The Fascinating Future of LEGO Pirates
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- In the 2020s, fans have been fortunate enough to receive LEGO pirate sets, in the form of not only a couple of remakes - those being Pirates of Barracuda Bay and the Eldorado Fortress, but also a Pirate Ship put out under the Creator theme, and a few GWPs. But that leaves the question - what's next for the LEGO Pirates property? This is The Fascinating Future of LEGO Pirates.
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This video unfortunately marks the end of my LEGO Pirates retrospect for the time being, and I'd like to thank you all for your support.
This series has transformed my channel for the better, and has challenged me to make the best videos I possibly can. Fear not, Pirates content isn't going anywhere - tier lists, reviews, livestreams of building legendary sets, and other commentary videos will be hitting your subscription boxes soon.
Again, thank you so much.
Really nice look at the pirates theme and the retrospective.
I imagine that Pirates themed sets are with us from Lego as appeasement vs. Lego going to launch 🚀 a super theme.
Lego does a lot of market research and my guess is there isn’t an overwhelming demand or ask for the theme. Hence, the Creator set being out, like you surmise while Lego just released a nice Pirate set here and there.
The only true way we would know is through knowing their sales on those sets........and I don’t believe the sales for that them is going to warrant LEGO to create bountiful amounts.
Aside from Adventurers and Castle, this theme was also the face of LEGO.
Absolutely. Truly a legendary property. What's your favorite era/faction?
@@OurToyWorld Honestly, it’s hard to pick one.
Adventurers were EEEEPIIIIC!!! 🤠
I agree🏴☠️
Deffinitely redcoats for me. We could use them as english napoleonic troops as well using horses from the knights theme. The early 90s was an amazing time for lego
2009 pirates are goated
real
Fr. Hope you enjoyed my retrospect on that theme from a few months back!
El dorado remake made me greedy for more imperial stuff.
We need a pirates theme that has the quality of the barracuda bay and EDF but has smaller sets too.
What we need is a pirates theme that actually has midsize sets again. Those seem to be the lifeblood of LEGO themes, not the big centerpieces or the small impulse buys.
You can forget islanders, Lego wont revisit stereotypical depictions of indigenous cultures for various good reasons. But lego would do a heap of market research into who is buying what, and It would seem that younger audiences arn't generally interested in ongoing unlicensed themes, unless there is some sort of app or media hook attached. So it seems likely that the classic themes will only appear as large adult sets or the odd gwp. As for the space mega theme that is a bunch of interpretations of "space" but there has really only been one classic space set, one classic gwp and two other fun gwp that would sort of fit the classic space theme. Maybe at best you might get some sort of sailing, or high seas mega theme that would have a few nods to classic pirates but I don't think we will see a classic themed set of any description for a $10 price point on store shelves any time soon.
Imo it’s very sad they nowadays only make these fun themes with large 200$+ sets. We need proper playset lines for the children
Facts, what was your favorite theme growing up?
@@OurToyWorld unlicensed? Knights/Castle. Licensed? Star Wars
@@Kronos327 Good picks.
Sad to say it, but I feel like lego won't remake imperial soldiers or Islanders because they would be deemed "too offensive"
Islanders sure, but imperial soldiers were in the recent El Dorado fortress. Unless you mean the red coats which I still think wouldn't be off the table seeing as we got a German pilot in Indiana Jones.
Now that you mention it, maybe they would. And yes, I meant the redcoats.
@@cyberman05 half of them were literal dolls tho, so yea, ain't no Imperial Armada for the fans
I miss this theme a lot! Here's hoping it returns one day; it does seem like there's some limiting factor on new pirate releases but I appreciate the designers using pirate elements whenever they can so the molds remain available whenever Pirates does return.
I’m sure one day we’ll see it return. It’s only a matter of time, I hope.
100% agree. I want LEGO to go all out with their next attempt. They’ve played it way too safe recently, more sets like barracuda bay is what we need, more original locations/ships/scenarios.
I love this attitude, tbh.
LEGO goes all out for themes like Dreamzzz with shows, plenty of multimedia, and a HUGE marketing rollout.
Give us a solid lineup of pirates sets, all at once. That’s it. We don’t need no fancy TV show, no aggressive multimedia push. They seem too comfortable taking risks that everyone can agree is stupid, but won’t give iconic properties a chance to hit shelves again. Make it make sense
Pirates Bay is one of the best Lego sets ever
I bought mine a year ago and still haven't built it smh
Lego did also release that Pirate themed rollercoaster.
I'd love to see another full on non franchised Pirates line, but I'd welcome set concepts that haven't been explored before. What about a pirates base on an island that is mostly hidden inside a massive cave? A ship that uses oars well as sails?
I could see a series of nanoscale ships being released almost like the architecture line - famous ships could include the Golden Hind, the Mayflower, or more generically a viking longship, a trireme, etc.
I love the idea of concepts that haven’t been explored so far. That’s what made the original run so exciting
Also in the year 2023 we receive the Scary Pirate Island set in October, a few months after the release of Eldorado Fortress
Seems to me that Lego knows the value of this theme, and is clearly keeping it's powder dry!
Great video as always bro! Great content & very informational! Have a great week!🔥🤙🏼
Thanks Brickman, you too!
I’ve been building a city for years and have been reluctant to start a new theme for reasons of time and money. But recently I decided to start a pirate build, so I’m hoping they keep sets coming even if at a slow pace
Sounds awesome
I don’t think we’ll ever get new islanders. Same reason companies hesitate with making native americans etc. the risk of beeing canceled due to „racism“ is to high
I miss it. I wish it went better
Yes!!! Another pirates video!!!!
Please don’t kick me out of the Lego pirate fan club, but I bought a Pirates of Barracuda Bay knockoff set from AliExpress today😭😩I am just ITCHING FOR MORE PIRATES. I am glad I snagged the Eldorado Fortress, but man. I love Lego Pirates and Lego Pirates of the Caribbean so much!
You’re still in it, don’t worry. Hope this video didn’t trigger that purchase lol
@@OurToyWorld No but it did make me feel validated and understood in my Lego pirate addiction! Haha
Great video Richie! I can’t wait to see you at Brickworld Chicago!
Thanks Oaktown!
The return of the islanders
Look at Lego in 2024
You think they'd bring back those depictions of native Americans?
A reference, something in designers hands only fans get yeah but a full on set.
Imagine the boardroom meetings pitching that and controversy afterwards
I'd argue that LEGO Islanders was relatively tasteful compared to what it _could_ have been. They were portrayed as heroic for the most part.
Also, while the LEGO pirates theme does take place on and around a fictional archipelago in the Caribbean, their use of catamarans, outrigger canoes and "crab claw" sail rigging, as well as the mask and shield imagery makes the Islanders theme resemble pacific islanders more than anything.
The islanders are very clearly not offensive in any way, they are yellow in the pirates world, i doubt there would be an issue with them bringing them back
@@Theworldisscrewed bro has never seen twitter in his life
@@n_ex13thats a good thing if anything else.
@@Theworldisscrewed true, true
Great video. As a collector of Pirates from 1989 through 2002, I was totally vested in the theme. I would enjoy a return to Imperials and Islanders. I missed out on 2009, 2013, and 2015 sets.
Thanks PBJ. Any plan to purchase those 09/15 sets when you get the chance? I know you have the retro stuff, which is obviously preferred by most, but why not have more pirates
No plans to purchase the Pirate sets that I missed. 😢 There are too many current sets released in various themes that consume my LEGO budget.
Been buying lego pirate sets since 2009.
Just bought the 2009 Brickbread's Bounty again recently.
That’s awesome
Hope you’ve enjoyed my retrospects on both the 2009 and 2015 themes!
Unfortunately, I have some info that leads me to believe the Eldorado remake sold poorly. Hence why it's already gone. As a result, I don't think Lego has as much faith in Pirates as they do with Castle, or even Space. The Imperials specifically under perform, hence why we get Pirate Ships, Lego can count on those to sell. Imperial or other faction sets... They struggle unfortunately.
Most likely correct ......
"Hence why it's already gone"
Have you even bothered to check? It's still available on LEGO's website, and heck, I've seen it on shelves at a Super Target of all places despite it being labeled as a "LEGO Store Exclusive". It's not gone, it's still very much around.
@@VestedUTuber It's retiring at the end of the year, they are just getting rid of stock.
@@MikeyJProductions
Dude, LEGO typically runs their sets for around 1-1/2 to 2 years _regardless_ of sales. That's not an early retirement. A LOT of sets released around the same time are retiring at the end of this year.
@@VestedUTuberif it is retiring after a year and a half then it’s clear that it sold poorly. Unfortunately the theme will be seen as increasingly niche by Lego. This is also backed up by Ominous Isle only half selling out on the Bricklink designer program.
Hear me out….. Lego SPACE Pirates…
I’ll take anything, at this point. Sounds wild but I wouldn’t be opposed to it 👀
Good high quality vid I love the pirates and castle theme
Thanks!
FINALLY, AN UNDERSTANDING LEGO PIRATE FAN, AS A KID I COULD NEVER GET PIRATES
It’s been a tough time, for us newer pirate fans.
7:10 I have the Pirate Ship that has the skull in the back and the mast falls over, I also have a lot of those Imperial Ships as well, I purchased them in the 90's.
What are your thoughts on that ship? I get the play features are a big part of it, but idk, I just don’t really like it, tbh.
What’s your favorite faction?
I daily hope for new pirate sets i grew up on pirates and miss it!
One day ☝️
El dorado remake made me greedy for more imperial stuff.
well that makes two of us!
They need to bring back the Islanders series of sets.
They really do, hope you enjoyed my retrospective on that line!
Ominous Isle is magnificent
The bricklink program is a good way to introduce some new pirate sets for die hard fans. The current series 2 set “ominous isle” is great looking. If they did a slightly fantasy style pirates, like pirates of the Caribbean, with sea monsters, and mystery locations (similar to the castle sets with trolls in 2010s, borrowing from lord of the rings) then they could expand on ideas!
I’m still debating whether or not I’m going to pick that one up. I saw it in person at brickworld Chicago and it looks a lot better in person
Themes will die when there are no small sets to get kids an opportunity to get interested.
Precisely ... everyone says the kids aren't interested, but why not put out another line and see how it does? They take enough risks with these garbage TV shows most people are sick of, just give us a solid lineup of sets and I'm sure they'll do well.
i love the new el dorado fortress. man though when you put it up against pobb you can't help but notice how great that pre inflation set was in terms of value
It looks so tiny compared to POBB. It’s crazy!
I was just thinking one day and I thought, what if lego made a pirates game like the skywalker saga but also like sea of theives. Cant get it out of my head now.
One day, perhaps
all the remakes are really good. Even though I am not very hot for pirates themselves, I got 2 eldorados (may get a 3rd) , got 2 of the creator ships and even though I missed the barracuda bay, I am scouting for a decent priced one to get it as well.
I really hope they will make new creator sets for castle and pirates after the current ones get out of print this year (and I really REALLY hope they make a normal line for both as well as at least 1 or 2 remakes each year ) .
Damn. You’re dedicated. How do you have el dorado set up? I’m fascinated to see how that modular aspect plays out with multiples
@@OurToyWorld I have my eldorados sealed in box ... I have no more space and I am eyeing a house (so I try not to indulge too much before I move). However my plan would be to have one of them as the compact model and the other 2 around it, as the spread out model, with slight modifications so it can actually clip in together with the main model. Basically a fort surrounded by some linear fortifications.
One of the ships I plan to make a sea serpent out of it if possible (and if they don't bother making one themselves soon.
What if in future Lego would added a new Pirate faction which would be Asian theme pirates based on China(Ladrones) and(or) Japan(Wokou)
I would love to see again the Lego Armada theme. I remember that Playmobil did something similar several years ago, and it's easy to see why.
The classic red coat is overused, while the XVI "Spanish" uniform is always a nice, different and stylish choice to change things a little
I agree!
there was only ONE ship in each of the last two pirate themes!!!!! that's like making speed champions with no CARS!
Good point, wish we got some imperial vessels
7:20 bro, every couple of years???????? IM GONNA DIE BEFORE I GET FUCK ALL WHAT THE FUCK DUDE!!!!!!! Just annual pirate set releases ARE MANDATORY.
I dont really care if the future of lego pirate is huge or not. I am just begging lego to make a new empirial flag ship or a bit smaller of a reboot of the flag ship
I’d love that tbh
Haven’t gotten imperial ship since 2010.
Quite a shame
I really wish they stop screwing around with Castle and Pirates and having them in big sets.
I agree, this whole “every remake is a GWP or a multi hundred dollar set” is BS
I just want my morion helmets back
Based
Dont forget the big Pirate minifigure as a tribute only available in Denmark, home of the brick
I want that set so badly. I probably subconsciously excluded it since I want it so bad
@@OurToyWorld i feel you. Best is to find a seller from Denmark selling it for a reasonable price. That's what i did.
Its so worth it. Especially when you put down the real minifigure in exact same pose next to it. ❤️
@@xavierg.8809 I love the normal up scale minifigure. I know I’d love this one. May be able to find a viewer who lives out there who could hook it up for a fair price. How much did you pay, if I can ask
@@OurToyWorld that's the best solution ye. Someone from Denmark. I got mine for 95 euro.
@@xavierg.8809 Not bad tbh
Make more piratesss
When considering spacemageddon, something like that unfortunately seems unlikely for pirates, as space is more unlimited and is the future (more open designs.) However it might be an option for castle, as that spans a long time in history and could get popular mixed with fantasy elements.
I would like to see a “Space Pirates sun theme” that would be cool ......
A full theme sounds nice but like in reality who'd buy it. Older afols ofen have larger amounts of disposable income, smaller sets don't appeal as much or make as much profit. Kids? Kids want a pirate ship a government ship and smash them together.
Those kids invested enough to get a fort are probably already lego fans that would spend that money on something else lego anyways.
Corvettes (aka midsized to small sized ships) are still something that would sell competiting at a lower price point but any other set.
Agreed
"Corvettes (aka midsized to small sized ships) are still something that would sell competiting at a lower price point but any other set."
So much this. It's no coincidence that 2009 and 2015, the two worst-performing waves of pirates ignoring the 4+ line, were lacking in midsized sets and didn't have a single small ship to their name. Pirate themes needs their sloops, ketches and yawls to survive, brigs, barques and full-rigs are too expensive to carry a line and small impulse-buy playsets don't have much of an effect. And the mid-sized island and base sets don't have quite the same draw as ships.
Heck, if LEGO is really hesitant on releasing a mid-sized ship based on the hull pieces they could always use the cargo ship from the El Dorado Fortress rerelease as the basis for other smaller vessels. It's actually perfectly sized for a short-ranged sloop or ketch used by pirates based out of an island hideout.
For me, Lego simply equalled the pirates and castle themes plus maybe space.
As for how they could continue to successfully keep the theme alive.. there are a million ways they could do it. I would like to see them partially reintroduce old theme factions, remaking a few old sets and filling in the gaps with one or two new sets. Do that once a year or so and the landscape will look a lot more interesting.
Exactly! There’s so much they can do.
they look amazing, i only have some legos from star wars, XD
Great video, just ONE issue... Stop picking on the Brick Bounty, lol. It's a NICE ship, and IMO has some NICE improvements over Brickbeards Bounty. I personally give them a tie, with each one having things better than other. Both are nice ships.
At this point, I may as well pick up Brickbeard’s bounty so I can form a more accurate opinion, lol- I’m serious about that.
I value your opinion, obviously, not only with the collection you have, but your knowledge of the property. Overall though- what do you prefer. 2009, or 2015’s pirate theme?
@@OurToyWorld The 2009 theme had the Imperial Flagship, so that CLEARLY pushes it over 2015. If you take away that set... It's closer than you would think. I'd probably still give it to 2009, but only by a hair. They were pretty interchangeable IMO. It's the Flagship that REALLY made 2009 special.
As a Pirates fan, I'd take 2020 to present releases (even without a proper wave), over 2015 and 2009. With 80's and 90's being #1 overall of course.
Do really really need a re- do of a re- do of a Star War set?
Unless it’s better than what came before, no.
El Dorado fortress 2024 is one favorite sets
Im hoping purates gets a big glowup like space is getting rn
You want a mega theme, or just a normal theme by itself
@@OurToyWorld Just anything really, but I looked more into what they did for space and love how they can all interact (although technic dropped the ball a bit)
Especially since retro castle still gets sets sometimes but very little pirates
Speaking of connection, still surprised they advertised pirates of barracuda bay as compatible with el dorado as that set hasn't been buyable for years
@@shinyrayquaza9 that is a very good point. Especially considering the fact pirates of barracuda bay retired a year and a half before.
@@OurToyWorld I was considering getting it off aliexpress when I had space since that ones pricy aftermarket. I did want it prior anyway.
I'm not so confident Lego will continue to pump out new pirates sets sadly I think the best chance we have as pirates fans in the near future is the bricklink designer programme series 5. So many great pirates designs hopefully one or two make it 🤞
I'm afraid you could be right. I'm really curious to see if LEGO continues with releasing a retro remake or two a year, or if they suddenly decide to stop. I for one wouldn't be surprised if the Creator Pirate Ship may be the only pirate set we see for another 5, maybe even 10 years.
So, the future of pirates... I don't see it having one, or at least not in the form we know and love. LEGO doesn't seem to be willing to do original themes anymore, at least not unless they can make it a huge multimedia "big bang" theme like they did with Ninjago, Chima, Nexo Knights, Monkey Kid or DreamZzz, or if they want to once again try to experiment with augmented reality like with Hidden Side or Vidyo. What I think is most likely going to happen is a slow trickle of occasional nostalgia sets like we're currently getting. However, it's _also_ possible that down the road we might see LEGO try another "Big Bang" theme, based on pirates this time. Or Disney might decide to make another Pirates of the Caribbean movie and we might get another wave of that. But LEGO Pirates as we know them are most likely a thing of the past.
A note on islanders, while I will say that I feel they were handled relatively tastefully during their run, the current political climate would never even give them a chance.
Lego is not gonna bring back the Islanders. It’s a kids toy still and I don’t think they’re tryna perpetuate a stereotype like that especially if it’s not licensed. Not that I dislike the islanders but like I understand why you wouldn’t want to make that as a kids toy.
They should renew the LEGO pirate world to tie in with the increased interest in tal ships linked to the SAIL Amsterdam 2025 event that's finally being held again after Covid cancelled the last edition in 2020. ;)
It’s not Pirates but if rumors are to be believed we’re getting the Endurance Polarship for Black Friday with a gwp to go along with the set. Maybe there’s still hope for something Pirates related if Lego is willing to take a chance on a pretty niche set.
Endurance really has me intrigued!
Didn’t even hear about that. Thanks for sharing!
@@OurToyWorldYou're welcome!
Looking forward to your accurate model of her.
With every cannon included. ;)
If they do a LEGO Ideas set, they should do a remake of the Imperial Flagship set.
Why a remake of the one?
I thought that was already a modernized mega-ship as it was.
What would a remake need to do better?
@@pieterboelen2862, make it larger.
@@MatthewChenaultThat'll be epic!
It's already the largest ship in my fleet! 😅
They keep on losing to the pirates, it’s about time they upgrade to an even bigger ship
@@OurToyWorld*insert Santissima Trinidad here*
Sadly, lego shelved the awesome pirates and castle sets in favor of movie tie ins.
Now i really love the dc comics legos and inparticular the dc supervillains game, but aside from that, most of the tie ins are not that good and overpriced.
Hear me out... space pirates! Make it campy and fun, apply pirate aesthetics to the infinite void, have a cyborg monkey, and you're golden.
Surprised we never got that tbh
The Spanish, or "Armada" as most will call them, is a faction that really needs love and was officially killed off by LEGO California. This is also why no one really got to see more of them as LEGO California wanted to promote America more and thus the infestation of American type sports was a thing suddenly along with other pointless themes that shouldn't have been released. It would make a lot of sense for now woke company LEGO to make what fans want, which is a decent full set line of Armada. This indeed including a big base and a new ship, or rather 2 sizes of ships.
The islanders is a faction that likely won't return due to modern day woke bs making it a touchy subject that probably will get cancelled real quickly. Now I personally am educated and I do know the realistic idea behind it. So I personally would like to see a new set regarding that. Problem is that it will be kinda difficult to really do much with it as it stands now.
I however do wish to see a more Dutch East India type faction that could turn out to be a huge game changer for the theme as a whole. Think about merchant ships, merchant type city bases and things along those lines. It would be a faction that should have been added a long time ago and technically speaking, there is a single ship (although fairly small) that is part of a merchant fleet. Which is repeated to some extend in set 10320. So technically 2 ships? Problem is the second round it's a blue coat ship which makes no sense with the sail and flag it shows.
I personally believe the next big thing we might see are the 2 big pirate islands from 1989 combined into 1 island. They did it with 2 soldier bases, which technically makes no sense as it's 2 different factions (Blue being French and Red being British), but oh well. It does state there is a big opportunity that they will make both islands into 1. Another option would be one of those islands combined with one of the Islander sets, which would give a unique idea to it.
I’d love to see some more merchant type sets. I wish we got more imperial trading post type sets. I love the forts and bases, but normal location sets are desired as well, at least from people like me.
@@OurToyWorld Imperial trading post should have been a separate set, not mixed in with another set. Such a iconic set and with so much more potential. But yes, I would strongly agree with similar sets appearing. The main focus of the Pirates theme is more on ships and not a single one can actually dock. So a decent harbor set, or for all I care in several sets that would form 1 big harbor, would there for be a huge plus.
I however do think the well known baseplates need to get put back in these sets as it really makes it a lot better over all.
I know many will disagree, but hear me out on this one. The sets are meant for children mainly, that means they need to be able to play. If you have to worry about thinking up your table being blue or specific parts being green, this would take away from the playability of the set. But also for veterans in te scene will seriously have benefits from baseplates. Not just for the actual set as intended, but also for MOC's and many other reasons.
Can't comment on Pirates of Barracuda Bay, though I might try to pick one up on eBay soon.
I recently picked up the Creator pirate ship, and honestly I have very mixed feelings on it. The level of detail is comparable to the 2010 Imperial Flagship, but in a smaller and more accessible package - which is definitely a plus. I also like that it's the first LEGO tallship to actually feature a proper forecastle, whereas previous ships just had the main deck stretch from the cabin all the way to the bow, assuming they even have a full main deck. The downsides, however... it's small. This is a Caribbean Clipper sized ship, which I do like the idea of having more of those but this segways into the next problem - as a creator build it has to rely on generic parts rather than being able to use the more specialized hull segments, and this results in an inflated parts count for its size, a lot of its interior space used for structural framing and SNOT bricks and as a result a lack of interior detail apart from the cabin. It just does not feel like a good value if you're buying it for the Pirate Ship build. This is honestly one of those 3-in-1 sets where the alternate builds are what actually provide a serious portion of the set's value. I also absolutely hate the brick-built sails. I've seen decent brick-built sails before on various mocs, and this set's absolutely pale in comparison. Again, it's a creator set so they had to use generic parts, but this set MASSIVELY benefits from being retrofitted with cloth sails.
El Dorado Fortress... I have this set and it is honestly one of the best sets _in general_ that LEGO has released in the past several years. That being said, it does have me wanting a proper pirate ship to go with it, as without that, what's the fortress going to defend against? That being said, I wouldn't count it out yet. Regardless of whether it's sold well or not, LEGO seems to be intent on keeping it on shelves for its full run, unlike what they did for Pirates of Barracuda Bay.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the two pirates sets still on shelves. You provide a lot of detail on the creator set which i wasn’t aware of- I also have seen people buy two and expand it and I think it looks a lot better that way.
No chance they'll do islanders again with the Politically Correct police. Let's be honest, a set of imperial soldiers against islanders does not sound like a good newspaper headline
To be fair, we never saw the imperial soldiers take on the islanders. Still though, I assume LEGO would want to stay clear of the islanders
OurYapWorld, you didnt say anything interesting, unfortunately
Glad you stayed til the end 🤝
@@OurToyWorld it’s a tough world
Things i dont like with todays reboots: too much political correctness
Lego creator ship is dogshit. I hate brick built sails and animals so much it ruins the immersion instantly.
Fair, do you like the brick built hull?