Tails gets Trolled is still going and actually has a physical release with guest artists now. The boys could literally do pages of TGT if they wanted to.
yeah they have really unique insights on these creative fields that you won't hear anywhere else, mostly because they don't really care about networking in their industries and are normal people lol
I'd like to imagine Corey will be completely and totally inept during a meeting and some guy specifically paid to do so will go up to him and whisper "Amy Rose farts" which makes Corey instantly go into professional mode.
Something like videos about gaming, websplorers and real life serious stuff about they’re existence would be holy trinity for us. And this thing had all of them 👏
@@MisterDutch93 I remember GameGrumps was acquired by them half way into the Jon era (or at least near the end) glad that Maker and all these youtuber agencies are gone
@@carltheshivan That's because the "current" art isn't done by the original creator, it's all fans that are continuing the comic but adhering to his script.
@@ExaltedUriel Sounds similar to how Murata a professional manga artist came in and remade ONE's cruddy looking webcomic One Punch-Man into a manga with bonkers looking art based on his storyboards because he found it cool and funny. I wish there were more collaborations like this for online creations.
They should unironically record Zach reacting to tails gets trolled. Its not very different from that websplorer series, except it's genuine content now instead of political reddit posts
Oh dang, Edd Gould was partnered with Machinima and they were continuing to collect AdSense from Eddsworld after he died? Really goes to show how many people they screwed over.
Tails Gets Trolled is an actual unironic masterpiece. That one iconic shot of Tails has that pure raw emotion expressed through the simple art that I, as an aspiring artist, still have trouble trying to capture in my own work. Cory and Chris is right about people who some would label as autistic or socially stunted. Some are notorious for being absolute geniuses because they don't have that filter most people have.
@@miguelbranquinho7235 the magic is in the past all these guys have had together and where they’re at now. Like for example them talking about getting fucked by Machinma in the past and everything looked bleak for sure but just look at them now! Chris has a successful let’s play channel and a ducking GAME, Zach has a show on adult swim, Cory.. is in a band and doing what he loves.. it just warms my heart. I’m so glad the whole crew is doing well.. I hope Stamper can get his head right tho.
@@themigtyboosh It's great to know that the people whose content you grew up with are doing well. These guys deserve it. They put out so much genuine content. My high school days wouldn't have been the same without them (and NG in general).
Wish they talked more animation and game dev stuff like in this episode. I always really enjoy hearing about their thought processes and techniques as well as all the horrid shit they had to go through. Fascinating stuff
Prolly can't say too much about projects they work on now, but war stories on their old stuff would be great but they also told a lot about that on sleepycast
@@islandboy9381 That’s very true, I like hearing about the older stuff a little more anyway. I know they’re probably locked by NDAs by anything from the past couple years so they can’t really mention much lol
I doubt Cory remembers this, but I was at Philly Pico Day in 2019 and I got to play a little bit of Nightmare Cops at the NG Office (I even drew on the wall!), it was so endearing just hearing Cory talk about the game and seeing how much progress was made on it. It's definitely something I look forward to, I know these things take time, and you can clearly see the passion dedicated towards it. Hope you guys don't get injured tailbones from sitting and working all day. Also I don't know how far you guys are going to get into Sonic Heroes but a bit of a note, besides the flight height and distance cap, Fly is stupidly overpowered. Get your Fly characters to Level 3 and you can take care of most enemies with the basic Thunder Shoot. Even the final Egg Emperor boss can be done in less than 3 minutes if you spam the Fly character on them because they'll automatically target the weakspots. Source: I just beat this game last night and it was a miserable experience.
Oh man, hearing them rant about Machinima is so cathartic for anyone that was regularly browsing UA-cam around the 2010-ish era, and this is coming from an outsider that had no interaction with the network at all. Just being a young edgy gamer type and seeing this huge channel putting out so many hilarious videos without realizing they were just sourcing from actually talented content creators, it was amazing. I subscribed immediately when I saw Grand Theft Auto 4 montages, mostly done by Ben Buja, and just falling in love with the false concept that this was a big collaborative company with hilarious people making good videos. For some reason a subscription felt more important back then, like you were openly supporting a thing you enjoyed when there were far less users on the site (remember when everyone's subscriptions were public on their channel pages, along with UA-cam friends and public channel comments? Man, I remember seeing a lot of depraved shit on there, mostly from my own friends after we found each other's channels and started messing with each other.) Then after subscribing and seeing a new video literally every 5 minutes in my subscriptions box was the big hint that this wasn't a "real" channel, it was some monstrosity robot just feeding into the Call of Duty, GTA, Minecraft, Skate 3, and Halo crowd, while any content deviating away from that would get dislike bombed by children like myself. Even more professionally filmed live action stuff like RedLetterMedia's Half in the Bag would go up on Machinima and kids would storm it for not being Minecraft. It was so weird seeing all these UA-camrs, some that would later become huge, not really understanding the site and getting suckered into that stuff because they either had their own website to fall back on, or just got duped into it like discussed in this video. And then you had me just waiting for the next GTA 4 Funny Moments through literally thousands of uploads without realizing I could have sourced the actual content creator's channel and had a way more concise experience over there. I'm genuinely sorry so many people got scammed into that shitty business back in the day, but I'm glad that they're free to talk about it now that the MCN concept is dead and probably illegal (or at least a huge TOS violation), seriously fuck them for putting creators through that. I seriously don't remember that much of a channel's content getting deleted, and much of it lost forever. There's still some highlighted videos on there in my memory that I remember enjoying with no surviving reuploads. What a vacuum, I still haven't fully grasped the concept of newer UA-cam users that are completely unaware of that channel, it was such a titan that felt like it had its reach in every corner, and thankfully we came to realize how damaging it was.
Yeah, that's the magic of silencing and oppressing content creators who speak out against you. I remember very fondly that the people who had gripes with Machinima couldn't even speak out against them. Imagine being like 16-17 years old and your passion project suddenly liquidates into real money. That shit can get any child acting unwise and Machinima *knew* about this. They made bank off of child labor.
Even as an outsider, I knew how bad machinma was. I know they talked about it in the season finale podcast episode because for Machinma it was predatory to get this 15 year old kid with 10k subs and get all of their money and of course they’re not going to talk to them. Their biggest clients have 20-40 million subs. I know a lot of people had to threaten league action. But they would do the 30 day grace period to fuck them over. So they would wait until the last day to ask the lawyer for more clarification and stuff. They were horrible. Fuck Machinma dude.
Hearing all this and the Eddsworld reveal makes Chris that much more of a hero to this field of online animators at the time in my eyes, it was truly the gateway to knowing Machinima's true predatory nature for the public but through a satirical, understandable way.
I remember when Machinima was just blowing up, I was in middle school. I remember kids thought being partnered with Machinima was "making it big". This was like 2007-09? We had no idea. Thank God I never fell for it.
What's weird is that Oney attributes the video to Edd Goulds post mortem contract... but Edd hadn't died yet when it was actually uploaded. Memory problems i suppose
The funny thing about Tails Gets Trolled is that it's still going. As the people in the comments pointed out, I was very mistaken on the circumstances. Check their comments for information not from a complete *growl*
Almost none of this is true, TGT is still being headed by the creator and his brother but it now has a full artist team built by the community and has gotten increasingly serious and complex.
As someone who makes games, develops Minecraft mods and recently started making UA-cam content, This video was truly one of the best things I could have spent my time on today. Very happy to have gotten a peek into these guys heads and hear about their mistakes along the way. Edit: I made a game and I worked thousands of hours on it over nine months and it almost killed me.
7:00 I imagine whenever there's a minutes-long jump-cut like this that it's because they all just suddenly go completely silent and the editor has to skip over it.
Even in death Machinima still wanted to inflict pain on the world. *Every* single video they've uploaded, all 5000 of them became privated for absolutely no reason. Keep in mind even their youtube videos going as far back as 2007 are now flat out unviewable.
Also, I don’t think it’s malicious. Likely has to do with the money it would earn, and without a business that money can’t be distributed to whomever it’s meant to be given to and there isn’t anyone to accept said money.. also likely that whoever owns it, despite it being defunct, wants to prevent the content from being used illegally
Cory is genuinely an amazing artist, Lyle was and still is a hilarious, unapologetically high octane man of hilarity and Chris and this small goblin that crawled into the studio are pretty hilarious. They might have suffered in the past, but I love this group so much. it shaped them into hilarious men with silly stories.
The Machinima contracts were absolutely insane I think the Super Best Friends had like a fucking 25 year contract, and they gradually uploaded less machinima-only content over time to the point where it was like one video a year
This was massively informative guys, thank you. Those mistakes from not knowing when you're new to something are so true. So much can be just not knowing what to ask and how to communicate early on, and getting sucked into what you think is an opportunity. Not many people who've been through it are willing to put the information out there to help the next guy, so again, thanks.
Man, maybe this is too much, but i really find your guys stories about how much you've suffered working as artists and animators is really inspiring. Really makes me annoyed when people consider art and creative works to be "not real work" when even a simple project can be a massive amount of work.
Cory and Chris really undersold Tales Gets Trolled by just describing the very beginning and making it sound like a one-off. Zach needs to know how deep the rabbit hole goes.
hearing them talk passionately about animation and game making and then in previous episodes talking about fart fetish and poop fetishes is truly the OneyPlays experience
That’s very nice of Corey to praise Jeff hard work on Nightmare cops. It sucks people are harassing him. Let’s hope more people appreciate his dedication.
This is one of the best Oneyplays series yet. Everything from their ramblings to the dark history of those UA-cam startups. I’m very thankful for this channel, only let’s play I’ve enjoyed for years.
I don't envy people who get into game design. It sounds like an insanely ambitious task even for total geniuses just because of how involved and draining it is. You have to be a certain kind of insane in order to not hate yourself in the process.
All those things machinima did with bad contract terms and exploiting young people not knowing the value of their work would probably make a court decide those contracts they created were unconscionable. Those contracts were potentially unenforceable and could have been challenged in court but litigation is expensive so a beginner animator/youtuber probably would not have the resources to challenge it easily.
Just keep your scope reasonable. I'm starting my first as a hobby and its a pretty fun experience. That said, I started under the assumption that it'd take ~3 months and I'm nearly 6 in with likely another 6 to go. They weren't lying about that. If you're interested, you should try it. Worst that happens is you don't like it and move on to something else
The best advice I can give as someone also getting into game development, keep your scope small and create a game design document prior to starting development. It's best to write out everything you want in your game first and be as methodical as possible, that way you can avoid falling into the trap of feature creep during development.
I have a couple of friends that work for Iron Galaxy and they seem to enjoy their work. I think the experience varies if you are solo vs working with a small crew vs working for a company.
Tails Get Trolled is fucking amazing. The story time threads on /v/ gave me a profound appreciation of his dialogue and autism. Most writers could only dream of writing dialogue half as well flowing as Tails, Sonic, and Shadow talking about trolling
Game Development was my dream job, but knowing what I know now, its a crazy amount of work. The coding alone is insane. So many different systems all interacting and all need to be built in code.
I had no idea about that thing with Machinima trying to cash out on Ed Gould's popularity after his death because they refused to release him of his contract despite his passing.
I always get excited whenever they talk about animating and game development; listening to their experiences is so informative and enlightening to someone like myself who inspires to become an animator. Many thanks to you guys and even to the rest of the Sleepy Cast for all your words of wisdom on the topics.
Almost impressed by the fact that Cory thought Tails Gets Trolled was sincere, but Cory has a generally warped perception of reality so it's not surprising (and half the internet thought TGT was not ironic when it was getting big, to be fair).
I think the actual creator said that he isn't on the spectrum and he was just really young and had bad grammar when he made the comic; he's 25 now if anyone's wondering
i don't understand how 40% of corey related content on oneyplays is making fun of autistic people when he went to a dozen separate mcdonald's because he wanted all of the sonic the hedgehog happy meal toys
I've got to admit I envy the freedom something like Tails Gets Trolled has. I spent all day working on placeholder game assets that nobody is ever going to see and honestly even with the unnecessary level of work that went in I still sort of hate that they're not production quality. Obviously the creator puts a lot of work into their comic but they're not hung up on every panel looking perfect. Even if I tried to do quick sketches I'd get caught up on making it consistently inconsistent.
Funnily enough, the comic had a lot of delays because the creator upped the quality (when he was still working on it by his own). I get what you mean though, takes balls to release something you don't consider to be high quality.
I'd never heard of Tails gets trolled so I stopped the video and looked it up and was not disappointed at all. I love how Chris and the gang know like every popular UA-cam video and anything that was anything is fascinating they always get me to look stuff up.
Tails Gets Trolled has genuinely interesting lore and characters, and very deep conversations and discussions about serious topics later on in the series. I bet Zach would genuinely love to read it.
18:34 Zach gaslights so casually, sometimes I'll be like, "Oh, interesting. I never knew that," and then go back and actually listen to what he just said a second time, and spit out my cinnamon toast crunch flavored milk
actually, the new “chinese fred” was sort of a multi channel ARG that ended with Lucas cruikshank going to taiwan to free the real fred, who was being held prisoner by the Chinese company he sold the channel to. it was pretty neat.
When I started animating for my youtube channel I was trying to get a 2-4 minute animations out every friday. I did it for a little while, but then I also started seeing spots in my eyes like Cory. It freaked me out and when I went to get them checked out by a doctor, she said it was likely caused by stress and overworking. I completely stopped animating for a while, but the spots lasted for like 6-8 months after. I'm all good now, but I'm more conscious about working smarter & just upload whenever it's ready. I think working hard is great, but I learned my lesson about overdoing it. Whatever it is you may do, look after yourselves everyone. Stress is no joke.
when our lovely spaz releases his masterpiece Bowlbo, he should sell the soundtrack on steam for a hefty amount. for real i would pay to have some kick ass music from this guy. and its a reason to support him as well. win win. than again the music he's created for his game might be to sentimental to release like that. idk will be happy regardless
Amazing video guys, I didn't know about the news from Machinima and heard how bad it was. Also as a developer in some way, about game development really well said too. Especially how long it takes and keeping the sanity to make games too :)
Honestly horrible to hear how hard and taxing game making is. "Every developer I know sacrificed their health." I've known for a while that it takes literal years to make games, and that with every update/patch can spontaneously create more bugs, but damn, it just sounds soul crushing. Never become an animator or videogame developer. That's what I'm learning lol.
If they take this series to the actual end of the game this will become a certified iconic masterpiece. They got a little bit of everything in these episodes. Instant classic.
I really liked sanity not included back in the day! I had no idea the creation process behind it was that nightmarish and that Machinima was awful, I just kind of noticed one day that I wasn't seeing any content from them and forgot about it all
Them talking about Sanity not Included is such a throwback. It was such a shock to me when I first found out Lyle was friends with Oney and was in his stuff.
I am absolutely astonished to hear that Zack doesn’t know about Tails Gets Trolled. He’s in for the ride of his life
also my new favorite Cory quote is “become stronger than your bullies so you can kill them later in life”
@@PurplePimp221 For real that actually got a laugh out of me. It's a great Coryism.
@@deadlikedisco4726 so, are we making Coryism a Religion Now
Also When i found Tgt my life peaked, somehow i haven left that peak.
Tails gets Trolled is still going and actually has a physical release with guest artists now. The boys could literally do pages of TGT if they wanted to.
@@twitchyeyess Uh...unless you want to be crucified by us Wormists you BETTER not convert to Coryism.
Every time I pause and come back Corey has already started talking about something else
Hearing them casually talk about topics like animation and Machinima with Cory reminds me so much of the conversations they’d have on sleepycabin
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yeah they have really unique insights on these creative fields that you won't hear anywhere else, mostly because they don't really care about networking in their industries and are normal people lol
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The idea that the trolls misgendered Tails on purpose to troll him further is the best interpretation of that line I could imagine
Just goes to show how timeless Tails got Trolled is
i unironically thought tails was a girl as a child so its even more funny
Isn’t that literally the joke?
@@Alexamenus tails is a transmasc swag short king
What other interpretation is there?
The nightmare cops part is genuinely interesting considering when Jeff was asked where’d he’d liked to be 5 years in the future
Still working on it or he'll blow his brains out, yeah
I’ll never forget the genuine sound of horror in his voice as he realized this game was gonna end up being the next eight years of his life
Link ?
@@Hybattt no
@@Hybattt idk what sleepycabin episode it was but it was a question based one i think
It's weird when Corey actually starts being serious about something you forget that this professional animator is also Corey
Coreys brain seems barely functional until he’s talking about animation or porn, during which he’s like a savant
@@Uhshawdude
It awakens him like sleeper agents hearing their keywords.
@@FilthyCasualty his eyes turn red like the iron giant
His name's Cory.
I'd like to imagine Corey will be completely and totally inept during a meeting and some guy specifically paid to do so will go up to him and whisper "Amy Rose farts" which makes Corey instantly go into professional mode.
I love how in every Sonic Heroes episode, they passionately rant about something serious/semi-serious at least once
Something like videos about gaming, websplorers and real life serious stuff about they’re existence would be holy trinity for us. And this thing had all of them 👏
you can genuinely hear the distress in chris' voice when he talks about game development. and the fear in zach's voice hearing about it
Alternative title: The boys cope after being ruthlessly and mercilessly trolled by Maker studios
What the hell is Maker?
And Machinma
And Newgrounds
@@mega_bird700 Maker Studios was a UA-camr ''agency'', which was later acquired by Disney and subsequently shut down.
@@MisterDutch93 I remember GameGrumps was acquired by them half way into the Jon era (or at least near the end) glad that Maker and all these youtuber agencies are gone
Tails Get Trolled is still an ongoing comic - the level of lore and worldbuilding at this point is genuinely quite impressive
The artwork has improved significantly as well.
@@carltheshivan That's because the "current" art isn't done by the original creator, it's all fans that are continuing the comic but adhering to his script.
@@ExaltedUriel Sounds similar to how Murata a professional manga artist came in and remade ONE's cruddy looking webcomic One Punch-Man into a manga with bonkers looking art based on his storyboards because he found it cool and funny. I wish there were more collaborations like this for online creations.
Damn homie turned a negative into a positive
@@islandboy9381 is this actually the origin of One Punch Man? a crudely drawn comic that got fan re-drawn by a professional artist and it exploded?
Nice to hear Oney talk about his game realistically speaking. Hope he hasn't spread himself too thin on it and just keep steadily working on it.
They should unironically record Zach reacting to tails gets trolled. Its not very different from that websplorer series, except it's genuine content now instead of political reddit posts
I AGREE SO MUCH
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@@s3dchr oOoOOooOoOo whatcha gonna do, take my chocolate milk from me?
@@s3dchr you'll notice I edited it btw lol, ty
tails gets trolled by the republicans
Oh dang, Edd Gould was partnered with Machinima and they were continuing to collect AdSense from Eddsworld after he died? Really goes to show how many people they screwed over.
Tails Gets Trolled is an actual unironic masterpiece. That one iconic shot of Tails has that pure raw emotion expressed through the simple art that I, as an aspiring artist, still have trouble trying to capture in my own work. Cory and Chris is right about people who some would label as autistic or socially stunted. Some are notorious for being absolute geniuses because they don't have that filter most people have.
This series has been one of my favorites so far. Anything with Cory and Zach AND you throw sonic into the mix??
It's fucking magic that this channel has kept going THIS strong. Any other LP channels pale in comparison.
@@miguelbranquinho7235 the magic is in the past all these guys have had together and where they’re at now. Like for example them talking about getting fucked by Machinma in the past and everything looked bleak for sure but just look at them now! Chris has a successful let’s play channel and a ducking GAME, Zach has a show on adult swim, Cory.. is in a band and doing what he loves.. it just warms my heart. I’m so glad the whole crew is doing well.. I hope Stamper can get his head right tho.
It entices my closeted cringe mindset
@@themigtyboosh It's great to know that the people whose content you grew up with are doing well. These guys deserve it. They put out so much genuine content. My high school days wouldn't have been the same without them (and NG in general).
Tomar > Cory
"Become stronger than your bullies so you can kill them later in life".
Wish they talked more animation and game dev stuff like in this episode. I always really enjoy hearing about their thought processes and techniques as well as all the horrid shit they had to go through. Fascinating stuff
Prolly can't say too much about projects they work on now, but war stories on their old stuff would be great but they also told a lot about that on sleepycast
@@islandboy9381 That’s very true, I like hearing about the older stuff a little more anyway. I know they’re probably locked by NDAs by anything from the past couple years so they can’t really mention much lol
I doubt Cory remembers this, but I was at Philly Pico Day in 2019 and I got to play a little bit of Nightmare Cops at the NG Office (I even drew on the wall!), it was so endearing just hearing Cory talk about the game and seeing how much progress was made on it. It's definitely something I look forward to, I know these things take time, and you can clearly see the passion dedicated towards it. Hope you guys don't get injured tailbones from sitting and working all day.
Also I don't know how far you guys are going to get into Sonic Heroes but a bit of a note, besides the flight height and distance cap, Fly is stupidly overpowered. Get your Fly characters to Level 3 and you can take care of most enemies with the basic Thunder Shoot. Even the final Egg Emperor boss can be done in less than 3 minutes if you spam the Fly character on them because they'll automatically target the weakspots. Source: I just beat this game last night and it was a miserable experience.
Oh man, hearing them rant about Machinima is so cathartic for anyone that was regularly browsing UA-cam around the 2010-ish era, and this is coming from an outsider that had no interaction with the network at all. Just being a young edgy gamer type and seeing this huge channel putting out so many hilarious videos without realizing they were just sourcing from actually talented content creators, it was amazing. I subscribed immediately when I saw Grand Theft Auto 4 montages, mostly done by Ben Buja, and just falling in love with the false concept that this was a big collaborative company with hilarious people making good videos. For some reason a subscription felt more important back then, like you were openly supporting a thing you enjoyed when there were far less users on the site (remember when everyone's subscriptions were public on their channel pages, along with UA-cam friends and public channel comments? Man, I remember seeing a lot of depraved shit on there, mostly from my own friends after we found each other's channels and started messing with each other.)
Then after subscribing and seeing a new video literally every 5 minutes in my subscriptions box was the big hint that this wasn't a "real" channel, it was some monstrosity robot just feeding into the Call of Duty, GTA, Minecraft, Skate 3, and Halo crowd, while any content deviating away from that would get dislike bombed by children like myself. Even more professionally filmed live action stuff like RedLetterMedia's Half in the Bag would go up on Machinima and kids would storm it for not being Minecraft. It was so weird seeing all these UA-camrs, some that would later become huge, not really understanding the site and getting suckered into that stuff because they either had their own website to fall back on, or just got duped into it like discussed in this video. And then you had me just waiting for the next GTA 4 Funny Moments through literally thousands of uploads without realizing I could have sourced the actual content creator's channel and had a way more concise experience over there. I'm genuinely sorry so many people got scammed into that shitty business back in the day, but I'm glad that they're free to talk about it now that the MCN concept is dead and probably illegal (or at least a huge TOS violation), seriously fuck them for putting creators through that.
I seriously don't remember that much of a channel's content getting deleted, and much of it lost forever. There's still some highlighted videos on there in my memory that I remember enjoying with no surviving reuploads. What a vacuum, I still haven't fully grasped the concept of newer UA-cam users that are completely unaware of that channel, it was such a titan that felt like it had its reach in every corner, and thankfully we came to realize how damaging it was.
Yeah, that's the magic of silencing and oppressing content creators who speak out against you.
I remember very fondly that the people who had gripes with Machinima couldn't even speak out against them.
Imagine being like 16-17 years old and your passion project suddenly liquidates into real money. That shit can get any child acting unwise and Machinima *knew* about this. They made bank off of child labor.
Even as an outsider, I knew how bad machinma was. I know they talked about it in the season finale podcast episode because for Machinma it was predatory to get this 15 year old kid with 10k subs and get all of their money and of course they’re not going to talk to them. Their biggest clients have 20-40 million subs.
I know a lot of people had to threaten league action. But they would do the 30 day grace period to fuck them over. So they would wait until the last day to ask the lawyer for more clarification and stuff.
They were horrible. Fuck Machinma dude.
Hearing all this and the Eddsworld reveal makes Chris that much more of a hero to this field of online animators at the time in my eyes, it was truly the gateway to knowing Machinima's true predatory nature for the public but through a satirical, understandable way.
Why did you write this whole thing?
Completely unaware of it hitting Skate 3 content. Fucking unbelievable.
honestly the whole Machinima-Maker rant was really interesting, its old news now but its crazy how fucking greasy they were
I remember when Machinima was just blowing up, I was in middle school. I remember kids thought being partnered with Machinima was "making it big". This was like 2007-09? We had no idea. Thank God I never fell for it.
What's weird is that Oney attributes the video to Edd Goulds post mortem contract... but Edd hadn't died yet when it was actually uploaded.
Memory problems i suppose
@@absolutezerochill2700wasn’t he in the hospital or like in the process of dying? I may be misremembering but I know it was close
The funny thing about Tails Gets Trolled is that it's still going. As the people in the comments pointed out, I was very mistaken on the circumstances. Check their comments for information not from a complete *growl*
Almost none of this is true, TGT is still being headed by the creator and his brother but it now has a full artist team built by the community and has gotten increasingly serious and complex.
dude you are SO wrong dude, why are you SOOOO WROOONG, is making me mad,, grrr
Oh thank god, that line "Bowlbo IS gonna take so much longer," knowing that he is still working on it makes me excited.
As someone who makes games, develops Minecraft mods and recently started making UA-cam content, This video was truly one of the best things I could have spent my time on today. Very happy to have gotten a peek into these guys heads and hear about their mistakes along the way.
Edit: I made a game and I worked thousands of hours on it over nine months and it almost killed me.
Best of luck to you friend
Zach - "You better leave me alone you damn, dirty troll!", another one of Zach's iconic quotes.
I would pay a lot of money for a soundboard entirely consisting of Zach saying Chris Chan quotes
I don't know who you are, but you need to be NICE to me RIGHT NOW!
That's Chris hand iconic quote
7:00 I imagine whenever there's a minutes-long jump-cut like this that it's because they all just suddenly go completely silent and the editor has to skip over it.
It was actually because Chris and Cory got into a very heated (and very racist) debate, whilst Zach stood idly by
It's amazing to hear that Chris managed to make Machinima lose their shit
Tails Gets Trolled freaking ROCKS!
Even in death Machinima still wanted to inflict pain on the world. *Every* single video they've uploaded, all 5000 of them became privated for absolutely no reason. Keep in mind even their youtube videos going as far back as 2007 are now flat out unviewable.
There’s without a doubt a catalogue of the content, maybe not all of it but you’ll find a lot of it scattered around the internet
Also, I don’t think it’s malicious. Likely has to do with the money it would earn, and without a business that money can’t be distributed to whomever it’s meant to be given to and there isn’t anyone to accept said money.. also likely that whoever owns it, despite it being defunct, wants to prevent the content from being used illegally
Cory is genuinely an amazing artist, Lyle was and still is a hilarious, unapologetically high octane man of hilarity and Chris and this small goblin that crawled into the studio are pretty hilarious. They might have suffered in the past, but I love this group so much. it shaped them into hilarious men with silly stories.
The Machinima contracts were absolutely insane
I think the Super Best Friends had like a fucking 25 year contract, and they gradually uploaded less machinima-only content over time to the point where it was like one video a year
I still remember towards the end of machinimas life SBFP was just the channel banner because it was the only thing they had left lol
Expect nothing. Deliver less. That's machina inspired.
It’s gonna be really sad if this series and CIV end and we don’t see Corey on the channel for another two years
This series has been giving me major Sleepycast vibes and I love it :)
Honestly if you want a change from games, you could do a sort of narrated readthrough of Tails Gets Trolled. It would be hilarious.
My bottom teeth have been quivering in suspense hoping Chris will do something like *GameBoy Advance SP Blue Edition Creepypasta* again
We need a live reaction of Zack watching the whole series
Hours long video of Zack just screaming
Lmoa
Zach.
This was massively informative guys, thank you. Those mistakes from not knowing when you're new to something are so true. So much can be just not knowing what to ask and how to communicate early on, and getting sucked into what you think is an opportunity. Not many people who've been through it are willing to put the information out there to help the next guy, so again, thanks.
Man, maybe this is too much, but i really find your guys stories about how much you've suffered working as artists and animators is really inspiring. Really makes me annoyed when people consider art and creative works to be "not real work" when even a simple project can be a massive amount of work.
Cory and Chris really undersold Tales Gets Trolled by just describing the very beginning and making it sound like a one-off. Zach needs to know how deep the rabbit hole goes.
They said enough to get zach interested, why spoil the greatness that is to come
hearing them talk passionately about animation and game making and then in previous episodes talking about fart fetish and poop fetishes is truly the OneyPlays experience
That’s very nice of Corey to praise Jeff hard work on Nightmare cops. It sucks people are harassing him. Let’s hope more people appreciate his dedication.
UGH! These cops are a _nightmare!_
This is one of the best Oneyplays series yet. Everything from their ramblings to the dark history of those UA-cam startups. I’m very thankful for this channel, only let’s play I’ve enjoyed for years.
I don't envy people who get into game design. It sounds like an insanely ambitious task even for total geniuses just because of how involved and draining it is. You have to be a certain kind of insane in order to not hate yourself in the process.
Wht do u mean by hatin yourself in d process? Just wonderin wht u mean.
@@DonManuelConLeonsJacket ask any artist and they’ll know what I mean lol
All those things machinima did with bad contract terms and exploiting young people not knowing the value of their work would probably make a court decide those contracts they created were unconscionable. Those contracts were potentially unenforceable and could have been challenged in court but litigation is expensive so a beginner animator/youtuber probably would not have the resources to challenge it easily.
I wish machinima let creators reupload the videos they made. the wolf among us manslayer videos were really funny but now they are gone.
As someone hoping to get into game dev, this episode was incredibly disheartening lol.
Just keep your scope reasonable. I'm starting my first as a hobby and its a pretty fun experience. That said, I started under the assumption that it'd take ~3 months and I'm nearly 6 in with likely another 6 to go. They weren't lying about that. If you're interested, you should try it. Worst that happens is you don't like it and move on to something else
The best advice I can give as someone also getting into game development, keep your scope small and create a game design document prior to starting development. It's best to write out everything you want in your game first and be as methodical as possible, that way you can avoid falling into the trap of feature creep during development.
We all gonna make it breh
Bruh just try making ur game in dreams(ps4) then see if u enjoy it or not
I have a couple of friends that work for Iron Galaxy and they seem to enjoy their work. I think the experience varies if you are solo vs working with a small crew vs working for a company.
Tails Get Trolled is fucking amazing. The story time threads on /v/ gave me a profound appreciation of his dialogue and autism. Most writers could only dream of writing dialogue half as well flowing as Tails, Sonic, and Shadow talking about trolling
Game Development was my dream job, but knowing what I know now, its a crazy amount of work. The coding alone is insane. So many different systems all interacting and all need to be built in code.
I'd play an hour long rpg maker game written by Zach.
"it's when you're young and full of piss and vinegar", wise words from our beloved zachary
Poor Jeff, I miss him and his life-giving laughter
Love watching my stomach ripple like idyllic pond when these guys make me belly laught
Hearing all of these old war stories behind the cartoons is really interesting.
I wanna see a Machinima reunion just to share stories on how awful they truly were. Did Lyle with the other guy get it easy?
I'm not sure what was better; the weird ramblings or the actual life lessons. Yet another banger of a vid tho.
It feels inherently wrong to mention tails gets trolled and not mention how absolutely crazy and great it gets as it goes on
What I would give to play Zach's childhood RPG Maker games lol
I had no idea about that thing with Machinima trying to cash out on Ed Gould's popularity after his death because they refused to release him of his contract despite his passing.
I always get excited whenever they talk about animating and game development; listening to their experiences is so informative and enlightening to someone like myself who inspires to become an animator. Many thanks to you guys and even to the rest of the Sleepy Cast for all your words of wisdom on the topics.
Almost impressed by the fact that Cory thought Tails Gets Trolled was sincere, but Cory has a generally warped perception of reality so it's not surprising (and half the internet thought TGT was not ironic when it was getting big, to be fair).
I think the actual creator said that he isn't on the spectrum and he was just really young and had bad grammar when he made the comic; he's 25 now if anyone's wondering
It's surreal hearing the boys talk about product development now that one of them has a product on the dream network of every animator.
An owl with a thirty foot long neck is actually fucking terrifying.
Those things watch you man.
Cory if you jump out that window you can just forget about getting those bags of sugar.
-Machinima
This has gotta be the most self aware and articulate I've heard Cory be. Keep eating those red pills, man!
i don't understand how 40% of corey related content on oneyplays is making fun of autistic people when he went to a dozen separate mcdonald's because he wanted all of the sonic the hedgehog happy meal toys
You can't make fun of them properly unless you're one of them
To know your target, you must be your target.
Autism is to Corey what being gay is to homophobic closeted people
being reminded of that makes me sick to my stomach
Projection
I've got to admit I envy the freedom something like Tails Gets Trolled has. I spent all day working on placeholder game assets that nobody is ever going to see and honestly even with the unnecessary level of work that went in I still sort of hate that they're not production quality.
Obviously the creator puts a lot of work into their comic but they're not hung up on every panel looking perfect. Even if I tried to do quick sketches I'd get caught up on making it consistently inconsistent.
Funnily enough, the comic had a lot of delays because the creator upped the quality (when he was still working on it by his own). I get what you mean though, takes balls to release something you don't consider to be high quality.
that machinima story was really interesting. so much deep lore to discover here on oneyplays.
I'd never heard of Tails gets trolled so I stopped the video and looked it up and was not disappointed at all. I love how Chris and the gang know like every popular UA-cam video and anything that was anything is fascinating they always get me to look stuff up.
The videos are actually fan made dubs, hopefully you got around to reading the actual comic, unless I've read this wrong.
I'm so fucking mad they've made more progress in Sonic Heroes than 1 story in Sonic Adventure 2.
Is your fist clenched in anger and fear
Are you actually angry?
I'm one pissed off gamer right now.
Cory animated sanity. Thank you for your work cory it was amazing
"and when nightmare cops releases everyone can go make porn of it" youve already done that cory
Tails Gets Trolled has genuinely interesting lore and characters, and very deep conversations and discussions about serious topics later on in the series. I bet Zach would genuinely love to read it.
Yeah seriously, it only gets better as it goes on.
Who needs The Nostalgia Critic to review this game when the best review of all time already exists of it - the one done by Game Dude!
I cant believe they didn't mention Your Favorite Martian making a comeback at all so far
Big the cat putting all the supportive flags on his facebook profile photo took me OUT
I love that Cory thought the creator of Tails Gets Trolled is foreign. He's also from Missouri lol
I've been loving these Advice From Uncle Zach segments!
I love hearing Machinima stories, that channel was like the plague on youtube back then, and a few channels i liked died because of them
Ill be rooting for all my newgrounds boys till the day I die
18:34 Zach gaslights so casually, sometimes I'll be like, "Oh, interesting. I never knew that," and then go back and actually listen to what he just said a second time, and spit out my cinnamon toast crunch flavored milk
actually, the new “chinese fred” was sort of a multi channel ARG that ended with Lucas cruikshank going to taiwan to free the real fred, who was being held prisoner by the Chinese company he sold the channel to. it was pretty neat.
The Taiwan Ark was really bold move on Lucas's part I was glad to see that it paid off though. Really added to his character development
Tails gets trolled is one of my favorite webcomics ever and It's still going very strong.
Seeing Cory miss checkpoints is killing me
Still really excited about bowlbo, just hope it gets finished before I get hit by a car or something
When I started animating for my youtube channel I was trying to get a 2-4 minute animations out every friday. I did it for a little while, but then I also started seeing spots in my eyes like Cory. It freaked me out and when I went to get them checked out by a doctor, she said it was likely caused by stress and overworking. I completely stopped animating for a while, but the spots lasted for like 6-8 months after. I'm all good now, but I'm more conscious about working smarter & just upload whenever it's ready. I think working hard is great, but I learned my lesson about overdoing it. Whatever it is you may do, look after yourselves everyone. Stress is no joke.
You gotta love the way Cory always runs straight past checkpoints then immediately dies
Man, I'm so exited to see bulbo in the future! Wish you the best of luck Chris
I’ve only just realised now this was the game I played when I was a kid. Assumed Ide played a later one because I remembered it looking so much better
Coulda been the CRT effect?
the degree of effortlessness with which Cory dunks Big into the abortion advocacy category was truly sublime
i love that this was probably recorded in advance and have not yet seen the cream the slug fan art
when our lovely spaz releases his masterpiece Bowlbo, he should sell the soundtrack on steam for a hefty amount. for real i would pay to have some kick ass music from this guy. and its a reason to support him as well. win win. than again the music he's created for his game might be to sentimental to release like that. idk will be happy regardless
Amazing video guys, I didn't know about the news from Machinima and heard how bad it was. Also as a developer in some way, about game development really well said too. Especially how long it takes and keeping the sanity to make games too :)
Honestly horrible to hear how hard and taxing game making is. "Every developer I know sacrificed their health." I've known for a while that it takes literal years to make games, and that with every update/patch can spontaneously create more bugs, but damn, it just sounds soul crushing.
Never become an animator or videogame developer. That's what I'm learning lol.
I like this group and this series a lot
(But I’m still waiting on Adam’s return so they can finish Undertale)
If they take this series to the actual end of the game this will become a certified iconic masterpiece. They got a little bit of everything in these episodes. Instant classic.
I really liked sanity not included back in the day! I had no idea the creation process behind it was that nightmarish and that Machinima was awful, I just kind of noticed one day that I wasn't seeing any content from them and forgot about it all
I was so surprised to hear what Machinima did to Edd's channel, that's some evil shit
Lazerbot is definitely self aware. He does not take the trolls seriously and it was meant to be a joke on people who overreact to trolling.
Them talking about Sanity not Included is such a throwback. It was such a shock to me when I first found out Lyle was friends with Oney and was in his stuff.
The slinky owl head exists in Alice in Wonderland, but it's an accordion. Well done, Cory's weirdly specific, nearly there but not quite brain.
4:19 "Big the cat is the political one."
Cory: "He's the political symbol? For what...abortions?"
LMAO! Underrated line!