years in the past.
Not to mention the fact that one member of the satanist religion simply cannot represent the whole community because, as ive said before, it is a very new religion with vague scriptures depicting its morals
@@angelloor.mp3 Your wrong any real satanist knows our rules are clearly defined in the satanic Bible. Created by Anton Lavey, so anything or anyone who dosen't define them selves by these morals are not real Satanists. The man even coined the term satanist.
@@ronnysmith9428 youre speaking of the church of satan, whereas these individuals are part of the satanic temple, they follow seven fundamental tenets. Only stating you should act in compassion and empathy, therefore there is not a concrete set of “teachings” or rules you have to follow, hence its impossible to chose one person to represent modern, progressive satanism (The Satanic Temple)
@@angelloor.mp3 Tst aren't satanists. Your a satanist if you follow Anton lavey teachings and the one man with the groovy mustache is the only real Satanist that was up there. I follow his UA-cam channel I don't know about the other two.
I saw that in the comment section, people are offended why Isaac isn't open-minded. I don't know, maybe because Bible is the only truth and worship Satan is awful? in God we are not lost and we are not walking around thinking that this world is a simulation. these Satanists are too self-centered and it is not right. We have no right to see us almighty and all that stupid "do whatever you want, because just you matter". God gave us a precious gift and we need to obey His commands. No questions needed, period.
Satanists don’t worship satan. Satan is a Christian concept and we’re not Christians. I’m a Luciferian Satanist and I do not worship the devil. People who are too afraid to question the Bible and too self centered to go out and learn about what they don’t understand are ignorant. You judge us constantly, yet is that not something your god condemned? Thou shall not judge or you shall be judged? Where’s your love? Where’s your compassion and understanding? If your god promotes love and saving sinners then how do you think god judges you for your hatred towards those who “need saving”?
@@samaelfallen4068 this is by far my favorite comment and i think you did a great job defending satanists, im personally a non-theistic satanist and dont believe in god or satan as a deity. to us satanism is more about personal sovereignty and independence, most christians are just a little too quick to judge.
We are called to judge righteously. And we are also judged the way we judge others. It isn’t a light matter and neither is sin. Denying truths doesn’t make it a lie, it just means you won’t apply it to your life. But if someone told you the truth, would you call them a liar? I guess it depends on your ego and sense of self. Personally it’s never a judging matter, it’s seeing someone in the exact position I was once in and offering advice. It’s all to our free will. To follow God or the world.
I have a Friend who heard the words:"I will never let you go" while praying. He has a wonderful testimony....my point is if we look around in our communities we see God working. There is always hope
@@Nov_Net I really don't know what's their problem, maybe it's because it's not a Christian channel to begin with and Satan knows they have alot of views so he wouldn't want to risk having a true knowledgeable Christian on their platform that could literally turn alot of their viewers to Christ, so he keeps manipulating them into bringing the one's that are not so sound when it comes to defending Christianity
Yo I also watch living waters too, I always felt like living waters was some underrated channel its a good thing that I see other christian youtubers are talking about that channel
My morality which is not based on Christian faith or any other faith, is based on the understanding that suffering is a universal experience, regardless of race, class or religion. My foundation is established on the truth of that human experience, the major compass being ease of that suffering and acknowledgment of that experience. I know what it means to be human, and understand how agonizing it can be, I don’t need a supreme ruler to establish that morality for me.
Thank you for responding because when I watched this on my own I was just so upset how our Christian buddy wasn't able to answer all their dumb questions
@@silaaron76 they do, although I think a lot of times it has to do with the age range that they usually Target. Although in this instance I definitely would appreciate it if you had gotten not necessarily someone were argumentative but someone who is more adept at debate style speaking and who is not going to let themselves get interrupted or flustered as much. I wouldn't say either side wom or lost. Having constantly to have these debates &in many cases arguments or insults thrown at me, over a lot of questions or stances that are brought up in this.. it doesn't really accomplish anything on our side if the person we're debating is so submissive and not assertive, that it just ends up looking almost like bullying and being unnecessarily aggressive or antagonistic. I mean the Muslim kid I don't know why they chose him he didn't seem to really have a firm grasp on even basic tenants or literature around his belief it's fine if you fully believes in it but he didn't seem to know anything about it on even academic front. The pastor however was like a real life interpretation of Ned Flanders.
Yes but the problem lies they're in the fact that God is meant to be omnipotent he created you he chose your path and you guys are constantly arguing that he works in mysterious ways and nothing happens that he doesn't want it to have it which would imply then that he created you if you were going to do about things too ultimately do bad things he's created the world where the possibility for these things to happen exists along with creating people who have the capacity to do that evil.
@@cheerfulsatanist what you seem to misunderstand is that God chose to allow his creations to choose their own paths by giving them free will and agency. God lets us choose him, but some people dont and create harm. Tell me, would you consider a god who forces people to love and worship him to be more loving than a god who allows others to make that choice?
@@weirdlanguageguy first once again it really sucks when Christians talk to non-christians but especially satanists or weekends or anything that's considered occultish as if we are gullible ignorant stupid children who are incapable of understanding how evil Satan is and how he's using us and overall we just apparently don't comprehend God's love or what he wants from us. It's incredibly pretentious. As if we were silly and got caught up in Satan's lies and he somehow tricked us into joining, and you're just trying to convert us for our own good at a kindness of your heart. And I understand that you think you're helping and it's a part of your religion in general to try to spread what you interpret to be a great thing but it just tends to make people like me uncomfortable and sort of annoyed since it hinges on the fact that I'm apparently weak willed enough to be Hoodwinked by and apparently obviously evil deity. And let's not play around by saying wouldnt I prefer a God who gives me free will so I can make the choice of him freely as opposed to when you take that freewheeling forces me to love him unconditionally. that's basically what we have now. the only difference is instead of removing free will, he's just made a system so that my choices are either love him and conditionally and follow his rules. Whether or not I agree with them, rules that i feel are wrong on a moral, ethical, and fundamental level. That if I should choose not to follow or to live by these rules and guidelines, I will suffer unimaginably for eternity. That is that question managing to force someone but with one or two extra little steps that make it slightly more convoluted but you end up with the same result. Essentially no he gave me free will so I don't have to love him or do what he says unconditionally but he's made the alternative if I disobey him horrific beyond comprehension. That's not a loving relationship, that's a horrifying ultimatum this sort of which if anyone suggested in a normal human relationship the other person would be completely justified in running away and getting a restraining order at all possible. So.. no, the idea of worshippinh a creator who instructs me to adhere to their rules, or they'll make me endure mind blowing pain and suffering for all eternity, is not something that sounds like a caring God in the least, it SOUNDS like a fickle, narcissistic, and arrogant tyrant. And then to add on top of all that, I also have to ensure that my husband and my children follow these commands and guidelines to ensure he doesn't horrifically dismember and torture them also... Well with a straight face actually saying that throughout all of this I need to appreciate him, love him unconditionally come carry him above it anyone else in my heart. That I need to make sure that following his law is above absolutely everything else as a mother as a wife everything I have to put him first. I have to put this creator before anyone and everything else I care about and love him unconditionally... And appreciate everything he gives to me and is done for me? All while he's essentially holding it eternal Doom over top of me and those I love if I don't cooperate to his standard? But I'm somehow supposed to love a creator that is threatening my children for pursuing the lives they want to live life that according to you he planned and created when he created them so he's punishing them for being the way he made them and you want us to love this individual and a trust in his guidance and his plan...? Yeah no I'm definitely not loving or extending any courtesy to someone who threatens my family in such a way at just the thought of them not listening to everyone of his requirements to live a "godly life". That just sounds like a lifespan that is essentially one giant hostage situation where at the end of your life you can look back at it all the things you wish you could have done but didn't because you were following the guidelines of an erratic and frighteningly possessive God who wants you to love him on pain of eternal hellfire l. That sounds super fun and that is all regrettable.
@@cheerfulsatanist bruh God is even more powerful and omnipotent because he actually LETs us pick eternal death or life. Choose one. In hell without him. Or heaven WITH him. It’s not that hard. And it’s funny how people say that “God is arrogant” because he wants us to worship and acknowledge Him. Then they turn around and say “he must not be powerful” because he gives us free will to do whatever the heck we want. I choose to follow him and I’m no longer on the path or addiction and demons
I love learning about different theology but the one thing that sets god of the bible apart from every single religion or world ideology is Jesus and that's why I got saved.
@@vickyandersen8660 haha my phone does it automatically. That makes me laugh because I think the same as I'm commenting or messaging friends. But so lazy!!
My concern with these people calling themselves "satanists" when they're just aggressive atheists is that it gives people the impression that the occult is some PC, alternative lifestyle. Even just dabbling in it is extremely dangerous and it's really concerning how normalized it is in our culture.
I was talking with my nan once, and she said something about why she thinks God is actually cruel and selfish because 'why are we commanded to worship God, to gorify Him, a mother doesn't expect and demand praise from her children with all the hard work she does'. And I had no idea how to respond to that.
This is actually a very interesting thing, that relates to what you can observe in nature - excluding humans, because of cultural beliefs in some places. The thing is, there are mothers in animals we see around us, and in our society, who go by their instinct and don’t expect praise or anything from their children. They were, after all, the ones who decided to have them, take care of them, nourish their talents and interests and teach them how to live. It isn’t child’s decision to be born, hence, they don’t owe anything to their parents, who of whom it’s expected to take care of them properly and adequately, until they can go off on their own. That is the nature. Then why does god gift people free will and then expect so many sacrifices to be made for him? I’m just curious tbh. Btw, I used to be catholic, but stopped once I realized that I never truly believed and simply was in on it, because of the way I was raised.
But God is not man. Our own bible tells us not to lean on our own understanding. God by humans standards of today would in fact be a human being that would be considered arrogant, selfish,etc. But if we go by God being the beginning and end of everything and all things are defined by Him and through Him the question has no standing. Because then the definition of selfish and cruel can only be defined by God and not by man's understanding (which is corrupt in the first place). It's almost like a doctor of medicine being called into question about his surgery practice by a psychiatrist who only has a basic or no understanding of surgery protocols.
I was Christian and now I don’t believe in religion. I feel more at peace with myself and more content. Most Christians who claim to go to church and love Jesus can be worse than the average person who doesn’t believe in god full of judgement and hypocrisy. I believe in people that I have experiences in front of me and not in some fairy god and a few lines from a book that will dictate how to live my life authentically and unapologetically and that’s the beauty of not following religion. That’s the way I look at it. Live and let live !
I can't even take the one guy serious...every word sounds like he is acting... fake. He is looking for himself... he can not connect with others, he deceives. I also find the Christians in this are weak in their answers.
Good work brother ,,keep it up,,,when I see young people like you spreading the gospel it gives me hope that yeah even in this sinful generation we can be light in the darkness and spread the gospel of Christ
It is so weird in general that every religion is not being interrupted when spoken about and when it is about Jesus Christ, it should be shut down right then and there 🤔
I think that the purpose for us as Christians is explained when God created the garden. To be in constant communion with God. And to Glorify God by living out his commands. Our ultimate purpose is. In seeking and following our ultimate purpose we will fall into our small “p” purpose
As a Muslim, I really don't know how I ended up here, maybe my penchant for listening to debates made UA-cam suggest this video to me. Anyhow, I haven't watched the entire video, just the first 5 mins, but that's enough for me to know that the views of the Muslim guy in the video doesn't represent what Islam teaches. In Islam, Hell is a *real* place; just like it is mentioned in the Bible.
I don't really understand on why a lot of people believe on the devil. Haven't these people read or watch parts of the bible and its description of hell? I don't think it'd be fun to be in hell, especially at the fact that you'll experience torture for the rest of your soul life.
@@reejer You keep saying that. Why wouldn’t he discuss religion from the view point of his own faith? That’s literally what everyone went to do in the original in the first place. I don’t know what any of you expected to see on a Christian UA-cam channel.
5:31 God doesn’t send you to hell YOU do. You make your self go to hell with you wrongful and sinful thing if only you put faith in the lord you enter in heaven
@@childofsatan8150 no I don’t think so I think but I forgot about this I’m probably wrong but God create hell for Lucifer and Lucifer created sin correct me if I’m wrong
@@boudicacelticwarrior1481 he knew it was all gonna turn to shit but yet he created it even the bible says god created good and evil and you Christian always say that sin is evil
Technically, if there is a heaven and hell, wouldn’t that be forceful and immoral? To force someone to believe in you or else they spend the rest of eternity suffering, even if they were a good person? For example, let’s take a fire fighter, he is an atheist, and he has spent his life saving families, animals, putting out fires, being a genuinely good person. However, he dies one day while saving someone, but because he simply didn’t believe in god he gets to go to hell to burn for eternity. Doesn’t that sound a little…off to you?
@@wolflover_girls2431 God does not force us to do anything especially having a relationship. It’s our own choice God can give us hits that he is there through the people in our lives or a UA-cam video that will lead us back to him. God is a gentleman and he will just not force his way into your life. You have to ask him into your life when you recognize you’re in need of a savior and can do this without him or his son Jesus Christ. James 4:1-10 say “Where do wars and fights come from among you? Do they not come from your desires for pleasure that war in your members? You lust and do not have. You murder and covet and cannot obtain. You fight and war. Yet you do not have because you do not ask. You ask and do not receive, because you ask amiss, that you may spend it on your pleasures. Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, “The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously”? But He gives more grace. Therefore He says: “God resists the proud, But gives grace to the humble.” Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Lament and mourn and weep! Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up.” This is saying we are sinful we can either be friends with the world or enemies with God. When we submitted to the world we are faced with jealousy, lust, etc. but when we side with God it’s easier to fight all of that (believe me I’ve been there). The enemy can’t dwell in something that is Holy but excepting Christ in it the only step to this, then deliverance which is what that double minded is talking about there. You can either have the mind of Christ or the world but never both and if you do there is a problem. You can have a time for grieving but it will ultimately turn to joy with God and he will lift your spirits. All this is achievable with a relationship like you would have a relationship with your best friend or parents. Hope this helped.
I think it's no coincidence that the subtle, twisted, and accusatory words of these satanists reflect their master well. It makes me sick. The enemy is subtle and deceitful, not always brazen and loud. May God justly condemn those who fully and finally blaspheme His name in utter rejection and hatred
-Satan is not in charge of Hell -Hell isn't Burning right now -Hell fire will have eternal consequences buy will NOT be constantly burning "souls" for eternity, as God said (through Isaiah I think) "The wicked will be NO MORE"!!! -The "soul" isn't eternal. It dies, Jesus said God can kill "body and soul"; Otherwise Satan would have been correct when he said to Eve "You won't surely die"... God is Loving and Just.
How is it that the satanist can just be blatantly disrespectful towards these people's religions. "he gave up a weekend." Yet they demand some moral justice to the world be do not want to give it in return. They want to be accepted but don't except others. To me this social interaction is a good picture of what the real religion is and what is just a pretender
God is supposed to be omnipotent....therefore he knows everything, including who will and will not believe in him So basically all non believers are predetermined for hellfire So much for the notion of free will.
@@jamesjulien1206 no he gives us freewill even though he knows whats going to happen he gives us a chance to change that. Y do u think jesus himself died for our sins he gave us a chance
@@kyleclarke6228 Therefore no real freewill!! If he exactly knows what my actions are going to be, if he decides for me to born into a diffrent religion, he knows how much impact will my culture and my religion is going to have on me. He knows I will never be a Christian from the beginning and yet he will put me in hell. Bravo god! You are the best.
@@andrewjohnson9014 Plenty of people from different religions convert to Christianity each day, while plenty of people grow up in christian households and convert to atheism. You yourself must know what Christianity if you’re watching a Christian youtube channel and chatting in the comments, yet you don’t believe. God plants seeds into our lives in hopes that we will turn away from our sin and follow him. He’s not going to force you, but if you’re able to find this video then you have been given plenty of time and plenty of opportunities.
I have to be completely honest and tell you I've been confused about my "Purpose" in life every since I've been a Christian because it's like so many people are Missionaries in other countries and many people have jobs, etc. I've be so lost in this. I am also Learning disabled so it's so much more frustrating for me to try to understand this and the "Gifts" as well. I mean where do I belong and how do I help others when I don't even know......
No matter what you believe no matter the religion you follow no one is truly sure of all the answers and the only thing we can fall back on is the knowledge that we should do the right thing within reason although even that is subjective by the variables of the situation at hand everyone should be more open minded and understanding but it can be difficult to do so without enough facts and information to fall back on what's right and wrong or what we should be doing in life.
Pray to God and ask him for guidance.. there is power in prayer. Be aware because God may answer blatantly or unexpectedly. That is the beauty of the Almighty!
Laura, it sounds like you're waiting for a special calling from God. Am I right? It can be very frustrating when we see people find theirs, do incredible things and find fulfillment in those things. But our calling isn't always to do something that can be seen by congregations. It's just to follow Jesus, build a relationship with him, and in doing so becoming more like him in whatever we're doing. If you want more responsibility, then work on this first. When we do much with little, more is likely to be given. "And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him." Colossians 3:17
Pray, pray, pray and ask God for revelation. Please read Called to conquer by Derek Prince. It could help. Also look at your passions, the problems you'd like to solve and the things that naturally come to you. They could be good indicators. It also helps to speak to a (careers) counsellor.
God is a state of mind; Find Him, Know HIM, and Follow HIM; With this ongoing daily effort any believer will know the difference and be cautious among those who are satanists, non-believers, demonic beings, etc.
Yep, basically he was referring to the lake of fire at the end of revelation, where death and hades( the grave) are sent and destroyed. He was referring to Gehenna, to refer that is better to lost a part of yourself that causing you to sin, like being the thing that is causing your temptation, than you being destroyed with the trash(sin) for being in sin.
I am a hindu . We actually have something like ten commandments. Known as karma . Living life with good dids ( good dids are not mentioned properly) . I follow 10 commandments. Respect Judaism and Christianity . Problem is hinduism don't give you a exact path hinduism has to much superstition which makes it like unnecessary. Hindu focus on rituals more then meditation and prayer . Also degeneracy is very much prevailed in hinduism as hinduism don't says what good and whats not in a straight cut manner which is important. And I find quran a copypasting and personal customized of Hebrew Bible . I love Christianity and Judaism because it says what god want and not in straight cut manner.
There is a split between Satanists. In the same way there isn't multiple splits in Christianity, "Satanist" is not a one size fits all label. The Church of Satan and the Satanic Temple can be seen like Seventh Day Adventists and Episcopalians.
This episode of Jubilee really bothered my spirit. I don’t like how they gave the young female satanist a heavy metal intro and made it into a whole thing. It says a lot on where Jubilee stands at their core values, while these talks are good, and while the one gentleman running the talk mentioned that Shawn didn’t get a full sentence in. This is how it is most times, and I commend Shawn for his gentle spirit. I just wish he went further, or could go further without being interrupted so vehemently
the heavy metal thing was a joke its just making fun of stereotypes (letting the viewer know its not that serious), and Shawn just let Richard step over his toes, if he is phased by common sense and can't think of anything to say back to him, that's not being gentle, just unprepared for a discussion/debate
11:00 when says that Jesus merely “gave up a weekend” I was struggling to hold my anger. To reduce the suffering and pain of Jesus’s death on the cross to giving up a weekend is incredibly insulting. I sometimes almost breakdown at even the thought that the God of the Heavens and Earth would sacrifice so much for the sinful man that I am. To spit in the faith of someone’s faith like that is terrible. Father forgive them for they don’t know what they are doing.
Guys please can you learn about Satanism before bashing. I actually don't know why ya'll are bashing their religion like it's their RELIGION so stop bashing their beliefs
I really don't care for the guy behind the video. He's completely dismissing anything that the Satanists say on the simple clause that "it's not gods way". I can see how this guy may have never actually thought too deeply into his own faith
The question is where does ultimate good and ultimate Bad come from what is morality what is their morality based on. Because morals without God is chaos because God is Ultimate good.
Satan claims the dominion on earth but our planet is the battle and revelation of who the devil is. After the resurrection Jesus proclaimed his victory to the devil and he is furious now.
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I really dont like richard because of the fact of how he just constantly interrupts and disrespect pastor shawn
9:17 First off she sounds very stupid if we weren’t conscious how is she consciously making her own decisions the fact that God is letting her make her own decisions is proof of her own consciousness because he’s not saying that she needs to believe in him especially if he exists because they know he exists but they just don’t believe in the teachings of him
Was hell created before Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit?
Actually matrix is more about a visual representation of being transgender
I know this may sound like ad hominem, but I promise it’s just an observation- the religious people have a healthier quality about them. Skin tone, the look in their eyes, a certain peaceful demeanor… it’s interesting.
Nope you're absolutely right. The physiognomy is off the charts. And it's directly correlative with their beliefs and the lack of self-control and discipline that stems from them. It's not ad hominem at all
@@maxalaintwo3578 why’s that?
@@CAIN_STAR Christianity calls one to discipline. Discipline in all facets of life, including hygiene, physical form etc. Satanism (as they describe it,) gives you no higher standard that forces you to shape up except your own personal morality and generally "being nice."
What you truly believe deep down about discipline and self-control manifests outwardly. If your core belief system believes for example, that sexual purity is unimportant, what do you think an adherent of that belief system will look like and act like? It's not rocket science
I honestly have noticed this in the general culture. It’s sad I can tell a lot about you and your beliefs by your hairstyle/color and fashion sense. If I see plugs, nose rings, upside-down cross tattoos, pink/purple/teal/silver/etc hair, and the like, I can probably guess close to the way you think, vote and desire.
In reality, usually people with social anxiety and trouble with fitting in turn to these identities as a way of rebelling against the status quo, because they feel the status quo is to blame for them feeling insecure.
I also agree with the person above. Secular culture prides itself on complete liberation, freedom to be free, to unshackle all bonds of regulation, moderation and self-restraint. The result is a culture that has no concept of humility.
I thought I'm the only one who noticed that.
The fact that people are actually defending satanism in this comment section is somehow not shocking to me considering where this world is headed.
I agree. I’m sad the world is crumbling like this, but this is what it has to be
So true ! It's so sad man
It's cuz Satanists are nice and Christians are meeeeeeeeeaaaaniiiiiiies. We Christians aren't nice we don't tell them where they wanna hear
They call themselves atheists but don’t question why witchcraft exists or new age or satanism
@@orangeblossom9279 and a lot the “atheists” practice it without the label 🤦♀️
Wait, how can a satanist actually deny those religions that define Satan? Seems a ridiculous endeavour to me. When I hear arguments from that side, they often come off like a spoiled brat arguing with parents. I really can’t take them seriously.
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so, at least by the account of one satanist I knew(who recently reconciled back to god, btw) described it as it's not that he didn't believe in god, it's that he didn't believe he is a benevolent god.
@@genevieverose1234 ohhhhhhhhhh
I'm pretty sure most satanist would don't believe in Satan, but use satanism as a form of atheist activism. However, I've not watched the video yet.
Satanism is almost entirely atheists who openly acknowledge that atheism logically leads to self worship/humanism. "Do what thou wilt."
Jubilee will never bring, a sound, eloquent, very knowledgeable Christian to round table talks like this, I find their videos really annoying
there was actually one. ua-cam.com/video/_nMMoWwDbbg/v-deo.html&ab_channel=AnchoredNorth
ua-cam.com/video/zEMyG8SYZgE/v-deo.html there are some very eloquent Christians here, who would definitely have soared in this conversation
I think the pastor wasn’t bad, but they did talk over him multiple times. What’s funny is that jubilees CEO says he is Christian and keeps Christ in his marriage.
That's why I only watch them on reacts from creators actually worth supporting
To be fair, he was probably thrown off because he kept getting interrupted.
Ngl everytime i hear a satanist or an atheist talking about God i see a lot of hurt in them. Like i think they literally have some deep pain and issues and they blame God for everything.
U hit the nail on the head,They do have issues with GOD & blame him for everything.
@@cedmiller3883 i truly wish that they come to God one day and repent. God bless them
@@AndreaVirago The fact is that some will & some won't, Unfortunately some will find out the hard way... GOD bless them all.
@@cedmiller3883 amen! But still i pray for them
@@AndreaVirago What crazy to me tho is if they blame GOD for anything then that tells u that he exist because how can u blame anyone for anything who doesn't exist?
I think it’s really unfair of everyone in this comment section to criticize him about being biased. He never set out to prove that these people were wrong he was just sharing his Christian opinion and perspective on the video.
He isn't biased though. God is truth, there is no justification needed. Truth as a concept only exists because God. Every time we judge something as true, we only do so based on first comparing the thing in question to God.
In fairness to him he never pretends to be unbiased, more objectively speaking he's out to push his philosophy rather than on the search for some truth. You can hardly blame him for not considering all sides of a question if he says over and over that they're not worth considering
@@canabiss8297 no I agree with you, but from a worldly perspective he seems “biased”
I would have agreed until he said "He lost a weekend" referring to the death of Christ, it became clear he didn't even want to hear other people's perspectives to understand.
Like, if a Christian walked in and said to him "You worship a loser" that doesn't sound like explaining their perspective. It comes off as just being rude.
God doesn't send you to hell, people were already on their way to hell, but by giving Jesus He gave us a chance.
Say that to other nations America is not alone in the world. Do you know even what year is in North Korea????
@@marindanielionita5670 I live in South-African. 😁
@@marindanielionita5670 in North Korea it is the 111 because the birthday of Kim ill sung is the fist today to them
@Don’t come for me unless I send for you 🤷 dude there are places in the world where there is 0 chance meeting other christians and finding churches. Just fly over to indonesia and if you go deep to the forests over there, you will find plenty of people who have never been educated about christianity.
Lol😂 yeah whatever. 😂
"How is it right to send so many people to hell. What kind of God would do that?"
A just and holy God. A God who consistently pursued you throughout your life, but you were more interested in what the world had to offer than what God had to offer. You have free will. If you choose to ignore a life long pursuit of God, how is it wrong that He will in turn send you to a place that has nothing to do with Him? You didn't want anything to do with Him during your life on earth, therefore, instead of an eternity of knowing Him and loving Him, you get to spend an eternity with the things that you pursued in life. You get to be forever surrounded by the things that you chased after so desperately in your life, only those things appear as they really are in hell... God is always there, reaching His hand out to you, but if He literally physically showed you that He exists then there would be no need for faith because you would have already seen Him. This religion takes faith. He is there even now... Its never too late to see what God truly has to offer. He has so much more to offer than anything on this earth ever could... Give Him a chance, and it will be a chance that you won't regret.
Bro lmfao, ur suggesting that everything else that doesn't have anything to do with ur God warrants a trip to hell for eternity lmao. What if the "things that we're pursuing while on earth" is within the same reason u pursue ur God? Like, in ur religion i, for instance, a satanist person, who doesn't necessarily believe in satan, but only identify as such, to rebel against the wrong teachings of the bible, but still lives by the moral and ethical standards set by the same religion, would go to hell after i died. I know its a sin in ur book to not believe in ur God, but is it really enough of a sin to warrant a person an eternity in hell? Like wjat kind of God is that? I would say im a good person, morally better than most Christians i came to know, but still im going to hell? Come on. Anf dont u say "ur not going to hell, god is merciful" or some shit like that, because the bible is infallible and everything written on it is flawless and without error, and with that fact, in this context, i am certainly going to hell. Now that isn't a God worth worshipping
@@royallan You may be a good person, and I wouldn't at all disagree that you may be living better than most Christians, but if you reject God, the one who created you, then I don't see why it's such a horrible thing for you to not end up with Him when you die? If you live your life selfishly avoiding God then why is it so hard to believe that He wouldn't want that kind of a person in His holy kingdom. You have free will. It's entirely up to you whether you come to Him or not. I would say that that's a very fair and just law. Would you rather Him be a God that forces his will upon you and doesn't give you the opportunity to come to him by your own will? I certainly wouldn't... I would also like to point out that you have free will to sin or not to sin and you do not go to hell for commitment sin. You go to hell if you reject God and do not repent for your sins. It's not like I don't ever screw up. I'm a human being. We all make mistakes. But it is so freeing to know that no matter what I do, God still loves me... and I'm sorry that the Christians that you have been around haven't treated you with respect. I'm sure they made you feel like they were better than you, but you and I both know that no one is better than anyone. We are all sinners and we are all equal.
@@truthbetold7673 i dont wake up thinking "how could i reject God today?", i wake up thinking how coukd i spend my day as happily as i can. If ur idea of "God pursuing me" are embodied by disrespectful bigoted Christians who goes by their day condemning people to hell unless they convert to Christianity, then maybe ur God isnt doing much of an effective persuasion to try and "save my soul from eternal damnnation"
@@royallan Well, that I'd how most people think throughout a day. Always looking for a fun time, for new experiences... I've said it before, if there are people condemning you to hell who claim to be Christians then you need to understand that those people are not living by the word of God. They are people consumed by anger, and pride. I do not see myself or anyone as being better or worse. We are all sinners, and the only way to make it into heaven is by Jesus sacrificing his life for our transgressions. There is literally nothing that we can do to earn our way into heaven, so the people who you are referring to, which make up like most of Christians today, they are not real Christians. I am truly sorry that you have been treated this way by these people, but just know, we are all human beings, and God is God. We cannot accurately represent Him. He is not just good, He is the definition of goodness, love, and mercy, and I truly hope that you get to see that some day... And again on behalf of all the real Christians I want to sincerely apologize for the actions of these hateful people that you have come into contact with... I wish you well.
@@truthbetold7673 it should go without saying, but thank u for being respectful. I have to admit, for the sake of my own growth, that i do have a prejudice against Christians, or people of any religion as a matter of fact, which clearly clouds my judgements. Ur answers by far are the most logical answer I've heard from a religious stand point. You've earned my respect sir. I still may disagree with ur beliefs, but i definitely understand ur point. Have a great day
To me it's pretty weird to see how satanism is so normalized today. But it's not surprising.
Because the devil who runs this world is leading people to worship him whether directly or indirectly
Because the devil has more morals than your own god. Because your god is TYRANT
@@hippityhoppity6313THERE ARE SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENETS
I
One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
II
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
III
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V
Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
VI
People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
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Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
@@verlatennTHANK YOU SOMEONE SAID IT
The Scooby-Doo villain constantly cutting out the Pastor when he's talking.
Why am I not surprised?
I honestly couldn’t help but laugh at the satanist guy who had the twisty mustache and the voice and dramatics I just couldn’t help it, it’s like he watched an Anton levy’s video and said “I’m going to be just like him”
Hey all, just sharing too all people and sinners like me :DD
I thought it was Johnny Depp little brother.
Did seem a bit contrived
That satanist HAS to be trolling. I just cant take him seriously.
He looks like one of those old timey villains
@@haveabananaproductions9117 that’s what I thought 💀 he looks ridiculous
They way he speaks and dresses and looks. Yeah, hard to take him seriously.
He's so dramatic with everything he does 🤣 shame, I pray he finds Jesus in this life. Otherwise his next life isn't gonna be as fun as he thinks.
He's dripping with pride
That one guy has to be trolling, he looks like the Scooby Doo villain that lives in an old Victorian mansion.
“He lost a weekend”
That’s disgusting to me…. How could someone say that? He suffered and went to hell for us
he went to hell?
He didnt go to hell
He busted open the gates of Hades/Hell and guided every person to the gates of Heaven. Not the same as enduring an eternity of torment.
@@christinaeoff5230 he did
He didn’t go to hell but he certainly suffered
"They look to themselves, their subjective moral standards instead of something that's objective and unchanging" AMEN, thats beeeeeen obvious, they want to be gods of themselves and not submit to the GOD of all creation.
When we say we are our own god, we are talking about free will. The word “god” doesn’t mean the same thing in christianity and satanism
@@canelarum8789 yeah thats true, I knew that
why would i want to submit to a slave owner
@@childofsatan8150 who is the slave owner?
@@albertjames804 God
Yo this wasn't even fair, 3 sorcerers who are allies with each other vs 3 individuals on their own intelectually? As obviously the Satanists will have much more cohesion and agreement among each other, and bounce off each others statements whereas the other 3 already disagree with each other.
Well not necessarily, you see, satanism is not a solid and explicitly concrete religion because it is relatively new, yes satan "cults" have been around forever, but it wasn't that long ago that it was made a church and religion, so it does not have a very concrete set of rules. They needed to bring in more than one satanist as beliefs within the satanist community are all over the place BECAUSE of it being kinda new and progressive. That is clear when watching the full episode, there are many times where one of the satanist disagrees with another satanist, it would simply be very unfair to put one satanist against three members of well established religions that date back thousands of years in the past.
Not to mention the fact that one member of the satanist religion simply cannot represent the whole community because, as ive said before, it is a very new religion with vague scriptures depicting its morals
@@angelloor.mp3 Your wrong any real satanist knows our rules are clearly defined in the satanic Bible. Created by Anton Lavey, so anything or anyone who dosen't define them selves by these morals are not real Satanists. The man even coined the term satanist.
@@ronnysmith9428 youre speaking of the church of satan, whereas these individuals are part of the satanic temple, they follow seven fundamental tenets. Only stating you should act in compassion and empathy, therefore there is not a concrete set of “teachings” or rules you have to follow, hence its impossible to chose one person to represent modern, progressive satanism (The Satanic Temple)
@@angelloor.mp3 Tst aren't satanists. Your a satanist if you follow Anton lavey teachings and the one man with the groovy mustache is the only real Satanist that was up there. I follow his UA-cam channel I don't know about the other two.
That Satanists impression of Johnny Depp is astounding.
I hated that you had three satanist and one of each of the others. Three of each religion would have been better.
He didn’t. Remember, he is reacting to another’s video. Jubilee chose them.
@@TheHcjfctc their point still stands though. 3 of one group before 1 of 3 groups
@@de5072 I wasn’t saying he didn’t have a point, just that it needs to be directed at Jubilee rather than the Daily Disciple
"He gave up a weekend" has to be one of the most ignorant views I've ever heard.
I saw that in the comment section, people are offended why Isaac isn't open-minded. I don't know, maybe because Bible is the only truth and worship Satan is awful? in God we are not lost and we are not walking around thinking that this world is a simulation. these Satanists are too self-centered and it is not right. We have no right to see us almighty and all that stupid "do whatever you want, because just you matter". God gave us a precious gift and we need to obey His commands. No questions needed, period.
Satanists don’t worship satan. Satan is a Christian concept and we’re not Christians. I’m a Luciferian Satanist and I do not worship the devil. People who are too afraid to question the Bible and too self centered to go out and learn about what they don’t understand are ignorant. You judge us constantly, yet is that not something your god condemned? Thou shall not judge or you shall be judged? Where’s your love? Where’s your compassion and understanding? If your god promotes love and saving sinners then how do you think god judges you for your hatred towards those who “need saving”?
@@samaelfallen4068 this is by far my favorite comment and i think you did a great job defending satanists, im personally a non-theistic satanist and dont believe in god or satan as a deity. to us satanism is more about personal sovereignty and independence, most christians are just a little too quick to judge.
@@imscooby4661 so where do satanists go when they die?
@@animehoser4072 we dont believe in an afterlife, heaven or hell
We are called to judge righteously. And we are also judged the way we judge others. It isn’t a light matter and neither is sin. Denying truths doesn’t make it a lie, it just means you won’t apply it to your life. But if someone told you the truth, would you call them a liar? I guess it depends on your ego and sense of self. Personally it’s never a judging matter, it’s seeing someone in the exact position I was once in and offering advice. It’s all to our free will. To follow God or the world.
The devil is a liar. It's saddening to see so many people deceived by him
When you see the lies it makes you feel hopeless. We need to look to the Lord, who is always here with us, and will never let go.
I have a Friend who heard the words:"I will never let you go" while praying. He has a wonderful testimony....my point is if we look around in our communities we see God working. There is always hope
Frank Turek should have been on this debate he would have destroyed all of their ridiculas arguments.
that guy is an alpha male, gigachad
I prefer much more William Lane Craig.
Jubilee will never bring such speakers on their platform
@@jossy__fresh why?
@@Nov_Net I really don't know what's their problem, maybe it's because it's not a Christian channel to begin with and Satan knows they have alot of views so he wouldn't want to risk having a true knowledgeable Christian on their platform that could literally turn alot of their viewers to Christ, so he keeps manipulating them into bringing the one's that are not so sound when it comes to defending Christianity
Yo I also watch living waters too, I always felt like living waters was some underrated channel its a good thing that I see other christian youtubers are talking about that channel
There is also a lot of talking about God as if he is on the same level as us and is under the same rules and laws as us. He created US in HIS image.
“He gave up a weekend🧐😐”
Me not understanding what he’s saying: 😅🥲
Me playing it back to realize what he’s saying: 😧😮😲😬
Ikr!
Jesus didn't just lose a weekend, he gave up eternal bliss for the suffering of humanity.
My morality which is not based on Christian faith or any other faith, is based on the understanding that suffering is a universal experience, regardless of race, class or religion. My foundation is established on the truth of that human experience, the major compass being ease of that suffering and acknowledgment of that experience. I know what it means to be human, and understand how agonizing it can be, I don’t need a supreme ruler to establish that morality for me.
Thank you for responding because when I watched this on my own I was just so upset how our Christian buddy wasn't able to answer all their dumb questions
And you calling this.response intellectual? Lmao
Their question were valid, wdym?
@@metalguitarcovers3414 love you 😘
If you watch a few videos then you will notice Jubilee skews their videos towards their leftist beliefs, at least a little.
@@silaaron76 they do, although I think a lot of times it has to do with the age range that they usually Target. Although in this instance I definitely would appreciate it if you had gotten not necessarily someone were argumentative but someone who is more adept at debate style speaking and who is not going to let themselves get interrupted or flustered as much. I wouldn't say either side wom or lost. Having constantly to have these debates &in many cases arguments or insults thrown at me, over a lot of questions or stances that are brought up in this.. it doesn't really accomplish anything on our side if the person we're debating is so submissive and not assertive, that it just ends up looking almost like bullying and being unnecessarily aggressive or antagonistic. I mean the Muslim kid I don't know why they chose him he didn't seem to really have a firm grasp on even basic tenants or literature around his belief it's fine if you fully believes in it but he didn't seem to know anything about it on even academic front. The pastor however was like a real life interpretation of Ned Flanders.
2:05 he was talking the people that do bad things in the name of God, not that God did those wrongs
Yes but the problem lies they're in the fact that God is meant to be omnipotent he created you he chose your path and you guys are constantly arguing that he works in mysterious ways and nothing happens that he doesn't want it to have it which would imply then that he created you if you were going to do about things too ultimately do bad things he's created the world where the possibility for these things to happen exists along with creating people who have the capacity to do that evil.
@@cheerfulsatanist what you seem to misunderstand is that God chose to allow his creations to choose their own paths by giving them free will and agency. God lets us choose him, but some people dont and create harm. Tell me, would you consider a god who forces people to love and worship him to be more loving than a god who allows others to make that choice?
@@weirdlanguageguy first once again it really sucks when Christians talk to non-christians but especially satanists or weekends or anything that's considered occultish as if we are gullible ignorant stupid children who are incapable of understanding how evil Satan is and how he's using us and overall we just apparently don't comprehend God's love or what he wants from us. It's incredibly pretentious. As if we were silly and got caught up in Satan's lies and he somehow tricked us into joining, and you're just trying to convert us for our own good at a kindness of your heart. And I understand that you think you're helping and it's a part of your religion in general to try to spread what you interpret to be a great thing but it just tends to make people like me uncomfortable and sort of annoyed since it hinges on the fact that I'm apparently weak willed enough to be Hoodwinked by and apparently obviously evil deity.
And let's not play around by saying wouldnt I prefer a God who gives me free will so I can make the choice of him freely as opposed to when you take that freewheeling forces me to love him unconditionally. that's basically what we have now. the only difference is instead of removing free will, he's just made a system so that my choices are either love him and conditionally and follow his rules. Whether or not I agree with them, rules that i feel are wrong on a moral, ethical, and fundamental level. That if I should choose not to follow or to live by these rules and guidelines, I will suffer unimaginably for eternity. That is that question managing to force someone but with one or two extra little steps that make it slightly more convoluted but you end up with the same result. Essentially no he gave me free will so I don't have to love him or do what he says unconditionally but he's made the alternative if I disobey him horrific beyond comprehension. That's not a loving relationship, that's a horrifying ultimatum this sort of which if anyone suggested in a normal human relationship the other person would be completely justified in running away and getting a restraining order at all possible.
So.. no, the idea of worshippinh a creator who instructs me to adhere to their rules, or they'll make me endure mind blowing pain and suffering for all eternity, is not something that sounds like a caring God in the least, it SOUNDS like a fickle, narcissistic, and arrogant tyrant. And then to add on top of all that, I also have to ensure that my husband and my children follow these commands and guidelines to ensure he doesn't horrifically dismember and torture them also... Well with a straight face actually saying that throughout all of this I need to appreciate him, love him unconditionally come carry him above it anyone else in my heart. That I need to make sure that following his law is above absolutely everything else as a mother as a wife everything I have to put him first. I have to put this creator before anyone and everything else I care about and love him unconditionally... And appreciate everything he gives to me and is done for me? All while he's essentially holding it eternal Doom over top of me and those I love if I don't cooperate to his standard? But I'm somehow supposed to love a creator that is threatening my children for pursuing the lives they want to live life that according to you he planned and created when he created them so he's punishing them for being the way he made them and you want us to love this individual and a trust in his guidance and his plan...? Yeah no I'm definitely not loving or extending any courtesy to someone who threatens my family in such a way at just the thought of them not listening to everyone of his requirements to live a "godly life". That just sounds like a lifespan that is essentially one giant hostage situation where at the end of your life you can look back at it all the things you wish you could have done but didn't because you were following the guidelines of an erratic and frighteningly possessive God who wants you to love him on pain of eternal hellfire l. That sounds super fun and that is all regrettable.
@@cheerfulsatanist Whats your view on Satan then?
@@cheerfulsatanist bruh God is even more powerful and omnipotent because he actually LETs us pick eternal death or life. Choose one. In hell without him. Or heaven WITH him. It’s not that hard. And it’s funny how people say that “God is arrogant” because he wants us to worship and acknowledge Him. Then they turn around and say “he must not be powerful” because he gives us free will to do whatever the heck we want. I choose to follow him and I’m no longer on the path or addiction and demons
If life had no purpose we would be incapable of discovering it had no purpose -C.S. Lewis
I love learning about different theology but the one thing that sets god of the bible apart from every single religion or world ideology is Jesus and that's why I got saved.
God*
And yes that’s correct 🥰
@@vickyandersen8660 god
@@vickyandersen8660 haha my phone does it automatically. That makes me laugh because I think the same as I'm commenting or messaging friends. But so lazy!!
@@user-fi8mi2yp9s Edgy edgar
@@chunkchips4554 I hate when it does that 😂
that director is a god sent for letting shawn get out his words.
Richard is like the stereotypical 1960's the devil in disguise guy
The guy with the mustache looks like he is playing a character. It’s difficult to take him seriously.
Justice is fulfilled either in your punishment or your salvation. That's a very clear explanation. I never thought of explaining it that way.
My concern with these people calling themselves "satanists" when they're just aggressive atheists is that it gives people the impression that the occult is some PC, alternative lifestyle. Even just dabbling in it is extremely dangerous and it's really concerning how normalized it is in our culture.
Some comments may make fun of this video but don’t let those things discourage you, it’s part of the straight way to what you will achieve at the end.
The Satanists are full of hatred and pride. I pray they repent and find salvation in Jesus Christ.
God doesnt damn us to hell - our actions do
I was talking with my nan once, and she said something about why she thinks God is actually cruel and selfish because 'why are we commanded to worship God, to gorify Him, a mother doesn't expect and demand praise from her children with all the hard work she does'. And I had no idea how to respond to that.
This is actually a very interesting thing, that relates to what you can observe in nature - excluding humans, because of cultural beliefs in some places. The thing is, there are mothers in animals we see around us, and in our society, who go by their instinct and don’t expect praise or anything from their children.
They were, after all, the ones who decided to have them, take care of them, nourish their talents and interests and teach them how to live. It isn’t child’s decision to be born, hence, they don’t owe anything to their parents, who of whom it’s expected to take care of them properly and adequately, until they can go off on their own. That is the nature.
Then why does god gift people free will and then expect so many sacrifices to be made for him? I’m just curious tbh.
Btw, I used to be catholic, but stopped once I realized that I never truly believed and simply was in on it, because of the way I was raised.
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But God is not man. Our own bible tells us not to lean on our own understanding. God by humans standards of today would in fact be a human being that would be considered arrogant, selfish,etc. But if we go by God being the beginning and end of everything and all things are defined by Him and through Him the question has no standing. Because then the definition of selfish and cruel can only be defined by God and not by man's understanding (which is corrupt in the first place). It's almost like a doctor of medicine being called into question about his surgery practice by a psychiatrist who only has a basic or no understanding of surgery protocols.
I was Christian and now I don’t believe in religion. I feel more at peace with myself and more content. Most Christians who claim to go to church and love Jesus can be worse than the average person who doesn’t believe in god full of judgement and hypocrisy. I believe in people that I have experiences in front of me and not in some fairy god and a few lines from a book that will dictate how to live my life authentically and unapologetically and that’s the beauty of not following religion. That’s the way I look at it. Live and let live !
I can't even take the one guy serious...every word sounds like he is acting... fake. He is looking for himself... he can not connect with others, he deceives. I also find the Christians in this are weak in their answers.
Instead of bashing the satinist and atheist , we should pray that they find God!
Good work brother ,,keep it up,,,when I see young people like you spreading the gospel it gives me hope that yeah even in this sinful generation we can be light in the darkness and spread the gospel of Christ
Thing is, Jesus Christ loves us more than we'll ever know.
11:50 that little smile the Satanist had right there, he thought he got him. But nope, Shawn used his question to show God's love. That is awesome
Richard-Lael Lillard is such an ICON! ❤🔥🔥
This is so good I'm excited for part 2
I just posted it! 😁
The man with the curly mustache is why God warns us that pride is the most deadly of sins.
It is so weird in general that every religion is not being interrupted when spoken about and when it is about Jesus Christ, it should be shut down right then and there 🤔
This debate has to be a south park episode, it is too good, the reactions.
I think that the purpose for us as Christians is explained when God created the garden. To be in constant communion with God. And to Glorify God by living out his commands. Our ultimate purpose is. In seeking and following our ultimate purpose we will fall into our small “p” purpose
I couldn't take that Satanist seriously lol
The male satanist looks like a supervillain in a kid's movie
Never in a million years would I ever give a satanist a time of the day for what?
As a Muslim, I really don't know how I ended up here, maybe my penchant for listening to debates made UA-cam suggest this video to me. Anyhow, I haven't watched the entire video, just the first 5 mins, but that's enough for me to know that the views of the Muslim guy in the video doesn't represent what Islam teaches. In Islam, Hell is a *real* place; just like it is mentioned in the Bible.
Is it a lake of fire?
@@blast2686 it's not a good place to end up in... Why don't you search online about Jannah ( Paradise in Islam).
@@SF-gw3cw What I found is we will be gifted with 72 virgins in Jannah
@@blast2686 🙄. What you found was a world worth striving for... But unfortunately, you're so biased against Islam, you'll never try
@@SF-gw3cw Uhh this so called World we are striving for is given in the Quran? lol
I don't really understand on why a lot of people believe on the devil. Haven't these people read or watch parts of the bible and its description of hell? I don't think it'd be fun to be in hell, especially at the fact that you'll experience torture for the rest of your soul life.
Satanist says he wouldn’t worship a god who would send him to hell …. How ironic
I haven't heard a better explanation and if anything u strengthened my faith
Fighting religion with religion. He’s so smart
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You keep saying that. Why wouldn’t he discuss religion from the view point of his own faith? That’s literally what everyone went to do in the original in the first place. I don’t know what any of you expected to see on a Christian UA-cam channel.
Bakugo, i never knew you were a Christian
As a satanist/LHP, I can confidently say that no one will ever get our teaching right except for us😂
5:31 God doesn’t send you to hell YOU do. You make your self go to hell with you wrongful and sinful thing if only you put faith in the lord you enter in heaven
God created hell and sin
@@childofsatan8150 no I don’t think so I think but I forgot about this I’m probably wrong but God create hell for Lucifer and Lucifer created sin correct me if I’m wrong
@@eliteleo1756 GOD created the tree of knowledge of good and evil so he created sin
@@childofsatan8150 sin is disobeying GOD. GOD didn't create it
@@boudicacelticwarrior1481 he knew it was all gonna turn to shit but yet he created it even the bible says god created good and evil and you Christian always say that sin is evil
We can’t get to heaven by good works alone but through a relationship with him.
Technically, if there is a heaven and hell, wouldn’t that be forceful and immoral? To force someone to believe in you or else they spend the rest of eternity suffering, even if they were a good person? For example, let’s take a fire fighter, he is an atheist, and he has spent his life saving families, animals, putting out fires, being a genuinely good person. However, he dies one day while saving someone, but because he simply didn’t believe in god he gets to go to hell to burn for eternity. Doesn’t that sound a little…off to you?
@@wolflover_girls2431 God does not force us to do anything especially having a relationship. It’s our own choice God can give us hits that he is there through the people in our lives or a UA-cam video that will lead us back to him. God is a gentleman and he will just not force his way into your life. You have to ask him into your life when you recognize you’re in need of a savior and can do this without him or his son Jesus Christ. James 4:1-10 say “Where do wars and fights come from among you? Do they not come from your desires for pleasure that war in your members? You lust and do not have. You murder and covet and cannot obtain. You fight and war. Yet you do not have because you do not ask. You ask and do not receive, because you ask amiss, that you may spend it on your pleasures. Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, “The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously”? But He gives more grace. Therefore He says: “God resists the proud, But gives grace to the humble.” Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Lament and mourn and weep! Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up.”
This is saying we are sinful we can either be friends with the world or enemies with God. When we submitted to the world we are faced with jealousy, lust, etc. but when we side with God it’s easier to fight all of that (believe me I’ve been there). The enemy can’t dwell in something that is Holy but excepting Christ in it the only step to this, then deliverance which is what that double minded is talking about there. You can either have the mind of Christ or the world but never both and if you do there is a problem. You can have a time for grieving but it will ultimately turn to joy with God and he will lift your spirits.
All this is achievable with a relationship like you would have a relationship with your best friend or parents. Hope this helped.
To the satanist that said he gave up a weekend, I doubt if he was crucified he’d still think that: like does he know how horrible of a death that is?
I think it's no coincidence that the subtle, twisted, and accusatory words of these satanists reflect their master well. It makes me sick. The enemy is subtle and deceitful, not always brazen and loud. May God justly condemn those who fully and finally blaspheme His name in utter rejection and hatred
I really enjoyed hearing the different points of views!! Great video!!! I will be watching Part 2 later today!
-Satan is not in charge of Hell
-Hell isn't Burning right now
-Hell fire will have eternal consequences buy will NOT be constantly burning "souls" for eternity, as God said (through Isaiah I think) "The wicked will be NO MORE"!!!
-The "soul" isn't eternal. It dies, Jesus said God can kill "body and soul"; Otherwise Satan would have been correct when he said to Eve "You won't surely die"...
God is Loving and Just.
How is it that the satanist can just be blatantly disrespectful towards these people's religions. "he gave up a weekend." Yet they demand some moral justice to the world be do not want to give it in return. They want to be accepted but don't except others. To me this social interaction is a good picture of what the real religion is and what is just a pretender
READ “HE CAME TO SEND THE CAPTIVES FREE” by REBECCA BROWN
So helpful, thank you!! :)
God is supposed to be omnipotent....therefore he knows everything, including who will and will not believe in him
So basically all non believers are predetermined for hellfire
So much for the notion of free will.
omniscient* but yeah i agree. god punishes people for the way he makes them
@@jamesjulien1206 no he gives us freewill even though he knows whats going to happen he gives us a chance to change that. Y do u think jesus himself died for our sins he gave us a chance
@@kyleclarke6228 Therefore no real freewill!! If he exactly knows what my actions are going to be, if he decides for me to born into a diffrent religion, he knows how much impact will my culture and my religion is going to have on me. He knows I will never be a Christian from the beginning and yet he will put me in hell. Bravo god! You are the best.
@@andrewjohnson9014 tbf u have a point
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Plenty of people from different religions convert to Christianity each day, while plenty of people grow up in christian households and convert to atheism. You yourself must know what Christianity if you’re watching a Christian youtube channel and chatting in the comments, yet you don’t believe. God plants seeds into our lives in hopes that we will turn away from our sin and follow him. He’s not going to force you, but if you’re able to find this video then you have been given plenty of time and plenty of opportunities.
Pretty much 1 Christian vs all false beliefs
Yeah , but I feel kinda bad for the Muslim kid , he’s obviously got no experience in any kind of arguing or anything
The satanists seem much more preoccupied with appearing to be the most interesting people in the room than actually making coherent contentions.
Me a satanist sitting here like: 👁👄👁
Satanist unite 🤘🤘🤘🖤
Saaaammmeee
Jist of this video. Because these Satanists weren't force fed the teachings of god they are wrong.
Hell yeah! Nice pfp btw
Sameeee lmao 👁👄👁
They should have brought on someone like Voddie to give this pastor back up
Read the book “he came to set the captives free”
I have to be completely honest and tell you I've been confused about my "Purpose" in life every since I've been a Christian because it's like so many people are Missionaries in other countries and many people have jobs, etc. I've be so lost in this. I am also Learning disabled so it's so much more frustrating for me to try to understand this and the "Gifts" as well. I mean where do I belong and how do I help others when I don't even know......
No matter what you believe no matter the religion you follow no one is truly sure of all the answers and the only thing we can fall back on is the knowledge that we should do the right thing within reason although even that is subjective by the variables of the situation at hand everyone should be more open minded and understanding but it can be difficult to do so without enough facts and information to fall back on what's right and wrong or what we should be doing in life.
Ask God, he knows your heart better then any
Pray to God and ask him for guidance.. there is power in prayer. Be aware because God may answer blatantly or unexpectedly. That is the beauty of the Almighty!
Laura, it sounds like you're waiting for a special calling from God. Am I right? It can be very frustrating when we see people find theirs, do incredible things and find fulfillment in those things. But our calling isn't always to do something that can be seen by congregations. It's just to follow Jesus, build a relationship with him, and in doing so becoming more like him in whatever we're doing. If you want more responsibility, then work on this first. When we do much with little, more is likely to be given.
"And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him." Colossians 3:17
Pray, pray, pray and ask God for revelation. Please read Called to conquer by Derek Prince. It could help.
Also look at your passions, the problems you'd like to solve and the things that naturally come to you. They could be good indicators.
It also helps to speak to a (careers) counsellor.
God is a state of mind; Find Him, Know HIM, and Follow HIM; With this ongoing daily effort any believer will know the difference and be cautious among those who are satanists, non-believers, demonic beings, etc.
Mark definitely speaks of Gehenna ..the Hell translation is just that 'poor translation'... Btw Gehenna was a real place outside Jerusalem
Yep, basically he was referring to the lake of fire at the end of revelation, where death and hades( the grave) are sent and destroyed. He was referring to Gehenna, to refer that is better to lost a part of yourself that causing you to sin, like being the thing that is causing your temptation, than you being destroyed with the trash(sin) for being in sin.
I am a hindu . We actually have something like ten commandments. Known as karma . Living life with good dids ( good dids are not mentioned properly) . I follow 10 commandments. Respect Judaism and Christianity . Problem is hinduism don't give you a exact path hinduism has to much superstition which makes it like unnecessary. Hindu focus on rituals more then meditation and prayer . Also degeneracy is very much prevailed in hinduism as hinduism don't says what good and whats not in a straight cut manner which is important. And I find quran a copypasting and personal customized of Hebrew Bible .
I love Christianity and Judaism because it says what god want and not in straight cut manner.
these people are not satanists. They are clowns
Arnt they the same anyway
There is a split between Satanists. In the same way there isn't multiple splits in Christianity, "Satanist" is not a one size fits all label. The Church of Satan and the Satanic Temple can be seen like Seventh Day Adventists and Episcopalians.
Not linking the original video is a disservice to the original creators
twirly mustache guy is insufferable to listen to
This episode of Jubilee really bothered my spirit. I don’t like how they gave the young female satanist a heavy metal intro and made it into a whole thing. It says a lot on where Jubilee stands at their core values, while these talks are good, and while the one gentleman running the talk mentioned that Shawn didn’t get a full sentence in. This is how it is most times, and I commend Shawn for his gentle spirit. I just wish he went further, or could go further without being interrupted so vehemently
the heavy metal thing was a joke its just making fun of stereotypes (letting the viewer know its not that serious), and Shawn just let Richard step over his toes, if he is phased by common sense and can't think of anything to say back to him, that's not being gentle, just unprepared for a discussion/debate
I feel like a stronger Christian should have been there to stand up to the satanist idk my thoughts but the pastor seemed to stutter alot
ceremonial law is fulfilled in Jesus, but not the moral. If you love me keep my commandments summary of 10 in the new testament is 2.
This is a really good concept! I look forward to the other parts.
Great!
Keep in mind, God will not force anyone to spend eternity with him.
Exactly. Some people want to have their cake and eat it.
This pastor forgot to defend apologetically Penal Substitution, which certainly makes what Jesus did more than “giving up a weekend”.
11:00 when says that Jesus merely “gave up a weekend” I was struggling to hold my anger. To reduce the suffering and pain of Jesus’s death on the cross to giving up a weekend is incredibly insulting. I sometimes almost breakdown at even the thought that the God of the Heavens and Earth would sacrifice so much for the sinful man that I am. To spit in the faith of someone’s faith like that is terrible. Father forgive them for they don’t know what they are doing.
Guys please can you learn about Satanism before bashing. I actually don't know why ya'll are bashing their religion like it's their RELIGION so stop bashing their beliefs
I really don't care for the guy behind the video. He's completely dismissing anything that the Satanists say on the simple clause that "it's not gods way". I can see how this guy may have never actually thought too deeply into his own faith
It goes both ways my dude. People bash on the Abrahamic faiths all the time with nobody batting an eye yet when Satanism is bashed it's somehow wrong?
How can I find the original video??
The question is where does ultimate good and ultimate Bad come from what is morality what is their morality based on. Because morals without God is chaos because God is Ultimate good.
Satan claims the dominion on earth but our planet is the battle and revelation of who the devil is. After the resurrection Jesus proclaimed his victory to the devil and he is furious now.
May God (Jesus Christ The Son, The Father, The Holy Spirit) Our 3 In 1 God The Holy Trinity Bless You Brother Isaac , Your Family And Everyone On Earth, In Jesus Name Amen ☦️❤️✝️
No ones lost, secret of ages is properly taught by Neville Goddard.
What?
So what I want to know Is, where is the objection to both sides here?
Neither🤨. There can only be one truth and one objection and that's the Christian side. The Godly and Holy side.
God bless you brother, from an Evangelist, I hope the light of Jesus will shine upon those that live in darkness.
We don't do anything to give God glory. Believing in the SON MAKES US GLORY to God.